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| neillc | Hello | 12:01 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 24 12:02:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:02 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 12:02 |
| david-lyle | Hello, who's here | 12:02 |
| tsufiev | hi | 12:02 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 12:03 |
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| neillc | o/ | 12:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | not as crowded as alternate-time meeting it seems. ) | 12:04 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 12:04 |
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| david-lyle | kzaitsev_mb: not usually | 12:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | all the sensible americans are asleep ;) | 12:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | all the non-sensible aussies are here; some came prepared with whiskey | 12:05 |
| * david-lyle feels there's an implication there | 12:05 | |
| neillc | Lol it's 10pm here and I'm sitting in a park because I forgot the meeting and went for a walk | 12:05 |
| robcresswell | ha! | 12:05 |
| neillc | Whiskey! That's what this walk needs! | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | Ok bookkeeping stuff first | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | Liberty-1 was tagged yesterday | 12:06 |
| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/liberty/liberty-1 | 12:06 |
| robcresswell | Nice | 12:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ... which included a bunch of file renaming in horizon, mostly ;) | 12:06 |
| david-lyle | 3 bps and 153 bug fixes | 12:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | huh, not bad | 12:07 |
| david-lyle | less bps than usual | 12:07 |
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| david-lyle | which I blame on the endless quagmire of coding style changes | 12:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah :/ | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | amongst other things | 12:08 |
| david-lyle | There was a lot of progress on other items that just haven't landed yet too | 12:08 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | there's *ten* "JSCS Cleanup" patches in flight at the moment | 12:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | er, twelve | 12:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I wish gerrit had a search function | 12:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | 13 | 12:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | lol | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | for the love of ... | 12:10 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, spawning right now? | 12:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | and that's not all of them | 12:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | though it's hard to guage the size of the problem because no-one doing the work is communicating about it grrrr | 12:10 |
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| robcresswell | This needs an etherpad or mailer thread | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | I feel like cleanup is something you do after the fact, not to block all other things | 12:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think it's just cindy's big plan to be the #1 committer in Liberty ;) | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | I think some people must get paid by the line | 12:11 |
| robcresswell | ...or you pick a style before you write thousands of lines of code | 12:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think the JSCS stuff *should* be able to be done while we do other things, yes | 12:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: yeah, nice idea, but ... | 12:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ;) | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | there are downsides to having great contribution tracking | 12:12 |
| robcresswell | Problem is that JSCS has been merged with "reorganise everything into components" | 12:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | for the record: I totally did not mean that thing I said about cindy | 12:12 |
| robcresswell | JP style guide stuff, right? Seems to be a lot of crossover | 12:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah | 12:12 |
| robcresswell | haha | 12:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think a large part of the current efforts is acknowledgment that there's significant tech debt in the codebase, and trying to address some of that | 12:13 |
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| robcresswell | I'll try and get on top of reviewing those faster, so we can move on from just moving code around | 12:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I've been focusing on sean's patch chain, but I will try to throw some +1s at the jscs cleanups as well | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | so looking at the priority list for liberty | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-horizon-liberty-priorities | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | most of the top priority items are in progress, not done | 12:16 |
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| david-lyle | translation appears to be close | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | couple of patches to review | 12:16 |
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| neillc | Yep. Getting very close I think | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | I'm still slugging it out with plugins | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | testing config is my biggest holdup at this point | 12:17 |
| robcresswell | I had a question actually, about that | 12:17 |
| david-lyle | sure | 12:17 |
| robcresswell | Do we want plugins to live under Horizon, like with Neutron? | 12:18 |
| robcresswell | So Neutron actually covers all of the vendor plugins | 12:18 |
| david-lyle | I think there is a difference | 12:18 |
| robcresswell | and I think we cover some, but not all right now? Like manila and tuskar | 12:18 |
| robcresswell | I was curious where <vendor>-ui should live. | 12:19 |
| david-lyle | in Horizon we're supporting services that exist in the ecosystem already | 12:19 |
| david-lyle | unlike neutron where the plugin is their only tie to the ecosystem | 12:20 |
| david-lyle | I've left it up to the service teams | 12:20 |
| david-lyle | they can own or Horizon can | 12:20 |
| david-lyle | The issue being we need the reviewers for the plugin | 12:20 |
| david-lyle | we can't handle all of that | 12:21 |
| robcresswell | That stands for the component uis, but not for vendor extensions, I'd have thought. | 12:21 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, is it possible to grant people with per-directory +2 review rights? | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: no | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | gerrit is not that sophisticated | 12:21 |
| tsufiev | :( | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | So currently we have 3 arrangements | 12:21 |
| david-lyle | or are working toward | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | 1) plugin lives in contrib | 12:22 |
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| david-lyle | with that the service team members support and 1 horizon core could merge code | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | 2) plugin is owned by horizon team but lives out of tree, like tuskar-ui and manila-ui | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | 3) plugin is owned by the service team | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | 2 and 3 aren't very different IMO | 12:23 |
| david-lyle | and in both you can have a mixed core between service team and horizon | 12:24 |
| david-lyle | the model we are shooting for is more like devstack, qa and docs than neutron | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | where a vendor specific plugin to horizon lives is up for debate | 12:25 |
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| david-lyle | I don't think Horizon owns it though | 12:26 |
| robcresswell | How does this tie into the governance/projects? Does a ui owned by a service team, count as its own project? | 12:27 |
| robcresswell | Or does it have its own repo and cores, but still lives under horizon? or the original project, say trove-ui under trove | 12:27 |
| robcresswell | Just trying to wrap my head around the organisation of it all | 12:28 |
| sambetts | you can have completely independant projects under the stadium of another | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | the gerrit ACLs can be set per repo | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | so regardless of whether it lives in Horizon or service team the core is what you make of it | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | it's ultimately up to who runs the show | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | and we want to let the service teams do that where possible | 12:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | robcresswell: david-lyle: We in murano are comfortable with our current murano-dashboard plugin for horizon. Currently it lives under murano, has murano cores and plugs in by 1 file drop-in. | 12:29 |
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| david-lyle | we can't keep scaling to support all the things | 12:30 |
| robcresswell | No, absolutely | 12:30 |
| tsufiev | kzaitsev_mb, the only drawback of this approach is that you don't know in advance which horizon commit would break murano-dashboard | 12:30 |
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| david-lyle | we could possibly set up non-voting plugin test jobs as well | 12:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | tsufiev: that's true for dashboard, and heat and nova and oslo. and dozens of things, that's why we have gate jobs and stuff pointed at master horizon =) | 12:31 |
| robcresswell | How its looking is that we'll end up with a Cisco extension in its own repo, with me as a core, but just wondering how to define that within openstack as a whole | 12:31 |
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| tsufiev | yet putting every possible test job against every plugin into horizon repo - I wander how long then will it took for the horizon commits to pass all checks? | 12:32 |
| sambetts | the vendor repos in neutron are under neutron in the goverance big tent scheme even though they are managed completely indepentantly, just so that their relationship to neutron is documented | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: good point | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | sambetts: Right, which is what I'd like to do with our cisco dashboard stuff | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | Just trying to understand if that link is acceptable, or they should be unrelated | 12:33 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, I saw a typical commit into Cinder repo, they said it takes ~6 hours for all vendor-specific jobs to pass | 12:33 |
| david-lyle | I think it's acceptable | 12:33 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: ^^ | 12:33 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: Ah, great. I'll link patches etc. when they're up | 12:34 |
| robcresswell | Will make sure nothing merges without your approval. | 12:34 |
| kzaitsev_mb | what about putting jobs, that can be launched by comment? like run plugin-foo? Although I'm not sure if anyone would ever run them in that case... | 12:34 |
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| tsufiev | kzaitsev_mb, or run nightly jobs - i.e. on a time periodic basis - inside every standalone plugin repo | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: That doesn't really solve the issue though, just gives you a faster warning of breakages | 12:36 |
| robcresswell | rather than prevent them | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, agree | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | let's solve that, but not right now | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | :) | 12:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | =) | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | moving on.. | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | Midcycle is July 21-23 in Fort Collins, CO, USA | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | there was an email to the mailing list | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | it would be nice to get a preliminary head count | 12:38 |
| david-lyle | trying to figure out where would be best | 12:38 |
| david-lyle | probably on the etherpad TravT set up | 12:38 |
| robcresswell | Perhaps one of the existng etherpads? | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 12:38 |
| * david-lyle now has to find that link | 12:38 | |
| robcresswell | I can't make it. No approval :( | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-liberty-midcycle | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell :( | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | :( | 12:39 |
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| mrunge | yeah, same here. | 12:40 |
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| mrunge | 3000 $US for 3 days is a bit expensive | 12:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | etherpads aren't loading for me | 12:40 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: The indecisiveness on how to phrase that made me laugh. "Attendies" ... "Planned attendies" .... "Who's coming" | 12:40 |
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| david-lyle | I'm here to amuse | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | It'd be great if someone could leave a hangout on air running, or similar | 12:42 |
| david-lyle | We will try to do that | 12:42 |
| david-lyle | shouldn't be a problem | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | Cheers | 12:43 |
| david-lyle | There was no official agenda items posted, so | 12:44 |
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| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 12:44 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | there's an open question on neillc's translation thing | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so babel really wants its plugins to be pip installed | 12:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but he's got a hack in there so we can include the angular plugin we're developing sit inside the horizon codebase | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | while we develop it | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | he's also pushed it to pypi | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but to keep development pace alive, it was felt better to also keep it in horizon while we polish it off | 12:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | once it's stable, push to pypi and reference it from requirements.txt instead of vendoring | 12:47 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thoughts? | 12:47 |
| neillc | Yep. My plan is to do just that | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | that sounds reasonable | 12:47 |
| r1chardj0n3s | neillc: sorry, figured your fingers were frozen ;) | 12:47 |
| neillc | In particular not try to switch to oypi version until plurals working | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | is the plugin horizon specific or angular/babel specific? | 12:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | angular-specific | 12:48 |
| neillc | Fingers are a bit frozen! | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | ok, yeah that makes sense | 12:48 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, so far as part of Merlin toolkit evaluation activity Dan has created the page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/MerlinEval What's the next step here? | 12:49 |
| neillc | I'm not sure if there will be too many other projects that will use it though | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | neillc: should it need many updates? | 12:50 |
| neillc | Not once plurals are working | 12:50 |
| david-lyle | trying to decide if it should be a repo in openstack | 12:50 |
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| david-lyle | that can be updated after you come to your senses and find a better gig :) | 12:51 |
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| neillc | For use with babel integration with pip is important | 12:51 |
| neillc | So pypi seems to make sense | 12:51 |
| neillc | I seem to be doomed to work on i18n. Don't understand why :p | 12:52 |
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| david-lyle | neillc: no argument on pypi, I guess the question is does the source for that live in a personal github repo or openstack/neillsplugin that openstack can publish too also | 12:52 |
| neillc | Pffff | 12:52 |
| robcresswell | haha | 12:52 |
| neillc | Ah OK. I don't mind either way. | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | second one seems more sensible | 12:53 |
| david-lyle | I think so, but start as your own, and we can source an openstack repo from it | 12:54 |
| neillc | Cool | 12:54 |
| robcresswell | Isn't that how the xstatic packages are supposed to be updated? Though I'm not sure how many actually are. | 12:54 |
| david-lyle | yes | 12:54 |
| david-lyle | turns out there was a missing step in xstatic repo creation by the authors | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | which was including a tox.ini file which allows for the publish job to run | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | that should be fixed as of yesterday | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: I need to look into that more | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | I don't have a clear next step at the moment | 12:57 |
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| robcresswell | Oh nice fix. | 12:57 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, okay, just pinging on that to make sure it wasn't forgot :) | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: always good to prod with a stick occasionally | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | Btw, several bugs on launchpad have been marked as fix commited by infra without bug links. Not sure whats going on. | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | that was the L-1 tagging | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | Ah, okay | 12:59 |
| robcresswell | Should I just mark them L-2, or dig up the relevant bugs? | 12:59 |
| david-lyle | wait committed or released? | 12:59 |
| robcresswell | commited | 12:59 |
| robcresswell | wait let me check | 12:59 |
| david-lyle | do you have an example? | 12:59 |
| robcresswell | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1463838 | 13:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1463838 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "[data processing] Stack trace for invalid cluster details page" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Tatiana Ovchinnikova (tmazur) | 13:00 |
| robcresswell | Also here: | 13:00 |
| robcresswell | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1466744 | 13:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466744 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Integration test test_image_register_unregister failing gate" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Luigi Toscano (ltoscano) | 13:00 |
| robcresswell | We can continue this in other channel anyway, hour is up | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | sure, I think that may be the magic of automation | 13:02 |
| david-lyle | thanks everyone | 13:02 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 13:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 24 13:02:16 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-06-24-12.02.html | 13:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-06-24-12.02.txt | 13:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-06-24-12.02.log.html | 13:02 |
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| ajo | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 24 14:00:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ajo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:00 |
| moshele | hi | 14:00 |
| ajo | hi :) | 14:00 |
| vhoward | o/ | 14:00 |
| vikram | hi | 14:00 |
| mohankumar | Hi | 14:00 |
| gcossu | hi all | 14:00 |
| Ramanjaneya | hello everyone | 14:01 |
| sc68cal | o/ | 14:01 |
| sfinucan | hey | 14:01 |
| ajo | ok, let's give a couple of minutes for anyone missing to join... :) | 14:01 |
| nmj3e | hi | 14:01 |
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| ihrachyshka | o/ | 14:01 |
| ajo | today it's irena's birthday so she won't be around, Irena, Happy Birthday when you read this! ;) | 14:01 |
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| vikram | Happy Birthday Irena | 14:02 |
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| gcossu | happy bday! | 14:02 |
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| vhoward | happy cake day! | 14:02 |
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| ajo | ok I guess we can start, I didn't put an agenda for today, I just wanted to revise the current status of work, and prepare for the QoS sprint next week :) | 14:02 |
| Ramanjaneya | Happy Birthday ! | 14:03 |
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| mohankumar | Happy Birthday Irena : ) | 14:03 |
| ajo | I've seen a lot of progress in DB models, and neutron client, thanks Ramanjaneya , vikram and huawei india folks! ;) | 14:03 |
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| ajo | any comments about this? | 14:03 |
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| ajo | #topic status update | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status update (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:03 | |
| vikram | thanks ajo | 14:04 |
| Ramanjaneya | thank you ajo | 14:04 |
| vhoward | added the rfe for the dscp markings…https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1468353 …if we doing status updates | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1468353 in neutron "QoS DSCP marking rule support" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Victor Howard (victor-r-howard) | 14:04 |
| vhoward | er yeah | 14:04 |
| moshele | ajo: can you share the data model commit | 14:04 |
| ajo | thanks vhoward :-) | 14:05 |
| ajo | moshele, yes: | 14:05 |
| vhoward | np | 14:05 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/195050 | 14:05 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/195050 datamodel | 14:05 |
| ajo | not sure if link accepts extra comments ;) | 14:05 |
| ajo | in general: | 14:05 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:neutron-qos,n,z | 14:05 |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1468353 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1468353 in neutron "QoS DSCP marking rule support" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Victor Howard (victor-r-howard) | 14:06 |
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| ajo | I did a split of the monolitic patch with the API extension, svc plugin and the AFTER_READ callbacks | 14:07 |
| ajo | so we can split work now/during sprint | 14:07 |
| vikram | How to join remotely | 14:07 |
| ajo | and ihrachyshka has been working on the design to let the plugins/ml2 declare the supported rules | 14:08 |
| ajo | vikram, let's talk about it when we move topics, is that ok? :) | 14:08 |
| vikram | ok | 14:08 |
| ajo | I wanted to rise that specific discussion :) | 14:08 |
| vikram | ;) | 14:09 |
| ajo | moshele, is also WIP on the agent extension, and he's breaking up in smaller patches too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189723/ | 14:09 |
| ajo | moshele, any comment about it? :) | 14:09 |
| moshele | yes it will be 3 commits: agent extension mgr , QosAgent , SR-IOV Agent driver | 14:09 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, I wanted to add something for that in qos plugin but it seems that I cannot do it without rebasing your patches, so postponed service plugin side | 14:10 |
| ihrachyshka | moshele, cool, looking fwd to see it split, then I'll be of more help reviewing it | 14:10 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka feel free to rebase/fiddle around the patches, or we can just sync in the sprint :) | 14:10 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka & moshele , thank you to for working on this | 14:10 |
| ajo | to->too | 14:11 |
| ajo | ':D | 14:11 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, nah, I don't think rebasing helps too much. also, on relevant note, we need to rebase branch anyway. otherwise gate fails. | 14:11 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, correct, I have checked with infra how to do it: | 14:11 |
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| ajo | #link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#feature-branches | 14:11 |
| ajo | So I'd try it soon (tomorrow I guess) | 14:12 |
| ajo | I've been investigating on the generic RPC part, and I've almost have a new patchset. | 14:12 |
| ajo | I've been playing with messaging, fanout queues, and oslo versioned objects | 14:12 |
| moshele | ajo: is there some POC code you can share? | 14:13 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, for that new RPC approach, I kindly suggest to raise it in wider community | 14:13 |
| ajo | I believe we really can do it as I was proposing, and thanks for the good amount of comments / suggestions. | 14:13 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, it's too much of a change in paradigm to do it in qos tenet | 14:13 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, ack, I will raise it on the list for higher audience | 14:13 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, or move the devref to master | 14:14 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka, does that sound ok? :) | 14:14 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, both to my taste ;) | 14:14 |
| ajo | ack :) | 14:14 |
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| ihrachyshka | I want people from oslo and nova to chime in on upgrade scenarios | 14:14 |
| ajo | I'm trying to loop in the people with experience in that stuff, but I guess ML will work better :) | 14:14 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, as for versioned objects, I don't want an oslo/multiproject to happen first, we could try the approach ourselves, and then export if that works for all | 14:15 |
| ajo | may be oslo_versionedobjects_pubsub :P | 14:15 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, we'll need to look into o.vo in L anyway. | 14:15 |
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| ajo | ihrachyshka, yes, I'm looking into it already, and we can support a mixed environent | 14:16 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, yeah, that's why I want oslo guys there. it seems like a generic approach that may fit oslo_messaging or whatelse | 14:16 |
| ajo | what you want published... you need to add a VO layer (with this specific approach) | 14:16 |
| ajo | oslo_remotecallbacks :P | 14:16 |
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| ajo | I'm too bad for names | 14:16 |
| ihrachyshka | oslo_remotee | 14:16 |
| ihrachyshka | :) | 14:16 |
| ajo | but again, in my own experience, when you try to do something from-oslo first, needs more time, than if you do it in-project first, and then export | 14:17 |
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| ajo | we cannot risk waiting another cycle to get QoS for those details, we could export, refine, and readopt later | 14:17 |
| ajo | but their feedback would be very valuable | 14:17 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, I agree. we can start in neutron, but design wise, we need more eyes | 14:17 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, o.vo started like nova thingy | 14:17 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, if they had tried to discuss that U/S with all, they'd still be bike shedding | 14:18 |
| ajo | :-) | 14:18 |
| ihrachyshka | I don't feel like making final call on upgrade and rpc versioning | 14:18 |
| ajo | but insted, they show it was a good approach by making it work | 14:18 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, wait for my next PS ;) | 14:18 |
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| ajo | I know, more -1's ... but I believe we're heading into a good direction | 14:19 |
| ajo | let's keep the discussion on the review :) | 14:19 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/190635 | 14:20 |
| ajo | ok | 14:20 |
| ajo | #topic mid cycle sprint | 14:20 |
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| ajo | I plan to send a ML message to raise awareness and decide how to do remote participation | 14:20 |
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| ajo | last meeting we were talking about doing video conference at the end of each day, and keeping an etherpad/log | 14:20 |
| ajo | I've been advised that probably IRC meetings work best | 14:21 |
| ajo | so we could held them in #openstack-neutron or a separate channel if that becomes too noisy | 14:21 |
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| ajo | vikram: what time of day (UTC) do you start/end working in your timezone? | 14:21 |
| ajo | vhoward, and you? | 14:21 |
| ajo | sc68cal ? :) | 14:22 |
| vikram | We are 5:30 ahead of UTC | 14:22 |
| sc68cal | I'm keeping US EST hours | 14:22 |
| sc68cal | so UTC -4 | 14:22 |
| vhoward | i'm on EST as well | 14:23 |
| ajo | :D we are all around the globe | 14:23 |
| vikram | start=5:00hrs and end=19:00hrs | 14:23 |
| ajo | one plan was to have an afternoon meeting every afternoon (14:00 UTC) | 14:23 |
| ajo | Tue/Wed/Thu | 14:23 |
| vikram | works good for me | 14:23 |
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| sc68cal | that sounds reasonable | 14:24 |
| ajo | vikram, if that's not too late for you, and sc68cal /vhoward can live with it for a few days too, that'd be good, I guess | 14:24 |
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| vhoward | sounds good | 14:24 |
| vikram | I am okay ajo | 14:24 |
| ajo | we could use #openstack-neutron with fallback to #openstack-neutron-qos | 14:24 |
| ajo | thanks vikram , sc68cal , vhoward :) | 14:24 |
| ajo | I will put the details in a message to the mailing list. | 14:25 |
| ajo | and arrange an etherpad where we could keep a log of work | 14:25 |
| vikram | +1 | 14:25 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, thanks for driving all bureaucracy. it's tough. | 14:26 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka: it's just the boring part :) | 14:26 |
| vikram | but most importatnt:) | 14:26 |
| vhoward | yes thank you | 14:26 |
| ajo | said that, with coordination, please know I'm ok with anybody taking over any of my patches to handle comments, etc... | 14:26 |
| ajo | we may sync via patch comments / irc when doing such things :) | 14:27 |
| vikram | I think we can take up the extension patches | 14:27 |
| ajo | vikram, there's interesting stuff to discover in there about how to configure the URIs of the resources as we want | 14:27 |
| vhoward | we will have to coordinate on where you need help/the june3rd etherpad seems almost full | 14:27 |
| ajo | the default helpers don't allow that, so I guess we need to construct controllers, etc manually | 14:27 |
| vhoward | i like the idea of just fixing commented patchsets | 14:28 |
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| vikram | ajo: we can resolve open issues together :) | 14:28 |
| ajo | may be we can use an etherpad as a locking mechanism to say when somebody is editing a patch. | 14:28 |
| vhoward | +1 | 14:28 |
| vhoward | i like that | 14:28 |
| ajo | like.. keeping a list of patches, and who's editing... when you submit your patchset, and finish editing, you can send it back... | 14:29 |
| vikram | +1 | 14:29 |
| ajo | to "free" | 14:29 |
| ajo | or if you have to stop working on it... | 14:29 |
| ajo | the idea is not to block others | 14:29 |
| nmj3e | nice | 14:29 |
| ajo | this is very collaborative, so I guess it's ok for very obvious things, big changes in design would need discussion | 14:29 |
| ajo | with the author/other people, we can use the daily meetings for that :) | 14:30 |
| vikram | over IRC? | 14:30 |
| ajo | vikram, irc meetings should be good for discussion... | 14:30 |
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| ajo | or the etherpad or review comments themselves... | 14:31 |
| vikram | how abt daily meetings | 14:31 |
| ajo | vikram, what do you mean? | 14:31 |
| vikram | <ajo> with the author/other people, we can use the daily meetings for that :) | 14:31 |
| vikram | i didn't get it fully | 14:31 |
| ajo | vikram, I mean, that taking over others patch is ok when we're following a colletive plan, but for introducing big design changes we need to ask via review comments, or in the daily 14:00 UTC meeting | 14:32 |
| vikram | ok got it .. bingo | 14:32 |
| ajo | ':D sorry, I'm not very good at explaining myself sometimes | 14:32 |
| ajo | ok, any questions about the sprint? | 14:33 |
| vikram | i am slow to understand either :) | 14:33 |
| ajo | nah :) | 14:33 |
| vikram | When you will share the etherpad? | 14:33 |
| ajo | I'll send a message to ML with you all on CC | 14:34 |
| ajo | probably during tomorrow morning | 14:34 |
| vikram | ok great | 14:34 |
| ajo | #topic other stuff | 14:34 |
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| ajo | sc68cal: ping, we may need your help to setup the experimental job | 14:34 |
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| ajo | sc68cal, if you couldn't do it before the sprint, any pointers would be welcome. | 14:35 |
| sc68cal | ajo: Are there patches landed in the qos branch yet? | 14:36 |
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| sc68cal | making an experimental job with no code to exercise is probably not wise | 14:36 |
| ajo | sc68cal, nope, but we could use the experimental job to test those patches at least | 14:36 |
| ajo | sc68cal, can't you trigger the test over an specific patch? | 14:37 |
| ajo | may be I'm trying to go too fast? :) | 14:37 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, you mean, a job that hardcodes some HEAD that is not master? | 14:37 |
| sc68cal | I'll chat with people at the midcycle and see if they have any suggestions | 14:37 |
| ihrachyshka | s/master/feature branch HEAD | 14:38 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka, we just need something that triggers the neutron full test with the service configured in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf | 14:38 |
| ajo | sc68cal, I guess that's all we need, right ^ ? | 14:38 |
| ajo | hmm, and same for api tests | 14:38 |
| ihrachyshka | ajo, yeah, but service is not committed, so you need another HEDA | 14:39 |
| ihrachyshka | *HEAD | 14:39 |
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| ajo | "head" isn't the specific patch you're testing? | 14:39 |
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| ajo | you go to patch in the chain... and trigger the job... the job installs the service, and runs it.. | 14:39 |
| sc68cal | I'll look into what we can do to test the qos feature branch - I know there is a BRANCH_OVERRIDE that devstack-gate has | 14:40 |
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| ajo | thanks sc68cal | 14:40 |
| ajo | so far we will be having unit tests, functional tests, | 14:41 |
| sc68cal | it's more likely that we'll get something going after the qos sprint next week, when we have code in the branch | 14:41 |
| ajo | but we will need some arrangement for api-tests, I guess | 14:41 |
| ajo | ok | 14:41 |
| vhoward | so quick question, how are you implementing bandwidth api mods, we'd like to model that for dscp…if its part of the main qos patch we can help add it, sorry if its a dumb question | 14:41 |
| ajo | let's run those locally during the sprint then, and sc68cal , ask if you can, at least to provide some pointers if we need to do it | 14:41 |
| vhoward | can take that outside meeting btw | 14:41 |
| ajo | vhoward, no dumb question, wait | 14:42 |
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| ajo | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/qos-api-extension.html | 14:42 |
| ajo | look for "Create Rule Request" | 14:42 |
| ajo | is that what you mean? | 14:42 |
| ajo | or do you mean the actual code supporting that? | 14:43 |
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| ajo | the former doesn't exist yet in full... | 14:43 |
| ajo | it works, but on a different URI | 14:43 |
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| vhoward | was just trying to see if i had to include the api portion within my spec, i'll read up more but looks like we just include our json then the client calls to implement? have to dig a bit i think | 14:44 |
| * sc68cal has to hop in car to go to the midcycle | 14:44 | |
| ajo | vhoward, may be an exaple of API calls creating dscp rules would be good, not sure if that's needed for the new RFE anyway | 14:45 |
| ajo | sc68cal, enjoy!! ;D | 14:45 |
| ajo | vikram remainded me that we need to gather feedback on this for the future: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/flow-classifier | 14:45 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190463/ | 14:45 |
| ajo | please review if you have spare time | 14:45 |
| vhoward | k, thanks ajo | 14:46 |
| vikram | thanks ajo | 14:46 |
| vikram | we have the discussion about this over SFC IRC | 14:46 |
| ajo | :-) | 14:46 |
| ajo | fun ahead! ;) | 14:46 |
| vikram | if someone interested please join :) | 14:46 |
| ajo | vikram, what's the time of that meeting and what's the expanded version of "SFC" ? | 14:47 |
| ajo | I tried to join once, but I couldn't make it btw | 14:47 |
| vikram | SFC: Service Function chaining | 14:47 |
| ajo | true, that's it ;D | 14:47 |
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| vikram | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Service_Chaining_meeting | 14:48 |
| ajo | :) | 14:48 |
| ajo | ok, any question or any topic that I missed? | 14:48 |
| ajo | or shall we #endmeeting ? | 14:48 |
| ajo | ok, thanks everybody for joining once again :) | 14:49 |
| vikram | bye | 14:50 |
| ajo | keep up the good work! ;) | 14:50 |
| vikram | you too :) | 14:50 |
| gcossu | bye | 14:50 |
| ajo | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 24 14:50:30 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| moshele | bye | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2015/neutron_qos.2015-06-24-14.00.html | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2015/neutron_qos.2015-06-24-14.00.txt | 14:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2015/neutron_qos.2015-06-24-14.00.log.html | 14:50 |
| ajo | bye :) | 14:50 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 24 21:00:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| alaski | anyone around for cells today? | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:01 |
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| alaski | excellent | 21:01 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 21:01 |
| alaski | #topic Tempest | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:01 | |
| * alaski hands it over to melwitt | 21:01 | |
| melwitt | the cells job is still looking in good shape goo.gl/b7R8wq | 21:02 |
| melwitt | we have had a ML thread about whether to make it voting right now http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067723.html | 21:02 |
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| melwitt | and I think we'll do a vote about whether to make it voting at tomorrow's nova meeting | 21:02 |
| alaski | awesome | 21:03 |
| bauzas | cool | 21:03 |
| melwitt | at which time I can un -W the voting patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190894/ and make it depend on the project-config change for the regex https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194410/ | 21:03 |
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| melwitt | if it gets voted to turn on, I mean | 21:04 |
| alaski | heh, or just be a rebel | 21:04 |
| bauzas | :) | 21:04 |
| melwitt | yeah!! | 21:04 |
| melwitt | other than that, I opened a new bug for a rare-ish failure https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1466696 | 21:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466696 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Cells: Race between instance 'unlock' and 'stop' can cause 'stop' to fail" [Low,Confirmed] | 21:04 |
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| melwitt | with the corresponding logstash query http://goo.gl/2reb35 | 21:05 |
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| alaski | oooh | 21:05 |
| alaski | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1466696 | 21:05 |
| melwitt | I think that's all the status I have on the tempest job | 21:05 |
| alaski | cool, thanks | 21:06 |
| alaski | that looks like a tricky bug too | 21:06 |
| melwitt | yeah. I couldn't immediately think of a way to address that one | 21:07 |
| alaski | out of order messages are tough with the system in place now | 21:07 |
| alaski | well, more eyes will be good | 21:08 |
| melwitt | right | 21:08 |
| alaski | #topic Specs | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:08 | |
| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190147/ is the only open spec I'm aware of now | 21:09 |
| melwitt | I have uploaded a spec last night about the database connection switching https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194935/ | 21:09 |
| alaski | nice | 21:09 |
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| alaski | added it to the priorities etherpad | 21:10 |
| melwitt | I was wondering about the spec deadline that's like... tomorrow. we don't yet have all the specs we need to accomplish a simple 'nova boot' with cells v2 do we? can we not have anymore specs after tomorrow? | 21:11 |
| alaski | I'm not really sure what's going to happen with that | 21:11 |
| * dansmith staggers in late | 21:11 | |
| belmoreira | We add the migration plan to #190147 | 21:11 |
| alaski | I think we have enough for a boot, but with some db tables in the cell vs in the api where we'd want them | 21:12 |
| bauzas | melwitt: I sincerely wonder if by any chance some freeze exception can occur | 21:12 |
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| melwitt | alaski: hm, okay | 21:13 |
| alaski | melwitt: it may not be pretty, but I think we have all the pieces at least proposed as specs | 21:13 |
| alaski | bauzas: we may need to attempt that, but we're also getting to a point where we have enough work to last the cycle I think | 21:14 |
| bauzas | alaski: agreed | 21:14 |
| alaski | speaking from my personal velocity recently :( | 21:14 |
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| alaski | belmoreira: great. It looks like edleafe still wanted a bit of clarification, but it's looking good | 21:15 |
| alaski | anything else on specs? | 21:16 |
| belmoreira | we are waiting for more reviews before a new iteration | 21:16 |
| bauzas | belmoreira: the overall glance at the spec was good IMHO | 21:16 |
| bauzas | belmoreira: I'll vote on that soon | 21:16 |
| alaski | belmoreira: okay. I'll look at that again | 21:17 |
| belmoreira | bauzas: great | 21:17 |
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| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 21:17 |
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| alaski | anything people would like to discuss? | 21:18 |
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| belmoreira | alaski: can you be more verbose in your comment on #192098 :) | 21:18 |
| belmoreira | have no idea what you are asking for :) | 21:18 |
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| alaski | belmoreira: ahh, rather than having an integer field there with just the id, have an ObjectField there will the cell_mapping object | 21:20 |
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| alaski | because the only use of cell_id will be to get the object later, so it might as well be loaded at the start | 21:20 |
| alaski | so get_by_host will need to join the cell_mapping table, then load it in _from_db_object | 21:21 |
| belmoreira | ahhh... ok | 21:21 |
| bauzas | right | 21:21 |
| bauzas | is that change tracked in the etherpad? | 21:22 |
| alaski | bauzas: not sure | 21:22 |
| alaski | it is now | 21:23 |
| alaski | anything else? | 21:23 |
| bauzas | coolness | 21:23 |
| melwitt | speaking of etherpads, I noticed the etherpad we keep referencing in our specs is somehow now in chinese https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-cells | 21:23 |
| melwitt | (according to google translate anyway) | 21:23 |
| alaski | wow | 21:23 |
| belmoreira | :) | 21:24 |
| melwitt | haha, yeah | 21:24 |
| bauzas | ??? | 21:25 |
| alaski | I wonder if we can revert that back somehow | 21:25 |
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| melwitt | I'll see if I can do something. I can see the old content in the timeslider so at worst a copy-paste can be done | 21:26 |
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| alaski | looks like it went back and forth a few times | 21:27 |
| alaski | melwitt: thanks | 21:27 |
| alaski | that seems like it for the day, unless there's a last minute topic? | 21:28 |
| alaski | See you all next week. | 21:29 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 21:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 24 21:29:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-06-24-21.00.html | 21:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-06-24-21.00.txt | 21:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-06-24-21.00.log.html | 21:29 |
| bauzas | alaski: ty | 21:29 |
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| btully | test | 22:16 |
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