Thursday, 2015-09-17

elmiko#startmeeting api wg00:00
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elmikolast call for api wg meeting, speak now or wait till next week ;)00:04
elmiko#endmeeting00:05
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-17-00.00.html00:05
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-17-00.00.txt00:05
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-17-00.00.log.html00:05
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate is currently stuck, failing grenade upgrade tests due the release of oslo.utils 1.4.1 for Juno.08:01
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate back to normal, thanks to the backlisting of the problematic version10:15
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carl_baldwin#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
regXboicarl_baldwin: I made it :)15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 17 15:00:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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mlavalleahoy15:00
carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:00
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carl_baldwinThe RC period starts next week.15:01
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carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule15:01
neiljerramo/15:01
carl_baldwinWe’ve got three candidates for PTL15:01
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carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/election+file:%255Ecandidates/mitaka/Neutron/.*,n,z15:02
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Swamihi15:02
carl_baldwinYour vote is important.  The last election for Neutron was won by one vote if I recall correctly.  ;)15:02
neiljerramIt's good of those people to stand.15:02
carl_baldwin+115:03
regXboimore should feel free :)15:03
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carl_baldwinAny other announcements?15:03
carl_baldwinregXboi: I think nominations are now closed.15:03
regXboicarl_baldwin: that was more of a statement for next time15:04
carl_baldwinI see15:04
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carl_baldwinLet’s move on to bugs.15:04
carl_baldwin#topic Bugs15:05
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mlavallehi15:05
carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda15:05
carl_baldwinmlavalle: hi15:05
mlavallelast week we were tracking 2 critical bugs15:05
carl_baldwinLooks like they’re both doing well.15:05
mlavallet=yeah, I helped to diagnose one of them and armax proposed a fix over the weekend15:06
mlavalleno events since then15:06
carl_baldwinGood work.15:06
mlavallethe other one had a fix by armax on labor day15:06
mlavalleno events since then15:06
mlavalleso thank you very much to armax15:06
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mlavalleI kept 2 high importance bugs in the agenda15:07
armaxmlavalle: thank you guys for staying on top of things15:07
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Any idea where we’re at with HA/DVR?15:07
mlavallehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/136547315:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Adolfo Duarte (adolfo-duarte)15:07
mlavalleAdolfo had been actively pushing fixes to this15:08
mlavalleseems to be making progress, although it seems difficult to fix15:08
Swamicarl_baldwin: adolfo mentioned that was rebasing his patch yesterday15:08
mlavallethere are 2 fixes, one for the server and one for the agent15:08
amullersadly jschwarz is away on PTO15:08
amullerso he won't be able to help there any more for the upcoming week or two15:08
Swamicarl_baldwin: There was some functional test that broke because of a recent change in upstream and adolfo is working on it.15:09
mlavallelast time adolfo pushed code was the end of last week15:09
mlavalleso i say let's give adolfo time to keep maming progress15:09
carl_baldwinamuller: Any idea where things stood when jshwarz left?15:09
Swamimlavalle: last week he was on a training the whole weem.15:09
amullernot great...15:09
amullerI asked John to create an etherpad for it15:10
amullerwhich is linked from the bug report15:10
amullerhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DVR_HA_Routers15:10
carl_baldwinamuller: Thanks for calling attention to that.15:11
Swamiamuller: thanks for the link, I will communicate to adolfo.15:11
carl_baldwinFor bug #1494351, pavel has a fix up marked WIP.15:12
openstackbug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1494351 - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:12
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223123/15:12
mlavallecorrect15:12
regXboicarl_baldwin, mlavalle: I don't have anything to add to the list this week - the backlog is now down to 14 bugs without fix commits for RC1 :)15:12
mlavallepavel_bondar: thanks for that progress!15:13
regXboiso I will go through these and pull up ones for next week that could use some review love15:13
carl_baldwinregXboi: That is great progress.15:13
regXboicarl_baldwin: thanks to all the folks pitching in!15:13
pavel_bondarI need to rework current fix to use compare-and-swap logic to make it work with Galera, so it may take time15:13
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: Thanks.15:14
mlavalleregXboi: I kept https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/145098215:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1450982 in neutron "DVR: Moving FloatingIP between hosts can lead to Floating Agent Gateway Port not being deleted" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:14
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mlavallein the agenda15:14
regXboimlavalle: I believe all of the patches for that have merged?15:14
mlavallebut I think we all the fixes are in, so if that's ok with you, i'll remove it15:14
Swamimlavalle: the above bug was fixed and merged.15:15
regXboiSwami: thanks, beat me to asking the question :)15:15
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mlavalleregXboi, Swami: ok, i'll remove it from tracking15:15
Swamimlavalle: thanks15:15
carl_baldwinAny other bugs to mention?15:15
Swamicarl_baldwin: there was another bug that I filed yesterday.15:16
mlavallefinally there are medium importance bugs that need prunning.... i'll work on it this week15:16
Swamicarl_baldwin: I have a patch for it15:16
carl_baldwinSwami: That’s right, do you have a link for it?15:16
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224250/15:16
carl_baldwinSwami: thanks15:17
mlavalleSwami: I'll track it for next week15:17
Swamimlavalle: thanks15:17
carl_baldwin#topic Routed network segments15:17
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carl_baldwinWork is continuing on this.  I will have a spec up by tomorrow.15:18
neiljerramLooking forward to that!15:18
tidwellrthen the party really starts ;015:19
carl_baldwin:)15:19
carl_baldwinWe should have a lot more to discuss next week.15:19
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carl_baldwin#topic DVR15:20
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Swamicarl_baldwin: hi15:20
carl_baldwinDVR came up in a big way at the QA sprint this week.  regXboi, sc68cal, dougwig, and I represented Neutron there.15:20
sc68cal:)15:20
regXboi:) :)15:20
mlavallenice representation15:20
regXboi(oh my)15:20
mlavallewe sent the big guns!15:21
carl_baldwinWhat kicked of the discussion was the failure rate of the DVR job.15:21
carl_baldwin#link http://goo.gl/j5UkwT15:21
regXboisc68cal - do you have link to the email you sent to the mailing list as well?15:21
sc68calregXboi: sure15:21
Swamicarl_baldwin: but that was a spike because of bug introduced on a patch.15:22
sc68calhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074433.html15:22
carl_baldwin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074445.html15:22
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carl_baldwinSwami: It wasn’t the spike in the multi-node job that sparked the discussion.15:22
Swamicarl_baldwin: The main think that we need to solve in DVR is consistency15:22
carl_baldwinIt was the gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr job that sparked the discussion.15:23
regXboithere are *lots* of things to solve in DVR15:23
Swamicarl_baldwin: we have always seen a 10-12% deviation in the DVR job and all those are related to session timed out.15:23
carl_baldwinFor those of us who have looked at this graph for a long time now, we know that this job consistently doubles the failure rate of the gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full job.15:23
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regXboicarl_baldwin: ack and #sadpanda15:24
Swamicarl_baldwin: right now the only difference in floating ip is basically we do have two namespaces for the packets to travel through and we need to figure out a way to debug where it is exactly failing.15:24
carl_baldwinSwami: Right, and we need to get to the bottom of it.15:25
mlavalleSwami: would it be a metter of training people so we have more eyes to debug issues?15:25
mlavallematter^^^15:25
Swamimlavalle: sure I can help anyone if they are interested in poking around.15:25
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mlavalleSwami: if that helps, we can send an invitation to the ML asking for volunteers....15:26
Swamimlavalle:Some of tempest test does not wait for the floatingip status.15:26
sc68calmlavalle: think my post to the ML may cover the ask for volunteers15:27
regXboiSwami: that is because some of the scenario tests use nova apis for creating floating IPs and they *can't* check for status15:27
Swamimlavalle: long time back I tried to add a patch to check for status and then do an ssh. But that patch got -1 since people said that some of the nova network tests does not having floatingip status.15:27
SwamiregXboi: you are right, you beat me again.15:27
mlavallesc68cal: yeah! you covered that base15:27
regXboiSwami: I think we need to file a bug against the nova legacy apis that if they are going to return 201 then internally they have to check status15:28
SwamiregXboi: mlavalle: so my question is how do we tackle this problem.15:28
regXboi^^^^15:28
haleybone thing that I'm guilty of myself is always doing a 'recheck' when that job failed, so we were letting possible race conditions survive.  I've seen some interesting errors this past week that I'm filing bugs for15:28
carl_baldwinregXboi and haleyb have gratiously agreed to devote some of their time to this.  I’d like for them to lead the effort to root cause this.15:28
Swamihaleyb: thanks15:28
regXboiI talked to mtreinish about this very issue during the sprint and his suggestion was to file the bug on nova15:29
Swamicarl_baldwin: I will also help them to root cause the issue.15:29
regXboibecause we don't have to change the API behavior, we need to change what it does before the API behavior15:29
carl_baldwinSwami: Much appreciated, thanks.15:29
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haleybSwami: sometimes it's ovs, or some other thing like "no router namespace", either way investigating more is a good thing15:30
SwamiregXboi: haleyb: I can sync up with you guys and keep me in the loop.15:30
carl_baldwinI’ll leave it to regXboi and haleyb to decide what the best way to coordinate and communicate is.15:30
Swamihaleyb: yes I agree.15:31
Swamicarl_baldwin: so what was the decision taken in the qa meeting.15:31
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Swamicarl_baldwin: should dvr completely line up with CVR before we re-enable the voting.15:32
regXboiI would say we should be *much* closer than we are now, but people should be prepared for patches to be -1'd because the n-v dvr job failed15:32
carl_baldwinSwami: There will always be instantaneous differences in the failure rates.  But, averaging over a period of recent history should show that they’re about the same.15:33
SwamiregXboi: haleyb: carl_baldwin: One think we should also keep in mind is look at the non-voting dvr job before pushing in any patch that would save my life.15:33
Swamicarl_baldwin: got it. thanks.15:34
haleybSwami: i hope you're not putting neutron on a defibrillator :)15:34
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carl_baldwinWe should mention this in the neutron meeting as a reminder to core reviewers to pay attention to oven the non-voting jobs.15:34
carl_baldwins/oven/even/15:35
regXboicarl_baldwin: +115:35
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mlavalleI think also, that under further notice, we should keep DVR as an explicit agenda topic during this weekly meeting15:35
mtreinishcarl_baldwin: one option is to make it voting, but on neutron patches only15:35
mtreinishbut then y'all have to suffer the pain of a 25% fail rate15:35
haleybcarl_baldwin: armando did just send out a review about being 'effective', seems like an addition there15:35
Swamimlavalle: sure I will try to join the meeting every week. I had to drop of my kids during this time, so I have not joined for a while. But I will make alternate arrangements.15:36
carl_baldwinmtreinish: We almost went that way but decided against it.15:36
carl_baldwinhaleyb: link?15:36
regXboimtreinish: greetings!15:36
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/224419/15:36
haleybi haven't even read it yet myself15:37
mlavalleSwami: thanks!15:37
mtreinishcarl_baldwin: ok sure15:38
carl_baldwinmtreinish: Thanks.15:38
carl_baldwinI feel like we’re about at the end of this topic, anything else?15:39
regXboicarl_baldwin: not this week - there is more, but the prep work isn't done yet and that's on me15:39
Swamicarl_baldwin: thanks, I don't have anything .15:39
carl_baldwinThanks, all.15:40
carl_baldwin#topic BGP dynamic routing15:40
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tidwellrhi15:40
carl_baldwintidwellr: vikram: hi15:40
vikramhi15:40
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vikramsorry, i don't have much update from my end as I was on vacation..15:41
vikramthanks to tidewellr for taking care of things15:41
vikramthanks to tidwellr for taking care of things15:41
tidwellrgood progress in the last week, we've worked out some more kinks Neutron is now peering and advertising routes with other routers15:41
vikramOh My God!!! We did it;)15:42
carl_baldwinThat sounds like great progress.15:42
mlavalletidwellr: ++15:42
tidwellrattention now turns to getting the agent to report status of peering sessions and getting Neutron push the correct routes through the dr_agent15:43
carl_baldwinAnything to discuss here?15:44
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tidwellrdon't need any time here15:44
carl_baldwintidwellr: Thanks.15:44
vikramgreat work tidwellr15:45
carl_baldwin#topic DNS15:45
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: hi15:45
mlavallehi again15:45
mlavalleprogress was a little slower this week, diagnosing bugs and taking a few days off (daughter got engaged in Wasjington DC)15:45
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mlavallehowever, I managed to crank some code in the airplanes, while wife was sleepong15:46
mlavallesleeping^^^^15:46
carl_baldwinmlavalle: congrats to daughter!15:46
mlavalleI addressed carl_baldwin 's comments in his last review15:46
mlavallehe pointed correctly that I was forgetting PTR records15:47
mlavalleso I added code for that and also the allembic migration script15:47
mlavallepushed PS8 yesterday, which I am going to debug today in my sandbox15:48
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/15:48
johnbelamaricmlavalle: congrats. you should have told me you were here in town :)15:48
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mlavallealso yesterday had a conversation with Kiall (designate PTL) and mestery about adding neutron + designate to the gate15:49
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mlavallethe decision was to do it experimentally during the rest of Liberty and aim to merge early i M15:49
mlavalleexpect PS( later today, with the results of my debugging session15:50
mlavallePS9^^^15:50
mlavalleand at that point I will ask more reviews, also from the Designate team15:50
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mlavalleI want them to see the way I am handling the PTR records15:51
carl_baldwinmlavalle: +1.  Encouraging reviewers.15:51
mlavallethat's it for this week15:51
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thank you.15:51
carl_baldwin#topic Open Discussion15:51
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carl_baldwinAny other topics needing attention this week?15:51
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carl_baldwinThanks, all!15:53
carl_baldwin#endmeeting15:53
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Sep 17 15:53:54 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:53
yamamotobye15:53
neiljerrambye!15:53
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regXboibye all15:54
Swamibye15:54
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vnod#startmeeting cloudpulse16:10
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vnodIt looks like both Auktavian and Anand can't make it today16:30
vnod#endmeeting16:30
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docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:00
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docaedo#topic rollcall17:00
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kfox1111o/17:01
docaedoo/17:01
kzaitsev_mbo/17:01
docaedothe usual suspects :)17:01
pkoroso/17:01
docaedo#topic Status updates (docaedo)17:02
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pkorosfirst timer!17:02
docaedopkoros: welcome!17:02
kfox1111welcome. :)17:02
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docaedoone update, looks like I'm the official PTL now, which means .. not too much :) don't expect things to change too much17:03
kfox1111yay! :)17:03
docaedobut I will be cleaning up the group membership, which I'll announce on the ML. We have a bunch of cores that haven't touched the app catalog in many months17:03
docaedoalso need to get kfox1111  and myself added to release17:04
docaedoand if kzaitsev_mb is not a core, he should be (again, will be handled on the mailing list for proper exposure17:04
kzaitsev_mbI believe I'm not =) would be honored )17:04
kfox1111status update for the horizon plugin. Have a prototype package for rdo working. in the process, found a bug. apps.openstack.org needs https support if the horizon is https.17:04
kfox1111docaedo: +1 for kzaitsev_mb17:05
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docaedokfox1111: yep, thanks for logging a bug, I'll get that sorted out in the next few days17:05
docaedo#action docaedo to get SSL cert for app catalog website17:05
kfox1111np. I also have to fix the bug on the plugin side so that it just requests the same protocol as its running, rather then just http://17:06
docaedogood idea17:06
docaedothe only other update of sorts I have is that I'm planning to work on adding a few heat templates in the next few days17:06
docaedoanyone else with status updates before we move on?17:07
docaedo#topic Discuss "new site plans" etherpad (docaedo)17:07
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docaedo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-v2-backend17:07
kfox1111oh. on that topic, we probably need another repo. an app-catalog-common or something like that.17:08
docaedoAfter spending some time this week playing with flask and looking through it, seems like that's going to be the best choice for a framework.17:08
kfox1111so we can put javascript/images that can be shared between apps-catalog-ui and apps.openstack.org17:08
docaedoIt's being used by keystone and a few other projects as well17:08
docaedokfox1111: what if we just put the shared bits in the app-catalog repo? Trying to make sure we don't start making things too complicated here :)17:09
kfox1111k. we'll use flask, and reevaluate only if it just doesn't work well. since so many projects are using it, I wouldn't expect it to be a problem.17:09
kzaitsev_mb+1 for flask, should be pretty straightforward )17:10
kfox1111I can see app-catalog storing a lot of server related bits in it, that shouldn't be installed if all your doing is install the horizon plugin.17:10
docaedoah yeah, that makes sense17:11
kfox1111I think app-catalog-common will end up being just some of the angular js files and some icons. Then the server/plugin will import it and add specific to that package's js/images to it.17:12
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kfox1111should be a very light repo.17:12
docaedosounds like that would work...17:13
kfox1111could you put in the request for it?17:14
docaedoI think the next step on this topic will be to make a version of the app catalog basically as-is, except served by flask (with the JSON bit built and served at the same API endpoint, except this time built dynamically by flask)17:15
docaedoand yes, I can put in a request for the repo17:15
kfox1111+117:15
docaedo#action docaedo to request a new repo for common elements shared between app-catalog and ui17:15
docaedoso .. volunteers for that flask thing? Or shall I take it?17:15
kfox1111One of the first features I'd like to see after that is something that keeps track of when entries were commited.17:16
kfox1111the flask endpoint can join that date in with the contensts of assets.yaml,17:16
kfox1111and we can tweak the website to have a dynamically kept up to date "recently added" section.17:16
docaedokfox1111: +1 on that, once we have the base, it'll be easy to start adding small things (though we need to think about a redesign as well, and I'm definitely not a designer...)17:16
kfox1111k.17:17
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kfox1111yeah, I was thinking my next thing would be to move some of the generic stuff from app-catalog-ui into common,17:17
docaedokfox1111: I like that idea, and was along the lines of what I was thinking. That'll be a relatively easy thing to add17:17
kfox1111and then we can source it in the site.17:17
docaedogood plan17:18
kfox1111we could then basically make the site look just like the horizon plugin if we wanted.17:18
kfox1111with install links changed to pop up the dialogs that exist on the website today.17:18
kfox1111that would make it easier to add new asset types in the futre.17:19
docaedoyeah, sounds like a good plan17:19
kfox1111we would just tweak the code in -common.17:19
docaedoI think this is going to come together nicely!17:19
kfox1111yup. :)17:19
kzaitsev_mbso you basically want to allow theaming?17:20
docaedokzaitsev_mb: theming in horizon? Or as a concept for the web site?17:20
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kzaitsev_mbI might be reading it wrong17:20
kzaitsev_mbyep, nevermind =)17:21
kfox1111kzaitsev_mb: I'm suggesting, rather then have two different code bases, one for the site, and one for the horizon plugin, we try and share as much of the common code as we can, so that adding new features can be implemented once rather then twice.17:21
kzaitsev_mbaha, got that. was a little confused by the "make it look like horizon" part17:22
kfox1111so, like when we add stars/likes, we just do it in -common.17:22
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kfox1111ah. sry.17:22
docaedoOK I think that's a lot covered on the new website front, and feels like we're on the same page. I have some work to do now! moving on?17:22
kfox1111yup. k.17:23
docaedo#topic Open discussion17:23
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docaedopkoros: did you have anything you wanted to discuss? Or just joining to learn more about what we're up to?17:23
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docaedoand of course, anyone else, feel free to speak up if there's anything you wanted to discuss17:24
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docaedoI didn't have anything to discuss, so unless someone else speaks up in the next minute or two I think we'll be done17:25
pkorosjust joining to learn more..17:26
docaedopkoros: cool - be sure to join us on #openstack-app-catalog, that's where all the REAL action is ;)17:27
pkorosok17:27
docaedoguess we're done, thanks everyone - I'll enumerate the next few things I'll be doing and (probably) put things up in blueprints17:28
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: hi18:00
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ivar-lazzarohi18:00
SumitNaiksatamdont see rkukura and magesh18:01
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rkukurahi18:01
ivar-lazzarorkukura: hi18:01
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: hi18:01
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:01
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SumitNaiksatam#info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Sept_3rd.2C_10th.2C_17th_201518:02
SumitNaiksatamnot much change in the agenda from last time18:02
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SumitNaiksatamour plan was to release l1 on sept 20th18:02
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SumitNaiksatamlet me know if there are any concerns18:03
SumitNaiksatam#topic Integration tests18:03
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rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Do you mean “out plan is …”?18:03
SumitNaiksatamper last week, i had posted #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22204818:03
rkukuras/out/our/18:03
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yes, the plan was and still “is” ;-)18:04
rkukurathanks18:04
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SumitNaiksatami need to update the license header18:04
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks for catching that, i made a mess in the search and replace18:05
SumitNaiksatamanything else to discuss on that patch?18:05
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SumitNaiksatamokay18:06
SumitNaiksatam#topic Packaging18:06
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ivar-lazzaroI was a bit confused about the comment on subprocess18:06
SumitNaiksatam#undo18:06
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ivar-lazzaro"This has NO USE of subprocess module"18:06
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ivar-lazzaroand yet that is imported below... Am I missing something? :)18:06
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: hopefully jishnu can respond to that, its his code verbatim18:06
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ivar-lazzarook18:07
ivar-lazzarowill catch up with him18:07
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SumitNaiksatam#topic Packaging18:07
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rkukuraNo news from me on this - I’ve been focusing on bugs and reviews, plus had some PTO18:08
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:09
SumitNaiksatam#topic Bugs18:09
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: want to discuss the patch you posted yesterday?18:11
rkukurasure18:11
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224293/18:11
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so regarding the question on the success reported18:11
SumitNaiksatamon the rally job18:11
rkukuraApparently, the IP Pool overlaps exception is being hit via some codepath other than the one I fixed.18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:12
rkukuraI do see failures in http://logs.openstack.org/24/166424/44/check/gate-group-based-policy-dsvm-rally/eb4a553//logs/rally-task-results.txt.gz18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: right18:12
SumitNaiksatamso the rally job is not instrumented very liniently right now18:13
SumitNaiksatamso it does not report failures unless its a 0% failure on a particular test18:13
SumitNaiksatami meant it *is* linient18:13
rkukuraBut I’m not seeing the new logging I added in the q-svc log that I’d expect if this was happening during implicit default l3p creation18:13
ivar-lazzarorkukura: have you considered using overlapping name as per my comment?18:13
rkukuraivar-lazzaro: I’m not sure what you mean by overlapping name18:14
ivar-lazzarorkukura: we could verify in the create_l3p_precommit that no other L3P with name "default" exist for that tenant18:14
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ivar-lazzarothis will be more reliable, and there are other places where this is done already18:14
rkukuraso your idea is to head off creation before we get to the postcommit18:15
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: so “default” would be a reserved name18:15
ivar-lazzaro(for instance, I think you can't create a default SG in Neutron)18:15
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: yes18:15
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: you are right, there is that precedence in neutron18:15
ivar-lazzarothat way we won't need to change the implementation once we fix the overlapping IP limitation18:16
rkukuraivar-lazzaro: This may be the way to go, but I’d like to understand what is happening currently that is preventing my fix from working18:16
rkukuraI should be able to try ivar-lazzaro’s suggestion later today18:16
ivar-lazzarorkukura: sounds like a plan!18:16
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i agree, it will be really helpful to understand what code blocks are problem areas for us from a concurrency perspective18:16
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so regarding the rally job status, the “success” report is kind of misleading and we need to change that18:17
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Do we want to fix the undelying issue first so that we really do expect 100% success?18:18
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so we should decide what level of concurrency error is tolerable, or we can just say that report failure if any test scenarion does not succeed 100% of the time18:18
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yes sure, lets fix this, and see it get to 100%, and then we can consider changing the job reporting18:18
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: +118:19
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SumitNaiksatamthis is actually the reason why i had kept it the way it is, because we had latent issues that we needed to fix before we put up a benchmark18:19
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks for the update on the patch18:20
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so you were able to find all the logs that you were looking for?18:20
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ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: I'd rather keep it non voting18:20
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: yes, although I wish GBP did more logging in q-svc.log18:20
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: it is non-voting18:20
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: and have people attention on concurrency issues18:20
ivar-lazzarowhen they come18:20
ivar-lazzaroinstead of making it more forgiving18:21
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: agreed18:21
ivar-lazzaropeople don't look at SUCCESS logs ;)18:21
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i agree18:21
SumitNaiksatamfor now, just spreading the word around that we should examine rally job logs to see the actual passing percentage per scenario18:22
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: do we need to discuss any of your patches?18:23
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ivar-lazzaroDoes anyone have any question on them?18:24
ivar-lazzaronot sure which one in particular could need attention18:24
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i believe we decided that https://review.openstack.org/212707 and https://review.openstack.org/166424 were ready18:25
SumitNaiksatambased on mageshgv’s testing18:25
SumitNaiksatamso we will move forward with them shortly18:25
ivar-lazzaroyes, I need to remove the wip18:26
SumitNaiksatami believe #link https://review.openstack.org/224383 is also good18:26
rkukuraWas just going to mention the WIP in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212707/18:26
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ivar-lazzarodone18:27
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: hi18:27
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks ;-)18:28
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: hi18:28
rkukuraI think I missed the last couple lines - anything important?18:28
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: any feedback on the above discussion, or anything you are blocked on?18:28
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i dont think so18:28
rkukuraok18:28
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mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: I ran into a few minor issues with provider owned patch, will add them to the review18:29
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: ah good to know, timely feedback18:29
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SumitNaiksatammageshgv: are you still pursuing this #link https://review.openstack.org/21267618:30
SumitNaiksatam?18:30
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mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: yes, will have to enforce the check on drivers only for the service chains18:31
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: okay18:31
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: any chance you were able to explore #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1417312 or18:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1417312 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Existing L3Policy results in failure to create PTG with default L2Policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:32
SumitNaiksatamhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/147064618:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1470646 in Group Based Policy "Deleting network associated with L2P results in infinite loop" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:32
rkukuraI’ve looked at both a bit18:32
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rkukuraOn the first, is the bug stating we need the ability to configure different default IP pools for L3Ps named ‘default’ than for L3Ps not named ‘default’?18:34
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rkukuraAnd on the 2nd, do we want to consider monkey patching neutron to avoid the loop?18:35
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: for the first i think the observation was that using an IP pool which overlaps the “default” ip_pool results in error but leaves some dangling resources18:36
SumitNaiksatamthe error is possibly coming from post-commit18:36
SumitNaiksatamso i believe the suggestion is to catch the overlapping ip_pool upfront18:36
SumitNaiksatamon the second one, it sounds fine to me to patch18:36
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: I may have missed the dangling resources aspect of this18:36
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SumitNaiksatami guess we probably dont have too many other options18:37
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: shouldn't be a postcommit check though18:37
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: you are saying it should not be, it is currently not the case?18:38
SumitNaiksatam* or its currently not the case18:38
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: I think this is not the case today18:38
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: but let me check very quickly18:38
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: lets follow up with jishnub (bug reporter) on what inconsistent state he was seeing18:39
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks18:39
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: also... What driver are we talking about18:39
ivar-lazzaro? :)18:39
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Sounds like the PTG itself isn’t getting cleaned up18:39
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: RMD18:39
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:39
ivar-lazzaro#link https://github.com/stackforge/group-based-policy/blob/master/gbpservice/neutron/services/grouppolicy/drivers/resource_mapping.py#L827-L82918:40
ivar-lazzarothat's precommit operation18:40
ivar-lazzarothis failure should rollback everything18:40
rkukuraIs the L3P getting created during the PTG’s postcommit?18:41
ivar-lazzaroBut I think we are dealing with the typical "IPD plot twist" issue :D18:41
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: what if the ip_pool is a subset of the default ip_pool?18:42
ivar-lazzarorkukura: probably, but on any exception during Creation we delete the whole thing18:42
rkukuraWe should be deleteing the resource when an exception is raising during postcommit of a create18:42
ivar-lazzarorkukura: but since the L3P was already deleted within its precommit, IPD doesn't find it and fails during deletion18:42
ivar-lazzarorkukura: we do, for all resources18:43
SumitNaiksatamits quite possible that this bug does not stil manifest exactly as how it was observed originally18:44
rkukuraivar-lazzaro: I see of errors in q-svc.log like: ERROR gbpservice.neutron.services.grouppolicy.plugin [req-61d2038c-d838-4805-825c-c3d8ebaba95a None None] delete_policy_target_group_postcommit failed for policy_target_group 1b4866b6-eea6-4180-a4c2-9681c87690e418:44
SumitNaiksatambut i dont think we have updated this part of the RMD driver code for a while now, so it might still be there18:44
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: in that case (subset ip pool) it should still fail18:44
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: okay18:44
rkukuraivar-lazzaro: Do you think these are from the IPD driver in the case aboce?18:44
rkukuraabove18:44
ivar-lazzarorkukura: yes18:45
ivar-lazzarorkukura: The other issue we have there is that we don't LOG the error18:45
ivar-lazzarorkukura: actually we do, but it should be a LOG.exception instead18:45
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: so yeah, this sounds like the IPD, RMD interaction issue where the rollback can happen only up to a certain extent18:46
ivar-lazzarogood news is that this issue seems reproducible via UTs18:46
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SumitNaiksatamin this case the new L3P does not get created18:46
SumitNaiksatambut the PTG in error is not rolled back18:47
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: it is rolled back! But the rollback fails18:47
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: that's what I suspect at least18:47
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: yeah, i mean the net effect being that the PTG stays in the DB18:48
rkukuraI’ll dig into this one I’ve updated the fix for the 1st bug18:48
SumitNaiksatamin an inconsistent state18:48
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: nice, thanks18:48
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:48
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SumitNaiksatamjust wanted to update there were some gate issues yesterday18:49
SumitNaiksatamnew oslo and client libraries were released yesterday18:49
SumitNaiksatamand they caused kilo branch breakages18:49
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SumitNaiksatamwe had to cap some oslo lib versions to get beyond this18:49
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SumitNaiksatamalso currentlt the gate seems to be stalled18:50
SumitNaiksatami noticed in the morning that the pypi mirror for openstack was not finding the right pbr version18:50
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SumitNaiksatami suspect that at this point the jobs are only queued, but nothing is actually executing18:51
SumitNaiksatami also have not posted the client fix for the stable/juno branch which will align it with neutronclient 2.3.1218:51
SumitNaiksatamwill try to do that shortly, will let you know18:52
SumitNaiksatamanything else?18:52
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SumitNaiksatamalright, thanks everyone!18:52
SumitNaiksatambye!18:52
rkukurathanks SumitNaiksatam!18:52
ivar-lazzarobye!18:53
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:53
mageshgvbye18:53
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mattgriffin#startmeeting ha-guide20:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 17 20:01:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mattgriffin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
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mattgriffinanyone else here for the HA Guide meeting?20:01
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mattgriffinfyi... i'm preparing a poll to update the HA Guide meeting time to a hour that's better for more people in order to get more attendance20:18
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mattgriffin#endmeeting20:22
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