Wednesday, 2015-09-23

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david-lyle#startmeeting horizondrivers12:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 23 12:00:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.12:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers'12:00
david-lyleanyone around ?12:00
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tsufievhi12:01
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robcresswello/12:02
mrungeo/12:03
david-lylethat feels like the usual suspects12:03
mrungefor reference, the agenda is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HorizonDrivers#Agenda_for_September_23_1200_UTC12:04
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david-lyleJust want to start by thanking everyone for their attention to the FFEs and bugs for Liberty RC-112:05
robcresswellmrunge: You forgot the link! tut tut12:05
david-lyleall the FFEs are merged or bumped and just a handful of bugs left12:05
mrungeI did? where robcresswell12:05
robcresswellwith the agenda, the meetingbot command :)12:05
david-lyle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HorizonDrivers#Agenda_for_September_23_1200_UTC12:06
mrungerobcresswell, gotyou12:06
mrunge#action mrunge to remember linking correctly12:06
mrunge;-)12:06
david-lyle#topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-glance-large-image-upload12:06
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david-lyletsufiev: how does this related to the tasks API?12:07
tsufievso it was first hold off due to Travis' words, but then it became clear that he meant a different BP, authored by Janet Yu12:07
tsufievdavid-lyle, AFAIK, it is not related12:08
mrungetsufiev, I like that, it addresses a long standing issue12:08
mrungebut: you need to take care of keystone tokens12:09
tsufievmrunge, yes, that's where I currently stopped12:09
mrungei.e. take care for the fact, that keystone tokens might time out during upload12:09
tsufievah...12:09
david-lylehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance-tasks-import12:09
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david-lyle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance-tasks-import12:09
doug-fishnot to get to far into the details, but how would the keystone timeout be addressed?12:10
tsufievdavid-lyle, thanks for the link, looks like some new API. I targeted the old one12:10
tsufievwill read through12:10
mrungedoug-fish, I have no idea. this is an issue for cli, too12:10
doug-fishoh12:10
doug-fishinvention required12:10
david-lyletsufiev: the bps are from 201312:10
tsufievdoug-fish, keystone trusts?12:10
tsufievdavid-lyle, hm... Anyways, will read through :)12:11
doug-fishtsufiev: not sure - I don't know enough about that to say12:11
mrungeuploading a 20 gigs windows image over a dsl line takes maybe longer than keystone tokens live12:11
david-lyleI believe this allows you to tell glance the source and not have to relay the data12:11
tsufievdavid-lyle, exactly12:11
david-lylenew to me too12:11
amotokiit seems glance craetes a task resource under a project, so we don't need to take care of token expiration.12:12
david-lylebut might save you some work12:12
tsufievI think that taking care of token timeout should be done at Glance side12:12
robcresswell"cleverly written JS code" - sounds fantastic12:12
tsufievrobcresswell, don't say that to Angular team ;)12:12
robcresswelltsufiev: Agreed on timeout, it is a client issue too, so should not be a concern of ours (but needs to be noted, as it may be a blocker)12:13
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david-lyleif the tasks API won't work you'll have to work on reissuing tokens12:13
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tsufievdavid-lyle, I'll elaborate this issue12:14
david-lyleI'd like to hold on this bp and let tsufiev look into glance tasks, the proposal to be CORS and clientside based seems fairly restrictive at this point12:15
tsufievdavid-lyle, sure, makes sense12:16
david-lyle#info moved https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-glance-large-image-upload to discussion12:16
david-lyle#topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-large-ldap-users-browsing12:17
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tsufievso the next one is also mine12:17
tsufievthere are some things blocking us at Keystone side, but first I'd like to evaluate how sane does the proposed workflow look to you at Horizon side12:18
doug-fishit looks very reasonable to me12:18
tsufievKeystone limitations for LDAP force us to restrict the amount of table contents by filtering query (no query = no content)12:19
doug-fishIMO having an unfiltered list with thousands of users seems very close to useless12:19
tsufievyeah, that's an exact thing we've been talking internally12:20
mrungedoug-fish, esp. since AD gives you all kinds of errors with more than 500(?) users in resultset12:20
david-lylein horizon it is12:20
tsufievperhaps that pattern should be generalized for other Horizon tables?12:20
david-lyleI wanted to index it for Searchlight12:20
mrungeoh, pop corn!12:20
tsufievalso I wanted to understand how well this workflow aligns with tables angularization12:20
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robcresswelltsufiev: Out of curiosity, what is the default display, an empty table?12:20
david-lyleand get much faster queries12:20
tsufievdavid-lyle, there was a concern that nobody is going to allow SearchLight to index LDAP users due to security implications, corporate policies etc12:21
mrungetsufiev, I think it's a bit unexpected, if you don't get results, if no filter selected12:21
mrungeyes, tsufiev exactly12:21
robcresswellYeah, you won't get much angular input at this meeting time unfortunately12:21
tsufievrobcresswell, perhaps a table with a message 'Provide a query'?12:21
david-lyletsufiev: think is I may be able to indirectly12:21
doug-fishdavid-lyle: would searchlight indexing (if you could do it) mean you'd want to show all of the users in an initial table?12:21
robcresswelltsufiev: Seems sane to me.12:22
mrungepumping users from one database to another just to enable searching is braindead12:22
david-lylemrunge: not if you care about performance12:22
robcresswelltsufiev: I suppose you'd need some call to see what number you're dealing with, then alter behaviour; if you had 100 users, you may as well just show them all12:22
mrungedavid-lyle, I agree, it's faster. but why don't you upload users then directly to memcached?12:23
david-lyledoug-fish: I don't see a reason to list them all no12:23
tsufievrobcresswell, yes, makes sense. I'll add this notion to the bp12:23
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doug-fishmaybe the same idea applies of there are more than 100 objects in any table12:23
tsufievmrunge, 'One of the hardest programming problems is cache invalidation' :)12:23
mrungetsufiev, sure. applies to searchlight, too12:24
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david-lylemrunge: definitely applies to searchlight, and ldap doesn't post events to the bus on update12:24
doug-fishOTOH the list of users is probably reasonably static12:25
david-lylewell let's ignore searchlight12:25
mrungeso, the main issue is, ldap doesn't provide the required api we'd need12:25
david-lyleI'm just stating why I wanted the exhaustive list12:25
tsufievdo I understand correctly that a) the proposed workflow seems reasonable to most of us here b) need to ask Angular folks how well is it aligned with table angularization12:25
david-lyletsufiev: yes12:26
tsufievokay, then I'm going to start the next round of convincing Keystone community which seems to be hardest battle ever12:26
tsufiev:/12:26
david-lyleand that should work with the magicsearch implementation going into the angularized user's table12:26
doug-fishtsufiev: what are the needs from keystone?12:27
tsufievdavid-lyle,  filtering + limit number of pages?12:27
david-lyletsufiev: with you proposal, what do you have to convince them of?12:27
doug-fishit doesn't support filters?12:27
tsufievdavid-lyle, doug-fish: I need to convince them that pagination for LDAP could be supported solely at Keystone side, by taking the whole chunk of users from LDAP and throwing away the ones not needed according to API request parameters12:28
mrungetsufiev, how does that work with AD backend?12:28
mrungeI mean, it doesn't12:28
tsufievgiven that we limit the size of this chunk thanks to filters, the overhead should be smaller than it was seen before12:28
mrungeand I'm a bit worried with performance12:29
david-lyletsufiev: I thought your proposal was: don't show data unless filtered, if too much data, show initial results and instruct to filter more12:29
mrungetsufiev, it looks like you're trying to solve an unsolvable problem12:29
tsufievdavid-lyle, yes, exactly12:30
doug-fishmrunge: isn't AD pretty much the same as LDAP? your question confuses me12:30
tsufievmrunge, it's the only kind of problems that's worth solving12:30
david-lylethat should work as is12:30
mrungedoug-fish, AD returns smaller result sets, like 100 users at max12:30
mrungewhere ldap gives you 1000 (?)12:30
tsufievdavid-lyle, if too much data, either show initial results, or show no results at all - still have to decide12:31
doug-fishoh I see12:31
mrungeI mean, 100, 1000, that's just numbers12:31
tsufievthe final choice is affected both by UX considerations and Keystone/LDAP limitations12:31
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doug-fishMaybe it's wise to get UX team input on this? (which would obviously take time)12:32
tsufievmrunge, I'm starting to understand Keystone folks' reluctance to give it (cause LDAP implementations are quite different)12:32
robcresswelltsufiev: What does keystone currently do if your query is too general? Return initial 500, or just return 0?12:32
tsufievrobcresswell, I'd vote for first option, but we may make this configurable12:33
tsufievdoug-fish, yes, I'll ask Piet about that12:33
robcresswelltsufiev: No I mean, what is the *current* behaviour12:33
robcresswellI'm getting confused over how keystone currently handles requests of this nmature12:34
robcresswellnature*12:34
david-lyleI think we target current keystone ldap behavior, whatever it is. question is if that differs from a DB backed keystone12:34
david-lyleand if we change behavior then12:34
tsufievrobcresswell, it just handles all the results to Horizon, and if there are too many Horizon is choked12:34
robcresswelltsufiev: I see12:35
tsufievdavid-lyle, there is no pagination capabilities in Keystone v3 and that's a problem needed to be solved first12:35
amotokino upper limit on the number of results returned from keystone?12:35
tsufiev(since most likely we're going to use v3)12:36
david-lyletsufiev: I know no pagination in v3, my question is if ldap returns first 500 and error like the DB request would12:36
david-lyleif your API result limit is 50012:37
tsufievdavid-lyle, we're currently investigating its behavior on scale12:38
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amotokias an operator perspective, we cannot handle more than 100 users without filtering (e.g. project, role, last updated date, e-mail address or and so on). user name is less helpful unless we no exact user name.12:39
tsufievamotoki, so the point here is that we need faceted search at Identity->Users?12:40
amotokii think this is similar to what keystone folks replied in the dev ML.12:40
pkarikhdavid-lyle: hi! I'm working on it. I've found few Keystone issues and haven't got feedback about it from keystone team. Looks like sometimes keystone just becomes too slow and Horizon breaks with request time out12:40
amotokitsufiev: one possible option I think12:40
-amotoki- is googling whta is "faceted"12:41
david-lyleparameterized search12:41
tsufievamotoki, IIUC, that's how filtering is implemented on Instances page, but in a generalized form12:41
david-lyleselecting the filters in the search bar12:42
amotokiunderstood now.12:42
amotokitsufiev: agree. this is what I think.12:42
david-lyletsufiev: I think everyone agrees in principle, just need a few more details ironed out12:43
tsufievdavid-lyle, okay, we're continuing our study then :)12:43
mrungethank you tsufiev12:44
david-lyle#info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-large-ldap-users-browsing moved to drafting and targeting Mitaka12:44
tsufievso the summary is a). Contact UX people b). Compare DB storage response and LDAP storage response on large chunks of return data c). Continue working out Keystone API changes12:44
david-lylebtw the Mitaka target shows up now :)12:44
tsufievdid I miss anything?12:45
tsufievah, and d) Prefer faceted search for limiting table contents12:45
mrungewould be great, if we don't need to care about keystone backend12:46
mrungebut maybe that's too unrealistic12:46
tsufievI'm afraid we'll have to :)12:46
mrungewhy do we have keystone in this case?12:46
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* tsufiev shrugs12:47
david-lyleprojects and roles12:47
doug-fishand we don't want AD/LDAP differences to be OUR problem!!12:47
mrungeyes doug-fish !12:48
david-lyleany other bps to discuss today?12:49
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robcresswellI unfortunately didn't have time to prepare a list this week12:50
robcresswellsorry :(12:50
david-lyleno worries12:51
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mrungea quick one? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/node-management-ui12:52
mrungeI believe, that's outdated and nobody is working on that12:52
david-lyle#topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/node-management-ui12:52
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mrungeproposed patches are abandoned12:53
david-lyleI think the baremetal driver provides what horizon needs in this case to just use the instances panel12:54
robcresswellYeah, agreed I think mrunge12:55
david-lyle*nova driver12:55
david-lyle#info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/node-management-ui marked obsolete12:55
-amotoki- am surprised so many BPs and bugs are targeted to 'next'12:56
david-lylehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/login-workflow-restructure is one I think we should just drop12:57
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david-lyleamotoki: hence our cleanup effort12:57
robcresswelldavid-lyle: Agreed12:57
david-lylelong ways to go12:57
amotokiagree12:57
mrungeagreed david-lyle12:57
david-lyle#info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/login-workflow-restructure marked obsolete12:58
mrungea last one? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-container-only-management-panel-for-object-storage12:58
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robcresswellLol, wow. Yep12:59
mrungestill drafting, no movement since 201312:59
tsufievthat's a call for UX prototyping12:59
doug-fish:-) drop it!12:59
david-lyleThe need is real, but no one is looking at container related work, no matter how bad the existing UI is13:00
david-lyleI'm ok with dropping13:00
mrungeif somehow overlaps with the bug zigo filed yesterday: horizon doesn't work without nova installed13:00
mrungedansmith, yes, I agree. there are folks installing only swift, nothing else13:00
tsufievmrunge, you mean the people who just install Horizon for Swift?13:00
zigomrunge: It does, just in *one* screen it doesn't.13:00
doug-fishmrunge: do you happen to have the link for that bug?13:00
mrungesorry dansmith , I meand david-lyle13:01
doug-fishI might have an out-of-date patch to address it13:01
zigoEverywhere else, there's just an error message.13:01
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mrungezigo, do you have that bug handy?13:01
mrungetsufiev, yes, exactly.13:01
tsufievI think the only hard requirement for Horizon is Keystone13:01
david-lyle#info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-container-only-management-panel-for-object-storage marked obsolete, still very much needed, but more design work necessary13:02
mrungetsufiev, for swift, you don't need keystone.13:02
tsufievmrunge, you've just ruined my picture of the world :o13:02
david-lyletime's up. thanks everyone13:02
mrungeand if you use swift with horizon, your users need to have a special hardcoded role13:02
mrungetsufiev, ^^13:02
david-lyle#endmeeting13:02
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tsufievthanks for the discussion!13:03
mrungethank you all13:03
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rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 23 15:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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rhochmuthroll call15:00
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rhochmuthAgenda looks a little light today at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda15:01
rhochmuth1.Review Gerrit bugs15:01
rhochmuth1.Need more folks contributing to reviews15:01
rhochmuth2.Update on DevStack15:01
rhochmuth3.Update on Tempest Tests15:01
rhochmuthAre there other items to discuss15:01
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rhochmuthHow about an update on performance from TWC15:01
ddieterlyo/15:01
rhochmuthas well as Grafana15:01
bkleisure we can do that15:01
fabiogI also have an update on Ceilosca15:02
rhochmuthis anyone attending from fujitsu?15:02
rhochmuthok, let's talk about ceilosca too15:02
bkleican we add timing of next tagging of monasca-agent and pub to pypi?15:02
witekyes, but I have to leave earlier15:02
rhochmuthok, we'll discuss agent tags too15:04
rhochmuth#topic reviews15:04
rhochmuthOne area I want to get help on is more reviews15:04
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bkleiare people getting added to reviews, but not reviewing?15:04
witeki think, i could help a bit15:04
rhochmuththere are a bunch of reviews that I've +1'd, but have been just sitting for a couple of days15:05
rhochmuthi would like to see the code flowing15:05
bkleitwc can be better too15:05
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rhochmuthin the old days, i would just +2 things, but it align with the overall process better we need multiple companies one each review commit15:06
bkleiagree15:06
ddieterlyi think we also needed automated tests15:06
rhochmuthideally, a company shouldn't be +2 their own work, but we're not quite there yet15:06
ddieterlywe just don't have enough tests to feel confident in submittals15:06
rhochmuthbut we have to move in that direction15:06
fabiogddieterly: +1 Every patch should have unit test15:06
ddieterlyi'd also like to see integration tests15:07
rhochmuthddieterly: so the integratino tests is what i'm working on15:07
rhochmuthright?15:07
rhochmuththat is what tempest tests are for15:08
ddieterlyyea, not sure how much coverage we have on those15:08
rhochmuthwell, i think coverage will be good at the API syntactic level15:08
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rhochmuthand basic functionality15:09
ddieterlydo the tempest tests use a 'real' db?15:09
rhochmuthyes, they do15:09
rhochmuthtempest uses the API15:09
rhochmuththey are written against the Monasca API15:09
ddieterlycool15:09
rhochmuthso, getting back to reviews, just need more help in that area15:10
rhochmuthwitek, are all of tomasz's reviews then ready to get committed?15:10
witeki will take a look at them again15:10
rhochmuthhe has about 5 or 6 reviews sittign in the queue,15:11
rhochmuththanks15:11
rhochmuthsorry about the speed, we actually test each commit prior to +215:11
rhochmuththat is the theory15:11
rhochmuthso the turn-aroudn time can be gated by testing15:11
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rhochmuthhopefully, when we have tempest tests up and running this will be automated15:11
rhochmuthso, we'll have a little more confidence15:12
bklei+1 on that15:12
fabiogrhochmuth: in the meantime can you please post a comment when the tests have been done and were successful?15:12
ddieterlyare we going to require tempest tests for each patch?15:12
rhochmuth#topic devstack15:12
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fabiogrhochmuth: I think this will give more confidence to the other reviewers that the patch works15:12
rhochmuthsorry, i changed topics15:12
fabiognp15:12
witek#help Help is needed on reviews15:12
rhochmuthddieterly i think i need to get the first round of tempest tests done and integrated15:13
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rhochmuththen we can hopefully have a process where each feature has tests written againt it15:13
rhochmuthso, i think the answer is yes15:13
ddieterly+115:13
jimbaker+115:14
ddieterlywhat is the eta on the tempest stuff?15:14
rhochmuthi'm going to try and have some code up for review this week15:14
rhochmuthi have tests for metrics and alarm definitions complete15:14
rhochmuthwill work through the rests of the API15:14
rhochmuthactually, i don't think everyhting will be done this week15:14
rhochmuthbut it will be a good start and time to merge and get feedback15:15
rhochmuth#topic devstack15:15
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rhochmuthhow is devstack going?15:15
ddieterlyok, i'm in the process of converting all the ansible to bash in monasca-api/devstack15:15
ddieterlyhope to have a complete monasca deployment in devstack in 2-3 weeks15:16
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rhochmuthsounds exciting15:16
ddieterlyvery15:16
rhochmuth:-)15:16
rhochmuthso, you've put some reviews up15:16
ddieterlyyea, already have15:17
fabiogcan you post it please?15:17
rhochmuth#fabiog #ddieterly was asking about using ansible15:17
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rhochmuthi said can't do that15:17
Matthias_Christiwhat is the reason to convert ansible to bash ?15:18
rhochmuthhas to be independent of any deployment tool15:18
ddieterlyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Deklan+Dieterly%22+status:merged,n,z15:18
rhochmuth#Matthias_Christi i think the problem is they don't want Ansible in Devstack15:18
ddieterlyMatthias_Christi: it is the devstack way15:18
rhochmuth#fabiog is that your understanding15:19
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ddieterlybash is the linqua franca of devstack15:19
jimbakerfor better or for worse...15:19
ddieterlyyea, c'est la geurre15:20
fabiogrhochmuth: yep15:20
rhochmuthso, basically 2-3 weeks on devstack, then we'll move onto ci/cd integration15:20
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rhochmuthok, next topic?15:20
ddieterlyhopefully15:21
rhochmuthwe discussed the tempest tests already15:21
rhochmuthso i'll move to performance update15:21
rhochmuth#performance15:21
rhochmuth#topic performance15:21
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bkleithat's me15:21
rhochmuthyes15:21
bkleiwas out last week, in a conf this week, so not much movement, but15:22
bkleivertica has agreed current perf is a bug15:22
rhochmuthawesome!15:22
bkleino fix yet15:22
rhochmuthdo they have an eta15:22
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bkleithe bug is when 10 or so queries are in parallel15:23
bkleino eta yet, pushing them on that15:23
rhochmuthwhat do you mean by 10 queries in parallel15:23
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bkleiasking them to back port to the current version (hot fix), instead of waiting for Q4 major release15:23
bkleiyes, 10 queries in parellel goes into the toilet15:23
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ddieterlythat explains our puzzlement over the performance at least15:24
rhochmuthomg15:24
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bkleiso, i'm waiting on other projection work, until that's fixed15:24
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bklei(pre-join queries, schema change...)15:24
rhochmuthyour review is sitting up there, should we wait on that15:24
fabiogbklei: wow! and no customers found that before ?15:24
bkleiexactly ddieterly15:24
rhochmuththat switches from inner joins to ...15:24
bkleiapparently there is one other big customer.  but boo on their testing15:25
rhochmuthshould we wait on that15:25
ddieterlyi'm surprised that vertica had this bug15:25
ddieterlykinda serious15:25
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ddieterlythe vertica luster has been dulled a bit15:25
rhochmuthalso, would limiting the concurrency to <10 be a work-around15:25
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rhochmuthdoesnt' sound like a good idea, but maybe it is faster15:26
bkleithe bug# is  VER-4000515:26
bklei"Time in plan is high when 10+ queries are run concurrently on 3 node cluster"15:26
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bkleibut the engineer thinks it's beyond just a 3 node cluster15:27
bkleianyhoo, not much more to say on that till i get an eta15:27
bkleiwill pressure them15:27
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rhochmuthdo you want your review for inner join conversion to just wait then15:27
bkleilet's wait, not sure it's necessary, may be working around their bug15:28
rhochmuthok15:28
bkleithx though15:28
rhochmuth#bklei thanks for working through this15:28
bkleiit wasn't a dramatically better improvement15:28
bkleisure15:28
ddieterlyi think we should still make the change because it is much simpler to implement and reaon about15:29
rhochmuthnice to know we know how to code and that the bug was in Vertica15:29
ddieterlywe just need to make the change globally15:29
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bkleii'm not opposed to the change #ddieterly, just want a bug fix in vertica before spending much time on tweaking stuff above it15:30
ddieterlyyea, understood15:30
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rhochmuthso let's see how fast vertica can respond15:31
rhochmuthand then we can measure again with fixes hopeflly15:31
rhochmuthand then switch to new code15:31
bkleiagreed, hope to have better info next week15:31
rhochmuthok, cool15:31
bkleiyup15:31
rhochmuth#topic grafana15:31
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rhochmuthrbak was adding support to Grafana 2.015:32
rhochmuth#bklei do you know how that is progressing?15:32
bkleirbak is sort of here, but in a conf with me -- he's made some progress15:32
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rhochmuthok15:32
bkleimore investigation, no eta or idea of the quantity of work yet.15:32
rhochmuthok15:32
bkleibut it's sexy, and i'm confident he'll get it done15:32
rhochmuthsexy15:33
bkleitemplates are awesome15:33
ddieterlybklei: really?15:33
rhochmuthok, we'll check back next week15:33
bkleivery cool, and it doesn't sound too difficult to add us as a proper 'data source'15:33
bkleiyup15:33
rhochmuth#topic ceilosca15:34
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rhochmuth#fabiog you are up15:34
ddieterlyfabiog: you there?15:35
ddieterlycrickets15:35
fabiogrhochmuth: sorry15:35
fabiogok, so we have started to do tests with Ceilosca15:35
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fabiogand what we found is that Influlx 0.9.1 suffers all sort of issues15:35
fabiogit times out with the Persister15:36
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bklei:(15:36
fabiogand it prevents to store large amounts of data15:36
fabiogbut when we updated to 0.9.4.1 it worked really well15:36
fabiogand we didn't have to change a single line of code or configuration15:36
rhochmuthproblem solved :-)15:36
rhochmuthare we done15:36
fabiogjust switched the package15:36
ddieterlyfabiog: did you have a chance to test the api end points with 9.4?15:36
fabiogrhochmuth: kind of15:36
ddieterlyi'm concerned that the api might be broken with 9.415:37
fabiogddieterly: yes, because the ceilometer call in returns call the monasca API15:37
rhochmuthso, there were changes i thoguht in .9.3 that were incompatible with .9.115:37
fabiogand we get data back15:37
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rhochmuth#bmotz was looking at this15:37
ddieterlywe need to check all the functionality of the end points15:37
fabiogso I would like to see the mini-mon installation to be upgraded to use 0.9.4.115:38
fabiogwould that be possible?15:38
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ddieterlyfabiog: go for it15:38
rhochmuthi don't have a problem updating15:38
fabiogddieterly: ok, so I will try to figure out what and where to change and I will submit a patch15:38
rhochmuthjust have to address any issues that occur15:38
rhochmuthinfluxdb keeps changing their api, even though they are supposed to be frozen15:38
ddieterlyit is a very simple change in the ansible vars15:39
rhochmuthyeah, so the change in Ansible is trivial15:39
ddieterlythe problem is finding all the problems15:39
ddieterlygoes back to comprehensive integration tests15:39
rhochmuth#bmotz isn't here today, but you might contact directly to see what he might have uncovered15:39
fabiogddieterly: right. In the ceilosca case seems to work fine, so if there are bugs are not major15:40
rhochmuthhe was also looking at swithching from http to binary protocol15:40
fabiogddieterly: meaning stop working15:40
fabiogrhochmuth: ok, I will get in touch with bmotz15:40
rhochmuththx15:40
ddieterlydoes cceilosca exercise a good portion of the api?15:41
rhochmuthif it is all working, then let's switch15:41
rhochmuthwe can also help to get some testing here15:41
rhochmuthpossibly15:41
fabiogddieterly: pretty much queries with dimensions15:41
rhochmuthi'll need to coordinate with our test team15:41
fabiogddieterly: and post of new measurements15:41
ddieterlyalarm history, metrics, measurements, statistics15:41
fabiogddieterly: no alarm history or anything related to alarms15:41
fabiogthe rest yes15:42
ddieterlymerge-metrics flag, all parameters, etc15:42
rhochmuthpagination15:42
fabiogddieterly: probably not all15:42
ddieterlyoh, yea!15:42
fabiogand definitely not pagination15:42
ddieterlyhow in the world did i forget that one15:42
rhochmuthwhat, how can you forget paginatino15:42
rhochmuthsorry, inside joke15:42
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rhochmuth#fabiog so i think plan to to upgrade15:43
rhochmuthcheck with ben motz at cray15:44
rhochmuthwe'll need to get some testing done15:44
rhochmuthto validate completely15:44
fabiogrhochmuth: I will send an email in the mailing list asking him for issues15:44
rhochmuththx15:44
fabiogbut 0.9.4.1 is a huge step forward in performance15:44
rhochmuthawesome!15:45
bklei+115:45
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ddieterlyyou might want to ask the influxdb guys if there is any compatibility issues that they know of15:45
rhochmuthsounds like they are finally getting the streamign raft stuff done15:45
rhochmuth#ddieterly can you send an email and cc folks15:45
ddieterlysure15:45
rhochmuththx15:45
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rhochmuth#fabiog wnat are you seeing in performance15:46
rhochmuthwith the latests influxdb15:46
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fabiogrhochmuth: I see that Ceilosca is around 30/40% faster15:46
fabiogrhochmuth: and it seems that is getting better when the data set is bigger15:46
fabiogwhich is what I was expecting15:47
rhochmuthcool15:47
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fabiogright now we are doing a sort of worst case scenario test15:47
fabioglike we are doing open ended query of get samples with 1M measurements15:47
fabiogso we need to switch to CURL instead of cello client15:47
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fabiogbecause the client times out15:48
fabiogbut up to 750K the client worked15:48
fabiogin both cases15:48
fabiogand in both cases failed at 1M15:48
rhochmuthhow is ceilosca comparing to native ceilometer15:48
rhochmuthwith the latests influxdb15:48
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fabiogmy preliminary estimates is that is between 30 to 40% faster15:48
rhochmuthnice15:49
fabiogbut I think the real advantage will be in the amount of data we can store in Ceilosca compared to Ceilometer15:49
rhochmuthi would like to understand the tests and how that maps onto the overall system too15:49
fabiogI want to test with 10M measurements and see what happens15:49
fabiogI think Ceilometer will fail15:49
rhochmuth10M is small15:49
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fabiogright but we could not get Ceilo to work with more than 6M in the past15:50
rhochmuthohhh15:50
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fabioglet's see15:50
fabiogthe other thing I am not so sure is that Rally is really representative of the tests15:50
fabiogI had strange results with it15:51
fabiogso maybe we will use 10 runs using curl instead15:51
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fabiogit will be definitely more work but the results are more realistic15:51
fabiogit will be undoubtedly the time a client will take to receive the data15:51
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fabiogbklei: how much data you have in Monasca in prod?15:52
fabiogbklei: just to have an idea of a real prod env15:52
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fabiogso I can try to emulate that15:53
bkleiwe've got around maybe 5 months of data, in vertica terms, getting close to 1TB15:53
fabiogbklei: but in terms of measurements per metric15:53
fabiogis 1M, 10M, 100K ...15:53
bkleii can get that to you, don't know off the top of my head15:54
fabiogbklei: I would appreciate that15:54
fabiogthanks15:54
bkleisure, will get u some #'s later today15:54
bkleinp15:54
rhochmuthok, 5 minutes left15:54
rhochmuthshould we continue with ceilosca or any other topics, or close15:54
fabiogI am done unless there are questions15:55
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bkleii just want to plug a couple of libvirt plugin patches15:55
rhochmuthno further questions your honor15:55
fabiogrhochmuth: we need to start talking about summit topics and sessions15:55
fabiogagenda for next week, I guess15:55
rhochmuthwe don't have any summit session15:55
rhochmuthi think it will be hard to get, as they are over-booked and we aren't a openstack project yet15:56
fabiogok15:56
rhochmuthbut, we could reach out to other teams on various topics15:56
fabiogyes, I want to talk to the Congress guys15:56
rhochmuththere was some areas with the ceilometer team, such as alarming and componentization15:57
rhochmuthYes, Congress was the other one that comes to mind15:57
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rhochmuthThere has been work in adding autoc-scaling to heat for MOnasca15:57
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rhochmuthI'll be getting an update on that tomorrow15:57
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rhochmuthDo you want me to contact Congress?15:57
fabiogrhochmuth: sure I'll do that15:58
bkleiMaaS is our big priority at TWC, and so we're very focused on libvirt plugin -- would like to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225337/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226405/ in soon and the agent tagged...15:58
rhochmuth#bklei ok, i've given a +1 to one of those i believe15:58
rhochmuthif others can review that would be great15:59
bkleipor favor15:59
rhochmuthas soon as merged i can tag15:59
bklei+1!!15:59
bkleithx15:59
rhochmuthi was hoping david schroeder at hp could take a look15:59
rhochmuthnot sure he was around this week15:59
bkleime too, it's his baby15:59
rhochmuthbut will try and ping him15:59
bkleithx15:59
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rhochmuthok, coming to an end16:00
rhochmuththanks everyone16:00
ddieterlyciao!16:00
bkleithx #rhochmuth16:00
rhochmuth#endmeeting16:00
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alaski#startmeeting nova_cells17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 23 17:00:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells'17:00
alaskianyone around today?17:00
melwitto/17:00
alaskithis'll probably be quick then17:01
melwitthaha, yeah17:01
melwittbauzas?17:01
alaski#topic open discussion17:01
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alaskiwe'll just do open discussion today17:01
bauzas\o17:01
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* bauzas was just dinnering, so quick there :)17:02
alaskiwe'll be looking at specs again soon, so start thinking about any you may want to put together or work on17:02
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bauzasalaski: I'd like to see some discussion around a parallel scheduler for Mitaka17:02
alaskiwhat do you mean by parallel?17:03
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bauzasalaski: scaling out17:03
bauzasalaski: tbc, just a discussion17:04
alaskiokay17:04
alaskisure17:04
melwittI thought I had read something about how devstack wasn't set up to create new cells tables or something? did that get resolved or needs to be done?17:04
bauzasmelwitt: I thought it was done17:04
alaskiit is done17:04
bauzasmelwitt: but not there for Kilo devstack17:04
melwittbauzas: okay, cool17:04
bauzasmelwitt: hence the grenade problem17:04
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alaskiyeah, grenade was the issue17:04
melwittI've been out of the loop for awhile and was just curious what's the state of trying to use devstack to try out things with cells v217:05
alaskibut now that grenade will switch to L->M it won't be an issue17:05
bauzasmelwitt: so, dansmith made a good homework for that, but it was merged by Liberty17:05
alaskimelwitt: devstack runs the nova_api migrations, and configures the connection string.  but does nothing else17:05
alaskisince there's nothing else to do really17:06
bauzas:)17:06
bauzasalaski: more than just discussing about concurrent schedulers, what do you would like to get for Mitaka ?17:06
bauzasalaski: do you want to have a session for cells ?17:07
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alaskimy main focus is going to be reworking the build process to write instance data into nova_api and then schedule and create an instnace in a cell17:07
alaskiso reworking build_instances again17:07
vineetmenono/17:07
bauzasalaski: okay, do you think it's worth proposing for https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MZVwxv8t6sM15Kct5i7yOS-8-NCvqsW742s5Y_LDyjg/edit#gid=816860825 ?17:07
alaskibauzas: my hesitation is that I'm not going to be at the summit :(17:08
bauzasalaski: oh... okay17:08
alaskiotherwise I would love to discuss it17:08
bauzasah yeah, right17:08
bauzasI know why and I guess it's acceptable :p17:08
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alaskiheh17:09
alaskithat brings up another thing I wanted to mention.  at some time in the near future I'm going to be out for a few weeks17:09
alaskidoes anyone want to run the meeting?17:09
* bauzas rolls out his eyes to melwitt17:09
alaskiheh17:09
alaskior we can skip since I should be back right before the summit17:09
alaskiand we could continue then17:09
melwitthaha :) I don't mind running it, but lately I haven't had anything to contribute unfortunately. so as long as other people have stuff to talk about, I can run it17:10
bauzaswell, I guess we could see if any discussion is needed17:11
alaskiyeah17:12
vineetmenon+117:12
alaskithere may be more to discuss once specs go up17:12
alaskibut you could play it by ear17:12
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bauzassure thing, let's see later on17:12
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alaskiwhile I'm out I'm going to try to write up lots and lots of docs on cells v217:14
alaskiand some specs17:14
alaskiand as always comments/questions/criticism will be appreciated17:14
melwittcool17:15
bauzasfine by me17:15
alaskibesides the build instance workflow my other big goal for next cycle is to get information out and written down.  I want to make it easy for people to understand what's happening and get involved17:16
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bauzasI saw also belmoreira and the CERN guys having some issues with the Flavor change17:16
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alaskibauzas: yeah.  I provided lalit an example to follow and haven't heard more17:17
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alaskioh17:17
alaskihttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-LDT-cells-patches was brought up a day or two ago17:18
alaskiI'm expecting a little more review load for cells changes coming up17:18
bauzasalaski: yep, that was my 2nd point to mention17:18
melwittI have been meaning to play around with devstack and see if I can use my db connection switching patch along with a conductor-scheduler flow17:18
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alaskimelwitt: that would be awesome17:18
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alaskimelwitt: let me know if I can help on that17:20
alaskianything else to discuss today?17:20
alaskiwhat should I put as the next meeting in the wiki?17:21
alaskitwo weeks from now, or after summit?17:21
bauzasso, Mitaka is opening now17:21
bauzasI guess 2 weeks from now is a resonable timeslot17:21
alaskiokay17:22
bauzasbecause we could see whether we need to provide something at the summit or no17:22
alaskiI'll put it as that, and it can be short if nothing comes up17:22
bauzasbut we can keep the cells talk to Friday17:22
alaskibauzas: you and melwitt can fight about who gets to run it :)17:22
melwittheh :)17:22
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bauzasI'm a gentleman :p17:23
alaski:)17:23
alaskicool, if nothing else...17:23
alaski#endmeeting17:23
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bauzasthanks17:23
alaskithanks all!17:23
vineetmenonbye17:23
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melwittthanks o/17:24
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badvelihello all18:29
SridarKhi all18:29
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hoangcxHi SridarK and all18:29
xgermanhi18:30
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vishwanathjhello18:30
davidlenwello/18:30
mickeysHi18:30
sc68calhi all18:31
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madhu_akhi18:31
sc68cal#startmeeting networking_fwaas18:31
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 23 18:31:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:31
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sc68cal#chair SridarK xgerman18:31
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK sc68cal xgerman18:31
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sc68cal#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS Meeting agenda18:32
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sc68cal#info No action items from the previous meeting18:32
njohnstono/18:32
sc68cal#topic Bugs18:32
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sc68calHave a new handy link for the bug tracking URL, for the meeting18:32
sc68cal#link https://goo.gl/5h3elO FwaaS Bugs18:33
sc68calLooks like there has been some activity on a couple bugs mentioned last week18:34
sc68calhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149624418:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1496244 in neutron "rule change via GUI/CLI puts FW in ERROR mode" [Undecided,New]18:34
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sc68callast comment from someone indicates reproduction of the bug18:34
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sc68calthat one sounds pretty serious, is anyone investigating?18:35
SridarKsc68cal: this could be that we may just need latest code18:35
SridarKi think there was a fix and also a backport to kilo18:35
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xgermancan we reference that in the LP?18:36
sc68cal^ +118:36
SridarKthe earlier comment on the bug indicates that they could not see it18:36
sc68calif we can, find the fix and backport and link 1496244 as a duplicate18:36
SridarKbut needs evaluation for sure18:37
SridarKlet me take the action18:37
sc68cal#action SridarK follow up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149624418:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1496244 in neutron "rule change via GUI/CLI puts FW in ERROR mode" [Undecided,New]18:37
sc68calhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1496239 was fixed recently, so that's easy :)18:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1496239 in neutron "neutron-fwaas check_migartion fails" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki)18:38
sc68calprops to amotoki!18:38
SridarK+118:38
sc68calSridarK: looks like you're already assigned to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1492142 and that one looks hairy, so IMO steady as she goes on that18:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1492142 in neutron "FWaaS: FIP namespace created after/before Firewall creation doesn't contain FW rules" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sridar Kandaswamy (skandasw)18:38
sc68calSridarK: unless you have anything to share18:39
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SridarKsc68cal: yes i think i know the issue18:39
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SridarKwith the refactor on l3 agent - i think we are missing a kick to fw in the fip ns setup18:39
SridarKi am a bit consumed on the day job - i have not been able to confirm the fix18:40
SridarKbut in general in this regard, we should really move to the observer hierarchy that l3 agent folks have moved to18:40
SridarKearlier since we did not have a way of listening to notifications, we had to add code in l3agent18:41
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sc68calSridarK: ack. If you can put a comment to that effect, that sounds good to me. I think that's a good place to start18:41
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SridarKi owe bharathm an explanation also on this18:41
SridarKsc68cal: will do18:41
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sc68calSort of on a similar note - at the QA sprint there was some discussion about circular dependencies and the fwaas-l3agent interaction came up.18:42
badveli     sridark: we still have that code in edge router and local router18:42
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badvelifor snat name and IR18:42
bharathmSridarK: I couldn't get enough time to look into that bug either.. But I can now..18:42
sc68cal#link https://review.openstack.org/223343 Decoupling L3 agent and fwaas code18:42
SridarKbadveli: yes u are correct but it is not there for fip18:42
badveliare you adding the same to Fip name space or moving to observer18:43
SridarKsc68cal: yes this clean up is needed18:43
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SridarKnow that l3 agent has been refactored18:44
SridarKsc68cal: will add this to our list of things for M18:44
sc68calSridarK: yeah I haven't looked at the patch to see if carl_baldwin linked it to a bug18:44
SridarKbadveli: it seems it is best to move to observer hierarcy as pc_m has done for vpn18:45
xgerman+118:45
badveliyes we had this pending, thanks18:45
sc68calIf nobody objects, I'll make a rfe bug to track this and poke carl_baldwin to get him to his patch to it18:45
sc68calunless one already exists18:45
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* carl_baldwin just got poked.18:46
sc68cals/to get him to/to get him to link his/18:46
carl_baldwinNo, one doesn’t exist.18:46
SridarKsc68cal: we may need to clean up our end as well before carl_baldwin pulls the plug on us :-)18:46
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sc68calSridarK: agree - this one is going to take some work18:47
sc68cal#action sc68cal create RFE bug in LP to track L3 agent decoupling18:47
sc68calAny other bugs? or onward to BP tracking?18:48
SridarKsc68cal: there was an horizon issue but i think this was fixed18:48
SridarKatleast according to the notes on the bug18:48
sc68calhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1491637 ?18:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491637 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Error when adding a new Firewall Rule" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Rob Cresswell (robcresswell)18:49
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SridarKyes thats the one18:49
sc68calI think that one mentioned horizon and a recent commit fixing18:49
SridarKi could not verify that things are working but according to Rob we should be good18:49
SridarKvishwanathj: can i req u to do a quick check pls18:50
vishwanathjSridarK, is your request that I attempt to reproduce the issue with the latest devstack?18:51
SridarKvishwanathj: yes if u can and if there is an issue u can do a quick triage18:51
SridarKvishwanathj: hence the req to u in case we need a quick triage18:52
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vishwanathjSridarK, sure, I can attempt to repro with the reference firewall implementation......but it will have to by end of day tomorrow or sooner18:52
SridarKvishwanathj: that should be fine18:53
sc68cal#action vishwanathj try to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1491637 in devstack18:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491637 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Error when adding a new Firewall Rule" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Rob Cresswell (robcresswell)18:53
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sc68calvishwanathj: no rush, just report back by next week ;)18:53
vishwanathjsc68cal, thanks for the extra time, I will need that....18:53
vishwanathjI will share my update on the neutron-fwaas channel18:53
sc68calvishwanathj: no worries, and if you get stuck ping me since I have a devstack lab too and can assist18:53
sc68calanything else, or BP topic?18:54
SridarKsc68cal: nothing else from me18:54
sc68cal#topic Blueprint Tracking18:55
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sc68calSo, I think we need to work on a project plan for mitaka, just to collect all the things going on, in one place18:56
sc68calwhile also linking back to the stuff we've done to collect user stories, and the use cases we did at the SEA sprint18:56
xgerman+118:56
davidlenwell+118:57
xgermanI sugested we meet Monday before the Tokyo summit to hash things out18:57
SridarK+118:57
davidlenwellNew development and addressing the things in seattle are what peak my interest the most here.18:57
xgermansince the summit starts Tuesday'18:57
SwamiSridarK: is it going to be a personnel meeting or IRC18:58
davidlenwellwould think f2f right?18:58
SridarKSwami: at tokyo in person18:58
xgermanyep18:58
Swamiok, good.18:58
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badveli is there anyway we can have a go to meeting18:58
sc68calI think Monday is a good idea - but let's try and do as much as possible offline before, just so we can spend high bandwidth f2f time wisely18:59
xgerman+118:59
badveliso that remote people can attend18:59
SridarKsc68cal: +118:59
sc68calwhich also allows remote participation18:59
xgermanyep18:59
davidlenwell+118:59
jwarendt+118:59
sc68calSo, just spitballing, maybe we gather up everything that we're working on, in a wiki page or etherpad (don't care which)19:00
sc68caljust so we make sure nobody is left out in the cold.19:00
xgerman+119:00
davidlenwellagreed19:00
sc68calone may already exist, I just don't remember19:00
SridarK#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-fwaas-roadmap-mitaka-summit19:00
xgermanwell, we have the trello19:00
SridarKand yes on trello as well19:00
sc68calcool - that etherpad link is a good start19:01
davidlenwelltrello is good for keeping the issues orginized .. but etherpad is a better sounding board19:01
sc68caldavidlenwell: agree. I'm going to sit and think a bit about how to carry over what we did on the trello board19:02
sc68cali'll try and synthesize something before Tokyo from the trello board, and that etherpad - but basically just make sure if you have work you need/want to do, put it on the etherpad19:02
mickeysI took a pass at a first cut for the enhanced FWaaS API incorporating security groups functionality, and put it on the API evolution etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-api-evolution-spec19:03
sc68calmickeys: excellent!19:03
mickeysI have not yet tried to correlate to the Trello use cases, but it seems like that would be a good thing to do19:03
SridarKmickeys: +1 u have hit the essential points19:03
mickeysI hope this can generate some discussion on the etherpad. There is lots to talk about.19:04
xgerman+!19:04
xgerman+119:04
sc68cal+119:04
davidlenwell+! should be a new thing that means +1 but im really excited ;)19:04
SridarK:-)19:05
sc68calOK - looks like we've got a good starting point for collecting things, so we'll iterate on that etherpad. It looks pretty good imo19:06
sc68calthe roadmap one, specifically19:06
xgermanagreed — I was about to start something like that. Thanks mickeys!!19:06
SridarKsounds good and we can make sure the more specific etherpads are linked to the roadmap19:07
sc68cal++19:07
davidlenwellsounds good19:07
sc68calI just remembered one that I've failed to add - vendor decomposition. In SEA dougwig mentioned this, so I've added it to the roadmap19:08
sc68calnobody panic :)19:08
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sc68calunless there is anything else we can move to open discussion19:09
sc68cal#topic open discussion19:09
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xgermanM development is open: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226906/19:09
sc68calwoo!19:10
davidlenwellAkanda has asked me to make fwass more of a focus week to week.. So .. sorry in advance.. but ya'll are stuck with me ;)19:10
SridarKdavidlenwell: welcome to the party and pls bring some usecases with u :-)19:11
xgermanbeer?19:11
njohnstonI have filed an RFE for enhancing security groups to filter on DSCP tags, not sure if/how that affects your FWaaS API Evolution.  I am working on the spec now.   https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/149895719:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1498957 in neutron "Add a 'dscp' field to security group rules to screen ingress traffic by dscp tag as well as IP address" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Nate Johnston (nate-johnston)19:11
davidlenwellmm beer19:11
xgermanevery newcomer has to buy a round...19:11
davidlenwellxgerman: done19:11
SridarKsc68cal: the dscp field is a trip down memory lane :-)19:12
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sc68calSridarK: :)19:12
sc68calnjohnston: consult the following BP - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/security-groups-dscp-filter19:13
sc68calnjohnston: also, I don't think changing the security group API to accomodate arbitrary packet fields is feasible. Fits better in a Firewall as a Service API19:13
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njohnstonsc68cal: Thanks!  I'll take a look at those.19:15
xgermansc68cal guess we are done?19:18
sc68calnjohnston: good luck. SridarK and I can tell you allllllll the history behind that stuff19:18
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sc68calnjohnston: SridarK: I'll buy drinks :)19:18
SridarK:-)19:19
sc68calxgerman: suppose so19:19
sc68calok everyone - until next week. Tokyo approaches! Very excited to see everyone soon19:19
xgerman+!19:19
davidlenwell+119:19
SridarKok bye all19:19
sc68calremember, APAC friendly one is next week19:19
hoangcx+119:19
vichowardlater19:19
mickeysbye19:19
davidlenwelllol @ xgerman19:19
sc68cal#endmeeting19:19
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david-lyle#startmeeting Horizon20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 23 20:00:58 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:01
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lhchengo/20:01
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doug-fis_\o20:01
tsufievo/20:02
crobertsrhhello/20:02
tqtran[=_=]/20:02
rhagarty_\o20:02
david-lylehi everyone20:02
mrungeo/20:02
david-lylewe're trying to wrap up RC-120:03
barrettHi20:03
david-lyleall the FFEs are merged and we have ~8 bugs left on the list20:03
Piethallo20:03
david-lyle#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/liberty-rc120:03
david-lylewant to take a minute to assess those bugs and get status20:04
david-lyle#topic RC-1 bugs20:04
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doug-fis_https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1494819 isn't really a horizon bug - its a translation problem20:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494819 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Russian strings for Actions within Project->Instances page 'More Actions' dropdown are missing" [High,Confirmed]20:04
david-lyleok, so Horizon should not be targeting it for RC-1?20:05
doug-fis_nope - I've just marked it as invalid for Horizon20:05
david-lyleok, removed the milestone20:05
david-lylethanks doug-fis_20:05
doug-fis_sure np20:06
* david-lyle hopes the rest go that well20:06
david-lyle:)20:06
tsufievas likely as Keystone bends towards Horizon :)20:06
rhagarty_david-lyle, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222390/ needs to be classified. Pretty important to cinder20:06
david-lylerhagarty_: the API or the client?20:08
rhagarty_API20:08
david-lyleok20:09
david-lylemilestone added20:09
david-lyleone step forward/one step back20:09
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lhchengrhagarty_: LGTM as well, +A'd20:10
david-lyleno r1chardj03s?20:10
kzaitsev_mb.20:11
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david-lyleno idea if that's close without autocomplete20:11
rhagarty_lhcheng, thanks!20:11
david-lylethe selenium tests were working, then what happened?20:11
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* tsufiev has some updates about integration tests if anyone interested20:12
david-lylewhile I'd really like the selenium tests to be passing, it's not something to hold up the release on20:12
david-lylehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/147538720:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1475387 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "selenium tests are not running in gate and many are broken" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Jones (r1chardj0n3s)20:12
doug-fis_we lost our lazy_puppies?20:12
david-lyleremoved the milestone20:12
tsufievdoug-fis_, I think lazy/eager puppies were the bad idea from the beginning20:12
doug-fis_I think it confuses translators every release20:13
david-lyledon't blame the puppies20:13
tsufiev(since I wrote these tests)20:13
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tsufievokay, since nobody asked I'll tell it without invitation: screenshots are finally working for failed integration tests20:14
doug-fis_cool!20:14
david-lyletsufiev: trying to work through the bugs first, then celebration time20:14
david-lyle:P20:14
tsufievok )20:15
david-lylehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/148844320:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1488443 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Any action always cause error ( in kilo)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Jones (r1chardj0n3s)20:15
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mrungethat one is imho ready for merge20:15
mrungeI'm involved, I shouldn't review this patch20:15
mrungewe had user feedback, that it solves their issues20:16
david-lyleok, +2'd20:16
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doug-fis_+A ed20:16
* david-lyle feels weird having a Liberty RC blocker with Kilo in the title20:16
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lhchengmrunge: don't this need the encoding header too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216712/4/horizon/tables/actions.py20:17
mrungeagreed, it needs a backport to kilo20:17
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david-lylemoved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1483639 to mitaka20:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1483639 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Nova and Horizon allow inappropriate actions to be performed on baremetal nodes" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Zhenguo Niu (niu-zglinux)20:17
lhchengyou added the header to the other files but not to actions.py20:18
lhchengmrunge: doesn't that need a fix too before we merge20:18
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mrungelhcheng, we agreed, this is just a start20:18
mrungelhcheng, which header?20:18
mrungelike encoding?20:18
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lhcheng# encoding=utf-820:18
mrungethis was added to ensure utf coding in tests20:19
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tsufievotherwise it had to be written as u'20:19
tsufievu'20:20
tsufievouch\20:20
tsufievu'\u0123\u2442'20:20
tsufievsomething like that20:20
mrungetsufiev, that's ugly and really nobody can read it20:20
tsufievyep, I just explained20:21
mrungelhcheng, actions doesn't have any utf-8 string inside20:21
mrungetsufiev, got you, thanks20:21
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david-lyletsufiev: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1493998 ? I'm going to move to Mitaka, looks like there is a bit more work and non-imperative for Liberty20:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1493998 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Integration tests should use unicode characters in user-provided data" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Timur Sufiev (tsufiev-x)20:21
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lhchengmrunge: but some of the string are marked with "u/"20:21
tsufievdavid-lyle, agree, right now I don't have time to finish it20:21
david-lyleok, moved to M-120:22
david-lylelhcheng: looked like you made progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/django-openstack-auth/+bug/149111720:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491117 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Error when logging back in after timeout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Jones (r1chardj0n3s)20:22
mrungelhcheng, I just remember I had to make it explicit in tests by adding the encoding20:22
david-lyleso we'll leave that one for a bit longer20:22
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lhchengdavid-lyle: yeah, I've pinged doug about the patch20:23
david-lylehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1496627 has a partial, TravT is checking if it's sufficient20:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1496627 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "hz-magic-search-bar does not honor isServer property" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rajat Vig (rajatv)20:23
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david-lylebut probably not enough to block on20:23
lhchengthe patch hit a tox-validate issue, just had to rebase the g-r patch20:24
david-lylethanks lhcheng20:24
david-lylehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1415712 is the last one to talk about20:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1415712 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) ""Volumes" tab doesn't show up if cinder v1 isn't registered" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki)20:24
david-lyleI think it just needs a couple of reviews20:24
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david-lylewill look tonight, if others don't beat me to it20:24
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david-lyleok, RC bug list is down to 520:25
david-lyle2 in gate20:25
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david-lyle1 to be removed20:25
david-lyle1 is pending g-r merge20:26
david-lyle1 reviews required20:26
david-lylethat's on track for an end of the week RC20:26
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david-lyleonce we have the RC, we'll open master for Mitaka20:27
david-lyleand the translation team can work on final translations20:28
david-lyleso when RC-1 hits we'll have a string freeze20:28
david-lyleand only critical bug fixes will get backported to the release branch20:28
david-lyleany questions ?20:28
doug-fis_david-lyle: do the translations arrive in stable/liberty?20:29
doug-fis_I've never really noticed that before20:29
david-lyleto be clear, the string fix just applies to the release branch20:29
david-lyledoug-fis_: yes, or whatever the branch name is20:29
doug-fis_cool - I just didn't notice that before. Thanks.20:29
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david-lyletsufiev: did you have more details on the integration tests to share?20:31
* tsufiev looking for a link to share20:31
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PietFolks, I need to head to a doctor's appointment.  Can In interrupt for a second?20:32
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tsufievsure20:32
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david-lylesure20:32
PietNeed reviews on the system information panel and the LBaaS panels20:32
Piethttps://invis.io/N54B2H9Q220:32
Piethttps://invis.io/4K4B2IBU520:33
david-lyleI understand LBaaS need, why System Info?20:33
PietBlocking ThoughtWorks20:33
david-lylewhy are they working on it?20:33
david-lyleseems to be low priority20:33
david-lylePiet: probably not a question for you20:34
PietFor LBaaS, not the LBaaS panel and Details panel are not perfect from a visual design perspective, but looking for feedback on IA20:34
doug-fis_FWIW I've recently discovered that I care very deeply about LBaaS. I will need to make time to take a look.20:34
Pietdavid-lyle: What's that?20:34
david-lylePiet: the why20:35
PietOhhhh20:35
david-lyleok regardless, please help on the UX reviews20:35
david-lylemore feedback now, the better the starting point20:36
PietI'm trying to avoid having UX block THs dev efforts.20:36
ducttape_+1 for lbaas needing some work20:36
david-lylePiet: I appreciate that20:36
david-lyleanything else Piet?20:37
PietAlso, have your buddies complete the Nova Network / Neutron survey20:37
Piethttps://www.surveymonkey.com/r/osnetworking20:37
PietCheers - chat with you later20:38
david-lylethanks Piet20:38
david-lylewhile speaking of surveys I should plug the user survey20:38
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tsufievreturning back to the integration tests20:38
david-lyle#link http://www.openstack.org/user-survey20:39
david-lyleok tsufiev20:39
tsufievagain, we have screenshots in tests, ta-dam!20:39
david-lyleexcellent20:39
doug-fis_hooray!20:39
tsufievhere the sample of them withing job artifacts: http://logs.openstack.org/35/168935/15/check/gate-horizon-dsvm-integration/5bd8a67/screenshots/20:39
david-lyleand we've regained our stability?20:39
tsufievdavid-lyle, seems to me so20:40
david-lylehey, that looks like horizon20:40
david-lylethanks tsufiev20:40
tsufievto actually enable these screenshots for failed tests we need to merge this horizon commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194646/ (besides 3 infra commits already iteratively done)20:40
tsufievdavid-lyle, I was just helping a bit to our QA guy in enabling them20:41
tsufiev</end-of-announcement>20:41
doug-fis_a good patch to merge as soon as Mitaka opens!20:42
tsufievoh, and additional ad here: don't forget about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218301/20:42
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tsufievit's one more patch to make integration tests more stable (we haven't hit yet these kind of issues, but may do so in nearest future)20:43
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david-lyle#topic Mitaka Summit topics20:43
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david-lyle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-summit20:44
david-lyleput you session topics in the etherpad20:44
david-lylejust a reminder20:44
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david-lylealso http://odsreg.openstack.org/ for cross project topic proposals20:45
david-lylewhere cross is > 220:45
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david-lyle#topic Open Discussion20:45
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david-lylepeople are quiet today20:48
david-lylegoing twice ...20:49
mrungemaybe everyone is tired after liberty dev cycle?20:50
mrungeor is there a soccer match going on in parallel?20:50
tsufievwhere are all angular people?20:50
tsufievso quiet here w/o them20:50
david-lyleThanks everyone for your hard work on finalizing the Liberty release. Despite the constant feeling that more should have been included, a great deal of progress was made. Keep testing and raise any bugs you find, so we can get them corrected.20:51
david-lylehave a great week20:51
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david-lyle#endmeeting20:51
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tsufievgood night :)20:52
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mrungethanks and good night!20:53
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