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| j^2 | #startmeeting openstack-chef | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 1 15:00:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is j^2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef' | 15:00 |
| j^2 | Wait, it's says 1500. | 15:00 |
| j^2 | Anyone here for the openstack-chef status meeting | 15:00 |
| sc` | o/ | 15:01 |
| j^2 | Yeah look at the bit, it says 1500 | 15:01 |
| j^2 | I hate timezones | 15:01 |
| therve | It's in 1h AFAICT | 15:02 |
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| sc` | good old dst | 15:03 |
| j^2 | wow, i’m really confused | 15:03 |
| markvan | howdy | 15:03 |
| j^2 | sam, i’ll announce the meeting in 56 mins in our other channel | 15:04 |
| j^2 | markvan: it seems it’s 1500UTC atm | 15:04 |
| j^2 | so we’re an hour early | 15:04 |
| markvan | ah, was wondering about that, god my cal is correct then | 15:04 |
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| j^2 | ha! | 15:05 |
| j^2 | ok, sorry about the confusion, back here in 55mins | 15:05 |
| j^2 | #endmeeting | 15:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 1 15:05:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-01-15.00.html | 15:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-01-15.00.txt | 15:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-01-15.00.log.html | 15:05 |
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| j^2 | #startmeeting openstack-chef | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 1 16:00:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is j^2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| j^2 | hey everyone! | 16:00 |
| j^2 | this is the _correct_ time :D | 16:00 |
| markvan | howdy | 16:00 |
| j^2 | we have a couple things on the agenda | 16:00 |
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| j^2 | especially haveing a week in essance off last week | 16:01 |
| sc` | hi | 16:01 |
| j^2 | please take a couple mins add any last min agenda items and we’ll start at 05 past the hour | 16:01 |
| j^2 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-chef-meeting-20150601 | 16:01 |
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| j^2 | nice, ok first topic: | 16:04 |
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| j^2 | #topic sam and the update of c7? | 16:04 |
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| j^2 | sc`: ^^ | 16:05 |
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| sc` | i was able to converge aio-nova with some workarounds, namely removing ironic from the roles and changing the mariadb service name from 'mysql' to 'mariadb' | 16:05 |
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| sc` | workarounds are outlined in http://paste.openstack.org/show/253072/ | 16:05 |
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| sc` | there have been efforts to move the packages' source of truth to mirror.centos.org from repos.fedorapeople, which can come in a later change once the packages pass gpg verification | 16:06 |
| j^2 | hmm, ok, is there anything we can help/do to move this forward? | 16:07 |
| sc` | the biggest takeaway is that Ironic packages are still WIP | 16:07 |
| j^2 | man, Ironic AGAIN | 16:07 |
| * j^2 stares daggers at markvan | 16:07 | |
| j^2 | i blame you | 16:07 |
| * markvan ouch... | 16:07 | |
| markvan | seems like ironic is low priprity for rdo, where as ubuntu and other had that done long ago...humm. | 16:08 |
| j^2 | lovely | 16:08 |
| markvan | sc`: for the mariadb, is that a cookbok bug? | 16:09 |
| sc` | markvan: yes it is. the package on c7 comes with 'mariadb.service' | 16:09 |
| j^2 | i think it’s a problem with the versions of the mysql cookbook we’re running | 16:09 |
| j^2 | we need up probably update | 16:09 |
| j^2 | it | 16:09 |
| sc` | it's specifically the mariadb cookbook | 16:09 |
| markvan | ah | 16:09 |
| sc` | will need to do some upstream work on that one | 16:10 |
| j^2 | can you put a small todo list about the fix for it? | 16:10 |
| j^2 | if we can track it we could probably make it happ | 16:11 |
| j^2 | en | 16:11 |
| j^2 | i cant seem to type today | 16:11 |
| sc` | sure | 16:11 |
| j^2 | thanks, just drop it in the agenda so i can move it to the next to track the steps | 16:11 |
| j^2 | #topic markvan and the trials of ubuntu | 16:11 |
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| j^2 | the most important question off of all of this: Does this mean we need to start looking at 15.04? if there is no plan to back port to trusty? | 16:12 |
| markvan | Looks like that bug is in the trusty repo now, running a verify test now | 16:12 |
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| markvan | hopefully this is the end of that saga. | 16:12 |
| alanmeadows | I had just gotten my head completely around 14.04 :/ | 16:12 |
| j^2 | markvan: nice | 16:13 |
| j^2 | so progress is progress right? | 16:13 |
| markvan | yup | 16:13 |
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| j^2 | so we’ll wait on the validation, then we’ll circle back on this? | 16:13 |
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| markvan | yup, I'll post up when verified | 16:14 |
| j^2 | #topic sc` and fauxhai | 16:14 |
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| sc` | fauxhai is still at 2.3.0 on rubygems.org. still need to get a new gem released for the rhel7 update | 16:15 |
| j^2 | grr | 16:15 |
| j^2 | I can try to pull some strings to get fauxhai updated, let me see what resources i can leverage | 16:16 |
| markvan | Yeah, this hack is ugly: https://github.com/stackforge/cookbook-openstack-common/blob/master/bootstrap.sh#L13 j^2 can we maybe push form ChefDK side? Is mean ChefDK lacks suppport for rhel 7 without this hack | 16:16 |
| j^2 | will do | 16:16 |
| j^2 | added it to the Action items on the agenda | 16:17 |
| j^2 | #topic jklare Eastern Hemi update | 16:17 |
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| j^2 | jklare: around? | 16:18 |
| markvan | have not heard from kingkong today...(as I try to get his new kick to stick... | 16:18 |
| j^2 | hahah i like it | 16:19 |
| markvan | We have the CI patch proposed for a new gate here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186379/ Please review if you have not already,t hx | 16:19 |
| j^2 | markvan: bad, we have an agenda, you shouldnt drop things in like that | 16:20 |
| j^2 | still great work though | 16:20 |
| markvan | just trying to fill jklare gap about where CI is | 16:20 |
| j^2 | heh | 16:20 |
| j^2 | ok, next topic | 16:21 |
| j^2 | #topic core reviewer | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "core reviewer (Meeting topic: openstack-chef)" | 16:21 | |
| alanmeadows | j^2, when you get a chance, give a final yay or nay to MAINTAINERS.md, and I'll make it so across the field with the README updates | 16:21 |
| j^2 | yay | 16:21 |
| j^2 | wait | 16:21 |
| j^2 | no | 16:21 |
| alanmeadows | heh | 16:21 |
| j^2 | yeah i’ll take the action item for it | 16:22 |
| alanmeadows | This is the guinea pig: https://review.openstack.org/185113 | 16:22 |
| j^2 | perfect,’ i was just about to ask that | 16:22 |
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| j^2 | i’ll give this topic a few more mins | 16:22 |
| j^2 | we have our maintainers and we’ll leverage the review for new cores | 16:23 |
| j^2 | this actaully brings up something that showed up in openstack-infra the other day | 16:23 |
| j^2 | i’d like to mention this while we have everyone here | 16:23 |
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| j^2 | so as Cores we are the leaders of our project, make sure you acknowalge this, the PTL is only an administrator and there to step in when the community is at a standstill. So as we start growing our project now please keep this in mind as we start recruiting more people | 16:25 |
| j^2 | and as alanmeadows says, the PTL is only a hub of information | 16:25 |
| markvan | agree | 16:25 |
| j^2 | as we are now santioned i can imagine our community is going to have some growth, if not sudden steady and we’re gonna be bigger than we are used to | 16:26 |
| * j^2 gets off his soap box | 16:26 | |
| j^2 | any thoughts objections questions? | 16:26 |
| sc` | seems sensible to me | 16:27 |
| markvan | something for cores to discuss, schedules for our project? (bp deadlines and such...) | 16:27 |
| markvan | or are they first proposed by ptl | 16:27 |
| j^2 | i think there isn’t an offical way to decide, it’s a perproject thing | 16:28 |
| j^2 | especially if your interdependant on the other projects | 16:28 |
| markvan | ok, I'll add something to agenda for next meeting to discuss | 16:28 |
| j^2 | souds good | 16:28 |
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| j^2 | ok, so this topic dove tails into our another topic | 16:29 |
| j^2 | #topic stackforge -> openstack | 16:29 |
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| j^2 | so I’ve put in: | 16:30 |
| j^2 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186532/ | 16:30 |
| j^2 | this should be the final step we need to get moved | 16:30 |
| j^2 | but it requires downtime with infra | 16:30 |
| j^2 | i have us on the agenda for the next meeting which is tomorrow | 16:31 |
| j^2 | we should be set to get put on the next down time, but if we can make the meeting and make sure there are no hang ups it would help: | 16:31 |
| markvan | yup, also will have a small ripple effect on our tools/doc | 16:31 |
| j^2 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames | 16:31 |
| j^2 | any thoughts objections questions? | 16:32 |
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| markvan | I can't think of any timing issues with doing that now vs later, but that would be my only concern | 16:33 |
| markvan | And does that mean that we could not be also part of the supermarket? | 16:33 |
| alanmeadows | good question | 16:33 |
| j^2 | i don’t think so | 16:34 |
| j^2 | we still don’t own the repo | 16:34 |
| j^2 | though, I’ve been tasked with creating a “simple compute cookbook” that we can publish to supermarket leveraging our cookbooks | 16:35 |
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| j^2 | and it’ll be in chef-partners | 16:35 |
| j^2 | assuming i ever get time to code again, i’ll be making that asap | 16:35 |
| markvan | ok | 16:35 |
| j^2 | think of a “simpler version of the testing-stack" | 16:35 |
| j^2 | no cinder or ironic or anything, just the bare minimum | 16:36 |
| j^2 | next topic? | 16:36 |
| j^2 | #topic client cookbook | 16:37 |
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| j^2 | so i need to spend some time working on the client cookbook | 16:37 |
| j^2 | i’d like to send out a doodle to find some time for everyone to do a hacksession | 16:38 |
| j^2 | would anyone be interested? | 16:38 |
| markvan | Im in | 16:38 |
| j^2 | awesome | 16:38 |
| j^2 | i’ll send out the doodle to the ML | 16:38 |
| alanmeadows | although even so, the move is still worth it but I was also curious about that | 16:38 |
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| j^2 | #topic kilo bugs and BPs | 16:40 |
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| j^2 | markvan: thoughts ^^ | 16:40 |
| j^2 | or do you want to set up a deicated time for it? | 16:40 |
| markvan | was just wondering if we are at the point to think about a date for the stable/kilo branch | 16:40 |
| markvan | we can certainly do a bug/bp walk thru to make sure we have agreement on what's left. | 16:41 |
| j^2 | i thought we took the lions share down at summit? | 16:41 |
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| markvan | yup, just trying to followup and wind this down to zero | 16:42 |
| j^2 | ah sounds good | 16:42 |
| j^2 | ok, i’ll let the last 20ish mins open discussion? | 16:43 |
| j^2 | #topic open discussion | 16:43 |
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| j^2 | the floor is anyones | 16:44 |
| markvan | yeah, looks like the ubuntu bug is in trusty cloud archive: libvirt-bin 1.2.12-0ubuntu13~cloud0 yeah! | 16:45 |
| j^2 | !!! | 16:45 |
| openstack | j^2: Error: "!!" is not a valid command. | 16:45 |
| j^2 | link? | 16:45 |
| alanmeadows | a quick one: I think with the move/rename in progress, it makes sense to introduce a designate cookbook post-rename? | 16:45 |
| markvan | j^2: http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/kilo/main/binary-amd64/Packages | 16:45 |
| j^2 | alanmeadows: seems reasonable | 16:45 |
| alanmeadows | to be sure, a "dnsaas" cookbook | 16:46 |
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| j^2 | yeah the std is cookbook-openstack-<something> | 16:46 |
| j^2 | i guess dnsaas could work | 16:46 |
| sc` | the centos cloud sig has packages up at http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-kilo/ but i've found that not all packages are signed by the standard centos package key | 16:47 |
| sc` | there also exists packages for juno on c6 | 16:47 |
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| j^2 | lovely | 16:50 |
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| sc` | the packages for c6 may be incomplete. once it stabilizes and gpg checks out, might be worth switching the common cookbook over to using those repos instead of repos.fp.o | 16:51 |
| markvan | and just a possible TODO, I don't see us listed on this wiki page, but not sure how this is generated, might be from openstack projects, not stackforge: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/New_home | 16:53 |
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| j^2 | cool, i think we’re done for today, thanks everyone | 16:57 |
| j^2 | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 1 16:57:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-01-16.00.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-01-16.00.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2015/openstack_chef.2015-06-01-16.00.log.html | 16:57 |
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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 1 17:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 17:00 |
| devananda | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:00 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | Roll-call: Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, roll-call and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| NobodyCam | \o/ | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
| thiagop | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | we may have folk joining late as there is a neutron / ironic meeting just ending in OS-meeting-4 | 17:01 |
| cinerama | hi | 17:01 |
| gabriel-bezerra | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | \o hello hello | 17:01 |
| NobodyCam | welcome all | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic announcements: | 17:01 |
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| NobodyCam | Devananda is in Las Vegas at HP Discover promoting Ironic | 17:01 |
| NobodyCam | we all survived the summit | 17:01 |
| * dtantsur fixes to "HP Inspect" automatically | 17:01 | |
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| jroll | lol! | 17:02 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:02 |
| clif_h | o/ | 17:02 |
| devananda | dtantsur: LOL! | 17:02 |
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| _lintan | o/ | 17:02 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:02 |
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| Nisha | o/ | 17:02 |
| devananda | and yes, I'm in the belly of the beast | 17:02 |
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| NobodyCam | welcome back everyone. :) | 17:03 |
| devananda | and let me tell you, it smells | 17:03 |
| krtaylor | hehheh | 17:03 |
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| NobodyCam | any announcements before we start the ball rolling? | 17:03 |
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| devananda | there were a few large discussion threads started last week relating to ironic. I dont have all the links prepared - but I hope everyone is watching the -dev mailing list and saw them | 17:04 |
| * devananda has no announcements | 17:04 | |
| NobodyCam | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/065072.html | 17:04 |
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| NobodyCam | that is a link to the summit recap email devananda sent out last week | 17:04 |
| NobodyCam | Thank you devananda :) | 17:05 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic SubTeam: status report are posted on the Whiteboard | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SubTeam: status report are posted on the Whiteboard (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:05 | |
| NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:05 |
| NobodyCam | thank you all for the updates | 17:06 |
| NobodyCam | looks like 3rd party ci is almost ready for the iLo drivers ... awesome news | 17:06 |
| rloo | irmc seems to be the only new update for this week? | 17:06 |
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| jroll | NobodyCam: that looks old | 17:06 |
| devananda | dtantsur: looks like the bug section is overdue for an update | 17:06 |
| jroll | "hopefully will be done before summit" | 17:06 |
| NobodyCam | "doh" | 17:07 |
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| dtantsur | devananda, yeah sorry, it was a busy aftersummit week | 17:07 |
| devananda | dtantsur: indeed :) | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | devananda, I did triage a couple of bugs, but I forgot to update the stats | 17:07 |
| devananda | on the topic of third party CI, we are going to need some central place to consolidate periodic CI job runs | 17:08 |
| devananda | feedback that I've gotten is that many of hte vendors wont be able ot keep up with the patch rate -- iow, they cant test every patch | 17:08 |
| jroll | :( | 17:08 |
| devananda | and so we need to create a "place" where periodic 3rd party CI jobs can post results AND where we'll all see it | 17:08 |
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| devananda | so we can, you know, spot failures | 17:08 |
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| devananda | if not proactively, at least reactively | 17:09 |
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| * dtantsur updated whiteboard | 17:09 | |
| krtaylor | there was a session on that at summit | 17:09 |
| rloo | can they test *only* gate/merges? or is that even too many? | 17:09 |
| devananda | dtantsur: ty | 17:09 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: TY | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-QA-testing-beyond-the-gate | 17:09 |
| devananda | rloo: some might be able to, yes | 17:09 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-QA-testing-beyond-the-gate | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | that is a periodic dashboard proposal | 17:09 |
| devananda | rloo: but there is the further need for us to have periodic jobs *anyway*, eg for other upstream things like upgrade testing that takes 2 hours per run | 17:10 |
| NobodyCam | krtaylor: awesome I will try and look afterthe meeting | 17:10 |
| krtaylor | we have several 3rd party requirements to be able to push results, non-gerrit patch based | 17:10 |
| rloo | yeah, it would be good to have periodic jobs | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | rloo, what's the use of testing in gate? if it's voting, it will annoy people whose patch just got approved. If it's non-voting it's the same as just running a job on master from time to time - it won't help a reviewer | 17:11 |
| NobodyCam | if we have time lets come back to this | 17:11 |
| devananda | thanks for the link, krtaylor. good stuff | 17:12 |
| krtaylor | sure, np, I think it will be a requirement for us to start having in-tree/out-of-tree discussions, start with periodic | 17:12 |
| rloo | dtantsur: to be able to pinpoint when/if a particular patch causes the failure. | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | hmm, right | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | rloo: dtantsur: Wouldn't periodic just run against the tip? | 17:12 |
| devananda | dtantsur: a non-voting test run on the gate could still be used to isolate a change that introduced a failure to a single patch, rather than a window of time (test_time - last_successful_test_time) | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | understood, thanks :) | 17:13 |
| rloo | jlvillal: yeah, it'd run against tip but then you'd need to see 'what changed' since last test | 17:13 |
| devananda | let's move on -- I think we all agree we need to have a place to collate periodic job test results | 17:13 |
| jlvillal | rloo: Okay. | 17:13 |
| NobodyCam | ok moving on. | 17:13 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Neutron meeting recap | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Neutron meeting recap (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 17:13 | |
| NobodyCam | jroll: can you cover this one | 17:14 |
| jroll | ohai | 17:14 |
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| jroll | so we had the first ironic/neutron integration meeting this morning | 17:14 |
| jroll | it went pretty well overall and we made some good plans | 17:14 |
| devananda | jroll: thx for covering that [while I was on a plane] :) | 17:14 |
| jroll | there will be specs incoming from BertieFulton and myself this week, around "how do we store physical network info" and "how do we flip around networks", respectively | 17:15 |
| jroll | we *shouldn't* need nova/neutron specs for this stuff, but we might. there will be nova changes. | 17:15 |
| jroll | be on the lookout for those specs! | 17:15 |
| jroll | that's all I have for now, I think | 17:15 |
| jroll | devananda: np :) | 17:15 |
| NobodyCam | awesome stuff jroll | 17:16 |
| NobodyCam | Thank you | 17:16 |
| rloo | jroll: i guess we just need to be mindful if we need nova specs, to get them in before the cutoff date | 17:16 |
| NobodyCam | looking forward to all the new toys for ironic | 17:16 |
| jroll | rloo: oh, we will :) | 17:16 |
| devananda | ++ what rloo said | 17:16 |
| jroll | rloo: I've already started on nova patches to stay ahead of the game | 17:16 |
| rloo | jroll: awesome! | 17:17 |
| devananda | shall we move on? | 17:18 |
| NobodyCam | any questions for jroll (or anyone) on this? | 17:18 |
| NobodyCam | ack | 17:18 |
| rloo | jroll: do we consider neutron/ironic a 'subteam'? (wondering if we want weekly status) | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | ++ for weekly status | 17:18 |
| jroll | rloo: idk, I'm happy to give weekly updates | 17:18 |
| * jlvillal would vote +1 | 17:18 | |
| devananda | there is a separate IRC meeting for this effort - so yea, I'd call it a subteam | 17:18 |
| NobodyCam | I was expection we would just bug jroll for status' as he did the first one | 17:18 |
| jroll | whether official subteam or whatever | 17:19 |
| NobodyCam | lo | 17:19 |
| jroll | cool | 17:19 |
| NobodyCam | ok moving on. | 17:19 |
| rloo | ok, adding it to our etherpad/subteams | 17:19 |
| NobodyCam | ty rloo | 17:19 |
| jroll | ty | 17:19 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Should Ironic modify filesystems on disk | 17:19 |
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| NobodyCam | this was added by jayf | 17:19 |
| NobodyCam | is he here? | 17:20 |
| devananda | the spec has been up for over a month now | 17:20 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173142 | 17:20 |
| NobodyCam | it has a -2 on it | 17:20 |
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| devananda | I've objected to it, and JayF has -2'd it, because it proposes that IPA mount every file system on the host, scan for a file named "fstab" and then modify that file | 17:20 |
| devananda | writing the configdrive as a raw file and creating a loopback device for it | 17:21 |
| * NobodyCam would vote -2 | 17:21 | |
| NobodyCam | we should not touch users files | 17:21 |
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| devananda | to apparently get around issues that one operator is having with configdrive partition taking up more space than they want to give it | 17:21 |
| NobodyCam | welcome JayF | 17:21 |
| devananda | and/or avoid having too many primary partitions | 17:21 |
| JayF | hey, sorry for being late | 17:21 |
| rloo | would be good to have the submitter of that spec here too | 17:22 |
| natorious | JayF: #topic Should Ironic modify filesystems on disk | 17:22 |
| jroll | I'm also -$vote on this, fwiw | 17:22 |
| jroll | whether that's -1 or -2 | 17:22 |
| devananda | rloo: indeed, but I don't see jxiaobin anywhere on IRC | 17:22 |
| rloo | devananda: maybe they didn't know (or diff time zone). | 17:22 |
| JayF | My primary concern is that today we don't touch filesystems on disk at all, and it's a support matrix I'm not sure we should take on | 17:22 |
| devananda | timezone may make that hard. IIRC, he is in korea | 17:22 |
| rloo | I haven't read the spec, but if we can address the person's concerns some other way, seems like that would be better | 17:23 |
| BadCub | This spec is basically to satisfy one user's use-case? | 17:23 |
| JayF | The idea of not only writing out a file to disk, but modifying configs makes Ironic have knowledge distribution/OS + filesystems required | 17:23 |
| JayF | moreso than it does today | 17:23 |
| devananda | I believe the boundary between user data and operator control plane needs to be (at least within upstream codebase) inviolate | 17:23 |
| devananda | there are clearly defined APIs for passing data into the user's instance (read: cloud-init) | 17:23 |
| devananda | but going in and mucking with /etc/fstab is NOT one of them | 17:23 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 17:24 |
| JayF | ++ | 17:24 |
| gabriel-bezerra | ++ | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:24 |
| BadCub | ++ | 17:24 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 17:24 |
| clif_h | ++ | 17:24 |
| Nisha | ++ | 17:24 |
| jroll | ^^ | 17:24 |
| devananda | heh. well. that's pretty clear :) | 17:24 |
| NobodyCam | so this spec needs to be re-worked | 17:24 |
| rloo | that seems fair enough. I see that jxiaobin is a new contributor so perhaps someone can spend a bit 'more time' than normal communicating/discussing with them? | 17:24 |
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| JayF | Anyone who was here for mid-cycle-alt in SF met them | 17:25 |
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| JayF | that's the group of folks from Ebay | 17:25 |
| * jroll touches his nose | 17:25 | |
| * JayF doesn't have the time | 17:25 | |
| * rloo thinks she understans jroll's reference... | 17:25 | |
| devananda | #agreed ironic should not cross the user-data/operator-control-plane boundary and start editing files within the user's instance directly; it must rely on existing APIs for that (eg, cloud-init) | 17:25 |
| NobodyCam | Ty devananda :) | 17:25 |
| JayF | rloo: touch nose = "not it" ... as in last person to touch their nose *is* it | 17:25 |
| jroll | rloo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose_goes | 17:25 |
| NobodyCam | ok is pshige here | 17:26 |
| rloo | jroll: i was wrong, i think (some) asians do that to refer to 'themself'. Ie, you're it. | 17:26 |
| jlvillal | NobodyCam: pshige stated not feeling well and skip to next week. According to agenda | 17:26 |
| NobodyCam | ya was just checking | 17:26 |
| NobodyCam | so next up is: | 17:27 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Should remainder of PEP8 compliance work be done? | 17:27 |
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| jroll | rloo: interesting, TIL :) | 17:27 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: thats you | 17:27 |
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| jlvillal | sambetts: Has started the work on this. | 17:27 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1421522 | 17:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1421522 in Ironic "Ironic code ignores all E12* pep8 errors" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 17:27 |
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| jroll | jlvillal: so I'm curious what E126,E127,E128 are | 17:27 |
| jlvillal | I just wanted to make sure that everyone is okay with it. As it will likely touch a lot of code | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | jroll, IIRC indentation | 17:27 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: http://pep8.readthedocs.org/en/latest/intro.html#error-codes | 17:28 |
| sambetts | E123 (*) closing bracket does not match indentation of opening bracket’s line | 17:28 |
| sambetts | E126 (*^) continuation line over-indented for hanging indent | 17:28 |
| sambetts | E127 (^) continuation line over-indented for visual indent | 17:28 |
| sambetts | E128 (^) continuation line under-indented for visual indent | 17:28 |
| jroll | I presonally hate the indentation rules | 17:28 |
| devananda | meh. I dont see any significant value in those | 17:28 |
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| NobodyCam | i would vote -1 for 128 | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | I hate the rules, but I hate when they're violated all over the place | 17:28 |
| devananda | there are a LOT of cases where readability is improved, IMNHSO, by ignoring those | 17:28 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ha ha, that doesn't make sense! | 17:28 |
| jroll | devananda: +1 | 17:28 |
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| jlvillal | I would vote for consistency and OpenStack states code should be PEP8 compliant | 17:28 |
| jroll | I also find I spend significant time tweaking things to fit those rules | 17:29 |
| devananda | eg, because line wrapping to 80 chars of some highly indented code would make one expression span a bagillion lines | 17:29 |
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| devananda | or three | 17:29 |
| devananda | either way it's too many | 17:29 |
| jlvillal | But I may be in minority :) | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | for the record: inspector never ignored any pep8 rules | 17:29 |
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| jlvillal | python-ironicclient is fully PEP8 compliant also. | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | so I'm generally on the positions of: rules might such, but they're rules | 17:29 |
| krtaylor | I don't see a problem with being pep8 compliant personally | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | s/such/suck/ | 17:30 |
| devananda | off hand, I think E128 is the one I would want to continue ignoring | 17:30 |
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| rloo | for the record, E129 isn't there cuz lucas? and I objected to it | 17:30 |
| devananda | I'm probably at fault for breaking E123 all over the place. hang over from my C / Perl days | 17:30 |
| NobodyCam | yea I'm okay will all but the 128.. | 17:31 |
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| devananda | tl;dr; do these rules improve readability when we follow them, or when we break them? | 17:31 |
| sambetts | the patches to fix 123, 6 7 and 8 are up for review, and I think there are several cases when it does improve the readablity of the code | 17:31 |
| devananda | hm | 17:31 |
| rloo | i looked at part of one of the patches, and it improved it for some cases | 17:31 |
| jlvillal | I think they improve readability for the most part. | 17:32 |
| devananda | ok then | 17:32 |
| NobodyCam | sambetts: can you #link them here for the record | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | I don't think we can see it does it for all cases. But in the aggregate... | 17:32 |
| devananda | and if the refactoring is already done, then yea, I'm for it. | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | s/see/say/ | 17:32 |
| devananda | it will cause some rebasing of other patches immediately -- better t oget that out of the way if we are going to enable these checks | 17:32 |
| sambetts | The top of the tree of patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186021/ | 17:32 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186021 | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | Did we make a final decision on E128? Yay or nay? | 17:33 |
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| NobodyCam | I'm good with what ever direction we want to go.. should we vote? | 17:33 |
| jlvillal | I think the patch is already doing E128 | 17:33 |
| rloo | isn't that the bottom of the tree of patches? (what is top vs bottom?) | 17:33 |
| jroll | if the works done, I'm fine with it | 17:33 |
| sambetts | rloo: yes, thats probably true | 17:34 |
| rloo | umm, i'm not fine with it w/o looking at it | 17:34 |
| jlvillal | First patch to review is 186021 as all the others depend on it. | 17:34 |
| devananda | #startvote should we enable E123,6,7,8 checks? yes, no, abstain | 17:34 |
| rloo | regardless if the work is done or not ;) | 17:34 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: should we enable E123,6,7,8 checks? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. | 17:34 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 17:34 |
| jlvillal | #vote yes | 17:34 |
| thiagop | #vote yes | 17:34 |
| devananda | #vote yes | 17:34 |
| NobodyCam | #vote yes | 17:34 |
| sambetts | #vote yes | 17:34 |
| rloo | why all or nothing? | 17:34 |
| BadCub | #vote abstain | 17:34 |
| devananda | rloo: you can abstain or vote no if you dont want all | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | #vote yes | 17:35 |
| afaranha | #vote yes | 17:35 |
| Nisha | #vote yes | 17:35 |
| rloo | #vote no | 17:35 |
| _lintan | #vote abstain | 17:35 |
| gabriel-bezerra | #vote abstain | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | #vote yes | 17:35 |
| clif_h | #vote no | 17:35 |
| cinerama | #vote abstain | 17:35 |
| jroll | #vote yes | 17:35 |
| natorious | #vote yes | 17:35 |
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| clif_h | I just don't like the continuation indent rules | 17:35 |
| devananda | giving it another minute | 17:36 |
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| devananda | or not - since it seems everyone is done voting now :) | 17:36 |
| devananda | #endvote | 17:36 |
| openstack | Voted on "should we enable E123,6,7,8 checks?" Results are | 17:36 |
| openstack | yes (11): TheJulia, NobodyCam, jlvillal, afaranha, devananda, jroll, dtantsur, Nisha, natorious, sambetts, thiagop | 17:36 |
| openstack | abstain (4): cinerama, BadCub, _lintan, gabriel-bezerra | 17:36 |
| openstack | no (2): rloo, clif_h | 17:36 |
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| clif_h | I think the ayes have it | 17:37 |
| devananda | we've got 1 core voting no, 1 core abstaining | 17:37 |
| devananda | 4 cores voting yes | 17:37 |
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| devananda | and overall a lot more support for yes | 17:37 |
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| NobodyCam | yep | 17:37 |
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| devananda | #agreed enable E 123,6,7,8 checks | 17:37 |
| rloo | (who's the core that abstained?) | 17:37 |
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| devananda | rloo: oops! I misread. we have no cores abstaining | 17:38 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 17:38 |
| NobodyCam | ok moving on | 17:38 |
| * BadCub hands devananda more coffee | 17:38 | |
| NobodyCam | #topic Ironic Mid-Cycle Sprint | 17:38 |
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| NobodyCam | I think is is BadCub | 17:38 |
| devananda | BadCub: thanks. remind me to never sit in a casino while trying to pay attention to IRC again | 17:38 |
| BadCub | Yep | 17:38 |
| BadCub | devananda: lol noted! | 17:38 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 17:38 |
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| BadCub | So folks. Sprint.... Seattle work for everyone? | 17:39 |
| jroll | ok so, "It's near the feature freeze. It might be a little late." <- first question, do we want to change release models this cycle or next | 17:39 |
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| * NobodyCam hands deva some $$$ for the closest slot machine | 17:39 | |
| jroll | I'm +1 on seattle though | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | devananda: when they ask for your drink order, ask for coffee :) | 17:39 |
| jlvillal | Works for me, but I will be in Moscow for all of July.... | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | +1 on seattle | 17:39 |
| BadCub | devananda: advised he would get in touch with facilities at HP | 17:39 |
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| devananda | I've pinged the local facilities mgr, but no answer yet | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | north america does not work for me, so abstain on seattle :) | 17:39 |
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| * jlvillal assumes he will get visa.... | 17:39 | |
| devananda | dtantsur: france didn't work for you last time, either :( | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: You can come to Moscow and we can have mini-sprint ;) | 17:40 |
| NobodyCam | jlvillal: visa's from protlanda are hard to get I hear | 17:40 |
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| jroll | s/protlanda/portlandia | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | devananda, yes, you can safely assume that generally midcycles do not work for me :) in EU there are some (small) chances though... | 17:40 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:40 |
| BadCub | So what about timing? devananda proposed 12-14 Aug, but that is close to freeze | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | Is there a date range? | 17:41 |
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| jroll | so I ask again, are we having a freeze this cycle? | 17:41 |
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| jroll | read: switching release models this cycle or next? | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | jroll, I was assuming we follow our new model | 17:41 |
| jroll | me too, which means freeze doesn't exist :) | 17:41 |
| devananda | fwiw, I'm looking at dates of Aug 12 - 14, which is the week before LinuxCon / CloudOpen in Seattle | 17:41 |
| BadCub | I have a secondary discussion item about spec review freeze later as well | 17:41 |
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| devananda | http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-north-america/extend-the-experience/co-located-events | 17:41 |
| jlvillal | +1 on dates and location | 17:41 |
| rloo | did we decide for sure to use new release model? thought it was still in proposal stage | 17:42 |
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| dtantsur | BadCub, I thought that in a new model we don't have spec freeze, but maybe it's only me :) | 17:42 |
| jroll | rloo: we all (soft?) voted on it in vancouver, I was under the assumption this was an informational spec | 17:42 |
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| NobodyCam | jroll: I would like to land: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185171 | 17:42 |
| JayF | fwiw 8/12-8/14 I wouldn't be able to attend; but I'm OK with that | 17:42 |
| jroll | rloo: I don't see disagreement on the list either | 17:42 |
| gabriel-bezerra | dtantsur: I thought that too | 17:42 |
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| rloo | jroll: give me a day or two... | 17:42 |
| BadCub | dtantsur: yeah, I put it up there for us to confirm that we are going to follow new model | 17:42 |
| cinerama | that is ok for me i think | 17:42 |
| devananda | on the topic of release cycle / freeze / etc -- I dont know yet. I'd *like* to not do a feature freeze, *but* we are somewhat dependent on how far the community gets in changing the release models | 17:43 |
| devananda | adapting their release tooling to support it | 17:43 |
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| jroll | NobodyCam: same. | 17:43 |
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| jroll | NobodyCam: needs some updates, I'll get to that this week | 17:43 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: +++ | 17:43 |
| devananda | so far, it looks like dhellmann is on the ball with all that, and ttx has already announced changes to how we'll track/report on release cycle progress | 17:43 |
| devananda | so, it looks possible (if not likely) that it'll happen this cycle | 17:43 |
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| dtantsur | which means we're having a release soonish :) | 17:44 |
| devananda | dtantsur: eh? | 17:44 |
| BadCub | so [assuming] we will follow the new model. Is everyone good with 12-14 Aug in Seattle? | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | we decided to have intermediate releases | 17:44 |
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| jlvillal | vote? | 17:44 |
| devananda | dtantsur: sure. but "soonish" - I dont know where that came from | 17:44 |
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| dtantsur | my speculations | 17:45 |
| BadCub | Vote would be good | 17:45 |
| devananda | voting on? | 17:45 |
| NobodyCam | dates? | 17:45 |
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| BadCub | devananda: sprint date/location | 17:45 |
| BadCub | NobodyCam: 12-14 Aug | 17:45 |
| rloo | not everyone can attend these meetings. | 17:45 |
| rloo | seems odd to be voting on the date | 17:45 |
| devananda | oh. yea. not something to vote on here | 17:45 |
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| jroll | to the list! | 17:45 |
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| BadCub | Okay, then I will [assume] that 12-14 Aug in Seattle is good and move forward | 17:46 |
| * jlvillal forgets about the mailing list at times. His life is only about IRC.... | 17:46 | |
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| devananda | quick question for folks re: dates | 17:46 |
| NobodyCam | ok so we'll move on and maybe get thru the whole agenda | 17:47 |
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| NobodyCam | waiting | 17:47 |
| devananda | regadless of release models, who would prefer a date sooner than aug 12? | 17:47 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: I am good with +/- a week | 17:47 |
| jroll | mmm, actually. I might be out of town aug 13-16 :/ | 17:47 |
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| devananda | I mean like a month earlier | 17:48 |
| jroll | go without me if that's the best date but I'd like to be there if possible | 17:48 |
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| jlvillal | I would prefer anytime after 4-Aug. As I would not be able to attend in July. | 17:48 |
| jroll | devananda: sounds like we need a doodle thing on dates | 17:48 |
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| devananda | yea ... sounds like we need a poll | 17:48 |
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| rloo | at the summit, there was discussion about trying to colocate with another project (or at least have ironic liaisons at other projects) | 17:49 |
| devananda | #action devananda to post a poll for midcycle dates | 17:49 |
| BadCub | then let's do a poll so we can get a consensus that works for as many as possible. | 17:49 |
| rloo | maybe 'discussion' is too strong. more like 'mention' | 17:49 |
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| jroll | rloo: +1 for liasions | 17:49 |
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| NobodyCam | we'll need a list of where / when the other mid cycles are | 17:50 |
| jroll | we have two topics left, should we agree to poll and move on? | 17:50 |
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| devananda | rloo: IIRC, we said colocating with nova might be good, and we should try to cross-pollinate with cinder and neutron | 17:50 |
| NobodyCam | yep moving on :) | 17:50 |
| devananda | ++ to moving on | 17:50 |
| NobodyCam | #topic capabilities | 17:50 |
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| NobodyCam | Nisha: are you here | 17:50 |
| Nisha | NobodyCam, yeah | 17:50 |
| NobodyCam | (links on agenda item) | 17:51 |
| Nisha | i wanted to know the discussion on capabilities | 17:51 |
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| jroll | has there been discussion on it? | 17:51 |
| jroll | I haven't see any | 17:51 |
| Nisha | even devananda mail on summit update doesnt list any update on it | 17:51 |
| Nisha | i heard some discussion did happened at summit | 17:51 |
| Nisha | but not sure whats the conslusion | 17:52 |
| devananda | outside of the nova scheduler sessions, I didn't see any discussions at the summit even related to this | 17:52 |
| gabriel-bezerra | we had some discussions about flavors extra_specs that sounded like capabilites. | 17:52 |
| jroll | the discussions I had on it were "when are we doing capabilities" | 17:52 |
| devananda | there was a similar spec proposed by thiagop (i think) for adding a "passthrough" to nova flavors, which got heavily -2'd | 17:52 |
| jroll | from approximately 9001 people | 17:52 |
| devananda | perhaps because of the name | 17:52 |
| gabriel-bezerra | #link https://review.openstack.org/186536 | 17:53 |
| devananda | but it is, in principle, trying to achieve the same thing: pass some flavor data down to Ironic so that the driver can act upon it | 17:53 |
| Nisha | devananda, ok...so how do we want to deal with capabilities for ironic | 17:53 |
| devananda | gabriel-bezerra: thanks! | 17:53 |
| gabriel-bezerra | devananda: np | 17:53 |
| Nisha | devananda, that is done still, correct? | 17:54 |
| devananda | Nisha: so one problem with this work is that Nova is (still....) trying to refactor and split out the scheduler | 17:54 |
| gabriel-bezerra | I'll discuss with johnthetubaguy and dansmith about that later though | 17:54 |
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| wanyen | There were some discussion about by-pass flavors. Nisha Imentione dyour nova/capability specs at one of the break-out session but I don't think we made any conclusion. | 17:54 |
| devananda | so they are resisting anything which changes how the scheduler works | 17:54 |
| devananda | it's quite frustrating for me as well. BUT. I've proposed to Nova an alternative approach, which is basically that we create a new plugin for the scheduler that queries Ironic's REST API directly | 17:54 |
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| NobodyCam | so maybe better to wait until they finish their refactor | 17:54 |
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| jlvillal | 5 minutes | 17:55 |
| devananda | to do that, we need to implement a queriable endpoint, with filtering abilities, and probably do some table refactoring | 17:55 |
| Nisha | NobodyCam, that may be too late for us to get anything in Nova | 17:55 |
| jroll | "wait on nova" is always sad | 17:55 |
| devananda | I haven't written this anywhere yet | 17:55 |
| rloo | any idea on when that refactor might happen? earliest is M (my guess) | 17:55 |
| Nisha | in liberty | 17:55 |
| dansmith | don't count on it :) | 17:55 |
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| dansmith | I don't think this is completely wrapped up in the scheduler, FWIW | 17:55 |
| dansmith | the concerns are more fundamental than that, | 17:55 |
| devananda | so first step is probably for me to write a spec on what dansmith and mikal and I talked about, as far as the API in Ironic and the Nova scheduler changes to use it | 17:55 |
| dansmith | which means the "good news" is we can discuss it separate from that I think | 17:55 |
| gabriel-bezerra | I was in the design session about refactoring flavors extra_specs. I can see the intention/the pain point but could not see agreement there. | 17:56 |
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| devananda | dansmith: oh? | 17:56 |
| NobodyCam | dansmith: awesome | 17:56 |
| clif_h | are we going to have an open discussion before the hour runs out? | 17:56 |
| NobodyCam | we have one more topic on the agenda | 17:56 |
| devananda | dansmith: Ah. Nova's idea of a flavor == find the thing I want, != make the thing I want magically appear | 17:57 |
| devananda | yes? | 17:57 |
| devananda | blah. time. let's open it up and continue this afterwards | 17:57 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Open Discussion / Food For Thought | 17:57 |
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| jroll | 2 minutes :P | 17:57 |
| jroll | clif_h: whatcha got | 17:57 |
| clif_h | I humbly request eyes on | 17:57 |
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| clif_h | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161832/ | 17:57 |
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| NobodyCam | there is also a item for spec review cut off date | 17:57 |
| jroll | yay caching. | 17:58 |
| clif_h | image caching patch | 17:58 |
| BadCub | NobodyCam: if we are following the new model, that wont be applicable | 17:58 |
| jroll | BadCub: sow ith the new release model, do we need a spec freeze? (or is that your question?) | 17:58 |
| NobodyCam | ack! | 17:58 |
| clif_h | has come a long way and appears to work well with arsenal | 17:58 |
| dansmith | devananda: I dunno that either of those is really correct anymore | 17:58 |
| dansmith | but anyway | 17:58 |
| devananda | clif_h: image caching ++ | 17:58 |
| clif_h | although its not in production downstream just yet | 17:58 |
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| NobodyCam | *one minute* | 17:59 |
| rloo | BadCub: shouldn't your question be addressed/added in jroll's spec about the new release model? | 17:59 |
| BadCub | jroll: not really, my only concern is the Cores are not overwhelmed with reviews, etc. | 17:59 |
| jroll | BadCub: I think the freeze is what overwhelms us | 17:59 |
| devananda | dansmith: I'm probably out of touch. happy to learn if you'd like to clarify what the current model is | 17:59 |
| BadCub | rloo: indeed it should. I think we need to come to the consensus on what our release model will be moving forward. | 17:59 |
| NobodyCam | and thats time... | 18:00 |
| dansmith | devananda: I mean that with things like numa, there's some of "find what I want" in addition to "create what I want" | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | thank you all | 18:00 |
| dansmith | even for virt | 18:00 |
| jroll | thanks err'body | 18:00 |
| devananda | BadCub: others: please discuss release model (concerns) on the mailing list and/or the spec | 18:00 |
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| devananda | thanks all! good meeting | 18:00 |
| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 1 18:00:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-06-01-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-06-01-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2015/ironic.2015-06-01-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| gabriel-bezerra | dansmith, devananda: might we continue that discussion about the flavors somewhere? #openstack-ironic, #openstack-nova? | 18:01 |
| devananda | in -nova | 18:02 |
| gabriel-bezerra | thanks | 18:02 |
| puranamr | o/ | 18:03 |
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| flaper87 | vkmc: flwang dynarro around ? | 20:54 |
| vkmc | flaper87, o/ | 20:54 |
| flaper87 | cool, ~6mins | 20:54 |
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| flaper87 | just want to make sure you are around | 20:54 |
| flaper87 | :D | 20:54 |
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| flaper87 | #startmeeting Zaqar | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 1 21:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zaqar' | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | WHAT'S UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP PEOPLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ???????????????????????????????????????????????????? | 21:00 |
| * flaper87 super excited | 21:00 | |
| flaper87 | vkmc: dynarro flwang ? | 21:00 |
| dynarro | \o/ | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | our agenda for today | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda | 21:00 |
| kragniz | sup! | 21:01 |
| sriram | o/ | 21:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | helloooo there :) | 21:01 |
| * flaper87 overwhelmed | 21:01 | |
| * sigmavirus24 lurks like kragniz | 21:01 | |
| flaper87 | y'all welcome | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: we recruited kragniz | 21:01 |
| kragniz | sigmavirus24: I lurk better than you lurk | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | he doesn't know yet | 21:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: sounds legit | 21:01 |
| * sigmavirus24 waves to vkmc | 21:01 | |
| flaper87 | #topic Summit Feedback | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit Feedback (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:01 | |
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| flaper87 | vkmc: want to start? | 21:02 |
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| * flaper87 throws cold water on vkmc's face | 21:02 | |
| flaper87 | wake up girl! | 21:02 |
| vkmc | whaaaaaa | 21:02 |
| vkmc | sorry | 21:02 |
| flaper87 | Now you know what we, Europeans, suffer with this meetings. | 21:02 |
| vkmc | hi! | 21:02 |
| flaper87 | these* | 21:02 |
| * vkmc waves | 21:03 | |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: don't be so dramatic. =P | 21:03 |
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| flaper87 | vkmc: feedback from the summit? Anything you want to share to start with? | 21:03 |
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| vkmc | ha! it was a pretty interesting summit | 21:03 |
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| sigmavirus24 | there there | 21:03 |
| vkmc | we had great sessions with people working on Sahara and Heat | 21:03 |
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| ryansb | glad we could help :) | 21:04 |
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| ryansb | sooo, meeting? | 21:08 |
| kragniz | rip our brave leaders | 21:08 |
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| ryansb | time for anarchy then | 21:09 |
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| ryansb | ¯\_ツ_/¯ | 21:10 |
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| vkmc | netsplit | 21:11 |
| ryansb | welcome back | 21:11 |
| vkmc | thx | 21:12 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, netsplit! | 21:12 |
| flaper87 | knock? | 21:12 |
| flaper87 | sorry, connection | 21:12 |
| flaper87 | :( | 21:12 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 21:12 |
| flaper87 | what was the last message you got ? | 21:12 |
| * flaper87 checks logs | 21:13 | |
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| vkmc | I was updating folks about the summit, not sure if those reached the other end | 21:13 |
| flaper87 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064739.html | 21:13 |
| ryansb | flaper87: feedback from summit? Anything you want to share to start with?" | 21:13 |
| flaper87 | for people reading logs, that's the discussion on the mailing list | 21:13 |
| ryansb | last I saw | 21:13 |
| flaper87 | It was indeed a very interesting summit... As vkmc said, there were quite a few sessions with people from other projects | 21:13 |
| flaper87 | these sessions - as we wanted - ended up in action items that - unlike other summits - are actually being worked on | 21:13 |
| flaper87 | That's great news for the project and it means we'll keep spending time on it | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | if anyone tries to bail out on the project, I'll .... actually... you know what's going to happen | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | that's the overall summary from me | 21:14 |
| vkmc | lol | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | I'm quite happy with the result | 21:14 |
| flaper87 | anyone wants to add something? otherwise we can get to the actual plans/items | 21:14 |
| vkmc | plans/items \o/ | 21:15 |
| ryansb | + | 21:15 |
| ryansb | +1 | 21:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | ++1 does nothing ryansb | 21:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | at least not in C =P | 21:15 |
| dynarro | let's go on! | 21:16 |
| ryansb | sigmavirus24: works in gerrit | 21:16 |
| vkmc | haha | 21:17 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, ? | 21:18 |
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| dynarro | netsplit again, I guess | 21:20 |
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| flaper87 | fuck this shit | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | #topic Liberty specs and plans | 21:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty specs and plans (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:21 | |
| flaper87 | no idea what's going on | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | but really, fuck this shit | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/zaqar-specs,n,z | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | those are our specs so far... There are some missing but I believe their priority is lower | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | flwang is not around :( | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | anyway, lets start with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185951/ | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | dynarro: anything you want to say/add ? | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | I think it's a no-brainer and we should let her work on that (will do proper introductions at the end) | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: any comments on that one? | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | I suggested moving websockets out of there | 21:22 |
| flaper87 | since that's not an API change but rather a complete different protocol | 21:22 |
| vkmc | yeah, that would make sense | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | s/would make/makes/ | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:23 |
| vkmc | haha | 21:23 |
| dynarro | yeah, flaper87 I've changed those things you told me | 21:23 |
| vkmc | the specs looks good to me as is now | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | ok, since netty netty is shitty shitty lets move on to the next one before I get kicked out again | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: agreed | 21:23 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: pls, +2 and I'll approve later | 21:24 |
| vkmc | certainly the client needs some love :) | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186346/ | 21:24 |
| vkmc | thanks dynarro for writting the spec! | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: oh yeah! | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | dynarro: danke | 21:24 |
| dynarro | np! | 21:24 |
| dynarro | :) | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | So, that one is simple too. Just a backlog dir so that people not interested in working on features can still propose them | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | it should be an easier way to get proposals from other folks | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | that's more like a heads up :P | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186345/ | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | ok, that's one of the juicy ones for this cycle | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | It's for pre-signed URLs | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | In a gist, pre-signed URLs will grant access to external - therefore unauthenticated - users to some resources in Zaqar | 21:26 |
| ryansb | flaper87: I had a thought on that: would project-scoped tempurls make any sense? | 21:26 |
| ryansb | to grant access to, say, a group of queues? | 21:26 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: mmh, in that case, I'd rather have a shared user with a limited role | 21:27 |
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| ryansb | I see; just a thought | 21:27 |
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| flaper87 | not a crazy one, though. | 21:27 |
| flaper87 | It'd probably be easier once we have policy and the bases of pre-signed URLs | 21:27 |
| ryansb | fajr | 21:28 |
| * flaper87 just noticed ryansb and therve have commented on the spec | 21:28 | |
| ryansb | *fair enough | 21:28 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: thanks for taking the time | 21:28 |
| flaper87 | I'll read the comments tomorrow and address them | 21:28 |
| flaper87 | That said, I'm curious to know if vkmc, dynarro and/or flwang (who's not here) have questions regarding the feature | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | (or ryansb, or anyone) | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:29 |
| vkmc | I don't have any question regarding the feature, I should reread the spec | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | The main usecase is to allow these users/services - say a guest-agent - to access those resources without too much magic | 21:29 |
| vkmc | I'd like to read, though, how is the Heat use case specifically | 21:30 |
| vkmc | if its somewhere :) | 21:30 |
| ryansb | vkmc: for the signed urls? | 21:30 |
| ryansb | that one isn't written down afaik | 21:30 |
| ryansb | it's more or less "send a tempurl to a client so we can send it messages" | 21:30 |
| vkmc | ryansb, to manage Heat resources? | 21:30 |
| ryansb | no, to have clients (like cloud-init/heat-cfntools) on nodes be able to have messages sent to them without polling heat directly | 21:31 |
| ryansb | so when heat creates a server, it can fire the data off to the zaqar queue for that client, and the client picks it up when it boots | 21:32 |
| vkmc | oh cool | 21:32 |
| flaper87 | In addition to that, Sahara and Murano are looking forward to use this feature for their guest-agents | 21:32 |
| ryansb | there's the other use case for heat, which is sending events like "your stack is done" or "this resource blew up" to users without polling heat | 21:32 |
| ryansb | tl;dr: we want to stop having people poll us so much | 21:32 |
| vkmc | that makes sense | 21:32 |
| vkmc | thanks ryansb | 21:32 |
| * flaper87 read to day a proposal for "Efficient polling" | 21:33 | |
| * flaper87 -> head -> desk | 21:33 | |
| vkmc | haha | 21:33 |
| ryansb | lol | 21:33 |
| flaper87 | anyway... moving on | 21:33 |
| ryansb | at least they didn't say "low-latency polling" | 21:33 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179673/ (Policy) | 21:33 |
| flaper87 | flwang proposed this before the summit | 21:33 |
| flaper87 | It follows pretty much what other openstack projects do w.r.t policies | 21:33 |
| flaper87 | It proposes adopting oslo.policy and adding a policy.json | 21:34 |
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| flaper87 | I'd be happy to have this for several reasons. Besides having policies, I've been also thinking how to extend them in a per-queue basis | 21:34 |
| flaper87 | call me crazy but even in a per-message basis | 21:34 |
| flaper87 | but one step at a time | 21:34 |
| vkmc | hm | 21:34 |
| flaper87 | I'll be writing those thoughts down this week | 21:35 |
| vkmc | seems you like policies | 21:35 |
| flaper87 | so we can start brainstorming over a spec | 21:35 |
| ryansb | per-message sounds a little crazy | 21:35 |
| ryansb | but per queue/project would be great | 21:35 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: no, I just don't like people reading my messages | 21:35 |
| vkmc | ryansb, +1 | 21:35 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:35 |
| vkmc | flaper87, lol | 21:35 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: yeah, that'd be the first step | 21:35 |
| flaper87 | I think I have a good proposal | 21:36 |
| flaper87 | anyway | 21:36 |
| flaper87 | does anyone have objections/thoughts on that spec ? | 21:36 |
| flaper87 | I nitpicked on it today | 21:36 |
| flaper87 | but other than that, it seems pretty straight-forward | 21:36 |
| vkmc | no right now, will review tomorrow | 21:36 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: why didn't you read the specs *before* the meeting? ah? ah? ah? | 21:37 |
| * flaper87 sent a meeting invitation a week ago | 21:37 | |
| vkmc | flaper87, I got lost on debugging other stuff | 21:37 |
| vkmc | the day just... happened | 21:37 |
| vkmc | and I didn't notice | 21:37 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: it's aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalways the same excuse | 21:37 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:37 |
| * flaper87 hugs vkmc | 21:37 | |
| vkmc | hahaha | 21:37 |
| dynarro | lol | 21:37 |
| vkmc | I'll review tomorrow, I promise | 21:37 |
| flaper87 | yeah right... Send me some gummybears while you are at it | 21:38 |
| vkmc | sure sure | 21:38 |
| flaper87 | anyway, that's all spec wise | 21:38 |
| flaper87 | actually, I lied | 21:38 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: I'll get to your websocket review soon | 21:39 |
| flaper87 | however, It'd be amazing to complete that spec during liberty | 21:39 |
| vkmc | flaper87, sounds good! | 21:39 |
| flaper87 | you'll have to propose it for liberty | 21:39 |
| flaper87 | I guess moving it and adding a history should be enough | 21:39 |
| vkmc | yeah, I'd like to have up to claims in liberty 1 | 21:39 |
| flaper87 | I've seen Nova folks doing so | 21:39 |
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| vkmc | we need to discuss what to do with pools, flavors | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | Also, another missing spec (shaifali said she's going to work on that) is the tests refactor | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | I need to triple-check what's her time commitment | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: agreed, lets get the data plane out of the way | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | .. first | 21:40 |
| vkmc | sounds good | 21:40 |
| vkmc | so I'll propose the spec for liberty then | 21:41 |
| vkmc | and rebase the messages patch for websockets | 21:41 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: just make sure you don't endup debugging rst for a day | 21:41 |
| flaper87 | ok ? | 21:41 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:41 |
| vkmc | I cannot promise that | 21:41 |
| * flaper87 hides from vkmc punches | 21:41 | |
| vkmc | haha | 21:41 |
| flaper87 | ok, now, that's really it spec wise | 21:42 |
| flaper87 | #topic clean ups | 21:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "clean ups (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:42 | |
| flaper87 | There are several clean ups to do in the codebase | 21:42 |
| flaper87 | For instance, we still have old sqlalchemy models around | 21:42 |
| flaper87 | I'll be dedicating time to some of those clean ups but I'll sure file bugs when I find them | 21:43 |
| flaper87 | if someone shows up looking for something to do, you know where to look | 21:43 |
| flaper87 | We also need to add an env var for zigo so he can run tests | 21:43 |
| flaper87 | It's not as straightforward as I thought | 21:43 |
| flaper87 | since we're using config files for our tests | 21:43 |
| ryansb | shouldn't env vars override config files? | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | I proposed him to use sed but I never heard back from him. I think he just rage-quited and ran away | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: yeah, it's just the way these tests are structured that makes it hard | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | unfortunately, we ended up having mongdb:// urls everywhere | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | because we used to have sqlite://:memory: there | 21:45 |
| ryansb | ah :/ | 21:45 |
| flaper87 | That was a mistake that we need to fix somehow | 21:45 |
| vkmc | maybe we could use mongo mock for that? | 21:45 |
| vkmc | in the long term | 21:45 |
| flaper87 | especially requesting mongodb for unittests, which is not ideal | 21:45 |
| flaper87 | I looked into mongomock and I'm afraid that it may not support all the features we need | 21:45 |
| flaper87 | :/ | 21:45 |
| flaper87 | We use many things from mongo | 21:46 |
| vkmc | oh hmm | 21:46 |
| flaper87 | here's my thought re-tests | 21:46 |
| flaper87 | Once they are merged, we should just let devs choose what they want to test against (redis/mongodb) and then have our gates as we have them | 21:46 |
| flaper87 | (by merged I mean the work shaifali is going to do) | 21:47 |
| flaper87 | And move all tests requesting running dbs to `functional` where they belong | 21:47 |
| flaper87 | In other words, Shaifali has a lot of work | 21:47 |
| flaper87 | anyway, 10 mins left | 21:48 |
| vkmc | we probably can divide some work on that side | 21:48 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: yeah | 21:49 |
| flaper87 | I think we'll have to wait for the merge to happen, though | 21:49 |
| flaper87 | just to have a clearer view of how the tests structure will look like | 21:49 |
| vkmc | yeah, certainly | 21:49 |
| flaper87 | at the very least, we should wait for the spec | 21:49 |
| flaper87 | that said, I agree | 21:49 |
| flaper87 | we should split that | 21:49 |
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| flaper87 | We can ask dynarro to do 99.9 % of the work and we do the remaining 0.1% | 21:50 |
| dynarro | whaaaat!!! | 21:50 |
| vkmc | +1 flaper87 | 21:50 |
| vkmc | oh hi dynarro | 21:50 |
| dynarro | haha | 21:50 |
| flaper87 | dynarro: oh you're here? oooooooops ? | 21:50 |
| flaper87 | oh well | 21:50 |
| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 21:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Zaqar)" | 21:50 | |
| flaper87 | As usual, I'd like to welcome our new mentee | 21:51 |
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| flaper87 | We've a record, we've been mentoring Outreachy mentees every cycle | 21:51 |
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| flaper87 | and I'm proud of us | 21:51 |
| flaper87 | In this cycle, dynarro will be our mentee | 21:51 |
| dynarro | \o/ | 21:51 |
| vkmc | welcome dynarro! | 21:51 |
| flaper87 | and I'd like to thank vkmc for stepping up as a mentor in this cycle | 21:51 |
| * angvp claps | 21:51 | |
| vkmc | happy to have you on board :) | 21:51 |
| ryansb | welcome! | 21:51 |
| flaper87 | angvp: oh look showed up just when we finished splitting the work | 21:52 |
| flaper87 | .... | 21:52 |
| dynarro | haha | 21:52 |
| flaper87 | so, really. Welcome, dynarro | 21:52 |
| flaper87 | we're all excited to have you and you better do a great job or we'll never like you again | 21:52 |
| flaper87 | EVER! | 21:52 |
| flaper87 | >.> | 21:52 |
| dynarro | thanks! I'm SO happy to be part of it! | 21:52 |
| dynarro | hahaha | 21:53 |
| vkmc | dynarro, you know you are doomed, right? you won't be able to leave Zaqar, ever! | 21:53 |
| dynarro | hahaha....I know... | 21:53 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to also thank all the folks that participated in sessions at the summit.... If you were here, I'd mention you but I guess ryansb will take all the credits this time | 21:54 |
| flaper87 | :) | 21:54 |
| ryansb | woo | 21:54 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: thanks for all your amazing feedback... We look forward to see tons of patches landing everywhere | 21:54 |
| ryansb | Also, during the summit we talked a bit about using swift as a backend for zaqar. So far, I have the basic (post/get/delete) flow working and I'll probably post a review later in the week | 21:54 |
| flaper87 | (patches related to Zaqar, we don't care about the rest) | 21:54 |
| angvp | flaper87 vkmc ok, i can help dynarro with 0.1% of the work too :P | 21:54 |
| vkmc | ryansb, that's great! | 21:54 |
| ryansb | heh, yeah. Hoping to get some zaqar stuff into L1-heat | 21:54 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: wow, sweet, niiiiiiiiiiiiiice! | 21:54 |
| flaper87 | I'd love to see that backend | 21:54 |
| dynarro | angvp: hahaha thanks | 21:55 |
| ryansb | currently I sort of hacked it, I'm still using redis for the management store | 21:55 |
| ryansb | but my eventual hope is to do sqlalchemy for management and swift for all the queues/messages | 21:55 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: that's ideal | 21:55 |
| flaper87 | any reason why you're not using sqla already ? | 21:55 |
| ryansb | because I tried it briefly and got an indecipherable error message | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | Redis will work until you try to create a pool in it (since it's not supported :P) | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: mmh, ok, I'll give it a try and fix whatever is broken there | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | angvp: actually, you do it | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:56 |
| ryansb | it may have been due to operator (me) error | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | ohhh, it's always ops fault | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:57 |
| ryansb | only when I'm the operator ;) | 21:57 |
| ryansb | in any case, pools shouldn't be needed for swift | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: btw, are you developing it in the code base? or as an external plugin ? | 21:57 |
| ryansb | since the scaling/storage is all handled in swift, no need for us to wrap an API | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | you know you can have it as a third-party plugin, right ? | 21:57 |
| ryansb | I'm doing it in the code base, I didn't feel like messing around to make it a plugin | 21:58 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: but you may want to have swift+redis in the data-plane and you'll need pools in that case | 21:58 |
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| ryansb | hrm. maybe | 21:58 |
| flaper87 | pools are not just to scale the same storage type | 21:58 |
| flaper87 | that's what I wanted to say | 21:58 |
| flaper87 | not that you really need that combination | 21:58 |
| ryansb | yeah, I see now | 21:58 |
| flaper87 | ryansb: Thanks for hacking on that | 21:58 |
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| flaper87 | ryansb: has it been hard to implement ? | 21:59 |
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| flaper87 | (I mean form a Zaqar's perspective) | 21:59 |
| ryansb | not so far, but there are a lot of things I haven't done yet (claims) | 21:59 |
| flaper87 | gotcha, those might be messy | 21:59 |
| flaper87 | ok, we ran out of time :) | 21:59 |
| ryansb | ah. Well I ran out of implementation :) | 21:59 |
| * ryansb moves back to #zaqar | 22:00 | |
| flaper87 | Next week we'll have the meeting at this same time and the week after we'll be back to our alternate | 22:00 |
| flaper87 | .. schedule | 22:00 |
| vkmc | cool! | 22:00 |
| flaper87 | THANKS ALL! | 22:00 |
| flaper87 | LONG LIVE ZAQAR! | 22:00 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| vkmc | I'll update the wiki with the minutes + times | 22:00 |
| dynarro | LRIGHT | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 1 22:00:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| vkmc | thanks all! | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-06-01-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-06-01-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zaqar/2015/zaqar.2015-06-01-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
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