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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 04:59 |
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| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 04:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 04:59:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:59 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 04:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 04:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 04:59 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 04:59 |
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| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 05:00 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 05:00 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, roll-call and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:00 | |
| NobodyCam | Roll-call: Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 05:00 |
| naohirot | o/ | 05:00 |
| jroll | hiya. | 05:00 |
| Haomeng | o/ | 05:00 |
| mrda | o/ | 05:00 |
| ramineni | o/ | 05:00 |
| BadCub | hola | 05:00 |
| NobodyCam | hey hey "morning" all :) | 05:00 |
| jroll | heh | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | it's late here and way past my bed time so I may be slow | 05:01 |
| NobodyCam | sorry in adv. | 05:01 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic announcements: | 05:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:01 | |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: is in meeting and will most likly not make it to the meeting | 05:02 |
| BadCub | Specs for L will be opening after RC1 | 05:02 |
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| NobodyCam | Feature,Dep, ans string freeze are all in effect | 05:03 |
| NobodyCam | our goal to cur rc one is April 9 | 05:03 |
| NobodyCam | s/cur/cut/ | 05:03 |
| jroll | apparently dmitry wanted to announce: DevStack plugin for ironic-discoverd for those interested: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DiscoverdDevStack | 05:04 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DiscoverdDevStack | 05:04 |
| NobodyCam | Ty jroll was just typingthat | 05:05 |
| jroll | hehehe | 05:05 |
| jroll | np | 05:05 |
| BadCub | review day pad has been updated with bugs and docs for rc1 | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 05:05 |
| BadCub | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicReviewDay | 05:05 |
| NobodyCam | ty BadCub | 05:06 |
| rameshg87 | may be this needs discussion, but it's difficult (and dangerous) to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1422723 for rc1 | 05:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1422723 in Ironic "Ironic sets instance as active even if bootloader installation fails when boot_option is 'local'" [Critical,Confirmed] | 05:06 |
| Haomeng | jroll: I have try with discoverddevstack, looks like dhcp not working, will check with dmitry, maybe it is my env issue | 05:06 |
| NobodyCam | rameshg87:lets cover that in the rc1 section | 05:07 |
| rameshg87 | NobodyCam: okay | 05:07 |
| NobodyCam | #topic SubTeam: status report | 05:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SubTeam: status report (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:07 | |
| NobodyCam | looks like the white board didn't get updated | 05:07 |
| NobodyCam | anything that needs covering for subteams? | 05:08 |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: I updated irmc section :) | 05:08 |
| jroll | I've nothing | 05:08 |
| NobodyCam | naohirot: awesome Ty and good news too :) | 05:09 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: :) | 05:09 |
| naohirot | NobodyCam: :) | 05:09 |
| NobodyCam | ok then we can jump into one of the hot topics | 05:09 |
| NobodyCam | #topic RC1 status check. | 05:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1 status check. (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 05:10 | |
| NobodyCam | looks like the bug list has growen | 05:10 |
| NobodyCam | grown even | 05:10 |
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| BadCub | Blueprints: 1 Implemented Bugs:6 Confirmed, 5 Triaged, 7 In Progress, 10 Fix Committed | 05:11 |
| BadCub | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 05:11 |
| rameshg87 | time to discuss about critical one - Ironic sets instance as active even if bootloader installation fails when boot_option is 'local' ? | 05:11 |
| NobodyCam | rameshg87: look what the #1 critical bug is :0 heheheh | 05:12 |
| rameshg87 | i filed this bug | 05:12 |
| rameshg87 | pxe_ipmitool supports both dib ramdisk and ipa ramdisk now | 05:12 |
| jroll | rameshg87: can you explain this a bit more? it's not clear to me if the grub installation fails, or if the instance fails to boot due to grub not being present in the image | 05:12 |
| rameshg87 | when localboot is used - ipa ramdisk can report back the status of bootloader installation, whereas dib ramdisk cannot | 05:12 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1422723 | 05:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1422723 in Ironic "Ironic sets instance as active even if bootloader installation fails when boot_option is 'local'" [Critical,Confirmed] | 05:13 |
| rameshg87 | since we don't wait for status of boot loader installation from dib ramdisk, we mark the instance as active | 05:13 |
| Haomeng | rameshg87: yes, after 2nd reboot, the baremetal is outof control from nova and ironic I think | 05:13 |
| rameshg87 | code in this block: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py#L556-L571 | 05:14 |
| jroll | oh, ouch, this is nasty | 05:14 |
| rameshg87 | Haomeng: yes, node never boots up if boot loader installation failed, and nova says instance is active | 05:14 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/pxe.py#L556-L571 | 05:14 |
| jroll | Haomeng: this is a deploy failure that we do not catch | 05:15 |
| Haomeng | rameshg87: yes, this is *control gap* I think, but it is diffcult to get connection after 2nd reboot | 05:15 |
| Haomeng | jroll: yes | 05:15 |
| jroll | Haomeng: first reboot, this is in deploy image | 05:15 |
| rameshg87 | now an initial idea which lucasagomes and myself discussed was introduction of a second vendor-passthru for communicating status of bootloader installation | 05:15 |
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| jroll | Haomeng: https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/blob/master/elements/deploy-ironic/init.d/80-deploy-ironic#L69-138 | 05:15 |
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| Haomeng | jroll: thk, got | 05:16 |
| rameshg87 | and ironic waiting till dib ramdisk calls back before turning the instance active | 05:16 |
| rameshg87 | but that requires changes in both dib and ironic - and might be too much for rc1 in my opinion | 05:16 |
| jroll | rameshg87: what are the other options? that seems sane to me (but lots of code) | 05:16 |
| Haomeng | Haomeng: so need more communications during bootloader installing | 05:16 |
| rameshg87 | unless someone else have better ideas | 05:16 |
| Haomeng | rameshg87: I think the basic idea is good one | 05:17 |
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| * jroll thinks we need to ditch the bash ramdisk sooner than later | 05:17 | |
| rameshg87 | jroll: nothing else come to my mind other than a vendor passthru (there is no other way dib ramdisk to talk to ironic) | 05:17 |
| * rameshg87 is +1 with jroll | 05:17 | |
| NobodyCam | ya i cann't think of a better way right now | 05:17 |
| jroll | rameshg87: right, I tend to think that's fine | 05:17 |
| pshige | ditto | 05:18 |
| NobodyCam | rameshg87: is that somethign you've started on? | 05:18 |
| Haomeng | jroll: +1 | 05:18 |
| rameshg87 | NobodyCam: no haven't started anything on it | 05:18 |
| NobodyCam | can you? | 05:19 |
| NobodyCam | or more correctlly can we assign the bug to you? | 05:19 |
| rameshg87 | NobodyCam: yes i can, may be the same i discussed above i can give it a shot and see how it works | 05:19 |
| rameshg87 | NobodyCam: yeah, i can take it up | 05:20 |
| rameshg87 | but with 9 days left, i might miss it for rc1 :( | 05:20 |
| NobodyCam | rameshg87: I think we agree its a valid approch | 05:20 |
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| NobodyCam | rameshg87: ack. THank you! | 05:20 |
| rameshg87 | i mean i can get code ready, but there a lot more things to consider :( | 05:20 |
| Haomeng | can we just move 'nc -l -p 10000' to latest line, and capture &raise install bootloader exception if failed | 05:20 |
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| rameshg87 | like node should move to wait-call-back state to wait for dib ramdisk to come back again, and such things | 05:21 |
| rameshg87 | i will give it a try NobodyCam | 05:21 |
| NobodyCam | Haomeng: that really should be the last line (almost) | 05:21 |
| NobodyCam | awesoem TY rameshg87 :) | 05:21 |
| devananda | morning, folks. apologies for being late, it's something like 5am here. | 05:22 |
| rameshg87 | ouch :D | 05:22 |
| NobodyCam | morning devananda | 05:22 |
| jroll | morning devananda :) | 05:22 |
| BadCub | morning devananda | 05:22 |
| rameshg87 | morning devananda | 05:22 |
| NobodyCam | I was hopping you'd still be asleep | 05:22 |
| Haomeng | NobodyCam: I mean after "if [ "$IRONIC_BOOT_OPTION" = "local" ]; then" block, maybe I missed something here | 05:22 |
| mrda | hey devananda vgridnev | 05:22 |
| devananda | so that approach may work, but requires coordinating a change with diskimage-builder | 05:22 |
| Haomeng | devananda: morning:) | 05:22 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: have you read the scroll back? | 05:22 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: yes | 05:23 |
| devananda | and it breaks compatiility with a ramdisk built by previous versions because they will not send the second call-back. right? | 05:23 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: it's only for localboot | 05:23 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: i mean 2nd call back will come only when boot_option == 'local' | 05:23 |
| NobodyCam | which they donn't support | 05:23 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: and we will wait for second call back only when boot_option == 'local' | 05:23 |
| devananda | sure. but if I upgrade Ironic from juno to kilo, suddenly I cant use hte same deploy ramdisk??? that's ... not right | 05:23 |
| jroll | which what doesn't support? | 05:23 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: ah yes | 05:24 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: but localboot is a new feature which needs a newer ramdisk, and we should recommend a new ramdisk :) | 05:24 |
| NobodyCam | previous versions of dib ramsdisks | 05:24 |
| devananda | rameshg87: does it need a newer ramdisk? | 05:24 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: i mean a ramdisk built recently which supports the feature | 05:25 |
| jroll | (this still can break people deploying trunk) | 05:25 |
| devananda | rameshg87: what change in DIB enabled this? | 05:25 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/commit/9880d16d47aad92b625e543ede2590c058bcea14 | 05:25 |
| NobodyCam | jan 9 | 05:25 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: a second call back after installing boot loader in https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/blob/master/elements/deploy-ironic/init.d/80-deploy-ironic#L73-L137 | 05:25 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: oh NobodyCam has correct link :) | 05:26 |
| devananda | I see | 05:26 |
| devananda | so yes, we need to get a fix into dib, then get a release of it done, and recommend that version as a minimum for kilo support | 05:27 |
| NobodyCam | rameshg87: can you update the bug the plan ? | 05:29 |
| rameshg87 | okay, i will try this approach and see how it goes on, will give an update asap | 05:29 |
| rameshg87 | yeah NobodyCam will do that | 05:29 |
| NobodyCam | rameshg87: great thank you :) | 05:29 |
| NobodyCam | ok next bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1405131 | 05:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1405131 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Ports cannot be mapped to networks" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Mark Goddard (mgoddard) | 05:29 |
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| NobodyCam | low | 05:29 |
| NobodyCam | huh | 05:29 |
| jroll | that's just nova priority | 05:30 |
| NobodyCam | ok | 05:30 |
| BadCub | yep | 05:30 |
| NobodyCam | i thought I pasted the wrong bug | 05:30 |
| jroll | so, that looks like a fairly large patch for nova at this point in time | 05:30 |
| devananda | this one seems to be "hardware deployed by ironic that has >1 NIC behaves poorly with networking" | 05:31 |
| devananda | it doesn't look like anyone's actively working on it, though | 05:32 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: are you seeing this in testing bifrost? | 05:32 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: we've only got one NIC, essentially, so no | 05:32 |
| jroll | devananda: >1 physical network, it seems | 05:32 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: and we're not using Nova in Bifrost | 05:32 |
| devananda | jroll: correct | 05:32 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 05:32 |
| jroll | "physical". | 05:32 |
| NobodyCam | do we need some one on this bug? | 05:33 |
| devananda | jroll: i'd wonder if you guys are hitting this though | 05:33 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: it doesn't seem to be behaving poorly | 05:33 |
| jroll | it doesn't break me, but I've observed that this is a thing | 05:33 |
| jroll | devananda: ^ | 05:33 |
| rameshg87 | "2014-12-23 05:03:20.877 227052 ERROR ironic.conductor.manager [-] Timeout reached when waiting callback for node 49f8b733-525d-44a2-ae19-596b19aa5d1a" | 05:33 |
| devananda | jroll: how so? | 05:33 |
| jroll | devananda: because we only register the two NICs we put in a bond | 05:33 |
| rameshg87 | indicates deployment is never done | 05:33 |
| devananda | ahh | 05:33 |
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| jroll | devananda: we assign two networks but both are just vlans on the bond (I hope that makes sense, I'm tired) | 05:34 |
| devananda | rameshg87: "behaving poorly" == "randomly failing" in my 5am-i-havent-had-coffee voice :) | 05:34 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: oh, okay | 05:34 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 05:34 |
| jroll | but yes, this is certainly a bug, I agree. not sure the best way to fix | 05:35 |
| devananda | jroll: so there's a patch from mark, but a) it needs work, b) it's sizeable and late in the cycle, c) it's all in nova | 05:35 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: 4) and might more need work in ironic too | 05:35 |
| devananda | if we want to fix it, i'd say someone should work with mark or just take it over to clean up | 05:35 |
| devananda | rameshg87: indeed | 05:35 |
| jroll | devananda: d) it changes the driver API, best I can tell | 05:36 |
| devananda | erm :( | 05:36 |
| jroll | see the returns here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153230/2/nova/virt/driver.py | 05:36 |
| devananda | oh yah. see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153230/2/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py,cm | 05:37 |
| jroll | heh, line 326 on the old version of the diff is telling | 05:37 |
| devananda | yea, that's ... going to take some discussion with the Nova folks | 05:37 |
| devananda | indeed | 05:38 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: but bug says get physical network id from ironic ports metadata - "tag the ironic ports with some metadata, such as the provider:physical_network" | 05:38 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: do we need to keep this as high? | 05:38 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: might be queriable with our current api itself from nova driver i think | 05:38 |
| jroll | rameshg87: sure, I just don't see this getting fixed in 9 days | 05:38 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: +1 :) | 05:38 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: +1 | 05:39 |
| jroll | rameshg87: I think it is bigger than the driver after reading deva's link | 05:39 |
| devananda | so the tldr here is that ironic does not support >1 NIC with physically different networks and static network config (ie, non-openflow) | 05:39 |
| devananda | ** s/ironic/openstack's bare metal service/ | 05:39 |
| rameshg87 | :) | 05:40 |
| devananda | because this is a limitation currently in the interaction between ironic + nova + neutron | 05:40 |
| jroll | yep | 05:40 |
| devananda | fixing this in Nova requires storing additional metadata in Ironic and additional processes done by the user (ie, create the right networks in Neutron first, store the right metadata in Ironic) | 05:40 |
| devananda | sounds like a lot more work than we're going to do right now. AND I'd like us to actualy discuss the design a bit | 05:41 |
| devananda | I'm sad, but let's accept and document the limitation for Kilo | 05:41 |
| jroll | we want to overhaul networking stuff in L anyway | 05:41 |
| devananda | yep | 05:41 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 05:41 |
| NobodyCam | ++ | 05:42 |
| devananda | who's going to follow up to make sure this is documented appropriately? | 05:42 |
| devananda | BadCub: ^ ? | 05:42 |
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| * rameshg87 heard from dtantsur that discoverd creates ironic ports only for mac which pxe booted discoverd ramdisk, not sure | 05:42 | |
| BadCub | are you looking for tracking or writing the docs? | 05:43 |
| devananda | rameshg87: that sounds like a bug :( | 05:43 |
| devananda | BadCub: either or both | 05:43 |
| BadCub | lol | 05:43 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: might not be the case, that's why i am not sure. i will check with dtantsur | 05:43 |
| rameshg87 | :) | 05:43 |
| BadCub | Am happy to stab at it | 05:44 |
| NobodyCam | awesome! | 05:44 |
| NobodyCam | ok how about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1432761 | 05:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432761 in Ironic "Cannot perform get_cleaning_steps on powered off node." [High,Confirmed] | 05:44 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: i don't think we have /nodes/<node>/clean_steps api | 05:45 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: i think we bumped that to L | 05:45 |
| * rameshg87 gets the link | 05:46 | |
| rameshg87 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159322/ | 05:46 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159322/ | 05:46 |
| jroll | then why is there a bug filed | 05:47 |
| rameshg87 | this is a bug for non-merged code infact :) | 05:47 |
| jroll | by JoshNang of all people | 05:47 |
| devananda | haha | 05:47 |
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| NobodyCam | hahah | 05:47 |
| NobodyCam | BadCub: i think 1432761 need to be un targeted for rc-1 | 05:47 |
| wanyen | In any rate, the get_cleaning_steps api should allow to take place while node is powered off for oob implementation | 05:47 |
| BadCub | kk | 05:48 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: yes I would think so | 05:48 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: I'm marking it not-a-bug | 05:48 |
| NobodyCam | about 15 minutes left ... stay on bugs or??? | 05:48 |
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| BadCub | removed from review day pad as well | 05:49 |
| devananda | I'd like to ask - are there other bugs which are not targeted to RC1 | 05:50 |
| devananda | that folks are hitting? | 05:50 |
| devananda | this is the time to be testing, filing bugs, raising awareness of hte issues | 05:50 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1431929 | 05:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1431929 in Ironic "Ironic failing to gracefully handle: ipmi error "insufficient resources for session"" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Julia Kreger (juliaashleykreger) | 05:51 |
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| devananda | eww | 05:51 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: this one too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1437549 | 05:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1437549 in Ironic "ilo inspection fails when inspect_ports is an integer" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ramakrishnan G (rameshg87) | 05:51 |
| jroll | devananda: so I have a weird issue with a conductor flapping (according to driver-list, going by the logs everything seems fine), but haven't determined if it's environmental yet | 05:51 |
| jroll | just a heads up, idk if it's a hashring bug or what | 05:52 |
| * NobodyCam saw jroll's comment about could be config :-p | 05:52 | |
| NobodyCam | hehehe | 05:52 |
| NobodyCam | *ducks* | 05:52 |
| devananda | jroll: what do you mean by flapping? | 05:52 |
| jroll | devananda: sometimes it's in the response, sometimes it isn't | 05:53 |
| jroll | don't panic yet, just pointing it out :) | 05:53 |
| * rameshg87 hits the issue nova delete takes too long time to complete when we do "nova boot" for two instances and tries to delete one of them | 05:53 | |
| rameshg87 | don't know if someone else is hitting this | 05:53 |
| jroll | rameshg87: delete is while instance is active or deploying? | 05:53 |
| rameshg87 | wait-call-back | 05:53 |
| rameshg87 | node is in wait-call-back | 05:53 |
| rameshg87 | instance in nova is spawning | 05:54 |
| rameshg87 | *instances in nova are spawning | 05:54 |
| jroll | rameshg87: oh, I think set-provision-state deleted calls might get a 409 during that, but not sure | 05:54 |
| devananda | jroll: response to what? | 05:54 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: i hit this yesterday, will try to see what is happening and then file a bug if i see something odd | 05:54 |
| devananda | oh. gah. yes, i get it | 05:54 |
| jroll | devananda: "ironic driver-list" | 05:55 |
| devananda | jroll: that suggests the heartbeat has timed out | 05:55 |
| devananda | jroll: ie, the periodic task in the conductor hasn't "checked in" recently enough | 05:55 |
| jroll | devananda: right, but it's quicker than that | 05:55 |
| jroll | like I said, I need to dig, it's quite odd | 05:55 |
| devananda | huh | 05:55 |
| NobodyCam | * 5 minute bell * | 05:55 |
| devananda | yea, that's odd | 05:55 |
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| jroll | it will go online for like 5 seconds | 05:55 |
| jroll | rameshg87: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1437549 why would inspect_ports be an integer? :/ | 05:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1437549 in Ironic "ilo inspection fails when inspect_ports is an integer" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Ramakrishnan G (rameshg87) | 05:57 |
| jroll | the error could be better but seems like that shouldn't happen much | 05:57 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: because of https://github.com/openstack/python-ironicclient/blob/master/ironicclient/common/utils.py#L96-L101 | 05:57 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: of our python-ironicclient | 05:57 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: as mentioned on comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168776/1/ironic/tests/drivers/ilo/test_inspect.py L83 (my reply) | 05:58 |
| devananda | rameshg87: and why would inspect_ports be 'none' ? | 05:58 |
| jroll | rameshg87: isn't inspect_ports supposed to be a uuid or mac address or something? | 05:58 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: when operator doesn't want ironic to inspect ports (for some reason) | 05:58 |
| jroll | oh wait | 05:58 |
| jroll | what | 05:58 |
| jroll | whaaaat | 05:59 |
| rameshg87 | jroll: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ilo/common.py#L79-L85 | 05:59 |
| NobodyCam | * minute warnning * | 05:59 |
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| devananda | rameshg87: what if I don't use python-ironicclient and I pass some other value like 'true', 'True', or 'zebra' ? | 05:59 |
| jroll | rameshg87: urgh. | 05:59 |
| NobodyCam | can we take this back into channel? | 06:00 |
| rameshg87 | devananda: we will catch it here: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ilo/inspect.py#L307-L314 | 06:00 |
| rameshg87 | NobodyCam: okay | 06:00 |
| jroll | I don't even know what that means | 06:00 |
| jroll | yeah | 06:00 |
| NobodyCam | awesome thank you | 06:00 |
| devananda | rameshg87: or if I unset that field by calling ironic node-update NNN delete driver_info/inspect_ports | 06:00 |
| NobodyCam | GReat meeting everyone ... we are out of time | 06:00 |
| BadCub | good night folks | 06:00 |
| NobodyCam | thank you all | 06:00 |
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| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 06:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 06:01:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-03-31-04.59.html | 06:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-03-31-04.59.txt | 06:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-03-31-04.59.log.html | 06:01 |
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| swamireddy1 | #startmeeting EC2-API | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 14:00:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is swamireddy1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: EC2-API)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ec2_api' | 14:00 |
| swamireddy1 | ping alevine | 14:00 |
| alevine | pong | 14:00 |
| swamireddy1 | ping rushiagr | 14:00 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: Welcome | 14:01 |
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| andrey-mp | #help | 14:01 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: As this is first meeting and need to check the currnet status | 14:01 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: on the EC2 APIs | 14:01 |
| swamireddy1 | andrey-mp: Need help here? | 14:02 |
| andrey-mp | no | 14:02 |
| swamireddy1 | andrey-mp: cool | 14:02 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: Status of which EC2 API are you interested in? nova or stackforge? | 14:03 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: Currently EC2 API standalone project...how many EC2 APIs supported mean implemented and tested? | 14:03 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: I don't understand the question. | 14:03 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: Is not NOVA any more as its (going) deprecated soon | 14:03 |
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| swamireddy1 | alevine: so we will talk on stackforge only, eventually its called as standalone EC2 API | 14:04 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: ok | 14:04 |
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| swamireddy1 | alevine: OK. Q is: How may EC2 API supported the stackforge project? | 14:05 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: Are there any reviews pending? | 14:05 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: What do you mean by "how many EC2 API"? There is only one EC2 API. | 14:05 |
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| alevine | swamireddy1: Review there appear and get closed all the time. There are some ongoing at the moment. | 14:06 |
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| swamireddy1 | alevine: EC2 API is live APIs for ex: create_instanace, terminate_instance, stop_instance,etc all are EC2 APIs | 14:07 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: Cool. Please let us know, if any review pending | 14:07 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: Well, I can't agree with such definition. EC2 API - is a set of the commands you just listed. | 14:07 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: so that we review the same asap | 14:08 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: You mean the reviews for changes in nova? | 14:08 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: Or reviews in the stackforge? | 14:08 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: Iam ok with as set commands... | 14:08 |
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| alevine | swamireddy1: There is a list of limitations in the README and blueprint as I recall. The rest is supported. | 14:09 |
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| swamireddy1 | alevine: I guess, we won´t go with Nova EC2 APIs review, as its going to deprecate and Nova team also may not agree for review and merge the code ATM | 14:10 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: Great :( | 14:10 |
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| swamireddy1 | alevine: so expect limitations mentioned in the README, rest should work... | 14:10 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: :) | 14:11 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: yes | 14:11 |
| rushiagr | sorry, I'm late | 14:11 |
| swamireddy1 | rushiagr: welcome | 14:11 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: We need to plan and work toward the standalone EC2 API support... | 14:12 |
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| swamireddy1 | any inputs or suggestions are welcome | 14:12 |
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| alevine | swamireddy1: Well, for now we're totally ok. Since it's an independent project, we're not dependent anymore on nova, now that they approved our extensions. | 14:13 |
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| swamireddy1 | alevine: Good | 14:14 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: We are the team to make the standalone EC2 API project sucessful... | 14:14 |
| alevine | swamireddy1: Honestly speaking, I don't see much value in this meeting in the future, because there is not much to discuss at the moment. Whatever's needed we can ask in the mailing list. I understood it was suggested to have this meeting when there was need to discuss bugs in nova's EC2 API and necessary extensions. But for now nothing is required. | 14:15 |
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| swamireddy1 | alevine: I wont agree fully. But weekly meeting may not needed...But atleast we should meet bi-wekly and need see how we ate going... | 14:16 |
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| swamireddy1 | rushiagr: Do you any thoughts? | 14:17 |
| rushiagr | (or maybe if we don't have anything to discuss, we can close off the meeting in 10 mins) | 14:17 |
| swamireddy1 | rushiagr: I aggre and we need not use full 60 min. time slot...we are ok and no issues, we can close this meeting in 15-30 min... | 14:18 |
| rushiagr | swamireddy1: right | 14:19 |
| swamireddy1 | alevine: what is your opinion | 14:19 |
| alevine | alevine: Yes, I guess we can close the meeting and keep in touch in mail until we have something to discuss. | 14:19 |
| swamireddy1 | sure.... | 14:20 |
| swamireddy1 | rushiagr: Do you have anything? | 14:20 |
| rushiagr | nope | 14:20 |
| swamireddy1 | no items to discuss, we can end the meeting | 14:21 |
| swamireddy1 | ok. Thank for joining the meeting | 14:21 |
| swamireddy1 | #endmeeting | 14:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 14:21:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ec2_api/2015/ec2_api.2015-03-31-14.00.html | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ec2_api/2015/ec2_api.2015-03-31-14.00.txt | 14:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ec2_api/2015/ec2_api.2015-03-31-14.00.log.html | 14:21 |
| alevine | bye everybody | 14:21 |
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| andrey-mp | swamireddy1: did you see now opened reviews? | 14:22 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all! | 17:00 |
| thinrichs | Let's get the Congress meeting started. | 17:00 |
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| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 17:00:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:00 |
| thinrichs | Let's give people a couple of minutes before we get started. | 17:01 |
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| arosen1 | Hi | 17:01 |
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| thinrichs | arosen1: hi | 17:01 |
| alexsyip | hi all | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | That's enough folks to get started with status updates. | 17:02 |
| bryan_att | Hi all | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | #topic status | 17:02 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: hi! | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | arosen1: want to give your status report? | 17:02 |
| arosen1 | sure | 17:03 |
| arosen1 | so the CI should be back up and running correctly soon. Once this patch mergers in tempest we'll be good again: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169115/4 | 17:03 |
| iben | lurking | 17:04 |
| arosen1 | I'm also working on a trigger api call that can be given to congress to on-demand update a specific datasource. | 17:04 |
| arosen1 | that's all i have to report for now. | 17:04 |
| thinrichs | iben: hi! | 17:04 |
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| thinrichs | arosen1: that's cool stuff. We've talked about having those triggers for a long time. Good to see it's finally happening. | 17:05 |
| thinrichs | alexsyip: want to go next? | 17:05 |
| alexsyip | I have the datasource configuration synchronization working. | 17:05 |
| alexsyip | I’ve been working on a tempest test to verify it but I’ve been having to setup authentication via keystone and I’m not sure how that needs to work yet. | 17:06 |
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| alexsyip | I will talk with arosen1 today to get some help. | 17:06 |
| alexsyip | that’s all. | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | So this is our first foray into high-availability. | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | Cool! | 17:07 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: do you have any further questions, or are you finding everything you need? | 17:08 |
| bryan_att | Pierre from vmware was looking into an ansible installer for Congress - we are waiting for that to proceed with Saltstack install | 17:08 |
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| thinrichs | pettori: you there? How's the ansible installer going? | 17:09 |
| pettori | hi guys | 17:09 |
| pettori | sorry the ansible installer is mostly done | 17:09 |
| iben | link? | 17:09 |
| pettori | probably will be finish today or tomorrow | 17:09 |
| pettori | I will see if we can push it today and will send the link | 17:10 |
| iben | it’s okay (better) to be a work in progress. | 17:10 |
| iben | would never really be “done” would it? | 17:10 |
| pettori | sounds good | 17:10 |
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| thinrichs | iben: yep | 17:10 |
| bryan_att | thanks for the update | 17:10 |
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| bryan_att | other status: I'm continuing to test out Congress using devstack and further developing the use cases and requirements under the OPNFV Copper project. I'll next be writing test cases to exercise the use cases given the current Congress datasources. | 17:11 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: that's great! We love having more use cases. | 17:11 |
| arosen1 | bryan_att: awesome! | 17:11 |
| bryan_att | My goal is to have something to demo at one or more up the upcoming conferences - NFV World, OpenStack, ONS, etc | 17:12 |
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| bryan_att | This time I will have a real running platform in our labs to use - based upon OPNFV if I can get Congress installed on top of it | 17:12 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: let us kow when you hit snags — we're happy to help. | 17:12 |
| bryan_att | sure -thanks. For now, it doesn't look like we will have any blueprints for L release though. | 17:13 |
| bryan_att | I put a couple placeholders but my investigation showed that the Congress code has a pretty comprehensive set of data exposed | 17:13 |
| bryan_att | So I will start there and test out the use cases | 17:14 |
| thinrichs | Makes sense. | 17:14 |
| bryan_att | the pub-sub framework for realtime event notification is also something I am interested in | 17:14 |
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| thinrichs | The reason we don't have blueprints for Liberty is that there's been a bunch of activity recently that we're trying to help along. | 17:14 |
| thinrichs | And we have some code to write for a demo for one of the OpenStack Congress talks. | 17:15 |
| thinrichs | Right now I'm planning for a feature freeze in a little more than a week (with the exception of code needed for the demo). | 17:15 |
| bryan_att | For future releases, has there been any discussion about real-time policy-related data notifications from openstack components? | 17:15 |
| thinrichs | Then we'll have a month to debug and finalize a release candidate. | 17:16 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: the only thing we've considered is arosen1's work on triggers to tell us when to refresh our data cache. | 17:16 |
| bryan_att | OK, I will watch that | 17:16 |
| thinrichs | Doing a real-time data pull each time we answer a query would be expensive. | 17:17 |
| thinrichs | in general. | 17:17 |
| thinrichs | But having the ability to pick and choose how fresh the data needs to be, with one option being real-time fresh would be nice. | 17:17 |
| bryan_att | yes, I meant reall setting a trigger for an openstack component to tell Congress when a certain data change occurred. Similar to some of the things proposed for Cielometer. | 17:18 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: yep—that's what arosen1 is working on right now. | 17:18 |
| bryan_att | cool | 17:18 |
| thinrichs | jwy: how's your stuff going? | 17:19 |
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| jwy | good, i have patches for create policy, delete policy, and delete policy rule: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/congress+branch:master+topic:bp/horizon-create-policies,n,z | 17:19 |
| jwy | the first 3 are ready for review | 17:19 |
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| jwy | expecting to be done with the remaining, create policy rule, this week | 17:20 |
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| jwy | been helping Rajdeep and Yali with their blueprints | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | Cool! Can I have a couple of volunteers familiar with Horizon to review? | 17:21 |
| thinrichs | Ok then—we'll volunteer offline. | 17:21 |
| thinrichs | jwy: don't be shy about poking people. :) | 17:22 |
| jwy | yep, thanks | 17:22 |
| jwy | that's all i have | 17:22 |
| thinrichs | jwy: thanks | 17:22 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: I see you've been making progress this week. Want to tell us about it? | 17:22 |
| stevenldt | Sure. | 17:23 |
| stevenldt | I finish up the action execution interface. The functional is in. Last set of changes are ready for review. | 17:23 |
| stevenldt | Next thing would be some tempest tests and additional API | 17:23 |
| stevenldt | I also make changes to Murano driver to have a workaround for recursive rules used in Murano | 17:24 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: good stuff! Action execution is important for the reactive form of enforcement we're hoping to get into kilo. | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | More on our progress on reactive enforcement in a bit. | 17:25 |
| stevenldt | That's about it for me. | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: thanks! | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | One more thought on this topic... | 17:25 |
| thinrichs | for those that don't know, our policy engine doesn't currently support recursion. | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | (There's an experimental version that does, but it's not ready yet.) | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | The integration with Murano needs recursion, so instead of putting it into the policy itself, stevenldt put that logic into the datasource driver. | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | We'll need to experiment whether this is the right approach long-term, but for now it seems to be the right way to go. | 17:27 |
| thinrichs | I have a few items to report on, but before that... | 17:27 |
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| thinrichs | did I miss anyone who has a status report for us? | 17:28 |
| thinrichs | A couple of things to report on then. | 17:29 |
| thinrichs | First the Congress project is applying to become part of OpenStack proper (what used to be known as 'incubated') | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165204/ | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | I'll give everyone a minute to look that over. | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | Of particular interest are the comments from the community at the bottom. | 17:31 |
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| thinrichs | Given our plans to do a release on roughly the usual schedule for kilo, there don't seem to be any major objections. | 17:33 |
| thinrichs | But we should do what we can to make the official kilo release date. | 17:34 |
| arosen1 | sounds good to me. | 17:34 |
| arosen1 | I think we should definitely be able to do that. | 17:34 |
| bryan_att | seems a go from the comments | 17:34 |
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| jwy | exciting | 17:35 |
| thinrichs | The only potential holdup for hitting the release is the explicit-reactive-enforcement work. | 17:35 |
| thinrichs | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/explicit-reactive-enforcement | 17:35 |
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| thinrichs | We've seen a bunch of work being done on it, and it was one of the main features we planned for kilo. | 17:36 |
| thinrichs | And I think we're pretty close to getting it done. | 17:36 |
| thinrichs | If you scroll to the bottom of that blueprint, you'll see it's really 4 blueprints that are needed for completion. | 17:37 |
| thinrichs | The 3 dependent blueprints are nearing completion now. | 17:37 |
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| thinrichs | And something close to the 4th one (an application of the policy-engine triggers) was just pushed for review this week. | 17:38 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134340/ | 17:38 |
| thinrichs | So in short, we're getting close. | 17:39 |
| thinrichs | With some luck we can get it all in place by the end of next week. | 17:39 |
| thinrichs | So that's why it seems like the right time for feature freeze and to cut a kilo3 milestone release. | 17:39 |
| thinrichs | That'll give us a 3+ weeks to bug-fix, sync docs, etc. before the official kilo release. | 17:40 |
| thinrichs | Sound like a plan? | 17:40 |
| alexsyip | sounds good to me. | 17:40 |
| jwy | yep | 17:40 |
| thinrichs | I guess I should also mention that I've started working on a delegation demo for one of our talks at the summit. | 17:42 |
| thinrichs | Some links… | 17:42 |
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| thinrichs | PoC design doc: | 17:43 |
| thinrichs | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ksDilJYXV-5AXWON8PLMedDKr9NpS8VbT0jIy_MIEtI/edit# | 17:43 |
| thinrichs | People who signed up for some of the pieces of the work: | 17:43 |
| thinrichs | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12_1TD-MED_EIGaoEhUE62IjrwbAmLgS9eX6gAo3-qKM/edit#gid=0 | 17:43 |
| thinrichs | Skeleton for our first domain-specific policy engine driver | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167407/ | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | There's plenty to do here, so let me know if you're interested. | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | I think that's it for my status report. | 17:44 |
| thinrichs | Let's open it up for discussion now. | 17:45 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 17:45 |
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| bryan_att | thanks for the delegation doc links. very interesting, I will review with our policy team | 17:46 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: let me know if you have any questions! | 17:46 |
| jwy | thinrichs: i saw on the openstack-dev list that there's a meeting today for PTLs and cross-project liaisons to discuss design summit content. will you be attending? | 17:47 |
| jwy | do you know if sarob got any info last week about getting a congress time slot during the design summit? | 17:48 |
| thinrichs | jwy: when I talked to him Friday he hadn't heard back about the design session yet. | 17:48 |
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| thinrichs | We should probably ping him about it later in the week. | 17:49 |
| thinrichs | jwy: I hadn't heard about the PTLs and the design summit. Do you have a link handy? | 17:49 |
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| jwy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting | 17:49 |
| thinrichs | I'll definitely try to attend that—or at least lurk. | 17:52 |
| thinrichs | jwy: thanks for the pointer! | 17:52 |
| jwy | thinrichs: cool, np | 17:52 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 17:53 |
| thinrichs | OK. Let's call it for today then. | 17:54 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 17:54 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 17:54:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 19:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:00 |
| etoews | o/ | 19:00 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:00 |
| briancurtin | if you're here for the SDK meeting, say hi | 19:00 |
| dstufft | o/ | 19:01 |
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| briancurtin | #topic Functional Testing | 19:01 |
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| briancurtin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169405/ - Moving unit tests | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | so, how exactly do we want to do this? | 19:02 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: is that devstack setup pretty much ready to roll? | 19:02 |
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| stevelle | o/ | 19:03 |
| terrylhowe | I was thinking of moving it to examples | 19:03 |
| terrylhowe | it could be generalized a bit more too | 19:03 |
| briancurtin | and i guess how is it going to work, like where is the vm going to come from that it's running on? is it as part of teh gate or something we'll run locally to point to our own accessible clouds? | 19:03 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: just as an example of setting up devstack, or for using it? if we're using that for anything i dont think it should be in examples, but we can point to it in documentation as an example usage that we actually depend on | 19:04 |
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| etoews | one way or the other we'll always need something we'll run locally to point to our own accessible clouds | 19:04 |
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| terrylhowe | I think for gates you can just opt for the projects you want added to devstack and you get control when it is ready | 19:05 |
| briancurtin | seems like maybe it should be in something like openstack/tests/utils? | 19:05 |
| terrylhowe | I do think it would be nice to have at least a template for local.conf or something that everyone can use | 19:06 |
| etoews | yes | 19:06 |
| terrylhowe | maybe that is a good place | 19:06 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: +1 | 19:06 |
| etoews | that's kind of the minimum thing we'll need to agree on | 19:06 |
| briancurtin | maybe we should work backwards from what we actually want to be testing. is this intended to be something live like create a container with some metadata, get the metadata and confirm it, add some objects, list them and confirm they're there, then delete it all? | 19:07 |
| etoews | that's what i had in mind | 19:07 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, basic crud testing for each resource | 19:08 |
| etoews | and the tests run sequentially because of the crud operations | 19:08 |
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| etoews | eventually we'll need to be able to run the functional tests against hp and rackspace and other public clouds but for now we just start with devstack | 19:09 |
| etoews | the patch i'm working on for after moving the unit tests is to just run 1 simple functional test | 19:10 |
| briancurtin | yeah, that eventually gets into the plugin stuff and third-party CIs and all of that jazz | 19:10 |
| briancurtin | etoews: cool | 19:10 |
| etoews | the trick will be getting only the functional test to run | 19:10 |
| terrylhowe | just being able to list flavors or something simple would be great | 19:10 |
| etoews | yep. something like that. | 19:11 |
| etoews | i'll also be using os-client-config | 19:11 |
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| etoews | it's simple enough | 19:11 |
| briancurtin | etoews: i haven't toyed around with tox setups in a while, but i think we just need a separate group of test envs that point to a different test directory | 19:11 |
| briancurtin | and we probably have to tell the current one to be more explicit about where to look | 19:11 |
| terrylhowe | osc is using the —os-cloud option for os-client-config | 19:12 |
| etoews | briancurtin: i was digging into it this morning and looking for options | 19:12 |
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| etoews | terrylhowe: i'm not familiar with the --os-cloud option. what is it? | 19:12 |
| etoews | link? | 19:12 |
| briancurtin | etoews: i hadn't had time to try it myself, but i posted on the review for the changedir option | 19:12 |
| etoews | briancurtin: i'll give that a try | 19:13 |
| terrylhowe | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129795/ | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | i believe right now it's starting in the root for discovery, we just have to tell it to jump a few levels deeper, as far as i know | 19:13 |
| terrylhowe | ^^ that is the osc review of os-client-config | 19:13 |
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| terrylhowe | I was hoping we’d add support in the examples and use that for the functional tests | 19:13 |
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| terrylhowe | we don’t want os-client-config as a dependency of the project, but test dependency is fine | 19:14 |
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| etoews | yep. i only have it in test-requirements.txt right now. | 19:15 |
| terrylhowe | cool | 19:15 |
| etoews | so are we okay with moving the unit tests into there own sub-dir? | 19:16 |
| etoews | s/there/their/ | 19:16 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, I just have to get over the extra u<tab> | 19:16 |
| briancurtin | i think we should, as it'll allow us to group them separately from other types of tests, functional or otherwise. just requires a little extra step in tox | 19:16 |
| briancurtin | whether it's that changedir setting or something else | 19:17 |
| etoews | as long as we don't name the other sub-dir unctional it should be too bad for tab completion :) | 19:17 |
| etoews | s/should/shouldn't/ | 19:17 |
| terrylhowe | :) | 19:17 |
| briancurtin | #topic Removing httpretty | 19:18 |
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| briancurtin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164837/ -- remove httpretty from Transport tests | 19:18 |
| briancurtin | that's the last remaining "roadblock" to its removal, save for object_store tests, which have to be changed as a part of the great API change anyway | 19:18 |
| briancurtin | i would rather just let the object_store tests hold on to httpretty for right now and then they'll be changed once we apply the APIs, rather than doing test changes twice for it | 19:19 |
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| briancurtin | unless httpretty manages to release yet another broken version... | 19:19 |
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| terrylhowe | sounds good | 19:20 |
| briancurtin | the nice thing about revisiting the mocks is that we dumped a lot of mocked requests by just mocking the session itself, which turned out better where possible | 19:20 |
| jamielennox | just thought i'd snoop and saw the topic - dump httpretty - try requests-mock | 19:21 |
| briancurtin | jamielennox: yep, that's what we did | 19:21 |
| jamielennox | :) carry on | 19:21 |
| briancurtin | jamielennox: although we had a few places that didn't really need httpretty in the first place, so we bypassed requests-mock for those. it is pretty nice where we've needed it, though. nice work | 19:22 |
| jamielennox | thanks - a complete reaction to how much of a pain httpretty was | 19:22 |
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| briancurtin | #topic compute metadata | 19:23 |
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| briancurtin | if anyone has some spare cycles, steve +1ed both of these: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163639/ is the base, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163640/ is the application to Server metadata. we would also use that to create Image metadata, and i think there's another type of metadata in compute that would build off of it | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | #topic Common API changes | 19:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Common API changes (Meeting topic: python-openstacksdk)" | 19:26 | |
| briancurtin | Any of the "Common <action> method" reviews are ready to be reviewed. Already had a few +1s on the delete one. i pushed a bunch more patchsets after that while building out that decorator, but it hasnt really changed the behavior of get or delete reviews, was more for the create one and the update one i'm working on now | 19:27 |
| briancurtin | update is going to require a little more love since i'm trying to play nice between instances and IDs, but also preserving attributes when it's an instance so we make use of the dirty list and don't make calls we might not need to (right now if you just keep updating the name to the same thing it'll make that meaningless call, but i'm fixing it) | 19:28 |
| stevelle | will get them this week | 19:28 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, I was on vacation all last week, so I’m a little behind. | 19:28 |
| briancurtin | yep, all good, just saying those ones aren't as work-in-progress as they first were since they're the easier of the guidelines to have applied | 19:29 |
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| briancurtin | the one left that i haven't touched yet is the pagination calls. everyone seemed to be cool with making the method name the plural of the resource, e.g., servers, containers, images, stacks. doug mentioned potentially query_resources, which i sort of liked, but having worked with the objects/containers methods a ton, ive really enjoyed that naming | 19:33 |
| etoews | it certainly looks the most natural when you have it in a loop | 19:34 |
| stevelle | +1 | 19:34 |
| etoews | otoh it breaks away from the verb_resource naming scheme | 19:34 |
| etoews | i don't feel too strongly about it honestly | 19:35 |
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| briancurtin | calling them get_resources wouldnt be horrible, but it's so close to get_resource, and it feels like the general use cases for the listing APIs is either a loop or something consuming a generator, so the slightly shorter name fits really well | 19:37 |
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| briancurtin | get_resources is probably the only other really feasible way. list is out, query is kind of odd unless you're actually passing in query params. i guess we'll see when the review is up what the final verdict is | 19:38 |
| etoews | -1 query_resource | 19:38 |
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| briancurtin | yeah, it presents a different action for similar things. if and only if you're using the query params it seems nice. also makes it seem like you're potentially digging into the resources themselves instead of getting topical info about them | 19:39 |
| etoews | right | 19:40 |
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| briancurtin | any other outstanding topics or reviews to cover for now? | 19:41 |
| etoews | bump #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162761/ | 19:42 |
| briancurtin | need to look back at plugin and service discovery soon, but want to get the APIs sorted out much sooner than later | 19:42 |
| briancurtin | oh yeah, that one | 19:42 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: thoughts on ^ | 19:43 |
| terrylhowe | I’m still not a big fan of logging the request multiple times on a redirect, but it isn’t a huge deal either | 19:43 |
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| briancurtin | i think we'd probably want to be able to track each of the steps of the redirect, so we'd probably need the subsequent requests | 19:44 |
| briancurtin | otherwise i think it ends up being sort of a black box how we got to the end | 19:44 |
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| briancurtin | as far as i understand what's going on there | 19:44 |
| etoews | that's the short of it | 19:44 |
| etoews | multiple requests are being made on a redirect so log those requests to reflect reality. | 19:45 |
| terrylhowe | well, the request isn’t going to change, just the url | 19:45 |
| stevelle | redirects at debug makes sense to me. | 19:45 |
| stevelle | at least noting they happened | 19:46 |
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| etoews | pinging dtroyer sigmavirus24 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162761/ | 19:46 |
| sigmavirus24 | sorry. in video meeting and missed th emeeting invite | 19:47 |
| briancurtin | well, we hope the request isn't going to change (i have no idea if it's possible/realistic to be changing it, but i guess it could happen) | 19:47 |
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| terrylhowe | anyway, it isn’t a huge deal | 19:48 |
| etoews | cool | 19:48 |
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| briancurtin | anything else going on? | 19:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | uhm | 19:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | so redirect logic in requests is different than most expect | 19:50 |
| * sigmavirus24 is still catching up, sorry | 19:51 | |
| briancurtin | yeah we don't use it | 19:51 |
| sigmavirus24 | okay | 19:51 |
| etoews | should something be done with #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135104/ Add coverage-package-name to tox.ini for coverage | 19:52 |
| briancurtin | that _send_request method has a reimplementation to avoid requests' way of doing it | 19:52 |
| briancurtin | etoews: i'll revisit that. there was some difference in package availability on ubuntu or something | 19:52 |
| etoews | no biggie. just looking to sweep out the queue. | 19:53 |
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| briancurtin | yeah i have a few others to clean out, just abandoned an old WIP that was superseded by the current common reviews | 19:54 |
| terrylhowe | there is a pretty big backlog in general right now | 19:55 |
| briancurtin | oh, there's also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155954/ that has been sitting around for a while. i think it's relatively straightforward | 19:55 |
| briancurtin | but yeah, since there's a backlog, just look at whatever you can. the Common* ones are bigger and require more attention, but there's a couple quickies around | 19:56 |
| briancurtin | i guess that's it for now. thanks everyone | 19:59 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 19:59:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-03-31-19.00.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-03-31-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
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| etoews | thanks briancurtin! | 20:00 |
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