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| egafford | o/ | 14:02 |
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| tosky | o/ | 14:02 |
| elmiko | hmm, do we have a moderator? | 14:02 |
| pino|work | \o | 14:02 |
| crobertsrh | hel\o/ | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hey :) | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | hey | 14:03 |
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| egafford | crobertsrh: Fancy. | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #startmeeting sahara | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 14:03:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:03 |
| AndreyPavlov | hi | 14:03 |
| Venkatesh | Hi | 14:03 |
| elmiko | hi | 14:03 |
| vgridnev | hey | 14:03 |
| weiting | hi | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I've been selecting right channel for it :) | 14:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, vgridnev) | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, vgridnev) (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:04 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon | 14:04 |
| crobertsrh | almost everything seems to be merged | 14:04 |
| vgridnev | It looks like we will not have new changes, that will be landed in liberty-rc1 | 14:04 |
| crobertsrh | the moving cluster config to a separate tab would be nice to get in | 14:04 |
| vgridnev | cores don't want to merge that because it looks like enhancement | 14:05 |
| egafford | crobertsrh: Did that get an FFE? | 14:05 |
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| crobertsrh | No | 14:05 |
| vgridnev | it filed as bug | 14:05 |
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| crobertsrh | Be sure to think of UI ideas for the M cycle. | 14:05 |
| vgridnev | I have several things that we can do in M | 14:06 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic News / Updates | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:07 | |
| vgridnev | this week I tried to fix several bugs that we have in sahara | 14:07 |
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| elmiko | working on the improved secret store, talks for tokyo, and bug cleanup. also trying to diagnose some issues with the hadoop-swift fs stuff. | 14:08 |
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| sreshetnyak | working on fix for saharaclient gate | 14:08 |
| AndreyPavlov | working on client and CLI stuff, fortunately gate has been fixed and patches can be merged | 14:08 |
| tosky | sreshetnyak: sorry for that, I didn't notice it broke (not sure when it happened) | 14:10 |
| egafford | Summit prep mostly: presentations (EDP UX stuff, Manila,) and trying to get small-scale POCs for Zaqar integration and alternative image gen solutions before summit. Other than that, TripleO patches on review and out of WIP. | 14:10 |
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| sreshetnyak | tosky: no problem ;) | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | i'm also working on the summit prep (sahara+storm talk) | 14:12 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | okay, thx folks, let's move on | 14:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Liberty release handling | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty release handling (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:14 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | Release critical CRs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-release-patches Call for reviews! | 14:14 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | please, add CRs to the etherpad if you think that they are release critical | 14:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, we're going to have RC1 by the end of this week | 14:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and please review rest of the patches from etherpad | 14:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | any questions regarding release handling? | 14:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | do we have stuff to backport to liberty client? | 14:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | (0.11.0) | 14:18 |
| AndreyPavlov | i guess we have | 14:19 |
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| AndreyPavlov | just for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220994/ | 14:19 |
| AndreyPavlov | and this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225956/ or even better this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221714/ | 14:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 220994 agreed | 14:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 220956 agreed | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | 221714 is a new feature, shouldn't be backported | 14:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sorry about this | 14:22 |
| AndreyPavlov | and what do you think about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221257/ ? | 14:22 |
| AndreyPavlov | not really sure it should be backported | 14:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | no, it shouldn't, AndreyPavlov | 14:23 |
| AndreyPavlov | ok then | 14:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | AndreyPavlov, could you please backport 220994 and 220956 asap? | 14:23 |
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| AndreyPavlov | sure | 14:24 |
| AndreyPavlov | and the last one - should we backport documentation updates? | 14:24 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | AndreyPavlov for client? | 14:25 |
| AndreyPavlov | yep | 14:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I would say no | 14:26 |
| AndreyPavlov | ok) | 14:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anything else on release handling? | 14:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | okay | 14:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Tokyo summit working group topic discussion | 14:29 |
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| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-sahara-session-plans | 14:30 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-proposed-sessions | 14:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | oops, wrong link :) | 14:30 |
| elmiko | hehe | 14:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, thx | 14:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #undo | 14:31 |
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| elmiko | i need to fill out the apiv2 and sec. plans still | 14:31 |
| elmiko | i have a few bullet points i'd like to add | 14:32 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | I've still not put my ideas to the list | 14:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but we'll have internal planning early October, so, should add more stuff after | 14:32 |
| elmiko | cool | 14:32 |
| SergeyLukjanov | AFAIR the same for Red Hat | 14:32 |
| elmiko | yea | 14:32 |
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| tmckay | oct 1, first meeting | 14:33 |
| tmckay | I'll read the mitaka session plan pad again today | 14:33 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | #topic Open discussion | 14:37 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | but seems like not too many questions :) | 14:38 |
| elmiko | i have a couple topics here | 14:38 |
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| elmiko | 1. i think we should be using our hadoop-swift jar in the vanilla images | 14:38 |
| crobertsrh | go for it elmiko | 14:38 |
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| elmiko | should we also be replacing the that jar in the other plugin images? | 14:39 |
| elmiko | we are currently only using it in the spark images | 14:39 |
| elmiko | i have a patch to update the vanilla image creation to include the swift_hadoop element, but i wasn't sure about doing this to the vendor provided images (cdh, etc) | 14:39 |
| elmiko | thoughts? | 14:39 |
| pino|work | speaking of that... something elmiko and me talked about yesterday in #-sahara | 14:40 |
| egafford | elmiko: Hm... from a CDH/HDP/MapR support perspective, that's really their call. Certainly muddies the waters a bit. | 14:41 |
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| pino|work | the swift jar is currently hosted on the mirantis website, and rebuilt from the content of the sahara-extras repo | 14:41 |
| elmiko | egafford: right, that's why i was only targetting the vanilla images | 14:41 |
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| pino|work | wouldn't it be better to do a post-merge job for sahara-extras, taking care of rebuild that jar and publish it somewhere on openstack.org? | 14:42 |
| elmiko | +1 | 14:42 |
| tosky | elmiko: if some features requires it, it should go in all images I think | 14:42 |
| elmiko | tosky: yea, it is required for proxy domain users | 14:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I would saythat eventually we'll host it on tarballs.o.o (/me need more time to debug issues of building it in gate) | 14:42 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and after that we probably should use everywhere | 14:42 |
| crobertsrh | I don't think we should necessarily force it on the vendor plugins | 14:42 |
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| elmiko | are there any objections to me creating a patch for the vanilla images? | 14:43 |
| crobertsrh | No objection here | 14:43 |
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| egafford | For vanilla, absolutely. | 14:44 |
| elmiko | k, cool | 14:44 |
| elmiko | next question | 14:44 |
| tosky | for cloudera, it should be already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1474128 | 14:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1474128 in Sahara "[CDH] Unable to launch EDP Spark jobs with Swift" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Oleg Borisenko (al-foo) | 14:45 |
| tosky | \ | 14:45 |
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| elmiko | tosky: yea, it already is included when creating a spark image | 14:45 |
| weiting | Any one tried Sahara and Trove integration? I got one customer case, they would like to use Storm and Cassandra together. | 14:45 |
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| elmiko | i am attempting to create a project for the outreachy mentor program, and i am curious if anyone has advice about this bug/feature https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1426398 | 14:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1426398 in Sahara "Current anti-affinity only allows instances equals to number of hypervisors" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:46 |
| tosky | given that Ambari is rewritten "internally" and not by HWX, I would say to start using on all images | 14:46 |
| tosky | weiting: which kind of integration exactly? An Hadoop application accessing a DB executed by Trove? Not sure what is needed on Sahara and/or Trove side | 14:46 |
| elmiko | tosky: i would be ok with doing the work on the other images, but it sounds like we don't have consensus about that | 14:46 |
| tosky | afaik Trove datastores are all marked experimental, with the exception of mysql one | 14:47 |
| tosky | elmiko: oki | 14:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | elmiko, it's about we couldn't say "no more that 2 instances of specific role per node" | 14:47 |
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| egafford | weiting: I think that if you had a Cassandra DB and and a Sahara Hadoop cluster in the same network (or two connected networks), they could talk to each other, but I don't know that there's any more explicit integration (planned or implemented). | 14:48 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm for using version from sahara-extra in all plugins, I think spec should be written for it, tosky | 14:48 |
| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: ok, so we would need to create some new data in the cluster creation request to allow this type of affinity? | 14:48 |
| weiting | tosky: Ok, got it. I am not sure, just would like to know any one tried this case. | 14:48 |
| egafford | weiting: Trove doesn't really have any equivalent of our EDP engine; it's a provisioner. | 14:48 |
| tmckay | elmiko, we have suggested a feature for extra elements as a command line option to DIB, mabye we should include the swift jar as an element and make it optional that way | 14:48 |
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| weiting | egafford: Yep, I agree. | 14:49 |
| elmiko | tmckay: we already have it as an element, it just needs a little work for the other images | 14:49 |
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| tmckay | k. then I would still go with an optional include for the others, maybe. | 14:49 |
| elmiko | imo, i'd rather just add it from a bug. i don't think it will be difficult to add | 14:49 |
| elmiko | i'm already experimenting with it locally | 14:49 |
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| pino|work | how big would this additional jar(s) be? | 14:50 |
| elmiko | its not much bigger than the current jar | 14:50 |
| elmiko | i think the current hadoop-openstack.jar is like 120k and the new one is like 130k | 14:51 |
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| elmiko | iirc | 14:51 |
| weiting | Another quesiton from our customer is about version control, current Sahara usually maintain the latest one version. But some of our customers usually use the old one. | 14:51 |
| pino|work | sounds like could be just added unconditionally in every image then | 14:51 |
| pino|work | it isn't like sahara images strive for being slim anyway... | 14:52 |
| elmiko | thats kinda what i was thinking pino|work, just make a bug and start updating the images | 14:52 |
| elmiko | i mean, currently, if an operator tried to use proxy domain users with swift, it would fail on every image except spark... | 14:52 |
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| tosky | weiting: the latest version for Hadoop distributions? | 14:53 |
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| weiting | tosky: yep, just like CDH5.4 in cloudera plugin. But our customer needs CDH5.3 | 14:54 |
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| weiting | Another case is storm v0.9.2. But current version is v0.9.3 | 14:54 |
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| tosky | uhm, I would add another point to the this: our deprecation policy | 14:55 |
| tosky | for example, vanilla 2.6 was supported in Kilo, now it's deprecated, but deprecated means that the operator can't run clusters | 14:56 |
| weiting | Some customers, they are evaluating Sahara, but finally they don't use Sahara that is because the version support. | 14:56 |
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| tosky | thinking more about this, I would expect one cycle were deprecated means "you know, it will be removed" and then it's removed, but still working in the deprecation time | 14:56 |
| tosky | do we have some discussion for this scheduled during Summit/ | 14:56 |
| tosky | ? | 14:56 |
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| elmiko | add it to the etherpad =) | 14:57 |
| weiting | I would like to propose some feedback from our customers in this Summit. But I am afraid I may not join this Summit since the budget limit from our team. | 14:57 |
| elmiko | add it to the etherpad =) | 14:57 |
| vgridnev | one more question to think there: ok, we support many plugins of many versions: how we can handle that plugin X version Y is not broken by some reason? | 14:59 |
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| tmckay | tosky, +1 on the meaning of deprecated | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | hi | 15:00 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
| egafford | vgridnev: This was the main concern when we discussed separating plugins out to separate repos; unless we have really good (and really big) CI, we can't really know. | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | elmiko: hi, sorry to interrupt | 15:00 |
| tosky | I think we are out of time | 15:00 |
| elmiko | mlavalle: no worries | 15:00 |
| regXboi | moo | 15:00 |
| tmckay | tosky, I have myself gone in and removed the exception in Sahara code to keep running "deprecated" plugin versions | 15:00 |
| tosky | SergeyLukjanov: time to close? | 15:00 |
| vikram | hi | 15:00 |
| pc_m | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | elmiko: ready for next meeting | 15:00 |
| tmckay | the code is still there, it should be a warning imho | 15:00 |
| elmiko | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| Swami | hi | 15:01 |
| elmiko | i don't think i can do it | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | elmiko: thanks! | 15:01 |
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| elmiko | SergeyLukjanov: *cough* | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, elmiko! | 15:01 |
| egafford | elmiko: No chair powers. | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
| * regXboi notes why a meeting should always have more than one chair | 15:01 | |
| openstack | mlavalle: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:01 |
| elmiko | regXboi: +1 | 15:01 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: previoud meeting hasn't ended | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Who is chair? | 15:01 |
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| elmiko | carl_baldwin: SergeyLukjanov | 15:01 |
| elmiko | we failed to HA our chair duties | 15:01 |
| * haleyb plays jeopardy song | 15:02 | |
| elmiko | sorry... | 15:02 |
| regXboi | haleyb: I always liked "syncopated clock" | 15:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 15:02:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-09-24-14.03.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-09-24-14.03.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-09-24-14.03.log.html | 15:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | sorry folks, hotel internet works very unstable | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 15:03:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| carl_baldwin | SergeyLukjanov: Thanks! | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | SergeyLukjanov: thanks! | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:03 |
| * regXboi still notes having multiple chairs is good idea - cough, cough | 15:03 | |
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| regXboi | morning all | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | so, we cut RC1 yesterday.... lots of last time activity, at least for me | 15:04 |
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| regXboi | mlavalle: yay! | 15:04 |
| adduarte | hi | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | That also means that Mitaka is open! | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 15:04 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: +1 | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | also we should know who is the new PTL soon | 15:04 |
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| regXboi | that will be tomorrow | 15:05 |
| regXboi | if you haven't voted - go do so :) | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | yes, please vote..... | 15:05 |
| regXboi | note: I don't care who you vote for :) just vote | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | any other announcements? | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Remember the last vote was won my one single vote. | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | s/my/by/ | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | that's true, so if you haven't voted, you might elect the ptl | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving along..... | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | so pinging myself.... | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | the good news today is that we worked through our critical bugs last week | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | haven't shown up in at least 7 days | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | we also worked through a lot of high importance bugs, so today I have two to highlight | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Yay! | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365473 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Assaf Muller (amuller) | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | I noticed adduarte is in the meeting and he has been involved with this one.... any comments? | 15:09 |
| adduarte | assayf was working on it review | 15:10 |
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| adduarte | testing shows us in good shape. but it does need code review | 15:10 |
| carl_baldwin | I talked with amuller yesterday about this. We’re still hoping to merge this before Liberty final. I’m going to mark it an RC2 candidate. | 15:10 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: sounds good | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | yeah, it got assigned to amuller 17 hours ago..... | 15:11 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin:+1 | 15:11 |
| adduarte | and retesting after any new changes from assaf | 15:11 |
| adduarte | bout an hour of testing | 15:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | adduarte: Thanks for all of your work here. | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | ok, next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1494351 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | pavel_bondar was working on it.... any updates? | 15:13 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: fyi - I have two others to throw in the hopper when you are done | 15:13 |
| pavel_bondar | unfortunatelly I did not had free cycles to work on that during last week | 15:13 |
| pavel_bondar | it is pretty clear now what the fix should be | 15:13 |
| pavel_bondar | but I need about 2 free days to implement and test | 15:14 |
| * mlavalle pu the bugs regXboi is talking about in the agenda.... | 15:14 | |
| * regXboi goes and looks :) | 15:14 | |
| * mlavalle maybe? | 15:14 | |
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| mlavalle | pavel_bondar: that's cool, thanks for the update. Any help needed? | 15:15 |
| * regXboi no - these are ones I'm just seeing now :( - I think carl_baldwin bumped them up and I forgot to add them - apologies | 15:15 | |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Sorry | 15:15 |
| pavel_bondar | mlavalle: it is clear what to do, so I think I am ok here | 15:16 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: my fault, I should have added them | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | pavel_bondar: thanks... moving on | 15:16 |
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| regXboi | mlavalle: the first is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1486795 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486795 in neutron "DVR: create or update port by using notify specific host rather than fanout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang) | 15:16 |
| regXboi | this got bumped up by carl_baldwin to High on 9/18 - there is a request in the bug for a patch set review | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: I’ll get to that one today. It had dropped off my radar. :( | 15:17 |
| regXboi | ( https://review.openstack.org/221209 ) so maybe we can make this a RC-2 target as well? | 15:17 |
| * regXboi hopes | 15:17 | |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: you reviewed it on 9/21. we are actually waiting for the next revision | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: Possibly. It needs work and I wouldn’t call it a release blocker. | 15:18 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin: looking at that patch set, it needs more work :( | 15:18 |
| regXboi | carl_baldwin, so I don't think it's RC-2 ready now | 15:18 |
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| mlavalle | regXboi: yes, carl_baldwin indicated that the code needs cleanup | 15:18 |
| regXboi | the last one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1486828 and I don't see a patch set (which means I think launchpad missed it) | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486828 in neutron "L3: Notify specific agent rather than fanout when associating floatingip" [High,In progress] - Assigned to changzhi (changzhi) | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | regXboi: we were actually talking about the same 2 bugs. both in the agenda | 15:19 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: ok - cool :) | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I got your back man :-) | 15:20 |
| regXboi | good, because I'd have lost my head this week if it wasn't attached to my shoulders :) | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: There is a patch. Let me find... | 15:20 |
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| regXboi | carl_baldwin: yes, I remember seeing it - didn't realize that launchpad had missed it | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215136/ | 15:21 |
| regXboi | thanks - I've updated launchpad | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I'll update the bug with the patchset | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks | 15:21 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: I got your back this time :) | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:22 |
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| regXboi | yeah this one had me worried | 15:22 |
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| regXboi | the test failures didn't look like I could just call them "unrelated" | 15:22 |
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| pavel_bondar | one, question, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1494351 required for Liberty? | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: It’d be nice but I wouldn’t hold up the release for it. | 15:24 |
| neiljerram_bb | Hi, sorry to come in late. | 15:24 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: ok, then try to get some time to fix it sooner | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | the other good news is that we worked through 2 medium importance bugs that were marked for RC-1 by regXboi.... so, all in all, great teamwork | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | +1 | 15:25 |
| regXboi | yes - thanks to everybody that pitched in once they were found :) | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs to discuss? | 15:26 |
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| mlavalle | ok, moving on...... | 15:26 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: I think we are good for now - the backlog is up a bit, and I need to spend some time with it for next week | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | #topic Router Networks | 15:27 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: I think this is the spec you want to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/ | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | I put it in the agenda | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Yes. I wanted to point it out. It is collecting feedback. | 15:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | It introduces two very poorly named new entities to help model L3 networking. | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | I think it is probably best to just take the discussion to the review. Maybe we’ll have more to discuss next week. | 15:29 |
| neiljerram_bb | I will review soon, hopefully tomorrow. | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | Please take a look and pitch in with feedback | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | moving on..... | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | #topic DVR | 15:30 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: hi | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | Swami: the floor is all yours | 15:30 |
| Swami | I am working on fixing some error logs that I have been seeing in the l3-agent logs. | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | regXboi: and haleyb: too | 15:31 |
| Swami | I have also added a couple of bugs related to those fixes. | 15:31 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: thanks for reminding me | 15:31 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225319/ | 15:31 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225514/ | 15:32 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225523/ | 15:32 |
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| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227008/ | 15:32 |
| haleyb | I have questions about that last one, but will put them in the review | 15:33 |
| Swami | There was one other patch I have submitted to revert it. This one I had a discussion with carl_baldwin yesterday regarding the static routes being added to snat_namespace instead of the qr-namespace | 15:33 |
| regXboi | Swami: can you speculate how many of those might be causing DVR jobs failures in the pipelines? | 15:33 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227045/ | 15:33 |
| Swami | regXboi: As of today they are causing the DVR jobs to fail, but the intermittent failures may be due to these issues. | 15:34 |
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| Swami | s/they are/they are not | 15:34 |
| regXboi | Swami: are there logstash queries that we can use to check the pipelines? | 15:35 |
| Swami | regXboi: I looked at the logtrace from my patches for any traces that have happened. | 15:35 |
| Swami | regXboi: I don't have a logstash query at this time. | 15:36 |
| Swami | haleyb: thanks | 15:36 |
| regXboi | ok, I ask becasue the dvr jobs are running at between 25 and 50% failure rates for the last week :( | 15:36 |
| regXboi | and that's not good | 15:36 |
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| Swami | regXboi: last two days on 20 and 21 the DVR job failure was high. | 15:36 |
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| Swami | regXboi: I was not sure what was cusing that spike for last two days, it came down yesterday. | 15:37 |
| haleyb | Swami: I guess my main concern with some of the log message "squashing" is that is there a bug underneath? Hiding the message just makes it worse | 15:37 |
| Swami | Does anyone know what caused that spike. | 15:37 |
| regXboi | haleyb: +1 squashing messages without fixing bugs is not the way to go | 15:38 |
| Swami | haleyb: The issue that I am seeing with these log message, is either the port or the namespace is concurrently deleted, while other one is trying to add the data. | 15:38 |
| regXboi | Swami: I do not know - that's why I was looking for logstash queries to check to see if they were related | 15:38 |
| haleyb | for example, if we get a "namespace does not exist" error was it supposed to be there? | 15:38 |
| Swami | regXboi: haleyb: I agree. | 15:38 |
| Swami | haleyb: This is the reason for the patch revert that I included. | 15:39 |
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| haleyb | Swami: yes, concurrency with DVR is a bit tricky | 15:39 |
| Swami | haleyb: it is trying to add a static route to the snat-namespace, when the snat-namespace has been already deleted or not in existence. | 15:39 |
| regXboi | on the DVR job failures, I need to finish this last O(n) perf issue that I'm chasing and then I was going to go at the problem from the FIP side | 15:39 |
| Swami | regXboi: Most of the DVR jobs inconsistent failure is due to the "ssh timeout" or not able to reach with the FloatingIP. | 15:40 |
| regXboi | to see *why* the FIPs aren't available as those are *most* of what I've seen when DVR fails | 15:40 |
| regXboi | Swami: exactly | 15:40 |
| haleyb | Swami: on the SNAT namespace, that gets back at the conversation you and carl_baldwin had yesterday regarding do we need to add routes there, what was the conclusion there? | 15:40 |
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| Swami | regXboi: The best option is that we might have to add some test cases to see if the packet can reach from one namespace to another namespace. | 15:41 |
| regXboi | Swami: I think we may have some additional options to follow | 15:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | I still need to come to my own conclusion. At first I thought it makes sense for all of the dvr router namespaces to have essentially the same routing tables. But, the static routes may not be used in the snat namespace. | 15:42 |
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| Swami_ | sorry got disconnected. | 15:43 |
| Swami_ | regXboi: haleyb: what would be the best option to handle the concurrency problem with the DVR. | 15:44 |
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| mlavalle | regXboi, haleyb maybe we need to continue this discusssion in the Neutron channel? | 15:45 |
| regXboi | mlavalle: +1 - let's move on | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | ok..... | 15:45 |
| haleyb | yes.... | 15:45 |
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| mlavalle | #topic BGP dynamic routing | 15:45 |
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| tidwellr | hi | 15:45 |
| Swami_ | sorry got disconnected. | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | hi | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | Swami_: let's continue that conversation in the Neutron channel | 15:46 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: sure | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: floor is all yours..... | 15:47 |
| tidwellr | just plugging along, the dynamic routing agent is in pretty solid shape | 15:47 |
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| tidwellr | feel free to review (let me get the links) | 15:47 |
| tidwellr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207607/ | 15:48 |
| tidwellr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207625/ | 15:48 |
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| tidwellr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207635/ | 15:48 |
| tidwellr | these are in good shape | 15:48 |
| tidwellr | we still have the service plugin and API code to polish up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621/ | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: great! Let’s get them back in to our merge queues. | 15:49 |
| tidwellr | since Mitaka is now open, I need to do a rebase | 15:49 |
| tidwellr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621/ is still WIP | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: I’d say only rebase if you hit a merge conflict. | 15:50 |
| tidwellr | well, we've got migrations in the wrong folders and stuff like that | 15:50 |
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| tidwellr | I'm looking to break down https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201621/, it's rather large | 15:51 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: ok | 15:51 |
| tidwellr | anyway, that's where we're at | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr: thanks for the update.... let's move on | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | #topic DNS | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | so regXboi filed a bug last Friday, where internal dns queries were causing poor performance in ports gets | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | we were able to propose a fix for it, that made it in RC-1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226581/ | 15:53 |
| regXboi | :) | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | esentially eliminated all the overhead db queries for subnets | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | thanks regXboi, great catch | 15:53 |
| regXboi | you are welcome | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks for the quick response on that. | 15:54 |
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| mlavalle | as far as external DNS (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/) we are at a point where the functionality for floating ips is woking fine | 15:54 |
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| mlavalle | Here http://paste.openstack.org/show/471874/ I walk though the creation of a fip with dns_name and dns_domain and show the impact on the designate database and I can dig the A and PTR pointers | 15:55 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: nice! | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | We’ve got a talk we need to get ready for | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | I reviewed this with Kiall, mugsie and the rest of the Designate tea, and I am going to polish it over the next 2 days. after that, we are good to show it in Tokyo | 15:56 |
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| mlavalle | and next week i'll move on to vm ports on external networks and will start bugging the infra team to get neutron + designate in the gate | 15:57 |
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| mlavalle | that's my update for today | 15:57 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Open Discussion | 15:58 |
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| mlavalle | any other topics to bring up? | 15:58 |
| regXboi | under the O(n) heading - I've got one more I'm chasing for router scheduling - ovs_add_port | 15:58 |
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| mlavalle | ok, guys, thanks for attending, time is over. And keep up the great work! | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 16:00:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-09-24-15.03.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-09-24-15.03.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-09-24-15.03.log.html | 16:00 |
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| mlavalle | bye | 16:00 |
| etoews | #startmeeting api wg | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 16:00:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
| ryansb | hello folks | 16:00 |
| etoews | hello | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | hi | 16:00 |
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| etoews | small crowd... | 16:01 |
| elmiko | yea, no one showed last week :/ | 16:01 |
| etoews | well that's never too surprising on the "late" meeting | 16:02 |
| elmiko | true | 16:02 |
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| etoews | #topic agenda | 16:02 |
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| etoews | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:02 |
| etoews | looks like it's pretty much just our standing agenda | 16:03 |
| etoews | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:03 |
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| elmiko | i added a small note to the gerrit wiki page about APIImpact | 16:03 |
| elmiko | mainly, just adding a sentence about contacting the api-wg in #openstack-api on freenode | 16:04 |
| * etoews looks for last meaningful meeting minutes | 16:04 | |
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| elmiko | that link is actually the last attended meeting | 16:04 |
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| etoews | ah yes | 16:05 |
| etoews | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-10-16.00.html | 16:05 |
| etoews | elmiko: is the gerrit wiki page still the canonical source for openstack contrib? | 16:07 |
| elmiko | um, it looked like it | 16:07 |
| etoews | i thought it had moved to some doc maintained in git | 16:07 |
| elmiko | let me dig up the link | 16:07 |
| elmiko | oh, that may be the case | 16:07 |
| ryansb | as far as I know, it still is. I think project docs went to developer.openstack.org | 16:07 |
| ryansb | but for stuff like the contributor guide, the wiki is still the place I think | 16:08 |
| elmiko | maybe we should make a PR against http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html too? | 16:08 |
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| etoews | that's the one i was thinking of | 16:09 |
| etoews | it mentions APIImpact too | 16:09 |
| elmiko | i added it to this page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages | 16:09 |
| elmiko | in this section, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages#Including_external_references | 16:09 |
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| etoews | that's reasonable. | 16:10 |
| elmiko | basically, my addition was "Additionally, the API Working Group can be contacted directly on IRC in the #openstack-api channel of Freenode." | 16:10 |
| ryansb | don't think I'd discovered that dev guide, neat | 16:10 |
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| elmiko | just one more nod to improve communication | 16:10 |
| ryansb | +1 | 16:11 |
| etoews | elmiko: did you want to PR against http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html too or wiki is good enough? | 16:12 |
| elmiko | i can make a pr there as well, always better to have this info spread more widely | 16:12 |
| elmiko | plus it seems like a low likehood that openstack-api is going away anytime soon | 16:12 |
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| etoews | ++ | 16:13 |
| elmiko | #action elmiko to make a PR against http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html to add info about the openstack-api irc channel | 16:13 |
| etoews | thx | 16:13 |
| elmiko | i mean, they may reject it but i don't mind making an effort =) | 16:13 |
| etoews | #topic Mitaka sessions etherpad | 16:14 |
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| etoews | did you still want to discuss this elmiko ? | 16:14 |
| elmiko | i mainly left it on there as an ongoing topic until the summit | 16:15 |
| elmiko | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-api-wg-session-plans | 16:15 |
| elmiko | we do need to flesh it out a little more though | 16:15 |
| elmiko | and, i suppose, i'll need to make a more thorough agenda if i'm supposed to do some talking for more than like 5 minutes ;) | 16:15 |
| ryansb | or bring lots of beer | 16:15 |
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| ryansb | then nobody will notice your presentation is short | 16:16 |
| elmiko | mm, good point | 16:16 |
| elmiko | maybe group karaoke? | 16:16 |
| etoews | added 3.3 | 16:17 |
| elmiko | cool, ty | 16:17 |
| ryansb | That would be very location-appropriate :) | 16:17 |
| stevelle | wouldn't we all end up getting into debates about how to improve the interface on the karaoke machine? | 16:17 |
| etoews | sake and karaoke! | 16:17 |
| elmiko | stevelle: lol, i would hope so! | 16:17 |
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| elmiko | mmm sake... | 16:18 |
| elmiko | never really tried karaoke | 16:18 |
| etoews | #topic guidelines dashboard | 16:18 |
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| etoews | #link http://ghostcloud.net/openstack_gerrit_dashboards/dashboard_api-wg.html | 16:18 |
| elmiko | would be cool if we could have the direct link to the dashboard somewhere | 16:19 |
| elmiko | like, a task to compile the dashboard then make a shortened link | 16:19 |
| elmiko | i feel like this should be a post-commit hook in the dashboard-generator stuff | 16:19 |
| etoews | ya. better yet. a short link where you can just edit the link. | 16:19 |
| elmiko | right | 16:19 |
| ryansb | as in with bit.ly or something? | 16:20 |
| etoews | so many public shorteners you can't edit the link after the fact | 16:20 |
| etoews | can you edit bit.ly links after you've created them? | 16:20 |
| ryansb | I don't know, I thought so | 16:20 |
| etoews | i remember trying to do that ages ago | 16:20 |
| elmiko | new openstack project idea? | 16:20 |
| etoews | i'm the PTL! | 16:20 |
| elmiko | sold! | 16:20 |
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| ryansb | hoy vey | 16:21 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:21 |
| etoews | openstack generates another PTL | 16:21 |
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| etoews | anne needs to respond to the comments on her guideline before we can consider a freeze there #link https://review.openstack.org/214817 | 16:22 |
| elmiko | yea | 16:23 |
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| etoews | as i said in #openstack-api, the transitive dependencies of Ken'ichi's guidelines is makin me nuts. | 16:23 |
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| elmiko | i know... | 16:23 |
| elmiko | ryansb had a good one that should be up for freeze once it gets a little attention | 16:23 |
| ryansb | yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183599/2 | 16:23 |
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| elmiko | spliiiiiit | 16:24 |
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| ryansb | hm? | 16:24 |
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| elmiko | sorry, just saw a bunch of drops. figured netsplit | 16:24 |
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| etoews | ugh. i see this regularly with rackspace's deployment of heat. it gives me feels. | 16:25 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:25 |
| ryansb | oh, I have drops hidden if they haven't talked in the last 15 mins | 16:25 |
| elmiko | nice | 16:25 |
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| ryansb | by far my favorite weechat feature | 16:25 |
| ryansb | etoews: :( | 16:25 |
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| ryansb | sorry... | 16:25 |
| stevelle | given the merge conflict I just kept overlooking that on ryansb | 16:26 |
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| ryansb | yeah, no worries | 16:26 |
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| * etoews commenting on review | 16:28 | |
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| etoews | so is there anything ready for freeze this week? | 16:34 |
| elmiko | i don't think much has been updated, so probably not | 16:34 |
| ryansb | I don't think so - there's still controversy on the errors guideline | 16:35 |
| ryansb | so that isn't freezeable | 16:35 |
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| etoews | ya. i wanted to discuss that next. | 16:36 |
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| etoews | #topic errors guideline | 16:36 |
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| etoews | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167793/ | 16:37 |
| elmiko | i need to re-review this one | 16:37 |
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| etoews | does anyone know matthew booth or his irc nick? | 16:38 |
| elmiko | sadly, no | 16:39 |
| ryansb | nope | 16:39 |
| etoews | i like rocky's suggestion at the very end. it's a good way to leave the door open but not creating a dependency on matthew's "...the list located at X." | 16:41 |
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| elmiko | agreed, we should not be defining the error code specs | 16:41 |
| etoews | i'd like to get your thoughts on the review too | 16:41 |
| elmiko | re-added to my queue ;) | 16:42 |
| stevelle | agreed on rocky's segmentation of the problem | 16:43 |
| etoews | ken makes a good point about link relations | 16:43 |
| etoews | we definitely don't have a guideline for that | 16:44 |
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| elmiko | yea, that seems like good fodder for a new guideline | 16:44 |
| elmiko | although, given the state of apis now it may be controversial | 16:44 |
| etoews | i'm not crazy about json api's take on them http://jsonapi.org/format/#document-links | 16:45 |
| etoews | i don't really care for https://github.com/blongden/vnd.error either | 16:45 |
| elmiko | hehe | 16:45 |
| ryansb | what don't you like, that they keep them in {"href": ...} ? | 16:46 |
| elmiko | etoews: what don't you like about the jsonapi stuff? | 16:46 |
| etoews | 1. that's there's 2 ways to express them | 16:47 |
| etoews | 2. the meta thing (i get it, but i feel like they punted on doing something useful) | 16:47 |
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| elmiko | #1 makes sense to me, i kinda get why they would do #2. gotta leave the door open for the weird custom stuff, right? | 16:48 |
| etoews | if i was to change the link relations in this guideline, i'd probably do it whatever way most other openstack apis already do it | 16:48 |
| etoews | ya. i totally get why they did that for #2. maximum squishiness. | 16:49 |
| elmiko | seems to me though, we would need to decide whether we recommend using "href" or "ref" or whatever, if only to help with consistency | 16:49 |
| elmiko | haha, i like that. etoew's principle of maximal squishiness ;) | 16:50 |
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| etoews | it pains me to think that this could be held up by having to get people to agree on a link relation format. | 16:50 |
| elmiko | you know it will | 16:50 |
| etoews | (even though it's probably necessary) | 16:50 |
| etoews | i really don't have the time right now to do the proper research and put together a guideline for link relations | 16:51 |
| elmiko | well yea, i mean even if nobody changes the old stuff it would be cool to be able to crawl apis, or auto discover, based on a known link key | 16:51 |
| etoews | and then have the ensuing argument of what the hell hypermedia means. | 16:51 |
| elmiko | i'd like to dig into the apis, if only to discover some patterns, but i might need help presenting the argument to the larger community. | 16:52 |
| etoews | sigh. i don't mean to sound so jaded. just pressed for time for the next month. | 16:52 |
| etoews | elmiko: i've been putting my research into https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/Current_Design | 16:53 |
| elmiko | would you be willing to help if i could collate the data? | 16:53 |
| elmiko | (or anyone else too) | 16:53 |
| etoews | sure | 16:53 |
| elmiko | ok, i'll try to get something going over the next few weeks | 16:53 |
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| etoews | cool. thx a ton elmiko! | 16:54 |
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| etoews | anything else in the last 5 min? | 16:55 |
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| ryansb | don't think so | 16:56 |
| elmiko | nothing from me | 16:56 |
| stevelle | nothing here | 16:57 |
| etoews | here's something interesting to chew on :) https://github.com/jamiehannaford/swagger-magnum | 16:58 |
| elmiko | wow, missed opportunity to call that swagnum... | 16:58 |
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| etoews | it's also a WIP | 16:58 |
| elmiko | cool | 16:58 |
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| etoews | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 17:00:38 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-24-16.00.html | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-24-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| etoews | thx! | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-09-24-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 17:03:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 17:03 |
| docaedo | #topic rollcall | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:04 | |
| docaedo | (I seem to be having serious IRC connectivity issues at the moment...) | 17:04 |
| kzaitsev_mb | what time is it? meeting time! =) | 17:04 |
| docaedo | Anyway, who's here for some app-catalog chatter? | 17:04 |
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| docaedo | o/ | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | not many of us today =) | 17:06 |
| kzaitsev_mb | wonder where's kfox1111? =) | 17:06 |
| kfox1111 | o/ | 17:07 |
| kfox1111 | meetings, meetings everywhere... | 17:07 |
| docaedo | ah nice .. ok I'll throw a few quick updates from my side here, but might have to drop off and try to reconnect | 17:08 |
| docaedo | #topic Updates | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:08 | |
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| docaedo | SSL for app catalog in progress | 17:08 |
| docaedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/226984 | 17:08 |
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| docaedo | I'll ping infra folk today to get some extra reviews on it | 17:08 |
| docaedo | It works for me though in my local infra test environment, and does what it's meant to | 17:09 |
| kfox1111 | yay. :) | 17:09 |
| docaedo | also basically copied stuff from how gerrit is hosted, which also listens to 80 and 443 (but redirects traffic to 443) | 17:09 |
| docaedo | Additional repo for shared components in progress | 17:09 |
| docaedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/226999 | 17:09 |
| docaedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/227413 | 17:09 |
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| kfox1111 | nice. | 17:10 |
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| docaedo | I don't expect any difficulties with this, but will stay on top of it. In theory, we should have the additional repo available today or tomorrow? | 17:10 |
| kfox1111 | yeah, I'm looking into how we can put code in there and share it between the other two repos. | 17:10 |
| docaedo | Great, thanks! | 17:11 |
| docaedo | Last thing I'll share on this topic, since it deals directly with testing: | 17:11 |
| docaedo | Testing with devstack (made easy!) I had been using a shell script to make devstack local.conf for me under a single-nic VM but still using neutron (so heat can provision networks, etc.) | 17:11 |
| docaedo | This is the script, figured I'd share here as I've never found anything else that makes this as easy. | 17:12 |
| docaedo | #https://github.com/aedocw/devstack-helper | 17:12 |
| docaedo | #link https://github.com/aedocw/devstack-helper | 17:12 |
| kfox1111 | nice. any chance for a heat template to go along with it for the catalog? :) | 17:12 |
| docaedo | I'll work on it, sure :) | 17:13 |
| docaedo | Any updates you guys want to share? | 17:13 |
| kfox1111 | the heat environment passing patch to horizon made it in, | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | looks usefull. btw, afaik murano has added devstack plugin in L, so probably it can be altered to not include libs =) | 17:14 |
| kfox1111 | so we can add some of that later to the plugin and still work with liberty. | 17:14 |
| kfox1111 | kzaitsev_mb: I was wondering about that. very nice. | 17:14 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: thanks, I'll update the script (unless you want to do a PR) | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | kfox1111 asked me to add eslint gate job to app-catalog-ui. With most of machinery in place I was planning to add an infra commit later today (or tomorrow) | 17:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sooner rather than later anyway ) | 17:16 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: cool thanks | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: I'll ask my devsack-guru colleague to help me on that one. So I might do a PR, yep. Although won't promise that ) | 17:17 |
| docaedo | (also btw murano docs still seem to show the libs need importing - http://murano.readthedocs.org/en/latest/install/development.html?highlight=devstack) | 17:17 |
| docaedo | ok - should we move on to open discussion? | 17:18 |
| kfox1111 | k | 17:18 |
| docaedo | #topic Open discussion | 17:19 |
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| docaedo | on the API front I've been playing with flask, RAML and Ramses - could give us (potentially) a REALLY transparent way to build the API. By next weeks meeting, if not before, I'll have a really simple PoC somewhere so we can use it as a point of discussion | 17:20 |
| docaedo | I do see the potential value of also/or using django for the xstatic stuff, and promise to keep it in mind too :) | 17:20 |
| docaedo | The OpenStack Foundation is very keenly interested in seeing if they can help move the API work along quickly, especially on the "make it super easy to add new assets via API" | 17:21 |
| kfox1111 | awesome. thanks for PoCing that. | 17:21 |
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| kfox1111 | yeah. I think as part of that, we need to figure out a review procedure. | 17:22 |
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| docaedo | agreed on that - regarding review of new assets I'm thinking we can probably do something really simple that still uses the openstack ID and groups (i.e. list of cores), and only a core can switch a newly added asset to "active", defaulting all new content to "pending" or something | 17:24 |
| docaedo | which means we'd need to have an admin dashboard, but it could be very minimal as that particular piece doesn't need to be pretty or super user friendly | 17:24 |
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| kfox1111 | a flag would be interesting... | 17:25 |
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| kfox1111 | we could maybe have another site or tweak the horizon plugin to show the unaproved ones. | 17:25 |
| kfox1111 | that way folks could test before approval. | 17:26 |
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| docaedo | Hmm, good point, would definitely need to make it possible/easy for people to test before approval | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | being able to easily test before approval sounds like a really nice idea | 17:28 |
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| kfox1111 | kzaitsev_mb: tried your eslint thing again, still hitting "npm install" InvocationError. I'm guessing npm install needs an argument? eslint? | 17:28 |
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| kfox1111 | you can test today by checking out the repo and running a local one, but with an api, it would be easier to just post and hit the review version. | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | kfox1111: that's strange, does the same thing happen for horizon? cause app-catalog-ui config is a simplified version of horizon's one | 17:30 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but we might be better discussing that in #app-catalog ) | 17:31 |
| docaedo | true, actually would not be a bad idea to just have a "show pending" checkbox on the site and in horizon, so you can see whatever is in-flight at the moment | 17:31 |
| docaedo | agreed on debugging eslint on #openstack-app-catalog | 17:31 |
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| docaedo | anything else for open discussion? | 17:33 |
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| kfox1111 | no, I think I'm good. | 17:36 |
| docaedo | OK | 17:36 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: I updated the devstack helper to use the murano plugin, instructions are correct in the murano repo | 17:36 |
| docaedo | and I think we are done - thanks as always! | 17:36 |
| docaedo | See you on #openstack-app-catalog ! | 17:37 |
| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 17:37:30 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-09-24-17.03.html | 17:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-09-24-17.03.txt | 17:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-09-24-17.03.log.html | 17:37 |
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| rkukura | hi again - having issues with colloquy | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro mageshgv: hi | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bummer! | 18:06 |
| mageshgv | hi | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i was in the wrong channel | 18:06 |
| mageshgv | :- | 18:06 |
| rkukura | maybe I was too | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 24 18:07:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:07 |
| ivar-lazzaro | lol | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and i was wondering why mageshgv was not visible | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my bad! | 18:07 |
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| rkukura | guess I’m not late after all ;) | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: lol | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Sept_3rd.2C_10th.2C_17th.2C_24th_2015 | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Integration tests and job | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Integration tests and job (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:07 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | i updated this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/222048 | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which adds gbpfunc | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and ivar-lazzaro said “gotta look at that" | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | other than that i dont have any other updates on gate jobs | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | : #topic Packaging | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging | 18:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Packaging (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:08 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: any updates at your end (i have one) | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ? | 18:09 |
| rkukura | My only update is that our stuff will be removed from fedora 23 soon if we don’t update the dependencies | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and update from what to what? | 18:10 |
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| rkukura | I should be able to take care of this by next week’s meeting, along with updating to our newest releases | 18:10 |
| rkukura | the issue is broken dependencies that prevent the packages from building | 18:10 |
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| rkukura | Assuming the rest of OpenStack is still in F23, I’ll udpate GBP. | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok, so this is across juno and kilo? | 18:11 |
| rkukura | I think there is a plan to no longer include OpenStack services in Fedora | 18:11 |
| rkukura | I need to check which OpenStack release F23 includes (if any) | 18:11 |
| rkukura | The OpenStack clients will still be in Fedora | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ok | 18:11 |
| rkukura | But RDO will be preferred for deploying the services on Fedora | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: would you need a new stable release of juno and kilo for this? | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we havent released one for a while now, but we have made several updates since the last one release | 18:12 |
| rkukura | I’d use the latest stable release of whichever it includes | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:12 |
| rkukura | Probably makes sense to release new stable versions then | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes, sure will do | 18:13 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: What is your update? | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i updated the juno client | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and it no longer depends on the 2.3.9 version of neutron client | 18:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | it now aligns with 2.3.12 which is also the same version as in the global requirements | 18:14 |
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| rkukura | Sounds good | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which means that this aligns well with the oslo libraries that the rest of openstack is using | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we need to see if this is going to have any impact on existing deployments | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i dont think this impacts you since your users are using kilo client | 18:15 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: right | 18:15 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | for any other deployment this should hopefully just result in automatically updating the neutronclient version as well | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i havent tested | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i only tested on devstack | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that was my update | 18:16 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: thanks! | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: in case you were setting the neutronclient dependency explicitly somewhere then may be you can check | 18:17 |
| rkukura | Yes, I’ll update that as part of updating the packages. | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, thanks! | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:17 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i believed jishnu confirmed that #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1486740 should be fixed now | 18:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486740 in Group Based Policy "GBP Ext-Seg: L3Policy cannot be updated to a new Ext-Seg" [High,Incomplete] - Assigned to Ivar Lazzaro (mmaleckk) | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *believe | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefully he will update LP, or i will do it later | 18:18 |
| ivar-lazzaro | nice | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: regarding #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1462024 | 18:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462024 in Group Based Policy "Concurrent create_policy_target_group call fails" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/224293 | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i tried to follow up with ajay yesterday | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i am not quite sure i got the message across though | 18:19 |
| rkukura | I’m convinced that using utils.clean_session() helps | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: nice | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: perhaps we can get into a short meeting with him to explain what we expect from him regarding the tests | 18:20 |
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| rkukura | So I need to decide whether to add functions to local_api that do this, or keep in in implicit_policy. | 18:20 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: meeting with Ajay makes sense | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:20 |
| rkukura | I think I will finish up my patch and cleanup the logging, but leave enough debug logging to be helpful for him. | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: sounds good | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so which functions are missing? | 18:21 |
| rkukura | In local_api? | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you mentioned you needed to decide whether to add functions | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | you mean the calls to clean_session()? | 18:22 |
| rkukura | Yes, these would be wrappers for create_l3_policy and get_l3_policies that call clean_session. | 18:22 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: using local_api is a good idea, we are putting SC constructs there as well anyways | 18:23 |
| rkukura | OK, that’s what I’ll do | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i agree | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | since all drivers can make use of it i guess | 18:23 |
| rkukura | So I should have any updated patch later today that we can review and merge hopefully. | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | although for now we always use implicit policy | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, so you want to have the discussion with ajay before that? | 18:24 |
| rkukura | Either way - what timezone is he? | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | he is local here | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as you mentioned, it would be great to have a clean rally run | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clean meaning, 100% success | 18:25 |
| rkukura | Agreed | 18:25 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | okay | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: any updates on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1417312 or #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1470646 ? | 18:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1417312 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Existing L3Policy results in failure to create PTG with default L2Policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470646 in Group Based Policy "Deleting network associated with L2P results in infinite loop" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:26 |
| rkukura | I haven’t done anything regarding the latter yet, and need to look at the first one again to see if its related to my current patch. | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the updates | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: any updates on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1489090 and #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/1418839 ? | 18:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489090 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Resource intergrity fails between policy-rule-set & external-policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv) | 18:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1418839 in Group Based Policy "Service config in yaml cannot be loaded" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv) | 18:28 |
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| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: I did not get time to work on it this week, will try to post a patch over the weekend | 18:28 |
| rkukura | thanks ivar-lazzaro for pointing out the clean_session idea - that saved a ton of time | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: thanks! | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: +1 | 18:29 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: I'm glad it helped! | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | any other high priority bugs | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | there are a few in the UI, but i dont think we have the right people here to discuss | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Node Composition Plugin/Driver/Plumber enhancements | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203226/ | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: are there plans to update the above with references to the proxy ptg constructs? | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | constructs -> extension | 18:32 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: mmmh I don't think it should be the same spec | 18:32 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but I agree we need something | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:32 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I would keep that spec solely for updating our plumbing terminology | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, it should be captured somewhere | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:32 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | no need to mix up with plumber specific techniques, that's orthogonal | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i also want to discuss a little bit of process regarding documenting the design | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets park it for now and come back to it in the open discussion topic | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so we have the following series which i believe is ready for review and being actively tested by #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/group-based-policy+branch:master+topic:bp/node-centric-chain-plugin,n,z | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Have couple of tests failing | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but will fix right after this meeting | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: yeah, noticed that yesterday | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: thanks | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i believe you had discussion with ivar-lazzaro to fix the pending issues in this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/166424 as follow up? | 18:35 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: yes, we were discussing a few issues about the node and spec ownership | 18:36 |
| mageshgv | We can address them as a follow up patch | 18:36 |
| igordcard__ | hi, does the new ncp work with odl as backend as well? | 18:37 |
| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard__: ncp in general should be orthogonal, it really depends on the plumber | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard__: ah good to see you here :-) | 18:37 |
| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard__: if we plan on using the Traffic Stitching Plumber, then we need the ODL folks to add support for proxy groups in their driver | 18:38 |
| ivar-lazzaro | that should be already enough, the design is made so that supporting the proxy group extension will make you automatically compliant with the TScP | 18:38 |
| ivar-lazzaro | nonetheless, we don't have a spec for the proxy group extension yet... But I promise I'll work on it :) | 18:39 |
| igordcard__ | I haven't yet been able to meet the proxy group, but will check it out | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: yeah, that was my feeling too, we need to have the proxy design documented | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: that would have helped with more people getting involved with the review as well | 18:40 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yes | 18:40 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I also had one more change that I wanted to make (after we merge this series) and I'd like the team opinion about this | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: that said, its fantastic work! | 18:41 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (especially rkukura since it's related to the ML2 design) | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: please go ahead | 18:41 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | I was thinking about splitting up our RMD and the SC mapping logic | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (because... you know... many many lines of code) | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and I was thinking of doing so by creating a new driver called chain_mapping | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | with the only purpose of defining what the SC workflow should look like for GBP | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: so just to be clear, this is a policy driver | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: yes | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: and not a service chain driver | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yeah that would run together with IPD and RMD | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | it would be the last of the chain (pun intended) | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: lol | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | the advantage of doing so, besides obvious reusability | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | id that we can finally converge on ONE WAY of doing SC | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | without all the drivers trying to do that on their own | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (for instance, provider centric chains were just adopted by the APIC mapping at first) | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and with a smaller amount of code to work on, it'll be easier to review and make design decisions | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: all drivers inherit from RMD, so it doesnt increase reusability per say, right? | 18:45 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I'll be more self documenting than before | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: chain_mapping would require RMD to run right? | 18:45 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: they do, but sometimes they have to change the neutron mapping | 18:45 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: and when they do, they need to rewrite a method almost entirely | 18:46 |
| ivar-lazzaro | even the SC parts | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay, i am definitely in favor of better modularity | 18:46 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: no! in theory, that can perfectly work by itself | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: what is it in practice? | 18:46 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: in practice I'm not sure what would happen to datapath if you did that... that's only a bunch of entry in the database | 18:47 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: but the database would look just fine | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: in theory we should have been able to use RMD withouth IPD, but i think we realized that it doesnt work that way ;-) | 18:48 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: so people can write their own mapping drivers without worrying about SC... As long as they can support proxy_group extension for the plumber | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: anyway orthogonal discussion, sorry for distracting | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right, makes sense | 18:48 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: yeah that's very true :) | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: perhaps a concrete example of what gets factored out might help everyone to understand better | 18:49 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: I'm actually already working on a patch | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: so may be a very small patch will also be very helpful | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: awesome, guessed as much! ;-) | 18:49 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: actually, it's already done | 18:49 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: but UTs are still failing | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay np | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: what is your opinion about this? | 18:50 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | in case you got a chance to think through | 18:50 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I've designed that to be on top of the existing chain... Which is a terrible maintenance choice... but it's easier to pull it off | 18:50 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: is there any particular implication I should be more aware of? except for taking into account deleting order? | 18:50 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: I had an offline discussion with ivar-lazzaro on this, I am +1 for this, it really helps in maintaining and modularization and code reuse | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: awesome! | 18:51 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: All sounds good in theory, but I’m not clear on how much coupling there is between your SC driver and the other policy drivers. | 18:51 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: you mean the SC plugin? | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | today, the SC plugin (and its drivers) can only create GBP resource | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | they *never* talk to Neutron directly (by design) | 18:53 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: I meant the chain_mapping policy driver | 18:53 |
| ivar-lazzaro | That should be able to even run alone | 18:53 |
| ivar-lazzaro | the semantic is very simple: find a redirect, create a chain | 18:53 |
| ivar-lazzaro | never using external Openstack modules (except for Keystone for admin owned chains) | 18:54 |
| ivar-lazzaro | it does almost no validation, except for things like "only one redirect per PRS | 18:54 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and it doesn't even depend on proxy_group | 18:54 |
| ivar-lazzaro | that said, I might have missed something... but coupling seems nill | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay, i think looking at the patch will probabyl making this much more clear | 18:55 |
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| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: What you are describing sounds fine - but you seem to be a bit concerned | 18:55 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: not really, so far it's looking good... I just wanna make sure I'm not overlooking some fundamental ML2ish design constraint | 18:57 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: Are you doing everything that creates resources during postcommit? | 18:57 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yup | 18:57 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | as SumitNaiksatam said, maybe with a patch we can discuss better | 18:57 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I'll post one once I fix the UTs | 18:58 |
| rkukura | Right, but sounds good so far. | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro:thanks for bringing it up | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: mageshgv: so to summarize - we are going forward with #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/group-based-policy+branch:master+topic:bp/node-centric-chain-plugin,n,z | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | after the UTs are fixed | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and the gate job reports succes on the integration tests | 18:59 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: sounds good | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: you are comfortable will all patches in the series? | 19:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i believe you will need to remove WIP wherever applicable | 19:00 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yeah | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay we have hit the hour | 19:00 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: I am fine with the patches, will go over them once more to make sure I didnt miss anything | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ivar-lazzaro: great | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i wanted to bring up some discussion regarding documenting design and API | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but we are out of time | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i will try to communicate offline | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all for joining | 19:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 19:01 |
| mageshgv | bye | 19:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 24 19:02:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-09-24-18.07.html | 19:02 |
| rkukura | bye | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-09-24-18.07.txt | 19:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-09-24-18.07.log.html | 19:02 |
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