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regXboiola14:59
carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l314:59
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  3 14:59:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:00
haleybhi15:00
vikram__hi15:00
carl_baldwinhi everyone!15:00
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carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:00
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regXboicarl_baldwin: wondering if you were going to make it :)15:00
johnbelamarichi15:00
carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda15:00
pc_mhi15:00
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regXboiwhat's the status of L3?15:00
regXboigiven armax's liberal use of -2s ....15:01
pavel_bondarhi15:01
carl_baldwinI think Liberty-3 should be out soon.15:01
carl_baldwinIf you’re not in now and haven’t talked to armax then the ship has sailed.15:01
regXboicarl_baldwin: I'm more worried about making sure the -2s get pulled from things that should be tagged RC115:02
regXboier s/should be/either are or should be/15:02
carl_baldwinregXboi: A valid concern.  I’ll follow up with armax after I’ve confirmed Liberty-3 is available.15:02
carl_baldwin#action carl_baldwin will follow up on -2s after Liberty-315:03
regXboicarl_baldwin: ack and thanks and I may also :)15:03
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regXboispeak of the devil and he appears :)15:03
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carl_baldwinarmax: hi, we’re just talking about Liberty-3 and -2s.  We can follow up with you later.15:04
carl_baldwinAny other announcements?15:04
carl_baldwin#topic Bugs15:04
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: hi15:04
mlavallehi15:04
armaxcarl_baldwin: liberty-3 should be cut any minute now15:05
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carl_baldwinBTW, it has been great to see increased attention on bugs from an excellent team effort.15:05
mlavalleso I've been researching https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461172, which became critical lately15:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:05
regXboimlavalle: I added a bunch of items in the last 30 minutes :)15:05
carl_baldwinarmax: I thought it must be imminent.15:05
mlavalleI updated the bug itself 30 mintes ago15:05
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks for the update.15:06
regXboimlavalle: I read the conversation in the bug and I'm still scratching my head over what to think of it15:07
mlavalleIt seems that a number of failures are caused by this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19614915:07
carl_baldwinmlavalle: That patch has not been in the gate queue, has it?15:08
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mlavalleso I had chat with pc_m. I probably need to do some research, but just before the meeting started, if I do the query asking to exclude that change, and the ocurences count drops to 215:08
pc_mmlavalle: That is a test change to exercise the experimental Neutron job that runs VPN fucntional tests to detect cross project breakage.15:08
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pc_mThat commit has WIP set.15:09
mlavallecarl_baldwin, pc_m: maybe I am querying logstash wrongly, so for the time being consider this findings tentative15:09
mlavallethis is my query: message: "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy" AND message: FAILED15:09
pc_mmlavalle: I think I actually got the failure to work as expected, so I probably won't need to run much more.15:10
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Could you include the URL for your query in the bug report?15:10
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: I will.... and if it is not glaringly wrong, I'll track it daily, to see what else I can find15:11
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks.15:11
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mlavallethe other high importance bugs that I reviewed seem to have something in progress, so I'll let regXboi take the floor15:12
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regXboithanks, mlavalle15:13
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regXboiso... first is  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/136547315:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte)15:13
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regXboithere is an interesting conversation going there, but I don't see closure on it *yet*15:13
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regXboihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1479130 is also tagged RC-1 and has a couple of patchsets needing review15:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1479130 in neutron "DVR:Removing an interface from router with multiple interfaces and with ext gw set does not remove interface from SNAT namespace" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:14
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regXboithe patch set links are in the agenda15:15
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regXboilast of the high priority items is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/148909115:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1489091 in neutron "neutron l3-agent-router-remove is not unscheduling dvr routers from L3-agents" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Stephen Ma (stephen-ma)15:15
regXboiagain, this has a patch set in the agenda, and I'd like to have it tagged L-RC1 as well15:15
regXboiany comments before I hit the last point?15:16
carl_baldwinregXboi: Done15:16
regXboicarl_baldwin: thx15:16
amullerabout L3 HA + DVR, jschawrz and adolfo are working on it, there's some issues there still. I'm assisting. Hopefully we'll be able to merge it for L, dunno.15:16
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regXboiamuller: thanks for that update15:16
carl_baldwinamuller: Thanks.15:16
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regXboiLastly, I put three Medium bugs in the hopper for being tagged with L-RC1 - They've all got patchsets that have been up for review for a while now15:17
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regXbois/hopper/agenda/15:17
regXboiI wasn't going to paste them into the logs unless specifically asked.15:17
regXboiand that's all I have15:17
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carl_baldwinregXboi: thanks.  Where can we find those three bugs.15:18
carl_baldwin?15:18
regXboicarl_baldwin: they are in the agenda for today15:18
mlavallecarl_baldwin: they are in the agenda15:18
carl_baldwinregXboi: Thanks.15:19
carl_baldwinmlavalle: and thanks.15:19
carl_baldwinAny other bugs to bring up?15:19
* regXboi will have more next week - I'd like to try and cut the backlog down to 10-15 by RC-115:19
mlavallecarl_baldwin: I updated the cirtical bug with my query's url..... let me know if I am doing something stupid :-)15:19
regXboimlavalle: I'll look as well - my logstash fu isn't that strong, but it's getting better15:20
carl_baldwinmlavalle: ack15:20
regXboicarl_baldwin: yes there is one more bug to call out15:20
regXboihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145662415:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1456624 in neutron "DVR Connection to external network lost when associating a floating IP" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata)15:20
mlavalleregXboi, carl_baldwin: thanks15:20
regXboiI think this needs to be bumped from Medium up to High/Critical as it renders (imo) DVR useless for an operator15:21
* regXboi admits that associated patch set could use simplification15:21
carl_baldwinregXboi: Useless?  That was not my interpretation of the problem.15:22
regXboicarl_baldwin: I think so - as I read the bug, existing connections out of the cloud stop working when a new FIP is associated15:22
carl_baldwinBut, I might have missed something.15:22
regXboiI'll take the action item to confirm my understanding and update the bug15:22
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regXboi#action regXboi to triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1456624 to see if his concerns are warranted15:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1456624 in neutron "DVR Connection to external network lost when associating a floating IP" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to venkata anil (anil-venkata)15:23
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carl_baldwinI may have to think about that a bit more.  My understanding was the same but it didn’t strike me as rendering DVR useluss.15:23
carl_baldwinuseless15:23
regXboicarl_baldwin: like I said, let me try it out - I'm setting up a few DVR instances later today and so will have the oppt to more fully examine what happens15:24
regXboi(legacy too for that matter)15:24
carl_baldwinregXboi: Thanks.15:24
carl_baldwinMaybe I’m underestimated the consequences.15:25
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carl_baldwinAny other bugs?15:25
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mlavallenot from me15:26
regXboinot for this week15:26
carl_baldwinMany thanks for your hard work mlavalle, regXboi, and others.15:26
carl_baldwin#topic BGP dynamic routing15:26
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carl_baldwintidwellr: vikram__ :15:26
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tidwellrhi15:26
vikram__hi15:26
tidwellrI'm starting to break down some patches into smaller patch sets, some of the reviews we have are huge15:27
vikram__I am reworking for review findings for the scheduler and agent patches15:28
tidwellrI chatted with armax yesterday, my understanding is that we don't need an RFE to carry this forward into Mitaka15:28
carl_baldwintidwellr: If there is a sensible way to do that, I find it can be a great advantage.15:28
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carl_baldwintidwellr: I agree15:29
carl_baldwinvikram__: ack15:29
carl_baldwintidwellr: vikram__: How is the overall functionality coming along?15:29
tidwellrAgent side is looking really good15:30
vikram__carl_baldwin: I was planned to test E2E but facing some issue to get the env up..15:30
vikram__carl_baldwin: Will start soon15:30
tidwellrI'm working and address scope aware route lookups15:30
tidwellr*on15:31
tidwellrrefactoring of tests is the only thing slowing me down there15:31
vikram__tidwellr: are you planning to move the agent code inside service_plugin folder15:32
vikram__tidwellr: or you will take care of this?15:32
tidwellryes, I can do that15:32
vikram__tidwellr: ok..15:33
tidwellremphasis right now is on an end-to-end demonstration, even if the routes published aren't quite right15:33
vikram__tidwellr: I am working on the setup.. hope by this week will be able to test it15:33
carl_baldwintidwellr: That sounds like a good goal.15:34
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tidwellryes, I'm gearing up to push some patches to enable that today15:34
carl_baldwinGreat, anything we can help out with?  Or, anything more to discuss?15:35
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vikram__carl_baldwin: By when we got to get this code in?15:35
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carl_baldwinvikram__: At this point, it is unlikely to make Liberty, to be honest.  If things come together soon, it could get an FFE but I don’t think it will be considered unless it comes together.15:37
vikram__carl_baldwin: I agree.. We can plan for Mitaka-115:37
carl_baldwinvikram__: yes15:38
carl_baldwin#topic DNS15:38
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: hi15:38
mlavallehi15:38
mlavalleI've ben working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/15:38
mlavalleat this point I got the designate client working15:38
mlavalleI am able to create recordsets and delete them, which is what the interface we defined requires15:39
mlavalleso since yesterday I am adding code to the floating ip side of neutron to start publishing addresses to designate15:39
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Good progress.15:39
mlavalleI should be pushing code again by the end of the week15:40
mlavalleso I feel confident we will do a demo in Tokyo15:40
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mlavalleand since I feel frisky today, I say I live demo15:40
* regXboi notes mlavalle has just written a check15:41
mlavallethat's my report for this15:41
* mlavalle also realizes that, oh well15:41
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: That would be cool.  I’d have some backup screenshots in case one of any number of possible problems arrises.  (like conference wifi issues)15:42
mlavallefully agree :-)15:42
carl_baldwinmlavalle: When do you expect to have things functional?15:43
mlavalleI think next week the fip's are going to be functional15:43
carl_baldwinI guess we’ll do the same as with other features.  When it comes together fully, we’ll take a look at FFE.15:43
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Good work.  Keep it up.15:43
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mlavalleyeah, I don't want to rush it15:44
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carl_baldwin#topic Address Scopes15:45
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carl_baldwinI got this broken down in to smaller patch sets and wrote tests for most of them.  It has come a long way.15:45
carl_baldwinSadly, though, it is in the same boat.  Missed Liberty-3 and has a couple of things preventing me from being totally confident in it.15:46
carl_baldwin1) Still needs some tests at a higher level (though UTs are pretty good now)15:47
carl_baldwin2) I need to make sure it gels with DVR15:47
carl_baldwinI’ll keep working on it.15:47
carl_baldwin#topic Open Discussion15:48
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carl_baldwinAnything else that needs discussion today?15:48
regXboicarl_baldwin: it looks like multinode-dvr failure rates are tracking better to -dvr failure rates15:48
regXboinot good enough to push for voting, *yet*15:48
carl_baldwinregXboi: Thanks for watching.15:49
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mlavallehave a nice rest of the week !15:52
carl_baldwinThanks, all!15:52
carl_baldwin#endmeeting15:52
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neiljerramThanks, bye all!15:53
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pc_mbye15:53
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docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  3 17:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog'17:00
docaedo#topic rollcall17:00
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docaedowhoah, full house! :D17:01
docaedo#topic Status updates (docaedo)17:01
kfox1111:)17:01
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docaedoAs of this week, we are now an official OpenStack project!17:01
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217957/17:01
kfox1111\o/17:01
docaedoAs part of the move, I'll be coordinating with infra to change the repository name from "apps-catalog" to "app-catalog". Aside from that, there won't be too much different.17:02
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docaedothanks for all the support and hard work you've been putting in (especially kfox1111!)17:02
docaedoAlso this week, I created an app-catalog gerrit dashboard17:02
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219809/17:02
docaedoThe full dashboard URL is horrifically long, so I'll share this shortened one:17:03
kfox1111docaedo: thank you too. :)17:03
docaedo#link http://bit.ly/1N37aMS17:03
kzaitsev_mbheh =) I use similar17:03
kzaitsev_mbhave like 6 different dashbords where I only change name of projects ))17:03
docaedokzaitsev_mb: smart :)17:03
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docaedokfox1111: do you want to give a quick update on the work you're doing on the horizon plugin (and anything else that might need updating?)17:04
kfox1111sure.17:04
kfox1111so, as of this morning, it should be totally patchless. :)17:04
kfox1111supports heat, glance and murano.17:05
kzaitsev_mbyep, murano commits with js support merged this morning17:05
kfox1111but not submitted to trunk yet, since we are still waiting on infra. :/17:05
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docaedoI think today is the day that we'll get infra to merge 21889817:06
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218898/17:06
kfox1111Its pretty close now I think to what we can release for liberty.17:06
kfox1111I'd like to get magicsearch working with the icon view, but don't know if there will be enough time for that.17:06
kfox1111I'm also starting to work on getting it packaged. RDO's process is much more involved then I thought it was going to be.17:07
kzaitsev_mbdocaedo: btw, when would the repo name switch?17:07
kfox1111Debian's looking similar too. :/17:07
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docaedokzaitsev_mb: I believe repo name switch will happen 9/8. Last I heard from infra was that is the next scheduled gerrit downtime17:07
docaedoI'll update the channel and ML when it happens, as well as updating the wiki, and then putting a patch through to change the link(s) on the web site itself17:08
kfox1111docaedo: ok. please let us know a day or two ahead if you can, so we can ensure stuff's pushed.17:08
docaedofor sure, as soon as the details are confirmed, I'll let everyone know. it'll no doubt be discussed on #openstack-infra, but that channel has a lot of traffic :)17:09
docaedoany other status updates?17:09
docaedo#topic Review/discuss "new site plans" etherpad (docaedo)17:10
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docaedo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-v2-backend17:10
docaedoI took a quick first pass at it, and see some useful additions as well.17:10
docaedoI suggest we give this a few more days for additions, comments, thoughts. Then next step would be to compare/contrast options for backends that could deliver what we identify on the etherpad.17:11
docaedoTBH I'm hoping we can find a backend (something like django but smaller/lighter?) to use for this rather than just starting from scratch.17:11
kzaitsev_mbflask is the usual choice for something smaller than django =)17:11
kfox1111was thinking about that a bit more...17:12
kfox1111most of the other openstack projects just authenticate with launchpad.17:12
kfox1111should we try and just do the same?17:12
kfox1111I think that's oauth?17:12
ativelkovdocaedo: I'd still prefer glance v3 as a backend17:13
kfox1111ativelkov: we've been discussing that for a while.17:13
kfox11111, we're waiting for a proof of concept.17:13
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docaedoI think launchpad is a yes, oauth is a yes, and we could potentially (oath again) link with others like on ask.openstack.org, just have to sort out the questions about contributing w/r/t openstack17:14
kfox11112, we're not sure glance's api was able to handle being wide open to the internet? (scaling wise)17:14
docaedoativelkov: yeah, it's been a topic in the past, and to be honest, not sure glance is super valuable in this case17:14
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docaedolike, it's great for holding things in a cloud, but all the rest of the stuff (rating, comments/feedback, etc.) would have to be bolted on or implemented externally17:15
kfox11113, does glance's api support staring/feedback on entries? will it ever?17:15
docaedoso glance would give us a UUID for objects that go in, but beyond that, not sure what other advantages?17:15
kfox1111I think at very least, we should try and align glance's metadata and the app catalogs. like, have a nice way to take a glance artifact and ingest it to the catalog, and it pulls in the glance metadata?17:16
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ativelkov"we're waiting for a proof of concept" yup, sorry, I could not work on that. What we have now is Murano stroing its local packages in Glance17:17
ativelkovAfter the FF I can come back to that17:18
kfox1111cool. :)17:18
docaedoativelkov: good to hear :) would be great to see some thoughts about the advantages to using glance as a backend when you have time17:18
kfox1111+117:18
docaedoProbably adding them to that etherpad would be excellent17:18
kzaitsev_mbthat'd be cool17:19
ativelkovdocaedo: same as before: proper handling of versions, cross-object dependencies, ability to build a federation of catalogs and run the catalog locally in the cloud17:19
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ativelkov"does glance's api support staring/feedback on entries?" not now, but will after the large API refactoring which is going to happen in M17:20
j^2hi!17:20
kfox1111hi17:20
j^2sorry about being late17:20
docaedoj^2: welcome, nice to see you here!17:20
j^2:D17:20
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docaedoany other thoughts for now regarding new site architecture? I should be clear too, we're not just talking about a small backend change, we are really talking about completely redesigning the site (so where some binary bits go is a small piece of the picture)17:23
docaedootherwise, I encourage everyone to add their thoughts/bits to that etherpad and over the next few weeks we can refine it and then start building a roadmap for it17:23
kzaitsev_mbso we have to decide some python framework I guess17:23
kfox1111ativelkov: does the glance team have plans for doing glance horizon stuff for pulling from remote repositories?17:24
docaedokzaitsev_mb: yeah I think that's the main thing. Ideally share code on the front end with the horizon plugin, pecan for API stuff, and a DB behind it all.17:24
kfox1111if so, then there's a lot of overlap with the app-catalog-ui.17:25
kfox1111docaedo: +117:25
ativelkovkfox1111: at least for images, yes17:26
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ativelkovfor other types of artifacts their UI will belong to the appropriate projects17:26
kfox1111ativelkov: I thought the idea was all artifacts were glances, long term?17:27
ativelkovkfox1111: stored in glance, yes. But their schema and structure are defined by the plugins, so the UI for it should be owned by the plugin developer17:28
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kfox1111so there is overlap in the ui for nova, but not for the other projects.17:29
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ativelkovnova?17:29
kfox1111imgages17:29
ativelkovyup17:29
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kfox1111seems odd glance would favor one over the others.17:30
ativelkov'cause glance historically manages vm images17:30
ativelkovand this will not be dropped17:30
kfox1111isn't it planned to make images -> artifacts at some point?17:30
ativelkovkfox1111: yes, images will be type of artifact17:30
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kfox1111I still can't version my images. :/17:30
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docaedokfox1111: I think the issue to expand glance is that the other projects have to adopt glance as the store for their things (like heat, and anything else)17:31
ativelkovyup17:31
ativelkovMurano is going to be the first one17:31
docaedo"expand glance" meaning .. see glance as the central piece for the other projects17:31
docaedoativelkov: that's pretty cool, and I think is nice to see for Murano, I'm looking forward to seeing that implemented!17:32
kfox1111yeah...17:32
docaedoshall we move on to open discussion?17:32
kfox1111it puts the app-catalog-ui in an interesting place. because it supports glance and !glance, and eventually all things should go to glance,17:33
kfox1111but glance won't handle the ui for the other things, so the app catalog-ui is still needed as a "central place to go look for things"17:33
docaedokfox1111: yep - I think app-catalog panel in horizon is going to be the place for all the things17:33
docaedoor at least - the place for finding external things and bringing them in17:33
docaedoonce they are in, you'll use whatever (i.e. pull it in via app-catalog plugin, then use glance UI, Murano UI, heat UI, etc)17:34
kfox1111so glance and app-catalog-ui shoudl work together so maybe we can share the code between glance image catalog side, and the app-catalog-ui for the rest of the services.17:34
docaedoapp-catalog as the gateway drug for hooking people on OpenStack!17:34
kfox1111yup. :)17:34
kzaitsev_mbto sum things up — we should add/edit stuff/ideas on the etherpad for the next couple of weeks, to let the iedas settle down, right? =)17:34
docaedokzaitsev_mb: yes, great summary, thank you17:35
kfox1111yup.17:35
kfox1111plus a copule of other things.17:35
kfox1111a glance poc would still really be helpful.17:36
kfox1111and probably some additional conversation with the glance horizon folks17:36
ativelkovwill try working with kzaitsev_mb on this, prbably the next week17:36
docaedoI agree, glance poc would definitely help solidify the thinking/etc17:36
docaedoativelkov: thanks!17:36
kfox1111so that we can ensure we're helping each other.17:36
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docaedook gonna move on (though since next topic is open, we can continue chatting about whatever)17:38
docaedo#topic Open discussion17:38
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kfox1111ativelkov: thanks. :)17:38
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docaedoanyone have anything they want to discuss? speak up :)17:39
docaedoat 10:43 or so I'll call it if nobody else has some things to share17:40
kfox1111I'm good.17:41
docaedoj^2 ativelkov kzaitsev_mb - anything you wanted to chat about?17:42
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j^2nope, i’m just lurking :D17:42
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docaedook then, I think we are done!17:43
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docaedothanks everyone for making it here, and for the conversation today!17:43
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docaedo#endmeeting17:43
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: hi18:00
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: hi18:00
ivar-lazzarohi18:00
mageshgvhi18:00
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: hi ;-)18:01
SumitNaiksatamwaiting for rkukura18:01
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: hi!18:01
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SumitNaiksatamtbachman: sure18:01
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  3 18:02:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:02
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SumitNaiksatam#info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Sept_3rd_201518:02
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SumitNaiksatamsongole: hi18:02
songoleHi SumitNaiksatam18:02
SumitNaiksatami think we decided that over the next few days our focus is going to clean up bugs left over from kilo18:03
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SumitNaiksatamin parallely we will review the long series of NCP related enhancements that ivar-lazzaro has been plugging away at18:03
SumitNaiksatam*in parallel18:03
SumitNaiksatami dont have any updates on the functiona/integrating testing, except that we are some failures in the rally tests18:04
SumitNaiksatamwhich we dicussed before18:04
SumitNaiksatamso i will skip that topic18:04
SumitNaiksatami was waiting for rkukura to join and he might have been able to fill in on the packaging update18:05
SumitNaiksatambut i just received an email from him that he is away and is having issues connecting to freenode18:05
SumitNaiksatamso we will skip packaging as well ;-)18:06
SumitNaiksatamanyone wanted to bring up anything on those items?18:06
SumitNaiksatamok18:06
SumitNaiksatam#topic Bugs18:06
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SumitNaiksatam#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/148865218:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1488652 in Group Based Policy "Implicit L3Policy Creation fails when multiple subnet are configured for an external network" [High,Confirmed]18:07
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: any blockers with proceeding on this one?18:07
ivar-lazzaronot yet18:07
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ivar-lazzarostill figuring out the best way of approaching this, without messing too much with the API18:08
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: right18:08
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i know you have been busy with #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/143281618:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1432816 in Group Based Policy "inconsistent template ownership during chain creation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk)18:08
ivar-lazzaroyep18:08
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ivar-lazzaronow the functional tests are failing, and I'm not sure why18:09
SumitNaiksatamthanks for the summary over emails18:09
rkukurahi - sorry I’m lsyr18:09
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ah nice, glad you were able to join18:09
rkukuralate18:09
ivar-lazzaro(no host match found... Is that transient?)18:09
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: absolutely transient18:09
ivar-lazzarook, because the whole chain failed so I was worried18:09
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: just recheck18:09
ivar-lazzaroActually, I know for sure that provider centric chain patch fails18:09
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: ok18:09
ivar-lazzaro#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215811/18:10
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: do we need to updated gbpfunc?18:10
ivar-lazzaroI think the reason is that I remove the chain agnosting plumber18:10
ivar-lazzaroremoved*18:10
ivar-lazzaroand somehow the environment is using that in the conf file18:10
ivar-lazzaroI can't be sure though, the error is "neutron did not start" but I don't see Neutron logs18:11
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: yeah, the default was the chain agnostic plumber i believe18:11
ivar-lazzaroyeah, but I've modified it18:11
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: these are the logs from the rally job run: http://logs.openstack.org/11/215811/10/check/gate-group-based-policy-dsvm-rally/9ab0410/logs/q-svc.txt.gz18:11
ivar-lazzaronow it's tscp18:11
SumitNaiksatamand these from the devstack:18:12
SumitNaiksatamhttp://logs.openstack.org/11/215811/10/check/gate-group-based-policy-dsvm-functional/7f2bf7e/logs/q-svc.txt.gz18:12
ivar-lazzarooh ok I was looking at the functional18:12
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i would imaging the devstack install itself might have failed18:12
ivar-lazzarommmh Is that in the latest patchset?18:12
SumitNaiksatambut i have not looked18:12
ivar-lazzaroit may be a different error18:12
ivar-lazzaroalso, a very weird one18:12
ivar-lazzaroprobably coming from the tenant ownership patch18:13
SumitNaiksatamyeah seems like18:13
mageshgvIivar-lazzaro:  think Neutron already registers the auth_uri elsewhere18:13
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ivar-lazzaromageshgv: but I don't think I did18:13
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: ok18:13
ivar-lazzarounless something went wrong in the rebase18:13
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/148565618:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1485656 in Group Based Policy "GBP EXT SEG: Destination Routes with valid nexthop fails" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk)18:14
SumitNaiksatamthe above is an apic_mapping driver issue?18:14
ivar-lazzaroI haven't looked at it yet18:15
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: okay18:15
ivar-lazzarobut it's very likely18:15
ivar-lazzarogiven the information should come from the conf file18:16
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: yeah, thats what it seemed like to me18:16
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i am guessing you probably did not have time to look at this: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/148674018:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1486740 in Group Based Policy "GBP Ext-Seg: L3Policy cannot be updated to a new Ext-Seg" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk)18:17
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: over to you18:18
SumitNaiksatamany updates on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/146202418:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1462024 in Group Based Policy "Concurrent create_policy_target_group call fails" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:19
rkukuranoy18:19
SumitNaiksatamthats a tricky one, first needs to be reproduced18:19
rkukuranot yet18:19
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: that one is still related to apic mapping, probably an issue in the REST call we make for that event18:20
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: ah, okay18:20
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: perhaps we should add tags to these or may be move these to openstack-apic LP (we can discuss offline)18:21
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ivar-lazzaroyeah18:21
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: did you get a chance to look at either #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1417312 or #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/147064618:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1417312 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Existing L3Policy results in failure to create PTG with default L2Policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470646 in Group Based Policy "Deleting network associated with L2P results in infinite loop" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:22
rkukurano,18:22
rkukurai’ll be digging into these later today and tomorrow18:22
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay sure18:22
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: over to you :-)18:23
SumitNaiksatam#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1489090 and #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/141883918:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1489090 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Resource intergrity fails between policy-rule-set & external-policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv)18:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1418839 in Group Based Policy "Service config in yaml cannot be loaded" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv)18:23
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: I’m going to have to drop of in a few minutes. Is there anything else we should cover before then?18:23
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: For configuration in yaml support, we only have to enhance the heat based node driver18:24
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: you were going to validate ivar-lazzaro’s changes to the tenant ownership patch?18:24
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: yes, only heat node driver18:25
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: yes18:25
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: you can add the empty conf string check as well ;-)18:25
mageshgvI havent taken a look at the other one. Will look at it  today18:25
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: great thanks18:25
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: okay18:25
SumitNaiksatam#topic NCP enhancements18:25
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SumitNaiksatamthis spec is been sitting for a long time: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203226/18:26
SumitNaiksatamif no one has objections, mageshgv, rkukura we should move forward with it18:26
mageshgvI have one question18:27
rkukuraok, I’ll give it another look18:27
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks18:27
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: go ahead18:27
songoleI will review as well18:27
mageshgv#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203226/3/specs/kilo/traffic-stitching-plumber-placement-type.rst#L6318:27
mageshgvWhen we say a driver needs two PTs and the plumbing type is GATEWAY, does it mean that one of the PTs will be behaving as a Gateway and the other one is just an Endpoint ?18:28
mageshgv*two PTs on provider and two on consumer18:28
ivar-lazzaromageshgv: that needs to be defined by the Plumber18:29
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: okay, will there be another update to the spec later ?18:29
ivar-lazzarocurrently we expect GWs to have 2-3 Ifaces (Management is optional)18:29
ivar-lazzaro2 per group is a good case for HA, but it's not defined yet18:29
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: good point to bring up18:30
ivar-lazzarowe should definitively start the discussion around that18:31
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i believe there was some update related to notifying the consumer PTG as well?18:31
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: okay, do we close on the current spec and the patches and then get started on a model for HA ? or get it done at one stretch ?18:31
ivar-lazzaromageshgv: I would go on that later18:31
ivar-lazzaromageshgv: I mean, I would really like to see chains working with the new model, and then iterate from there :)18:32
rkukuraI need to drop off now - I’ll read the log later. Bye.18:32
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: okay, sounds good. Just wanted to get an idea18:32
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ok bye18:32
ivar-lazzarounless we see that the current interface is completely unusable for that specific use case ofc18:32
ivar-lazzarorkukura: bye!18:32
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mageshgvrkukura: bye18:32
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: that would require a further step in the "provider centric chain"18:33
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: and a backward incompatible API change18:33
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: as is: Each SCI has a list of consumers and 1 provider18:33
ivar-lazzaros/is/in18:33
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i am not clear about the API change part, but we can probably take that offline18:34
ivar-lazzaroEach SCI has one provider18:34
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ivar-lazzarobut can have multiple consumers18:34
ivar-lazzaroso we need a read API change in the SCI model18:34
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: can we just have a notification mechanism rather than API change ?18:34
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: That might preserve the API18:35
ivar-lazzaromageshgv: you still need to keep the information about who is consuming the chain18:35
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i believe mageshgv is suggesting that the driver can keep that information in today’s model18:35
ivar-lazzaromageshgv: that could be retrieve from the PRS18:35
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: Ah, yes, without the API the user wont be able to keep track18:35
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: as long as it gets the notification18:35
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: correct me if that is not what you meant18:35
mageshgvivar-lazzaro, SumitNaiksatam: For a node driver it should not matter as long as it gets notified when a consumer is added or removed18:36
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: yeah18:36
ivar-lazzaroyeah that is doable, also quite important to implement to make auto scaling work18:36
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: ah good point18:36
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ivar-lazzarohowever, I believe we are at the point where NCP and TScP is too big18:37
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: okay18:37
ivar-lazzaroat least the part that is not reviewed18:37
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: can you close loop with ivar-lazzaro if you need this notification from the get-go?18:38
ivar-lazzarowe have to make progress and find issues with the current code, everything that is "needed but clearly feasible" should be pushed to when we know that what we have makes sense18:38
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mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: okay18:38
ivar-lazzaroTScP can be tested without autoscaling18:38
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: ivar-lazzaro: thanks18:38
SumitNaiksatamokay i think we covered all the major items today, and rkukura dropped off as well18:38
songoleivar-lazzaro: what do you mean by auto-scaling?18:38
songoleadding members to group?18:39
ivar-lazzarosongole: to a LB pool for instance18:39
ivar-lazzarosongole: for each new PT in the group, add it to the LB pool18:39
ivar-lazzarotoday that still works since it's on the provider side18:39
songoleok. got it18:40
ivar-lazzarobut similar things on the *consumer* side may be useful as well18:40
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ivar-lazzarowe need to identify the use cases, and then add the feature... But we should not keep implementing blindly before we know that what we have done so far works18:40
ivar-lazzaroas in: let's focus on reviews :)18:41
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: was your use case related to auto-scaling?18:41
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: i thought you had different use case with regards to configuring the firewall rules which needed the consumer PTG information?18:42
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: No, it was related to firewall rule addition based on consumer CIDRs18:42
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: right18:42
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: so yeah, its not a blind wishlist that we are discussing18:42
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: that's not what I meant :) I know there are use cases18:43
ivar-lazzaroI'm saying that I think it's unadvisable to add non critical stuff before we have at least some coverage on the current implementation18:44
ivar-lazzaro(by non critical I mean that at least one chain can be created without it)18:44
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: it seemed like a non-starter for mageshgv’s firewall support without this18:45
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: but i dont think its blocking the current review18:45
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam, ivar-lazzaro: right, we can have a service instantiated, but no configuration applied18:46
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: I think both notifications and HA should be targeted for our first release18:46
ivar-lazzaroin that order then! :)18:46
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: but since we were discussing the spec, i would imagine this is something we should be adding this to the design18:46
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: implementation can follow in subsequent patches18:47
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: if that's a blocker I agree18:47
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: and i agree the current patches should be reviewed as they are18:47
ivar-lazzaroOk18:47
ivar-lazzarosounds good to me18:47
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: so was not suggesting changes to the implementation of the current patches ;-)18:47
ivar-lazzaroWe can discuss the notifications in the current spec (since it's critical) and HA in a subsequent one18:47
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: awesome!18:47
SumitNaiksatamalright, i think we have a lot of different pieces in the air18:47
SumitNaiksatamwe will continue our offline meetings as well to follow up on the bugs we discussed today18:48
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:48
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SumitNaiksatamanything else anyone wanted to bring up?18:48
ivar-lazzaroI have a question about the admin chain ownership patch18:49
SumitNaiksatam#chair ivar-lazzaro mageshgv songole18:49
openstackCurrent chairs: SumitNaiksatam ivar-lazzaro mageshgv songole18:49
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: go head18:49
SumitNaiksatam*ahead18:49
SumitNaiksatami need to step away for a few minutes18:49
ivar-lazzaroCan we clarify what is the requirement for Keystone V3 at this point?18:49
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: mageshgv songole can you close the meeting?18:49
ivar-lazzaroby that I mean: is it a blocker for testing? Is it doable by the Node Driver alone?18:50
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: I cross checked the workflow. I think we are fine with v2 for now. v3 is only required if the admin user is in a non "default" domain18:50
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ivar-lazzaroI would like to possibly find a way of seamlessly use V2 and V3 for something as simple as retrieving an ID... But it doesn't look very easy it seems18:51
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ivar-lazzaromageshgv: ok, that gives as some time to add it as a subsequent patch18:51
ivar-lazzarootherwise the whole chain would have been blocked by this18:51
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: right, the major difference is that v2 apis cannot see the v3 projects in different domains18:51
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: I can give a proper confirmation in a day or two , but I think it looks okay18:52
ivar-lazzarois a V2 "tenant" readable in a V3 "project" ?18:52
ivar-lazzaroor are those just completely separated?18:53
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: yes, v2 tenants are readable in V318:53
ivar-lazzaroso could the V3 client work with the V2 URI?18:53
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ivar-lazzarolike, it figures out how to make the right call?18:53
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: That I am not sure of18:53
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: right, may be we can address that in a subsequent patch at a later point when required18:54
ivar-lazzarook sounds good to me18:54
ivar-lazzaroAnything else?18:54
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mageshgvivar-lazzaro: nothing else from my side :-18:55
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ivar-lazzaroIf not, we can spare this 5 minutes and move back to our lovely python :)18:55
tbachmanlol18:55
mageshgv:)18:55
ivar-lazzarook guys thanks for joining!18:56
ivar-lazzaro#endmeeting18:56
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mageshgvbye18:56
ivar-lazzarowow that was exciting!18:56
ivar-lazzaro:D18:56
tbachman:)18:56
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mattgriffin#startmeeting ha-guide20:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  3 20:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattgriffin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ha_guide'20:00
mattgriffinhello. anyone else here for the HA Guide meeting?20:00
bogdando_hi20:01
mattgriffinhey bogdando_20:01
mattgriffingood to see you20:02
mattgriffinanyone else here for the HA Guide meeting?20:03
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mattgriffinbogdando_, i made a brief agenda here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Next_Meeting20:06
mattgriffin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Next_Meeting20:06
mattgriffinso the main activity going on now is reviewing the content20:07
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mattgriffinthis spreadsheet details which areas have been migrated from docbook to rst - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17EApMTVzCgddR62ZYJC4qAs9imdZWDcSy81UNEae8WY/edit#gid=020:08
mattgriffinso we've been going through the Guide on our own time to look for bugs or large content problems20:08
mattgriffinbogdando_, any questions?20:10
mattgriffinso far :)20:10
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bogdando_thank you, I will take a look now20:12
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mattgriffincool20:14
bogdando_would be nice to move the meeting time 2 hours earlier20:14
bogdando_that will be 8pm my local time20:14
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mattgriffinbogdando_, yeah. i can help set up a survey for that to get more participation. i think i used http://doodle.com/ in the past for that20:15
mattgriffinto conduct an easy poll20:15
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mattgriffinevery once in a while i've been checking https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/?field.searchtext=ha-guide&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&fi20:18
mattgriffineld.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= for new bugs about the draft content20:18
mattgriffinthat's a horrible link20:19
bogdando_:)20:19
mattgriffinanything submitted from the "bug" link in the draft HA Guide will have 'ha-guide' in the url so it's easy to search for them this way20:20
mattgriffinif you know some people that can review content based on their area of expertise, that would help20:20
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bogdando_I have no questions actually. I'm ready for content review for my favorite HA areas like db/messaging/pacemaker...20:21
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mattgriffinthat's great20:21
mattgriffin:)20:22
bogdando_and I will ask other team members to participate, ofc20:22
mattgriffinfantastic20:22
mattgriffinthank you20:22
bogdando_I mean my Fuel team, first of all20:22
mattgriffinlove that product20:23
mattgriffinso do you want to take the meetings from now on? how do you want to transition?20:23
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bogdando_We could discuss this. I'd like to 'onboard' a bit20:30
mattgriffinnp20:30
mattgriffinhow about you focus on content reviews and i'll kick off the survey to move the meeting time20:31
bogdando_sounds like a plan20:32
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bogdando_And I will definitely need in some initial help for transitioning20:33
bogdando_running irc meetings, for example :)20:34
mattgriffincool. i'll just note a few action items...20:34
mattgriffin#action bogdando_ focus on content reviews with his team and colleagues20:35
mattgriffin#action mattgriffin kick off the survey to move the meeting time20:35
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mattgriffinbogdando_, great. any other items to discuss now?20:35
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bogdando_I think no20:40
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mattgriffin@bouthors_, cool. ending meeting20:57
mattgriffin#endmeeting20:57
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