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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 1 12:00:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:00 |
| david-lyle | hello everyone | 12:00 |
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| david-lyle | time change lose everyone? | 12:01 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 12:01 |
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| robcresswell | Seems like it | 12:02 |
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| pkarikh | Hi! | 12:02 |
| samueldmq | hello | 12:02 |
| sambetts | o/ | 12:02 |
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| rdopiera | hi | 12:03 |
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| david-lyle | We're in the middle of of the RC1 milestone. | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | We had 6 FFEs, 4 merged, 1 is close and 1 has been deferred. | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | hopefully the last one will merge this week | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 12:05 |
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| david-lyle | The Federated Identity one is mostly an enablement for work happening in django_openstack_auth | 12:06 |
| david-lyle | We do have some bugs in RC1, but almost all have a patch up | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | This is time to make sure if you see a critical bug that should effect the release, to raise its visibility | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | There is another bug that I have yet to file, that I started working on yesterday where django 1.7 breaks our selenium tests, so we are blocked from updating our requirements.txt | 12:08 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, hi! Speaking of important bugs I think that https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1427819 definitely should be fixed as part of Kilo | 12:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1427819 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Downloading large objects from swift containers exhausts web-server memory" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Timur Sufiev (tsufiev-x) | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | I'll file that this morning | 12:09 |
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| david-lyle | tsufiev: it's targeted for RC1 and is marked high. Looks like the check jobs are failing, but once they're not, I don't see a reason it can't merge | 12:10 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, I'll fix one failing test in a couple of hours | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | So getting a stable RC should be the top priority right now. | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | After RC1 is cut, master will be open for Liberty features | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | Translations are the only thing targeted for RC-2 | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | any questions/comments on RC1? | 12:13 |
| samueldmq | no, I think you're good for horizon rc1 :) | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | Next general item, summit | 12:14 |
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| david-lyle | Looks like we should get all the sessions I requested, 3 fishbowl, 8 working sessions, and a full day of collaborator meetup | 12:15 |
| * david-lyle can't quite remember if I asked for full or half day, but believes full | 12:15 | |
| tsufiev | fishbowl? | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | traditional sessions | 12:15 |
| tsufiev | ah ) | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | we have a proposed topic list here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-liberty-summit | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | feel free to add/augment content there | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | There is not a formal agenda posted today, but I know samueldmq had an item | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | #topic hierarchical projects | 12:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "hierarchical projects (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:18 | |
| samueldmq | o/ | 12:18 |
| samueldmq | I have been working on adding support for hierarchical projects on Horizon | 12:18 |
| samueldmq | I thought it was good to add a point to this meeting to let you know what is going on | 12:18 |
| samueldmq | we are working together with Piet and his team, and we have a fist implementation | 12:19 |
| samueldmq | that will be probably change :) | 12:19 |
| samueldmq | first, a blog post explaining what was implemented | 12:19 |
| samueldmq | #link www.samueldmq.com/hierarchical-projects-on-horizon/ | 12:19 |
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| samueldmq | also, we have a demo running on 150.165.15.68, with Horizon credentials admin/nomoresecrete | 12:19 |
| samueldmq | this service will be kept until Saturday, feel free to try it out and give some feedback | 12:20 |
| david-lyle | this is something we will be discussing at the summit, but it would be great if people checked it out now to become more familiar with the topic | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | and provide any UX feedback | 12:21 |
| samueldmq | david-lyle, ++ exactly | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | so please take a look | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | samueldmq: what's the best way to get feedback to you? | 12:22 |
| samueldmq | also, the screen for the List Project table will change for sure with the new angularized tables | 12:22 |
| samueldmq | david-lyle, maybe comments on the patches | 12:22 |
| samueldmq | david-lyle, there links are in the blog post | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | ok, at the bottom of the page | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | good point | 12:23 |
| samueldmq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119469/ | 12:23 |
| samueldmq | the patches start on this one ^ | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | for most projects this will not be a very invasive change, other than around quotas | 12:23 |
| samueldmq | and we put them as dependent, so just need to look at dependencies on it | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | for horizon this will effect a lot more and we should take the time to understand it and provide feedback | 12:24 |
| samueldmq | david-lyle, in the blog post I tried to say how other projects can take advantage of this | 12:24 |
| samueldmq | david-lyle, yes I agree we have to get the time to implement this on horizon | 12:25 |
| samueldmq | david-lyle, we need to talk to folks from other projects to know how it should be for them | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | ok, anything else samueldmq? | 12:26 |
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| samueldmq | david-lyle, no, that's all :) | 12:26 |
| samueldmq | thanks | 12:26 |
| david-lyle | Thanks! | 12:26 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 12:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:26 | |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, I've been talking with my colleagues about recent failure of their tests for muranodashboard (Horizon plugin) due to Django 1.6->1.7 req... | 12:27 |
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| rdopiera | tsufiev: you might want to repeat | 12:28 |
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| rdopiera | or not... | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: ok, any insights | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: second IRC window | 12:29 |
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| tsufiev | rdopiera, they said failures were caused by the Django requirement being changed in devstack global-reqs | 12:29 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, ^^^ | 12:29 |
| tsufiev | missed the addressee ) | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | yes, but the problem is between horizon and selenium | 12:29 |
| tsufiev | so it appeared weird to me: the change itself didn't make it to the horizon repo, yet it was accepted in devstack | 12:30 |
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| tsufiev | do we have some influence over the devstack changes, I mean any guarantees of Horizon being stable there? | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | there is a missing STATIC_ROOT setting in horizon/test/settings, but beyond that Selenium can no longer find objects on the page | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | the pages aren't rendering | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | I worked on it part of the day yesterday and plan to resume today | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: the running code should work, it's just selenium testing that is blocking us now | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | and some of those pass too | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | like the login test | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | which is the only global tempest job horizon has | 12:32 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, yeah, thanks for quick response! I've just been thinking aloud about how we can prevent such situations in devstack in future to not harm the projects that depends on it... | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: have you found devstack to be broken? | 12:33 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, not exactly. Just the tests of apps relying on Horizon from devstack were broken | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | ok, just trying to figure out the scope of the breakage | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | the whole selenium test driven framework is proving very fragile | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | because all dependencies in devstack are taken directly from global-reqs without Horizon check jobs such as here [the commit from proposal bot for Dajngo<1.8 should be here] | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, yeah, totally true! | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | my colleague is working on integration tests, recently they were broken again for some reason nobody understands why | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | second severe break in 2 months | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: yeah I spent some time looking into that one too | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | no code changed on our part | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | I have a bug for that one | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1436903 | 12:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1436903 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "integration tests failing blocking gate" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to David Lyle (david-lyle) | 12:38 |
| tsufiev | hehe, seems that Horizon needs a person to dedicate himself to integration tests exclusively | 12:38 |
| david-lyle | So we still don't have those voting in the gate | 12:39 |
| tsufiev | Julie Pichon might have been such a person :( | 12:39 |
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| david-lyle | ok https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1439169 is now filed | 12:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439169 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "selenium tests fail with Django 1.7" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to David Lyle (david-lyle) | 12:42 |
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| david-lyle | Any other topics? | 12:43 |
| rdopiera | I have two things | 12:43 |
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| rdopiera | One is about the xstatic packages again -- motivated by the yesterday's gate problems, I finally went and fixed xstatic packages publishing, so we now do that the same way as any other openstack projects | 12:44 |
| rdopiera | I proposed a patch to the documentation explaining the new process here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169285/ | 12:44 |
| rdopiera | That should let us avoid such problems in the future. | 12:44 |
| rdopiera | (the downside is that only cores can tag) | 12:45 |
| david-lyle | well the problem we faced was the package was named incorrectly | 12:45 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, will vote with 2 arms for this :) | 12:45 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: that's not what caused the whole gate problems though -- changing a once released package was the mistake | 12:46 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: that is true | 12:46 |
| rdopiera | hopefully the warning there will make people think twice at least :) | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | but I think that was actually advice given by infra, would have to confirm that though | 12:47 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: they thought that it was already handled by other patches | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | ok, probably poor communication | 12:47 |
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| david-lyle | the cause of so many issues | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | I do appreciate your update of the docs | 12:48 |
| rdopiera | anyways, we should be better off with a better defined process that is the same as the rest of openstack | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | I agree | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: second item? | 12:49 |
| rdopiera | the second thing is more personal -- I'm leaving Red Hat in a month, and I don't know where I will land | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | and why is clippy on review.o.o now? | 12:49 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, 1st april joke :)? | 12:49 |
| rdopiera | I just thought it would be prudent to tell you guys, so that there is no surprise | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: ok, thanks for the heads up | 12:50 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, are you going to continue with OpenStack/Horizon outside of RH? | 12:50 |
| rdopiera | tsufiev: I'd love to, but I can't promise that | 12:50 |
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| david-lyle | seems like we are out of topics and almost time. | 12:54 |
| david-lyle | So I'll close. | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | Have a great week! | 12:55 |
| tsufiev | bye! | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 12:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 1 12:55:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-04-01-12.00.html | 12:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-04-01-12.00.txt | 12:55 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-04-01-12.00.log.html | 12:55 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: badveli: yushiro: hi | 18:30 |
| vishwanathj | hi | 18:30 |
| badveli | hello sumit and all | 18:30 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, vishwanathj , badveli Hi! :-) | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i know SridarK is on PTO | 18:30 |
| badveli | hello yshiro | 18:30 |
| vishwanathj | SridarK needs a well deserved break | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 1 18:30:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:30 |
| pc_m | hi | 18:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking FWaaS)" | 18:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: hi | 18:30 |
| vishwanathj | pc_m, badveli, yushiro, Hi | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | recap from the last week - | 18:31 |
| yushiro | pc_m, hi | 18:31 |
| badveli | hello vishwanathj | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Horizon - Adds configuration support to associate firewall to routers #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162552 | 18:31 |
| badveli | hello pc_m | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | was merged | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: absubram: a ton of thanks for your committment on this | 18:32 |
| vishwanathj | it was a great opportunity | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think it went through a lot more churn than we anticipated | 18:32 |
| yushiro | vishwanathj, absubram great work!! | 18:32 |
| badveli | great work vishwanathj, absubram | 18:32 |
| vishwanathj | absubram, amotoki and others from the horizon community did a great job of helping out | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: +1 | 18:33 |
| vishwanathj | in general, the OpenStack community rocks | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the client patch remains | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and i just noticed that there are two of them: | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have one #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158118/, and there is a new one #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166776/ | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am happy to abandon my patch, if the latter is better shape | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *is in | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | I dont think there is anything critical that showed up in the last week | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we are in the release candidate phase, so we should all be testing | 18:37 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: you seemed to have made progress with #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147396/ | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: has a question | 18:38 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, yes. I will update the launchpad description about this patch. | 18:39 |
| vishwanathj | yushiro, Steps to reproduce from either the Horizon or CLI would be appreciated | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: thanks | 18:40 |
| yushiro | vishwanathj, I understood. thank you | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other bugs to discuss today? | 18:40 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, I found the bug about FWaaS today. | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: ah ok, did you file it? | 18:41 |
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| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, sorry, I have not written the bug-report yet. | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: ok, so what did you observe, we can discuss here | 18:42 |
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| yushiro | I found the bug about policy control for firewall-policy's "insert_rule" and "remove_rule" | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: okay | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: perhaps we will check the bug report when you post it on launchpad | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | also on the doc bug, i am still behind on that - #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1425658 | 18:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1425658 in openstack-api-site "FWaaS needs WADL doc to be available in the API reference" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sumit Naiksatam (snaiksat) | 18:45 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, Thank you. I'll post the launchpad. | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will work on this but if anyone wants to pick it up sooner, please let me know, and i will be happy to hand over | 18:45 |
| badveli | yes, we will check it when it is in the launchpad. | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: was your patch merged? | 18:46 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yes! | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: sweet! :-) | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: any chance you have the link handy? | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: sorry i know you had posted earlier | 18:46 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: And it is no longer marked as experimental | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: awesome! | 18:47 |
| pc_m | #link https://review.openstack.org/167609 | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: thanks | 18:47 |
| pc_m | sure, np | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we need to do something similar for fwaas | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we already have some content | 18:48 |
| pc_m | if you have stuff from the old netconn-api repo, you can cut/paste a bunch. | 18:48 |
| vishwanathj | SumitNaiksatam, When does this need to be done by? | 18:48 |
| vishwanathj | I maybe able to help starting next tuesday | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: i dont think there is a time set, but in my opinion this is ASAP | 18:49 |
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| vishwanathj | pc_m, what would be a good time estimate for FWaaS, since you have done it for VPNaaS, hence asking? | 18:50 |
| pc_m | vishwanathj: It took me a few hours over 3 days to make the changes. | 18:51 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwanathj: i will try to get to this, if not you can take over | 18:51 |
| pc_m | So figure 8-10 hours of effort, then time to get the review. | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: true | 18:52 |
| pc_m | It's pretty much a mechanical process. | 18:52 |
| pc_m | If you have stuff from the old repo, it goes quicker. | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: true | 18:53 |
| pc_m | If you have any questions, just ping me... I know the process now... | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: thanks much! | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Functional/Integration tests in the gate | 18:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i think SridarK mentioned that Nikolay was working on moving the FWaaS tempest tests to the neutron repo | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: you mentioned that there were some hurdles in the process? | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | with vpnaas? | 18:54 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Well, for VPNaaS we only have the API tests, which are still in Neutron. | 18:55 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Nikolay was working on a scenario test for VPN and that has hit all sorts of issues. | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: ah okay | 18:55 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Main thing is that functional tests in the *aaS repos, cannot use the imports from tempest. | 18:55 |
| pc_m | There is a tempest lib, but it is very limited in functionality. | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: but i thought you had a working functional test, no? | 18:56 |
| pc_m | Nikolay had leveraged on tempest imports and now has to modify to make direct calls to Neutron to create the needed resources. | 18:57 |
| pc_m | We have NEW functional tests that are upstreamed and working. | 18:57 |
| pc_m | However, even that needs to be revised. The tests today, spin up DevStack and then run the tests. | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yeah, i was referring to the ones like this: #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/blob/master/neutron_vpnaas/tests/functional/strongswan/test_strongswan_driver.py | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yeah, so they are more like integration tests? | 18:58 |
| pc_m | Goal is to instead, just use devstack to setup the environment and not actually stack. | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: by “environment” you mean the OS? | 18:59 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Actually, no. They need the environment, but don't need VMs running or anything. It's just how the functional tests were set up. | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | OS -> operating system | 18:59 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Database configured mostly. | 18:59 |
| pc_m | So, I'm working on modifying the functional job to be more like Neutron is (now) and only setup the environment and not stack. | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay | 19:00 |
| pc_m | Our existing functional tests will work with that. | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: so setup only the neutron DB | 19:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: why is the in memory DB not good for such a thing? | 19:00 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yeah, and some other little things (accounts, passwords, env vars). | 19:00 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Not sure, I think they have it set up for MySql and Postgres | 19:01 |
| pc_m | Bottom line is that the VPN functional tests today, spin up devstack, which is really heavy. Neutron is moving away from that and | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: ok | 19:02 |
| pc_m | using a new script to setup stuff. | 19:02 |
| pc_m | see neutron/tools/configure_for_func_testing.sh | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: i was trying to understand why MySQL DB is required, and in-memory is not enough (just like what we have UT) | 19:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: thanks for the pointer | 19:02 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Not really sure. | 19:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so this is obviously a critical activity for the FWaaS team | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | currently we have a gate job and hooks (which we might need to tweak per pc_m’s comments last week) | 19:03 |
| pc_m | They essentially install all the packages, setup Rabbit, rootwrap daemon, etc. | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we need to start adding functional tests as well | 19:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we can use the VPNaaS example for the format and the nature of the functional tests | 19:04 |
| pc_m | Yeah two pointers are... try to make the tests not depend on devstack actually running, and start thinking about adjusting the hook scripts to use the neutron mechanism. | 19:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: thanks for those | 19:05 |
| pc_m | Note: we got a lot of push back along the lines of making sure to do as much as possible in UTs. | 19:05 |
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| pc_m | We had some functional tests that we had to move to unit tests. | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: that is really interesting! | 19:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: i thought we were doing functional type testing in the UTs | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: and wanted to move away from that | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: but perhaps in this case it was the opposite | 19:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: for the benefit of the team, do you mind elaborating what constitutes as fucntional tests (based on your experience of what was expected in the context of vpnaas)? | 19:07 |
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| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Essentially, they (cores) are looking for us to do testing that doesn't require interaction with the system as UTs. | 19:08 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: You're right though that, in doing that many of the UTs we have are really high level an span across numerous things. | 19:09 |
| pc_m | Like exercising the API all the way down through. | 19:09 |
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| pc_m | So, in that respect, some of our UTs are acting like functional tests, even though they don't interact with other system components. | 19:10 |
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| pc_m | I think the idea is to have UTs check the low level feature, with no interactions with other components or the system, and have FTs for cases where multiple components interact, and/or interaction with the system is needed. | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: so in our case, a functional test would be: creating a firewall policy with rules, creating a firewall with that firewall, associating it with a router, and then checking that the iptables rules are actually applied? | 19:11 |
| * pc_m hoping it's not too confusing | 19:11 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: that would be my basic example of a functional test in the FWaaS context | 19:11 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yeah I think so, as seceral components are interacting. | 19:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the testing for the application of iptables rules will have to be done at the operating system level | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont think we need to test all combination of the rules | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but just that rules are actually applied | 19:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | this one test wil also add a lot of value | 19:13 |
| pc_m | For the case of FT doing UT like things, we had a VPN driver that was checking that the config file was generated correctly for OpenSwan. It was commented that we could do that in a UT and just check the file contents without checking that VPN is working with that config. | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any takers in the team for writing this test? ;-) | 19:13 |
| badveli | sumit we are saying the UT will be at iptables rules | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: sorry i dont understand that comment | 19:14 |
| badveli | thanks to pcm for the details, as per him the UT should be at the low level where no interactions with the system is needed | 19:15 |
| pc_m | badveli: or no interaction with multiple components. | 19:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: low level can interpreted in multiple ways | 19:16 |
| badveli | thanks pc_m, yes sumit | 19:16 |
| badveli | i am trying to check if we need to split our existing UT | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: i think what pc_m means by low level here is a small and independent unit for functionality | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: i would think its more important to add a functional test, then immediately rework the existing UTs | 19:17 |
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| badveli | fine sumit, thanks | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: or perhaps you are indicating that you want to “adpat” an existing UT to a functional test | 19:17 |
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| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Yeah. One of the things I was hearing was to try not to use the more "expensive" functional tests, if you can get away with a UT. | 19:17 |
| badveli | yes since some existing UT | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: which is a good way to move forward | 19:17 |
| badveli | will fall as canditates | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: true | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i guess this will be a case by case evaluation | 19:18 |
| badveli | yes | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | per pc_m’s comment we have to be mindful of what we are spinning up in the functional test | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | running the entire stack might be too heavy (our current job does that) | 19:19 |
| badveli | yes | 19:19 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Correct, and FW tests are like VPN and end up doing a whole stack. | 19:19 |
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| pc_m | We're trying to change VPN to be like Neutron has done, and only do the setup and not stack/ | 19:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | will be really nice if someone in the team can take one test case (I mentioned a candidate above) and tried to implement that | 19:19 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: FYI: Here's the link of my try to change the hook scripts: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168115/ | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | once we have one implemented functional test, i think it will make it easier for others to add as well | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: ah nice | 19:20 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: It fails on StrongSwan, something with rootwrap. I need to figure out why. | 19:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: okay, fortunately we dont have such depedencies | 19:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: iptables should always be present :-) | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, anything more on this topic? | 19:21 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: YEah the OpenSwan tests with normal rootwrap work, but the StrongSwan ones are failing. I'm not really familiar with that area, so need to ask around. | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: thanks for all the pointers | 19:22 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Sure. | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | did we miss anything for today | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ? | 19:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i believe the Neutron etherpad for the design summit has been posted | 19:22 |
| badveli | do we have some time to add the functional tests | 19:22 |
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| badveli | sumit will sync up with you afterwards | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: i believe they will accept functional tests | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: that would be great | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | even if they dont for the kilo cycle, i think liberty will open soon, so we should be able to merge one way or the other | 19:23 |
| yamahata | Will we create fwaas specific etherpad? | 19:24 |
| badveli | ok, thanks | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the design summit etherpad | 19:24 |
| yamahata | or use the neutron etherpad? | 19:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: hi, thanks for joining | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: good question | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: i dont know what the thinking is on this, but i havent heard that the *aas are getting separate sessions | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: hi there | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: do you know if we are doing separate etherpads for *aaS, i am guessing not | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am guessing we get session time as a part of the neutron sessions, and hence share the same etherpad | 19:27 |
| dougwig | SumitNaiksatam: my ears are burning! | 19:27 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Haven't heard anything. though this is the first time I've looked at the etherpad too :) | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: burning from what? | 19:27 |
| dougwig | you tell me, you said 'hi there', my client buzzed. :) | 19:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: ah | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: for the design summit do you know if *aaS will be part of the neutron summit agenda? | 19:28 |
| dougwig | i asked for one of the smaller worrking groups for an lbaas session to discuss v2 features, now that it's shipped. no idea if it'll get room. | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: ah okay | 19:28 |
| yamahata | Anyway If we have many fwaas items, we can split them at that time. | 19:28 |
| dougwig | we're all part of neutron, so certainly put your needs/wants in the etherpad. | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: i did not see any lbaas on the neutron etherpad so was wondering | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: yeah thats what i thought we were supposed to do | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | its already a long list though | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: thanks for the input | 19:29 |
| dougwig | i think fwaas currently has a slow for one of the big "fishbowl" sessions, iirc. | 19:29 |
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| dougwig | /slow/slot/ | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: oh, did not notice it in the etherpad | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: is it on the schedule? | 19:30 |
| pc_m | I see Openflow FW driver as lightning session. | 19:30 |
| pc_m | Don't see anything else. | 19:31 |
| dougwig | *loooks*. must've been an earlier etherpad. put something back in, if you've got topics. | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: i think that is different, that is for security groups if i am not mistaken | 19:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | dougwig: right | 19:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yamahata: hope that answers your question :-) | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay we are 2 mins over time | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else that we missed? | 19:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, thanks everyone! | 19:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 19:33 |
| vishwanathj | bye | 19:33 |
| yushiro | bye! | 19:33 |
| yamahata | thanks bye | 19:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:33 |
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| pc_m | bye | 19:33 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 1 19:33:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-04-01-18.30.html | 19:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-04-01-18.30.txt | 19:33 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 1 21:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| alaski | anyone around? | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| * tonyb is | 21:00 | |
| bauzas | \o | 21:00 |
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| alaski | sweet | 21:00 |
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| alaski | #topic Tempest testing | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest testing (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168294/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166396/ | 21:01 |
| alaski | it sounds like everything is mostly there, but jenkins is being grumpy atm | 21:01 |
| bauzas | yeah, I hitted the Jenkins dependency merge issue... | 21:01 |
| alaski | so we can't see test results | 21:01 |
| alaski | bauzas: are there any workarounds for that? | 21:02 |
| bauzas | alaski: none I've heard of | 21:02 |
| bauzas | only recheck | 21:02 |
| alaski | ok | 21:02 |
| melwitt | I also have this patch up for the object service transient failures https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168121/ after chatting with mtreinish in irc | 21:02 |
| alaski | melwitt: nice | 21:02 |
| * dansmith strolls in after getting disconnected from his proxy | 21:02 | |
| bauzas | alaski: so I will bug the other cores by tomorrow once Jenkins is happy | 21:03 |
| alaski | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168121/ | 21:03 |
| alaski | bauzas: sounds good. I did -1 a patch with a question | 21:03 |
| bauzas | alaski: orly ? | 21:03 |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169400/ | 21:04 |
| bauzas | oh, I see | 21:04 |
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| bauzas | well, I'll answer your questions | 21:04 |
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| alaski | cool | 21:04 |
| bauzas | about the context stuff, I was thinking it was overcomplicating what we needed | 21:05 |
| bauzas | but fair point for the tests | 21:05 |
| bauzas | (because the context has to be passed to the Response object) | 21:05 |
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| alaski | right | 21:05 |
| melwitt | but isn't he right that object.save() wouldn't work right with a None, None context? | 21:05 |
| melwitt | for example | 21:06 |
| bauzas | melwitt: well, the context is only passed if we need to backport the object | 21:06 |
| bauzas | erm | 21:06 |
| bauzas | I mean the context is only *needed if we have to bakcport the object | 21:06 |
| alaski | bauzas: it passes it to the obj_from_primitive() | 21:07 |
| bauzas | mmmm | 21:08 |
| alaski | it will work fine here because the object isn't saved later, but could cause confusion later | 21:08 |
| alaski | but we can debate it on the review | 21:08 |
| bauzas | yeah you are probably right on that point | 21:08 |
| melwitt | I'm thinking of a scenario of someone receiving the Response containing objects, and if they made a change and then did a save() | 21:08 |
| bauzas | that's not impacting, but confusing | 21:08 |
| alaski | melwitt: right. that would either fail, or potentially save with wrong project_id info | 21:09 |
| alaski | and/or user_id | 21:09 |
| bauzas | ok, I have homework then :) | 21:09 |
| alaski | anything else on our march towards green? | 21:09 |
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| alaski | thanks for all the work on this bauzas and melwitt | 21:10 |
| bauzas | np | 21:10 |
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| alaski | #topic Specs | 21:10 |
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| alaski | I started splitting up the scheduling spec | 21:10 |
| bauzas | \o/ | 21:10 |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141486/4 | 21:11 |
| tonyb | :) | 21:11 |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169901/ | 21:11 |
| bauzas | we had a question about AZs on the ML | 21:11 |
| bauzas | I gently pushed back the answer to that spec :) | 21:11 |
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| alaski | cool | 21:12 |
| alaski | what I have up right now addresses the simple case | 21:12 |
| alaski | but we do need to figure out azs/aggregates/whatever as well | 21:12 |
| alaski | I'll try to dig up the list of db tables we weren't sure about and perhaps we can walk through them one by one during the meetings | 21:13 |
| bauzas | sure thing | 21:13 |
| alaski | or on a spec | 21:13 |
| bauzas | perhaps going over the existing filters | 21:13 |
| tonyb | alaski: I'd saya in a meetign and then document that by linking to the IRC log. | 21:13 |
| bauzas | ie. server groups, AZs, aggs and instances | 21:13 |
| tonyb | it'll be higher bandwidth that way | 21:14 |
| alaski | bauzas: that could work too | 21:14 |
| alaski | tonyb: +1 | 21:14 |
| bauzas | alaski: for that point, I would love to see operators interest | 21:14 |
| bauzas | I could bug belmiro, I'm on the same TZ | 21:14 |
| alaski | #action alaski find the list of scheduler features to work into cells, or get a list of filters | 21:15 |
| alaski | bauzas: cool | 21:15 |
| tonyb | I'm sure if we asked Tim Bell he'd come along hes' kinda invested in the outcome :) | 21:15 |
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| bauzas | belmiro works with Tim :) | 21:15 |
| alaski | I can pull in VW and maybe a couple of others | 21:15 |
| tonyb | bauzas: Ahh okay my bad | 21:15 |
| bauzas | at CERN in Geneva, kinda 2h drive from my place :) | 21:15 |
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| bauzas | alaski: by thinking about it, aggs were not available for cells v1 right ? | 21:16 |
| alaski | besides scheduler things, what other specs are people expecting to see for L? | 21:16 |
| bauzas | alaski: about the action you took, I can help you for sure | 21:17 |
| alaski | bauzas: right, there was some work but it wasn't finished afaik | 21:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: ping me when you want to work on this, we could just do a quick review of what the scheduler is doing in terms of placement and overcommitment | 21:17 |
| alaski | bauzas: sounds good, thanks | 21:17 |
| alaski | any other specs we should discuss or think about proposing? | 21:18 |
| tonyb | alaski: Personally I think the scheduler is it. | 21:19 |
| tonyb | alaski: it's big enough that it's going to take most of L to get right | 21:19 |
| alaski | tonyb: fair point | 21:20 |
| alaski | I would love to see us able to boot an instance in L, and I think the scheduler is the big missing piece | 21:20 |
| tonyb | alaski: Clearly there will be testing etc but that's not spec work. | 21:21 |
| bauzas | tonyb: in particular as we're fast moving stuff in the vanilla scheduler too... | 21:21 |
| tonyb | alaski: +1 | 21:21 |
| tonyb | bauzas: Yeah, can we pay you to slow down :P | 21:21 |
| bauzas | my bribe rate is quite high | 21:21 |
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| tonyb | bauzas: phooey I was looking to get rid of the stray EUR I have after Paris ;P | 21:22 |
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| bauzas | anyway, I'm just thinking about how the ResourceTracker is working, and was thinking about scaling that out with cells | 21:22 |
| bauzas | I would say it's doable, but the claims stuff sounds a bit risky | 21:23 |
| bauzas | but let's leave the details up to the specs and POcs | 21:23 |
| melwitt | this might be a dumb question, but is the db stuff nailed down already, that means already specced and just needs implementation, and speccing scheduler in L? | 21:23 |
| bauzas | alaski: one last point, I should resume work on the RequestSpec object by early L1 | 21:24 |
| alaski | melwitt: not all of it | 21:24 |
| alaski | melwitt: the db is in place, but we'll be adding more to it | 21:24 |
| bauzas | yeah | 21:24 |
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| alaski | bauzas: okay. that'll tie into one of the specs that's up | 21:24 |
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| bauzas | alaski: yeah, I thought you would be interested in knowing the status when I looked at your spec series :) | 21:25 |
| alaski | melwitt: and what's going to get added isn't fully specced yet | 21:25 |
| melwitt | alaski: okay, thanks. that helps me get a picture of how the road looks | 21:27 |
| alaski | I'm starting to think that I want to get a lot of lightweight specs up with some plans, but with the understanding that they're not all for L | 21:27 |
| alaski | lots of work to do | 21:28 |
| alaski | anything else on specs? | 21:28 |
| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 21:28 |
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| bauzas | well, nothing but the Vancouver summit maybe ? | 21:29 |
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| alaski | anything in particular? | 21:30 |
| bauzas | well, nothing really important, but I saw a point about fixing objectification for Cells V1 | 21:30 |
| alaski | oh? | 21:31 |
| alaski | I do have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79741/ up | 21:31 |
| bauzas | wrt to the pain in the ass that's messaging returning objects, I would tend to say yes, but is it worth doing it? | 21:31 |
| bauzas | alaski: well, I think that at least we need the Response patch fix to be landed at least | 21:32 |
| bauzas | because if not, any objects will be returned as dicts | 21:32 |
| alaski | yeah, given the pervasiveness of objects I think cells v1 should be updated to work with them | 21:32 |
| tonyb | alaski: +1 | 21:33 |
| alaski | we're hitting more and more pain by not supporting them | 21:33 |
| bauzas | okay, let's attempt this then | 21:33 |
| tonyb | the code is going to be around for a while so it still needs life support | 21:33 |
| bauzas | let's land the above series by Kilo and we'll target to objectify by L | 21:33 |
| bauzas | tonyb: well, the main problem is that objects are not cell-aware | 21:34 |
| tonyb | bauzas: which series are we tryign to lind in Kilo? | 21:34 |
| bauzas | tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169901/ | 21:34 |
| melwitt | yeah, I still have that object-ify patch where I hit the instance.save() cycle that I will work with again once the current series lands | 21:34 |
| bauzas | tonyb: so we hacked a bit for returning objects | 21:34 |
| alaski | I think you meant https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168294/3 :) | 21:35 |
| tonyb | bauzas: okay FWIW that's in my to review list for today | 21:35 |
| bauzas | alaski: eh, joker :) | 21:35 |
| bauzas | oops | 21:36 |
| bauzas | http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/francais-anglais/joker | 21:36 |
| bauzas | wildcard I mean | 21:36 |
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| alaski | heh, joker has meaning as well | 21:37 |
| alaski | okay, so there's still some cells v1 work ahead in L as well | 21:38 |
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| alaski | does anyone want to write up a spec for that, like a declaration of intent? | 21:38 |
| bauzas | alaski: right, but we should state that we only plan to work on reducing the tech debt | 21:38 |
| bauzas | alaski: fair point | 21:39 |
| bauzas | alaski: I don't honestly think it deserves a spec but more an intent document | 21:39 |
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| alaski | sure. it's similar to the objects work in that, but we've used specs for it | 21:39 |
| bauzas | oh ok | 21:40 |
| bauzas | yeah, that sounds a good thing to do | 21:40 |
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| tonyb | alaski: I'm happy to do it but it would be middle of my todo list, probably early May at this point | 21:41 |
| tonyb | (so after Kilo lands but before the summit) | 21:41 |
| tonyb | alaski: if that timeline works then you can # action me | 21:41 |
| bauzas | I would at least propose to amend the Cells V2 manifesto | 21:41 |
| bauzas | that should not be hard work | 21:42 |
| alaski | tonyb: okay. I'll assign you as I'm not sure of my timeline for it, but if I get to it I'll let you know | 21:42 |
| alaski | #action tonyb Propose a declaration of intent L spec for objects/cells | 21:43 |
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| alaski | bauzas: amend it with the objects work? | 21:43 |
| bauzas | alaski: amend by saying that we continue to work on Cells v1 meanwhile, but only by reducing the tech debt, not providing any new feature nor removing experimental state | 21:44 |
| alaski | bauzas: gotcha. I'm +1 on that | 21:45 |
| bauzas | ok, I can put a draft for it | 21:45 |
| alaski | cool | 21:45 |
| alaski | anything else? | 21:46 |
| alaski | we'll let bauzas get back to his show then | 21:46 |
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| alaski | thanks all! | 21:47 |
| bauzas | s/his/her | 21:47 |
| alaski | heh | 21:47 |
| bauzas | by 'her', meaning that I share TV | 21:47 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 21:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 1 21:47:30 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-04-01-21.00.html | 21:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-04-01-21.00.txt | 21:47 |
| alaski | bauzas: I figured | 21:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-04-01-21.00.log.html | 21:47 |
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