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mesterydougwig kevinbenton amotoki carl_baldwin: Drivers meeting, but I know dougwig carl_baldwin and kevinbenton aren't here ...15:00
mesterySo amotoki: Shall we cancel today?15:00
kevinbentoni'm here now15:00
mesterykevinbenton: Wow, awesome!15:00
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mesterykevinbenton: Unless we get amotoki here, I propose we cancel15:01
mesterykevinbenton: Unless you want to wax poetic to me15:01
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kevinbentoni just had one RFE that I wanted to make sure was okay15:01
regXboimestery, kevinbenton: we could talk about routed networks with the time :)15:01
amotokiI am here. I am okay with either choice.15:01
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kevinbentonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147733115:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1477331 in neutron "RFE: Allow a range of VXLAN multicast groups" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to John Nielsen (r-2ohn-d)15:02
mesterykevinbenton: Bleah! OK, lets do a short meeting15:02
mestery#startmeeting neutron-drivers15:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 28 15:02:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers'15:02
mesterykevinbenton: Can you re-propose that RFE so it lands in the logs?15:02
kevinbentonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147733115:02
kevinbenton#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147733115:02
kevinbentonit's pretty straigtforward and the patch is done at this poing15:03
kevinbentonpoint*15:03
mesterykevinbenton: I agree15:04
mesterykevinbenton: Please comment in the bug that this one is good to go15:04
amotokiit looks reasonable. Linux bridge support it.15:04
regXboiI'm not a driver, but I agree with kevinbenton (I've been looking at it for a while)15:04
kevinbentonmestery: ack15:05
kevinbentonthat's all i wanted to bring up today, routed networks are going to require more discussion on the mailing list i think15:06
mesterykevinbenton: Ack on routed networks15:06
mesterySo, kevinbenton amotoki, I really also wanted to highlight the reveiws of Liberty-3 items15:06
mesteryWe need to focus on those15:06
mesteryAnd really shepard those things in15:06
mesteryThat's all I had15:07
mesteryAnything else?15:07
regXboicookies?15:07
amotokimestery: question: when and how do we target rfe bugs to a milestone?15:07
mesteryamotoki: Once it's been given the green light to move forward, please target it to Liberty-3 at this point15:08
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mesteryBut I really wanted to highlight that even though we have no deadlines, at this point, with 5 weeks left, we need to shift gears to merging what's already in Liberty-315:08
amotokimestery: got it15:08
mesteryBecause there is al ot left to merge15:08
amotokitotally agree15:08
kevinbentondo you have a link to liberty-3 items?15:09
mestery#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-315:09
mesterykevinbenton: ^^^15:09
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mesterySo, thanks for attending kevinbenton and amotoki!15:10
mestery#endmeeting15:10
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul 28 15:10:25 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:10
kevinbentonthx15:10
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/neutron_drivers.2015-07-28-15.02.html15:10
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/neutron_drivers.2015-07-28-15.02.txt15:10
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/neutron_drivers.2015-07-28-15.02.log.html15:10
amotokithanks15:10
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briancurtin#startmeeting python-openstacksdk19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 28 19:01:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
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etoewso/19:02
briancurtinif you're around for the meeting, which i dont think anyone currently is until terry arrives late, say hi. not much to talk about right now anyway19:02
briancurtinoh hello19:02
* etoews here today, gone tomorrow19:02
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briancurtinthe only thing i have on the list until we're ready for a release is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197741/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191535/ (the latter of which i just +2'ed)19:04
stevellehui19:04
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etoewson the latter, apparently it has some impact on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199318/19:05
etoewsin the BaseFunctionalTest19:06
briancurtini cant imagine how those are in any way related, but ok19:06
briancurtinoh19:06
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etoewsi suspect the occ config thing won't help me at all19:08
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etoewsoh wait...maybe.19:09
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etoewsonce it merges, i'll rebase...after i get back from vacation.19:10
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briancurtinon 197741 i'm still not sure if we should be solving that problem within the SDK. providers using a provider-specific naming scheme seems like a thing to solve within a plugin, but terry hinted that that's true and this may still help, but i guess i dont totally get it then19:11
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briancurtinsince rackspace has a few of these "rax:<something>" entries, i think we should handle that in our plugin. i dont want anyone to be exposed to "rax" anywhere19:11
etoewsseems like a path to vendor madness19:14
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briancurtinid prefer to just enable providers to load something, but not take it any further. us or anyone else using weird names or doing different things should just be handled outside of the sdk. if we need to subclass ServiceFilter and implement that on our own, that's probably what i'd do19:20
briancurtinand it's really only a problem taht needs to be solved for rackspace and HP plugins. nothing within upstream openstack appears to need this19:21
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terrylhoweo/19:22
briancurtinterrylhowe: the only thing i have on the list until we're ready for a release is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197741/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191535/ (the latter of which i just +2'ed)19:23
briancurtinterrylhowe: we were just getting into talking about 197741, and im not sure we should be dealing with that within the SDK. only HP and rackspace have things named like that, so i think that's somethign we should be handling entirely within our plugins19:24
terrylhowemaybe we should skip 197741 and go with a service type alias thing19:24
terrylhoweI was working on aliases on my flight today19:24
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briancurtinterrylhowe: do we need this service alias thing for a release?19:24
terrylhowewell, we’ll need something for the various plugins but not really for a release19:25
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etoewsit is possible that private openstack clouds can change their service name/type in keystone.19:26
terrylhoweyes19:26
etoewswhy would they do that instead of the "devstack" default? who knows.19:26
briancurtinterrylhowe: i think we should go on with a release then if 191535 checks out. right now just about every service will work fine as-is. a few with the colon just won't and we can get it in the next release19:26
terrylhowesounds good, 191535 is important for the OSC POC19:27
terrylhowethe service type alias thing is not so important for that19:27
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briancurtinetoews: will you have time to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191535/?19:29
etoewssure19:30
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etoewsfyi, the service type/name could change as a result of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181393/5/specs/service-catalog.rst19:33
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briancurtinetoews: what's the timeframe on something like that being implemented?19:37
etoews¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:37
etoewslet's see if we can find annegentle19:38
etoewsthe ping is out19:38
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etoewshello annegentle19:42
annegentlehey etoews19:42
etoewsso the service type/name could possible change as a result of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181393/5/specs/service-catalog.rst correct?19:42
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annegentleSo there's also the name changes for consistency in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201160/19:43
annegentleand the one that depends on that one, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201670/19:43
annegentleand I still need an assignee for writing a test for names19:44
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annegentleI talked about it at a cross project meeting about 2 weeks ago19:44
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annegentleseems generally appreciated19:45
annegentleany questions about it? Still under discussion19:45
etoewswe really just need to know if we should provide some flexibility within the sdk to handle different service name/type19:47
etoewsto answer briancurtin and considering those are all spec19:47
etoewsdoh19:47
annegentleah okay. I think so.19:48
annegentleFor example, check out this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206198/19:48
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etoewsto answer briancurtin's question, considering those are all specs, it's anybody's guess when they'll be implemented.19:48
annegentleBarbican's change from Key management service to Key manager service for example19:48
annegentleWeird, I don't see any question from Brian. Anywho. The idea is that the names could then be used when reviewing.19:48
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annegentleBut yes, it's fallable.19:49
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annegentleThe JSON Schema in line 154 could offer some testing against a known list.19:49
briancurtinetoews: so...should we care about unimplemented specs?19:49
briancurtinat least in terms of implementing code against them within the SDK19:50
briancurtinseems like jumping too far ahead and being *too* flexible until we know we need to be19:50
annegentlebriancurtin: it's a fair question. What do you want the world to look like?19:50
briancurtini dont have time to care about the entire ecosystem. i just need to write code that works in real life and lets people build stuff.19:51
annegentlebriancurtin: then yeah, I would focus on now19:52
etoewsbriancurtin: i know what you mean. i think we don't need to as long as we don't design ourselves into a corner. meaning if we did need to add code later that handle differing service name/type in the sdk that it wouldn't affect the public interface of the sdk.19:52
etoewsdoes that make sense?19:52
briancurtinyep19:53
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annegentleI sound a little too philosophical :)19:53
etoews:)19:53
etoewsohmmmmmmm19:54
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briancurtinanything in these last few minutes to cover?19:56
etoewsi'm off on vacation. back aug. 10.19:56
annegentlelucky!19:56
annegentle:)19:57
etoews\o/19:57
terrylhoweetoews: you just got back!19:57
etoewsi know. :)19:57
terrylhowejust a little envy here19:58
etoewsi had a bunch saved up. gotta spend it sometime.19:59
briancurtin#endmeeting20:01
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briancurtinthanks everyone20:01
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etoewsthanks all. see you later.20:01
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pballandhello congress peeps :)22:59
RuiChenhi pballand23:00
jwyhowdy23:00
pballand #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting23:00
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pballandhmm23:00
pballand#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting23:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 28 23:01:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.23:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting'23:01
pballandthinrichs had a conflict this week, so will be running the meeting23:01
masahitohi23:02
Yingxin1:)23:02
zhenzanzGood morning and good afternoon:-)23:02
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pballandthere are a couple things on the agenda, but before I get to that, does anyone have somethign they want to add?23:03
masahitonothing from me.23:03
pballandok, I’ll go with my items, and people can chime in after :)23:04
pballandfirst item is meeting time - it looks like 5pm pacific works best for everyone, but Tuesday doens’t work23:04
pballandso the plan is to stick with 5pm, but pick a new day23:04
pballandhere is a poll to voice your preference:23:05
pballand#link http://doodle.com/5brc9vhggvtiipk323:05
masahito#topic Meetingtime23:05
pballandmasahito: thanks :)23:05
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pballandit would be really helpful if everyone could spend a few seconds to check days that work for them23:06
pballandany questions or comments on meeting time?23:06
masahitopballand:  ;)23:06
pballandok, moving on…23:07
pballand#topic Tokyo summit talks23:07
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pballandVoting for talks closes this friday23:07
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pballandif you haven’t already, please take the time to express your preferences23:08
pballandhere are a couple talks that are related to congress:23:08
pballand“Unifying Congress and Keystone Policies”23:09
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pballand#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/438823:09
pballand“Congress Hands On Lab”23:09
pballand#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/439623:09
pballand“Telco usecase for Congress”23:09
pballand#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/vote-for-speakers/presentation/461723:09
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pballanddoes anyone have other talks they want to point out?23:10
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pballandmoving right along…23:11
pballand#topic Midcycle sprint23:11
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pballandWe are having a midcycle meetup / code sprint next week on Aug 6/723:11
pballandplease RSVP if you are attending in person so we can get a headcount for food23:11
pballand#link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/congress-liberty-midcycle-sprint-tickets-1765473177823:12
pballandI know some people have expressed interest in attending remotely, which is great as well23:12
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RuiChenwe can access it online?23:13
pballandRuiChen: we will definitely communicate on IRC, and can set up a teleconference23:13
pballandin the past, voice/video has been spotty, however23:14
RuiChencool23:14
pballandour main focus is to crank on improving the message bus, so communication and code contributions will be helpful both in person and remote23:15
pballandany other questions about the sprint?23:15
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pballand#topic Project milestones23:16
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pballandthe Liberty-2 milestone is this week23:16
pballandLiberty-3 and feature fress is Sept 1-323:16
pballandWe have several changes that are targeted at Liberty-2.  Please update launchpad to reflect the current state of tasks you are working on.23:17
pballandIf the code is not already merged, retarget to Liberty-323:17
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RuiChenget it23:18
zhenzanzsorry, bp/action-listing may miss Liberty-2. The main reason is that we can't find an effective way to parse execution methods Congress would call23:18
pballandthinrichs told me he would be working on retargetting blueprints23:18
zhenzanzI did some work last week, novaclient has very good document for API23:18
zhenzanzbut neutronclient is terrible23:19
pballandzhenzanz: good to know - sounds like you are making good progress despite the missed target23:19
zhenzanzand it decorates all APIs with APIParamsCall so we cannot inspect the original function doc and args23:20
pballandzhenzanz: are you blocked, or is there just more work to do than anticipated?23:21
zhenzanzso we may merge the main logic at first23:21
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zhenzanzI think it's blocked if we want to go the parsing way.23:22
zhenzanzor is it acceptable that we just list the API names if we cannot parse doc and args?23:24
masahitozhenzanz: If we need some changes for neutron, I can ask neutron folks of it.23:24
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zhenzanzThank you masahito. Maybe two things:23:25
pballandmasahito: it would be great to check with the Neutron team for a way to optimize this23:25
zhenzanz1. save original function info in the decorate23:25
pballand#topic Status updates23:25
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zhenzanz2. provides enough document for APIs and their arguments23:25
RuiChenis there same issue for other clients, like: heatclient, cinderclient?23:26
masahitook. please tell me little details about the two things.23:26
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masahito1. is it for neutronclient, right?23:27
zhenzanzyes23:27
masahito2. The document means python document written in the codes, doesn't it?23:28
zhenzanzI didn't try other client yet23:28
zhenzanzyes, the inline doc in code23:28
zhenzanzcurrently there is no doc for parameters23:28
masahitogot it. I'll tell him these.23:29
zhenzanzthanks23:29
pballandmasahito, zhenzanz : thanks for working that out23:30
pballandany other status updates?23:30
Yingxin1yes, I have finished my first spec for rpc-for-dse, it's now in review state23:31
veenapballand: bp python3 support is work in progress23:31
Yingxin1masahito: thanks for reviewing, I've replied23:32
pballandYingxin1: thanks - will take a look23:33
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Yingxin1thank you23:33
pballandveena: fantastic - how’s it going? any blockers or questions?23:33
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masahitoYingxin1: you're welcom. I'll check your replay.23:34
Yingxin1masahito: :-D23:35
RuiChenI working on bug/1473924, I can push a demo about refactor neutronv2 driver today, welcome to reveiwing23:35
veenapballand: yeah, the build has failed with changing basetring to six.string_types. many test cases failed. I'll take a look.23:35
veenapballand: couldn't check it yesterday23:36
pballandveena: ok, glad you’re pushing forward23:36
pballandRuiChen: great23:36
veenapballand: Thanks23:37
pballandspeaking of test failures - how’s tempest stuff going?  Is everying passing after Zhenzan’s patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203504/)23:37
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pballandit would be nice to enable gating on tempest again23:38
zhenzanzI can pass all tempest cases in my environment23:38
zhenzanzbut my two tempest patches are still under review23:38
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zhenzanzhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/202870/23:39
zhenzanzhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/203019/23:39
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pballandzhenzanz: thanks for the update - do  we need to ping some tempest cores to review?23:41
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zhenzanzI add Jordan Pittier, but progress is slow23:42
pballandok - if anyone has time to review and add some +1’s, maybe that will get their attention23:45
zhenzanzthanks23:45
pballandany other updates?23:45
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masahitoI have23:46
masahitoI've been writing a new spec named 'policy-violation-history'23:46
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pballandmasahito: cool - do you have a link?23:47
masahitobut there are some choices in its implementation, so it's hard to define changes in the spec.23:47
masahitopballand: sorry, I've not submitted yes.23:48
masahitonot yes, but yet.23:48
pballandmasahito: there are placeholders for alternatives in the spec format - I would suggest picking whatever choice you are leaning toward, but be sure to fully document alternatives so others can voice their suggestions during review23:49
pballandor, we can dicusss here or in #congress :-)23:49
pballand(hard to discuss before seeing the spec though)23:50
masahitoI think so.23:50
masahitoI'll fully document in the spec and write a best change I think as definition. please wait few days.23:51
pballandmasahito: sounds great, thanks23:52
pballandwe have just a few minutes left - is there anything anyone else wants to cover?23:52
pballand#topic Open Discussion23:52
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pballandok, thanks everyone for participating23:53
zhenzanzwhat's the working time for the sprint23:54
RuiChenplease help to review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205920/ , if it's merged, I finish the BP version-list-API, thanks23:54
pballandzhenzanz: since the sprint is in Palo Alto, I expect most discussions will be between 9am - 5pm PDT23:54
pballandcode and reviews can be any time, of course23:55
zhenzanzGot it, thanks. I'll try join remotely23:55
RuiChenit's congressclient part code of this BP, congress part had been merged.23:55
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pballandRuiChen: will do23:56
RuiChenpballand: thank you23:56
pballandI expect thinrichs will want to update the meeting time and day again ASAP, so keep an eye on the mailing list and web page for next week’s time23:56
pballandThat’s it for this week, thanks for joining and have a great week!23:58
pballand#endmeeting23:59
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