elmiko | #startmeeting api wg | 00:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 17 00:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 00:00 |
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elmiko | last call for api wg meeting, speak now or wait till next week ;) | 00:04 |
elmiko | #endmeeting | 00:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 00:05 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 00:05:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:05 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-17-00.00.html | 00:05 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-17-00.00.txt | 00:05 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-17-00.00.log.html | 00:05 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate is currently stuck, failing grenade upgrade tests due the release of oslo.utils 1.4.1 for Juno. | 08:01 | |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate back to normal, thanks to the backlisting of the problematic version | 10:15 | |
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carl_baldwin | hi | 15:00 |
vikram | hi | 15:00 |
pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
yamamoto | hi | 15:00 |
haleyb | aloha | 15:00 |
carl_baldwin | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
regXboi | carl_baldwin: I made it :) | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 17 15:00:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
mlavalle | ahoy | 15:00 |
carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements | 15:00 |
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carl_baldwin | The RC period starts next week. | 15:01 |
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carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 15:01 |
neiljerram | o/ | 15:01 |
carl_baldwin | We’ve got three candidates for PTL | 15:01 |
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carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/election+file:%255Ecandidates/mitaka/Neutron/.*,n,z | 15:02 |
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Swami | hi | 15:02 |
carl_baldwin | Your vote is important. The last election for Neutron was won by one vote if I recall correctly. ;) | 15:02 |
neiljerram | It's good of those people to stand. | 15:02 |
carl_baldwin | +1 | 15:03 |
regXboi | more should feel free :) | 15:03 |
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carl_baldwin | Any other announcements? | 15:03 |
carl_baldwin | regXboi: I think nominations are now closed. | 15:03 |
regXboi | carl_baldwin: that was more of a statement for next time | 15:04 |
carl_baldwin | I see | 15:04 |
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carl_baldwin | Let’s move on to bugs. | 15:04 |
carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 15:05 |
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mlavalle | hi | 15:05 |
carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda | 15:05 |
carl_baldwin | mlavalle: hi | 15:05 |
mlavalle | last week we were tracking 2 critical bugs | 15:05 |
carl_baldwin | Looks like they’re both doing well. | 15:05 |
mlavalle | t=yeah, I helped to diagnose one of them and armax proposed a fix over the weekend | 15:06 |
mlavalle | no events since then | 15:06 |
carl_baldwin | Good work. | 15:06 |
mlavalle | the other one had a fix by armax on labor day | 15:06 |
mlavalle | no events since then | 15:06 |
mlavalle | so thank you very much to armax | 15:06 |
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mlavalle | I kept 2 high importance bugs in the agenda | 15:07 |
armax | mlavalle: thank you guys for staying on top of things | 15:07 |
carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Any idea where we’re at with HA/DVR? | 15:07 |
mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365473 | 15:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte) | 15:07 |
mlavalle | Adolfo had been actively pushing fixes to this | 15:08 |
mlavalle | seems to be making progress, although it seems difficult to fix | 15:08 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: adolfo mentioned that was rebasing his patch yesterday | 15:08 |
mlavalle | there are 2 fixes, one for the server and one for the agent | 15:08 |
amuller | sadly jschwarz is away on PTO | 15:08 |
amuller | so he won't be able to help there any more for the upcoming week or two | 15:08 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: There was some functional test that broke because of a recent change in upstream and adolfo is working on it. | 15:09 |
mlavalle | last time adolfo pushed code was the end of last week | 15:09 |
mlavalle | so i say let's give adolfo time to keep maming progress | 15:09 |
carl_baldwin | amuller: Any idea where things stood when jshwarz left? | 15:09 |
Swami | mlavalle: last week he was on a training the whole weem. | 15:09 |
amuller | not great... | 15:09 |
amuller | I asked John to create an etherpad for it | 15:10 |
amuller | which is linked from the bug report | 15:10 |
amuller | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DVR_HA_Routers | 15:10 |
carl_baldwin | amuller: Thanks for calling attention to that. | 15:11 |
Swami | amuller: thanks for the link, I will communicate to adolfo. | 15:11 |
carl_baldwin | For bug #1494351, pavel has a fix up marked WIP. | 15:12 |
openstack | bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1494351 - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:12 |
carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223123/ | 15:12 |
mlavalle | correct | 15:12 |
regXboi | carl_baldwin, mlavalle: I don't have anything to add to the list this week - the backlog is now down to 14 bugs without fix commits for RC1 :) | 15:12 |
mlavalle | pavel_bondar: thanks for that progress! | 15:13 |
regXboi | so I will go through these and pull up ones for next week that could use some review love | 15:13 |
carl_baldwin | regXboi: That is great progress. | 15:13 |
regXboi | carl_baldwin: thanks to all the folks pitching in! | 15:13 |
pavel_bondar | I need to rework current fix to use compare-and-swap logic to make it work with Galera, so it may take time | 15:13 |
carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Thanks. | 15:14 |
mlavalle | regXboi: I kept https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1450982 | 15:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1450982 in neutron "DVR: Moving FloatingIP between hosts can lead to Floating Agent Gateway Port not being deleted" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:14 |
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mlavalle | in the agenda | 15:14 |
regXboi | mlavalle: I believe all of the patches for that have merged? | 15:14 |
mlavalle | but I think we all the fixes are in, so if that's ok with you, i'll remove it | 15:14 |
Swami | mlavalle: the above bug was fixed and merged. | 15:15 |
regXboi | Swami: thanks, beat me to asking the question :) | 15:15 |
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mlavalle | regXboi, Swami: ok, i'll remove it from tracking | 15:15 |
Swami | mlavalle: thanks | 15:15 |
carl_baldwin | Any other bugs to mention? | 15:15 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: there was another bug that I filed yesterday. | 15:16 |
mlavalle | finally there are medium importance bugs that need prunning.... i'll work on it this week | 15:16 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: I have a patch for it | 15:16 |
carl_baldwin | Swami: That’s right, do you have a link for it? | 15:16 |
Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224250/ | 15:16 |
carl_baldwin | Swami: thanks | 15:17 |
mlavalle | Swami: I'll track it for next week | 15:17 |
Swami | mlavalle: thanks | 15:17 |
carl_baldwin | #topic Routed network segments | 15:17 |
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carl_baldwin | Work is continuing on this. I will have a spec up by tomorrow. | 15:18 |
neiljerram | Looking forward to that! | 15:18 |
tidwellr | then the party really starts ;0 | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | :) | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | We should have a lot more to discuss next week. | 15:19 |
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carl_baldwin | #topic DVR | 15:20 |
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Swami | carl_baldwin: hi | 15:20 |
carl_baldwin | DVR came up in a big way at the QA sprint this week. regXboi, sc68cal, dougwig, and I represented Neutron there. | 15:20 |
sc68cal | :) | 15:20 |
regXboi | :) :) | 15:20 |
mlavalle | nice representation | 15:20 |
regXboi | (oh my) | 15:20 |
mlavalle | we sent the big guns! | 15:21 |
carl_baldwin | What kicked of the discussion was the failure rate of the DVR job. | 15:21 |
carl_baldwin | #link http://goo.gl/j5UkwT | 15:21 |
regXboi | sc68cal - do you have link to the email you sent to the mailing list as well? | 15:21 |
sc68cal | regXboi: sure | 15:21 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: but that was a spike because of bug introduced on a patch. | 15:22 |
sc68cal | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074433.html | 15:22 |
carl_baldwin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074445.html | 15:22 |
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carl_baldwin | Swami: It wasn’t the spike in the multi-node job that sparked the discussion. | 15:22 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: The main think that we need to solve in DVR is consistency | 15:22 |
carl_baldwin | It was the gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr job that sparked the discussion. | 15:23 |
regXboi | there are *lots* of things to solve in DVR | 15:23 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: we have always seen a 10-12% deviation in the DVR job and all those are related to session timed out. | 15:23 |
carl_baldwin | For those of us who have looked at this graph for a long time now, we know that this job consistently doubles the failure rate of the gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full job. | 15:23 |
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regXboi | carl_baldwin: ack and #sadpanda | 15:24 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: right now the only difference in floating ip is basically we do have two namespaces for the packets to travel through and we need to figure out a way to debug where it is exactly failing. | 15:24 |
carl_baldwin | Swami: Right, and we need to get to the bottom of it. | 15:25 |
mlavalle | Swami: would it be a metter of training people so we have more eyes to debug issues? | 15:25 |
mlavalle | matter^^^ | 15:25 |
Swami | mlavalle: sure I can help anyone if they are interested in poking around. | 15:25 |
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mlavalle | Swami: if that helps, we can send an invitation to the ML asking for volunteers.... | 15:26 |
Swami | mlavalle:Some of tempest test does not wait for the floatingip status. | 15:26 |
sc68cal | mlavalle: think my post to the ML may cover the ask for volunteers | 15:27 |
regXboi | Swami: that is because some of the scenario tests use nova apis for creating floating IPs and they *can't* check for status | 15:27 |
Swami | mlavalle: long time back I tried to add a patch to check for status and then do an ssh. But that patch got -1 since people said that some of the nova network tests does not having floatingip status. | 15:27 |
Swami | regXboi: you are right, you beat me again. | 15:27 |
mlavalle | sc68cal: yeah! you covered that base | 15:27 |
regXboi | Swami: I think we need to file a bug against the nova legacy apis that if they are going to return 201 then internally they have to check status | 15:28 |
Swami | regXboi: mlavalle: so my question is how do we tackle this problem. | 15:28 |
regXboi | ^^^^ | 15:28 |
haleyb | one thing that I'm guilty of myself is always doing a 'recheck' when that job failed, so we were letting possible race conditions survive. I've seen some interesting errors this past week that I'm filing bugs for | 15:28 |
carl_baldwin | regXboi and haleyb have gratiously agreed to devote some of their time to this. I’d like for them to lead the effort to root cause this. | 15:28 |
Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:28 |
regXboi | I talked to mtreinish about this very issue during the sprint and his suggestion was to file the bug on nova | 15:29 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: I will also help them to root cause the issue. | 15:29 |
regXboi | because we don't have to change the API behavior, we need to change what it does before the API behavior | 15:29 |
carl_baldwin | Swami: Much appreciated, thanks. | 15:29 |
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haleyb | Swami: sometimes it's ovs, or some other thing like "no router namespace", either way investigating more is a good thing | 15:30 |
Swami | regXboi: haleyb: I can sync up with you guys and keep me in the loop. | 15:30 |
carl_baldwin | I’ll leave it to regXboi and haleyb to decide what the best way to coordinate and communicate is. | 15:30 |
Swami | haleyb: yes I agree. | 15:31 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: so what was the decision taken in the qa meeting. | 15:31 |
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Swami | carl_baldwin: should dvr completely line up with CVR before we re-enable the voting. | 15:32 |
regXboi | I would say we should be *much* closer than we are now, but people should be prepared for patches to be -1'd because the n-v dvr job failed | 15:32 |
carl_baldwin | Swami: There will always be instantaneous differences in the failure rates. But, averaging over a period of recent history should show that they’re about the same. | 15:33 |
Swami | regXboi: haleyb: carl_baldwin: One think we should also keep in mind is look at the non-voting dvr job before pushing in any patch that would save my life. | 15:33 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: got it. thanks. | 15:34 |
haleyb | Swami: i hope you're not putting neutron on a defibrillator :) | 15:34 |
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carl_baldwin | We should mention this in the neutron meeting as a reminder to core reviewers to pay attention to oven the non-voting jobs. | 15:34 |
carl_baldwin | s/oven/even/ | 15:35 |
regXboi | carl_baldwin: +1 | 15:35 |
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mlavalle | I think also, that under further notice, we should keep DVR as an explicit agenda topic during this weekly meeting | 15:35 |
mtreinish | carl_baldwin: one option is to make it voting, but on neutron patches only | 15:35 |
mtreinish | but then y'all have to suffer the pain of a 25% fail rate | 15:35 |
haleyb | carl_baldwin: armando did just send out a review about being 'effective', seems like an addition there | 15:35 |
Swami | mlavalle: sure I will try to join the meeting every week. I had to drop of my kids during this time, so I have not joined for a while. But I will make alternate arrangements. | 15:36 |
carl_baldwin | mtreinish: We almost went that way but decided against it. | 15:36 |
carl_baldwin | haleyb: link? | 15:36 |
regXboi | mtreinish: greetings! | 15:36 |
haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224419/ | 15:36 |
haleyb | i haven't even read it yet myself | 15:37 |
mlavalle | Swami: thanks! | 15:37 |
mtreinish | carl_baldwin: ok sure | 15:38 |
carl_baldwin | mtreinish: Thanks. | 15:38 |
carl_baldwin | I feel like we’re about at the end of this topic, anything else? | 15:39 |
regXboi | carl_baldwin: not this week - there is more, but the prep work isn't done yet and that's on me | 15:39 |
Swami | carl_baldwin: thanks, I don't have anything . | 15:39 |
carl_baldwin | Thanks, all. | 15:40 |
carl_baldwin | #topic BGP dynamic routing | 15:40 |
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tidwellr | hi | 15:40 |
carl_baldwin | tidwellr: vikram: hi | 15:40 |
vikram | hi | 15:40 |
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vikram | sorry, i don't have much update from my end as I was on vacation.. | 15:41 |
vikram | thanks to tidewellr for taking care of things | 15:41 |
vikram | thanks to tidwellr for taking care of things | 15:41 |
tidwellr | good progress in the last week, we've worked out some more kinks Neutron is now peering and advertising routes with other routers | 15:41 |
vikram | Oh My God!!! We did it;) | 15:42 |
carl_baldwin | That sounds like great progress. | 15:42 |
mlavalle | tidwellr: ++ | 15:42 |
tidwellr | attention now turns to getting the agent to report status of peering sessions and getting Neutron push the correct routes through the dr_agent | 15:43 |
carl_baldwin | Anything to discuss here? | 15:44 |
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tidwellr | don't need any time here | 15:44 |
carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Thanks. | 15:44 |
vikram | great work tidwellr | 15:45 |
carl_baldwin | #topic DNS | 15:45 |
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carl_baldwin | mlavalle: hi | 15:45 |
mlavalle | hi again | 15:45 |
mlavalle | progress was a little slower this week, diagnosing bugs and taking a few days off (daughter got engaged in Wasjington DC) | 15:45 |
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mlavalle | however, I managed to crank some code in the airplanes, while wife was sleepong | 15:46 |
mlavalle | sleeping^^^^ | 15:46 |
carl_baldwin | mlavalle: congrats to daughter! | 15:46 |
mlavalle | I addressed carl_baldwin 's comments in his last review | 15:46 |
mlavalle | he pointed correctly that I was forgetting PTR records | 15:47 |
mlavalle | so I added code for that and also the allembic migration script | 15:47 |
mlavalle | pushed PS8 yesterday, which I am going to debug today in my sandbox | 15:48 |
carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ | 15:48 |
johnbelamaric | mlavalle: congrats. you should have told me you were here in town :) | 15:48 |
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mlavalle | also yesterday had a conversation with Kiall (designate PTL) and mestery about adding neutron + designate to the gate | 15:49 |
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mlavalle | the decision was to do it experimentally during the rest of Liberty and aim to merge early i M | 15:49 |
mlavalle | expect PS( later today, with the results of my debugging session | 15:50 |
mlavalle | PS9^^^ | 15:50 |
mlavalle | and at that point I will ask more reviews, also from the Designate team | 15:50 |
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mlavalle | I want them to see the way I am handling the PTR records | 15:51 |
carl_baldwin | mlavalle: +1. Encouraging reviewers. | 15:51 |
mlavalle | that's it for this week | 15:51 |
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carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thank you. | 15:51 |
carl_baldwin | #topic Open Discussion | 15:51 |
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carl_baldwin | Any other topics needing attention this week? | 15:51 |
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carl_baldwin | Thanks, all! | 15:53 |
carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 15:53:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
yamamoto | bye | 15:53 |
neiljerram | bye! | 15:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-09-17-15.00.html | 15:54 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-09-17-15.00.txt | 15:54 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-09-17-15.00.log.html | 15:54 |
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regXboi | bye all | 15:54 |
Swami | bye | 15:54 |
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vikram | bye | 15:57 |
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vnod | #startmeeting cloudpulse | 16:10 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 17 16:10:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vnod. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:10 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:10 |
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vnod | hello | 16:10 |
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vnod | It looks like both Auktavian and Anand can't make it today | 16:30 |
vnod | #endmeeting | 16:30 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 16:30:38 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:30 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cloudpulse/2015/cloudpulse.2015-09-17-16.10.html | 16:30 |
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docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 17 17:00:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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docaedo | #topic rollcall | 17:00 |
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kfox1111 | o/ | 17:01 |
docaedo | o/ | 17:01 |
kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
docaedo | the usual suspects :) | 17:01 |
pkoros | o/ | 17:01 |
docaedo | #topic Status updates (docaedo) | 17:02 |
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pkoros | first timer! | 17:02 |
docaedo | pkoros: welcome! | 17:02 |
kfox1111 | welcome. :) | 17:02 |
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docaedo | one update, looks like I'm the official PTL now, which means .. not too much :) don't expect things to change too much | 17:03 |
kfox1111 | yay! :) | 17:03 |
docaedo | but I will be cleaning up the group membership, which I'll announce on the ML. We have a bunch of cores that haven't touched the app catalog in many months | 17:03 |
docaedo | also need to get kfox1111 and myself added to release | 17:04 |
docaedo | and if kzaitsev_mb is not a core, he should be (again, will be handled on the mailing list for proper exposure | 17:04 |
kzaitsev_mb | I believe I'm not =) would be honored ) | 17:04 |
kfox1111 | status update for the horizon plugin. Have a prototype package for rdo working. in the process, found a bug. apps.openstack.org needs https support if the horizon is https. | 17:04 |
kfox1111 | docaedo: +1 for kzaitsev_mb | 17:05 |
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docaedo | kfox1111: yep, thanks for logging a bug, I'll get that sorted out in the next few days | 17:05 |
docaedo | #action docaedo to get SSL cert for app catalog website | 17:05 |
kfox1111 | np. I also have to fix the bug on the plugin side so that it just requests the same protocol as its running, rather then just http:// | 17:06 |
docaedo | good idea | 17:06 |
docaedo | the only other update of sorts I have is that I'm planning to work on adding a few heat templates in the next few days | 17:06 |
docaedo | anyone else with status updates before we move on? | 17:07 |
docaedo | #topic Discuss "new site plans" etherpad (docaedo) | 17:07 |
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docaedo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-v2-backend | 17:07 |
kfox1111 | oh. on that topic, we probably need another repo. an app-catalog-common or something like that. | 17:08 |
docaedo | After spending some time this week playing with flask and looking through it, seems like that's going to be the best choice for a framework. | 17:08 |
kfox1111 | so we can put javascript/images that can be shared between apps-catalog-ui and apps.openstack.org | 17:08 |
docaedo | It's being used by keystone and a few other projects as well | 17:08 |
docaedo | kfox1111: what if we just put the shared bits in the app-catalog repo? Trying to make sure we don't start making things too complicated here :) | 17:09 |
kfox1111 | k. we'll use flask, and reevaluate only if it just doesn't work well. since so many projects are using it, I wouldn't expect it to be a problem. | 17:09 |
kzaitsev_mb | +1 for flask, should be pretty straightforward ) | 17:10 |
kfox1111 | I can see app-catalog storing a lot of server related bits in it, that shouldn't be installed if all your doing is install the horizon plugin. | 17:10 |
docaedo | ah yeah, that makes sense | 17:11 |
kfox1111 | I think app-catalog-common will end up being just some of the angular js files and some icons. Then the server/plugin will import it and add specific to that package's js/images to it. | 17:12 |
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kfox1111 | should be a very light repo. | 17:12 |
docaedo | sounds like that would work... | 17:13 |
kfox1111 | could you put in the request for it? | 17:14 |
docaedo | I think the next step on this topic will be to make a version of the app catalog basically as-is, except served by flask (with the JSON bit built and served at the same API endpoint, except this time built dynamically by flask) | 17:15 |
docaedo | and yes, I can put in a request for the repo | 17:15 |
kfox1111 | +1 | 17:15 |
docaedo | #action docaedo to request a new repo for common elements shared between app-catalog and ui | 17:15 |
docaedo | so .. volunteers for that flask thing? Or shall I take it? | 17:15 |
kfox1111 | One of the first features I'd like to see after that is something that keeps track of when entries were commited. | 17:16 |
kfox1111 | the flask endpoint can join that date in with the contensts of assets.yaml, | 17:16 |
kfox1111 | and we can tweak the website to have a dynamically kept up to date "recently added" section. | 17:16 |
docaedo | kfox1111: +1 on that, once we have the base, it'll be easy to start adding small things (though we need to think about a redesign as well, and I'm definitely not a designer...) | 17:16 |
kfox1111 | k. | 17:17 |
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kfox1111 | yeah, I was thinking my next thing would be to move some of the generic stuff from app-catalog-ui into common, | 17:17 |
docaedo | kfox1111: I like that idea, and was along the lines of what I was thinking. That'll be a relatively easy thing to add | 17:17 |
kfox1111 | and then we can source it in the site. | 17:17 |
docaedo | good plan | 17:18 |
kfox1111 | we could then basically make the site look just like the horizon plugin if we wanted. | 17:18 |
kfox1111 | with install links changed to pop up the dialogs that exist on the website today. | 17:18 |
kfox1111 | that would make it easier to add new asset types in the futre. | 17:19 |
docaedo | yeah, sounds like a good plan | 17:19 |
kfox1111 | we would just tweak the code in -common. | 17:19 |
docaedo | I think this is going to come together nicely! | 17:19 |
kfox1111 | yup. :) | 17:19 |
kzaitsev_mb | so you basically want to allow theaming? | 17:20 |
docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: theming in horizon? Or as a concept for the web site? | 17:20 |
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kzaitsev_mb | I might be reading it wrong | 17:20 |
kzaitsev_mb | yep, nevermind =) | 17:21 |
kfox1111 | kzaitsev_mb: I'm suggesting, rather then have two different code bases, one for the site, and one for the horizon plugin, we try and share as much of the common code as we can, so that adding new features can be implemented once rather then twice. | 17:21 |
kzaitsev_mb | aha, got that. was a little confused by the "make it look like horizon" part | 17:22 |
kfox1111 | so, like when we add stars/likes, we just do it in -common. | 17:22 |
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kfox1111 | ah. sry. | 17:22 |
docaedo | OK I think that's a lot covered on the new website front, and feels like we're on the same page. I have some work to do now! moving on? | 17:22 |
kfox1111 | yup. k. | 17:23 |
docaedo | #topic Open discussion | 17:23 |
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docaedo | pkoros: did you have anything you wanted to discuss? Or just joining to learn more about what we're up to? | 17:23 |
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docaedo | and of course, anyone else, feel free to speak up if there's anything you wanted to discuss | 17:24 |
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docaedo | I didn't have anything to discuss, so unless someone else speaks up in the next minute or two I think we'll be done | 17:25 |
pkoros | just joining to learn more.. | 17:26 |
docaedo | pkoros: cool - be sure to join us on #openstack-app-catalog, that's where all the REAL action is ;) | 17:27 |
pkoros | ok | 17:27 |
docaedo | guess we're done, thanks everyone - I'll enumerate the next few things I'll be doing and (probably) put things up in blueprints | 17:28 |
docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
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SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: hi | 18:00 |
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ivar-lazzaro | hi | 18:00 |
SumitNaiksatam | dont see rkukura and magesh | 18:01 |
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rkukura | hi | 18:01 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: hi | 18:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: hi | 18:01 |
SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 17 18:01:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Sept_3rd.2C_10th.2C_17th_2015 | 18:02 |
SumitNaiksatam | not much change in the agenda from last time | 18:02 |
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SumitNaiksatam | our plan was to release l1 on sept 20th | 18:02 |
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SumitNaiksatam | let me know if there are any concerns | 18:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic Integration tests | 18:03 |
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rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Do you mean “out plan is …”? | 18:03 |
SumitNaiksatam | per last week, i had posted #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222048 | 18:03 |
rkukura | s/out/our/ | 18:03 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, the plan was and still “is” ;-) | 18:04 |
rkukura | thanks | 18:04 |
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SumitNaiksatam | i need to update the license header | 18:04 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: thanks for catching that, i made a mess in the search and replace | 18:05 |
SumitNaiksatam | anything else to discuss on that patch? | 18:05 |
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SumitNaiksatam | okay | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging | 18:06 |
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ivar-lazzaro | I was a bit confused about the comment on subprocess | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | #undo | 18:06 |
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ivar-lazzaro | "This has NO USE of subprocess module" | 18:06 |
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ivar-lazzaro | and yet that is imported below... Am I missing something? :) | 18:06 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: hopefully jishnu can respond to that, its his code verbatim | 18:06 |
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ivar-lazzaro | ok | 18:07 |
ivar-lazzaro | will catch up with him | 18:07 |
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SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging | 18:07 |
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rkukura | No news from me on this - I’ve been focusing on bugs and reviews, plus had some PTO | 18:08 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:09 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:09 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: want to discuss the patch you posted yesterday? | 18:11 |
rkukura | sure | 18:11 |
SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224293/ | 18:11 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so regarding the question on the success reported | 18:11 |
SumitNaiksatam | on the rally job | 18:11 |
rkukura | Apparently, the IP Pool overlaps exception is being hit via some codepath other than the one I fixed. | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:12 |
rkukura | I do see failures in http://logs.openstack.org/24/166424/44/check/gate-group-based-policy-dsvm-rally/eb4a553//logs/rally-task-results.txt.gz | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right | 18:12 |
SumitNaiksatam | so the rally job is not instrumented very liniently right now | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | so it does not report failures unless its a 0% failure on a particular test | 18:13 |
SumitNaiksatam | i meant it *is* linient | 18:13 |
rkukura | But I’m not seeing the new logging I added in the q-svc log that I’d expect if this was happening during implicit default l3p creation | 18:13 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: have you considered using overlapping name as per my comment? | 18:13 |
rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: I’m not sure what you mean by overlapping name | 18:14 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: we could verify in the create_l3p_precommit that no other L3P with name "default" exist for that tenant | 18:14 |
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ivar-lazzaro | this will be more reliable, and there are other places where this is done already | 18:14 |
rkukura | so your idea is to head off creation before we get to the postcommit | 18:15 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: so “default” would be a reserved name | 18:15 |
ivar-lazzaro | (for instance, I think you can't create a default SG in Neutron) | 18:15 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:15 |
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SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: you are right, there is that precedence in neutron | 18:15 |
ivar-lazzaro | that way we won't need to change the implementation once we fix the overlapping IP limitation | 18:16 |
rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: This may be the way to go, but I’d like to understand what is happening currently that is preventing my fix from working | 18:16 |
rkukura | I should be able to try ivar-lazzaro’s suggestion later today | 18:16 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: sounds like a plan! | 18:16 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i agree, it will be really helpful to understand what code blocks are problem areas for us from a concurrency perspective | 18:16 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so regarding the rally job status, the “success” report is kind of misleading and we need to change that | 18:17 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Do we want to fix the undelying issue first so that we really do expect 100% success? | 18:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so we should decide what level of concurrency error is tolerable, or we can just say that report failure if any test scenarion does not succeed 100% of the time | 18:18 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes sure, lets fix this, and see it get to 100%, and then we can consider changing the job reporting | 18:18 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:19 |
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SumitNaiksatam | this is actually the reason why i had kept it the way it is, because we had latent issues that we needed to fix before we put up a benchmark | 18:19 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the update on the patch | 18:20 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so you were able to find all the logs that you were looking for? | 18:20 |
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ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: I'd rather keep it non voting | 18:20 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: yes, although I wish GBP did more logging in q-svc.log | 18:20 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: it is non-voting | 18:20 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: and have people attention on concurrency issues | 18:20 |
ivar-lazzaro | when they come | 18:20 |
ivar-lazzaro | instead of making it more forgiving | 18:21 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agreed | 18:21 |
ivar-lazzaro | people don't look at SUCCESS logs ;) | 18:21 |
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SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i agree | 18:21 |
SumitNaiksatam | for now, just spreading the word around that we should examine rally job logs to see the actual passing percentage per scenario | 18:22 |
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SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: do we need to discuss any of your patches? | 18:23 |
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ivar-lazzaro | Does anyone have any question on them? | 18:24 |
ivar-lazzaro | not sure which one in particular could need attention | 18:24 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i believe we decided that https://review.openstack.org/212707 and https://review.openstack.org/166424 were ready | 18:25 |
SumitNaiksatam | based on mageshgv’s testing | 18:25 |
SumitNaiksatam | so we will move forward with them shortly | 18:25 |
ivar-lazzaro | yes, I need to remove the wip | 18:26 |
SumitNaiksatam | i believe #link https://review.openstack.org/224383 is also good | 18:26 |
rkukura | Was just going to mention the WIP in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212707/ | 18:26 |
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ivar-lazzaro | done | 18:27 |
SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: hi | 18:27 |
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SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: thanks ;-) | 18:28 |
mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 18:28 |
rkukura | I think I missed the last couple lines - anything important? | 18:28 |
SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: any feedback on the above discussion, or anything you are blocked on? | 18:28 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i dont think so | 18:28 |
rkukura | ok | 18:28 |
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mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: I ran into a few minor issues with provider owned patch, will add them to the review | 18:29 |
SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ah good to know, timely feedback | 18:29 |
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SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: are you still pursuing this #link https://review.openstack.org/212676 | 18:30 |
SumitNaiksatam | ? | 18:30 |
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mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: yes, will have to enforce the check on drivers only for the service chains | 18:31 |
SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: okay | 18:31 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: any chance you were able to explore #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1417312 or | 18:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1417312 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Existing L3Policy results in failure to create PTG with default L2Policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:32 |
SumitNaiksatam | https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1470646 | 18:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1470646 in Group Based Policy "Deleting network associated with L2P results in infinite loop" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:32 |
rkukura | I’ve looked at both a bit | 18:32 |
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rkukura | On the first, is the bug stating we need the ability to configure different default IP pools for L3Ps named ‘default’ than for L3Ps not named ‘default’? | 18:34 |
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rkukura | And on the 2nd, do we want to consider monkey patching neutron to avoid the loop? | 18:35 |
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SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: for the first i think the observation was that using an IP pool which overlaps the “default” ip_pool results in error but leaves some dangling resources | 18:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | the error is possibly coming from post-commit | 18:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | so i believe the suggestion is to catch the overlapping ip_pool upfront | 18:36 |
SumitNaiksatam | on the second one, it sounds fine to me to patch | 18:36 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I may have missed the dangling resources aspect of this | 18:36 |
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SumitNaiksatam | i guess we probably dont have too many other options | 18:37 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: shouldn't be a postcommit check though | 18:37 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: you are saying it should not be, it is currently not the case? | 18:38 |
SumitNaiksatam | * or its currently not the case | 18:38 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: I think this is not the case today | 18:38 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: but let me check very quickly | 18:38 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: lets follow up with jishnub (bug reporter) on what inconsistent state he was seeing | 18:39 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: thanks | 18:39 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: also... What driver are we talking about | 18:39 |
ivar-lazzaro | ? :) | 18:39 |
rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Sounds like the PTG itself isn’t getting cleaned up | 18:39 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: RMD | 18:39 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:39 |
ivar-lazzaro | #link https://github.com/stackforge/group-based-policy/blob/master/gbpservice/neutron/services/grouppolicy/drivers/resource_mapping.py#L827-L829 | 18:40 |
ivar-lazzaro | that's precommit operation | 18:40 |
ivar-lazzaro | this failure should rollback everything | 18:40 |
rkukura | Is the L3P getting created during the PTG’s postcommit? | 18:41 |
ivar-lazzaro | But I think we are dealing with the typical "IPD plot twist" issue :D | 18:41 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: what if the ip_pool is a subset of the default ip_pool? | 18:42 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: probably, but on any exception during Creation we delete the whole thing | 18:42 |
rkukura | We should be deleteing the resource when an exception is raising during postcommit of a create | 18:42 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: but since the L3P was already deleted within its precommit, IPD doesn't find it and fails during deletion | 18:42 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: we do, for all resources | 18:43 |
SumitNaiksatam | its quite possible that this bug does not stil manifest exactly as how it was observed originally | 18:44 |
rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: I see of errors in q-svc.log like: ERROR gbpservice.neutron.services.grouppolicy.plugin [req-61d2038c-d838-4805-825c-c3d8ebaba95a None None] delete_policy_target_group_postcommit failed for policy_target_group 1b4866b6-eea6-4180-a4c2-9681c87690e4 | 18:44 |
SumitNaiksatam | but i dont think we have updated this part of the RMD driver code for a while now, so it might still be there | 18:44 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: in that case (subset ip pool) it should still fail | 18:44 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:44 |
rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: Do you think these are from the IPD driver in the case aboce? | 18:44 |
rkukura | above | 18:44 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: yes | 18:45 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: The other issue we have there is that we don't LOG the error | 18:45 |
ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: actually we do, but it should be a LOG.exception instead | 18:45 |
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SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: so yeah, this sounds like the IPD, RMD interaction issue where the rollback can happen only up to a certain extent | 18:46 |
ivar-lazzaro | good news is that this issue seems reproducible via UTs | 18:46 |
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SumitNaiksatam | in this case the new L3P does not get created | 18:46 |
SumitNaiksatam | but the PTG in error is not rolled back | 18:47 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: it is rolled back! But the rollback fails | 18:47 |
ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: that's what I suspect at least | 18:47 |
SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: yeah, i mean the net effect being that the PTG stays in the DB | 18:48 |
rkukura | I’ll dig into this one I’ve updated the fix for the 1st bug | 18:48 |
SumitNaiksatam | in an inconsistent state | 18:48 |
SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: nice, thanks | 18:48 |
SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:48 |
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SumitNaiksatam | just wanted to update there were some gate issues yesterday | 18:49 |
SumitNaiksatam | new oslo and client libraries were released yesterday | 18:49 |
SumitNaiksatam | and they caused kilo branch breakages | 18:49 |
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SumitNaiksatam | we had to cap some oslo lib versions to get beyond this | 18:49 |
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SumitNaiksatam | also currentlt the gate seems to be stalled | 18:50 |
SumitNaiksatam | i noticed in the morning that the pypi mirror for openstack was not finding the right pbr version | 18:50 |
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SumitNaiksatam | i suspect that at this point the jobs are only queued, but nothing is actually executing | 18:51 |
SumitNaiksatam | i also have not posted the client fix for the stable/juno branch which will align it with neutronclient 2.3.12 | 18:51 |
SumitNaiksatam | will try to do that shortly, will let you know | 18:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | anything else? | 18:52 |
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SumitNaiksatam | alright, thanks everyone! | 18:52 |
SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:52 |
rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam! | 18:52 |
ivar-lazzaro | bye! | 18:53 |
SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:53 |
mageshgv | bye | 18:53 |
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rkukura | bye | 18:53 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 18:53:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:53 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-09-17-18.01.html | 18:53 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-09-17-18.01.txt | 18:53 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-09-17-18.01.log.html | 18:53 |
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mattgriffin | #startmeeting ha-guide | 20:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 17 20:01:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattgriffin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha_guide' | 20:01 |
mattgriffin | anyone else here for the HA Guide meeting? | 20:01 |
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mattgriffin | fyi... i'm preparing a poll to update the HA Guide meeting time to a hour that's better for more people in order to get more attendance | 20:18 |
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mattgriffin | #endmeeting | 20:22 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 17 20:22:04 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:22 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha_guide/2015/ha_guide.2015-09-17-20.01.html | 20:22 |
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