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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 25 17:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| alaski | Anyone around today? | 17:00 |
| gilliard | Helloo | 17:00 |
| dheeraj-gupta-4 | o/ | 17:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 17:00 |
| alaski | excellent | 17:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 17:01 |
| alaski | short agenda today so hopefully we can move through it | 17:01 |
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| alaski | #topic separate database configs | 17:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "separate database configs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:01 | |
| alaski | Primarily I wanted to get some thoughts on having two config options | 17:02 |
| alaski | two connection strings I guess I should say | 17:02 |
| alaski | I would like to require that a connection string is explicitly for a particular db type | 17:03 |
| gilliard | What do you mean 'type'? | 17:04 |
| alaski | api vs cell | 17:04 |
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| alaski | I'm guessing that people would generally be in favor of multiple configs, but wanted to see if there was a reason not to do it | 17:04 |
| dansmith | alaski: what's the other option? | 17:05 |
| dansmith | oh, wait | 17:06 |
| melwitt | I must admit I don't have a clear picture of what that looks like (not super familiar with cells configs). in v1 I know about cell_type but didn't notice the db connection strings | 17:06 |
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| alaski | that the db type is determined by the service | 17:06 |
| dheeraj-gupta-4 | alaski: Separate configs with each service look "easier" | 17:06 |
| dansmith | so, the anything that the API does in a cell database would get the connection string from the api database, right? | 17:06 |
| alaski | dansmith: right | 17:07 |
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| alaski | dheeraj-gupta-4: I think it's easier to just keep using 'connection_url' or whatever it is right now, but also more confusing | 17:07 |
| alaski | melwitt: cells v1 doesn't make a distinction because the db is the same in the parent and child | 17:08 |
| gilliard | Where would the services in the cell get the conn string from? | 17:08 |
| alaski | gilliard: CONF.db.connection_url | 17:08 |
| alaski | it boils down to, should CONF.db.connection_url always point at a cell db and we make a CONF.db.api_connection_url (ignore names), or should CONF.db.connection_url work for either | 17:09 |
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| dansmith | the thing I like about using the same thing, | 17:10 |
| dansmith | is that it reinforces that we don't get cell connection info from anywhere other than the API database | 17:10 |
| dansmith | however, | 17:10 |
| dansmith | it is probably very confusing to people that we access one database (and schema) in one place, and a different schema in other places in the code, both through the same URL | 17:11 |
| dansmith | and you can only know by having supreme understanding of the whole thing | 17:11 |
| dansmith | so probably two are required just for human reasons, | 17:11 |
| alaski | yeah, that's why I prefer the first option | 17:11 |
| dansmith | and we should have an assertion that both can't be set | 17:11 |
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| gilliard | ^^ yes | 17:11 |
| alaski | yep | 17:12 |
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| alaski | the follow up is, should nova-manage work for cell dbs from the api level? | 17:13 |
| alaski | i.e. should it take an argument to pull cell db info from the db | 17:13 |
| dheeraj-gupta-4 | alaski: Can the connection_url option be kept as one but underlying session/engine be split into api_session/session and api_engine/engine | 17:14 |
| dansmith | alaski: I'm thinking maybe nova-manage has to have a --cellid=$uuid to work against the cell db, and then it looks things up in the API database, and operates on $cell | 17:14 |
| * bauzas waves very late | 17:15 | |
| mdorman | +1 on nova-manage working (somehow) to operate on individual cells. that seems pretty useful from an operational perspective. | 17:15 |
| bauzas | damn TB notices | 17:15 |
| melwitt | dansmith: that makes sense to me | 17:15 |
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| alaski | dheeraj-gupta-4: that could work, but then it's confusing because it's split based on which service is running | 17:15 |
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| alaski | dansmith: that's what I was thinking too, just wanted to ensure no one had an aversion to managing dbs that way | 17:16 |
| bauzas | I'm running late, but I'm in favor of 2 connection strings as config opts | 17:16 |
| alaski | cool | 17:17 |
| bauzas | that's something we discussed in the spec btw. IIRC :) | 17:17 |
| alaski | yep, but then it was easier to get started by piggybacking on the current config | 17:17 |
| bauzas | sure | 17:17 |
| alaski | just wanted a gut check before proceeding with it | 17:17 |
| bauzas | I just wanted to say that I'm still agreeing with myself :) | 17:17 |
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| alaski | :) | 17:18 |
| alaski | sounds like we have general agreement then, I'll start working on the split | 17:18 |
| bauzas | cool | 17:18 |
| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 17:18 |
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| bauzas | I had very few review bandwidth this week | 17:18 |
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| bauzas | FPF ? | 17:18 |
| bauzas | how can it impact the cells work ? | 17:19 |
| alaski | we'd have to request an exception for anything not merged | 17:19 |
| bauzas | that's something we're hitting on the scheduler side | 17:19 |
| bauzas | alaski: ok, I guess we'll maybe have to find the good ones | 17:19 |
| alaski | which is why I was about to post... | 17:19 |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150381/ | 17:19 |
| bauzas | because FPF is March 5th | 17:19 |
| bauzas | ie. one week left | 17:19 |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157156/7 | 17:20 |
| alaski | those are two review streams up right now | 17:20 |
| bauzas | yeah, we can probably put them in the etherpad, are they ? | 17:20 |
| alaski | bauzas: I'm not sure if the full chain is, but I put some of them at elast | 17:20 |
| alaski | *least | 17:20 |
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| bauzas | cool | 17:21 |
| bauzas | at least, it's FPF | 17:21 |
| bauzas | so we're ok | 17:21 |
| bauzas | with these I mean | 17:21 |
| bauzas | I'm more concerned about what's still missing | 17:21 |
| bauzas | FF is end of March IIRC | 17:21 |
| alaski | this is a good portion of it | 17:21 |
| bauzas | then that's cool :) | 17:21 |
| alaski | there's the config piece | 17:21 |
| alaski | and tieing the db migrations the the work from dheeraj-gupta-4 | 17:22 |
| alaski | like, just a sample call being tested or something | 17:22 |
| alaski | and I would like to do some work with the RPC side of things, but I'm not sure if there will be time | 17:22 |
| bauzas | erm, touching the RPC interfaces by end of K3 still pretty optimistic :) | 17:23 |
| dheeraj-gupta-4 | alaski: Are we also targetting patching nova-manage to add cells using cellsv2? | 17:23 |
| bauzas | *seems | 17:23 |
| alaski | bauzas: yeah, not touch them really, more of just a framework to make RPC calls to different endpoints | 17:24 |
| bauzas | dheeraj-gupta-4: sounds like it's part of the patch series that alaski mentioned ? | 17:24 |
| alaski | dheeraj-gupta-4: yeah, that's up for review already | 17:24 |
| bauzas | alaski: still big IMHO :D | 17:24 |
| dheeraj-gupta-4 | bauzas: aah...didn't realize that..sorry | 17:24 |
| bauzas | dheeraj-gupta-4: try the new Gerrit UI | 17:24 |
| alaski | bauzas: definitely, hence me not being sure about getting it done | 17:24 |
| alaski | I got tied up with stuff a bit ago which delayed my working on cells mostly fulltime | 17:25 |
| bauzas | anyway, Liberty should open very soon after FF, so that's really about what we want for Kilo :) | 17:25 |
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| alaski | yep | 17:26 |
| alaski | as soon as FPF hits I'm going to be working on specs/etherpads/etc.. so we can go into Liberty with a good plan | 17:26 |
| dansmith | alaski: one of these days we're going to stop letting you use that excuse :) | 17:26 |
| alaski | dansmith: :) ... :( | 17:27 |
| dansmith | heh | 17:27 |
| melwitt | on testing, I have a patch up that addresses the FlavorNotFound errors in the tempest cells job, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158933/ in local testing it got the failure count down to 45. a question I have is, is there any way to see what the effects of removing items from our whitelist are on the job? since that updates project-config, is there a way to see how it looks on the CI cells job | 17:27 |
| alaski | melwitt: not as far as I know | 17:28 |
| bauzas | melwitt: there is no magic | 17:28 |
| melwitt | okay, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss some magic | 17:28 |
| bauzas | melwitt: we need to merge the change before seeing the impact on Nova | 17:28 |
| melwitt | bauzas: got it | 17:28 |
| bauzas | melwitt: or we can copy the logic to the experimental pipeline | 17:28 |
| bauzas | melwitt: and do the stuff in there for testing the gate | 17:29 |
| bauzas | melwitt: that's something I was working on, not really huge, but after discussed with some folks, I just moved the test to the check ppl | 17:29 |
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| bauzas | btw. that comes up with an action from me | 17:30 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/157185 | 17:30 |
| melwitt | bauzas: forgive my lack of knowledge, but wouldn't moving it to experimental make it not run all the time as non-voting check? | 17:30 |
| bauzas | so there is a regression, because someone dumb enough introduced it | 17:30 |
| alaski | melwitt: if you're confident that the tests will pass based on local testing just propose removing some exclusions | 17:30 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: yeah, it needs to be checked by hand, ie. check experimental | 17:31 |
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| alaski | melwitt: once the job is voting we'll need to be more careful, but for now I think we can work off of local testing | 17:31 |
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| bauzas | (just to be clear, I'm the guy who introduced the regression...) | 17:31 |
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| bauzas | alaski: agreed | 17:31 |
| melwitt | okay. this is just the kind of thing I'd feel a lot better if I could verify it first, it'd be a big "oops :(" if somehow it doesn't do the same as it's doing locally for me | 17:32 |
| alaski | bauzas: is that patch just waiting on testing now? | 17:32 |
| alaski | melwitt: agreed. but it won't break anything currently, so without a better way... | 17:33 |
| melwitt | and it's not that I want to remove whitelist items so badly, but just assumed that's the way forward as I whittle away at the failures | 17:33 |
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| bauzas | alaski: the patch needs some cleanup, and also there are some changes I want to merge first for the cells API | 17:34 |
| melwitt | alaski: cool, I understand | 17:34 |
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| alaski | melwitt: definitely, it helps with future regressions too once we can get to voting | 17:34 |
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| bauzas | alaski: ie. all the things coming in the bp/detach-service patch series | 17:34 |
| melwitt | okay, thanks for the guidance alaski, bauzas | 17:34 |
| alaski | bauzas: gotcha | 17:34 |
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| bauzas | but as it's FPF soon, my priorities go to another BP which is still WIP, tbh :) | 17:35 |
| bauzas | ie. I'm rushing on Gerrit | 17:35 |
| alaski | bauzas: want me to take over on this one? | 17:35 |
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| bauzas | alaski: eh, you can co-author it, sure, but I think it still needs first the improvements I mentioned :) | 17:36 |
| bauzas | alaski: by saying I'm holding it off, I'm speaking about days, not weeks ;) | 17:37 |
| alaski | bauzas: sure, I can tack it onto your other series and work on some tests | 17:37 |
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| bauzas | alaski: sure that would be nice | 17:37 |
| bauzas | alaski: again, we all have priorities so that's just matter of finding time :) | 17:37 |
| dheeraj-gupta-4 | bauzas, alaski: Sorry about pulling it back. But from my earlier comment about patching nova-manage, what I meant was are we targetting something like "nova-manage cellsv2 cell create name --foo" for kilo. I don't see a patch for that as yet. | 17:38 |
| alaski | bauzas: yep. it's not my first priority either, but I think I can write some tests for it | 17:38 |
| alaski | dheeraj-gupta-4: oh. no not yet | 17:38 |
| dheeraj-gupta-4 | alaski: ok | 17:38 |
| bauzas | dheeraj-gupta-4: my bad | 17:39 |
| alaski | I started getting into that in a migration spec that didn't make it into K | 17:39 |
| alaski | anything else to discuss here? | 17:40 |
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| gilliard | The reviews on the etherpad are: | 17:40 |
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| gilliard | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157156/ | 17:40 |
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| gilliard | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157423/ | 17:40 |
| gilliard | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157426/ | 17:40 |
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| gilliard | I'll spend some time on those & following dependency chains but if there's anything else please feel free to add me directly. | 17:41 |
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| alaski | there's also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150381/ | 17:41 |
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| alaski | oh, woops | 17:42 |
| gilliard | heh | 17:42 |
| alaski | and thanks for reviewing | 17:42 |
| alaski | looks like we can get out early today | 17:43 |
| alaski | thanks everyone! | 17:43 |
| gilliard | splendid | 17:43 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 25 17:43:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-02-25-17.00.html | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-02-25-17.00.txt | 17:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-02-25-17.00.log.html | 17:43 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: SridharRamaswamy: hi | 18:31 |
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| SridarK | Hi All | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i just got off the phone with SridarK, so i think he is in the process of joining | 18:31 |
| yushiro | SridarK, Good evening, | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah there he is | 18:31 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, SridarK, SridharRamaswamy, Hi | 18:31 |
| vishwanathj | Hi all | 18:31 |
| SridarK | Hi all | 18:31 |
| pc_m | hi | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets get started | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 25 18:31:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:32 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info metting agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info kilo-3 feature proposal freeze is March 5th, and milestone date is March 19th | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other info anyone want to share? | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:33 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1418196 | 18:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1418196 in neutron "fwaas: driver base class is stale" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to yalei wang (yalei-wang) | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is badveli here? | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | since #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153930/ affects their patch | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorry, not patch, affects the varmour driver, is what i meant | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else got a chance to review the patch? | 18:35 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i did look at this - more on the method args | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: yeah | 18:36 |
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| vishwanathj | will try to look at it later today or early tomorrow | 18:36 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i was not so sure if this was mandatory | 18:36 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: but as such the changes are fine - should not cause impact - not every one will have agent_mode as something significant | 18:37 |
| SridarK | it is more to do with the ref implementations | 18:37 |
| SridarK | logically i viewed this as the base class methods as stating some basic requirements | 18:38 |
| SridarK | but this is more a python thing with this patch | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: okay | 18:39 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i think this is fine | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am not able to find the commit id that this patch references | 18:39 |
| SridarK | Also it did not get linked to the bug ? | 18:40 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | “The change set of f69ed3b3, Change-Id: Iba78e534ccf347ea6270aabc939a489dd40a7b9e” | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i could not find this | 18:41 |
| vishwanathj | I see the bug id being referred in the commit message | 18:41 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes but usually we also see a review url | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my point is that the bug is referring to a commit ID (and hash) that supposedly made a change to the fwaas driver base | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i cant locate that bug id | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorry commit id | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the linking from the review to the LP bug is a separate thing | 18:43 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sometimes it happens that way that the link does not get established | 18:43 |
| badveli | Hello All, sorry a bit late | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont undertand what consistency is the author referring to | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am guessing this is the root wrap changes | 18:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay anyway, i will try to track this offline | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: can you comment on the review: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153930/ | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as this affects your driver | 18:46 |
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| badveli | Yes sumit, will review it | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | or this might be the DVR agent mode | 18:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am not sure why the driver base class has to be changed | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyway | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: you are looking at #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1419498 right? | 18:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1419498 in openstack-manuals "Networking services in OpenStack Security Guide - FWaaS Section Updates" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to vishwanath jayaraman (vishwanathj) | 18:48 |
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| vishwanathj | yes, I uploaded a patch set and have got one +1 and one +2 | 18:48 |
| vishwanathj | the review is at link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158943/ | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: oh wow, that was fast ;-) | 18:49 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, thanks to your tips and guidance yesterday, that made it go faster | 18:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: happy to help, and thanks for acting on this quickly | 18:50 |
| vishwanathj | it was a low hanging bug with less changes | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: sure | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont see an update on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147396/ | 18:51 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, sorry. this patch needs following patch. | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: ah ok | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: thanks for stopping by in the meeting | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: one use case was that we actually wanted to share the firewall policies | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: across tenants | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: do you think this can be better handled by changes to policy.json? | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: by this i meant the patch you have posted | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: we have the shared attribute in the firewall policy | 18:54 |
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| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, yes. firewall-policy has the attribute 'shared' | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which is set to True by default | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which means that the firewall_policy created will be shared by default across tenants | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hence you are seeing the behavior | 18:55 |
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| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, sorry to late response. I'm not good at writing english | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: no worries at all | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: we can take it offline if you prefer that (over ML and #openstack-fwaas) | 18:57 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, Yes, I'd like to. thank you. | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: sure | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: and thanks for your work | 18:57 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: badveli: anything else on the bugs to discuss today? | 18:58 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, Thank you too :-) | 18:58 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: nothing from me | 18:58 |
| badveli | nothing much from my side | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i know vishwanathj has to leave early | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets try to get the firewall insertion in before that | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Firewall Insertion | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/152697 | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: over to you | 18:59 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152697/ | 18:59 |
| SridarK | next rev of patch posted on Sun | 18:59 |
| SridarK | folks pls take a look (thanks pc_m ) | 18:59 |
| SridarK | basic structure in place | 19:00 |
| SridarK | working on validation code to test if routers specified can be associated with fw | 19:00 |
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| SridarK | ie, same tenant and router is not already allocated to another fw | 19:00 |
| SridarK | testing that | 19:00 |
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| SridarK | other thing that remains is UT | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: okay great, thanks | 19:01 |
| SridarK | i have fixed most of the existing UT, working thru agent | 19:01 |
| SridarK | the other thing is to gauge vendor code impacts | 19:01 |
| SridarK | freescale is fine | 19:01 |
| SridarK | will need discussion with badveli & vishwanathj for their vendor code | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: what about your plugin/driver? | 19:02 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, SridarK and I will have an offline conversation later today | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: okay sure | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: you are fine with the changes so far? | 19:03 |
| badveli | sridar and myself will need a talk | 19:03 |
| badveli | we planned to discuss today | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: have you reviewed the patch? | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so far | 19:04 |
| badveli | just went through the code changes, | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay, might be good to have a good understanding of the proposed changes, so that you can have a more meaningful interaction | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | all please note that we are getting very close to cut-off on the features | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we need to wrap up on the pending items at the earliest | 19:05 |
| badveli | yes, Sumit, | 19:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | so i would very much request cooperation and deligent/speedy feedback from the entire team on this | 19:06 |
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| SridarK | Folks thanks in advance | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there was a suggestion that i made to SridarK in the morning | 19:06 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, SridarK, sure, we will review and provide feedback and impact if any | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | regarding the default behavior to keep it consistent with the prevailing semantics | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the suggestion was to check if no routers are specified during create | 19:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and if they arent, then apply the firewall on all routers | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which is what is done today | 19:08 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if you need more granular application, you can provide the list of routers | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if you provide an empty list, then the firewall is not applied to any routers | 19:09 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: that will the case when the FW will remain in PENDING_CREATE | 19:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: correct | 19:10 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: and in the case where the attribute is not specified and there are no routers in the tenant | 19:10 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes agreed | 19:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else has thoughts on this? | 19:11 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: also one thing that i also just realized is that the help string associated with the --router-ids can also convey this | 19:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: perfect! | 19:11 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: so users are more aware | 19:11 |
| vishwanathj | seems reasonable to me | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my main motivation in suggesting this is that it makes this entire patch a non-disruptive change | 19:12 |
| SridarK | So i will query if there is no attribute, i will query for routers on the tenant and apply that | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so that we dont have transient gate breaking issues | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | also existing clients dont have to be changed immediately, and will continue to work | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: yeah | 19:13 |
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| SridarK | Sounds good - i will add that | 19:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: AFAIK, that should work, but i dont know if things have changed since i last used the “ATTRIBUTE_NOT_SPECIFIED" | 19:13 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: i will test this out first too | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: badveli pc_m: any thoughts on this default behavior semantics? | 19:14 |
| vishwanathj | like I said earlier, the defaulth behavior seems reasonable to me | 19:14 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, I got to leave, I will review the meeting minutes later and catch up, bye all | 19:15 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: sorry, don't know enough about it... :( | 19:15 |
| SridarK | vishwanathj: bye | 19:15 |
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| badveli | currently PENDING_CREATE | 19:16 |
| badveli | state is changed when the firewall becomes active | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: ACTIVE is also a state | 19:17 |
| badveli | we are saying that if there is empty list the fw will remain in PENDING STATE | 19:17 |
| badveli | and will never change, correct? | 19:17 |
| SridarK | badveli: an UPDATE will change it | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: empyt list implies that that fw should not be applied on any router | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: yes | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: however, if you dont specifiy the router_id list (which is different from specifying an empty list), it will be applied to all routers, as is the case today | 19:18 |
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| badveli | fine with me | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: ok | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: no worries :-) | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | btw, i posted the CLI patch for this insertion change: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158118/ | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks for the update | 19:20 |
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| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: no worries, thanks for the input on this | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic FWaaS L3 agent refactoring/restructuring | 19:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks for the update on this earlier | 19:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: pc_m: so i believe no immediate changes required at this point? | 19:21 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: correct | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay, thanks for the discussion with SridarK on this | 19:22 |
| pc_m | seemed like not many changes may be needed anyway, so can defer | 19:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay great | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service Objects | 19:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Service Objects (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 19:23 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: over to you | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any updates you want to provide? | 19:23 |
| badveli | still working on the neutron patch | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay | 19:23 |
| badveli | able to retrieve my code changes | 19:24 |
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| badveli | some how my previous review is not there any more | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: its probably abandoned | 19:25 |
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| badveli | yes might be | 19:25 |
| badveli | need to get from some where locally | 19:25 |
| badveli | which was very old one and need to modify | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks for the update | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 19:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 19:27 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else we need to discuss? | 19:27 |
| banix | have a stupid question that will probably waste couple of minutes of your time but if that’s ok, I will ask :) | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we have exactly a couple of mins | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: so shoot :-) | 19:28 |
| banix | any plans to include a group of ip addresses in service object or in firewall rules at some point? | 19:28 |
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| banix | i see references to grouping of addresses as a possible extension in the original design doc | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we have address objects on the road map | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: yes | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: we prioritized service objects over that | 19:28 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam: i see. great. thanks for the info. | 19:29 |
| pc_m | I mentioned to SridarK this morning, but I was looking at the API reference doc, and VPN doc is gone. Don't know when that happened. I'm not sure if FWaaS have API reference documentation too, but there is nothing there on the web page. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/ | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | banix: but service objects has been in review for over a year now! | 19:29 |
| pc_m | Just a heads up... | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: ah good to know | 19:29 |
| pc_m | Wrong link... http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html | 19:29 |
| banix | SumitNaiksatam yeah noticed that | 19:29 |
| annegent_ | pc_m: is there a WADL for VPNaaS in the openstack/api-site repo? | 19:30 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: It has LBaaS | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annegent_: thanks for chiming in | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annegent_: we will check | 19:30 |
| pc_m | annegent_: Not sure. What is a WADL? | 19:30 |
| annegent_ | The bug has been here since last fall: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1358179 | 19:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1358179 in openstack-api-site "Neutron Virtual Private Network as a Service (VPNaaS) API requires "v2.0" in URI" [Undecided,Triaged] | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annegent_: which exact location should we be looking at? | 19:30 |
| pc_m | annegent_: In 2013 I added documentation as part of a commit. | 19:30 |
| annegent_ | Web Application Description Language | 19:31 |
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| annegent_ | I'll triage that bug further | 19:31 |
| annegent_ | pc_m: it needs to go into https://github.com/openstack/api-site | 19:31 |
| pc_m | annegent_: I committed, and it was on the web site, back in 2013 | 19:31 |
| annegent_ | pc_m: the API reference? If so I can find it in history. | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | to the best of my knowledge we had fwaas here as well, since i had added that patch (sometime in 2013 as well) | 19:32 |
| pc_m | Used to be on the API reference pages. | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annegent_: okay thanks | 19:32 |
| annegent_ | SumitNaiksatam: will also look in history there | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annegent_: thanks, will try to follow up as well | 19:32 |
| annegent_ | thanks | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, thanks everyone, we are a couple of mins over time | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 19:33 |
| SridarK | bye all | 19:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 25 19:33:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-02-25-18.31.html | 19:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-02-25-18.31.txt | 19:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-02-25-18.31.log.html | 19:33 |
| badveli | bye | 19:33 |
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| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, SridarK, thank you today | 19:33 |
| SridarK | yushiro: thanks for joining in | 19:33 |
| yushiro | SridarK, I finally attend the IRC meeting. | 19:34 |
| SridarK | yushiro: great :-) and pls feel free to email if u have any questions | 19:34 |
| yushiro | SridarK, Of course. I wanted to send email today, but I can't. Therefore, I'll send you today :-) | 19:35 |
| SridarK | ok | 19:35 |
| annegent_ | SumitNaiksatam: if you can take http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-attic/netconn-api/commit/?id=e34325c574ee6bd4ec928c02c17ed5117f7946ea and turn it into a WADL and make a patch for api-site it'll be on the API Reference. I'll log a doc bug. | 19:36 |
| annegent_ | SumitNaiksatam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1425658 feel free to discuss in #openstack-doc if you have questions | 19:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1425658 in openstack-manuals "FWaaS needs WADL doc to be available in the API reference" [High,Confirmed] | 19:37 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, SridarK sorry to late notification. would you review my patch? 'Enable to apply policies to resources with special plural' https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145998/ | 19:37 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: will do | 19:38 |
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| yushiro | SridarK, Thank you so much. | 19:41 |
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| rdopiera | hi | 19:59 |
| matt-borland | hello! | 19:59 |
| esp | o/ | 20:00 |
| mrunge | morning guys | 20:00 |
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| TravT | good evening mrunge: | 20:00 |
| mrunge | :D TravT | 20:00 |
| mrunge | *\o/* | 20:00 |
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| TravT | mrunge: the good news is that you are half a day closer to friday than the rest of us. | 20:01 |
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| bpokorny | Hi | 20:01 |
| mattfarina | hi folks | 20:01 |
| mrunge | TravT, oh, that sounds like bad news is coming now... ;-) | 20:01 |
| jgravel | Hi | 20:01 |
| jacalcat | Hi | 20:02 |
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| rhagarty | hello | 20:02 |
| gary-smith_ | hi | 20:02 |
| TravT | lol | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | Evening all | 20:02 |
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| rbertram | hi | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 20:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 25 20:03:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:03 |
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| david-lyle | got caught looking at something else | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | hello everyone | 20:03 |
| doug-fish | :-) hi | 20:03 |
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| david-lyle | ok, organized again | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | So, starting off with some important dates | 20:05 |
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| david-lyle | FPF (Feature Proposal Freeze) for openstack is March 9 | 20:05 |
| tqtran | hola! | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | that means... | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | Feature code needs to be submitted for initial review by that date | 20:06 |
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| david-lyle | There can be iterations on patch sets beyond that, but completely new code for features beyond that date will require a FFE | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | err FPFE | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | an exceptions | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | singular | 20:07 |
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| doug-fish | so ... is there any standard for how good the initial review patch needs to be? | 20:07 |
| doug-fish | :-D | 20:07 |
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| david-lyle | Better than you're wnating | 20:07 |
| doug-fish | lol | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | reasonably complete before reviews | 20:07 |
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| david-lyle | but intended to be mergable | 20:08 |
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| doug-fish | yeah, that's what I'd expect | 20:08 |
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| david-lyle | so if two confused cores +A'd it we wouldn't hate ourselves in the morning | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | after march 9, the next important date is March 19 | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | That is the end of Kilo-3 | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | all code should be merged by that point if it's going to make Kilo | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | if it does not, and it's very close and worth the risk, it may be eligible for a FFE (Feature Freeze Exception) | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | where we land the code for RC-1 | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | (release candidate - 1) | 20:10 |
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| david-lyle | the exception process for that is via openstack-dev | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | any questions on that? | 20:11 |
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| mrunge | when is string freeze? | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: good question | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | #action david-lyle to contact amotoki and daisy re: string freeze | 20:12 |
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| mrunge | it used to be 2 weeks after milestone 3 (or so) | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: I think that sounds right but I'd like daisy's input | 20:13 |
| mrunge | this time, roughly rc1 | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | it's usually a bit of a negotiation | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule any help? | 20:13 |
| mrunge | robcresswell, too easy | 20:14 |
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| mrunge | March 19th | 20:14 |
| mrunge | :D | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: we usually carry a little over | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | due to the nature of the project being all text | 20:14 |
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| david-lyle | I'll report back at next meeting | 20:14 |
| mrunge | thank you david-lyle | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | Let's look at the current status https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-3 | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | I think not great is my summary | 20:15 |
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| david-lyle | some of that is that things that missed 1 and 2 have continued to slide to here | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | I dropped a few from the release target all together | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | but lots of high priority items are still not completed | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | *most high priority | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | I think this is to be expected with a major direction shift and I don't feel terrible about it | 20:17 |
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| david-lyle | Angular development has consumed a lot of resources and other items have just stalled | 20:18 |
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| david-lyle | Are there items people know they are not planning on for Kilo? | 20:19 |
| TravT | i'll look at the glance v2 one again, but it'll probably slide out | 20:19 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: I think I will have to drop the entrypoints blueprint | 20:19 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: I won't have time to finish it on time | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: sure, thanks | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | dropped | 20:20 |
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| david-lyle | I additionally have some items from Sahara that they are trying to land to clean up what was there in Juno, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon | 20:21 |
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| david-lyle | the Guided items are covered by a blueprint, the others are bug fixes | 20:21 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: how about items we want to add for Kilo? :) | 20:21 |
| * david-lyle glares at lhcheng | 20:21 | |
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| david-lyle | :) | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | like what | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | ? | 20:21 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: talked to the metacloud folks, and they might have some bandwidth to add the horizon theming | 20:22 |
| mrunge | django-1.8 support? | 20:22 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: they got permission from Dianna to contribute it | 20:22 |
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| david-lyle | lhcheng: I'll deal with that if it comes | 20:22 |
| mrunge | django-1.6 won't receive any security updates, once django-1.8 is out | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | I'm open to it as operators want it | 20:22 |
| mrunge | and we currently don't even support django-1.7 | 20:23 |
| lhcheng | mrunge: allowing the user to change the theme used by horizon | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: we didn't even look at that did we | 20:23 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, I did a bit | 20:23 |
| lhcheng | mrunge: there was a quick demo in the paris summit | 20:23 |
| mrunge | filed at least one bug | 20:23 |
| mrunge | lhcheng, about what? | 20:23 |
| mrunge | theme support? | 20:23 |
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| lhcheng | mrunge: yes | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: we may be able to tackle those bugs after k-3 | 20:24 |
| mattfarina | lhcheng the user to change the theme or to have white labled themes? | 20:24 |
| lhcheng | mrunge: sorry the django1.8 is different topic. nevermind me | 20:24 |
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| mrunge | no, no, lhcheng . that's what operators actually want | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | heck, we still have django 1.4 support for some reason | 20:24 |
| mrunge | django-1.4 is lts until this april | 20:25 |
| lhcheng | mattfarina: user will have an option to pick from multiple theme and change it on the browser (probably from user preference) | 20:25 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, debian uses django-1.7. tests are failing currently. but it seems to work | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | ok, that shouldn't be terrible to patch up | 20:26 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, on issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1425001 | 20:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1425001 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "remove try except from tests" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Yash Bathia (ybathia) | 20:26 |
| mrunge | I counted 2 bugs for django-1.7 supprot. | 20:26 |
| mrunge | nothing really to worry. | 20:27 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: we should be able to tackle 2 | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | DOA is already 1.7 compatible | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | as of Juno | 20:27 |
| mrunge | yepp | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: can you add a cp | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | bp | 20:28 |
| mrunge | and there seems to be an unrelated issue in infra | 20:28 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, yes. will do | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | trivial content | 20:28 |
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| david-lyle | not long form | 20:28 |
| mrunge | good | 20:28 |
| mrunge | :D | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | thanks! | 20:28 |
| mrunge | yw! | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | The other item missing completely is Ironic support | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | Not sure that's going to be addressed | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | as there is no owner | 20:29 |
| mrunge | there is an api patch | 20:29 |
| mrunge | (for ironic) | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | ok, that's a start | 20:29 |
| mrunge | it's not merged yet | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | there's a bp, but I think it stalled | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | that might be part of that | 20:29 |
| * david-lyle sees more housekeeping in my future | 20:30 | |
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| lhcheng | david-lyle: I think there was a pending discussion there for ironic. if the panel should go into tuskar-io | 20:30 |
| mrunge | we should discuss at some point, if we want to support ironic in horizon | 20:30 |
| lhcheng | *tuskar-ui | 20:30 |
| mrunge | yepp, lhcheng | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | lhcheng: I don't think so | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | re: answer | 20:30 |
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| david-lyle | tuskar-ui has non-integrated dependencies | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | we could put it there, but no one would be able to use it | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | ironic has user space usefulness | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | we should move on | 20:31 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, maybe worth a session in Vancouver? | 20:32 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: tuskar-ui already have some ironic panels, perhaps they can move it from there to horizon | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | lhcheng: but the leverage tuskarclient as well | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | IIRC | 20:32 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: it uses ironicclient | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | The simplest thing I could see is allowing a use to launch an instance on baremetal | 20:33 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: we can discuss it later | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | that won't happen in tuskar-ui | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | lhcheng: sure | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | One last thing before the agneda | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | *you know what I meant | 20:34 |
| rdopiera | lhcheng: our views are all very specific to the task of running openstack on openstack | 20:34 |
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| david-lyle | jpich has moved on from Horizon for the time being. I just wanted to officially recognize what a great part of our community she has been for the last ~3 years. Thanks jpich and happy adventures! | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | the agenda for today can be found at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 20:36 |
| mrunge | +1 david-lyle | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | #topic Use of discoverd in Tuskar-UI [rdopiera] | 20:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Use of discoverd in Tuskar-UI [rdopiera] (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:37 | |
| rdopiera | ok, so the gist of it is | 20:37 |
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| rdopiera | we are relying on ironic-discoverd in tuskar-ui to do discovery of hardware nodes | 20:38 |
| rdopiera | the thing is, it's not officially part of OpenStack | 20:38 |
| rdopiera | so I wanted to check if you see any problems with including it in the dependencies | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | in particular, we need the python client for it | 20:39 |
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| david-lyle | and that part is not part of the stackforge repo? | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | I think it is, it's in the "ironic-discoverd" python module | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: looking now, I see the client | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | I proposed a patch to add it do global-requirements.txt here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158210/ | 20:41 |
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| rdopiera | if it can't be included, we will make it optional | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: my thoughts are that tuskar-ui is likely not graduating soon (especially as that concept is going away), and tripleO in general is in the same boat | 20:41 |
| rdopiera | but that will make the code a little more complex, with conditional imports | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | I think for now using it makes sense to me | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | either if it's adopted as part of the global requirements or if it's a conditional | 20:42 |
| rdopiera | ok, thank you | 20:42 |
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| david-lyle | anyone have a concern with that? | 20:43 |
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| david-lyle | ok, raise you hand if you know what tuskar-ui is | 20:44 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:44 |
| lhcheng | I'm fine with it | 20:44 |
| david-lyle | #topic Review Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/k2k-federation (doug-fish) | 20:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/k2k-federation (doug-fish) (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:44 | |
| doug-fish | ok great | 20:44 |
| doug-fish | I've submitted the above blueprint for keystone to keystone federation | 20:44 |
| doug-fish | So the basic idea is that K2K federation allows a user to log in through one keystone, and then use the unscoped token to get a saml assertion which can be presented as credentials to other, federated keystones, so the user doesn't have to log in separately. | 20:45 |
| doug-fish | My plan to allow Horizon to interact with a k2k federated environment is to hide it from the end user | 20:45 |
| doug-fish | d_o_a will need to be updated to manage the collection of tokens needed for each keystone, present a combined list of regions, and swap out the tokens (if needed) when the users switches regions. | 20:46 |
| doug-fish | how hard could it be? | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: I think the idea is fine | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | I need to push a new session store default to devstack | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | we have a few things blocking on that now | 20:46 |
| david-lyle | I'll clean up that effort | 20:47 |
| doug-fish | my main concern with k2k federation that I see there is other major work happening in d_o_a for domain tokens | 20:47 |
| doug-fish | I think both are large scale changes. | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: there will be a lot of contention around all the keystone changes | 20:47 |
| david-lyle | between SSO, K2K, domain scoped tokens, HMT | 20:48 |
| doug-fish | HMT? | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | they've really overrun our ability to keep up | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | Hierarchical Multi-tenancy | 20:48 |
| doug-fish | ah | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | some things will miss Kilo | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | just a fact | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | but the domain tokens are still in flux, and may have been a wasted effort | 20:49 |
| woodm1979 | wasted effort? /sad panda | 20:49 |
| doug-fish | FWIW I'm not sure K2K support is quite complete in Keystone | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | woodm1979: it's a moving target even though we waited 4 releases | 20:49 |
| lhcheng | doug-fish: isn't the implementation of this will be similar to using an external Idp for federation. for k2k, keystone can acts as an Idp, wondering what is the difference on interaction between k2k and with external Idp? | 20:49 |
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| doug-fish | lhcheng: that was my first thought too | 20:50 |
| tqtran | if you dont mind me hijacking your time for a bit, i'd like to also mention that the websso work is nearing completion, just need more eyes on it. the keystone side has already merged | 20:50 |
| doug-fish | and there is similarly | 20:50 |
| woodm1979 | :-) I understand. I'm sto;; a sad [amda | 20:50 |
| woodm1979 | wow. sad panda | 20:50 |
| doug-fish | but the consumption of the similar APIs happens at a different time | 20:50 |
| doug-fish | websso = how to get auth to the first keystone | 20:50 |
| doug-fish | k2k federation = access other keystones later | 20:50 |
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| doug-fish | so of domain tokens might be out does that mean that k2k could be in? | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: I'd say the best thing to do is get the patch ready and if it doesn't make k-3 then l-whatever-they-are-going-to-be | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: if the patch is ready | 20:52 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: sounds good! | 20:52 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: for HMT, we probably don't need to land it in Kilo. The nested quota driver in Nova is not going in Kilo, I don't find HMT that useful without that. | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | there's certainly a possibility | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | no HMT was the first feature to get the boot | 20:53 |
| lhcheng | david-lyle: ah ok, makes sense | 20:53 |
| david-lyle | I personally think it's too early even for the keystone part | 20:53 |
| david-lyle | I'd like to see it stabilize so we're not chasing our tails | 20:53 |
| david-lyle | see: domain scoped tokens | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | ok | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | #topic Review Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/sahara-event-log (NikitaKonovalov) | 20:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/sahara-event-log (NikitaKonovalov) (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:54 | |
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| david-lyle | that seems uncontroversial and a WIP patch is up, I'm ok if with it if it can get review cycles | 20:55 |
| david-lyle | which is the big question for all of these | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | ok | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 20:57 |
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| david-lyle | 3 minute free for all | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | go | 20:57 |
| TravT | two weeks ago I brought this up and want to circle back. | 20:57 |
| TravT | Reference: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-02-11-20.01.log.html | 20:57 |
| TravT | Go to time: 20:52:02 | 20:57 |
| TravT | several people indicated interest and wanted to mention it again | 20:57 |
| TravT | r1chardj0n3s has indicated that he can't make it due to pycon activities | 20:57 |
| TravT | so a few other options would be to do it a few days before the summit at HP's office in Seattle (few hours South of Vancouver) | 20:57 |
| TravT | Also, could try a virtual summit, but thus far we have not found a great video conferencing tool that supports enough people around the world on all OS platforms | 20:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah, aprily/may are pretty hectic with pycon and summit | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | ooh, that reminds me I requested 3 fishbowl and 8 work sessions and a full day on Friday | 20:58 |
| TravT | yeah, i thought that having all the extra sessions may make the week before the summit less worthwhile | 20:59 |
| TravT | anyway, if you are interested, add your name to that etherpad | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | for the summit, so less fishbowl time and more work session time | 20:59 |
| TravT | and we can try to coordinate | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | may obviate some of the need | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | sure | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | There have been several sprint/review sessions around the angular work and many patches have landed | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | we're still a ways from launch instance, but I think we can see it from here, where we couldn't before | 21:00 |
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| TravT | been great work | 21:01 |
| tqtran | TravT: which etherpad? | 21:01 |
| TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-liberty-presummit-meetup | 21:01 |
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| david-lyle | ok time's up. Thanks everyone have a great week! | 21:01 |
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| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 25 21:02:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-02-25-20.03.html | 21:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-02-25-20.03.txt | 21:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-02-25-20.03.log.html | 21:02 |
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