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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 12:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 12:00:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 12:00 |
| david-lyle | anyone around to talk horizon | 12:01 |
| david-lyle | ? | 12:01 |
| doug-fish | good morning | 12:01 |
| tsufiev | o/ | 12:01 |
| mrunge | o/ good morning | 12:01 |
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| david-lyle | Let's talk Liberty RC-1 | 12:02 |
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| david-lyle | #topic RC-1 | 12:02 |
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| david-lyle | Talking to rel-mgmt, it seems we should have the FFEs landed by the end of the week | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | and try to have an RC by the end of next week | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | so that means code for the FFEs need to land quickly and the focus should move to bugs | 12:04 |
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| david-lyle | I need to start paring down the FFE list and bug list to be more tracking of what needs to be in vs what would be nice | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | if fact, I think it would be nice to look at some of the bugs here to make a more informed decision on removing from RC-1 | 12:05 |
| robcresswell | I've been having a go at that. I think its closer to 25, down from 40+, bug wise. Curvature is ready, shelving is in, and I'm still going over databases bp. | 12:05 |
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| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 12:06 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: ok, thanks | 12:06 |
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| david-lyle | for FFEs I think images won't make it, the other reasonably should | 12:07 |
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| david-lyle | now looking at bugs | 12:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 12:07 |
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| robcresswell | There's a few angular related ones which could be bumped from rc1 for sure. | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: ok, sorry reading XSS one | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | will finish comments later | 12:11 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, masco tried to reproduce the first one xss, but failed | 12:11 |
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| masco_ | yes | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | yeah that needs further investigation | 12:12 |
| masco_ | i tried with the options what the reporter said | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | if it's there, is been there forever | 12:12 |
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| masco_ | he is hesitating to share the file to reproduce the issue :( | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | ok, I'll leave it in RC-1 for now, but not sure I will block on it | 12:13 |
| mrunge | nevertheless, while looking at container code, there's much room for improvement | 12:14 |
| tsufiev | (Like throwing it away completely) | 12:14 |
| tsufiev | :) | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: no doubt | 12:14 |
| mrunge | hey, it's not sahara code | 12:14 |
| mrunge | I mean sahara dashboard | 12:15 |
| david-lyle | I've suggested containers as a work area to many people, no bites | 12:15 |
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| mrunge | about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1494171 | 12:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494171 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Javascript error: Module 'horizon.auth' is not available!" [High,Confirmed] | 12:16 |
| mrunge | I'fe had another report about this | 12:16 |
| mrunge | kfox111 was able to reproduce it | 12:16 |
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| robcresswell | Yeah, from kfox right? He was asking about it | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | since the second XSS is an indirect vector, I'm moving to next | 12:17 |
| robcresswell | It was in another package I thought mrunge | 12:17 |
| mrunge | robcresswell, we now have 2 packages reporting the same issue with missing horizon.auth | 12:17 |
| mrunge | one debian, one is mine | 12:18 |
| ducttape_ | I have seen the issue too, this collect static stuff etc needs a test case | 12:18 |
| ducttape_ | something to automatically flag it | 12:18 |
| mrunge | ducttape_, collectstatic was executed | 12:18 |
| ducttape_ | I have no doubt, but something to test we have all the js in the correct order and locations | 12:19 |
| mrunge | and the environment was rebuilt before creating the package | 12:19 |
| mrunge | but I agree | 12:19 |
| mrunge | would be great to test js in order etc. | 12:19 |
| * robcresswell points at tsufiev | 12:19 | |
| ducttape_ | when I saw it, I was missing some js libraries that were supposed to be autocollected etc. this is the result of having autocollection, in my experience | 12:20 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: huh? | 12:20 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: They were asking for tests :p | 12:20 |
| ducttape_ | tsufiev - Rob is signing you up to test all the things ;) | 12:20 |
| mrunge | awesome, thank you robcresswell | 12:21 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: the issue being discussed would have been caught by i9n tests for sure | 12:21 |
| mrunge | is that due to autocollection feature? | 12:21 |
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| mrunge | if yes, can we revert that *feature*? | 12:21 |
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| ducttape_ | i think it's quite core to having stuff work, as you are seeing right now | 12:22 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: I think it' s'more likely some unit-tests | 12:22 |
| ducttape_ | the other option is having a static html list of js includes | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | the problem with disabling autodiscovery is then we have to specify all js files in plugin, or content loaded as a plugin, which is all | 12:23 |
| robcresswell | With angular that list would be colossal | 12:23 |
| ducttape_ | its a few hundred lines, if I recall | 12:23 |
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| mrunge | yes, and it will be loaded, even if you're not using features | 12:24 |
| robcresswell | ducttape_: For a couple of panels... | 12:24 |
| robcresswell | I think one thing this does highlight is a big disconnect between developers and packagers that we need to fix. | 12:24 |
| ducttape_ | I think we still need to dig into this, the bug may or may not be autodiscovery | 12:24 |
| robcresswell | ducttape_: agreed | 12:25 |
| mrunge | right | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | yes | 12:25 |
| robcresswell | It would be good to get more info or docs etc on what packagers need us to be aware of | 12:25 |
| robcresswell | pain points etc | 12:25 |
| mrunge | robcresswell, still on my todo list | 12:25 |
| ducttape_ | I agree, this is also a side effect of xstatic.... which haunts me when I think about it | 12:25 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: on the second thought, I don't know whether auto discovery is enabled in i9n tests | 12:26 |
| mrunge | uhm, not sure if this is an issue of xstatic | 12:26 |
| tsufiev | Might be not | 12:26 |
| ducttape_ | right, let's get it understood first | 12:26 |
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| mrunge | I'm seeing myself hacking a something together about packaging | 12:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it sounds like we've wandered into xstatic ;) | 12:26 |
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| robcresswell | mrunge: Sure, I know you're busy, wasn't supposed to be calling you out on it :) | 12:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | and probably shouldn't have | 12:27 |
| mrunge | most probably to be done during the flight to tokyo | 12:27 |
| ducttape_ | r1chardj0n3s - we are wandering away. don't go near there! | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | yes, autodiscovery and xstatic are not related | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | other than the word static | 12:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I have a cleanup for xstatic in the works, just getting distracted by doa/tempest/devstack :/ | 12:27 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, doa could keep you busy for a longer time | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | any bugs targeting RC-1 <= medium will be removed from the list | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | the d-o-a issue is important because it blocks another release | 12:28 |
| r1chardj0n3s | nooo, I just want my simple fix to the model in and a bunch of stuff in horizon is fixed by it and I can move on with my life please pretty please? :) | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | which we have a minor FFE in around WebSSO and the login fix patch | 12:29 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Which patch? | 12:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222478/ | 12:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it ran smack into a devstack change that sdague checked in last week that broke a few gates :/ | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | and the webSSO is +A'd but got caught in the gate | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | I'll push to see if we can get that reverted for now | 12:30 |
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| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Ah, doa :p | 12:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: yes, hi :) | 12:31 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | lol, nice try! | 12:31 |
| mrunge | let's merge doa into horizon | 12:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | this meeting is recorded, you know :) | 12:31 |
| mrunge | and then deprecate it | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | dangit | 12:32 |
| tsufiev | mrunge: seems reasonable to me as well | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | Can we *please* merge curvature :) | 12:32 |
| mrunge | (the first part, tsufiev) | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: still trying to find time to code review it | 12:33 |
| doug-fish | on curvature - I've missed many of the demos at-scale. Is it working well now? | 12:33 |
| ducttape_ | it is, seems pretty ready to go | 12:33 |
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| david-lyle | doug-fish: yes has been the consensus | 12:33 |
| doug-fish | cool | 12:33 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: I'm afraid if we start reading curvature code there will be another couple of weeks to polish it | 12:34 |
| david-lyle | there was a red-herring the past couple of days, but... | 12:34 |
| robcresswell | I'm reluctant to approve it again, because I'm starting to look like I'm forcing it through. IMO its been pretty feature ready for the past 2/3 patchsets, but we keep adding little tweaks to it. | 12:34 |
| ducttape_ | if we don't read the code, thats a pretty scary thing too | 12:34 |
| robcresswell | One would hope code review involves looking at the code... | 12:35 |
| ducttape_ | exactly | 12:35 |
| doug-fish | you mean _all_ of the code? | 12:35 |
| doug-fish | *kidding* | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | ok | 12:35 |
| tsufiev | ducttape_: nope, I meant some tiny refactoring a that I already did while angularizing it | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | so bugs and FFEs are the priority | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | timeline again, FFEs by the end of the week, or moved to M | 12:36 |
| doug-fish | sorry - before we move on - does curvature have/need FFE? | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | and RC hopefully next week | 12:36 |
| robcresswell | doug-fish: It has FFE | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: has | 12:36 |
| doug-fish | ok thx | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | #topic summit planning | 12:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit planning (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 12:37 | |
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| david-lyle | it's the time where we set up session planning, in the past we've done that on etherpad | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | that's a bit messy | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | but manageable | 12:38 |
| david-lyle | another option is google forms | 12:38 |
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| david-lyle | but access is no global to that | 12:38 |
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| david-lyle | any preferences? | 12:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I propose we lock ourselves in a room and don't come out until we have a solid plan for domain-scoped tokens and federation and get past the endless bickering... | 12:38 |
| ducttape_ | -1 | 12:39 |
| ducttape_ | there is no hope | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | of course, we'll all starve | 12:39 |
| ducttape_ | I'd go with etherpad | 12:39 |
| robcresswell | etherpad has worked, stick with that I suppose. Bit messy, but seems to function okay. | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | etherpad is fine :) | 12:39 |
| mrunge | as long as we have beer, or shiraz r1chardj0n3s ... | 12:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | currently sipping whiskey ;) | 12:39 |
| tsufiev | +1 for etherpad & beer | 12:40 |
| mrunge | let's do an etherpad and try to keep total lines low | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | domain scoped token will go in early post Liberty in d-o-a | 12:40 |
| ducttape_ | or a really small font :P | 12:40 |
| robcresswell | Haha I still have this amazing memory of r1chardj0n3s and sqchen having this deep technical discussion, turning me to and saying "did you get all that down?" and I just looked up from my keyboard and groaned. | 12:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :D | 12:40 |
| robcresswell | Less hangover on Friday for me this time. | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | ok, I will set up an etherpad and post to the mailing list | 12:40 |
| robcresswell | Sounds good | 12:41 |
| mrunge | thank you david-lyle | 12:41 |
| david-lyle | #action david-lyle create etherpad for session planning email to dev list | 12:41 |
| amotoki | +1 for etherpad. it is important to ensure we put your name when you put an idea to etherpad | 12:41 |
| mrunge | +1 amotoki | 12:41 |
| mrunge | good suggestion | 12:41 |
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| david-lyle | #topic PTL elections | 12:42 |
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| david-lyle | So the nomination season is open. This is the last day to submit your self-nominations. Voting if necessary will be held the next week, IIRC | 12:43 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle: do we have a choice :)? | 12:43 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: always | 12:43 |
| mrunge | voting will begin tomorrow | 12:43 |
| david-lyle | thanks mrunge | 12:44 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: I encourage anyone who thinks they want or can improve on the job being done, or just wanting a change to run | 12:44 |
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| david-lyle | #topic Choosing a final replacement name for an 'AVAILABLE_REGIONS' setting | 12:46 |
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| david-lyle | no author but I'm looking at tsufiev :) | 12:46 |
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| tsufiev | So lhcheng suggested to drop AVAILABLE_ prefix because it's excessive | 12:47 |
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| mrunge | shouldn't REGIONS be renamed to something else? | 12:47 |
| tsufiev | Meaning that the new setting name is AVAILABLE_REGIONS -> KEYSTONE_ENDPOINTS | 12:47 |
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| mrunge | yes! | 12:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yes, I think I already +1'ed that :) | 12:48 |
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| mrunge | make sense to me, | 12:48 |
| masco_ | +1 | 12:48 |
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| david-lyle | ok, are we resolved on changing, I propose and indefinite deprecation cycle to accommodate existing installations | 12:48 |
| mrunge | do you have a review handy? | 12:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | seems fair | 12:48 |
| doug-fish | I think that's fine for the setting -- but is that how we'd label the field in the UI? | 12:48 |
| mrunge | yesm david-lyle | 12:48 |
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| mrunge | uhm, do we have it at all in UI? | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: yes | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | two places | 12:49 |
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| tsufiev | mrunge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222129/ | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | one in d-o-a and one optional header in Horizon | 12:49 |
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| mrunge | I thought we present it, yes, but without a name on it | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | ah, trying to remember user visible string | 12:50 |
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| david-lyle | Region | 12:50 |
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| david-lyle | :) | 12:51 |
| david-lyle | suggestions on that change? | 12:51 |
| tsufiev | doug-fish: doesn't federation bp aim to somehow hide keystone ENDPOINTS in user facing UI? | 12:51 |
| david-lyle | Cloud? | 12:51 |
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| doug-fish | tsufiev: maybe ... federated keystones wouldn't have to be explicitly chosen, their regions would just be available | 12:52 |
| mrunge | sounds cloudy, but I can not think of a better term | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | I'm good with the new setting name, for the record | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | it's the most accurate, but I'll look for further input | 12:52 |
| tsufiev | doug-fish: so I think we should have consistent UI for both federated and non-federated setups | 12:52 |
| masco_ | we can get list of name and give it for voting | 12:53 |
| doug-fish | tsufiev: I'm not sure that will be possible: non-federated setups expose the keystone endpoints before login; federated setups discover the keystone endpoints after login | 12:53 |
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| doug-fish | tsufiev: I suppose some kind of hybrid of this would be possible, but that kind of makes my head hurt. | 12:54 |
| david-lyle | I think that's a discussion for a different time :) | 12:54 |
| doug-fish | agreed. | 12:54 |
| tsufiev | doug-fish: do we mean the same thing here by keystone endpoint? | 12:55 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle: okay | 12:55 |
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| david-lyle | perhaps Tokyo? | 12:55 |
| doug-fish | indeed | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 12:55 |
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| tsufiev | Have you seen my recent mail about cinder quotas? | 12:56 |
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| david-lyle | tsufiev: I read through it, basically we have a bogus policy choice | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | did cinder implement limits instead? | 12:57 |
| amotoki | info: this mail: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074351.html | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | or are we just forcing worse UX on users? | 12:57 |
| tsufiev | amotoki: thanks! | 12:57 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle: no insight about cinder :( | 12:58 |
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| robcresswell | Did nobody from Cinder reply? | 12:58 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: not yet | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: I don't believe they did, just recalling the nova fun | 12:59 |
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| amotoki | at least we should use a same policy for quota-show among nova, cinder, neutron and other projects. | 13:00 |
| david-lyle | I'll work on some input/feedback from cinder | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | we are out of time | 13:01 |
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| david-lyle | Thanks everyone and please focus your reviews on the remaining FFEs and bugs for RC-1 | 13:01 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 13:01 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 13:01:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-09-16-12.00.html | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-09-16-12.00.txt | 13:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-09-16-12.00.log.html | 13:02 |
| masco_ | bye all | 13:02 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 13:02 |
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| mrunge | bye | 13:02 |
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| ihrachys | hey qos folks :) | 13:58 |
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| ajo | hi ndipanov , johnthetubaguy , ihrachys , irenab | 14:00 |
| ajo | waiting a couple of minutes to be all in sync | 14:01 |
| ajo | ping irenab , she told me se could join late. | 14:01 |
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| ajo | hi vladikr :-) | 14:01 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 14:01 |
| moshele | hi | 14:02 |
| ajo | hi moshele , irenab_ , hi njohnston :) | 14:02 |
| ndipanov | o/ | 14:02 |
| ihrachys | \o/ | 14:02 |
| ajo | :) | 14:02 |
| ajo | ok | 14:02 |
| ajo | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 14:02:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ajo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| Irenab_ | Hi | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:02 |
| ajo | Thanks everybody for joining, specially thanks to the nova folks for joining us: ndipanov , vladikr and johnthetubaguy | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | hi all | 14:03 |
| ajo | We need to make some progress in a couple of topics regarding nova-neutron integration for QoS | 14:03 |
| ajo | #topic nova-neutron integration : flavours?, or how do we do it | 14:03 |
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| ajo | First one, we need some way to make sure we can have some sort of association from the type of instance tenant picks to the QoS level he gets, | 14:04 |
| ajo | or something equivalent, I know johnthetubaguy commented something about vif flavours? (could be?) but I'm unaware of what did you mean with that | 14:04 |
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| ajo | is that something gestating on the nova side? | 14:04 |
| ihrachys | we may need it for stuff outside qos btw, like jumbo | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | no, I was thinking on the neutron side | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | really, I am thinking about volumes | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | with volumes you have your SSD vs spinning disk volumes | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | and they have have different QoS setup | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | and you pick what happens by selecting a volume type owned by cinder | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have always liked the idea of something similar in Neutron | 14:06 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, ack, may be we could setup something like port flavors speciying the level of Qos + the type of nic, for example, and nova could reference that from it's own flavors in a key? | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | ideally no | 14:06 |
| ajo | QoS policies are quite like flavors, but, dont' specify the type of nic, for example | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | users are meant to create ports, then pass them into nova | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | when they create the port, they need to set QoS | 14:06 |
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| ajo | johnthetubaguy, doesn't nova create the ports now? | 14:06 |
| ajo | I mean, you can specify a port id, but you can specify the network | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | ajo: in the happy case, it does not | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have some code we want to deprecate that can create ports for you, mostly for backwards compatiblitiy | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | now thats an extreme view of the world | 14:07 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, unless we enforce nova not to be able to do that, it's out of our control a bit, or nova may need to receive the "flavor" of port it will create | 14:07 |
| ajo | net-id=xxxx,port-flavor=xxxx (or qos-policy=xxxxx) | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | but in theory, we build for that world, then add any sugar that you need to make that true | 14:07 |
| ihrachys | johnthetubaguy: so basically you suggest to have no integration, and allow users to assign QoS policies to ports prior to passing them to nova, basically smth that we already have | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | Nova would just use a default port flavor, I would assume | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | ihrachys: so if that works already today, thats interesting | 14:08 |
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| ajo | ihrachys, in that case, we miss a way in QoS to enforce default policies to ports per tenant (via Role based access control, I guess) | 14:08 |
| ajo | we need that anyway | 14:08 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, or have one per tenant, | 14:09 |
| ihrachys | ajo: it can be similar to default sec groups | 14:09 |
| ajo | ok, at worst, we could just pass the policy id / or flavor, along with the net-id to nova, if that works... | 14:09 |
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| ajo | or we don't , encouraging the people to create the port first | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | well ideally neutron knows about the default volume type, and just deals with it when we don't specify one | 14:09 |
| ihrachys | ajo: I actually think that preparing port for nova is the ideal situation, but some people complain about complexity behind neutron flow | 14:09 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, ok, I guess that makes sense, | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | but if you want something other than the default, yeah, I would prefere them to create things up front really | 14:10 |
| ndipanov | and when you do need to specify? you need to create a port first? | 14:10 |
| ihrachys | not sure adding required explicit port allocation step will help | 14:10 |
| ajo | ndipanov, yes, that's what johnthetubaguy means | 14:10 |
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| ajo | and I agree with ihrachys, we grow complexity of the user, but... | 14:10 |
| ajo | only if they want to move to a non-default policy | 14:10 |
| ihrachys | that said, I believe all complexity concerns should be hidden on client layer, not API | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so if you want to do security groups, today, you create your ports upfront, else crazy things happen, as I understand it | 14:11 |
| ihrachys | and if we can live with decoupled nova and neutron, then I am good to stay lazy | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I don't see any change here with qos | 14:11 |
| ajo | decoupling is better | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | so my thing is more, we assume decoupled | 14:11 |
| ihrachys | then why do you suggest integration in the first place? :) | 14:11 |
| ajo | may be we need a third project to provide "flavors" ;) | 14:12 |
| ajo | since an instance is comprised by volume, net, compute, etc... | 14:12 |
| moshele | maybe it should be part of the openstack client project | 14:12 |
| ajo | ;) | 14:12 |
| * ajo adds more complexity ;D | 14:12 | |
| johnthetubaguy | ajo: so thats how glance started, but lets not go there | 14:12 |
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| ajo | johnthetubaguy, I'm partly joking, but worried about usability | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the idea, originally was that heat would know about ports and servers, and help tie those together, its not really turned out that way | 14:13 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, may be it's, as ihar said, something to be left to the client (horizon, cmdline..) | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | so here is the thing... | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | my view is that we should make it work with creating ports up front | 14:13 |
| ihrachys | yeah, heat did not prove itself successful :( | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | if we need something else, then maybe, but that comes second | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | ihrachys: not sure, I think its doing some good stuff, just not really that | 14:13 |
| ihrachys | johnthetubaguy: with ports prepared, it works now | 14:14 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, that has to be assumed, it's on our agenda for M | 14:14 |
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| ihrachys | johnthetubaguy: re heat - more about expectations of universal adoption | 14:14 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, but we're looking for the plan forward in coordination with nova. Will that work for users, do they need something more? | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | ihrachys: but it sounds like its two granular, and there are no flavors, quotas and policy? | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | ihrachys: ah, thats fair | 14:15 |
| ihrachys | johnthetubaguy: there are qos policies that are attachable to ports | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | ihrachys: OK, so maybe we are there then | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | so what happens by default if I don't set any QoS policy? | 14:15 |
| ihrachys | johnthetubaguy: if you mean neutron should have a global flavor that would be superset of qos policies and something else, then yes, it's not there | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | its just open? | 14:15 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy, we're only missing: when you create a port, what's the default policy for a given tenant | 14:15 |
| ihrachys | johnthetubaguy: if no policy is set, no policy is applied | 14:15 |
| ajo | or.. a flavor if we make a superset containing more details about ports | 14:16 |
| ajo | (vnic type, qos policy, etc..) | 14:16 |
| ihrachys | johnthetubaguy: there is no modifiable default policy | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, well, surely it might be per network? in the provider network case? | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we should consider how default policies work when you create your ports before starting your VM, basically | 14:16 |
| ihrachys | we can attach policies to networks already | 14:16 |
| ihrachys | and ports inherit it | 14:16 |
| ajo | true | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | ihrachys: cool, so maybe what we need is a default policy that gets attached to user created networks? | 14:17 |
| ihrachys | I will also side note that neutron still does not have modifiable sec groups | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | although that sounds a little useless | 14:17 |
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| ihrachys | so here, we are consistent in not supporting it :) | 14:17 |
| ajo | ok | 14:17 |
| ajo | here we have two points of view | 14:17 |
| ajo | 1) all left to port creation and neutron control | 14:17 |
| ajo | and so controlled by the client (in regards of flavor relations if user wants that) | 14:18 |
| ajo | 2) the port flavor/qos_policy key to flavors, so nova can tell neutron | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | but for 1) you do have nice controlled defaults, which should just work when nova creates the ports right? | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | so here is the problem... | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | you pick flavor 7 | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | it says QoS policy A | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | but you pass in your own port with QoS policy B | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | now what does that mean? | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | leaving this all in Nova really side steps that issue | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops | 14:19 |
| ihrachys | that's an interesting note | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | leaving this all in Neutron side steps that | 14:19 |
| ajo | yes, | 14:20 |
| ajo | that's a fair point, I was just thinking of that | 14:20 |
| ajo | even if nova changed the QoS, user could move it to a different one if he wanted / had access to it | 14:20 |
| ajo | so may be, quotas, enforcement and defaults should be left to neutron, | 14:20 |
| ajo | and make horizon aware of it | 14:21 |
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| ajo | with some mechanism to be able to specify access & default policies for tenant network / port creation | 14:21 |
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| ajo | does that sound reasonable? | 14:21 |
| ajo | I know irenab_ was rising the this topic of flavours initially, so irenab_ irenab , you may want to read the log later and ping us via mail if you see any concern | 14:22 |
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| ihrachys | yes, it seems to me no integration is actually needed | 14:22 |
| Irenab_ | Sure, will follow up later | 14:22 |
| ajo | +1 johnthetubaguy , thanks for discussing this with us, the feedback has been very valuable | 14:23 |
| ajo | so, let's move on | 14:23 |
| ajo | #topic nova-neutron integration: bandwidth guarantees, and overcommitments... | 14:23 |
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| ajo | vladikr, ndipanov ^ | 14:23 |
| ajo | how do we handle that? | 14:23 |
| ndipanov | well | 14:23 |
| ajo | we can set a policy that says "guarantee 1Gbps on this port" | 14:24 |
| ndipanov | it's tricky really | 14:24 |
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| ajo | but if it's plugged to the wrong compute node, or the wrong PF, it won't work | 14:24 |
| ajo | ndipanov: nothing is easy lately :) | 14:24 |
| ndipanov | so we are only assuming this when using physical ports (VFs) | 14:24 |
| vladikr | PFs | 14:25 |
| ajo | ndipanov: our goal is to do it also for virtio ports | 14:25 |
| vladikr | ah | 14:25 |
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| ajo | but I understand that'd require neutron coordination | 14:25 |
| ndipanov | ajo I thought so | 14:25 |
| Irenab_ | Are you talking about sriov only? | 14:25 |
| ajo | as neutron knows what's the upstream port/route/tunnel for a network | 14:25 |
| ajo | Irenab_: we may solve both, may be not both at the same time, as requisites and interactions could be different | 14:25 |
| ndipanov | ok so the way nova scheduling currently works is the compute host publishes it's data about available resources | 14:26 |
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| ndipanov | so available bandwith would have to be published as well | 14:26 |
| ajo | ndipanov, aha | 14:26 |
| ajo | ndipanov, and also, be known internally on nova-compute for the PF/VFs relationship | 14:26 |
| Irenab_ | So nova will do bw bookkeeping? | 14:26 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, similar things keep popping up with cinder (like proximity to volumes etc) | 14:26 |
| ajo | may be you have 20G total in the compute, but 10G is to one PF, 10G is to other PF | 14:26 |
| ndipanov | do you remember anything about that? | 14:26 |
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| ndipanov | ajo, right but that's a problem of structuring the data | 14:27 |
| ajo | ndipanov, right, that's just internal to nova-compute | 14:27 |
| ndipanov | what I am getting at is that we have no way of letting nova-compute know any of this in the first place right now | 14:27 |
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| ajo | ndipanov, what do you mean?, letting it know the available BW ? | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | so what ndipanov, I see it as something our scheduler refactoring efforts are heading towards | 14:28 |
| ndipanov | yeah | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oops, s/what ndipanov/what ndipanov said/ | 14:28 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, well yes :) eventually | 14:28 |
| ajo | ok, so we may need to provide something to nova compute to discover the available bandwidth on the PFs, it's a matter of inspecting the link, or... otherwise get it given in config | 14:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ajo: once we add network segments, and I particularly interested in IP address availability, for example, but thats an asside | 14:29 |
| ajo | I suspect for virtio's it's going to be harder | 14:29 |
| ndipanov | ajo, but doesn't that get complicated with qos? | 14:29 |
| ajo | since neutron may need to publish that info back to nova somehow | 14:29 |
| ndipanov | ajo, currently there is no such an interface at all | 14:30 |
| ajo | ndipanov, I know | 14:30 |
| ajo | ndipanov, yes, then we put qos in place, and... | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, XenAPI has some basic BW reporting stuff, but I wouldn't say its a great pattern to copy for libvirt | 14:30 |
| ndipanov | there are several ways to think about it | 14:30 |
| ajo | ndipanov, nova may need to be aware of what the policy says | 14:30 |
| ajo | ndipanov, or neutron needs to publish the policy to nova in a way nova understands | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | that is more usage focused, rather than scheduling | 14:30 |
| ajo | or just the constrains out of the policy... | 14:30 |
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| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, but it affects it no? | 14:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: not the way we have things setup at least | 14:31 |
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| ndipanov | ajo, so in an ideal world - (global?) scheduler runs a neutron plugin that neutron agents publish data to, and none of this code lives in nova | 14:31 |
| ndipanov | we are far away from that world atm | 14:31 |
| ajo | ndipanov, ok, that sounds like a good ideal | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: +1 to both of those comments | 14:32 |
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| ajo | ndipanov, so neutron publishes a plugin, via stevedore or whatever... and the scheduler just takes it, and uses it | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | I always like to keep one eye to the future and one to the present, so its worth keeping that all in mind | 14:32 |
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| ndipanov | yes that would be ideal | 14:32 |
| ndipanov | but that is blocked by a lot of work that needs to be done to split out the scheduler | 14:33 |
| ajo | may be, it's better to tackle the SR-IOV thing first | 14:33 |
| ajo | as it's the simplest case | 14:33 |
| ajo | "simplest" | 14:33 |
| ndipanov | yes - sr-iov is simpler because it is already handled by nova-compute | 14:33 |
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| ajo | ndipanov, you may only need to be aware of what "min bandwidth constraint" do we have on a certain port | 14:33 |
| ndipanov | as in - the least amount of bandwith we can provide but we may be able to do more? | 14:34 |
| ajo | ndipanov, isn't sbauza working on those scheduler improvements? or was he? | 14:34 |
| ndipanov | ajo, he is but they are not easy with the current constraints nova has | 14:34 |
| ndipanov | and they are not easy in general | 14:34 |
| ajo | ndipanov: let me re-read your phrase | 14:35 |
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| ajo | ndipanov: correct | 14:35 |
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| ndipanov | so yeah that would be possible in some fashion for sriov ports but only for them without the scheduler work | 14:35 |
| ajo | said that, neutron may need to somehow know that other ports on the same PF are min: restricted, and cap a max: on the unrestricted ports <- moshele | 14:35 |
| ajo | Irenab_ ^ | 14:36 |
| ndipanov | there is one more way to do it | 14:36 |
| ndipanov | and johnthetubaguy may disagree | 14:36 |
| ajo | ndipanov: which one? | 14:36 |
| * ajo listens :) | 14:36 | |
| ndipanov | we had a notion of an extensible resource tracker, where you would be able to add your own resource plugins to nova | 14:36 |
| Irenab_ | In general i think neutron should be responsible for bookkeeping | 14:37 |
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| ajo | Irenab_: yes, that's why I like the point of a neutron plugin inside the nova scheduler :) | 14:37 |
| ndipanov | the idea was interesting but the implementation was lacking because the general code has very loose apis | 14:37 |
| ndipanov | but there is some work now to make those APIs stable and ... well useful | 14:37 |
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| Irenab_ | +1 on this ajo | 14:37 |
| ajo | ndipanov, can you link to those APIs? | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: I guess the summary of my position is: we need to make progress in the short term, if we agree the longer term plan, I am fine with a bit of compromise in the short term | 14:37 |
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| ajo | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 14:38 |
| ndipanov | well this is a compromise because we'd wait for jaypipes_ 's work | 14:38 |
| * ndipanov looks for the patches | 14:38 | |
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| ajo | thanks ndipanov | 14:38 |
| ndipanov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128992 | 14:39 |
| ndipanov | so this is the first patch | 14:39 |
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| ndipanov | this is still not ideal because nova has to own a lot of code that is basically a neutron implementation detail | 14:39 |
| ndipanov | but at least it will have a well defined boundary within nova | 14:39 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128992 | 14:40 |
| ndipanov | (I think) | 14:40 |
| ndipanov | johnthetubaguy, ^ | 14:40 |
| ndipanov | ? | 14:40 |
| ndipanov | does that sound not entirely false to you? | 14:40 |
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| ajo | Ok, I have 772 LOCs to read :) | 14:41 |
| Irenab_ | Same here 😊 | 14:41 |
| ajo | or at least ~300 not counting tests :) | 14:41 |
| ndipanov | ajo read the related BP instead maybe | 14:41 |
| * johnthetubaguy looks | 14:41 | |
| ajo | yeah, ndipanov , that's a better idea in fact | 14:42 |
| ajo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/resource-objects | 14:42 |
| Irenab_ | Ajo: what about overcommitment ? | 14:43 |
| ajo | Irenab_, that's what we were talking about, preventing it | 14:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ndipanov: yeah, thats stuff is close now, seems worth following that | 14:43 |
| ndipanov | ajo, so that would give you the place to do it in nova that nova folks won't hate | 14:43 |
| Irenab_ | I wonder if it always desired to be precented or should ve some provider policy | 14:44 |
| ndipanov | ajo, but than we would want to have a unified view for both virt and phys ports | 14:44 |
| ajo | ndipanov, yes, | 14:44 |
| ajo | that's the longer term plan | 14:44 |
| ajo | irenab_ not sure I follow | 14:45 |
| ajo | ndipanov: for virt ports, neutron needs to feed data | 14:45 |
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| Irenab_ | VM can be created and paused, other can be active | 14:45 |
| ajo | ndipanov, another extra option (on the compute low level side), could be letting neutron decide the exact pci address/based on PF capabilities | 14:45 |
| ajo | and there's where the new os-libvif thing could come in | 14:46 |
| * ajo looks for the link johnthetubaguy provided him this morning | 14:46 | |
| ajo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067783.html | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe, I see the vif lib first making it easier to add support for driver XYZ vif | 14:47 |
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| ajo | ndipanov, is it possible/reasonable to have some kind of rfe/spec for M in regards of the basic min-bandwidth guarantees/not overcommitment in nova? | 14:48 |
| ajo | johnthetubaguy ^ ? | 14:49 |
| ajo | talking of SR-IOV only | 14:49 |
| ajo | not asking for commitments, just trying to understand where do we stand | 14:50 |
| ndipanov | ajo, yes - I actually proposed a session for SR-IOV | 14:50 |
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| ajo | ah, true, that could be in the same session | 14:50 |
| ndipanov | for the summit | 14:50 |
| ndipanov | well maybe - this touches on several more things like scheduling | 14:50 |
| ajo | yeah, | 14:50 |
| ajo | may be needs a separate one, yikes, too bad I can't go this year :/ | 14:51 |
| ajo | ndipanov: I proposed a cross project session for neutron | 14:51 |
| ndipanov | and I am not too keen on sriov bandwith being a different thing than other bandwidth but such is life | 14:51 |
| ajo | regarding this | 14:51 |
| ndipanov | ajo, ok cool that makes sense | 14:51 |
| ajo | let me find the link | 14:52 |
| ajo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 14:52 |
| ajo | 4. | 14:53 |
| Irenab_ | ndipanov: i agree, it should be general approach to handle different vif types | 14:53 |
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| ajo | I just removed the "port defaults per tenant / RBAC" part from the etherpad | 14:54 |
| ajo | makes no sense after our discussion and the other proposed solution | 14:54 |
| ndipanov | yeah so it may make sense to be part of the vif lib | 14:54 |
| ajo | Irenab_: ping me back if you believe the agreement we made misses something important when you read the minutes | 14:54 |
| ndipanov | and then nova compute would just call it's reporting method when reporting it's own resources | 14:55 |
| Irenab_ | Ajo: will do | 14:55 |
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| ndipanov | but that seems like it can get arbitrarily complicated ... | 14:55 |
| ajo | ndipanov, yep | 14:55 |
| ndipanov | anyway - let's conclude - did you get some info to go on ajo ? | 14:55 |
| ajo | ndipanov, we either add realtime interactions, or reporting so the other side can act quickly | 14:56 |
| ajo | ndipanov: lots of information to digest | 14:56 |
| ndipanov | ok ping me or johnthetubaguy on -nova if something is unclear I guess | 14:56 |
| ajo | ndipanov, let us digest, and then let's organize more meetings | 14:56 |
| ndipanov | yay meetings! | 14:56 |
| ajo | ndipanov ':D let's minimize them | 14:57 |
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| ajo | ndipanov: if we had powerpoints this would be solved already.. (in the powerpoint) | 14:57 |
| ndipanov | I love powerpoints | 14:57 |
| ajo | s/powerpoint/presentations/g | 14:57 |
| Irenab_ | We can collaborate on etherpad | 14:57 |
| ndipanov | 0 bugs reported to date | 14:57 |
| ajo | ndipanov: lol | 14:57 |
| ajo | Irenab_, what was the etherpad link you proposed initially? | 14:58 |
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| ajo | and let's close the meeting, 2 minutes to go | 14:58 |
| ajo | I guess we can update that etherpad with the conclussions... | 14:58 |
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| Irenab_ | Will send you once get tocomputer | 14:58 |
| ajo | ok :) | 14:59 |
| ajo | thanks everybody for joining | 14:59 |
| Irenab_ | Impossible from phone .... | 14:59 |
| ajo | and providing feedback on the topic | 14:59 |
| ajo | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 14:59:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2015/neutron_qos.2015-09-16-14.02.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2015/neutron_qos.2015-09-16-14.02.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2015/neutron_qos.2015-09-16-14.02.log.html | 14:59 |
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| ajo | o/ | 14:59 |
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| Irenab_ | ajo: will ping you in 20 mins or so with link to etherpad | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 15:00:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | roll call | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| mroderus | o/ | 15:00 |
| witek | hi | 15:00 |
| fabiog | o/ | 15:00 |
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| rbak | o/ | 15:01 |
| ddieterly | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Here is the agenda that is listed: | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday September 16, 2015 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Update on Logging Plans | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Devstack | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.to merge/enable monasca client in Rally we need to have monasca devstack plugin first | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Grafana update | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Tempest tests update | 15:01 |
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| rhochmuth | please add items to the etherpad at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | #topic logging | 15:02 |
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| ddieterly | is it just us 3 here today? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | there are more | 15:02 |
| bmotz | ah, I'm here too | 15:02 |
| bmotz | o/ | 15:02 |
| tomasztrebski | hello guys :) | 15:02 |
| tsv | \0/ | 15:02 |
| ddieterly | hi | 15:02 |
| ddieterly | hands up if you're going to participate in the meeting, please | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:02 |
| mroderus | tomasztrebski: could you give a brief update on your Python port of the logging API? | 15:02 |
| fabiog | o. | 15:03 |
| fabiog | I think we have a quorum, | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | we do | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | tomas, the floor is yours | 15:03 |
| ddieterly | great | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i <3 irc | 15:03 |
| tomasztrebski | brief update ? hmm...well its on private github, so if anyone would like to take a peek, be my guest and as for the status | 15:04 |
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| mroderus | can you post the link? | 15:04 |
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| witek | here it is: https://github.com/kornicameister/monasca-log-api | 15:04 |
| tomasztrebski | logic is pretty much ready, including kafka publisher, resource to receive logs, some service like stuff to validate requests and so on | 15:04 |
| tomasztrebski | what I dont have is some unit tests (one major for kafka publisher), tox and general polishing | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | so, this is the python code | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | ? | 15:05 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, it is python code | 15:05 |
| tomasztrebski | similar to monasca-api you make | 15:05 |
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| tomasztrebski | as far as it goes for structure | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | there is also the monasca-log-api in stackforge at, https://github.com/stackforge/monasca-log-api | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | which is all have at the moment | 15:06 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, but it is java only | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | is it possible to add the python to the java repo? | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | then everything will be under gerrit review | 15:07 |
| witek | #https://github.com/kornicameister/monasca-log-api is a for of stackforge/monasca-log-api | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | I believe it is, https://github.com/stackforge/monasca-api/tree/master/monasca_api, you have something like it in monasca-api | 15:07 |
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| tsv | Tom, what is the pre-requisite for running the python logging-api ? is it standalone ? | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | correct, the monasca-api has both the java and python code | 15:07 |
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| tomasztrebski | so the same thing we have in monasca-log-api, however it is my own fork | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | is it fully functional? | 15:08 |
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| tomasztrebski | nothing particular I guess, but I don't know what it would behave on server, I didn't have a chance to check that out | 15:08 |
| tomasztrebski | pretty much, I am still working on some polishing and tests, but I managed to run it locally and post some data into the resource | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | cool, so it would be really good to get that merged back in the monasca-log-api repo so it is under gerrit review | 15:10 |
| tsv | +1 | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | as for what @tsv asked for, I can only say for dev mode so the only requirement you'd have is to create virtenv install requirements and run server.py | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | this is an area that gets some scrutiny with the TC | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | we had our tempest tests in a separate repo, not merged in with the main tempest repo, and had some feedback to merge that in | 15:10 |
| tsv | sounds good Tom, that sounds straight forward | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'm working on getting our tempest tests merged in | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | too | 15:11 |
| tomasztrebski | +1 | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | not to change the subject, just offering additional reasons why this could be important | 15:11 |
| mroderus | ok, so shall we merge before you want to have a look at it? | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so, we'll start taking a closer look at your work tomasz, in parallel with a merge | 15:12 |
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| mroderus | ok, makes sense | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | we'll look at things that are outside of gerritt too | 15:12 |
| ddieterly | rhochmuth: shouldn't all new dev be done in the stackforge repos? | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | yes, that is the case. | 15:13 |
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| tomasztrebski | meaning to say, gerrit will be skipped for monasca-log-api and any repo under stackforge ? am i getting it right ? | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | gerrit should already be on the monasca-log-api in stackforge | 15:14 |
| witek | no, we have to add it to stackforge/monasca-log-api | 15:14 |
| witek | yes, it is | 15:14 |
| tsv | and review it before it merges ? | 15:14 |
| ddieterly | tsv: well, of course ;-) | 15:15 |
| tsv | :) | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | ok, so i think we have a plan | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | will start to merge | 15:15 |
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| rhochmuth | to the monasca-log-api | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | also, others to start review the code, testing, ... | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | sound good? | 15:16 |
| ddieterly | yea, i think we need to start enforcing more testing at this point | 15:16 |
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| mroderus | tomasztrebski: are you ok with that? | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | ddieterly: yes, i'm going to give an update on tempest, but there are also unit tests too | 15:16 |
| tomasztrebski | basically yes, I just lost point about where python code should reside, should it be pushed to gerrit or left on github ? | 15:17 |
| witek | #action tomasztrebski pushes initial draft of python monasca-log-api implementation to gerrit next week | 15:17 |
| ddieterly | yes, gerrit | 15:18 |
| tomasztrebski | I like that :) | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | ok, next topic | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | #topic devstack | 15:19 |
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| ddieterly | ok, i'm setting up devstack on a vm right now | 15:19 |
| ddieterly | learning to spell 'devstack' basically | 15:19 |
| rbak | So we are working on getting monasca into devstack? | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | who added the devstack topic | 15:19 |
| rbak | That was me | 15:19 |
| fabiog | ddieterly: that is a good exercise :-) | 15:19 |
| ddieterly | i did this 1 year aga for the ceilometer interface, but forgot everything | 15:19 |
| ddieterly | rbak: yea | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: awesome!!! | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | do you need any help | 15:20 |
| rbak | Sorry, that was meant to be a question, not a statement. | 15:20 |
| ddieterly | rbak: yea, 'we' are working on getting monasca into devstack | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | ohhh, a question in the form of a sentence | 15:21 |
| rbak | Our QA team was trying to get Monasca into Rally, but was blocked by Monasca not being in devstack | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | yes, we are starting to do that | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | there are a lot of dependencies on devstack | 15:21 |
| rbak | Alright, I think that's all we really needed to hear. I'll pass along that it's work in progress. | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | so, ddieterly will be starting on this, and i'll be helping too | 15:22 |
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| ddieterly | we will be doing the python api and perister | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | hopefully, we'll know a little more for next weeks meeting | 15:22 |
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| ddieterly | not sure if that helps twc at this point | 15:22 |
| rbak | We were just wondering where that was | 15:23 |
| rbak | I know it's come up before | 15:23 |
| fabiog_ | ddieterly: do you want to send patches to the ceilosca installation for testing? | 15:23 |
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| ddieterly | i don't know at this point | 15:23 |
| fabiog_ | ddieterly: it could be a easy environment for validating that devstack with your changes works | 15:23 |
| ddieterly | not sure what that entails | 15:23 |
| tomasztrebski | btw, if I may interrupt, do you have any guidelines for python code or should it follow openstack guidelines only without any mods ? | 15:24 |
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| rhochmuth | tomasztrebski: we follow the openstack guidelines | 15:24 |
| ddieterly | tomasztrebski: openstack pep 8 standards | 15:24 |
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| rhochmuth | tomasztrebski: correct | 15:24 |
| ddieterly | no funny business ;-) | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | fabiog: as soon as we have monasca integrated in devstack, we'll look into adding ceilosca too | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | will probably need help | 15:25 |
| ddieterly | @fabiog_ i'll look into it | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | right now we're just getting up to speed on devstack and tempest | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | as soon as that is in reasonable shape we'll look at ceilosca too | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | ok, next topic? | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic grafana | 15:27 |
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| rbak | I just wanted to bring this up again since it barely made it in the last meeting | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:27 |
| rbak | I've started work on a monasca plugin for the latest grafana. | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | great! | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | how is it looking? | 15:28 |
| fabiog_ | +1 | 15:28 |
| rbak | It's not quite ready to share, but should be by next week I would think | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | awesome | 15:28 |
| rbak | And with all the repo talk I should ask where we want to put this. | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | i would like to see this merged in with the grafana repo | 15:28 |
| rbak | So are we alright with a private repo until that time? | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i think this is fine to have outside in a separate repo, just like we have the current repo | 15:29 |
| rbak | Alright, I'll plan on that | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | well, i think it woudl still be public, just not in gerrit review under openstack, since this is really another project | 15:29 |
| rbak | That's what I meant. | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | i would start with a public fork of the grafana repo, then hopefully we can merge back to the Grafana project | 15:30 |
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| fabiog_ | rhochmuth: I think in the future we should start engaging with the Grafana community and see if they allow us to be officially supported | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | yes, that was the plan all along | 15:30 |
| rbak | Also, in case anyone missed it, the gnocchi project is also trying to merge their own plugin | 15:30 |
| rbak | into grafana | 15:30 |
| mroderus | rbak: if it's only a plugin, why do we have to merge it? | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | correct, i saw a post on that in openstack operators this week | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | i think wherever all the grafana plugins are stored these days, is where we should merge our code too | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | in grafana 1.X, this was in the grafana project | 15:32 |
| rbak | mroderus: It's a datasource. Grafana isn't really easily plugable as far as I know | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: is it the similar to 1.X? | 15:32 |
| mroderus | ok, I understand | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | all the data sources are in the Grafana repo | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | ? | 15:32 |
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| rbak | In the respect that the datasources are in the grafana project, yes | 15:33 |
| rbak | There's a lot of other changes though | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, so i think we are ok doing the development outside of gerrit in this case, as this is another openstack project | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | as grafana is not an openstack project | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | so the proper landing spot is the grafana repo | 15:34 |
| rbak | Alright, I'll have it somewhere public and share it next week hopefully. | 15:34 |
| rbak | And we can try to get it merged as we move forward | 15:34 |
| fabiog_ | rbak: is based on 2.1.x? | 15:34 |
| rbak | yes | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | i know the founder of raintank which is where grafana is developed by | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | so, if we need help in adding to grafana then let me know and we can get a discussion arranged | 15:35 |
| rbak | sounds good | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, i think we are ready for next topic | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | #tempest | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | #topic tempest | 15:36 |
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| rhochmuth | this should be quick | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | i started on getting the tempest tests | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | a tester did the original development a while ago | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | but we never merged to openstack/tempest | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | so i'm getting that work going | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | i'm hoping this will get completed in a couple of weeks | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | or less | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | if anyone wants to help, please let me know | 15:38 |
| tomasztrebski | I think some tempests might me done by us as well, regarding monasca log api as far as I know | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | that woud be great | 15:38 |
| smialy | we based on yours https://github.com/hpcloud-mon/tempest adds some simple tests | 15:38 |
| tomasztrebski | ok, @smialy is here so he can share the info about that with you | 15:39 |
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| smialy | we (mean: fujitsu) prepare some simple test for testing our changes | 15:39 |
| smialy | https://github.com/FujitsuEnablingSoftwareTechnologyGmbH/tempest | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | and those are for the log api? | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll try and get this first set through, and then we can start to get the log tests integrated too | 15:41 |
| smialy | yes - we put some message in monasca-log-api and search it in elasticsearch | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | everything in tempest works via the api | 15:41 |
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| rhochmuth | so, if you are going around the api, i'm not sure that tempest would work with that | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | but tempests for log-api are using log-api as far as I know, isn't that right @smialy? | 15:42 |
| smialy | we use elasticsearch api :) | 15:42 |
| smialy | yes | 15:43 |
| mroderus | I think currently the API has only PUSH methods | 15:43 |
| mroderus | I mean POST, sorry | 15:43 |
| smialy | POST* | 15:43 |
| smialy | :) | 15:43 |
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| smialy | for this moment only single log with json format | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think the initial log tests would just focus on POST, if that is all we have | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | eventually, we'll be able to query via API too | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | and then can add additioanl tests | 15:44 |
| mroderus | eventually, yes | 15:44 |
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| smialy | log-api dont have endopont to search | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, are there more topics? | 15:45 |
| ddieterly | is brad k in the room? | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | Is there a performance update from TWC and the problem queries? | 15:45 |
| ddieterly | right | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | bmotz: how are you doing | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | you seem to be finding misc bugs in the python api | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | but, nothing too bad yet | 15:46 |
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| witek | there are a couple of pending pull requests from us on https://github.com/hpcloud-mon | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | witek: ok, will take a look | 15:47 |
| witek | could anyone take a look, please | 15:47 |
| ddieterly | which repo exactly? | 15:47 |
| tomasztrebski | monasca-keystone is the one I contributed to, but there are couple others | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | just cant recall which one :( | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | ansible-monasa-keystone? | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | so, is this all for ansible related changes? | 15:48 |
| witek | ddieterly: I send you a list | 15:49 |
| witek | rhochmuth: mainly | 15:49 |
| ddieterly | @tomasztrebski ping the core guys to push them along every now and then if you are not getting things looked at | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | yes ansible-monasca-keystone | 15:49 |
| tomasztrebski | sorry to ask, but could you give some names :) | 15:49 |
| * ddieterly roland | 15:49 | |
| rhochmuth | witek: ok, we'll take a look | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | ddieterly is core too | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, unless anyone has more topics, updates or questions, we might be ending early | 15:51 |
| tomasztrebski | while we on merges part, in monasca-log-api I made some changes that should be done in monasca-common (if we stick to 1:1 port to python, cause they are now in monasca-common) | 15:52 |
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| ddieterly | that's ok | 15:52 |
| tomasztrebski | to be precise I am refering to this https://github.com/kornicameister/monasca-log-api/blob/master/monasca_log_api/common/services.py | 15:52 |
| tomasztrebski | in java that is available here -> https://github.com/stackforge/monasca-common/tree/master/java/monasca-common-model/src/main/java/monasca/common/model | 15:53 |
| ddieterly | rhochmuth: how about avro? | 15:53 |
| ddieterly | we still thinking about doing something with that? | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | what is the services.py for? | 15:54 |
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| ddieterly | rhochmuth: ? | 15:55 |
| tomasztrebski | @rhochmuth, in monasca-common [java] there are classes: ComputeServiceInfo, VolumeServiceInfo and ObjectStoreServiceInfo...I know there is monasca-common in python now, but it does not have those classes yet, so my question is should it this code be moved there or left i monasca-log-api for now | 15:55 |
| tomasztrebski | services.py defines those classes | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | tomasztrebsk: i'll review off-line | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | in general, the code in monasca-common for the java and python is not 1:1 | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll need to get back to you on this | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | ok, just leave me comment somewhere @ github or where you think is the best place to put it | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | thx | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | that's all I wanted to say | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | :) | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | i think that is all we have time for today | 15:58 |
| witek | thank you Roland | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | yep, thx...it was good chat :) | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 16:00:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-09-16-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-09-16-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| fabiog_ | rhochmuth: please end the meeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-09-16-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizondrivers | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 20:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizondrivers)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' | 20:00 |
| robcresswell | Anyone about for the meeting? | 20:00 |
| mrunge | o/ | 20:00 |
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| bpokorny | o/ | 20:01 |
| jwy | hi | 20:01 |
| ducttape_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| lhcheng | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | David is away atm, so have stolen chair. bpokorny, just a few announcements to make then will pass on to you. | 20:01 |
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| bpokorny | Sounds good | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HorizonDrivers | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | Agenda, not much on it | 20:02 |
| tsufiev | O/ | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | First thing is: The etherpad is up for Mitaka Summit Session Topics | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-summit | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | Note the bits at the top too, so we don't end up with a huge mess. | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Second notice is: rel mgmt wants us to aim for RC1 at the end of this week I believe. | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | Cores really need to be picking up bugs. We have 3/4 bps and <20 bugs, so get on with it :p | 20:04 |
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| mrunge | ah yes, david mentioned earlier, bugs <= medium prio might not make it into rc1 | 20:05 |
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| robcresswell | Yes, I've been removing a few already. | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | The translations appear to be fixed again now. | 20:06 |
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| mrunge | \o/ | 20:06 |
| mrunge | but selenium is broken again? | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | But we still have several High bugs that really need reviews. A lot are not too complex. | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | Yes, it broke late last week again I think | 20:06 |
| mrunge | darn | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Integration is still up though I *think*. tsufiev may have more to say on the matter. | 20:07 |
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| tsufiev | robcresswell: no news = good news | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Excellent. | 20:07 |
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| robcresswell | That's all from me. Expect pings about bugs/bps, sorry if I get annoying. | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | bpokorny, your turn :) | 20:08 |
| bpokorny | Thanks! | 20:08 |
| mrunge | robcresswell, you're doing fine :) | 20:08 |
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| mrunge | keep pinging! | 20:08 |
| bpokorny | Just wanted to publicize this one for the M release: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/nova-server-groups | 20:09 |
| bpokorny | Ability to manage server groups via Horizon. | 20:09 |
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| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/nova-server-groups | 20:09 |
| lhcheng | bpokorny: is that different as service groups? | 20:09 |
| tsufiev | mrunge: iirc selenium fix is blocked by DOA issue | 20:09 |
| bpokorny | I put a review out already for setting the server groups. | 20:09 |
| bpokorny | lhcheng: I think so... I'll have to look into what service groups are. | 20:10 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, by which doa issue? | 20:10 |
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| bpokorny | But server groups are managed on the cli with the "nova server-group-XXXX" commands. | 20:10 |
| tsufiev | mrunge: the one Richard was trying to fix with lhcheng, but then it appeared that we need to rename DOA ). Sorry, I'm from tablet, difficult to paste links | 20:11 |
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| robcresswell | BP looks solid IMO. | 20:11 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, ok, thanks. I'll look that up or ask you tomorrow | 20:12 |
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| lhcheng | bpokorny: we're using the term service group in-house, sounds like the same actually :) it allows a user to set a scheduler hint | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Has code, and is supported elsewhere. | 20:12 |
| lhcheng | bpokorny: that's going to be useful for us, thanks | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | SO we aren't waiting on service updates :D | 20:12 |
| bpokorny | lhcheng: Yep, that's what's needed. | 20:12 |
| ducttape_ | nova service list (etc) is usually the service status. more confusion | 20:12 |
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| bpokorny | Scheduler hints | 20:12 |
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| bpokorny | So as a next step, I'll ping David later about approval for the bp for the M release. | 20:13 |
| bpokorny | And that's all I had on that one :) | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | We can just vote now | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | There should be several cores here | 20:14 |
| lhcheng | bpokorny: cool | 20:14 |
| lhcheng | + for me | 20:14 |
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| bpokorny | Ah, sounds good. | 20:14 |
| tqtran | + for me as well | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | Yeah I think it looks good. Approved. We dont have an M tag yet, so will mark for 'next' | 20:14 |
| TravT | bpokorny: is this just adding hints? | 20:14 |
| bpokorny | The first part is being able to boot a VM with hints. | 20:15 |
| bpokorny | But as a next step, we'll also probably want the ability to create/edit/delete server groups. | 20:15 |
| ducttape_ | bpokorny - there are some scheduler hints available to admins - like place the vm on a specific host | 20:16 |
| ducttape_ | we'd need to check the auth reqmts on some of those options, perhaps ? | 20:16 |
| lhcheng | ducttape_: aggregates + flavor metadata (I think) | 20:16 |
| TravT | this type of information you can get from the metadata catalog in glance. | 20:17 |
| TravT | you can create metadata items and then set their visibility | 20:18 |
| lhcheng | the hints available to user should be configurable, depending how the deployer wants their scheduler to work | 20:18 |
| TravT | and then only show to users based on their ability to see them | 20:18 |
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| TravT | that is what glance metadata catalog gives you | 20:18 |
| ducttape_ | bpokorny - your life is getting complex ^ ;) | 20:18 |
| TravT | we already use it in horizon. | 20:19 |
| bpokorny | ducttape_: Heh - always how it goes :) | 20:19 |
| ducttape_ | but it seems like this is interesting work / supported by most all | 20:19 |
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| TravT | it isn't too hard... | 20:19 |
| TravT | there is an api for it. | 20:19 |
| bpokorny | As far as I've seen, there's not a way to specify server groups currently via Horizon. | 20:20 |
| ducttape_ | boot from vol TravT, just to throw a monkey wrench at you | 20:20 |
| mrunge | bpokorny, yes, that's right | 20:20 |
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| ducttape_ | right now you'd have to use live migration to simulate something close to that | 20:21 |
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| robcresswell | Has the dust settled? | 20:24 |
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| bpokorny | I think so? :) | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | If there are still people around, I'd like to discuss the remaining RC1 BPs and see if people have time to review them. | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | #info Nova Server Groups blueprint approved | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | lhcheng: Were you still intending to look over https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/database-clustering-support ? | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | I know I have it on my list. It's a big bp, so would be good to get 2 core reviews if possible. | 20:27 |
| lhcheng | ugh, I just did a first pass on the code. have to look at it again | 20:27 |
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| lhcheng | robcresswell: yeah, its a big chunk of code | 20:28 |
| lhcheng | will try to look at it tomorrow | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | lhcheng: Yup. Thanks. I will do the same. | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | There is also a sahara bp | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/unified-job-interface-map-ui | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | It's had a number of reviews from Horizon folk too in the last patch set. | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | I don't suppose anyone will volunteer to review? | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | tqtran, clu_ *hint hint* | 20:30 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: I'm still against embedding html into js, but an author didn't respond | 20:31 |
| mrunge | then it's easy: -1 | 20:32 |
| mrunge | I can do that tsufiev :P | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: I had a discussion with them on IRC. IMO with Sahara, since it is likely to move out soon, it isn't really a blocker. | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | As long as it's not insanity, I'm inclinced to be lenient with it. | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | But I'm not sure what davids stance is on that | 20:32 |
| tsufiev | Heh. Then I don't see much sense in reviewing it at all | 20:32 |
| tsufiev | If it doesn't beak horizon, it's fine | 20:33 |
| mrunge | We have to keep that code alive for quite a time | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | Well, difference between "where does a one-time-usage-template live" and "this code is totally insane" | 20:33 |
| mrunge | cough | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | As I understood, they are planning on moving it out in M, and contrib/ was the first stage to that. | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | But not sure on absolute plans. | 20:33 |
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| tsufiev | robcresswell: insanity creeps in with small steps ;) | 20:34 |
| mrunge | I mean, embedding js in html is not the worst thing in sahara dashboard | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Haha. If you feel strongly, -1 the patch set. | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | I'll look at it after the databases code. | 20:35 |
| tsufiev | mrunge: js inside html is okay, reverse is not IMO | 20:35 |
| mrunge | ouch :x | 20:35 |
| tsufiev | Okay, i'll say my word and -1 it | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | Sure thing | 20:37 |
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| robcresswell | Right I think that is all on the agenda. Does anyone else have any other blueprints or points they'd like to raise (or argue about?) | 20:37 |
| TravT | yeah | 20:37 |
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| TravT | re: angularizing the tables. | 20:38 |
| TravT | i think there are a couple bug fixes we should still do on master with what is there. | 20:38 |
| TravT | but otherwise: | 20:38 |
| TravT | https://openstack.nimeyo.com/58582/openstack-dev-horizon-patterns-for-angular-panels | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | Yep, I've yet to reply to this | 20:39 |
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| robcresswell | TravT: Which bugs? Tag them for rc1 please | 20:39 |
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| robcresswell | TravT: They may not make it, but still be good to get visibility. | 20:40 |
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| TravT | here's one. | 20:40 |
| mrunge | yes, robcresswell +1 | 20:40 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217295/ | 20:40 |
| TravT | it is under the larger bp | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: btw, if an rc1 bug has 2 not tagged dependency bugs/commits, should I tag them as well? | 20:40 |
| mrunge | TravT, is that a bug or a feature? | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Wow, what a question. I would say yes, tag them, but don't expect them to get in or not. | 20:41 |
| mrunge | since we're that late, I'd try to fix bugs and not to introduce new features | 20:42 |
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| TravT | probably could change to a bug and fix the usage of '-' in numerous other spots in angular horizon. | 20:42 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: it's about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215196/ | 20:42 |
| mrunge | sounds more like it's fixing a bug? | 20:42 |
| TravT | it is a bug | 20:43 |
| robcresswell | TravT: Probably better to tag as a bug, rather than feature work | 20:43 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: looking... | 20:43 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Yep, tag all as RC1, we'll see where we get to | 20:44 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: okay | 20:44 |
| TravT | yeah, i could do that... could then track down other places we need to replace '-' with using the filter. | 20:44 |
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| robcresswell | tsufiev: As I said, I'm being pretty sharp about the bug list, so it may be removed again shortly, but best to draw attention to it first so its an educated decision. | 20:45 |
| mrunge | uhm, bugs still can be fixed after rc1 release | 20:47 |
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| mrunge | but they will need backports from mitaka to liberty branch then | 20:47 |
| robcresswell | Ha, yeah ofc | 20:47 |
| mrunge | just as a reminder | 20:47 |
| mrunge | that's not that easy for features | 20:47 |
| robcresswell | We may also have an RC2 depending. I just meant they may get removed from rc1 etc. | 20:47 |
| TravT | i'm working on a searchlight panel which has uncovered some bugs in magic search. I might submit them up too. kfox1111 also experienced one of them on his app catalog plugin | 20:47 |
| mrunge | there are quite a few bugs currently | 20:48 |
| robcresswell | The remaining BPs should get in IMO, if people will review. I've +2'd Curvature, merged shelving, looking into dbs/ sahara | 20:48 |
| robcresswell | mrunge: Indeed, but it is shrinking. I've got it down to about half of Monday, obsoleted a few, reviewed/ merged a lot :p | 20:49 |
| mrunge | robcresswell, pain points are still in | 20:49 |
| robcresswell | mrunge: pain points? | 20:49 |
| mrunge | uhm xss | 20:50 |
| mrunge | the re-login bug | 20:50 |
| mrunge | etc. just walk through the list of high prio bugs in horizon | 20:50 |
| mrunge | not to mention doa bugs | 20:50 |
| mrunge | which currently fall out of the view, because it's a different project | 20:51 |
| robcresswell | Yep. I believe the re-login bug had a fix out | 20:51 |
| mrunge | nope | 20:51 |
| mrunge | there's a proposal | 20:51 |
| mrunge | but it's not merged | 20:51 |
| robcresswell | Ah, my mistake | 20:51 |
| mrunge | and tsufiev said, it breaks project switching | 20:52 |
| robcresswell | :( | 20:52 |
| tsufiev | mrunge: did I? | 20:52 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, I believe so | 20:52 |
| robcresswell | Well, we've got a busy couple of days ahead then :) | 20:54 |
| mrunge | yes! | 20:54 |
| tsufiev | Okay, let's first fix DOA job that's failing, and then re-login bug and see what's next... | 20:54 |
| robcresswell | Yes. Please focus reviews on those bugs targeted for RC1, and mention any others that may be blockers. | 20:55 |
| robcresswell | Curvature needs another core review, me and lhcheng will target dbs, and then sahara I'll look at afterwards, see if I can drag someone else in too. | 20:56 |
| robcresswell | That covers the FFEs I think, unless angular images is looking ready to go live. | 20:56 |
| TravT | robcresswell: there is good progress on them, but I don't think they'll be ready. | 20:58 |
| robcresswell | TravT: h'okay. I'm glad development was kept open though. | 20:58 |
| TravT | yeah, we've really made some improvements in the last few weeks and found some additional ways to reduce code redundancy | 20:59 |
| robcresswell | Good stuff. I'm looking forward to settling on patterns so I can update my networks panel and push it. | 20:59 |
| robcresswell | Anyway, thats the hour | 21:00 |
| robcresswell | Thanks everyone! | 21:00 |
| mrunge | thanks robcresswell | 21:00 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| tsufiev | Thanks and bye! | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 21:00:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-09-16-20.00.html | 21:00 |
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| bpokorny | Thanks all! | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-09-16-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-09-16-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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| TravT | thanks robcresswell | 21:00 |
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| elmiko | anyone around for api-wg meeting? | 23:59 |
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