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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 15 12:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:00 |
| sambetts | o/ | 12:00 |
| tsufiev | hi! | 12:00 |
| mrunge | hey | 12:01 |
| amotoki | hey | 12:01 |
| doug-fish | hello | 12:01 |
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| mattfarina | hello | 12:02 |
| david-lyle | #topic General | 12:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:02 | |
| david-lyle | Yesterday we tagged RC1 | 12:02 |
| david-lyle | \o/ | 12:02 |
| mrunge | congrats! | 12:02 |
| doug-fish | hooray! | 12:03 |
| amotoki | |o| | 12:03 |
| mattfarina | yay | 12:03 |
| amotoki | ....\o/ | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | Thanks to everyone for your hard work getting to this point | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | We will have an RC2, but nothing critical is looming for it, but we need it to import final translations | 12:04 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: not to be a party pooper, but I'm really quite concerned about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1444150 | 12:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444150 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "New Launch Instance dialog is mostly untranslatable" [Undecided,New] | 12:04 |
| doug-fish | I was hope that somebody else would tell me it all works fine | 12:04 |
| doug-fish | but that hasn't happened yet. | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | I also have two low risk, high gain bugs that we can cherry pick the fixes to it https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=kilo-rc-potential | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: looking | 12:05 |
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| amotoki | doug-fish: Does it introduce new strings? | 12:06 |
| doug-fish | I can't say why it's failing - the code looks right | 12:06 |
| doug-fish | yeah, lots | 12:06 |
| doug-fish | and almost none of them are in the po files I generate | 12:07 |
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| mrunge | I had another bug for kilo-rc-potential: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1444421 | 12:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444421 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Launch instance fails with nova network" [Undecided,New] | 12:07 |
| amotoki | I think it is better to avoid introduce new strings at this stage. the dialog is regarded as experimental in this reelase | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | but "Availability Zone" must be translated already | 12:07 |
| amotoki | so we don't need to tackle it in this release. | 12:07 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: seems its not in the right file to be found - not in djangojs.po maybe. | 12:07 |
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| doug-fish | I thought this was our default option for launch instance now | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: no | 12:08 |
| doug-fish | ah ok | 12:08 |
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| david-lyle | I chose to leave it as experimental | 12:08 |
| doug-fish | If it's experimental I feel much better about it. | 12:08 |
| doug-fish | david-lyle: nice choice! | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | a lot of that has to do with the fact of how late it landed and how little real world testing it has | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | we can't just dump that in operators' laps | 12:09 |
| mattfarina | doug-fish it's unknown why the js translations aren't working? are they just not working for launch instance or all js? | 12:09 |
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| doug-fish | agreed. Is there a setting to enable/disable it? | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | and hope for the best | 12:09 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: yes and it's disabled by default | 12:09 |
| doug-fish | mattfarina: I know some js is working (like network topology) and some isn't (like launch instance) | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | the translation mechanism is the same as other JS files, so not sure what would be failing, but the way the JS is forced to use those translated strings is horrible | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | and fixing that is one of the top priorities in Liberty | 12:11 |
| doug-fish | yes, that sounds good to me. | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I tagged yours as such | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | that shouldn't be happending | 12:11 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, thanks, I did as well... | 12:11 |
| mrunge | no idea, how launchpad will handle that | 12:12 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: looks right | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | I assigned myself | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | will look today | 12:13 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, strange thing is, I remember it worked | 12:13 |
| mrunge | not sure, what changed there | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | I wouldn't have thought a lot | 12:14 |
| mrunge | yes, same here. | 12:14 |
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| david-lyle | So as your doing your testing, if you come across a bug you think may be critical to the release, please either tag it as kilo-rc-potential, or ping me | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | We have a couple weeks left to fix these problems | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | With RC1 cut, master is now open for liberty | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | so many of the items that just missed Kilo will start landing | 12:16 |
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| david-lyle | I have not prioritized items for L-1 | 12:16 |
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| david-lyle | if they are assigned it's either self-assigned or carry-over | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | today or tomorrow I will open up a specs repo for Horizon | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | and we'll move the specifications to that, so we have a better voting record than launchpad | 12:17 |
| mrunge | awesome! | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | I email the dev list when I have that set up | 12:18 |
| tsufiev | great news! | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | when we move to using that, self-assigning of blueprints to milestones will be disabled in launchpad | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | the Horizon Drivers will be the only ones that can set that | 12:19 |
| david-lyle | since the spec will be the notification mechanism | 12:19 |
| david-lyle | It will reduce a lot of the milestone planning noise and maintenance that I have to do | 12:20 |
| david-lyle | we will still have trivial feature adds that won't require a full spec | 12:20 |
| david-lyle | do we want to handle that with a trivial spec, or just a blueprint? | 12:20 |
| doug-fish | i'd suggest trivial spec | 12:21 |
| doug-fish | otherwise people will just declare their blueprint trival and bypass that process | 12:21 |
| mrunge | +1 doug-fish | 12:21 |
| doug-fish | I know that's what I'll do! | 12:21 |
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| david-lyle | that would be more consistent | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | ok, we can handle both in the specs repo | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | For the summit, I believe we have 3 fishbowl sessions, 7 working sessions and 2 half-day meetup sessions (like friday last time) | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-liberty-summit is for topic suggestions | 12:24 |
| david-lyle | we'll need to start voting that down in the next couple of weeks | 12:24 |
| david-lyle | I also want to point out #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Planning | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | if you are interested in cross-project topics or other services | 12:25 |
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| david-lyle | I think that's all I had for general items | 12:26 |
| david-lyle | any questions? | 12:26 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, are we still waiting here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163028/ for new version of openstack_auth? | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | amotoki, has indicated final translations are targeted for April 23 | 12:27 |
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| david-lyle | tsufiev: I release 1.2.0 a couple of days ago | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | we now need to move g-r to require >= 1.2.0 before we can merge that change | 12:28 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, ah, got it, thanks | 12:29 |
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| david-lyle | 1.2.0 brought Django 1.7 support which was needed for the release of Kilo | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | but did not require moving the minimum version of d-o-a | 12:29 |
| mrunge | I have a tiny patch currently not passing tests for django-1.8 :D | 12:29 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: Django 1.8 support needs to be a K-1 item | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | no more waiting around on our parts | 12:30 |
| mrunge | l-1 item? | 12:30 |
| mrunge | but yes! | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | err, L-1 | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | where am I? | 12:30 |
| mrunge | since diffs are quite small, we even might be able to backport that | 12:31 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: sure | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | and Django will probably release again before we ship Liberty and ruin everything :P | 12:32 |
| doug-fish | I think 1.8 is a LTS release | 12:32 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, 1.8 was released a few days ago | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: yes it is | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I know | 12:32 |
| mrunge | and yes, it's a lts release | 12:32 |
| doug-fish | we can stay on it forever! | 12:32 |
| doug-fish | (almost) | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | but seems to be a 6 month cadence now | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | we can also look at dropping 1.4 support once we have 1.8 support | 12:33 |
| david-lyle | Something I should not about the 1.2.0 d-o-a release, it no longer supports python 2.6 | 12:33 |
| david-lyle | as Django 1.7 does not support 2.6 | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 12:34 |
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| david-lyle | Other high priority items are plugin strategy | 12:35 |
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| david-lyle | now that the release pressure has subsided we need to consider plugins from two perspectives, new items in OpenStack and some items already in Horizon | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | Speaking of plugins... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128133/ - still not merged as part of Kilo -> plugins are not being added to the proper PanelGroup | 12:37 |
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| david-lyle | that has RC potential | 12:38 |
| tsufiev | okay, just had to make sure, nobody forgets about it :) | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | I tagged it | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | I need to look at that one more closely | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: I see very few patches on tuskar-ui, do you know if that's still a point of interest | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | and does it need a release for kilo? | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | asking you with your red hat on | 12:41 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, I must admit, I don't know | 12:41 |
| mrunge | akrivoka, can you comment? | 12:41 |
| akrivoka | david-lyle: it is definitely still of interest | 12:42 |
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| david-lyle | ok, is it ready to release? | 12:42 |
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| david-lyle | generally at this time of the cycle someone asks me to release it | 12:43 |
| akrivoka | david-lyle: let me double check and get back to you soon | 12:43 |
| david-lyle | akrivoka: thanks! | 12:43 |
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| akrivoka | david-lyle: thank you! | 12:43 |
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| david-lyle | anyone have another item for today? | 12:47 |
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| david-lyle | I will be posting release notes soon to the wiki page for the release | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | I'm contemplating making the command decision not to merge and rst version in the horizon tree this time | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | i looked and no other service seems to do that | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | and I missed the release cut-off | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | and issues with that | 12:49 |
| doug-fish | I don't quite follow what you are not going to do ... | 12:50 |
| david-lyle | s/and/any/ | 12:50 |
| mrunge | I found release notes useful in the past | 12:50 |
| david-lyle | typically release notes for say Kilo are posted to an openstack wiki page and in the source tree | 12:50 |
| mrunge | and I must admit, I never looked at them in the wiki | 12:50 |
| akrivoka | david-lyle: we have one patch we need to land in tuskar-ui before we're ready to release | 12:51 |
| akrivoka | david-lyle: will let you know when we're ready | 12:51 |
| mrunge | ... try to find something in the wiki, that is awful | 12:51 |
| david-lyle | on the wiki they are combined with all the other services | 12:51 |
| david-lyle | akrivoka: thank you, once that's merged, I can release | 12:51 |
| akrivoka | david-lyle: thanks! | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: maybe I can try to slip it into RC-2 | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | just wasn't sure anyone used them | 12:52 |
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| mrunge | david-lyle, I didn't even knew you were supposed to prepare two different formats | 12:53 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, if I'm the only one using them, I'd say: wiki is fine | 12:53 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: not a big deal | 12:53 |
| david-lyle | I'll see where I get with them in the next few days | 12:54 |
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| mrunge | cool | 12:54 |
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| david-lyle | I'll need reviews either way | 12:54 |
| david-lyle | I always miss items | 12:54 |
| mrunge | I just wanted to mention, release notes are really read by humans :D | 12:54 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: as long as someone finds them useful and I'm not just writing to myself, I'm ok with taking the effort | 12:56 |
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| david-lyle | I'll call it for today. Thanks everyone for your efforts on Kilo, please take the time to test the RC so we don't ship anything major that could have been addressed. | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | Have a great week! | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 12:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 12:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 15 12:58:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-04-15-12.00.html | 12:58 |
| mrunge | thank you david and same to you! | 12:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-04-15-12.00.txt | 12:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-04-15-12.00.log.html | 12:58 |
| tsufiev | thank you and bye! | 12:58 |
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| pc_m | hi | 18:30 |
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| yushiro | pc_m, Hi. good evening :-) | 18:30 |
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| pc_m | yushiro: SridarK hi | 18:30 |
| SridarK | Hi All FWaaS folks | 18:31 |
| slaweq | hello | 18:31 |
| iymht | hello | 18:31 |
| yushiro | SridarK, Hi ! | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yushiro SridarK vishwana_ slaweq iymht: hi | 18:31 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:31 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, hi | 18:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 15 18:31:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:31 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:31 |
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| badveli | hello all | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: hi | 18:32 |
| badveli | hello sumit and all | 18:32 |
| vishwana_ | hi all | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont see anything critical pop up | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we still have the high priority doc bug | 18:32 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes i too feel the same | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: okay | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I bugs we need to discuss today? | 18:33 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: sorry i was out on PTO - will resume work on the doc bug | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: no worries, i could not post a follow up patch either after where i left off | 18:33 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: no worries - i will work thru this | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: you had posted a bug fix, +A’ed that today | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: thanks | 18:34 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147396/, Thank you so much for reviewing! | 18:34 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: thanks for posting: #link https://review.openstack.org/171637 | 18:35 |
| pc_m | sure | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think #link https://review.openstack.org/169239 is also ready to be merged | 18:35 |
| SridarK | pc_m: this is for L ? | 18:35 |
| pc_m | 147396 is for L | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: yeah, i think now we are alaready in L | 18:36 |
| pc_m | Just need another core | 18:36 |
| SridarK | ok cool | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if there is a critical fix, it will have to be marked rc-potential and cherry-picked | 18:36 |
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| Swami | hi | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Swami: hi | 18:37 |
| vishwana_ | SumitNaiksatam, looks like mestery cherrypicked https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173902/ | 18:37 |
| mestery | vishwana_: ack | 18:37 |
| vishwana_ | mestery, thanks | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: thanks | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am wondering why its breaking python-27 | 18:38 |
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| vishwana_ | i need to investigate that later this afternoon | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwana_: i think it probably needs a rebased | 18:38 |
| vishwana_ | SumitNaiksatam, I will try that, thanks for the suggestion | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some of the protoocl constants were removed from a particular module in Neutron | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | they were in two places before | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so any part of the code that was referring to neutron/plugins/common/constants.py and had those protocol names will break | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwana_: i believe your patch was merged in L prior to that change | 18:40 |
| vishwana_ | yes | 18:40 |
| vishwana_ | so you think rebase would fix? | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | fyi - #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas/commit/0f5852efb8ceaed94504075cb6b0fdb16c2b3b76 | 18:41 |
| vishwana_ | I do not see the rebase button | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is the relevant commit | 18:41 |
| vishwana_ | thanks | 18:42 |
| vishwana_ | I remember reviewing that patch set | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | it seems that the issue is with the | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | proposed/kilo branch for neutron-fwaas referring to neutron liberty | 18:43 |
| vishwana_ | I see AttributeError: module object has not attribute 'TCP', SumitNaiksatam, you are probably right | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that commit went into liberty | 18:44 |
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| vishwana_ | SumitNaiksatam, what should I be doing? | 18:44 |
| vishwana_ | would appreciate any guidance or next steps | 18:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am trying to think why the proposed/kilo branch would break on a change that went into neutron for liberty | 18:45 |
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| vishwana_ | SumitNaiksatam, maybe mestery or other neutron cores would have a better explanation for this? | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think the problem might be that “proposed/kilo” is still pointing to neutron master: | 18:46 |
| vishwana_ | ok | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas/blob/proposed/kilo/requirements.txt#L22 | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | whereas it should be pointing to kilo candidate | 18:47 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Hmm. Wonder if that is going to be an issue for all *aaS | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: yes | 18:48 |
| pc_m | mestery: ^^^ | 18:48 |
| mestery | I think this has to do with pinning the version in there, marun and I have talked about this before. | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: yeah | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | currently its pointing to master | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that is the requirements.txt for all *aas kilo proposed branches is pointing to neutron master | 18:49 |
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| mestery | I think we should pin those to point to kilo, pc_m, want to propose 3 patches, one for each service repo? | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: yes we need to pin to kilo | 18:49 |
| pc_m | mestery: Yeah, I can. Do you know the syntax to specify the branch name in requirements file entry? | 18:50 |
| iben_ | mestery: is the telco meeting here soon? | 18:51 |
| mestery | iben_: No idea :) | 18:51 |
| vishwana_ | SumitNaiksatam, mestery, pc_m, thanks | 18:51 |
| vishwana_ | pc_m, let me know if there is any way that I can help out | 18:51 |
| iben_ | are you guys in a meeting now? Sorry if so… didn’t mean to intrude | 18:52 |
| pc_m | vishwana_: Sure. We just need to figure out the syntax. | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: you can go like this: git+https://github.com/openstack/neutron.git@<branch-name>#egg=neutron | 18:52 |
| pc_m | mestery: Do you know the syntax to specify the branch? | 18:52 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks | 18:53 |
| mestery | pc_m: yes what SumitNaiksatam said :) | 18:53 |
| pc_m | Also, what branch do we commit to, exactly? | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: proposed/kilo | 18:53 |
| iben_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TelcoWorkingGroup#Meetings | 18:54 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | iben_: sorry did not get the context of that post | 18:54 |
| pc_m | iben_: Its the FWaaS meeting right now. | 18:54 |
| SridarK | iben_: i think u are in the wrong channel | 18:54 |
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| pc_m | SridarK: yup. meeting-alt | 18:55 |
| iben_ | keep calm and carry on - my bad - have a nice day! | 18:55 |
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| iben_ | i found it... | 18:55 |
| SridarK | i guess u should be in openstack-meeting-alt | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | iben_: np :-) | 18:55 |
| iben_ | iben was here! | 18:55 |
| SridarK | :-) | 18:55 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i dont think we have any other patches posted to proposed/kilo | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other bugs anyone wants to discuss (or is blocked on)? | 18:56 |
| vishwana_ | badveli, is the VArmour firewall code using process_router() method? | 18:56 |
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| vishwana_ | if yes, you are impacted otherwise you are good | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwana_: good point | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but the UTs are not breaking yet (assuming the code path is being tested) | 18:57 |
| yushiro | to all, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171923/, is ready to review :) | 18:57 |
| badveli | yes on the other day i am investigating it | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yushiro: thanks for catching this, nice work! | 18:57 |
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| vishwana_ | SumitNaiksatam, let me know when pc_m and I can bring up about having FirewallService object handling event registrations in liberty? Thanks | 18:58 |
| vishwana_ | yushiro, is the issue reproducible only through REST API? | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwana_: sure, good segue to the next topic | 18:59 |
| SridarK | vishwana_: something pc_m & i discussed - we can look into it | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Liberty Features | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | vishwana_: pc_m: go ahead | 18:59 |
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| SridarK | vishwana_: which events are u interested in ? | 19:00 |
| vishwana_ | SridarK, the router create and update event is what fixed the vyatta broken feature | 19:00 |
| yushiro | vishwana_, you mean about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147396/ ? If so, Yes. | 19:01 |
| SridarK | i guess the context is this is needed by vyatta and can we have this common across all implementations ? | 19:01 |
| vishwana_ | yushiro, thanks, SridarK, wanted to know if it made sense for other vendors as well .... | 19:01 |
| SridarK | vishwana_: for router create - for the ref impl that is specified on the plugin | 19:01 |
| SridarK | vishwana_: i think for u too correct ? | 19:02 |
| vishwana_ | SridarK, yes because we use reference plugin and do not have our own plugin | 19:02 |
| SridarK | vishwana_: but u want to know about router create ? | 19:02 |
| SridarK | vishwana_: with the ref plugin that will be specified on the API | 19:03 |
| SridarK | and on the update API as well | 19:03 |
| vishwana_ | SridarK, to be very specific, Vyatta agent is interested in the events.AFTER_CREATE and events.AFTER_UPDATE | 19:03 |
| vishwana_ | for resources.ROUTER | 19:04 |
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| SridarK | vishwana_: ok - lets discuss this more and get back here perhaps ? | 19:04 |
| vishwana_ | SridarK, pc_m had suggestions of doing the event registration in the common firewallService class....pc_m, can you please share your thoughts | 19:04 |
| pc_m | vishwana_: sure | 19:05 |
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| vishwana_ | SridarK, fine by me...perhaps pc_m can provide a summary and we can hash it out later | 19:05 |
| pc_m | For VPN, the reference "service" object registers for all the events desired. Then, when those events occur, it calls methods in the service object, which calls the device drivers for some actions. | 19:06 |
| SridarK | vishwana_: ok sounds good - so we can do a quick round of topics of interest before we run out of time | 19:06 |
| pc_m | For FW, the same could be done. Vendors that want to take actions, can provide a method that the service method could call. | 19:06 |
| SridarK | pc_m: and the device drivers may or may not provide a method | 19:06 |
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| pc_m | Reference and other vendors can skip the method, and then there would be a NOP. | 19:07 |
| SridarK | pc_m: ys | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: vishwana_ SridarK: i think supporting the super set of events (consumed by the drivers) is probably a good idea | 19:07 |
| SridarK | ok lets do some discussion offline perhaps and report back in the next mtg ? | 19:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | good idea because there is consistency | 19:07 |
| pc_m | SumitNaiksatam: yes. | 19:07 |
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| vishwana_ | SumitNaiksatam, pc_m, SridarK, should this be tracked via a bug? | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | vishwana_: i was just thinking about that | 19:08 |
| pc_m | yes, probably | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think if its a small enough change a bug might be find | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *fine | 19:08 |
| SridarK | perhaps as an enhancement ? | 19:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am guessing none of the drivers will have to be changed (except may be vyatta in this case) | 19:09 |
| SridarK | so is there interest in interface events as well ? | 19:09 |
| SridarK | pc_m: is that supported ? | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: good point, i am guessing some vendors will definitely be interested in those | 19:09 |
| vishwana_ | interface events could be needed as well | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ideally the rules should be applied at interface granularity | 19:09 |
| pc_m | Right now I think there are router events in the L3 agent. | 19:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok lets circle back on this | 19:10 |
| SridarK | so my confusion here is that i can see the need for interface events | 19:10 |
| SridarK | but router events - need more discussion | 19:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: vishwana_: you wanted to bring up support for zones? | 19:10 |
| pc_m | It's easy to add more notifications in the L3 agent. | 19:10 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes lets come back on ths | 19:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pc_m: agreed | 19:10 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes Zones is something we want to bring up | 19:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: please go ahead | 19:10 |
| SridarK | I think this is something we have had on the table for some time | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: true, right from the inception of FWaaS | 19:11 |
| SridarK | and it is a fairly common characteristic of FW | 19:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i dont think anyone can disagree on that :-) | 19:11 |
| SridarK | one of the things holding it back was being more specific on insertion | 19:11 |
| badveli | sridark, currently we were fine with the router creation what events we would be adding | 19:11 |
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| SridarK | and now this seems a fairly natural thing to take on next | 19:12 |
| vishwana_ | +1 | 19:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: +1 | 19:12 |
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| SridarK | ok assuming we are good on moving forward with this | 19:13 |
| SridarK | i also want to bring up | 19:13 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171340/ | 19:13 |
| SridarK | from Slawek | 19:13 |
| SridarK | i think this may be something good to look at as wel | 19:13 |
| SridarK | as a simpler model with direction on rules | 19:13 |
| slaweq | SridarK: I just want to ask You about review of it :) | 19:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: ah thanks for joining! | 19:14 |
| SridarK | slaweq: ok good u are here | 19:14 |
| SridarK | pls go ahead | 19:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: yes, please go ahead | 19:14 |
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| slaweq | so I propose to add simple "direction" parameter to rules in firewall | 19:14 |
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| slaweq | to apply rules for example only for ingress chain in L3 plugin iptables | 19:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: that’s a nice simple of way of stating it :-) | 19:15 |
| yushiro | slaweq, SridarK , I see. I will read your specs :) | 19:15 |
| slaweq | :) | 19:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: what is the proposed default? | 19:16 |
| SridarK | slaweq: i think i have stated my thoughts in the review - in summary there is some overlap with zones - but this is a simpler model | 19:16 |
| slaweq | SumitNaiksatam: default is bidirectiona as it is default now | 19:16 |
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| SridarK | and also not all vendors may support zones so this gives some flexibility from the vendor perspective also | 19:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: good, so not specifying the direction would not change the current behavior (or API)? | 19:16 |
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| slaweq | SumitNaiksatam: should be like that IMHO | 19:17 |
| slaweq | to have compatibility with existing rules | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i agree, perhaps support for zones can make use of this internally? (or you think it will be completely independent) | 19:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: nice! | 19:17 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: slaweq: yes so this makes it easy for adoption | 19:17 |
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| slaweq | so that's why I propose Null value as default but some of You asked why not 'bidirectional' | 19:17 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: on the zones overlap there may some differences as there we specify the ingress and egress points | 19:18 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: okay | 19:18 |
| SridarK | slaweq: bidirectional is todays behavior so that is good correct ? | 19:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: yeah, although “bidirectional” could be set by default as well | 19:18 |
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| slaweq | yes, AFAIK today rule is apply in both directions always | 19:19 |
| badveli | Sumit, the bidirectional should be default | 19:19 |
| slaweq | SumitNaiksatam: ok, I have to change that in specs | 19:19 |
| slaweq | I will do it today | 19:19 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: so we will work thru this to see that we are not causing any confusion - i think it is fine - i just want to play this thru a bit more to be sure | 19:19 |
| SridarK | slaweq: will u be at vancouver ? | 19:20 |
| slaweq | SridarK: unfortunately not | 19:20 |
| vishwana_ | SridarK, this is not going to impact the zone support, right? | 19:20 |
| SridarK | slaweq: ok :-( | 19:20 |
| SridarK | vishwana_: yes that is correct | 19:20 |
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| SridarK | vishwana_: we should keep this separate | 19:20 |
| vishwana_ | ok, thanks | 19:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay we have 9 minutes | 19:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | what other features do people have in mind? | 19:22 |
| badveli | on the functional tests | 19:22 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: u had mentioned impacts with flavors | 19:22 |
| SridarK | earlier | 19:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: yes, once that lands in neutron, we will need to support that | 19:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: so we will need someone to volunteer for that work | 19:23 |
| badveli | to test the traffic as i had mentioned on the other day we can use pinger class | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in the past gary (varmour) had done the service type support | 19:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: okay | 19:23 |
| SridarK | SumitNaiksatam: yes agreed | 19:23 |
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| badveli | that internally use name space for exec the ping | 19:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: we are discussing possible new features for Liberty | 19:24 |
| badveli | we can use the similar mechanism of name space and test traffic | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: i think you are bringing up functional testing | 19:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | badveli: thats a great thing to pursue in Liberty if you are signing up for that | 19:24 |
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| badveli | sorry we did not get to functional tests, so was updating | 19:25 |
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| badveli | yes updating on the functional tests, since we did not have agenda | 19:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if you have any features in mind for FWaaS please propose a spec to the neutron specs | 19:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | also, if its a longer discussion, add it as a topic to: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 19:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anything we missed today? | 19:26 |
| SridarK | perhaps if u are adding to the ether pad will be good to add it under the FWaaS topics | 19:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: good point! | 19:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | lbaas has created a new etherpad and pointed to that etherpad from teh neutron etherpad | 19:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we could also potentially do something similar | 19:27 |
| slaweq | can I ask You one more think about this rules direction specs? | 19:27 |
| slaweq | I wan't to ask about API and functional tests section in specs, should I write some such tests for such change? | 19:28 |
| slaweq | what should be tested in such tests? | 19:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: yes, you wil definitel need UTs | 19:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: you will also need to update the tempest API tests for FWaaS which have been now moved to neutron | 19:28 |
| slaweq | SumitNaiksatam: about unit tests it is clear for me | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: ideally we should also be adding “functional” tests | 19:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: however we currently dont have any functional tests | 19:29 |
| slaweq | ok, so API tests are in tempest, right? | 19:29 |
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| SridarK | slaweq: from the spec perspective - u will need to indicate the tests at a higher level | 19:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: i was just checking | 19:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | slaweq: lets take it to #openstack-fwaas | 19:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | since we are out of time | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks everyone! | 19:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 19:31 |
| vishwana_ | thanks...bye | 19:31 |
| slaweq | ok, thx | 19:31 |
| pc_m | bye | 19:31 |
| yushiro | SumitNaiksatam, thanks :-) | 19:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 15 19:32:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-04-15-18.31.html | 19:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-04-15-18.31.txt | 19:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-04-15-18.31.log.html | 19:32 |
| badveli | bye | 19:32 |
| SridarK | bye | 19:32 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 15 21:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cells' | 21:00 |
| alaski | anyone around to talk cells? | 21:00 |
| * bauzas waves | 21:00 | |
| bauzas | \o | 21:00 |
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| belmoreira | o/ | 21:00 |
| alaski | awesome | 21:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:00 |
| alaski | #topic Cells v1 Tempest testing | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cells v1 Tempest testing (Meeting topic: cells)" | 21:01 | |
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| alaski | so there's been good progress here | 21:01 |
| bauzas | well well well | 21:01 |
| alaski | down to 3/4 failures depending on the run | 21:01 |
| bauzas | but we're hitting Pareto law | 21:01 |
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| alaski | I want to make a suggestion, which is let's open a bug for each remaining failing test, and blacklist it | 21:02 |
| alaski | and then work towards fixing it | 21:02 |
| bauzas | agreed | 21:02 |
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| bauzas | because I took 6 hours for working on a bug without getting more than just it doesn't work | 21:03 |
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| alaski | I have been trying to work on that locally, but the ec2 tests are not happy with my env | 21:03 |
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| alaski | I have to run after this meeting, but I will tackle opening bugs and blacklisting in the morning if no one beats me to it | 21:04 |
| alaski | #action someone open bugs for remaining test failures and blacklist them in devstack | 21:05 |
| bauzas | alaski: yeah we need to greenify the job because if not, it would be a whack-a-mole | 21:05 |
| alaski | agreed | 21:05 |
| alaski | anything else on testing? | 21:05 |
| dansmith | +1 on the plan :) | 21:06 |
| bauzas | I saw you opening a change | 21:06 |
| bauzas | about a bug too | 21:06 |
| bauzas | alaski: ^ | 21:06 |
| alaski | dansmith: cool | 21:06 |
| alaski | bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173513/ ? | 21:06 |
| bauzas | indeed | 21:06 |
| bauzas | oh no | 21:06 |
| bauzas | sec | 21:06 |
| alaski | that's more a missing feature than a bug | 21:06 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173502/ | 21:07 |
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| alaski | oh, right | 21:07 |
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| bauzas | sounds like trivial | 21:07 |
| alaski | that's not related to a test failure. though I'm now thinking it should cause a failure so we're missing a test | 21:07 |
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| bauzas | yeah that's my question | 21:08 |
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| bauzas | do we need to add a functional test ? | 21:08 |
| alaski | we should | 21:08 |
| alaski | the failure is trying to snapshot a bfv instance | 21:08 |
| bauzas | it wasn't clear if the bug was fixing a blacklisted failure or something which was not already covered | 21:09 |
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| alaski | yeah, it may already be there and just be skipped for another reason | 21:09 |
| alaski | #action look into tempest test for snapshotting a bfv instance | 21:09 |
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| bauzas | okay, I don't want to block the patch for that reason, but I thought we should be looking at that | 21:10 |
| bauzas | cool | 21:10 |
| alaski | definitely | 21:10 |
| alaski | anything else? | 21:10 |
| * bauzas is a bit slow tonight | 21:10 | |
| alaski | #topic Specs | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs (Meeting topic: cells)" | 21:11 | |
| alaski | so same specs as before | 21:11 |
| alaski | I've been a bit behind on getting new ones written up | 21:11 |
| alaski | I've gotten some comments that make it clear that people have very different ideas on some of these things | 21:12 |
| alaski | I've tried to respond to everything now | 21:13 |
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| alaski | and I'll iterate the specs soon | 21:13 |
| belmoreira | I just add my comments | 21:13 |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141486/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136490/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169901/ | 21:13 |
| alaski | for the record | 21:13 |
| alaski | belmoreira: thanks | 21:14 |
| bauzas | alaski: do you plan to iterate soon, or should we continue discussing meanwhile in the spec ? | 21:14 |
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| alaski | bauzas: continue in the spec. I'm not planning anything drastically different yet | 21:15 |
| bauzas | okay | 21:15 |
| alaski | the scheduling one will likely change a lot, but not in unexpected ways I hope | 21:15 |
| bauzas | for the records, I'm working on providing a spec for a scaling-out sched | 21:15 |
| alaski | the other big one is how to represent an instance before it's in the instance db in a cell | 21:15 |
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| belmoreira | bauzas: great | 21:16 |
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| alaski | bauzas: I would be interested in your comments on the discussion between zz_johnthetubagu and I on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169901/ | 21:17 |
| alaski | as I think it relates to scaling out the scheduler | 21:17 |
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| bauzas | alaski: sure thing | 21:17 |
| bauzas | alaski: I just need time, so greenify the cells job would help me :) | 21:18 |
| alaski | bauzas: understood | 21:18 |
| alaski | it would help me too :) | 21:18 |
| bauzas | alaski: by saying "how to represent an instance before it's in the child db", you meant https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136490/ ? | 21:19 |
| alaski | dansmith: I know you're a busy person, but would love your input on the specs as well | 21:19 |
| alaski | there's no rush though | 21:19 |
| dansmith | okay, I fell underqualified to really comment on the scheduling one | 21:20 |
| alaski | bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169901/ | 21:20 |
| dansmith | but I'll try to make a point to hit them all in some form soon | 21:20 |
| alaski | dansmith: sure. I'm less concerned on that one as there will be a lot of eyes on it | 21:20 |
| bauzas | my biggest concern is how we can iterate over all the specs for Liberty while we're working on the sched too, but I guess all of that will be fixed by Vancouver end | 21:20 |
| bauzas | alaski: oh, that one | 21:21 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: well, I would like to see the RequestSpec object BP merged for L-1 or L-2 | 21:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173316/ as a reference | 21:21 |
| bauzas | alaski: because then, it would be nested to persisting it for the cells duty | 21:22 |
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| bauzas | and we know how we need to persist that spec :) | 21:22 |
| alaski | bauzas: okay. I'll match up what's in there versus what we'll need for the api and comment | 21:22 |
| bauzas | alaski: cool, that's an already approved spec | 21:23 |
| bauzas | alaski: so I expect a fast approval | 21:23 |
| bauzas | alaski: I should bummer zz_johnthetubagu | 21:23 |
| alaski | bauzas: okay, I'll look soon :) | 21:23 |
| bauzas | alaski: anyway, that's related, not dependent for the cells | 21:24 |
| alaski | bauzas: but even if it doesn't have everything we should be able to avoid duplicating that | 21:24 |
| bauzas | alaski: so it's a nice to have | 21:24 |
| bauzas | agreed | 21:24 |
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| alaski | any more on specs? | 21:24 |
| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 21:25 |
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| alaski | I don't have anything more to discuss :) | 21:26 |
| bauzas | crickets ? | 21:26 |
| alaski | yep, let's call it | 21:26 |
| alaski | thanks everyone! | 21:26 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 21:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 15 21:26:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cells/2015/cells.2015-04-15-21.00.html | 21:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cells/2015/cells.2015-04-15-21.00.txt | 21:26 |
| bauzas | cool ty | 21:26 |
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