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| SergeyLukjanov | hey sahara folks! | 14:00 |
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| elmiko | hi! | 14:00 |
| NikitaKonovalov | hi | 14:00 |
| aignatov | o/ | 14:00 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 13 14:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| weiting | O/ | 14:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 14:00 |
| sreshetnyak | o/ | 14:00 |
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| vgridnev | o/ | 14:01 |
| AndreyPavlov | hi | 14:01 |
| esikachev | hi | 14:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, NikitaKonovalov) | 14:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon | 14:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | folks, please :) | 14:01 |
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| tosky | hi | 14:01 |
| pino|work | o/ | 14:01 |
| crobertsrh | hello/ | 14:02 |
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| kchen | o/ | 14:02 |
| huichun | hi | 14:02 |
| egafford | Hello! | 14:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | ok, so I have not got any new patches | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | several stuff got merged in horizon this week | 14:02 |
| NikitaKonovalov | @vgridnev has found an issue with event log patch | 14:03 |
| vgridnev | and also horizon have new meeting where you can to approve your bp filed to horizon | 14:03 |
| elmiko | nice | 14:03 |
| kchen | Hi all, I recently installed a devstack with Sahara, but I found cannot open the Horizon mainpage. I am not sure whether you guy met this. | 14:04 |
| NikitaKonovalov | vgridnev: thanks for fixing it quickly | 14:04 |
| kchen | I reported a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1483955 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1483955 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Horizon homepage shows internal server error" [Undecided,New] | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | @NikitaKonovalov have you seen working horizon in devstack last week? :) | 14:04 |
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| vgridnev | NikitaKonovalov, fairly it was done by esikachev | 14:04 |
| vgridnev | found* | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | kchen, okay, we need to take a look on it | 14:04 |
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| crobertsrh | I think I may have also seen that one yesterday, late in the day. | 14:05 |
| kchen | I think it is like a sahara dashboard issue. | 14:05 |
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| elmiko | we've also had a few users report issues with horizon/sahara integration in kilo | 14:05 |
| tmckay | hi folks, sorry, quick break between meetings went too long :) | 14:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | NikitaKonovalov, crobertsrh, vgridnev, have you testing horizon with sahara after moving our code to contrib? | 14:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tmckay :) | 14:05 |
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| crobertsrh | I had been using it. Then I grabbed the latest yesterday and saw issues. | 14:05 |
| tmckay | oh, I have a very strange Horizon bug that I talked to crobertsrh about. May be only F21 | 14:06 |
| crobertsrh | I was hoping it was just something that I was doing wrong locally. | 14:06 |
| vgridnev | SergeyLukjanov, I tested that on my own laptop and that worked fine | 14:06 |
| egafford | SergeyLukjanov: I developed the interface map UI changes against contrib; it worked fine then. | 14:06 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've ran it a lot and havent seen that issue yet | 14:06 |
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| tmckay | but, in one place apparently we need to test for ["None", None, ""] | 14:06 |
| elmiko | this issue, #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1483397 has come up on ask.openstack.org and we've had someone asking about it in channel | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1483397 in Sahara "Resolver404 error during Node Group Template Creation (via Horizon)" [Undecided,New] | 14:06 |
| tmckay | not verified yet, but we should do that and file a bug. crobertsrh, did you get a chance to see it? | 14:06 |
| crobertsrh | No, I've never come across it. | 14:07 |
| tmckay | doh | 14:07 |
| tmckay | I will make an F21 box and let you experience it | 14:07 |
| tmckay | ;-) | 14:07 |
| crobertsrh | Ok, I haven't tried f21 | 14:07 |
| NikitaKonovalov | what does sahara 0.8.0 mean? what release is that? | 14:07 |
| elmiko | when does that happen tmckay, i have been using sahara/horizon on f21 | 14:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | NikitaKonovalov, probably it's client release? | 14:08 |
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| tmckay | On submission of a Java job type, the code that looks at the input_id and output_id fields ends up passing "None" to the client instead of None | 14:08 |
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| tmckay | (or just not including in the dict) | 14:08 |
| tmckay | so, Sahara sees the string "None" and it breaks the schema | 14:09 |
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| elmiko | NikitaKonovalov: the person who reported that was installing everything through the ubuntu packager, agreed with SergeyLukjanov though, probably client | 14:09 |
| elmiko | tmckay: i can try and give it a run later today | 14:09 |
| tmckay | I hacked my horizon in devstack to screen for "None", but I haven't validated on a clean box | 14:09 |
| huichun | tmckay: hi Trevor recurrence edp spec has been updated with your review comments last time | 14:09 |
| tmckay | huichun, thank you. I am behind on reviews (I think I said that before :) ) and look to do a bunch today and tomorrow | 14:10 |
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| huichun | ^^ | 14:10 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | elmiko: I've never seen Sahara installed from Ubuntu packages, but it looks more like a Horizon templates failure rathe than Sahara issue | 14:11 |
| elmiko | NikitaKonovalov: ack, maybe it's something to do with the ubuntu installation of horizon (which is what crobertsrh speculated) | 14:12 |
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| crobertsrh | for sure, something either in Horizon or in the ubuntu package | 14:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / updates | 14:13 |
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| elmiko | not sure if we could do much, someone would need to dig into the ubuntu packaging... | 14:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | switching to the next topic :) | 14:14 |
| tmckay | my update -- I will push a spec today for the manila data source change that I wrote :) Had to make sure it worked first | 14:14 |
| vgridnev | nothing new, vanilla plugin is got merged | 14:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, re dashboard issue - we need more details and keep track on it | 14:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hopefully it's some local issue | 14:14 |
| elmiko | i've got the first keystone/session patch up, also the apiv2 spec is under way, and i'm about to start pushing the improved secret storage patches | 14:14 |
| AndreyPavlov | working on shared/protected support, some researches about keystone auth plugins and tokens | 14:15 |
| tmckay | yay! | 14:15 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I've been adding some rally improvements to support the gateway node. | 14:15 |
| egafford | My Manila stuff is in; working on a final mergeable rev of the interface map UI; also working on TripleO integration again now that that project is in a better place. :) | 14:15 |
| elmiko | AndreyPavlov: did you see #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207208/ | 14:16 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I'm also planing to work on enabling rally job in the gate | 14:16 |
| egafford | (Tried a few moths ago; going back now is a different world.) | 14:16 |
| tmckay | oh, we made hdp test non-voting in the gate, looked like it was a timeout to the ambari repos? Has anyone looked at that more? | 14:16 |
| * SergeyLukjanov I'm working on a spec for sahara-tests separation, hope to complete this week - I really think it'll be great to extract it before the Liberty RC1 | 14:16 | |
| AndreyPavlov | elmiko: just a little, we have some topics to talk about) | 14:16 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: \o/ | 14:16 |
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| kchen | I am working on enabling Yarn resourcemanager HA in CDH plugin. | 14:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky :) yeah, I wanna to have the separated testing tool too, already have some code prepared ;) | 14:17 |
| tmckay | I think it was hdp 2.0.6 | 14:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | kchen cool! | 14:17 |
| weiting | I am working on NetApp Hadoop NFS driver integration | 14:17 |
| vgridnev | tmckay, is it possible to build hdp image locally? if yes, it can ci issue | 14:18 |
| tmckay | vgridnev, yes, elmiko worked on that a while back. We had a version where ambari instead from local on the image | 14:18 |
| tmckay | but I don't think it is up to date currently | 14:18 |
| elmiko | tmckay: +1, i think it has regressed | 14:19 |
| tosky | NikitaKonovalov: what is your scope for Rally usage in Sahara? I'd like to understand if there are overlaps with scenario tests and tempest API tests | 14:19 |
| tmckay | it might be a good idea to keep that up to date for hdp images, so that we avoid network damage to the gate tests | 14:19 |
| tmckay | it slows everything down (a lot) | 14:19 |
| vgridnev | tmckay, anyway I think we should concentrate on new hdp plugin which is on review already | 14:19 |
| elmiko | +1 | 14:19 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tosky: Rally is more of a performance tool rather than a test framework | 14:20 |
| tmckay | vgridnev, agreed, but even that should install locally if possible | 14:20 |
| tmckay | we want to avoid going to outside repos | 14:20 |
| tosky | NikitaKonovalov: good to hear that, and I agree; I heard others saying otherwise | 14:20 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tosky: Rally is only depending on sahara-client and what it does is creates a series of clusters in parrallel or in sequence while measureing the performance of create and delete operations | 14:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, in rally we're implementing perf tests for API and for workloads as well - to spam templates create and list for example and to create tons of hadoop clusters throuh sahara api and then run dfsio on them using EDP | 14:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, honestly it 100% overlaps with tempest api tests, but tempest doesn't allow to make perf. testing | 14:22 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tosky: the same for the jobs, It can run on job a lot of times and get some average and divation stats | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, scenario tests could be partially covered with rally too (as clusters api tests :) ) but scenario tests allows tons of customizations, so, it's a very different use case | 14:22 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov, NikitaKonovalov: that's what I thought, I think rally could be used to *run* existing tests and repeat them (even scenario tests maybe?) | 14:23 |
| tosky | I'm a bit skeptical about using it natively for writing tests, that's where I see the overlap; I see more gain in using it's reporting capabilities | 14:24 |
| tosky | that's my opinion | 14:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I think we should evaluate integration rally + scenario tests | 14:24 |
| NikitaKonovalov | tosky: rally is able to run templest tests, I could actually look to find if I can teach it to run our scenarios | 14:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | AFAIK rally supports running tempest | 14:24 |
| tosky | NikitaKonovalov: there was a WIP spec to allow rally to run integration tests, but the way I would do it is different | 14:25 |
| NikitaKonovalov | (those are kept in not_for_producetion module though) | 14:25 |
| kchen | Is there any spec on introducing Rally in Sahara? | 14:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/tempest/tempest.py it looks pretty simple :) | 14:25 |
| tosky | I would rather slowly use more parts from tempest-lib in scenario tests and use the new tempest spec for discovering additional tests | 14:25 |
| NikitaKonovalov | kchen: no, we dont need any modefications to Sahara | 14:26 |
| tosky | this one: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/qa-specs/specs/tempest/tempest-external-plugin-interface.html | 14:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, interesting | 14:26 |
| tosky | and access scenario tests through normal tempest interface, so it would be easy to run them from rally to | 14:26 |
| kchen | NikitaKonovalov: I am not familiar with Rally and want to see what benefit can be brought by it :) | 14:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I'm not sure how it'll work due to the core generation phase... | 14:26 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: core generation? | 14:27 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I mean code generation | 14:27 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: ah, right; well, it can be explored | 14:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, in the first phase scenario tests generates actual code from the yaml | 14:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, yup | 14:27 |
| tosky | I didn't investigate too much because some basic part were missing; my idea is simply to reuse existing parts as much as possible and integrate the pieces seamlessly | 14:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | tosky, I would say that it's probably a good integration point to be able to run scenario tests as a tempest tests and through the sahara-tests command | 14:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | both approaches have pros and cons | 14:30 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | any other news to share? | 14:30 |
| NikitaKonovalov | kchen: you can have a look on what is currently supported in rally right now https://github.com/openstack/rally/tree/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/sahara | 14:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Client release plans | 14:31 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-client | 14:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I've updated it with a label RELEASE 0.10.0 | 14:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | version already bumped in global requirements | 14:31 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 14:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we could use it from any project | 14:31 |
| NikitaKonovalov | kchen: and here are the examples of rally scenrios for Sahara https://github.com/openstack/rally/tree/master/samples/tasks/scenarios/sahara | 14:31 |
| kchen | NikitaKonovalov: thanks! | 14:31 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we'll need one more client release before the L3 to make sure all features support merged | 14:32 |
| NikitaKonovalov | kchen: ping me if you have any questions | 14:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any q. re client? | 14:32 |
| tosky | one more, do you mean 0.10.1 or 0.11? | 14:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Bug triage / fix days / doc days | 14:33 |
| kchen | NikitaKonovalov: sure | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug triage / fix days / doc days (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:33 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | tosky 0.11 due to the new features and updated requirements | 14:33 |
| tosky | oki | 14:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we need to have a bug triage day sooner and than bug fix day as wekk | 14:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | docs should be updated before RC1 release too | 14:34 |
| elmiko | sounds worthwhile ;) | 14:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, what's about doing bug triage, bug fix and doc update days next three weeks? | 14:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | one by week | 14:35 |
| tmckay | sounds great | 14:35 |
| elmiko | +1 | 14:35 |
| vgridnev | SergeyLukjanov, +1 | 14:35 |
| egafford | SergeyLukjanov: +1 | 14:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | probably on Mondays to have a week after to complete patches before next *** day? | 14:35 |
| elmiko | agreed | 14:36 |
| tmckay | agreed | 14:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | crobertsrh, egafford, sreshetnyak, NikitaKonovalov, vgridnev ^^ | 14:37 |
| egafford | SergeyLukjanov: Yup, sounds good. | 14:37 |
| vgridnev | I am ok with that | 14:37 |
| tosky | makes sense | 14:37 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I'm fine with that | 14:37 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, that seems like a good idea | 14:37 |
| tellesnobrega | +1 | 14:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | does any body wants to volunteer to coordinate this days? (one volunteer per each of events needed IMO) | 14:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 14:38 |
| elmiko | i'll volunteer for doc fix | 14:39 |
| egafford | I can do bug fix if we like. | 14:40 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anyone for bug triaging? :) | 14:40 |
| vgridnev | If someone will explain what i should do, I can be one :) | 14:41 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #agreed Bug triage day on Aug 17 (TBD volunteer), Bug fix day on Aug 24 (egafford) and Doc update day on Aug 31 (elmiko) | 14:41 |
| huichun | i can do bug fix if we like | 14:41 |
| kchen | huichun: Sergey means bug fix coordinator | 14:42 |
| kchen | huichun: are you sure you have time to do this? | 14:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | to coordinate some of this day we need to have an etherpad with a list of tasks (probably created in collaboration at the day start) and ensure everyone using this doc to avoid duplicated efforts | 14:42 |
| huichun | sorry misunderstand | 14:43 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sounds like that's pretty all for this topic | 14:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 14:43 |
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| elmiko | i have a couple issues | 14:44 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/207208 | 14:44 |
| elmiko | this review seems to not be triggering ci | 14:44 |
| elmiko | ಠ_ಠ | 14:44 |
| elmiko | also, #link https://review.openstack.org/212172 | 14:44 |
| elmiko | api v2 spec is up, i'm looking for feedback before i start pushing patches | 14:45 |
| vgridnev | I heard that there are several issues on ci | 14:45 |
| elmiko | ok, good to know | 14:45 |
| elmiko | AndreyPavlov: did you want to talk about auth plugin/tokens? | 14:45 |
| AndreyPavlov | yep | 14:45 |
| AndreyPavlov | Currently we have an issue with token expiration during long operations (like creation or scale of big clusters) or in case of small lifetime of auth tokens. | 14:45 |
| aignatov | is @lu huichun here? :) | 14:46 |
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| AndreyPavlov | It leads to keystone Unauthorized errors when sahara tries to communicate with openstack clients. | 14:46 |
| aignatov | not sure if he has different nick in IRC :) | 14:46 |
| tmckay | aignatov, yes, huichun is here | 14:46 |
| AndreyPavlov | Combination of auth plugin + session can deal with that, but only if auth plugin object has enough information to get new token. | 14:46 |
| elmiko | AndreyPavlov: i think that would have to be a password token? | 14:46 |
| vgridnev | aignatov, seems that his nick is huichun | 14:46 |
| huichun | elmiko: Michael I notice that you have filed a bug to change put with patch? | 14:47 |
| AndreyPavlov | Auth plugin that we take from middleware has not. It has a token and it cant refresh it. Password is getting new tokens fine | 14:47 |
| huichun | i am here with mobile client | 14:47 |
| elmiko | huichun: yes | 14:47 |
| aignatov | vgridnev: tmckay thanks | 14:47 |
| huichun | aignatov: hello | 14:47 |
| aignatov | I am regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192097/ | 14:47 |
| elmiko | AndreyPavlov: the only problem is that we won't be able to get a password token from the user (i don't think) | 14:47 |
| elmiko | AndreyPavlov: this is why we have been using trusts for some of the longer running operations | 14:48 |
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| AndreyPavlov | yep | 14:48 |
| aignatov | idea looks cool but I’m not sure if it works correctly after implemenation as descripbed in spec | 14:48 |
| huichun | aignatov: so what is your main concern? | 14:49 |
| aignatov | I think that reccuring jobs in most scenarios will not work if Sahara will not delete output datasource before running second and further jobs | 14:49 |
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| aignatov | if job has OUTPUT of course :) | 14:50 |
| huichun | yes I see your comment, so should we make a patch for edp job that before it runs , we should check the whether the output is exist? | 14:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | aignatov, we have DataSource placeholders, I think they are solving this issue | 14:50 |
| elmiko | AndreyPavlov: i think we should probably continue to follow the trust model for situations where we need tokens for extended periods of time. | 14:50 |
| tmckay | huichun, aignatov, or use the %JOB_EXEC_ID% stuff that alazarev wrote | 14:51 |
| tmckay | we have had an idea for a long time to add <prepare> tags to oozie jobs | 14:51 |
| AndreyPavlov | elmiko: yes, that was my point | 14:51 |
| elmiko | AndreyPavlov: ok, cool. i agree =) | 14:51 |
| tmckay | that I think would be the way to do it. For spark, I don't think it cares if the output is already there | 14:52 |
| aignatov | @SergeyLukjanov @tmckay Cool, so this needs to be described in spec | 14:52 |
| tmckay | I mean, yes, I think there are 2 ways: placeholders (exist now), prepare tags (would have to be added to allow delete) | 14:52 |
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| huichun | tmckay: prepare tags to do delete action | 14:53 |
| tmckay | yes | 14:53 |
| aignatov | tmckay: ok, I know only second way :) didn’t play with placeholders | 14:53 |
| huichun | JOB_EXEC_ID is for? | 14:54 |
| tmckay | huichun, better to let oozie do it as part of the workflow if possible I think, than to have Sahara issue ssh comands for delete | 14:54 |
| huichun | agree | 14:54 |
| aignatov | it looks like a new bp to implement :) | 14:54 |
| tmckay | huichun, data source urls can have symbol substitution for exactly this problem, so swift://container/my_path_%JOB_EXEC_ID% | 14:55 |
| huichun | tmckay: so should I raise a separate spec for that prepare tag? | 14:55 |
| tmckay | huichun, so Sahara will replace the job_exec_id with a uuid when it submits the job | 14:55 |
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| tmckay | huichun, of course, if this is being launched from an Oozie coordinator job that won't work .... | 14:55 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | 4 mins left | 14:56 |
| tmckay | because Oozie will be doing the launch, not Sahara | 14:56 |
| huichun | I remember there is a data source patch to resolve this issue, right? | 14:56 |
| tmckay | huichun, yes, I think it merged | 14:56 |
| * tmckay looks | 14:56 | |
| huichun | tmckay: so should I raise a separate spec for adding prepare tag? | 14:57 |
| huichun | before the recurrence edp job spec? | 14:57 |
| huichun | aignatov: is that so? | 14:57 |
| SergeyLukjanov | note: I've just proposed egafford to sahara core reviewer team - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/071985.html existing core team members, please vote on it | 14:57 |
| tmckay | huichun, hmm, yes, I think adding prepare tags should be a separate spec | 14:58 |
| egafford | \o/ | 14:58 |
| tmckay | yay egafford! | 14:58 |
| elmiko | nice =) | 14:58 |
| aignatov | huichun: I think implementing with placeholders would be enough | 14:58 |
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| aignatov | like it is existing functional already | 14:58 |
| tmckay | aignatov, huichun, we can discuss on the spec :) | 14:58 |
| huichun | congs Ethan | 14:58 |
| huichun | ok | 14:58 |
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| aignatov | yes, new spec for tags would be great :) | 14:58 |
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| aignatov | congrats Ethan :) | 14:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thanks folks, have a good rest of day! | 14:59 |
| tmckay | bye | 14:59 |
| egafford | Very honored by the nomination; it's a fabulous team. | 14:59 |
| kchen | thanks | 14:59 |
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| kchen | bye | 14:59 |
| egafford | Bye! | 14:59 |
| elmiko | thanks SergeyLukjanov | 14:59 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| aignatov | bye | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 13 14:59:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-13-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-13-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-08-13-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| elmiko | grats egg | 14:59 |
| esikachev | bye | 14:59 |
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| elmiko | egafford: even ;) | 14:59 |
| carl_baldwin | hi | 14:59 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 13 15:00:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
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| regXboi | moo | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:00 |
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| vikram_ | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | Liberty continues to march on. Feature freeze will come at the end of the month. | 15:01 |
| obondarev | hi | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Just three weeks away. | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:01 |
| john-davidge | hi | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: ping | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | pong | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | today I want to highlight two bugs | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1404743 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ryan Moats (rmoats) | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | This one was discussed this week during the weekly Neutron IRC meeting | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | it became critical | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | any feedback on this regXboi, since it is assigned to you? | 15:04 |
| regXboi | I have one more update for the first failure signature | 15:04 |
| regXboi | the tempest case *IS* in fact using nova for the floating-ip setup | 15:04 |
| regXboi | and not handling the 202 response back correctly | 15:04 |
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| regXboi | I still need to look at the second case some more | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Are the 1400 hits from 1400 difference failed runs? | 15:05 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: no - when the failures happen, they happen in groups | 15:05 |
| regXboi | so a single run may trigger 20+ hits | 15:05 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: the problem is that the test code in one case is poorly written and creates a race condition | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | regXboi: what's the name of the test scriupt? | 15:06 |
| regXboi | I still am triaging the second case and then need to re-visit to see if there are more | 15:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Is there any way to write the logstash to isolate the various failure modes? | 15:07 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I haven't come up with a good query yet | 15:07 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: I'll update the bug with that information | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: ok, thought I’d ask. | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: ok, i'll look for your update | 15:07 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I've been trying to come up with better queries - that's a bit of a blunderbuss | 15:07 |
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| regXboi | mlavalle: TestVolumeBootPattern:test_volume_boot_pattern | 15:08 |
| regXboi | is the nova one | 15:08 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: understood | 15:08 |
| regXboi | the other signature looks to be either a stale or lost port id, which frankly, scares me | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: if i rememebr correctly, that one has been problematic for aloooooong time | 15:09 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: I suspect so - it associates the FIP via nova client, which gives back a 202 | 15:09 |
| regXboi | and then never checks the FIP status to be sure it's active | 15:09 |
| regXboi | that's a race condition waiting to happen | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | of course | 15:09 |
| regXboi | anyway, that's all I have on this for now | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Thanks for the updates. | 15:10 |
| regXboi | I'll keep the bug updated as I dig more out | 15:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Let us know if you need a hand. | 15:10 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: ack | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | the second bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461172 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin) | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | this one was assigned to us by mestery during the weekly neutronmeeting | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | I see it assigned to carl_baldwin. I don't know if you've had time to take a look | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | I have not looked at it. | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | do you need help? | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | triaging? | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes, I could use a hand. | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | ok, i'll assign it to me | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | i'll dig and report back soon | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | regXboi: any other bug you want to highlight? | 15:13 |
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| regXboi | mlavalle: I have a few from the dvr backlog | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: you have the floor. | 15:14 |
| regXboi | the first is http://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1405910 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1405910 in neutron "distributed router can not add routes" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:14 |
| regXboi | this has a patch set that could use review so we can get it merged | 15:15 |
| regXboi | the second is http://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1369721 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1369721 in neutron "manually moving dvr-snat router fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:15 |
| regXboi | it also has a patch set that needs reviewing | 15:15 |
| haleyb | i think that first one is ready to go | 15:15 |
| regXboi | the third is http://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/14365473 | 15:16 |
| openstack | regXboi: Error: malone bug 14365473 not found | 15:16 |
| regXboi | let's try that again | 15:16 |
| regXboi | the third is http://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365473 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte) | 15:16 |
| regXboi | I'm a little nervous on this one as I don't see any activity on the bug in the last week | 15:16 |
| regXboi | lastly, there is http://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1407889 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1407889 in Percona Server 5.6 "Default config contains deprecated directives" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Can you clarify which patch set needs review for 1369721? A quick glance through is confusing. | 15:17 |
| regXboi | that's wrong | 15:17 |
| regXboi | carl_badlwind | 15:17 |
| regXboi | ack - my fingers aren't working | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: regarding 1365473, we could pin Adolfo. I can do it if you want | 15:17 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: the patchset for 1369721 is the last one in the bug | 15:17 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: please | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | ok, will do | 15:18 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: the patch set for 1369721 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122024/ | 15:18 |
| regXboi | the other patch set has been -2'd and can be abandoned as not being necessary | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: thanks. Which is the one that has been -2d? | 15:19 |
| regXboi | looking | 15:19 |
| obondarev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123815/ | 15:20 |
| obondarev | carl_baldwin: ^^ | 15:20 |
| regXboi | thanks, obondarev | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | obondarev: thanks. | 15:21 |
| obondarev | as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211939 should cover agent side changes needed to handle rescheduling | 15:21 |
| regXboi | obondarev is correct - so we can abandon 123815 in favor of 122024 and 211939 | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | I can plan to begin reviewing these today. | 15:21 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: thanks | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | obondarev: Do you want to abandon that one? | 15:22 |
| obondarev | carl_baldwin: thanks | 15:22 |
| obondarev | carl_baldwin: I can | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | #action mlavalle to ping assignee of bug 1365473 | 15:22 |
| openstack | bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365473 - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte) | 15:22 |
| regXboi | obondarev: can you provide an update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1470889 ? | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470889 in neutron "DVR: should not remove routers form down l3 agents on compute nodes" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev) | 15:23 |
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| obondarev | regXboi: sure | 15:23 |
| obondarev | there is a patch on it | 15:23 |
| obondarev | let me find a link | 15:23 |
| regXboi | obondarev: patch #? the bug doesn't show that | 15:23 |
| obondarev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198009/ | 15:23 |
| obondarev | not sure why launchpad stopped showing patches in bugs lately | 15:24 |
| regXboi | yeah, I don't know either - so I'm updating by hand as needed | 15:24 |
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| obondarev | regXboi: thanks | 15:24 |
| regXboi | all: that patchset ^^^^ also needs review | 15:24 |
| regXboi | and that's the high list from the backlog | 15:25 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: I'm done - returning the floor | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Thanks for your work here. I feel the momentum building on this due to some new very capable hands. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other bugs? | 15:26 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: that's it from me | 15:26 |
| regXboi | carl_badlwin: thanks | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Routed network segments | 15:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | Nothing new here. I still have the action item to write a new proposal. | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I will devote tomorrow to that. | 15:27 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: if you need help - ping me | 15:28 |
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| regXboi | I've got folks internally beating me up over this topic :) | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | Also, looking forward to the discussion next week that we discussed last week. | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | #topic BGP dynamic routing | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: vikram_ : hi | 15:29 |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:29 |
| vikram_ | hi | 15:29 |
| tidwellr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621 | 15:30 |
| tidwellr | start of the review chain | 15:31 |
| tidwellr | not ready to throw in the towel yet, feature freeze is still a couple weeks away, but getting concerned | 15:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: understood. I will review it today and encourage others to jump in. | 15:32 |
| tidwellr | I'm getting bogged down in testing, every time I try testing a corner case I find something horribly wrong | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Well, that’s progress. | 15:32 |
| carl_baldwin | :) | 15:32 |
| vikram_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bgp-dynamic-routing | 15:33 |
| vikram_ | Here we are maintaing our open items | 15:33 |
| tidwellr | again, the struggle is in identifying what routes should be advertised, DVR makes it a nightmare | 15:33 |
| carl_baldwin | vikram_: That looks like overview. | 15:34 |
| vikram_ | request initial glance for "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207607/", "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207625/", and "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207635/" | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Can we separate the dvr case from the simpler case? | 15:34 |
| tidwellr | I have already punted on DVR host routes | 15:35 |
| tidwellr | unfortunately, DVR is so intertwined that it's hard to ignore | 15:35 |
| tidwellr | I've made some good progress, but it has delayed RPC's, automated tests, etc. | 15:36 |
| tidwellr | the DB queries are over the hump, but we're now behind a little bit in terms of bringing the agent and server-sides together | 15:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Can we do anything to help you out? | 15:38 |
| tidwellr | it's a big ask, but reviews on what we have now would be helpful so we can address things before we start pushing final code | 15:40 |
| vikram_ | tidwellr:+1 | 15:40 |
| tidwellr | we're going down to the wire on this | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: ack. Let’s get reviewers on it. I can start devoting more effort to reviews. | 15:40 |
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| tidwellr | it's a big ask I know, this stuff is all still WIP | 15:41 |
| vikram_ | tidwellr:+1-baldwin: thanks | 15:41 |
| vikram_ | carl_baldwin: thanks | 15:41 |
| regXboi | tidwellr: do you expect needing help on getting voting jobs to pass? | 15:41 |
| tidwellr | I have some tempest tests, unforatunately I've got a chicken and egg problem where we need to enable the svc plugin in the gate for them to be useful and even pass | 15:42 |
| tidwellr | I pulled them API tests out into their own review, but abandoned that | 15:43 |
| regXboi | tidwellr: that isn't quite what I was asking - I was more asking about keeping the pipeline flowing on the current WiP patches | 15:43 |
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| tidwellr | regXboi: I understand now, I haven't been blocked by it yet | 15:45 |
| regXboi | tidwellr: I'm just noticing that the check pipeline isn't entirely happy with the patch set chain... | 15:45 |
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| regXboi | that's all | 15:45 |
| tidwellr | ok, the dsvm-functional tests are failing because of that chicken-egg problem I mentioned | 15:46 |
| regXboi | yep | 15:46 |
| tidwellr | sorry, dsvm-api | 15:46 |
| regXboi | we can take it off line | 15:46 |
| tidwellr | dsvm-functional is failing and I don't know why | 15:46 |
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| tidwellr | offline | 15:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m going to jump ahead a bit in the agenda. I trust tidwellr, regXboi, vikram_, and others can connect out of band. | 15:46 |
| tidwellr | carry on | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, guys. Let’s get some attention on this since it is new functionality and must make Liberty-3 to be considered. | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic DNS | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: hi | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200952 got a -1 from armax | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | there is some debate as to why dns_name in ports was not implemented as an extension | 15:47 |
| armax | mlavalle: well, calling me out is unfair, you got 4 -1! | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | the help i need here is for you weigh in herehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/200952/12/neutron/api/v2/attributes.py | 15:48 |
| armax | :) | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | armax: sorry for that, I am just trying to be quick | 15:48 |
| armax | mlavalle: no worries…IMO this should be easy to fix | 15:48 |
| armax | mlavalle: I gave you a pointer on how to do it | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: and then I will continue the conversation with armax and the others | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: You just matter more than everyone else. ;) | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: that's right, armax is paramount | 15:49 |
| * armax blushes | 15:49 | |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: so if you can give us your opinion in gerrit, i'll take it from there | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I also pushed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ for the external dns | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Are you asking specifically about doing an extension? | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: yes | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | I'd like some guidance as to how to move forward. whichever way you think is best to move forward | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | We should probably do some sort of an extension. I should have thought of that before given I’ve run in to this before. | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: ok, if you are time constrained, that's enough. i'll take it from here | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | as for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | I mostly pushed it because I want early feedback from johnbelamaric on the driver interface | 15:53 |
| johnbelamaric | mlavalle: ok, I will look at it today | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | I will popuplate that interface today and then ask for his feedback, maybe tomorrow morning | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: What do you think our realistic changes are for getting this part done in Liberty? | 15:53 |
| johnbelamaric | mlavalle: I am on PTO next week so have to do it soon :) | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | … the second part I mean. | 15:53 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I think we have a shot. let's revisit this next week | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | I am going to be working full throttle on this over the next few days | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | I've asked my boss to remove any barriers between now and the end of the month | 15:54 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Okay. Let’s be sure to get the first part in. | 15:55 |
| mlavalle | of course :-) | 15:55 |
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| mlavalle | so that's all I have | 15:55 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Address Scopes | 15:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | I have finished the functionality in the L3 agent that I wanted to get to. But, I have to admit, I’m in over my head to get this tested in the next three weeks with my travel schedule and other things. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | I can have my work posted by the end of this week. Is anyone interested in lending a hand? | 15:57 |
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| carl_baldwin | vikram_ and numan are probably the most familiar with it at this point. | 15:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | Please let me know if you can lend a hand. | 15:59 |
| numan | carl_baldwin, is there a review link ? | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:59 |
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| regXboi | I've got one thing | 15:59 |
| regXboi | #link http://goo.gl/Y7LIYX graphite link for multinode full and DVR jobs | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | numan: Look at the address-scopes gerrit topic. I will have everything posted as WIP before the end of tomorrow. | 15:59 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: nice. | 16:00 |
| regXboi | there is a pending infra WiP patch for replacing -full with mutlinode-full already | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ve got to end the meeting. | 16:00 |
| regXboi | I'll be pushing another one for DVR next week | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 16:00 |
| regXboi | that's it | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: ack Let’s move to the neutron room if needed. | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 13 16:00:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| numan | carl_baldwin, thanks | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-13-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-13-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-08-13-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| regXboi | oom | 16:00 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/goto kapi | 16:01 |
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| elmiko | #startmeeting api wg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 13 16:01:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 16:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 16:02 |
| jaypipes | afternoon all. | 16:02 |
| elmiko | hi | 16:02 |
| etoews | o/ | 16:02 |
| miguelgrinberg | hello | 16:02 |
| edleafe | o/ | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #char jaypipes etoews | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #chair jaypipes etoews | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: elmiko etoews jaypipes | 16:02 |
| elmiko | there we go | 16:02 |
| stevelle | o/ | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #topic agenda | 16:02 |
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| cdent | so many chairs but nowhere to sit | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 16:03 |
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| sigmavirus24 | elmiko: char them? | 16:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | why would we limit them to 255 bytes? | 16:03 |
| elmiko | sigmavirus24: haha | 16:03 |
| elmiko | i know, that would be so rude ;) | 16:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | or are we putting them on the barbi? | 16:03 |
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| elmiko | there were no action items last week, so we'll move on to new topics | 16:04 |
| elmiko | #topic tokyo summit working group sessions | 16:04 |
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| elmiko | etoews, i think this was yours? | 16:04 |
| etoews | that's me | 16:04 |
| etoews | so i got an email from the summit organizers about some space/time for WGs. | 16:05 |
| etoews | however, i almost certainly won't be at the tokyo summit. | 16:05 |
| etoews | i just need someone i can forward that email to get some time/space for the wg | 16:05 |
| elmiko | i hadn't responded to the email yet, but i *think* i will be there | 16:05 |
| etoews | jaypipes: will you be there? | 16:06 |
| * cdent looks at jaypipes | 16:06 | |
| cdent | jinkx | 16:06 |
| jaypipes | etoews: yes. | 16:06 |
| jaypipes | etoews: feel free to forward. | 16:06 |
| etoews | i already forwarded it on the 11th. subject: Working Group Space Sign-Up for Tokyo - OpenStack Summit | 16:07 |
| elmiko | anything else on this topic? | 16:08 |
| etoews | i'd suggest cc'ing elmiko to keep him in the loop | 16:08 |
| etoews | thx! | 16:08 |
| * jaypipes checks spam folder... | 16:08 | |
| cdent | I assumed this topic was "what should the session be" | 16:08 |
| elmiko | yea, i'm fairly sure i'll be in tokyo, just haven't booked yet | 16:08 |
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| cdent | not "how should we make sure they happen" (which is important too) | 16:08 |
| elmiko | we can talk about that too =) | 16:08 |
| etoews | cdent: it's entirely up to us what to do with it | 16:08 |
| etoews | last summit i grabbed 3 timeslots | 16:09 |
| elmiko | i was imagining we would at least have a "state of wg" type session | 16:09 |
| etoews | the first for a "state of the wg" | 16:09 |
| elmiko | jinx! | 16:09 |
| cdent | did they already give us a known set of slots, or asking for how many we want? | 16:09 |
| etoews | and the other 2 for actual working sessions | 16:09 |
| etoews | they're asking | 16:09 |
| jaypipes | etoews: was in spam folder. will respond. | 16:09 |
| elmiko | jaypipes: a likely story... ;) | 16:10 |
| elmiko | i'm guessing we'll put up an etherpad for ideas on the working sessions? | 16:10 |
| cdent | 3 seems good | 16:10 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: I'm not entirely sure we need 3. making it to 2 would be a stretch for me, frankly. not just API WG sessions, but any session not nova is hard for me to attend. | 16:11 |
| jaypipes | but if there are proposals for specific topics we think will take >2 sessions, OK. | 16:12 |
| cdent | I was thinking 1. state of the wg 2. talking about the future 3. shooting the breeze for giggles | 16:12 |
| elmiko | i tend to agree with jaypipes, except replace nova with sahara | 16:12 |
| cdent | 3 being very optional | 16:12 |
| elmiko | ok, i can get down with that idea | 16:13 |
| jaypipes | cdent: heh, sure. | 16:13 |
| cdent | from what I can recall: you take slots that you _might_ need and then start giving them back when they start struggling to schedule everything | 16:13 |
| elmiko | lol, fair | 16:13 |
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| jaypipes | cdent: would you like to organize the tokyo API WG stuff? | 16:14 |
| jaypipes | cdent: I personally have trouble finding the bandwidth. | 16:14 |
| jaypipes | not sure about elmiko | 16:14 |
| elmiko | i don't mind helping, but if cdent wants to take lead i'm cool with that | 16:15 |
| cdent | jaypipes: I can take it if elmiko doesn't want it, but I've had a lot of bandwidth suffering this cycle (probably not near as much as you though) | 16:15 |
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| elmiko | cdent: you wanna take lead with me as backup? | 16:15 |
| cdent | you have much more state on the state of the group. How about you worry about content, and I'll worry about orchestration? | 16:15 |
| elmiko | hehe ok | 16:16 |
| elmiko | #action cdent to orchestrate tokyo sessions | 16:16 |
| cdent | somebody bounce me the email please and I'll see what can happen | 16:16 |
| elmiko | #action elmiko to work on content for tokyo sessions | 16:16 |
| salv-orlando | elmiko, jaypipes: you can count on my help, if I can assist in nay way | 16:16 |
| elmiko | salv-orlando: awesome, thank you! | 16:16 |
| jaypipes | salv-orlando: cheers, much appreciated. | 16:16 |
| elmiko | #info 3 sessions proposed for tokyo, state of the wg, future plans, happy hour | 16:17 |
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| cdent | s/happy hour/how we gonna solve this bandwidth problem everyone seems to have all the time | 16:17 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:17 |
| elmiko | ok, lets work on the sessions on an etherpad to be setup | 16:17 |
| cdent | +1 | 16:18 |
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| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-api-wg-session-plans | 16:18 |
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| elmiko | moving on | 16:18 |
| elmiko | #topic guidelines | 16:19 |
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| elmiko | hmm, looks like i messed up the agenda a little | 16:19 |
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| elmiko | we currently have 3 frozen | 16:19 |
| elmiko | and thanks to ryansb for updating the headers guideline | 16:20 |
| elmiko | there is also a question about creating a PATCH guideline to address the rfc6902 vs. partial update methodology questions | 16:20 |
| elmiko | looking for volunteers on that one, but if not i think i can address it | 16:21 |
| elmiko | also, i think we need to get a few more reviews in on the open guideliness to prepare more for the next freeze cycle | 16:21 |
| elmiko | the dashboard that etoews put together is working quite nicely (aside from freeze stuff being in question), i'd recommend folks to take a look at the gerrit-dashboard-generator if they haven't seen it | 16:22 |
| etoews | #link http://ghostcloud.net/openstack_gerrit_dashboards/dashboard_api-wg.html | 16:22 |
| elmiko | #link http://ghostcloud.net/openstack_gerrit_dashboards/dashboard_api-wg.html | 16:22 |
| elmiko | hehe | 16:22 |
| etoews | we're just full of jinxes this meeting | 16:22 |
| jaypipes | elmiko: just finishing up reviews on the remaining ones I haven't reviewed. | 16:22 |
| elmiko | are there any guidelines folks would like to bring up? | 16:23 |
| elmiko | etoews: yea, totally! | 16:23 |
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| elmiko | jaypipes: ack, thanks | 16:23 |
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| elmiko | ok, well the main one i'm curious about is sdague's guideline about 501s | 16:24 |
| elmiko | which i'm having trouble finding right at the moment | 16:24 |
| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183456/ | 16:24 |
| elmiko | this had gone up for freeze and was sent back, but we are having trouble coming to a consensus on it | 16:25 |
| cdent | I think we need to bite the bullet and declare that the wg has authority and stop working towards consensus | 16:25 |
| elmiko | yea, that's kinda the question | 16:25 |
| elmiko | when to we call off debate and merge something? | 16:25 |
| elmiko | *do | 16:25 |
| jaypipes | elmiko: good question. | 16:26 |
| edleafe | cdent: authority to issue guidelines, sure | 16:26 |
| elmiko | i'm not really sure the best answer on this one, etoews did you have any thoughts about this circumstance? | 16:26 |
| etoews | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/process.html | 16:27 |
| etoews | In the guideline review, consensus means the changeset must be available for review in its near final form for at least 2 working days. Minor typo/formatting change updates do not reset the counter. There must be at least four +1 votes and no -1’s unless the concern by the -1 vote has been discussed in an API WG meeting. Once the matter has been discussed | 16:27 |
| etoews | there should be no more than 20% (of votes cast) -1 votes. | 16:27 |
| elmiko | ok, i guess we should move ahead with merging then | 16:27 |
| salv-orlando | also at the end of the day is a guideline, not a law. | 16:28 |
| elmiko | true | 16:28 |
| etoews | if it's been discussed then yes | 16:28 |
| elmiko | yea, this one has been jammed in the pipeline for quite awhile | 16:28 |
| etoews | -1s are showstoppers. we're going for consensus, not unanimity | 16:29 |
| etoews | -1s are *not* showstoppers | 16:29 |
| elmiko | so, aside from miguelgrinberg's comments about grammar, i guess we can fix and merge | 16:29 |
| elmiko | or should we merge and apply a fix patch? | 16:30 |
| salv-orlando | both work for me... for what concern me you can fix the grammar with a new patchset and then merge | 16:30 |
| salv-orlando | without bothering the committer | 16:31 |
| elmiko | ok, cool | 16:31 |
| elmiko | moving on | 16:31 |
| elmiko | #topic guideline pipeline | 16:31 |
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| cdent | I wanted to mention my pending guideline: https://review.openstack.org/181912 | 16:31 |
| cdent | just as a sort of question about some of the difficulties we are encountering | 16:32 |
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| elmiko | yea, i guess, given what we just said this could merge on the 18th | 16:32 |
| elmiko | assuming there isn't an influx of -1s | 16:32 |
| cdent | that one was written with a very specific purpose but much of the comments have been about clarifying basics of POST and PUT, which I had assumed in initial writing would be or are covered elsewhere | 16:33 |
| cdent | reviewing these kinds of guidelines, out of context, will always result in those kinds of queries | 16:33 |
| cdent | "you forgot to mention X", "no, I left that out on purpose" | 16:33 |
| cdent | etc | 16:33 |
| elmiko | imo, i think it's ok for us to have these specific style guidelines with that assumption | 16:33 |
| salv-orlando | sure. Indeed for instance I believe the comment on response code is out of scope | 16:33 |
| elmiko | we just need to make sure that we go back and fill in the prior art, as it were | 16:34 |
| cdent | makes sense | 16:34 |
| etoews | and the response codes are covered in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/http.html#xx-success-codes | 16:35 |
| elmiko | good point | 16:35 |
| salv-orlando | on the other hand, as I'm myself a pedant reviewer, I also understand the reviewers' point of view | 16:36 |
| cdent | Yeah, I was just wondering if there is something we can add to the process so that people are aware of the focus of the pieces when doing reviews | 16:36 |
| cdent | salv-orlando: :) | 16:36 |
| etoews | bknudson does have a point about responding with the URI. it's a bit ambiguous as is. | 16:36 |
| cdent | or rather: does it matter | 16:36 |
| elmiko | hmm, interesting idea cdent. maybe we just need to be more vocal on the review comments | 16:36 |
| salv-orlando | I believe that from the perspective of forming a "consensus" the core team might retain the faculty of excluding -1s for out of scope comments | 16:36 |
| etoews | cdent: the focus of the pieces should be apparent from the commit message | 16:37 |
| elmiko | salv-orlando: yea, i tend to agree with that line of reasoning | 16:37 |
| cdent | elmiko: Yeah, I think being more vocal in review comments is great and fine. | 16:37 |
| cdent | I'm not whining here: Oh noes I got comments and now I have to deal with them. Rather: are we cool with the ways things go? If so, cool. | 16:38 |
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| elmiko | i think so, we just need to be firm i suppose about the focus of the individual guidelines | 16:38 |
| elmiko | and make sure that when merging a guideline with -1s that we address the situation in the merge comment | 16:39 |
| etoews | elmiko: good point | 16:39 |
| elmiko | ok, so the guideline piplie and dashboard were etoews' topics from before, did have any comments on the dashboar etoews? | 16:39 |
| elmiko | *pipeline | 16:40 |
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| etoews | elmiko: let's talk about improvements to merging guidelines first. that will inform any changes to the dashboard. | 16:40 |
| elmiko | ack | 16:40 |
| elmiko | #topic merge guidelines | 16:41 |
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| elmiko | so, yea, -2 can be problematic in some cases | 16:41 |
| etoews | yep | 16:41 |
| elmiko | -A could work, but then removes the ability to make WIP stuff | 16:41 |
| elmiko | the -infra folks recommended that this may be more a social contract issue for the wg than a technical issue | 16:42 |
| elmiko | but, | 16:42 |
| elmiko | that makes the dashboard a little less tidy ;) | 16:42 |
| elmiko | so... ideas? | 16:42 |
| elmiko | i had thought about maybe using a special topic branch name to help guide this, but then it doesn't look like cores can just change the topic name at will. (without a new revision) | 16:44 |
| etoews | i think, in general, we won't have so many WIP guidelines. | 16:44 |
| jaypipes | elmiko: I think just having you or etoews add a comment like you do saying "Frozen on <date>" is fine. | 16:44 |
| salv-orlando | elmiko: if you only change topic for the patch, the votes are preserved, I think | 16:44 |
| jaypipes | elmiko: and that serves as a reminder for items on the weekly meetings, too. | 16:44 |
| etoews | jaypipes: the trick is using something that we can surface in the dashboard. | 16:45 |
| elmiko | right, what etoews said | 16:45 |
| elmiko | that's why i was thinking topic branch, we can filter on it | 16:45 |
| jaypipes | etoews: I see... yes, that's a good point. | 16:45 |
| cdent | what about 1 +2 means frozen? | 16:45 |
| elmiko | that's a decent idea | 16:45 |
| cdent | and the social part is that the +2 capable people ahve to collaborate | 16:45 |
| elmiko | right, we just use +1 until we are ready to freeze | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | cdent: gotcha. yeah, I that might work. | 16:46 |
| etoews | and the other cores just +1 to vote | 16:46 |
| elmiko | i kinda like that idea | 16:46 |
| cdent | it's simple but quite visible | 16:46 |
| jaypipes | +1 to that ;) | 16:46 |
| etoews | ++ | 16:46 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:47 |
| jaypipes | nice idea, cdent | 16:47 |
| edleafe | yes, good idea | 16:47 |
| etoews | i'll take the action item here | 16:47 |
| elmiko | cool, thanks | 16:47 |
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| elmiko | #action etoews to update process doc with +2 freeze comments | 16:47 |
| etoews | #action update process for 1 +2 freeze and update dashboard to reflect this | 16:47 |
| cdent | go me! | 16:48 |
| elmiko | oops | 16:48 |
| etoews | can never have enough jinxed action items | 16:48 |
| elmiko | ok, so that clears up that issue and the dashboard stuff, with about 10min, left for APIImpact | 16:48 |
| elmiko | n | 16:48 |
| elmiko | #topic APIImpact | 16:49 |
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| elmiko | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 16:49 |
| elmiko | anyone have a review they'd like to bring up? | 16:49 |
| elmiko | i'm working on the v2 API spec for sahara, i would love any comments/criticism/suggestions on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212172/ | 16:50 |
| etoews | this looks interesting as well #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182016/6/specs/liberty/api-v2-structured-data-format.rst,unified | 16:51 |
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| elmiko | yea, interesting | 16:53 |
| etoews | elmiko: in yours, is job a hadoop job? | 16:53 |
| elmiko | etoews: yea, hadoop, spark, storm, really any of the frameworks we support | 16:53 |
| etoews | ah yes | 16:54 |
| etoews | looks like designate is using vendor media types | 16:55 |
| cdent | etoews: are you pro or con? | 16:55 |
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| etoews | i lean towards pro but don't have enough direct experience with them to have a definitive opinion | 16:56 |
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| elmiko | i wonder, are they using the types to help inform the server app how to handle the requests? | 16:57 |
| cdent | in my experience they are the better way to do versioning than /v2 or the way microversions are being implemented | 16:58 |
| cdent | persistent uris with fungible representations | 16:59 |
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| elmiko | i like that idea too, but it seems to be "controversial" in some places | 16:59 |
| elmiko | also, <1min left | 16:59 |
| etoews | i like what i'm seeing here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203948/ | 16:59 |
| etoews | (from the commit message anyway) | 16:59 |
| elmiko | yea, +1 | 17:00 |
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| elmiko | ok, we're out of time, thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| * cdent waves | 17:00 | |
| etoews | thx! | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 13 17:00:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-13-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-13-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-08-13-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
| elmiko | and wb etoews =) | 17:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ivar-lazzaro igordcard_ yapeng: hi | 17:59 |
| mageshgv | hi | 18:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 13 18:00:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Aug_13th.2C_6th.2C_2015 | 18:01 |
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| yapeng | hi | 18:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets mostly focus on the release | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i think we are on track for tomorrow | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we will discuss the bugs and the high priority issues, but at a high level does anyone have any concerns with going forward with the release in the next couple of days? | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: Yi: hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, so seems like we are fairly comfortable | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:03 |
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| Yi | hi | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i would mostly like to discuss the bug fixes that I believe will good to have merged before the release is cut | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1479169 | 18:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1479169 in Group Based Policy "GBP default security group allows outbound access to the Internet" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk) | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the patch is here: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207250/ | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: could you quickly summarize the change (will help the reviewers) | 18:05 |
| ivar-lazzaro | sure | 18:07 |
| ivar-lazzaro | basically the issue is in how we do outgoing security today in GBP | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right | 18:07 |
| ivar-lazzaro | so far, we have been allowing all the outgoing traffic for any new classifier (eg. port 80 ALLOW 0.0.0.0/0 direction OUT) | 18:07 |
| ivar-lazzaro | the reason why we did this is that we could always filter incoming traffic | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: true | 18:08 |
| ivar-lazzaro | This assumption doesn't held true with External Policies | 18:08 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | where we have no control over the Internet, and therefore we can't filter traffic on the other side of the fence | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right | 18:09 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | So this change makes sure that we do a granular outgoing filtering depending on who is consuming/providing a given contract | 18:09 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | instead of 0.0.0.0/0 for outgoing, we will allow traffic only for providing/consuming EPG-Subnets | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: so how do you deal with external connectivity? | 18:10 |
| ivar-lazzaro | That's based on the routes | 18:10 |
| ivar-lazzaro | in the external_segment | 18:11 |
| ivar-lazzaro | further ahead, this could be done based on the subnet specified in the EP itself | 18:11 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: Does your patch always do the egress filtering, or only when the other side is external? | 18:11 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but we don't have that kind of support yet | 18:11 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: always | 18:11 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: the advantage is that we can block traffic before it reaches the destination, saving some bandwidth | 18:12 |
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| rkukura | makes sense, and its twice as secure ;) | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i am not clear about the “based on the routes” part | 18:13 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: each External Segment has a set of routes that it serves | 18:13 |
| ivar-lazzaro | the outgoing filter is calculated as the IPSet difference between the internal L3P pool and that set of routes | 18:13 |
| ivar-lazzaro | for example, if you have a L3P with 192.168.0.0/16 as a pool | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and an external segment that servers 0.0.0.0/0 (most common case) | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | the rule is filtered by IPSer(external) - IPSet(internal) | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | that is all the CIDRs that are contained in the external segment but not in the L3P | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (Otherwise we would lose the advantage of filtering outgoing EAST-WEST traffic as well | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay, but i believe we were already doing that before, right? | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | needless to say, this patch made me think that the FWaaS API seems way more suitable for this kind of N-S filtering :) | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: only for ingress | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: now it's done for egress as well | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: thanks for the explanation | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is an imp we fix we need to get in, otherwise we allow external connectivity even when there is no external policy providing it | 18:17 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I can review it today | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, thanks | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1481973 | 18:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1481973 in Group Based Policy "wrong IP allocation for multiple PTGs in same L2P" [Undecided,New] | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | fix is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209700/ | 18:18 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yeee, it's me again! :) | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think this is pretty straightforward | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i just had the comment to add another exisitng bug to the commit | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since i believe it fixes that issue as well | 18:19 |
| ivar-lazzaro | ok I'll give a look | 18:20 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I’ll review that one too. | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: rkukura: thanks | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/197973 | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1470815 | 18:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470815 in Group Based Policy "NCP Plugin does not handle Service chain Instance update and Spec update correctly" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv) | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we discussed this and the other patch briefly last week | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: this particular one is good to go? | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i think it might help to rebase and let the gate run on it one more time | 18:22 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, this is ready for review | 18:22 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: will do it now | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: thanks | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and the associated bug: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1446587 | 18:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446587 in Group Based Policy "Service chain related parameter updates are too disruptive" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv) | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198639/ | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: you will be updating the patch | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | per ivar-lazzaro’s comment? | 18:24 |
| mageshgv | right, This patch needs an update. was unable to find a way to add the first patch as a dependency | 18:24 |
| mageshgv | so waiting for the other one to be reviewed and merged | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: oh | 18:24 |
| ivar-lazzaro | mageshgv: I typically cherry pick them one on top of the other | 18:25 |
| ivar-lazzaro | mageshgv: and then push the whole thing | 18:25 |
| ivar-lazzaro | *review* | 18:25 |
| mageshgv | ivar-lazzaro: thanks, will give that a try | 18:25 |
| rkukura | mageshgv: Another way is to pull in the patch, make it a branch, and rebase your branch on that branch. | 18:26 |
| mageshgv | rkukura: okay | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: in the past i recall having used in that approach, thanks | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | seems like the quota one just merged #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208200/ | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: mageshgv: thanks for taking a look | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the other one i had on my list was this: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1460831 | 18:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1460831 in Group Based Policy "API for group update is not clear" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sumit Naiksatam (snaiksat) | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209409/ | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i still need to post a follow up patch set | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the review | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i thought the above will be go to get in now, that way we can deprecate the older option over the course of liberty | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, so that’s a list of currently posted patches that i thought have significant impact and can be handled in a day or two of reviews | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we will always have the option posting further bug fixes and backporting | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ivar-lazzaro rkukura: anything critical that we missed? | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | if not i would like to open it up, so that we can wrap up early today and focus on the identified patches and reviews | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else we need to discuss? | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | alright, thanks everyone, back to the reviews! ;-) | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Thanks! bye | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:34 |
| mageshgv | bye | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 13 18:34:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-08-13-18.00.html | 18:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-08-13-18.00.txt | 18:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-08-13-18.00.log.html | 18:34 |
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| mattgriffin | ha-guide meeting in 3 minutes | 19:57 |
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| mattgriffin | #startmeeting ha-guide | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha_guide' | 20:00 |
| mattgriffin | hi megm | 20:00 |
| beekhof | morning | 20:00 |
| mattgriffin | hey beekhof | 20:01 |
| mattgriffin | yes. good morning :) | 20:01 |
| mattgriffin | happy friday? | 20:01 |
| beekhof | well friday is accurate at any rate ;-) | 20:02 |
| mattgriffin | haha | 20:02 |
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| mattgriffin | anyone else here for the HA Guide meeting? | 20:02 |
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| mattgriffin | beekhof, ok. let's get started | 20:05 |
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| mattgriffin | i have a few updates | 20:05 |
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| beekhof | ok | 20:06 |
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| mattgriffin | i heard from 1 team member (Sriram aka clouddon) who had to step away from the project | 20:06 |
| mattgriffin | he said he'll be back next week | 20:06 |
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| mattgriffin | and another former member, shamail, should be back soon as well | 20:06 |
| mattgriffin | i told them that the key think right now is to review the draft HA Guide and write bugs on fixing/improving the content | 20:07 |
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| mattgriffin | so that's what i've been doing. still reading through the guide from start to finish | 20:07 |
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| mattgriffin | i still need to reach out the other services teams for their help in reviewing content from their expertise view | 20:08 |
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| mattgriffin | those are my updates that i wanted to share | 20:09 |
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| mattgriffin | i think there was 1 bug reported for the ha-guide in the last week which is in progress | 20:10 |
| beekhof | i’ve not been doing much on docs lately, had a few pacemaker things to take care of. | 20:10 |
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| beekhof | was there anything in your reading that you thought i could help with specifically? | 20:10 |
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| mattgriffin | beekhof, don't think so. i'll ping you if i come across something | 20:11 |
| mattgriffin | you might like to check out http://rst.ninjs.org/ as a way to learn more about rst | 20:11 |
| mattgriffin | shamail told me about it yesterday | 20:11 |
| * beekhof takes a look | 20:12 | |
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| beekhof | ah, interesting | 20:12 |
| mattgriffin | yeah | 20:13 |
| beekhof | one thing i hope to do in the near future is take a run through the active/active side of things and talk about how clusters are useful there | 20:13 |
| mattgriffin | that would be great | 20:14 |
| beekhof | i should probably write something about instance HA too | 20:14 |
| beekhof | some people want that | 20:15 |
| mattgriffin | ? | 20:15 |
| beekhof | if a control node dies, the instances are evacuated to another control node | 20:16 |
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| mattgriffin | ah coo | 20:18 |
| mattgriffin | hey Shamail | 20:18 |
| Shamail | Just got the message. Hi. | 20:18 |
| mattgriffin | you here is just driving by? | 20:18 |
| mattgriffin | s/is/or | 20:18 |
| Shamail | I'm here but mobile. I'll be re-engaging more and more as the month goes on. :) | 20:19 |
| mattgriffin | Shamail, cool | 20:19 |
| mattgriffin | beekhof, is a new team member | 20:20 |
| Shamail | Hi beekhof | 20:20 |
| beekhof | howdy | 20:20 |
| mattgriffin | Shamail, i think i mentioned it to you but the key thing now is to review the draft guide for content fixes/improvements | 20:20 |
| mattgriffin | file bugs in the docs project in LP and tag them with 'ha-guide' | 20:20 |
| Shamail | Roger. You did mention that in the email. Can you throw in a #link to the draft? | 20:21 |
| mattgriffin | draft: http://docs.openstack.org/draft/ha-guide/ | 20:21 |
| Shamail | Thanks! | 20:21 |
| mattgriffin | np | 20:22 |
| mattgriffin | please tell anyone else that is an expert in a service | 20:22 |
| Shamail | Will do | 20:23 |
| mattgriffin | that's essentially all i had to cover. any additional things to chat about? | 20:23 |
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| Shamail | None today. I've got some reading to do on my next flight | 20:24 |
| Shamail | :) | 20:24 |
| beekhof | is there a query for finding ha bugs? | 20:25 |
| beekhof | ha doc bugs i mean :) | 20:25 |
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| mattgriffin | when you submit a bug from the web draft doc, it adds the url... so searching for 'ha-guide' will give you a good list | 20:26 |
| mattgriffin | but we should start to tag those with 'ha-guide' in LP | 20:26 |
| beekhof | cool | 20:27 |
| mattgriffin | Shamail, safe travels | 20:27 |
| Shamail | Thanks | 20:27 |
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| mattgriffin | were you in Seattle? | 20:27 |
| * beekhof needs to reboot. cya next time :) | 20:27 | |
| mattgriffin | later beekhof | 20:28 |
| mattgriffin | thanks | 20:28 |
| Shamail | No, at home... Going to ops summit next week | 20:28 |
| Shamail | Cya | 20:28 |
| mattgriffin | gotcha. cool. later | 20:28 |
| mattgriffin | #endmeeting | 20:28 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-08-13-20.00.html | 20:28 |
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