Tuesday, 2015-05-05

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pcm_hi16:00
mlavallehi16:00
xgermanhi16:00
ajmillerGood morning16:00
sballeo/16:00
Aisho/16:00
anilvenkatahi16:00
pcm_Let's get going...16:01
pcm_#startmeeting vpnaas16:01
openstackMeeting started Tue May  5 16:01:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is pcm_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'vpnaas'16:01
pcm_Been a while since we met last. Wanted to touch base with people before summit.16:01
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pcm_#topic Announcements16:02
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pcm_Fedora support is being added for StrongSwan16:02
pcm_IPv6 testing and support being added16:02
pcm_There is a simple scenario (functional) test out for review16:03
pcm_The functional jobs are being modified to configure devstack, but not stack (out for review).16:03
pcm_Please sign up for and review all these commits we have, so they can upstream16:03
pcm_Thanks to everyone for their hard work!16:04
pcm_Anyone have any other announcements?16:04
anilvenkatalibreswan driver added for fedora16:05
pcm_Ah yes, forgot that one, and it is upstreamed, right?16:05
anilvenkatayes16:05
pcm_anilvenkata: nice work16:05
anilvenkatathanks pcm_16:05
pcm_#topic Functional Testing16:06
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pcm_Just to reiterate, as it's been trudging along for weeks... I've been modifying the functional jobs to be like Neutron and only configure DevStack, but not spin up devstack.16:06
pcm_I finally got it working and it is out for review. Looking for cores.16:07
pcm_We can use more functional test coverage, especially OpenSwan/LibreSwan. If anyone has some time/desire, please join in.16:07
pcm_#topic Bugs16:08
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anilvenkataI https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145047916:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1450479 in neutron "left=<ipv6_addr> not allowed when gw has both v4 & v6 address" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata)16:08
pcm_Here is the latest list of bugs with VPNaaS tag: https://goo.gl/XNtnLX16:08
anilvenkataI have a doubt here16:09
* pcm_ interesting expansion of the URL.16:09
pcm_anilvenkata: Sure16:09
anilvenkataIf I have the following setup http://paste.openstack.org/show/215006/16:09
anilvenkatawhat will be the my ipsec.conf file?16:09
pcm_You;re talking about that specific bug?16:10
anilvenkataassume for strongswan, as it supports ipv4 and ipv6 at same time in ipsec.conf16:10
anilvenkatayes16:10
* pcm_ I posted a shortened url that should have been a list of all the VPN bugs (not sure why it showed that).16:10
anilvenkataleft parameter in ipsec.conf in vpnaas can only support one address per ipsec.conf, but if i have a situation like in http://paste.openstack.org/show/215006/ I will need left with different ips per ipsec.conf16:12
anilvenkatapcm_:  I thought it is the right platform to ask this question, if it is not the right time, I will talk it later16:13
pcm_anilvenkata: yeah, right now, IPsec connections are 1:N, with only one local subnet and multiple remote subnets.16:13
pcm_anilvenkata: So is the issue that it is trying to use the GW IP and there are two16:14
pcm_?16:14
anilvenkatamy scenario is also same i.e 1:N, but remote subnet1 is have ipv4 gateway address and remote subnet2 supports only ipv6 address16:14
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anilvenkatalocal gateway has both ipv4 and ipv6 address, it has to use ipv4 address for remote1 and ipv6 address for remote216:15
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pcm_anilvenkata: Can you clarify? In the drawing what routers are in what clouds? Are you doing two connections involving three clouds?16:17
pcm_anilvenkata: IOW, is router1 the left side, and router2 and router3 are right sides for other clouds?16:18
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anilvenkatayes16:19
anilvenkataassume I have 3 clouds and each router is on different cloud16:20
pcm_anilvenkata: gotcha. So, is it always taking the IPv4 address for the left side?16:20
anilvenkatacloud 1 is having router1 which supports(has) both ipv4 and ipv6 address for its gateway port16:20
anilvenkatayes, it is always talking ipv4 address for the left16:21
pcm_anilvenkata: Sounds like a limitation of the API. Wonder if it should allow user to specify the local subnet.16:21
pcm_anilvenkata: Maybe it could also be extended to support multiple local subnets (assuming *Swan supports)16:21
pcm_anilvenkata: Can you have multiple subnets on left side for *Swan?16:22
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anilvenkatahttps://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/VirtualIp16:23
anilvenkata leftsourceip=%config4,%config616:23
anilvenkataI am not sure16:23
anilvenkataneed to look more into it16:23
pcm_Looks like it can, according to Initiator Config sections.16:24
anilvenkatabut stong swan support both ipv4 and ipv6 in same ipsec.conf for single connection http://www.strongswan.org/uml/testresults43/ipv6/net2net-ip6-in-ip4-ikev2/moon.ipsec.conf16:24
pcm_anilvenkata: I'd suggest checking it out and maybe that could be a proposed change to the API to allow local subnet specification.16:24
anilvenkataconn net-net  left=192.168.0.1 leftsubnet=fec1::0/1616:24
pcm_"Since 5.0.1 a client may request multiple IP addresses by listing a comma-separated combination of %config4, %config6 or fixed IP addresses in leftsourceip."16:25
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anilvenkatabut all these are not supported in openswan :)16:25
anilvenkatamean it supports either ipv6 or ipv4 in a single connection16:26
pcm_I read it as any combination of multiple addresses, so maybe it supports multiple of same type.16:26
pcm_anilvenkata: Just not to side track too much here... I'd say look into seeing if StrongSwan/OpenSwan/LibreSwan can support multiple local CIDRs and if so, a change can be proposed to the API.16:27
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anilvenkatasure, thanks16:27
pcm_Regarding the other bugs I linked above, look them over and comment on, assign yourself, to any of interest. I spend several hours going through the list recently and commenting on a bunch of them, but it was pretty overwhelming.16:28
pcm_#action anilvenkata to look to see if *Swan can support multiple local CIDRs.16:28
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pcm_Were there any other bugs reported that anyone wants to highlight?16:29
* pcm_ we'll talk about reviews in a minute.16:29
pcm_#topic Reviews16:30
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pcm_Here is the current list:  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas,n,z16:30
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pcm_Please help out in reviewing... if we can all provide "domain specific" reviews, it'll help the drivers team do core reviews.16:31
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pcm_Are there any reviews that need discussion? (I still have to go through some today)16:32
pcm_#topic Open Discussion16:34
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svinotaI have a question, if I may ask within this open discussion16:34
pcm_There is no VPN specific session at the Summit, but there will be opportunity Friday for people to get together and discuss.16:34
pcm_svinota: sure go ahead16:34
svinotais there someone working on BGPVPN?16:35
pcm_yes, although it is being handled as a project in StackForge.16:36
svinotaand about the summit — I'm pretty sure there will be some people who's interested in a possible discussion, so may be we could just make a talk16:37
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pcm_svinota: On Friday, we can meet to discuss VPN, as there will be time reserved for that free form meeting, like they did last summit (I forget the catchy name)16:39
xgermanThe Friday meetings16:39
pcm_xgerman: :)16:39
svinotapcm_, 10x, I'll try to catch :)16:39
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pcm_svinota: Yesh, I think there are a bunch of people who want to talk about various VPN topics. Should be a good free for all :)16:40
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pcm_BTW: I'm going to start a ML thread to talk about how we integrate in things like BGP VPN w.r.t. the APIs.16:41
pcm_since I was asking about it this morning.16:41
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ajmillerpcm_ I am going to try to ramp up involvement with vpnaas.  Have other compenting priorities though.  Will be trying to do more reviews and pick up some small tasks.  I will be in Vancouver, and am looking forward to getting connected...16:42
xgermanpcm_ we were also thinking to opening up the LBaaS mid cycle to all advanced services: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LBaaS-FWaaS-VPNaaS_Summer_Midcycle_meetup16:42
pcm_ajmiller: Great! Looking forward to seeing you.16:43
pcm_xgerman: That's a great idea (I forgot Doug mentioned it once). Anyone interested/able to attend the LBaaS mid-cycle, there info on the link. Thanks xgerman16:44
xgermanwe were hoping you could come — so vote wisely on the location :-)16:44
pcm_xgerman: Not sure I can. Have commitments for Neutron mid-cycle already. Will have to see.16:45
xgermanok16:45
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pcm_Anything else folks?16:46
pcm_Thanks for all the contributions on VPN during Kilo! Looking forward to seeing folks at the summit!16:46
anilvenkatathanks pcm_16:47
anilvenkatathanks all16:47
xgermanthanks cpm_16:47
xgermanpcm_16:47
pcm_#endmeeting16:47
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"16:47
openstackMeeting ended Tue May  5 16:47:34 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:47
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svinotathanks pcm_16:47
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vpnaas/2015/vpnaas.2015-05-05-16.01.log.html16:47
pcm_bye folks!16:47
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thinrichsHi all.17:02
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thinrichs#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting17:02
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alexsyiphello!17:02
thinrichsalexsyip: hi!17:02
thinrichsAnyone else here for Congress?17:02
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jwyhowdy17:04
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thinrichsjwy: hi!17:05
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thinrichsLight crew today—I'm assuming everyone is preparing for the summit, or taking a break.17:07
thinrichsA couple of items then.17:07
thinrichsWe have 5 sessions on Congress at the summit; schedule is …17:07
thinrichshttps://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/?s=congress17:07
thinrichs3 of those sessions are part of the design summit, not the standard conference track.17:07
thinrichsSo you may only see the 2 in the standard conference if you only registered for the conference.17:08
thinrichsLet's make sure we encourage the folks we know to attend these.17:08
thinrichsalexsyip is driving the design of the Hands On Lab, which is part of the standard conference.17:08
thinrichsalexsyip: how's that going?17:08
alexsyipI have an outline we worked out in a meeting yesterday.17:09
alexsyippettori needs to provide the policy.17:09
alexsyipWe thought there would be a document tempate for the instructions, but there is none, so we’ll write one in google docs.17:10
alexsyiparosen is going to work on the machines/networking for the user machines.17:10
alexsyipThat’s where we are.17:10
thinrichsalexsyip: Great!17:11
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thinrichspettori: how's the policy coming?17:11
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thinrichsperhaps he stepped away.17:12
thinrichsThere's also the delegation talk that I've been working hard on.17:12
thinrichsTrying to get a demo together where a user writes a policy describing what it means for VM-placement to be suboptimal.17:13
thinrichsThen the current Congress policy engine delegates the enforcement of that policy to a purpose-built VM-placement policy engine.17:13
thinrichsThat VM-placement policy engine then migrates VMs to optimize their placement.17:14
thinrichsThere are a handful of patch-sets up in review.17:14
thinrichsThey're not ready for review—they're too experimental at this point.17:14
thinrichsBut at some point I think it'll be good to push them in even if they're still experimental,17:14
thinrichssince they don't destabilize the rest of Congress.17:15
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thinrichsjwy: do you have time to help work on material for the summit?17:15
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jwya little bit. i also have to work on the neutron hol, plus other non-openstack items17:16
jwylet me know what's needed17:17
thinrichsjwy: understood.  I'm thinking it would be nice to do a quick demo of your UI in the talk where we give an overview of Congress.17:17
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jwythinrichs: sure17:18
thinrichsjwy: it's part of a 40 minute talk, so we don't have much time.  Maybe just walking through how to write a single rule via Horizon would be good.17:18
thinrichsProbably next week I'll have a draft of the slides together; maybe then you could help me decide what to show of the UI.17:18
thinrichsAnd whether I show it, or you show it.17:18
jwyok17:19
thinrichsThe other thing we'll need to do before the summit is write up blueprints/specs for at least the most critical features for liberty.17:19
thinrichsI'll try to divvy up and send out emails.  Also probably next week.17:20
thinrichsAnything else we need to do for the summit?17:20
alexsyipThat sounds right to me.17:21
alexsyipJust the presentation and the blueprints.17:21
thinrichsOne other thing before I forget: there was an interesting, policy-relevant email from the Keystone team this morning.17:21
thinrichs#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/063271.html17:21
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thinrichsIt's long, and they are tackling several issues.17:22
thinrichsI suggest we all read over it.17:23
thinrichsIt seems we ought to sit and talk with the Keystone policy people about this at the summit.17:23
thinrichsI'll also start engaging them on the ML.17:23
dstanekthinrichs: i think getting together to discuss would be a good idea17:24
thinrichsdstanek: great!  I was planning to attend at least some of the keystone design sessions anyway.17:24
thinrichsThat's it for me.  Anyone else have anything to discuss/report?17:26
thinrichs#topic open discussion17:26
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thinrichsGuess that's it for this week then.17:30
thinrichsThanks all!  And let's get pumped for the summit!17:30
thinrichs#endmeeting17:30
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