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mrda.05:01
gabriel-bezerra.05:01
gabriel-bezerrao.05:01
cineramahi!05:01
* mrda wonders if my NA friends are still awake...05:02
jlvillalmrda, I'm awake....05:03
cineramawe may not have devananda05:03
mrdas/my/all my/05:03
cineramaokay!05:04
cinerama#startmeeting05:04
openstackcinerama: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'05:04
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mrdacinerama: without chair delegation I think we're stuck05:05
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cineramamrda: orly? we might be able to work the bot - i have pinch hit on tripleo meetings before05:05
cineramawe only have pshige's agenda item05:06
mrdacinerama: oh?05:06
cinerama#startmeeting Ironic05:06
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  9 05:06:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cinerama. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.05:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.05:06
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'05:06
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mrdao/05:06
cineramaokay welcome everyone to this lightly-attended ironic meeting05:06
mrdaThanks cinerama for poking the bot05:06
jlvillalo/05:07
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cineramaokay so looks like first off on the agenda we have:05:07
cineramaAnnouncements and reminders05:07
mrdaSo it looks like we're having a midcycle05:08
cineramathe main one we have is: don't forget to vote in the poll about mid-cycle dates. you can find the poll at #link http://goo.gl/forms/RJvq0uqfSD05:08
pshigeo/05:08
mrdaand devananda's got a straw poll going...05:08
cineramaanyone have any other announcements they'd like to share?05:09
gabriel-bezerracinerama: shouldn't #link be in the beggining of the message?05:09
mrda#link http://goo.gl/forms/RJvq0uqfSD05:09
cineramagabriel-bezerra: oh, OK. thanks for the pointer05:09
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gabriel-bezerracinerama: np05:09
cineramaokay great. moving along, looks like the next topic is05:10
gabriel-bezerrapshige didn't answer devananda earlier, like 2h ago.05:10
gabriel-bezerrais pshige around?05:11
pshigeyes05:11
gabriel-bezerraI'm sorry, you said o/05:11
gabriel-bezerraso, next topic...05:11
cineramado we want to get straight into pshige's topic? did anyone else have anything for the subteam status reports?05:11
gabriel-bezerra#topic Review subteam status reports05:12
mrdacinerama: I think that's all we got.  There's nothing interesting in the sub-teams' reports05:12
wanyensubteam status are on teh whiteboard https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard05:12
cineramathanks wanyen05:12
pshigeok05:12
cineramapshige, i think you have the floor05:12
pshigehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/187056/05:13
gabriel-bezerracinerama: #topic please05:13
pshigeI don't know the irc command ...05:13
cinerama#topic pshige on changing the structure of the developer docs05:13
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cinerama#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187056/05:13
pshigeit's just for discussion and I don't intend to merge this as it is.05:13
pshigeMy propose is to create a branch of guide for stable/kilo other than what we maintain for master.05:14
* mrda looks05:14
pshigeWe don't have OpenStack Documentation for kilo written by docs team.05:14
pshigeSo for Admins , we should keep the Install Guide etc for stable/kilo.05:14
pshigeOn the other hand, we should also keep the Developer Install Guide for master.05:14
gabriel-bezerrapshige: our docs are in the same repository as the code, aren't them?05:14
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pshigeyes05:15
pshigePlease give me any comments.I won't merge this for a while.05:15
pshigeI will continuously discuss with Docs Team in consideration of our opinions and will report as Docs sub team.05:15
mrdapshige: is this in line with what devananda and loquacities were discussing at summit?05:15
gabriel-bezerraso isn't the stable branch for kilo code the same as kilo docs?05:16
mrdai.e. Ironic write the docs, docs team wander over occasionally and fix all our structure/grammar/spelling mistakes?05:16
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pshigewe don't decide which team will write manuals.05:17
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mrdaSo there's been some agreement between Ironic PTL and Docs PTL on this at summit05:18
mrdaso I was wondering whether this is the follow-on to that05:18
pshigewe should discuss with docs team.05:18
mrdaRight, I think that just happenned in Vancouver :)05:18
pshigeno agreement there05:18
wanyenIronic doc is not part of the OpenStack Kilo doc.  Do you know whether Ironic admin doc will be included in OpenStack administrator guide for Liberty?05:19
mrdaoh ok.  I understood that to be different.  I'll talk to Lana again about this.05:19
pshigewe should discuss in a few months.05:20
wanyenI thought eventaually admin info will go into OpenStack admin guide and Ironic will only maintain the developer doc.05:20
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mrdawanyen: it's my understanding that docs don't have capacity to write Iromnic docs, so the Irtonic team have to.  But Docs will offer support from time to time to keep us on track.05:20
mrda(please excuse my typos)05:20
wanyenmrda, np.  I am bad at typing as well.05:20
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mrdaok, so it seems like more discussion is needed in this space.05:21
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pshigeI should go on this discussion here in a few weeks.05:21
pshigeI don't intend to decide something here now.05:22
wanyenone of iLO driver team member discussed doc changes with rloo lately.  That's the impression I got from that discussion.05:22
mrdaok, perhaps when we discuss it again I'll invite the Docs PTL along, so we can all be on the same page.05:22
wanyenmrda +105:22
gabriel-bezerraI think docs should be together with their project/module as a general rule.05:23
pshigethat's it.05:23
mrdagabriel-bezerra: I think that's what's happening05:23
cinerama#action Discuss Ironic admin documentation with docs PTL05:23
cinerama^ that look about right pshige mrda?05:23
mrdacinerama: thanks05:24
cineramaanything else on that topic?05:24
pshigewe should discuss with Lana and Karin05:25
* mrda just pinged Lana, pointing her to this log05:25
cinerama#action Ping Lana & Karin re docs05:25
cineramaokay05:26
cinerama#topic General discussion05:26
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cineramaanyone else have anything they'd like to discuss here?05:26
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mrdathanks cinerama - I think we're done here :)05:27
pshigethanks cinerama and all!05:28
gabriel-bezerrathank you, folks05:28
cineramagreat, thanks everyone05:28
pshige#endmeeting05:28
cinerama#endmeeting05:28
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evrardjpgood morning everyone07:50
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pc_mHi16:00
ajmillerHello16:00
pc_mhi ajmiller16:01
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dhruvdhodyhi again!16:01
pc_mdeja-vu16:01
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pc_m:)16:01
pc_mwill give a few mins for everyone to get in channel16:02
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pc_mLet's get started as a few other items to discuss before talking abouot BGP VPN API16:04
sridhar_ramhi16:04
pc_m#startmeeting vpnaas16:04
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pc_m#topic Announcements16:04
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pc_mThere is a change to merge the Fedora strongswan into strongswan driver. See #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189611/16:05
pc_mNo other announcements.16:05
pc_m#topic bugs16:06
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pc_mPlease look at the open reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-vpnaas,n,z and provide feedback to committers.16:06
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pc_mAny bugs that warrant discussion right now, or can we skip that this week?16:07
sridhar_rampc_am: For me Scenario test is an important one16:07
sridhar_rampc_m: will review that for sure16:08
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pc_msridhar_ram: please do. I haven't looked at it in a while, but I think it is failing tests just recently (#link https://review.openstack.org/159746)16:08
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pc_mnot sure what changed (as same patch set).16:09
pc_mIf anyone has any ideas, let Nikolay know.16:09
pc_m#topic Multiple Subnets16:10
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pc_mRFE was submitted. Waiting for Drivers Team to review and see if BP is needed.16:10
pc_mOne question for the group...16:10
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pc_mShould we require that the local subnets all have the same IP version?16:11
pc_mOK, two questions... Should we require that local and peer subnets have the same IP version?16:11
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pc_mCurrently, there is no restriction.16:12
sridhar_rampc_m: I think so. Mixing versions is an unchartered territory IMO16:12
pc_msridhar_ram: That's what I was thinking.16:12
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ajmillerUnless someone can thing of a valid reason we would want to allow different versions, I think we should restrict them to be the same.16:12
pc_m#info Will validate that subnets (local and peer) are of the same IP version for IPSec connections16:13
ajmillerRestrictions can be relaxed in the future if appropraite...16:13
pc_m#topic Certificates16:13
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john_a_joycepc_m: so if you had a dual stack network you would create two tunnels?16:13
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pc_mjohn_a_joyce: For now yeah. Is that OK?16:14
john_a_joycepc_m: I guess it is ok for now if it keeps things simpler16:14
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john_a_joycepc_m: if the restriction will be difficult or impossible to remove later we should think harder about whether it is really needed16:15
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pc_mjohn_a_joyce: Well, two approaches... validate and reject if mixed types, or leave it and some implementation may not work right.16:15
pc_mthoughts?16:16
john_a_joycepc_m:  I am ok rejecting provided it isn't encoded in the API in anyway16:16
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john_a_joycepc_m: we want this to work first16:16
pc_mjohn_a_joyce: It would be part of validation.16:16
pc_mnot part of API at all.16:17
john_a_joycepc_m: probably that is good then reject for now if mixed.  You can always create a second tunnel for the Ipv6 subnets.16:17
sridhar_ramjohn_a_joyce: +116:18
pc_mWe could lift it, once we test dual stack (if ever :)16:18
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john_a_joycepc_m: I hope we test dual-stack early - you saw the number v6 presos at the summit16:19
pc_mLet's employ the restriction. We can always remove it later, and have a work-around for dual stack.16:19
john_a_joycepc_m: ignore that I now understand what you meant16:19
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pc_mjohn_a_joyce: It is true though, there has been little IPv6 testing at all, let alone dual-stack.16:20
pc_mSomething that is needed across the board.16:20
pc_mAny volunteers to write IPv6 tests? :)16:21
ajmillerpc_m agreed, the general state of IPv6 testing leaves a lot to be desired.16:21
pc_m#topic Certificates16:21
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pc_mI did a RFE and am waiting for Drivers Team review.16:21
pc_mBeen researching it a bit.16:21
pc_mDoes anyone know what certificate types should be supported? any besides X.509?16:22
sridhar_rampc_am: link for the RFE ?16:22
* pc_m lacking in knowledge of all the authentication methods for VPN.16:22
pc_m#ilnk https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145942716:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1459427 in neutron "VPNaaS: Certificate support for IPSec" [Undecided,New]16:23
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pc_mHere's the multiple subnet one https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145942316:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1459423 in neutron "VPNaaS: Allow multiple local subnets for IPSec" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:23
sridhar_rampc_m: thanks!16:23
john_a_joycepc_m: I may be able to help with the IPv6 tests - so a soft volunteer for now16:24
pc_m#action john_a_joyce able to help some with IPv6 tests16:24
pc_mthanks john_a_joyce16:24
pc_mIf anyone has experience with the certificate stuff, please let me know... could use some help there.16:25
ajmillerpc_m regarding certificate support, a place to start might be to compare with neutron-lbaas, which at least has a starting point for SSL/TLS certs using Barbican:16:25
ajmiller#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/SSL16:25
pc_mAlso, in the future we should probably consider moving the auth info out of the connection object and into another table, so that it can be used by other VPN types.16:25
pc_majmiller: Yeah, I've been looking at what they have. Seems like TLS X.509 certs16:26
ajmilleryes16:26
pc_mJust didn't know if there were other certificate types we should handle16:27
* pc_m heck, not even sure what ones exist :)16:27
ajmillerI don't know either16:27
pc_m#action pc_m post to ML asking about certificate support for VPN16:27
pc_mWill ask on ML to see. Please chime in, if you have ideas.16:28
pc_m#topic DM VPN16:28
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pc_mPlease look at sridhar_ram's review16:28
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pc_mhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/181563/16:29
sridhar_rampc_m: network-id is the only outstanding item16:29
sridhar_ramif you and yanping can sign off on that .. I think we are good (IMO)16:29
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yanpingHave you looked Open NHRP? How it defines NHRP domain?16:30
pc_mI was wondering if tunnel-key can be used for network-id, or if we should have both fields in the database.16:30
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sridhar_ramyanping: there is no attr simlar to network-id required for OpenNHRP16:30
sridhar_rampc_m: that is perfectly valid usage16:31
pc_msridhar_ram: to combine them?16:31
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sridhar_rampc_m: as I mentioned in the review.. many Cisco dmvpn examples use the same value for both network-id and tunnel  key16:31
pc_myanping: Would that work for you?16:31
yanpingI am not sure about that.16:31
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sridhar_ramyanping: I provided a link to Cisco doc.. where all the examples use the same value16:32
pc_m#action yanping to see if network-id can use tunnel-key  field, or if separate fields are needed16:32
pc_myanping: Made an action item for you :)16:32
yanpingI’ll take a look and confirm.16:32
pc_myanping: super. then we can close this out.16:33
pc_mAnything else on DM VPN? Please check out the spec.16:33
sridhar_rampc_m: is there any deadline to have this approved, like L1 ?16:33
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pc_mNo. No more deadlines.16:33
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sridhar_rampc_m: this being not a RFE is fine ?16:34
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pc_mIf it is done in time, it goes in.16:34
sridhar_rampc_m: that's what I thought, wanted to confirm16:34
pc_msridhar_ram: yes. RFE will be used after L-1. I just did it for mine, as they were new.16:34
sridhar_rampc_m: sure16:34
pc_m#topic API convergence - BGP VPN16:35
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pc_mOK, so I think the goal here is to explore whether or not there is some commonality in BGP VPN and VPNaaS that can be converged.16:35
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pc_mWe've got about 20 mins. What are our objectives for today?16:36
matrohonpc_m : I submitted the use case in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vpn-flavors16:36
pc_mmatrohon: Thanks!16:36
matrohonas other did16:36
pc_mYeah I wanted to mention that.16:36
pc_mFeel free to add your thoughts, comments, questions to that etherpad.16:37
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pc_mDo we want to try to discuss where there are possible commonalities?16:37
pc_mjohn_a_joyce: matrohon?16:37
john_a_joyceThere is at least some consensus that there is overlap between the use cases16:38
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john_a_joycecertainly not complete overlap16:38
john_a_joycei thought we seemed to be converging that there two aspects - the networking details of what is to be connected16:38
john_a_joyceand then details on how the "pipe" is setup to connect them16:39
matrohonthe only  overlap I see for the end user/tenant : he can attach some object to the VPN, but cannot create the VPN16:40
sridhar_ramjohn_a_joyce: yeah, in the "interconnect" from tenant network to PE router seems like a common capability16:40
john_a_joycethe current VPNaaS APi seems to have a decent split - the IPSEC tunnel details16:40
john_a_joyceand then the subnets16:40
pc_mso commonality is the "what is connected"?16:42
matrohonwe could have the same split with bgpvpn connection, replacing the IPSEC tunnel details, with "the BGPVN tunnel details"16:42
john_a_joycematrohon: that is along the lines of what I was thinking as well16:42
sridhar_rammatrohon: yeah, creating a particular PE VPN flavor (BGP in this case) is one basket16:43
sridhar_ram*could be in one basket16:43
sridhar_ramnow the id returned by that 'create' need to 'attached' to neutron network16:43
john_a_joycesrihar_ram: +116:43
sridhar_ramthat attachment shd be done in some common way ...16:44
sridhar_ramas other PE VPN types would need the exact same thing16:44
ajmiller+116:44
john_a_joycesrihar_ram: exactly my thoughts as well16:44
matrohonI'm afraid I'm the only one who doesn't understand clearly previaous sentences :(16:45
sridhar_rammatrohon: it will be nice of you can rework BGP VPN along these lines and help to define a common 'interconnect' part that will be awesom16:45
pc_mmatrohon: I'm digesting them too.16:45
pc_mSo one part is the details of the tunnel itself. Do we all agree that it is VPN type specific?16:46
angela-s_yes, VPN specific16:46
* pc_m trying to agree on the simple stuff16:46
john_a_joyceI think it is really splitting it in two:  1: the mechanics of how I connect these elements (networks in this case)16:46
* pc_m :)16:46
sridhar_rampc_m: agree !16:47
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john_a_joyce2: which elements (e.g. networks) the tenant is dealing with16:47
ajmillermatrohon I agree with the principle, and think it can be possible, but am by no means fully understanding whether it can actually be done...16:47
matrohonpc_m : agree too16:47
sridhar_rampc_m: matrohon: the key difference we are reiterating is the IPSec, and perhaps DMVPN, are directly implemented in the network node .. so the interconnection to neutron network is implicit..16:48
sridhar_ramwhereas the PE router based VPN is originated off another box outside OpenStack16:48
sridhar_ramthe bridge from network-node to this other box need to be codified16:49
matrohonsridhar_ram : here, I do not agree : with the bagpipe current implementation, each compute node is seen as a PE16:49
pc_mjohn_a_joyce: Do you mean the "what is connected" is split into two?16:49
john_a_joycepc_m: no16:49
matrohonsridhar_ram : this is the scope of edge vpn I think16:50
john_a_joycepc_m: same thought as you leave the details of the tunnel separate16:50
sridhar_rammatrohon: frankly I don't care the actual vpn type - bgp / edge / something else16:51
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sridhar_rammatrohon: with bagpipe being in each compute .. how does the network-node connected to these bagpipe in each compute ?16:52
matrohonsridhar_ram : +1 :) but I meant that this is the main diff between edge vpn proposal and the bgpvpn one;16:52
* sridhar_ram need to understand the bgpvpn driver impl16:52
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john_a_joycematrohon: I did not understand your last statement16:53
* pc_m still a bit lost.16:54
matrohonsridhar_ram : it's implem details :) but shortly, as soon as you want to speak to an address learn by bgp, traffic is sent directly to the learn NH, from the compute node16:54
sridhar_rammatrohon: NH stands for ?16:55
matrohonnext hop16:55
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sridhar_ramNH is the PE router ?16:56
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matrohonI feel we really need to write down some diagram about the ref implem (bagpipe) details :)16:56
john_a_joycematrohon:  I think maybe I am starting to understand the challenge16:56
pc_mmatrohon: Yes please!16:56
sridhar_rammatrohon: Yeah, we need a diagram, we need a diagram, we need a diagram!16:56
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john_a_joycemost of the other proposals need to specifically get the tunnel/connection details from the user16:57
matrohon#action : matrohon to write some diagram of the bagpipe bgpvpn implementation16:57
pc_mmatrohon: Awesome!16:57
john_a_joycewhere bagpipe implicitly knows how to send the pack to the NH16:57
matrohonjohn_a_joyce : +116:57
sridhar_ramI was trying hard to get all dumb questions out .. but failed ;-)16:57
john_a_joyceso you only need to know which networks get inter-connected not how the plumbing will interconnect them16:58
matrohonjohn_a_joyce : +100016:58
pc_mWe've about out of time. Can folks add content to the etherpad.  I think I understand that one part is the details of the connection, but I don't yet grasp the other part.16:58
matrohonthis is why the API is so simple16:58
john_a_joyceok - but i still think we can have common ground as the 1 part you need is also needed by all the other csaes as well16:59
matrohonbgp will handle control plane details for iinterconnection16:59
john_a_joycelet me think about it a bit more and maybe put something in the etherpad16:59
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pc_mPlease plop down your understanding/questions/notes on the etherpad. We've got to close out.17:00
pc_m#endmeeting17:00
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sridhar_rambye all .. nice discussion17:00
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john_a_joycethanks - this was enlighting for me17:00
dhruvdhodybye17:00
ajmillerbye17:00
dhruvdhodytime to doze off17:00
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thinrichsHi all.17:01
thinrichsTime for the Congress meeting.17:01
masahito_hi17:01
pballandhi17:01
thinrichs#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting17:01
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thinrichsmasahito_, pballand: hi17:02
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thinrichsLet's start with status updates, as usual.17:02
thinrichs#topic status17:02
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thinrichspballand: want to get us started?17:03
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pballandsure17:03
pballandnot much to report from last week - just made a mechanical change for oslo-policy17:03
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pballandthis week I’m looking at adding an API validator to close a but on on errors with invalid API input17:04
pballandthat’s it for me17:04
thinrichspballand: the oslo_policy change is that we need to reference oslo_policy instead of oslo.policy, correct?17:05
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pballandit removes the copy of the oslo policy code from our repo, and uses the (newly created) shared package17:05
pballandminor namespace and code changes were also introduced since we last copied the code from oslo17:05
thinrichsSo then in our requirements.txt we have oslo.policy, but throughout the code we use oslo_policy.  Is that right?  That seems weird.17:06
thinrichsThe underscore versus the period, that is.17:07
pballandone’s a PIP package name, the other is a python namespace17:07
thinrichsGot it.17:08
pballandyou can talk with the oslo team about their naming conventions, but I don’t know there is much we can do about it17:08
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thinrichsThe API validator sounds cool.  How does the validator know what data to validate?  In code, or does it pull in types as API meta-data?17:09
pballandI’m planning on adding JSON Schemas for each resource, and validating against that17:10
thinrichsNice!17:10
pballandthere was a blueprint for that at one point, but I know there is a bug so I was going to do the work in reference to the bug17:11
pballand#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/136788817:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1367888 in congress "Malformed curl command causes internal error" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Peter Balland (pballand)17:11
thinrichsHere's the blueprint.17:12
thinrichshttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/api-validation17:12
thinrichsI think the bug was a higher-level concern.17:12
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thinrichsThe bug was that the API framework didn't catch an error during json-loading.17:12
thinrichsSo that would be before the API-validation would even have a chance to run.17:13
thinrichsYou could always reference both the bug and the blueprint in the commit message.17:13
pballandok, I believe the fix for that specific concern is already in17:14
pballandjust need some test code17:14
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thinrichsSounds good.17:14
thinrichsAnything else?17:15
pballandactually, I just checked, json parsing errors are not caught, so it falls through to the default (500) handler17:15
pballandwill take care of that17:16
pballandnothing else from me17:16
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thinrichsCool.17:16
thinrichsmasahito_: want to tell us what you've been working on?17:16
masahito_yes17:16
masahito_I've been working on adding test fors api/*.py17:17
masahito_https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/143561617:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1435616 in congress "missing test coverage for datasource api code" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Masahito Muroi (muroi-masahito)17:18
masahito_I couldn't have enough time, so I continue to make a patch for it.17:19
thinrichsThat'd be great to get those tests moved out of test_congress and into the api/ folder.17:19
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thinrichsIt was great what you did for the table API.17:19
masahito_I'll upload this patch in this week.17:19
masahito_thank you.17:20
thinrichsmasahito_: Is there anything you need from the rest of us?17:20
masahito_yes.17:21
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thinrichsmasahito_: what do you need from us?17:22
masahito_After reading codes, I found out that there is a file which is not used as api in this folder.17:23
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masahito_I wonder if I need to add a test for it or not.17:25
thinrichsWhich file17:25
thinrichs?17:25
masahito_It is congress/api/datasource_config_model.py17:25
masahito_harness.py creates a service from the file but router.py doesn't set it in a handler.17:27
thinrichsHmmm…17:28
thinrichsThis is weird.  I think I remember asking for the config for a datasource, which I assume is handled by the datasource_config_model.17:29
alexsyipI remmber that also.  Do you remmeber what the URL was ?17:29
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thinrichsI think I was using the client.17:30
thinrichsLooking...17:31
alexsyipThere is a tempest test that uses it.17:31
alexsyipThe tempest tests are not running right now, but they did before.17:31
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thinrichsI can't seem to track this down.  I did notice that there's the Driver config that we can check from the client.17:33
thinrichsSo maybe that's what I am remembering.17:33
alexsyipnevermind, it looks like the HA tempest test does not check the config.17:34
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masahito_sorry, my connection was lost.17:34
thinrichsmasahito_: nothing happened other than alexsyip and I thinking we had used the APi call that you said wasn't hooked up.17:35
thinrichsmasahito_: but then I found a different config API call that was hooked up and thought that I may have been remembering using that one.17:35
thinrichsmasahito_: alexsyip said he may have been thinking of something else too.17:35
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thinrichsmasahito_: maybe you could check if there's a way to query the datasource (not the driver) config, and if not hook up this datasource_config_model to the API properly.17:36
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masahito_ok17:36
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thinrichsWhile we're on the topic of APIs, I wanted to add a note to the spec about the API changes we were considering: /services/ versus /data-sources/ and /policy-engines/.17:37
thinrichshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/183959/1/specs/liberty/policy-engine-api.rst17:38
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thinrichsAt the summit I remember us deciding on the /services/ option, but I don't remember why.17:38
thinrichsDoes anyone remember?17:38
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thinrichsIt'd be good to add a note to the spec saying what we decided and WHY.17:39
thinrichspballand: you were leading that discussion.  Do you remember?17:39
pballandI’l need to dig up my notes17:40
pballandbut I recall a big reason was to fit with delegation17:40
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pballandit also fits more cleanly with the idea that policy-derived tables and plugin-derived tables are used the same way17:41
thinrichsAgreed.17:43
thinrichsI don't think that was the nail in the coffin though.17:43
thinrichsAnyway, if anyone remembers, let's try to add a note to the spec.17:43
thinrichsOops—running a little short on time here.  Let's move on to alexsyip.17:43
thinrichsalexsyip: want to give us a status update?17:44
alexsyipThere was a patch to hook up our tempest tests that merged yesterday.17:44
alexsyipI was experimenting with that change.  It does not seem to be working correctly.17:45
thinrichsI noticed it too.  The error I saw was not being able to clone nova17:45
thinrichshttp://logs.openstack.org/13/186113/8/experimental/gate-congress-dsvm-api/33bb0c2/17:45
alexsyipI had been working on a test for duplicate rules in the DB, but the tempest tests have been failing locally for me.17:45
thinrichsAll the tempest tests or just a couple?17:46
alexsyipjust the test_ha tests.17:46
alexsyipthere was some kind of keystone authentication problem.17:46
alexsyipBut only for write API calls.  The datasource tempest tests still pass.17:46
alexsyipI suspect it’s a problem with my setup, which is why I wanted the jenkins test to see if they also fail.17:47
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thinrichsOk.  Let us know what you find out.17:49
thinrichsI'll spend a few cycles trying to figure out why jenkins isn't running the tests properly.17:49
thinrichsI'll do a quick status update too….17:50
thinrichsI'm trying to get the sequence of patches for VM-placement delegation merged.17:50
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thinrichsThe global requirements file changed the package I was using for LP solvers, which caused the test failures.17:50
thinrichsI'll get that squared away and uploaded soon.17:51
thinrichsalexsyip and masahito_: thanks for the reviews.17:51
thinrichsI also completed the task of creating a Tablename object to encapsulate a bunch of table-name manipulation code.  Mostly mechanical.17:51
thinrichsI was also following a couple of threads about Keystone policy to understand what the keystone team is planning and what Nova is actually requesting in terms of policy.17:52
thinrichsHere are a couple of links to the archive.17:52
thinrichshttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/065598.html17:52
thinrichshttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/065598.html17:52
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thinrichsI've been looking into whether Keystone would be another good experiment for delegation.17:53
thinrichsSince 5 minutes left, I'll open it up for discussion.17:54
thinrichs#topic Discussion17:54
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masahito_I have17:54
masahito_Will we have mid cycle meet up?17:54
thinrichsmasahito_: that's a great question.17:55
masahito_I need to reserve my schedule and budget if we have.17:55
thinrichsmasahito_: are you interested?  I think we'd need to decide on the goals of the meet-up.17:55
masahito_yes17:56
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thinrichsWere you thinking a code-sprint (i.e. everyone gets together to hammer out some specific feature or two)?17:56
thinrichsOr were you thinking more of a design-session?17:56
masahito_I thought meet up is a code-sprint.17:57
thinrichsIn the past, we did more of a policy conference.17:58
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thinrichsBut a code-sprint sounds good too.17:58
thinrichsDid you have a feature or features in mind?17:58
thinrichsTime check: 2 min17:59
thinrichs1 min17:59
masahito_I want congress get scaling out feature17:59
thinrichsI could definitely see us spending a day or two hammering on performance/scale-out.18:00
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thinrichsLet's finish this discussion on the ML, to guage interest.18:00
thinrichsWe're out of time for this week.18:00
thinrichsThanks everyone!18:00
masahito_Should we go to congress room to discuss it?18:00
thinrichsmasahito_: sounds good.18:00
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thinrichs#endmeeting18:00
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masahito_Thank you.18:00
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terrylhowesdk meeting today?19:01
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briancurtinterrylhowe i thought we'd skip since nothing came up to talk about19:01
terrylhowebriancurtin: sounds good, back to the sdk room I guess19:02
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