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| devananda | o/ | 04:59 |
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| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 05:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 14 05:00:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 05:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 05:00 |
| mrda | o/ | 05:00 |
| devananda | hi folks! | 05:00 |
| pshige | o/ | 05:00 |
| rameshg87 | o/ | 05:00 |
| naohirot | o/ | 05:00 |
| ramineni | o/ | 05:00 |
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| devananda | I don't expect many of the US timezone folks to be here -- it's quite late and most folks have probably been working long hours on the release the last week | 05:01 |
| * mrda is thankful for everyone's hard work | 05:02 | |
| wanyen | o/ | 05:02 |
| devananda | It looks like the agenda page wasn't updated (I took a break the last few days and forgot to update it, too) | 05:02 |
| devananda | but anyway, here's the link | 05:02 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 05:02 |
| devananda | will give folks another few minutes to arrive ... | 05:02 |
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| devananda | #topic announcements | 05:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 05:04 | |
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| devananda | nearly all the announcements on the agenda are old ... because we tagged the Kilo RC a few hours ago :) | 05:04 |
| mrda | \o/ | 05:04 |
| rameshg87 | \o/ | 05:04 |
| devananda | #info Kilo RC tagged late today, Liberty specs and development are open now. | 05:05 |
| pshige | \o/ | 05:05 |
| devananda | it looks like some folks (JayF?) have organized an ironic-specs-core meeting Wednesday at 1500UTC | 05:05 |
| devananda | I believe there was an email from Jay about the spec process changes for Liberty as well, so if you plan to propose things, please see the email / stay tuned for updates | 05:06 |
| pshige | is the ironic-spec-core meeting for core members only? | 05:06 |
| devananda | nope | 05:06 |
| devananda | it's where spec core team is going to hash some things out, so we will need to stay on task, but others are welcome to be there | 05:07 |
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| pshige | ok | 05:07 |
| wanyen | will teh spec core meeting take place inthis meeting room? | 05:07 |
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| devananda | wanyen: good question. I don't think so -- I believe it'll happen in our usual chat channel, but I could be wrong | 05:08 |
| mrda | 12:30am for me, so I might not make many, even though I'm interested... | 05:09 |
| devananda | also worth noting, for Vancouver design summit | 05:10 |
| pshige | about an hour, right? | 05:10 |
| devananda | most projects, including ironic, have started capturing ideas for hteir sessions | 05:10 |
| devananda | #info summit planning for all projects is liked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Planning | 05:10 |
| devananda | *linked | 05:11 |
| devananda | that's it for announcements | 05:11 |
| devananda | i'm going to skip subteam status this week as we've been really focused on the RC | 05:11 |
| devananda | and there's really no other agenda right now ... so ... | 05:11 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 05:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 05:11 | |
| rameshg87 | devananda: i hope there may be another rc if required (if we fix enough bugs), right ? | 05:12 |
| devananda | rameshg87: if we have to, yes, but it's quite a process to do that | 05:12 |
| devananda | RC2...N is handled in mostly the same way as stable backports | 05:13 |
| devananda | that is, we have to land hte fix on master, then backport it to the proposed/kilo branch | 05:13 |
| rameshg87 | okay | 05:13 |
| mrda | ...but we'll also be strict and make no string changes at all, right? | 05:13 |
| mrda | just functional critical bugs? | 05:13 |
| devananda | mrda: right | 05:14 |
| devananda | i mean, not on master -- master is open for liberty now | 05:14 |
| mrda | cool (got asked this yesterday) | 05:14 |
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| devananda | but if there's a high / critical bug, it should be tagged with kilo-backport-potential, and the fix should be as narrow and minimal as possible | 05:14 |
| wanyen | devananda, we should continue doing more testing so more problems may get uncovered... | 05:15 |
| devananda | wanyen: ++ | 05:15 |
| mrda | ...better to catch them now, rather than let our users find them after release | 05:15 |
| devananda | we also need to begin writing release notes | 05:15 |
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| devananda | and documenting the upgrade path from juno to kilo | 05:16 |
| devananda | any questions on the process? or the summit? | 05:18 |
| wanyen | devananda, question for design summit- Will Ironic have session on last day (Friday)? Will it be in the morningor afternoon? | 05:19 |
| devananda | wanyen: yes, we will have a slot on the last day. I do not know for certain yet whether it will be morning / afternoon / whole day | 05:19 |
| wanyen | devananda, the reason I ask is for travelling planning | 05:20 |
| devananda | ah | 05:20 |
| devananda | let me check, i might have that info ... | 05:20 |
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| devananda | looks like we have the whole day | 05:22 |
| wanyen | devananda, ok | 05:22 |
| devananda | #info we will have a full day friday meetup at the vancouver summit | 05:23 |
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| devananda | anything else? if not, i'm happy to callthis a short meeting :) | 05:23 |
| wanyen | :) | 05:23 |
| mrda | :) | 05:24 |
| devananda | ok then :) | 05:24 |
| pshige | :) | 05:24 |
| mrda | Thanks devananda - now go to bed :) | 05:24 |
| wanyen | thanks | 05:24 |
| devananda | once again - many thanks to everyone for the work on Kilo! | 05:24 |
| devananda | hope to see all of you soon :) | 05:24 |
| pshige | thanks | 05:24 |
| devananda | g'night! | 05:25 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 05:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 14 05:25:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-04-14-05.00.html | 05:25 |
| pshige | devananda: good night | 05:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-04-14-05.00.txt | 05:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-04-14-05.00.log.html | 05:25 |
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| swamireddy2 | #startmeeting EC2_API | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 14 14:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is swamireddy2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ec2_api' | 14:00 |
| swamireddy2 | ping rushiagr | 14:00 |
| swamireddy2 | ping alevine | 14:00 |
| swamireddy2 | Hello | 14:01 |
| swamireddy2 | Some one joined for EC2 API meeting? | 14:01 |
| swamireddy2 | alevine rushiagr | 14:01 |
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| rushiagr | o/ | 14:02 |
| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: welcome | 14:03 |
| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: looks like alevine not into the meeting room.. | 14:03 |
| rushiagr | oh | 14:03 |
| rushiagr | so we'll finish off our update | 14:04 |
| rushiagr | updates* | 14:04 |
| swamireddy2 | will await for him...mean while you have something to discuss, please go ahead... | 14:04 |
| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: ec2api package and tempest testing... | 14:05 |
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| rushiagr | I was just wondering how the ec2-api project stack up against tempest tests, and also if they have their own tempest tests, which they're maintaining out-of-tree, in ec2-api | 14:06 |
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| rushiagr | but since alevine is not here, I'll figure out myself now | 14:07 |
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| rushiagr | there seems to be some functional tests in ec2-api project | 14:07 |
| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: you can send out an eamil on dev mailing list, alevine can reply | 14:08 |
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| rushiagr | yea, I'll do that. Or maybe I can personally mail him too if it's a small thing on which only he can help | 14:08 |
| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: yes...same as Nova ec2 functionality tests.. | 14:08 |
| rushiagr | oh, is it? are they exactly same? | 14:08 |
| swamireddy2 | either will work | 14:08 |
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| swamireddy2 | #action: rushiagr to check with ec2api tempest test configuration | 14:09 |
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| rushiagr | okay, I'll find out | 14:09 |
| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: yes, its looks same as Nova ec2 API functionality tests..(not seen code base), but from the patch review, this is my comment | 14:10 |
| rushiagr | okau | 14:10 |
| rushiagr | okay* | 14:10 |
| rushiagr | I'll find out more | 14:11 |
| rushiagr | I don't have anything else | 14:11 |
| swamireddy2 | we ned list out all Nova ec2 API currenly supported...I will take action items on this | 14:11 |
| swamireddy2 | #action: swamireddy2 - to list of currently supported Nova EC2 API | 14:11 |
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| swamireddy2 | and check if all those are supported in ec2api (ie standalone ec2api) project | 14:12 |
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| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: do you any items to discuss ?? | 14:13 |
| rushiagr | nope | 14:13 |
| swamireddy2 | rushiagr: okay...nothing from my side...we can call off this meeting | 14:14 |
| rushiagr | sure | 14:14 |
| swamireddy2 | Thanks for joining this meeting... | 14:14 |
| swamireddy2 | bye | 14:15 |
| swamireddy2 | #endmeeting | 14:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 14 14:15:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ec2_api/2015/ec2_api.2015-04-14-14.00.html | 14:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ec2_api/2015/ec2_api.2015-04-14-14.00.txt | 14:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ec2_api/2015/ec2_api.2015-04-14-14.00.log.html | 14:15 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all. | 17:00 |
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| thinrichs | Who's here for the Congress meeting? | 17:01 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 14 17:01:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 17:01 |
| jwy | howdy | 17:01 |
| thinrichs | jwy: just looking at the comments on your patch. | 17:02 |
| thinrichs | while we wait for others to join. | 17:02 |
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| thinrichs | jwy: I didn't see any major concerns from Alex. | 17:04 |
| thinrichs | jwy: but he didn't +1 it either. | 17:04 |
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| thinrichs | jwy: if you could go back and forth with him to see if there's anything stopping the +1, that'd be good. | 17:05 |
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| thinrichs | And you'll want to get those tests in place soon. | 17:06 |
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| thinrichs | We'll hold off actually doing the branch for a while til we get a good number of the bugs eliminated. | 17:07 |
| jwy | thinrichs: i'll check with Alex. will be writing those tests as my next task! | 17:07 |
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| thinrichs | But we'll need to actually branch and reopen master since there's some work being done for a demo for the summit. | 17:07 |
| jwy | thinrichs: which bugs? | 17:07 |
| thinrichs | And once we branch, all bug fixes will need to be ported to both branches. | 17:07 |
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| thinrichs | jwy: at this point we stop writing code and start hammering on testing Congress. | 17:08 |
| thinrichs | and fixing any bugs that crop up. | 17:08 |
| thinrichs | And synchronizing the docs. | 17:09 |
| thinrichs | Fire alarm in the building. Need to go. | 17:09 |
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| thinrichs | Carry on without me for (hopefully) a few minutes. | 17:09 |
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| thinrichs | Or maybe there'll be wifi where we're headed. | 17:09 |
| thinrichs | Testing.. | 17:11 |
| thinrichs | Seems I still have wifi. | 17:11 |
| thinrichs | But we may have lost the majority of people. | 17:12 |
| thinrichs | If you're still here for Congress, pipe up now! | 17:12 |
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| jwy | still here | 17:14 |
| thinrichs | jwy: want to give a status update then? | 17:15 |
| jwy | waiting for my policy rule creation patch to finish getting reviewed. also +1ed Rajdeep's implementation for the data source status table blueprint and waiting for someone else to review that | 17:16 |
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| thinrichs | Is the data-source-status table something that we should push into this release? | 17:16 |
| jwy | i think it's ready | 17:17 |
| jwy | it adds a table to the data sources page that shows the status of each data source | 17:17 |
| jwy | we may move that info later to a details page for each data source instead of all in one table | 17:17 |
| thinrichs | jwy: sounds useful. | 17:18 |
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| thinrichs | alexsyip: you took a look at jwy's policy rule creation patch, right? | 17:19 |
| alexsyip | yes | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | You had a couple of comments but didn't assign a score. Is it ready to go in? | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | Great. I'll push that in then. | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | I'll also take a look at Rajdeep's patch and push that in if it looks ready. | 17:20 |
| thinrichs | Are there any other patches we should consider pushing in today before the feature freeze? | 17:21 |
| alexsyip | Yes, she addressed my comments. | 17:21 |
| thinrichs | I gave jwy's a +2/+1. | 17:22 |
| thinrichs | I guess we could consider this patch: | 17:23 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169526/ | 17:23 |
| thinrichs | The main reason that's -1 is that there aren't tests. Testing that well could be difficult. | 17:24 |
| thinrichs | Without good testing, I'd be hesitant to publicize that feature belonging to the release. | 17:25 |
| alexsyip | I had some questions about the threading in that change. | 17:26 |
| alexsyip | I have to ask arosen what is going on with that. | 17:26 |
| thinrichs | OK. So unless I hear differently we'll delay that change to the next release. | 17:27 |
| thinrichs | Other than jwy's change and Rajdeep's change, we're now in feature freeze. | 17:27 |
| thinrichs | jwy's change will go in today, and Rajdeep's will likely go in today. | 17:27 |
| thinrichs | Now we're at the point where everyone should be running/testing/filing-bugs/debugging. | 17:28 |
| thinrichs | We also need to sync our docs to the current system. | 17:28 |
| thinrichs | And add docs for the new features. | 17:29 |
| thinrichs | Let's be in touch on the ML as we make progress on this front. | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | Please file bugs and email out about release-blockers. | 17:30 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else about feature freeze and the kilo release? | 17:30 |
| thinrichs | Sounds like not. | 17:32 |
| thinrichs | The other thing we need to do is a PTL election. | 17:32 |
| thinrichs | I'm the only candidate. | 17:32 |
| thinrichs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_April_2015#Timeline | 17:32 |
| thinrichs | Not sure if we technically need to run an election. | 17:33 |
| thinrichs | Last time we did this over IRC. | 17:34 |
| thinrichs | So let's just have a quick vote, and I'll look into whether we do anything else. | 17:34 |
| thinrichs | So just +1 if you want thinrichs as PTL. | 17:34 |
| thinrichs | +1 | 17:34 |
| jwy | +1 | 17:35 |
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| alexsyip | +1 | 17:35 |
| stevenldt | +1 | 17:35 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all. | 17:38 |
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| thinrichs | I'll send out email to see if there's anything more official that we need to do. | 17:38 |
| thinrichs | Last topic is the summit. | 17:39 |
| thinrichs | #topic summit | 17:39 |
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| thinrichs | We have a number of talks/sessions. | 17:39 |
| thinrichs | We have a Hands On Lab. | 17:39 |
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| thinrichs | We have a talk on (basically) Delegation in the context of NFV. | 17:40 |
| thinrichs | I'm told we'll have a big room to do a Congress overview for the general public. | 17:40 |
| alexsyip | I found an email about elections. | 17:41 |
| alexsyip | in my inbox | 17:41 |
| alexsyip | It says there are elections for nova and glance. | 17:41 |
| thinrichs | And we'll have another smaller room to do the usual design summit prioritization of blueprints. | 17:41 |
| alexsyip | I think that means we won’t have an election since there is just one candidate | 17:41 |
| thinrichs | alexsyip: great! | 17:42 |
| alexsyip | the email is titled: “[openstack-dev] PTL Voting is now open” | 17:42 |
| thinrichs | Seems my email filters aren't quite doing what I expect. Again. :) | 17:42 |
| thinrichs | Back to the summit... | 17:43 |
| thinrichs | The Congress overview is straightforward; I'll reuse old slides and maybe add some Congress CLI examples. | 17:43 |
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| thinrichs | For the prioritization of blueprints, we need to have blueprints ready. So everyone should think about what new features they think are most important for the next release and write up blueprints (and specs for larger features). | 17:44 |
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| thinrichs | If anyone has ideas about the Hands on lab, let us know. | 17:45 |
| thinrichs | Either now or via the ML. | 17:45 |
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| jwy | oh, Amey was interested in helping out with the HOL | 17:46 |
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| jwy | i'll ask him to ping you | 17:46 |
| thinrichs | The goal of the HOL is to teach people what Congress does and how to do it. | 17:46 |
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| thinrichs | jwy: sounds good. | 17:46 |
| thinrichs | For those of you who have just recently started using Congress, do you have any suggestions about what we should cover (or not cover)? | 17:47 |
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| thinrichs | stevenldt: any thoughts here? | 17:48 |
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| thinrichs | OK, well if anyone has any ideas, send them on the ML. | 17:49 |
| thinrichs | Anything else about the summit? | 17:49 |
| thinrichs | Let's open it up for discussion then. | 17:51 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 17:51 |
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| stevenldt | Basic of congress can be a good introduction to new people: how policy is created, rules, how data are pulled from other services | 17:51 |
| jwy | should we start putting together an etherpad for design summit topics? | 17:51 |
| thinrichs | jwy: sounds like a good idea. | 17:52 |
| thinrichs | jwy: done. | 17:53 |
| thinrichs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-liberty-design-session | 17:53 |
| thinrichs | Please go ahead and add ideas/features that you'd like to discuss at the session. | 17:53 |
| jwy | cool | 17:53 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: that sounds good | 17:55 |
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| thinrichs | I guess that's it for today then. | 17:55 |
| stevenldt | thinrichs: I need to follow up with you on the reactive enforcement. We can chat in #congress | 17:55 |
| thinrichs | stevenldt: sounds good. | 17:55 |
| thinrichs | Let's start hitting Congress hard so we can catch as many bugs as we can before it goes out the door! | 17:55 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 17:55 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 14 19:00:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| briancurtin | if you're around for the SDK meeting, say hi. there's nothing really formal on the docket, just getting back into it after mostly a week off | 19:01 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:01 |
| etoews | o/ | 19:02 |
| dtroyer | o// | 19:02 |
| * dtroyer not a genetic mutation, still unable to type | 19:02 | |
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| terrylhowe | fingers not fists | 19:03 |
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| briancurtin | so we were able to get the delete pushed through, and currently have get and create proxy implementations in there. im going to go back through the get comments this afternoon and tomorrow afternoon (flying out tomorrow morning) | 19:04 |
| etoews | if there's nothing formal, should we just work through the patch queue and see what needs to be done? | 19:04 |
| briancurtin | i guess one discussion i would actually like to have is what the create one should actually be doing | 19:05 |
| etoews | sgtm | 19:05 |
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| briancurtin | so i had originally started with something like create_server(self, value=None, **attrs). if you give it a value (an instance of Server), it uses that value as the base to make the request. if you also give it attrs, it sets them on the value. if you only provide attrs, it will create a Server, set the attrs, and send it on. (cont) | 19:07 |
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| briancurtin | there seemed to be a thought that it should only work with one or the other - you either pass in a resource populated with the props you want, or you pass in kwargs to represent those props - not both. instead the create would have those args mutually exclusive, and something like clone_server could work with both. i dont love that, but i also dont love some | 19:08 |
| briancurtin | of the awkwardness of create_server potentially having mutually exclusive args | 19:08 |
| briancurtin | (that's a longer version of what terry commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168448/2/openstack/compute/v2/_proxy.py | 19:09 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i just saw your comment on there. if we took the way from your last comment, what would be the way to create from a resource object? | 19:09 |
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| terrylhowe | well, if just_like_this_one was a server resource, it would clone | 19:10 |
| terrylhowe | server create proxy could have logic to remove the id maybe | 19:11 |
| terrylhowe | for convenience of the user | 19:11 |
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| briancurtin | i think that's what i originally had in mind | 19:12 |
| briancurtin | maybe i'll swing it back that direction and see how that works | 19:12 |
| terrylhowe | has any work been done to propogate the delete changes to other proxies? | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: not yet, that had been approved right around when i took off for montreal. i can throw that together within the next day | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | perhaps in a bit after this meeting depending on what's going on here | 19:13 |
| terrylhowe | k | 19:13 |
| * briancurtin is dancing back and forth between several sprints | 19:14 | |
| briancurtin | dtroyer: one thing i want to look more into is how SDK can provide you with a backend. what is the ideal output we could give you that you'd ingest in OSC? i seem to remember you wanted to be able to get the raw JSON without going through resource object creation and such | 19:15 |
| briancurtin | and i also seem to remember you had started to hack with something - is that still around anywhere that i could try and bridge the gap between there and where SDK is at now? | 19:16 |
| dtroyer | briancurtin: closer to decoded JSON, but basically that. Plus any 'fixes' like s/tenant/project/ etc. | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | The original proposal is still in gerrit, but the current implementation is what is in openstackclient.api | 19:17 |
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| briancurtin | dtroyer: cool, will take a look. i think i might have something. will probably get to it later in the week | 19:19 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164061/3/openstack/orchestration/v1/stack.py the name_attribute is set to point to that stack_name, so .name will still work -- i think it maybe makes sense to do it how it is in that review | 19:21 |
| terrylhowe | well, I normally think that the name of a resource will be resource.name | 19:22 |
| terrylhowe | it’ll work as it is, but from the ux view | 19:22 |
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| briancurtin | hmm, yeah | 19:23 |
| terrylhowe | etoews: ? | 19:23 |
| etoews | i'm just giving this another look... | 19:24 |
| etoews | it's been a while | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | the only other places we use name_attribute are for keypair "fingerprint" and floating ip's "floating_ip_address" -- i guess this could just go directly to being the name prop | 19:25 |
| etoews | hold on | 19:26 |
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| etoews | but note how above that i did `name_attribute = 'stack_name'` | 19:26 |
| etoews | so you still wind up using stack.name | 19:27 |
| briancurtin | and you additionally have stack.stack_name | 19:27 |
| etoews | do we want to hide that? | 19:28 |
| briancurtin | however, that's not unique to this - the other two examples i said also have it, so now i'm trying to wrap my head around it | 19:28 |
| etoews | i just looked at that too | 19:28 |
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| etoews | keypair.py and floating_ip.py both have it | 19:29 |
| etoews | it would be particularly weird to not have floating_ip_address in FloatingIP | 19:30 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, maybe it doesn’t matter because it may be that stack.name and stack.stack_name will both work | 19:31 |
| briancurtin | and it ends up being used by find, and i get why it's used there - that method is sort of in flux with the other API stuff we're doing, but that'll live somewhere if not where it is. so i guess we need it. having both isn't awesome, but it's effectively an alias we need to know about internally | 19:31 |
| briancurtin | so maybe this is all fine as it is in the review | 19:31 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, we do need some tests on the create method though | 19:31 |
| briancurtin | true | 19:32 |
| terrylhowe | hah, jamie is in there now | 19:33 |
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| etoews | i'm not 100% sure what you mean. can you point me to a good example of tests on the create method in another resource please? | 19:34 |
| briancurtin | yeah, good points - and we've gotten rid of those redundancies anywhere else | 19:34 |
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| etoews | i'm missing something. | 19:35 |
| etoews | jamie is where? | 19:35 |
| etoews | what redundancies? | 19:35 |
| briancurtin | etoews: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164061/ | 19:35 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: stack_ prefix on a few otehr things | 19:36 |
| etoews | ah | 19:36 |
| briancurtin | etoews: so s/stack_status/status and s/stack_status_reason/status_reason -- we've trimmed a few other things like that around other services. blanking on an example off the top of my head though | 19:36 |
| etoews | okay. but do we keep stack_name though? | 19:37 |
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| briancurtin | name = resource.prop("stack_name") is better in that it doesn't have the duplication. i gues i need to research the full reason of why we have name_attribute in case it's anything outside of the Resource.find | 19:38 |
| briancurtin | it doesn't seem like it, and it looks mostly like a convenience thing, although a convenience we don't totally need since you can just set name directly | 19:39 |
| briancurtin | it seems like it's there to make sure everything has a name, but everything can have a name if you just set a name | 19:39 |
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| briancurtin | it's like the opposite of id_attribute, which is set to name on the object_store stuff since they don't actually have the traditional ID values other things do | 19:40 |
| terrylhowe | https://github.com/stackforge/python-openstacksdk/blob/master/openstack/tests/unit/compute/v2/test_server_meta.py#L50 | 19:40 |
| terrylhowe | ^^ create test | 19:40 |
| etoews | thx terrylhowe | 19:42 |
| terrylhowe | I originally added name_attribute just for find, there wasn’t a name method I don’t think at the time | 19:42 |
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| etoews | name_attribute is used in a handful of methods in resource.py | 19:42 |
| etoews | the name methods, from_name, and find | 19:42 |
| terrylhowe | anyway, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170343/ are we ready? | 19:43 |
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| etoews | i am :) | 19:43 |
| briancurtin | from_name is probably going away, and we don't really need the name methods, and find sort of has to change. i know that's thinking further ahead, but i think name=prop('stack_name") is the way | 19:43 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe, etoews let me double check, i think i'm ready on it | 19:44 |
| terrylhowe | yeh agreed briancurtin on all that name stuff, it needs some attention as does find | 19:44 |
| etoews | just to confirm. this is the canonical place for our docs right? http://python-openstacksdk.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | yeah the name stuff was there to help the object_store proxy's implementation, but since we're not going that way, they won't be needed. i'll do that cleanup once we get further along in doing mass changes that touch those methods | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | and yes, functional is now +2'ed | 19:46 |
| etoews | cool. | 19:46 |
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| etoews | i'm all for these mass changes and stabilizing the internal api but where does that leave me for developing support for services right now? | 19:47 |
| etoews | the orchestration patch is a good example | 19:48 |
| etoews | seems like so much will be changing/shifting i'm not really sure if i should pursue the patch now or wait until the internal api stabilizes. | 19:48 |
| briancurtin | etoews: can you link the orch patch? | 19:49 |
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| etoews | the one we've been discussing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164061/ | 19:49 |
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| briancurtin | hah, thought you were referencing another one | 19:50 |
| terrylhowe | it’d be nice if that went in before a mass create change | 19:50 |
| briancurtin | etoews: i think you're fine to just go with it. especially on create that one is going to take some time in review | 19:50 |
| etoews | am i making sense or am i being overly cautious | 19:50 |
| etoews | alright. i'll just go for it. | 19:51 |
| terrylhowe | only the proxy part might change I think | 19:51 |
| briancurtin | yep, that'll be the only part affected | 19:52 |
| etoews | so now that we have 1 functional test. do we want to consider integration tests? | 19:54 |
| etoews | wait. maybe i shouldn't have used the word "integration". | 19:54 |
| briancurtin | yeah i need a different word in there | 19:55 |
| etoews | means different things to different people | 19:55 |
| etoews | so eventually we'll have a bunch of functional tests (and that's great) but they'll take a long time to run. | 19:55 |
| etoews | and may fail in weird ways because they're running against a live cloud | 19:56 |
| etoews | do we want to consider using something like betamax or vcr.py with requests? | 19:56 |
| briancurtin | i'm not familiar with those, but i know ian is | 19:57 |
| etoews | http://betamax.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 19:57 |
| terrylhowe | as long as the recorded responses are managable | 19:57 |
| etoews | that's where i got it (from ian) | 19:57 |
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| etoews | i caught his talk at pycon | 19:58 |
| etoews | something to think about | 19:58 |
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| etoews | i can see a future where running all functional tests could take longer than an hour | 19:58 |
| terrylhowe | the ruby guys were doing something similar and it got unmanagable because one change and everything would change | 19:58 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, good way to go for a gate especially | 19:59 |
| terrylhowe | run the real test less frequently | 19:59 |
| etoews | yep | 19:59 |
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| etoews | nightly against the public clouds and a devstack instance | 20:00 |
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| etoews | or something like that | 20:00 |
| etoews | food for thought | 20:00 |
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| briancurtin | will look into it and check out his video | 20:00 |
| etoews | i suppose i should have said sigmavirus24 ^ | 20:00 |
| briancurtin | and that's time. thanks everyone, good meeting | 20:00 |
| terrylhowe | cya | 20:01 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 14 20:01:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| etoews | thanks all | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2015/python_openstacksdk.2015-04-14-19.00.html | 20:01 |
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