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sambettso/ morning all09:07
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alaski#startmeeting nova_cells17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 22 17:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells'17:00
melwitto/17:00
alaskisweet, it's not just me :)17:01
melwitthehe17:01
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alaskibauzas: o/17:01
bauzaso/17:02
alaski#topic Tempest testing17:02
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alaskiso... things are green!17:02
melwitthooray17:02
bauzas\o/17:02
alaskiI'd like to get a few days of data before we decide if it should vote17:03
bauzas+117:03
alaskibut hopefully that's something we could do this week17:03
dansmitho/17:03
alaskiso, let's just keep an eye out17:03
alaskibut excellent work everyone17:03
dansmithyeah, awesome17:04
alaski#topic Specs17:04
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dansmithI reviewed some specs17:04
dansmithnot enough, but some17:04
dansmithhopefully enough to not be voted off the island17:04
alaskistill helps17:04
alaskinot yet17:04
dansmithwhew17:05
alaskithe feedback on the requestspec object one led me to open a few more17:05
bauzassounds like I have to work on it soon :=)17:05
alaskibefore that, I want to co-ordinate a bit17:06
bauzasalaski: feel free to review the already approved spec17:06
bauzasalaski: I perhaps missed some things17:06
bauzassure17:06
alaskiwell, I've been thinking that we sort of want to persist it in two places17:06
alaskipart of it in instance_extra, but then also in the api db17:07
bauzastechnically, there are possibly N instances for one RequestSpec17:07
alaskiright, which would be stored N times in the api db17:07
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bauzasin the instance_extra ? I'm not that sure17:07
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alaskiso here's my thinking17:08
bauzaswe already have some problems with all the instance FKs, maybe something denormalized would be good17:08
alaskiwe want to store it in the api db before we have an instance, but then when we have a cell and instance we want to store it in the cell with the instance17:08
* edleafe sneaks in late17:09
bauzasyup, just a mapping table sounds good to me, nope ?17:09
dansmithso,17:09
dansmithif this requestspec is an object,17:09
alaskibauzas: mapping table to the request_spec?17:09
dansmithit makes it easy to persist it in one place first, and then again elsewhere17:10
dansmithi.e. we serialize it into an api db holding place,17:10
bauzasdansmith: that's what I think17:10
bauzasdansmith: and we sync it17:10
dansmithand then when we create the N instances from it, we just serialize the thing to the instance_extra of each17:10
dansmithsync it?17:10
alaskidansmith: right, that's what I was thinking17:10
dansmithonce the instances are created, we delete the api holding place17:10
bauzas+117:10
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alaskiwe actually don't need the whole thing in instance_extra, just a few parts that aren't already a part of instance or instance_extra17:11
dansmithwell,17:11
dansmithmaybe17:11
dansmithmakes it easier if we have the whole thing17:11
alaskitrue17:11
dansmithbut if we can take a partial requestspec object, and fill in the gaps from the running instance17:11
alaskibecause I was about to say we'll need to hydrate from two forms17:11
dansmithfor things like a rebuild, then I guess that's okay17:11
dansmithalaski: yeah, we could do that, if we plan for it from the beginning17:12
alaskiI sketched out part of this in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176078/1 so you all can tell me how crazy I am there17:12
alaskibut we could also just persist it the same way in two places17:13
melwittis there any reason not to persist it same way? since that would be easier17:13
dansmithjust space17:13
alaskijust that it's redundant17:13
alaskiyeah17:13
melwittokay17:14
dansmithotherwise it's much easier to just save the thing in the new place17:14
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dansmithwe can also plan to just do the easy thing17:14
dansmithand then if it looks like it's really worth it,17:14
dansmithcome up with a way to slim it down and partially hydrate it from the instance later17:14
alaskithat works for me17:14
dansmithmore work, but the rule is optimize after it's working, so..17:14
alaskiso the second part is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176083/17:15
alaskinot much there, but basically should we take the instance out of the requestspec17:15
dansmithI think alaski is over his spec quota, who's with me? :)17:15
alaskidansmith: hah, I've not yet begun to spec17:15
melwitthaha17:15
edleafedansmith: +117:15
dansmithheh17:15
bauzassorry on the phone17:16
alaskinp17:16
alaskiif we are going to persist the requestspec before we have an instance, it's helpful if there's not an instance in the requestspec17:16
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bauzasack17:17
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dansmithaye17:17
alaskinot that having an instance obj there means we can't serialize and persist, but it's also confusing17:17
alaskiso my suggestion is to break that out into the pieces that the scheduler cares about17:17
dansmithwell,17:17
dansmithyou're saying this because of how requestspec currently works rightr?17:18
dansmithlike because it's a dict of an instance, that we create an instance from over and over?17:18
alaskiright17:18
dansmithor because the current requestspec object proposal has an instance field?17:18
alaskioh, that one17:18
alaskiwe shove an instance in there, but call it instance_properties17:19
bauzasyeah we can fix it17:19
alaskiwhat we need are just those properties17:19
alaskiand perhaps it would be better to enumerate them17:19
dansmithso, we just make requestspec.instance an @property17:20
dansmithand generate the instance if asked, but don't store it17:20
alaskiyeah, that works.  I still feel like we should split instance_properties, but ultimately it's not the issue17:21
bauzasprobably17:21
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dansmithwait,17:21
alaskiactually, we don't really need to generate an instance at any point17:21
dansmithby split instance_properties, you mean "not store shit in there that we don't need for scheduling" right?17:21
alaskiI don't think17:22
alaskidansmith: that, and store it as prop1, prop2, etc...17:22
dansmith?17:22
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dansmithprop1 huh?17:22
alaskiI forget what's in there :)17:22
dansmithI don't know what you mean by "and store it as prop1.."17:23
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alaskirequestspec.prop1/prop2 vs requestspec.instance_properties17:23
dansmithoh you mean as requestspec.prop1 and not requestspec.instance.prop117:23
dansmithyes17:23
dansmithdo that :017:23
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alaskiheh, cool17:24
alaskithat means an update to bauzas spec, which I can put up17:24
dansmithright17:24
bauzasfair17:25
bauzasstill otp sorry17:25
alaskithat was all I had on specs for the moment17:25
alaskianyone else have something?17:25
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alaski#topic Open Discussion17:26
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alaskior anything for general discussion?17:26
dansmithnot I17:26
dansmithhope to have cells job voting by next meeting?17:27
alaskiyes17:27
dansmithpretty amazing, the future we live in17:27
alaskiI'd like to bring it up in the nova meeting17:27
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alaskidansmith: hah :)17:27
dansmithalaski: cool17:27
melwittjust an fyi: I've been working on the patch from long ago that passes a real instance object to cells instance_update_at_top which is part of converting stuff to objects17:27
alaskiexcellent17:28
dansmithsweet17:28
alaskianything up to see yet?17:28
melwittnot yet. I've almost got the unit tests passing with it17:28
alaskicool.  please add me when it's up17:29
melwittwill do17:29
alaskiif nothing else, early marks17:29
alaski#endmeeting17:29
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Apr 22 17:29:50 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:29
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alaskithanks all17:29
edleafethanks alaski17:30
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bauzasalaski: grrr, still otp17:38
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lhchengdavid-lyle is going to join us in a bit20:00
lhchenggoing to start the horizon meeting20:01
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lhcheng#startmeeting Horizon20:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 22 20:01:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lhcheng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:01
rhagartyhello20:01
lhchenghello everyone20:01
gary-smith_hi20:01
mrungehello20:02
TravTo/20:02
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cbaderhi20:02
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mattfarinahowdy20:02
jgravelhello20:02
david-lyleo/20:03
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lhchengwill for a minute for people to trickle in20:03
lhcheng#chair david-lyle20:03
openstackCurrent chairs: david-lyle lhcheng20:03
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david-lyleok, Let's get rolling now that tqtran_afk is gone :P20:04
tqtran_afklol sorry have a dentist app20:04
TravThaha20:04
tqtran_afkcindy has agreed to take over20:04
david-lyleno worries20:04
david-lyleenjoy20:05
lhcheng#topic General20:05
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david-lyleSo we have opened RC-2 mostly for translation and a few opportunistic bug fixes20:06
lhcheng#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-rc220:06
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adurbin_I'm not sure if this is the correct time to ask, is the window open to submit/request a fish-bowl talk for the vancouver summit?20:06
lhchengI see there are 5 bugs that are tagged as rc-potential: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bugs?field.tag=kilo-rc-potential20:07
david-lyleadurbin_, we'll cover that in a minute20:07
david-lyledoug-fish, o/20:07
adurbin_david-lyle: ok, thanks20:08
lhchengare those bug still to be determined if we want to include them for rc2?20:08
doug-fishdavid-lyle: did we win?20:08
david-lylelhcheng, doug-fish, doug-fish has a couple of bugs that are string changes on that list20:08
david-lylethe csv one certainly didn't make it to translators and I -2'd it20:09
david-lylewasn't sure about the admin state one20:09
david-lylesince it's a previously translated string, I wasn't sure20:09
david-lylewondeing if the mapping is there in the .po file20:09
* david-lyle also wondering20:10
doug-fishoh yes -  I don't think there is any new translation for the Admin State fix20:10
lhchengnot sure, worst case if will just default to english20:10
david-lylewhich it already does20:10
doug-fishit's pointing to the existing translations20:10
lhchengdoesn't break anything20:10
david-lyleso we can probably approve that20:10
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lhchengsounds good to me20:11
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david-lyleok I +2'd it, I'll let ttx, approve it20:11
lhchengokay, targetted the bug for Kilo too.20:12
david-lylethanks20:12
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david-lyleok, everything should be set now for RC-220:14
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david-lyletranslations should be ready tomorrow20:14
david-lylethen we'll wrap Kilo20:15
david-lyle\o/20:15
TravT\o/20:15
david-lyleit does look like we'll get another requirements bump20:15
david-lyleglanceclient apparently not ideal20:15
lhchengso the other 3 bugs tagged for rc-potential, we won't be adding them to RC-2?20:16
david-lylethey don't have patches merged on master do they?20:16
lhchengno, 2 still in progress, 1 haven't started20:16
gary-smith_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128133/ is just waiting for core reviews20:17
david-lylemrunge, I couldn't reproduce this one20:17
david-lylehave you reverified?20:17
mrungedavid-lyle, sorry?20:17
david-lyleyou filed a bug regarding nova-net20:17
mrungesorry, I didn't had a minute to look at that20:17
david-lyleok, let me know if you can reproduce20:17
mrungeso, I guess it's either not a bug, or we'll hear from users20:18
david-lyleI'm hoping for the former20:18
mrungeyes, me too20:18
mattfarinadavid-lyle can we get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128133/ into rc2 if it's ready?20:18
mrungedavid-lyle, thank you for looking into that20:18
david-lylemrunge if you can repro, we need to fix20:19
david-lylefor kilo20:19
mrungesure20:19
david-lyleanyone else testing with nova-net20:19
david-lylelhcheng?20:19
lhchengmrunge: that bug is from using the existing launch instance?20:19
david-lyleyes20:19
mrungelhcheng, yes20:19
david-lylewonder if it was glanceclient related20:19
lhchengI'll try it out after the meeting20:19
mrungecurrent lauch instance20:19
david-lyleI'll try again tomorrow20:20
mrungenew launch instance renders just a white screen20:20
mrungeI didn't file a but for that20:20
david-lylereally?20:20
lhchengit's experimental :P20:20
mrungeno bug to see20:20
david-lylewe're settling on a shade of white20:20
mrungethat was rc120:20
TravTmrunge: would like to know more about that.20:21
mrungelet's move that to #openstack-horizon please20:21
TravTsounds good20:21
david-lylemattfarina, I've meant to look into that.20:21
mattfarinadavid-lyle it's a regression that would be nice to have fixed. otherwise some of us will need to carry that change20:22
gary-smith_mattfarina: +120:22
david-lyledoes it effect only editing the local_settings.py to add the dashboard, or the plugin mechanism via local/enabled as well?20:22
david-lyles/does it effect/is it seen/20:23
gary-smith_I see it when usnig local/enabled20:23
jwydavid-lyle: it's to fix a bug in the plugin mechanism20:23
david-lyleok, I'll review today20:23
jwythanks20:23
david-lylelhcheng, that's your backyard, can you take a look too?20:24
jwyi've seen people asking about that bug in the horizon channel a few times20:24
david-lylewe're building interest :)20:24
jwybeen affecting a number of folks20:24
david-lylewe should try to get that in20:24
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gary-smith_fyi, The instructions for installing manila-ui require manually applying 128133 (https://github.com/hp-storage/manila-ui/blob/master/README.rst)20:25
lhchengdavid-lyle: yeah, been reviewing that initially. got distracted with other stuff20:25
lhchengI'll look at it later20:25
david-lylebut does it rebreak the issue that caused a patch creating the regression20:25
david-lyle?20:25
david-lylewill review and see20:25
david-lylemoving on20:25
jwyno, the intial issue is also addressed by the patch20:26
jwyer, original issue20:26
david-lylejwy, ok, thanks, that flew under my radar a bit20:26
david-lylewe have a day or so to get it landed20:26
david-lyledepending on when translations lannd20:27
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david-lyleI'm still working on the specs repo20:27
david-lylehope to have more progress reported soon, been traveling20:27
david-lyleMoving on to the agenda which I'm prepending a topic onto20:28
david-lyle#topic summit planning20:29
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david-lyletopic proposal etherpad up #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-liberty-summit20:29
david-lyleplease propose your ideas there in the next week20:29
david-lyleand then we'll start picking topics20:30
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david-lyleremember we have 3 fishbowl sessions, 8 working sessions and all day Friday20:30
TravTDo you know the days and times for the session allocation?20:30
david-lyleso propose working session topics there too20:30
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david-lyleTravT yes20:30
david-lyle:P20:30
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david-lyle#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VsFdRYGbX5eCde81XDV7TrPBfEC7cgtOFikruYmqbPY/edit#gid=56996312820:31
david-lylefrom the ML20:31
TravTthanks, added that link to the etherpad20:31
david-lylerecent change in Horizon schedule to free up Thursday afternoon Horizon talk time20:31
david-lylemrunge, when is you talk?20:31
david-lyle*your20:32
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mrungemonday20:32
david-lyleno conflicts then20:32
david-lylegood20:32
mrungedavid-lyle, I don't see, why we have two talks with nearly the same topic20:32
david-lylewe'll start sorting topics next week and try to begin placing them20:32
david-lylemrunge, shrug20:33
david-lylelatter will focus much more angular side20:33
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david-lyleI don't think they'll overlap too much20:33
david-lyleunless you're talking angular in Horizon20:33
mrungeyeah, makes sense. I will skip that completely20:33
mrungeand will point folks to your talk20:33
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david-lyleperfect20:34
david-lyleany questions on the summit?20:34
mrungewill we have a contributor meetup?20:35
TravTSo, Thursday afternoon is like extra contributor meetup?20:35
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doug-fishmrunge: you mean like, meet informally over a drink before the summit starts?20:36
mrungeyes!20:36
TravT+120:36
doug-fish+1!20:36
doug-fishMy flight arrives kind of early on Sunday, so I'd be up for that.20:36
mrungeI'll be in late on Sunday, count me in20:37
clu_+120:37
mrungedoug-fish, glad you'll manage to come20:37
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doug-fishwell let's hope I don't break anything between now and then.  :-)20:37
david-lyleso session types, non-program f2f pre-summit, fishbowl, working (40 minute smaller group), contributor meetup (all day Friday)20:38
doug-fishI'm looking forward to it.20:38
david-lylesomebody pick a venue for the pre-summit20:38
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david-lyleTravT, I'm not entirely sure your question20:39
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TravTdavid-lyle: above you said something about freeing up time Thursday for Horizon talks.20:39
TravTDid you mean the conference presentations?20:39
david-lyleTravT, you're presenting20:40
david-lyle5 people are that would be a sizeable chunk20:40
TravTlol - yeah, i just wasn't quite sure20:40
david-lyleit overlapped with a working session20:40
TravTok.20:40
david-lyleif you hadn't looked before, I probably couldn't have said anything :P20:40
TravTlol... no I hadn't looked at the design summit schedule before.20:41
* david-lyle has no idea what tense I'm typing in 20:41
david-lyleall I think20:41
david-lyleequal opportunity tense20:41
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david-lyleok, there was another topic on the agenda20:41
david-lyle#topic Jshint undef and unused clean up for legacy code, should we do it? (tqtran)20:42
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david-lyleclu_, did tqtran_afk pass this off to you?20:42
clu_david-lyle: yes20:42
clu_he ran off before i could say no :)20:43
david-lylehaha20:43
david-lyleok, unconfuse me20:43
david-lylewhat is the question20:43
clu_he wants to know see if everyone is ok with adding to 2 flags20:44
lhchengI think tqtran_afk want to add the undef and unusued variable in jshint20:44
clu_to check for unused variables and such20:44
clu_yep20:44
lhchengbut it fails on a lot of the old javascript code20:44
david-lyleoh, so go hack up all the legacy code?20:44
david-lyle(boom)20:44
asahlin* turn on flags but ingore legacy javascript20:44
lhchengyup20:45
asahlinI think that was tqtran's proposal.20:45
david-lylewait turn on and ignore20:45
david-lyle?20:45
david-lylewon't that be noisy20:45
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david-lyleor not checking the legacy code?20:45
mattfarinawe still work on the legacy code... jshint should still be run on that20:45
lhchengexclude the legacy code from the check20:45
david-lylejust for those two flags?20:45
lhchenghmm not sure if that is possible20:46
asahlinI think it was ignore entirely20:46
david-lyleI would doubt it20:46
mattfarinahow hard would a patch to clean up the problems be before we add the flags?20:46
david-lylehmm, there's a fair amount of active JS code there20:46
mattfarinathere isn't that much JS20:46
* mattfarina thinks the amount of JS is relative20:46
david-lyleuncle leo?20:46
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lhchengI think there are hundreds, not complicated by tedious20:47
lhcheng*but20:47
doug-fishI like the idea of bringing the legacy js inline with what jshint recommends20:47
asahlinI think he turned it on and hit ~ 40020:47
TravT400 errors?20:47
mrungecool20:47
asahlinyeah20:47
david-lyleI those flags would point out relatively benign fixes, like unused20:47
doug-fishlet's make tqtran_afk fix it!20:47
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mrunge+120:47
TravT+120:48
david-lyle+100020:48
asahlin+120:48
mattfarina+120:48
doug-fish+120:48
doug-fishlol20:48
david-lylehis idea, he can do it20:48
mrungeword!20:48
david-lylesold20:48
doug-fishnow is a good time for that kind of refactor too (early in the release)20:48
TravTI see now why he turned over to clu_ and went to the dentist20:48
mrungecongrats tqtran_afk20:48
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david-lyle#action tqtran_afk fixes legacy JS20:48
lhchengtoo bad it backfired20:48
lhchenglol20:48
asahlinlol20:48
doug-fishzodm20:48
doug-fishoops20:48
mattfarinai like that action. it's so well defined!20:48
david-lyleI think I scoped it correctly20:49
TravTlol20:49
doug-fishIsn't that what he intended?  Permission/agreement on that approach20:49
david-lylelet's do it early20:49
lhchengI think he is looking more for forgiveness20:49
david-lylewe need a saner L-3 than k-320:49
TravTall joking aside, i think it is a good idea.20:50
doug-fishI assume tqtran_afk will let us know if he wants to break it up and get help20:50
lhchengmy only worry is possibility of regression20:50
TravTall the more reason to do it early20:50
mattfarinaso, while he's doing this he should add to the tests?20:50
david-lylelhcheng, unused should be fairly harmless unless they're globals20:51
david-lyle:/20:51
asahlintqtran has a patch up to add thse 2 paths to .jshintignore20:51
asahlin20:51
lhchengdavid-lyle: true20:51
asahlinhorizon/static/horizon/tests/20:51
asahlinhorizon/static/horizon/js/*.js20:51
doug-fishhas anyone been able to spend time on our integration tests?20:51
doug-fishI miss them.20:51
david-lyledoug-fish, I haven't got back to them20:51
doug-fishI haven't either.20:52
david-lyle#topic open discussion20:52
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david-lylejust a little late20:52
david-lyleI want to discuss at the summit a more robust approach20:52
david-lylemight be a dream, but we break a lot on integration tests, but not by them catching issues20:52
david-lyleonly selenium or another dependency hamstringing us20:53
TravTI sent out a message to the ML a bit ago.20:53
david-lylewhich make the integration tests ignored20:53
TravTon the angular work.  please take a look20:53
doug-fishTravT: have a link?20:54
TravThmm... let me see.20:54
TravT#link: http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg51188.html20:54
clu_TravT: +120:55
david-lyleI have to run20:56
david-lylelhcheng, can you shut this down in 5 minutes20:56
david-lyle?20:56
lhchengsure20:56
david-lylethanks!20:56
TravTdavid-lyle: you should also consider eating better.20:56
TravT:P20:57
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lhchengdoug-fish: do you have an idea on the changes need for integration test to work?20:59
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doug-fishno. Haven't studied it yet to know what's happening20:59
doug-fishI'm hopeful I can spend some time on it next week.  But I hoped that last week as well.  :-(21:00
lhchengokay, I'll try to help out when I get the time.21:00
lhchengalright, time's up21:00
lhchengthanks everyone21:00
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doug-fishthanks!21:00
lhcheng#endmeeting21:00
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