Monday, 2015-06-08

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j^2ping15:52
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j^2nice15:55
j^2double checking i was still connected to15:55
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j^2#startmeeting openstack-chef16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun  8 16:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is j^2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef'16:00
j^2hey everyone!16:00
j^2our agenda is located here:16:00
jklarehey16:00
j^2#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-chef-meeting-2015060816:00
sc`howdy16:00
j^2i’ll give everyone a couple mins to join16:01
j^2the agenda is pretty packed too, and markvan iirc isn’t going to be here either16:01
j^2ok16:03
j^2#topic Announcements16:03
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j^2just to make sure everyone knows16:03
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j^2in the cross project meeting last week, there is going to be 3 guides written for liberty16:04
j^2install guide, cloud admin guide, and ha guide16:04
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j^2anyone have anything else?16:05
jklarenope16:05
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j^2#topic Previous Business16:05
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j^2sc`: can you fill us in on the status of c7?16:05
sc`i'm able to converge with the addition of the rdo-manager repos, which eliminates the need to modify the roles. there's still a packaging issue ongoing16:06
sc`that also uncovered issues with mariadb16:07
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sc`specifically, the service name on c7 is 'mariadb' instead of 'mysql', and /var/log/mysql doesn't get the correct permissions applied, resulting in an error where mariadb can't write out the binlogs16:09
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sc`the additional repos that needed to be added to openstack-common are at https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rdo-management/rdo-manager-release/master/rdo-manager-release.repo16:10
j^2nice16:10
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j^2any way we can add a review in to do a ohai check and put in the correct repo?16:11
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sc`there has been discussions of doing away with the midstream repos, but currently that's where patches yet-to-be-upstreamed land16:11
j^2boooo16:11
j^2ok, thanks16:12
j^2we’ll skip marks update on libvirt16:12
sc`we can add them in, but there's no gpg validation on the midstream repos16:12
j^2but i did want to aks about 15.0416:12
j^2thoughts?16:12
jklarewe are working on 15.0416:13
jklarebecause it has systemd and gets all the updates16:13
jklarebut thats basically it16:13
jklarei think if we want to fix the libvirt issue, we need to add the -updates repo16:13
j^2nice16:14
jklarenot sure when libvirt 1.2.12 will be ported to trusty16:14
j^2cool, but we might work on 15.04, but offically announce it i think is what i was more looking at16:14
jklarei think one of the issues with 15.04 would be the integration testing part16:15
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jklaresince we want to use the infra nodes16:15
j^2true16:15
jklareand those only run 14.0416:15
jklarewhich is fine, since 15.04 is not an lts release16:15
j^2yep16:15
jklareso i dont think we should necessarily jump on it16:15
jklarebut rather try to pull in some repos if needed16:15
j^2works for me.16:16
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j^2do we have the steps required or at least something mapped out on how to get 15.04 working?16:17
jklarei will try to push the stuff we have upstream16:17
j^2rock on16:17
j^2#topic fauxhai16:18
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j^2so sc` i know you have so issues with this16:18
j^2i bounced around internal chef asking about getting a new gem pushed16:18
j^2everyone came back to me saying that it should just pull the .json from github if it can’t find it locally16:18
j^2(for 7.1.json that is)16:19
j^2i said it’s not working how we expect, and we had to put that hack in16:19
sc`it should and does, but not without the hack that already exists, which is suboptimal16:19
j^2:(16:20
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j^2yeah it seems we cant do anything other than give an extremely compelling reason to convince seth to push another gem16:20
j^2if we want to put our case on that issue, he’s willing to listen16:20
j^2#link https://github.com/customink/fauxhai/issues/14116:21
jklareor we can pull in the gem from a commit we consider stable16:21
j^2but chef doenst control that gem, we are at the whims of Seth16:21
jklarenot sure if thats better than our workaround16:21
j^2yeah me neither16:22
j^2table this till we have more people?16:22
sc`the only benefit i see from pushing a new gem would be to not have to run fauxhai as root16:22
j^2which is just wrong anyway16:23
jklarechef could also release a new version of chefdk including a fixed fauxhai version16:24
jklarethis way, at least everybody with chefdk would not need a workaround16:24
jklarebut that would also mean that chefdk contains a gem version thats not released yet16:24
sc`still suboptimal :(16:25
j^2yeah chefdk’s versions and keeping things up-to-date are trying to be kinda behind the curve from what I’ve seen16:25
j^2it’s more a safe then sorry route16:25
jklareif so, i think there is no optimal solution to the problem for now16:25
j^2sounds correct16:26
jklareso we just have to workaround it until fauxhai is released16:26
j^2#topic Eastern Hemisphere standup?16:26
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j^2jklare: is it going well? is it worth it?16:26
jklarej^2 there has been no change since the last monday meeting on this topic, not sure why its on the agenda for this one :)16:27
j^2just to make sure that we discuss it. even if it’s something like you just said16:28
jklareok16:28
j^2#topic core reviewer process16:28
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jklarealso no change since 2 meetings16:28
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j^2so at Chef i’m gonna be getting some help with my responsibilites16:28
jklareand i think we finished discussing it on the summit16:28
j^2should we put the new person through the full process first?16:29
jklarethe full process?16:29
j^2having the time they step up, do the meetings commit and all?16:29
j^2everything we’ve discussed16:29
j^2then propose them as a core?16:30
jklaresure16:30
j^2ok16:30
j^2i just wanted to see if there was any objection or we should stick to our process because we created it16:30
j^2if that makes sense16:30
jklarei think the process is fine16:30
j^2kk16:31
j^2#topic client cookbook16:31
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j^2markvan and i had a great time pairing on the client cookbook last week16:31
j^2i have slated another couple hours this week for it, and i’d love if people joined us16:31
j^2we have more or less the foundation that we need to make this happen16:32
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jklarecool16:33
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j^2:D16:33
sc`nice16:33
j^2#topic  chefdk 0.6.016:34
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j^2thoughts?16:34
sc`i'm with jklare in that we should wait for the chef-provisioning issue16:34
sc`to be fixed16:34
j^2makes sense16:35
j^2i just want to make sure we mention it here :)16:35
j^2#topic specs16:35
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j^2so it seems there is a specs site:16:35
j^2#link specs.openstack.org16:36
j^2we can move to it if yall want to16:36
j^2thoughts?16:36
jklarewhat does moving to it mean16:37
jklare?16:37
jklareis it just linking our repo or does it mean to abandon the old repo and use something different?16:37
j^2it means we move our specs to the offical site, and our repo gets depricated16:38
j^2it’s more “big tent” stuff16:38
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sc`i think it'd make sense to move toward that as part of the big tent effort16:38
j^2cool16:39
jklaresounds good16:39
j^2they still havent moved us as of yesterday16:39
j^2but we are slated for the “next maintance window"16:39
j^2whenever the fuck that is16:39
j^2:P16:39
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j^2ill keep my eye on it, updates when i got em16:39
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j^2#topic cross project ci testing16:40
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j^2opps, that’s mark16:40
j^2#topic Open Discussion16:40
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j^2anything on yalls end?16:40
jklarei just read a bit about the specs thing16:41
jklare:)16:41
jklarei think we will just keep our repo as is and only link it via some files in the projects-config repo16:41
jklaremaybe we have to refactore the repo structure a bit16:42
jklarenot sure yet16:42
jklarewill have to read a bit more16:42
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j^2cool16:43
j^2sc`: anything on your end?)16:43
sc`i'm good16:43
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sc`still chasing down mariadb inconsistencies16:44
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j^2nice16:48
j^2ok, if there is nothing else16:49
j^2i’ll end now and give everyone back 1016:50
j^2 mins16:50
jklare:)16:50
j^2#endmeeting16:50
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flaper87#startmeeting Zaqar21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun  8 21:00:50 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Zaqar)"21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'zaqar'21:00
elmikohi21:01
flaper87flwang vkmc exploreshaifali ?21:01
flaper87elmiko: there you are21:01
flaper87:D21:01
elmiko=)21:01
egafford1flaper87: Hi!21:01
exploreshaifaliyup :)21:01
kragnizhi!21:01
flaper87egafford1: hey there21:01
flaper87so many folks21:01
flaper87T_T21:01
flaper87cool21:01
flaper87:D21:01
flaper87lets give flwang a couple of more seconds21:01
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egafford1That was pretty emotionally labile chat there.21:01
flaper87I know he's on-line, probably just in a different channel21:02
flwangi/21:02
egafford1Good Job.21:02
flaper87flwang: there you are21:02
flaper87#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda21:02
flwangsorry for the late21:02
flaper87That's our agenda for today, not many things to discuss so feel free to add more things21:02
flaper87erm, fuck21:02
flaper87wiki is playing nasty21:03
flaper87LOL, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Agenda21:03
flaper87https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zaqar#Usual_Stuff <- this is our agenda21:03
flaper87(facepalm)21:03
flaper87#topic API WG ( elmiko )21:03
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flaper87elmiko: floor is yours21:03
elmikohey all =)21:03
flaper87everyone listen carefully or elmiko will be really really mad21:03
elmikowell, i'm just doing some outreach from the api working group21:03
elmikotrying to find a link, 1sec21:04
elmikok, got it21:04
elmikook, so we're passing around a link about liaison responsibilities , https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/APIWGLiaisons21:04
flaper87#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/APIWGLiaisons21:05
elmikoand also our new guideline merge process21:05
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186836/21:05
flaper87elmiko: thanks21:05
elmikoand i wanted to reach out to the zaqar team to hopefully generate interest in having a liaison to the api wg =)21:05
elmikoflaper87 has been gracious enough to take that role for the time being, but if there is interest we'd love to have more involvement21:05
flaper87so, last time elmiko and I talked, I raised my hand for doing this work while we find another liaison21:06
flwangyep, i saw that, and i agree :)21:06
flaper87but I don't think I'll be able to take that burden^Wresponsibility for a long time and we shouldn't live without one21:06
elmikoyea, if anyone has questions about the api-wg; what we do, etc, please fire way =)21:06
elmiko*away21:06
flaper87does any of you want to help out with that?21:06
flwanghaha, I can take it21:06
flaper87elmiko: ^21:06
flaper87pls, quick, before he changes his mind21:06
flaper87REMOVE MY NICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK21:06
elmikocool, flwang awesome!21:07
elmikolol21:07
flwangflaper87: i know if i say no, i will be kick somedays later21:07
flaper87LOL21:07
flaper87or you'll be magically added21:07
flwangyep, with the boss magic21:07
elmikoflwang: just pm me your name so i can add it. btw i'm michael mccune =)21:07
flaper87or, as some other people, you'll be volunteered by a third-party promoter21:07
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elmikothanks flaper8721:07
flaper87elmiko: you'll always be elmiko for me21:08
elmikohehe =)21:08
flaper87:D21:08
flaper87cool, thanks a lot flwang and elmiko21:08
flaper87#topic Priorities spec ala https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187272/21:08
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* flaper87 starts typing slowly to waste some time21:08
flaper87So, I was thinking we should have some place were people can go and look at our priorities that is not LP21:09
flaper87becayse we all hate^Wignore it21:09
flaper87and I was thinking we could give nova's model a try21:09
flaper87just a priorities dir with our priorities explained21:09
flaper87it's a bit more verbose but explained better for people that don't know enough about Zaqar21:10
flaper87thoughts?21:10
* flaper87 is afraid of crickets21:10
flwangflaper87: yep, I also noticed that, and I'm happy to follow it21:10
flaper87awesome!21:10
flaper87I'll work on something and ping you all for reviews21:11
flaper87vkmc is partying today so she won't be able to join21:11
flaper87#topic  Status updates21:11
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flaper87flwang: anything from you ?21:11
flaper87flwang: >.>21:12
* flaper87 shakes flwang's screen21:12
flwangflaper87: sorry, i'm chatting with elmiko :)21:12
flaper87elmiko: sssssssshhhh21:12
elmikosorry21:12
flwangyep, i'm working the email driver of notification21:12
flwangand meanwhile, review the developer doc of SNS to figure out what we should improve for the notification service21:13
flwangso as to draft a spec to enhance it21:13
flaper87flwang: awesome21:14
flaper87flwang: do you have an ETA or something?21:14
flaper87I'd like to schedule whatever comes out of your mind before mid l-121:14
flwangETA?21:14
flaper87flwang: yup, are you planning to submit anything soon ?21:14
flwangi have submitted the email driver spec21:15
flaper87did you?21:15
flaper87oh boy21:15
flaper87I didn't know21:15
* flaper87 is a bad ptl21:15
flwangif you missed it, i will blame the PTL of zaqar21:15
elmikolol21:15
flaper87I'll review it tomorrow21:15
flaper87:D21:15
flaper87flwang: that's awesome news btw21:15
* flaper87 tries to distract flwang21:15
flaper87flwang: thanks :)21:16
flaper87moving on21:16
flaper87kragniz: any updates on the policy stuff?21:16
flwangi was pushed by a crazy boss to submit it by last Fri >_>.......21:16
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flaper87flwang: hey, it's jsut monday here :P21:16
kragnizflaper87: not too much, fixed up vkmc's comments21:16
flaper87kragniz: ok, not rush but, when is it going to be ready? :P21:16
flwangflaper87: kragniz: https://review.openstack.org/18866221:17
kragnizI'm planning on getting started towards the end of this week/weekend21:17
flaper87kragniz: that sounds awesome21:17
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flaper87thanks a lot!21:17
kragniz:D21:17
flaper87From my side, the spec for pre-signed URLs was merged last week and I'll likely start coding on it tomorrow (or the day after because you know, Murphy)21:17
flaper87btw, I've learnt that, if you give enough options, Murphy's law won't hold21:18
flaper87and that's completely related to the meeting21:18
flaper87I swear21:18
flaper87:P21:18
flaper87aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway21:18
* flaper87 puts vkmc's hair on21:18
flaper87I know she submitted the spec21:18
flaper87... the spec for websockets21:19
flaper87(as in she moved it from Kilo to Liberty)21:19
flaper87and she, I think, rebased her patch21:19
flaper87which is good, it's great progress21:19
flaper87Also, therve started merging tests into zaqar/tests21:19
flaper87The v2 and v1.1 tests are merged now21:19
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flaper87that's all I have on status update21:20
kragnizlots of nice merges there21:20
flaper87my heart is still beating (in case anyone cares)21:20
* flaper87 tries to think if he's forgetting something21:20
flaper87I don't think so21:20
kragnizwhat about client stuff?21:20
flaper87kragniz: crap, I knew it21:21
flaper87client stuff, openstackclient folks started looking at Zaqar and they realized how awesome we are because we've been using the sdk since day 021:21
flaper87yay for us21:21
kragnizwoo!21:21
* flaper87 does the yay dance: \o \o/ o/21:21
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exploreshaifali\o/21:22
flaper87dynarro is working on completing pool/flavors in the client21:22
ekarlsowhat sdk ?21:22
flwangflaper87: how about the horizon stuff?21:22
flaper87ekarlso: I meant openstackclient21:22
flwangdo we have anybody working on that?21:22
flaper87exploreshaifali: is going to be working on that21:22
flwangi think it's an important part for adopting zaqar21:22
flwangand the puppet work, you know21:23
flaper87flwang: we don't and it'll depend a lot on vkmc's work (if you mean the events)21:23
ekarlsopuppet muppet :D21:23
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flwangflaper87: no21:23
flaper87if you mean the dashboard, then the answer changes21:23
flwangnot events21:23
flwangi mean the web gui of zaqar in horizon21:23
flaper87I mean, it doesn't changes for anything good21:23
flaper87we still don't have anyone21:23
flaper87:P21:23
* flaper87 rofl21:23
flaper87the good thing is that it doesn't depend on anything21:24
flaper87just finding someone willing to do it21:24
flaper87aaaaaaaaaaaaaand for the puppet thing, I've emailed Richard again and I haven't heard back yet21:24
flaper87I'll call my personal SWAT team to make sure I can get his attention21:24
flaper87any other questions on status?21:25
* flaper87 will print the "Zaqar Today" tomorrow21:25
flaper87it's a newspaper brought to you by the daily planet21:25
flaper87no idea where that came from21:25
exploreshaifali:D21:25
kragnizI'd buy a copy21:25
flaper87exploreshaifali: do you have updates on your CLI work ?21:26
flwangi saw there is a guy is taking the horizon+ zaqar blueprint, i'm going to send a mail to wake up him21:26
exploreshaifaliflaper87, not yet21:26
exploreshaifaliflaper87, but just now you also said I will be working on horizon stuff?21:26
flaper87flwang: please do, let me know :)21:27
flaper87exploreshaifali: no no, unless you want to :p21:27
flaper87exploreshaifali: but really, the CLI work is really appreciated and needed21:27
flaper87:)21:27
exploreshaifaliyup yup, we will discuss ..... it was PTL's magic21:27
exploreshaifaliokay.21:27
flaper87ok, moving on to our, last point before our IRC party (no one leaves before the hour ends)21:28
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flaper87#topic Open Discussion21:28
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flaper87real quick, we need to scale reviews21:28
flaper87so please, I know Zaqar is not top priority for you but dedicate some time to it every day :)21:28
flwangwhat did you mean 'scale reviews'?21:28
flwangjust review, or the number of patch?21:29
exploreshaifaliboth21:29
exploreshaifali:P21:29
flaper87and for whomever is reading (or wil lread this logs) I know a guy, that knows a girl, that knows a guy, that has a cousing that is rich. You'll be rewarded if you review Zaqar patches21:29
flaper87flwang: we need to do more reviews :D21:29
flaper87flwang: and there's no money from you21:29
kragnizflaper87: gummy bears?21:29
flaper87flwang: at least not from the guy, that knows a girl, that knows a guy, that has a cousing that is rich21:30
flaper87kragniz: I can make that happen21:30
elmikoflaper87: what kind of rewards?21:30
kragnizsorted21:30
flaper87I'll give my gummy bears leftovers away21:30
* egafford1 would like to start doing reviews; should promise nothing, though.21:30
flaper87elmiko: you'll have to talk to the guy I know, that knows a girl, that knows a guy, that has a cousing that is rich21:30
elmikoLOL21:30
flaper87egafford1: you, sir, are doomed21:30
flaper87:)21:30
* egafford1 also interjects very late now that we're in open discussion: Pro tip re: elmiko/Michael McCune for anyone near Red Hat: Michael McCune is not Mike McCune. Be warned.21:31
elmikothis is true21:31
egafford1elmiko: I know right.21:31
flaper87elmiko: ID or it's not >.>21:31
kragnizthat's too confusing21:31
flaper87egafford1: I'll flooooood your email with review requests21:31
elmikoflaper87: i showed someone my ID in paris and he did a double take, didn't believe me21:31
flaper87LOL, that happens because you refuse to use 2 names and 2 lastnames21:32
elmikogood point21:32
flaper87Did you really think you were unique among 7b ppl?21:32
flaper87:P21:32
* flaper87 messes with elmiko's self-esteem21:32
flaper87elmiko: don't hate me21:32
elmikonot really, but i had gone this long without a hash collision ;)21:32
* flaper87 hands some gummy bears to elmiko21:32
flaper87there21:32
* elmiko munch munch21:33
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egafford1flaper87: I have several powers. Most of them relate to email filtering.21:33
flaper87ok, if no one has anything else to say, you'll be very happy to know that you now have 30 more mins to do zaqar reviews and code21:33
flaper87egafford1: ^ HINT!21:33
flaper87egafford1: I've powers on IRC, asterisk (and your phone number), email, etc21:33
egafford1flaper87: Yeah, you have fabulous access, no doubt.21:34
* flaper87 can hear egafford1 saying: "I'm screwed"21:34
flaper87<o/ \o>21:34
flaper87ok, anything else?21:34
egafford1Did you just high five yourself after undergoing mitosis?21:34
elmikolol21:34
flaper87LOLL21:35
flaper87that looks like I high five myself21:35
elmikoyes, yes it does21:35
flaper87I'll keep using it21:35
flaper87it'll come handy21:35
egafford1It's a good thing to be able to communicate, for sure.21:35
elmikoit's like a self +1 on a review ;)21:35
flaper87ok, time to clear up the dance floor, folks!21:36
flaper87thanks for sticking around, for input and remember, next week the meeting will be at 15:00 UTC21:36
flaper87same bat-channel21:36
kragniz\o/21:36
flaper87#endmeeting21:36
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elmikothanks flaper8721:37
flaper87elmiko: thank you for putting this on flwang21:37
flaper87:D21:37
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elmikoflaper87: ha! no worries ;)21:40
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