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| vineetmenon | hey! can anyone please tell me how to do a previously-approved spec submission? | 06:35 |
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| vineetmenon | does it involves simply appending 'previously-approved: <release-name>' in the commit message? | 06:36 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting horizondrivers | 12:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 12:00:58 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizondrivers)" | 12:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' | 12:01 |
| mrunge | o/ | 12:01 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 12:01 |
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| robcresswell | All your favourite europeans. | 12:01 |
| tsufiev | o/ | 12:01 |
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| david-lyle | Hello everyone | 12:02 |
| david-lyle | couple of quick general items | 12:02 |
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| robcresswell | general items *salutes* | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | then let's clean up some blueprints | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | First, RC-2 is open | 12:03 |
| david-lyle | 1.1.a my internet is still driving me crazy | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/liberty-rc2 | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | two of those are merged | 12:04 |
| david-lyle | one is new | 12:04 |
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| mrunge | that project switching thing is ugly | 12:05 |
| mrunge | but it would be good to have someone to confirm or deny | 12:05 |
| david-lyle | since RC-2 is likely closing later today I'm not sure the other has much chance | 12:05 |
| mrunge | agreed | 12:05 |
| mrunge | although it would be a shame, if one couldn't switch projects | 12:06 |
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| david-lyle | Second the summit session scheduling needs to be finalized in the next week | 12:06 |
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| doug-fish | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-summit | 12:08 |
| david-ly_ | what was the last thing the I typed that went through? | 12:09 |
| doug-fish | Second the summit session scheduling needs to be finalized in the next week | 12:09 |
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| david-ly_ | ok thanks | 12:09 |
| doug-fish | sure np | 12:09 |
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| david-lyle | in the horizon meeting later today we will try to sort through the etherpad | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | either attend if possible, or update with your feedback before then | 12:10 |
| david-lyle | I won't finalize the schedule today, but would like to have a better idea | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | Those are the general bits | 12:11 |
| david-lyle | anyone else? | 12:11 |
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| mrunge | unfortunately, I'm deep in a different meeting right now :( | 12:12 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: no worries | 12:12 |
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| david-lyle | preference for cleaning up old bps or looking at the fresh ones? | 12:13 |
| robcresswell | No preference | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | that helps | 12:13 |
| david-lyle | :P | 12:13 |
| robcresswell | Angular difficult to do in this tz | 12:14 |
| robcresswell | So either python-based new ones, or cull some old ones. | 12:14 |
| david-lyle | sure, let's try to prune from the back end | 12:14 |
| robcresswell | Sorry, no list from me again this week, been in bed for 3 days :( | 12:14 |
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| david-lyle | sorry to hear that, hope you're feeling better | 12:15 |
| robcresswell | Getting there | 12:15 |
| masco | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/replace-sorteddict-with-ordereddict this one has been merged via some bug, so you can remove this | 12:15 |
| mrunge | ah yes, right | 12:16 |
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| robcresswell | Is the last translation to stable/liberty today? | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/replace-sorteddict-with-ordereddict marked superseded | 12:16 |
| robcresswell | translation merge* | 12:16 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: yes, unless we find a good enough reason to open another RC | 12:17 |
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| robcresswell | Nah.. we just dropped the british english translation while I was gone | 12:18 |
| doug-fish | robcresswell: FWIW I'm hoping to see some translation work continue into stable/liberty and maybe get picked up in rc1 ... but | 12:19 |
| doug-fish | the translators haven't really done that before, so not sure how well it's going to be received | 12:19 |
| robcresswell | Ah interesting | 12:20 |
| robcresswell | Anyway, bp to look at :) | 12:20 |
| * robcresswell goes looking | 12:20 | |
| david-lyle | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/service-chaining-support | 12:20 |
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| david-lyle | I was looking at that one, which seemed straightforward, but then looking at the neutron BP, I have no idea what state it's in | 12:21 |
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| masco | AFIK it is in review state only | 12:22 |
| david-lyle | masco: but both patches linked to it are merged | 12:22 |
| doug-fish | but this is some sort of plugin? in a separate repo? | 12:23 |
| masco | those are just API docs | 12:23 |
| doug-fish | for the service part | 12:23 |
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| doug-fish | https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc | 12:23 |
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| david-lyle | ah didn't look at the content of the patches | 12:24 |
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| masco | even i too heard it is plugin | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | not an extension? | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | extension would be ok, plugin would be out of tree | 12:25 |
| david-lyle | from horizon's perspective | 12:26 |
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| doug-fish | I can't read the blueprint and understand what UI changes are needed at all | 12:26 |
| doug-fish | is it a new panel? changes to existing? | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | new panel | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | to show the port chaining | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | I moved to drafting | 12:27 |
| doug-fish | oh - I can't understand because I was reading the wrong blueprint. :-( | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | and left a note for feedback | 12:27 |
| doug-fish | sorry. | 12:27 |
| robcresswell | lol :p | 12:27 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/service-chaining-support marked drafting | 12:28 |
| masco | ok i will check with mohan, if it is plugin i will ask him to move to different tree. | 12:28 |
| david-lyle | thanks masco | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/detecting-browser | 12:29 |
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| david-lyle | this has been around for a while, the proponent is no longer active, and we never arrived at a clear direction | 12:29 |
| david-lyle | I'm personally not sure we need it | 12:30 |
| doug-fish | FWIW I'm not a fan | 12:30 |
| robcresswell | Author appears to have moved on. I removed them from about 70 bugs over the last cycle | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | and would prefer to just drop | 12:30 |
| tsufiev | +1 | 12:30 |
| robcresswell | yup, go ahead | 12:30 |
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| tsufiev | I'd prefer to have feature detection where it's needed, not browser detection | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/detecting-browser marked obsolete | 12:30 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: +1 | 12:31 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, +1, right | 12:31 |
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| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/email-based-password-recovery | 12:31 |
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| david-lyle | going to drop this too | 12:31 |
| masco | from same guy | 12:31 |
| david-lyle | keystone won't support, no reason to place hold | 12:32 |
| robcresswell | yup, drop | 12:32 |
| mrunge | yes, agreed | 12:32 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/email-based-password-recovery marked obsolete | 12:33 |
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| robcresswell | I got a couple that look straightforward | 12:33 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/responsive-stylesheets | 12:34 |
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| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/responsive-stylesheets | 12:34 |
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| * tsufiev curious about hurgleburger plans for that | 12:34 | |
| doug-fish | I thought we had that? | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: she's already moved in that direction | 12:35 |
| doug-fish | at least to some extent | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: sort of | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | We sort-of have it | 12:35 |
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| david-lyle | making progress, but other blueprints | 12:35 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/responsive-stylesheets marked superseded | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | Just using bootstrap gives you some measure of sanity, and the navbar etc has some better responsiveness now | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | But iirc modals are a bit funny | 12:35 |
| robcresswell | along with everything else :p | 12:36 |
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| david-lyle | WIP for sure | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | the header is now responsive | 12:36 |
| david-lyle | :D | 12:36 |
| robcresswell | ANyway that particular bp isn't doing anything useful | 12:36 |
| doug-fish | what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/chassis-based-node-management | 12:36 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, I can hardly imagine anyone browsing Horizon on his smartphone :) | 12:36 |
| doug-fish | I like the idea, but it's quite incomplete | 12:36 |
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| david-lyle | tsufiev: if we ever provide an actual dashboard, I could imagine it | 12:37 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: ha! I think the idea is that ideally, someone could feasibly use a tablet to manage user quotas etc, simpler things. | 12:37 |
| david-lyle | but many laptops now have worse resolution than smartphones | 12:37 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, yes, I can imagine them trying, but not tolerating that for a significant time ;D | 12:37 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, Sony have a 4k smartphone out O.O | 12:38 |
| doug-fish | Has anyone spent time testing on table/smartphone? | 12:38 |
| tsufiev | - | 12:38 |
| doug-fish | I'm wondering about mouseover + file behaviors | 12:38 |
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| david-lyle | doug-fish: it's not been a priority | 12:39 |
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| doug-fish | same - I was just curious | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | although new design work tries to keep it in mind | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | more for tablet than smartphone | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | but same UI constraints | 12:39 |
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| david-lyle | there is a newer bp for ironic panel just added | 12:39 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/chassis-based-node-management | 12:40 |
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| doug-fish | oh cool - do you have the link? | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | but this one is not going anywhere | 12:40 |
| david-lyle | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ironic-horizon-panel | 12:40 |
| doug-fish | thx | 12:41 |
| david-lyle | and an active owner | 12:41 |
| mrunge | that's going to be interesting | 12:41 |
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| doug-fish | how so? | 12:41 |
| mrunge | the ironic one? | 12:42 |
| mrunge | I would expect, we'd need another role | 12:42 |
| mrunge | for infrastructure management | 12:42 |
| doug-fish | got it | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/display-upload-progress | 12:42 |
| mrunge | and there's ironic dashboard | 12:42 |
| robcresswell | Easy cleanup on that bp ^^ imo | 12:42 |
| david-lyle | yeah, we'll have to debate the other bp, but don't need two | 12:43 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, that's the same thing I'm working on right now | 12:43 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/chassis-based-node-management marked superseded | 12:43 |
| tsufiev | in scope of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-glance-large-image-upload | 12:43 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Yup, I remember, though in a different format | 12:43 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/display-upload-progress | 12:43 |
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| david-lyle | wow that's old | 12:44 |
| david-lyle | is that support in v2? | 12:44 |
| david-lyle | *supported | 12:44 |
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| tsufiev | robcresswell, the idea with large image upload is to create image first, then update its metadata with PUT request directly to Glance, bypassing server Horizon | 12:44 |
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| mrunge | all I heard: no, not supported david-lyle | 12:45 |
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| david-lyle | then, let's drop this bp | 12:45 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Sounds great | 12:45 |
| doug-fish | yep | 12:45 |
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| tsufiev | +1 | 12:45 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/display-upload-progress marked obsolete | 12:45 |
| mrunge | still, it's desirable to know, how long your 20 gig windows image will take | 12:45 |
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| robcresswell | 244 bps :D | 12:46 |
| mrunge | but sure, how...? | 12:46 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, yes, I'm implementing progress bar right now | 12:46 |
| david-lyle | we can just guess like windows does | 12:46 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, progress bar is patented, right? | 12:46 |
| mrunge | no funny joke | 12:46 |
| david-lyle | give you a number to feel like something is happending | 12:46 |
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| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/cisco-network-profile-multi-tenants-support | 12:47 |
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| tsufiev | mrunge, let's leave that to lawyers ) | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | I think this needs to go to the cisco repo | 12:47 |
| robcresswell | Drop it | 12:47 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, just go ahead and implement it. | 12:47 |
| robcresswell | Abishek requested it be abandoned last year | 12:47 |
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| robcresswell | in the comments | 12:47 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, ack | 12:47 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/cisco-network-profile-multi-tenants-support marked obsolete | 12:48 |
| doug-fish | mrunge: as long as you don't mind taking legal advice from the internet: http://badpatents.blogspot.com/2011/05/progress-bar.html | 12:48 |
| robcresswell | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/admin-overview-intances-counter | 12:48 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/admin-overview-intances-counter | 12:48 |
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| mrunge | doug-fish, oh, good to know :D | 12:48 |
| tsufiev | doug-fish, yay! | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/admin-overview-intances-counter marked obsolete | 12:49 |
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| doug-fish | Remember: I am not a lawyer. | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | no API provides that information | 12:49 |
| mrunge | :D | 12:49 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-cisco-dfa-support | 12:50 |
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| robcresswell | drop | 12:50 |
| mrunge | +1 | 12:51 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-cisco-dfa-support marked obsolete | 12:51 |
| robcresswell | If there's any Cisco features needed my boss will be telling me anyway :p | 12:51 |
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| robcresswell | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/auto-dropdown | 12:51 |
| doug-fish | Leaves a bit to the imagination, doesn't it? | 12:52 |
| robcresswell | haha | 12:52 |
| david-lyle | I think it's clear | 12:52 |
| tsufiev | I doubt thta anything that opens on hover is a nice UX | 12:52 |
| mrunge | oh | 12:52 |
| robcresswell | It also totally fails on mobile | 12:52 |
| robcresswell | hover-only, that is | 12:53 |
| david-lyle | I don't think we need this | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | I agree | 12:53 |
| mrunge | yes | 12:53 |
| mrunge | +1 | 12:53 |
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| doug-fish | A blueprint that is one controversial sentence! I think that's some sort of record. | 12:53 |
| david-lyle | and don't want to get into platform detections | 12:53 |
| robcresswell | It's also many months old without any code | 12:53 |
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| robcresswell | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/aria-roles Another one | 12:54 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/auto-dropdown | 12:54 |
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| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/auto-dropdown marked obsolete | 12:54 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/aria-roles | 12:54 |
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| doug-fish | hmm, accessibility | 12:55 |
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| tsufiev | doug-fish, robcresswell, not as controversial as previous one | 12:55 |
| robcresswell | Yeah I actually really like the idea of it | 12:55 |
| robcresswell | But, the bp itself is not valuable. | 12:55 |
| doug-fish | I haven't moved forward with anything like that because the effort would be huge | 12:55 |
| doug-fish | right | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | the author has moved on | 12:55 |
| mrunge | I think the author moved | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | it's a valid idea | 12:55 |
| david-lyle | just needs an owner | 12:56 |
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| mrunge | so, drop it and give anybody else to open a new bp | 12:56 |
| robcresswell | doug-fish: https://docs.angularjs.org/api/ngAria | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | dropping on doug-fish | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | I mean dropping | 12:56 |
| david-lyle | :P | 12:56 |
| doug-fish | ouch. | 12:56 |
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| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/aria-roles marked obsolete | 12:57 |
| david-lyle | #topic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/user-support-dashboard | 12:57 |
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| robcresswell | heh | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | We could probably do that with searchlight | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | that's what I commented | 12:58 |
| robcresswell | Ah yes, I see | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/user-support-dashboard marked superseded | 12:58 |
| david-lyle | ok, at time, down to 238 bps | 13:00 |
| david-lyle | thanks everyone! | 13:00 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 13:00 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 13:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 13:00:38 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-10-07-12.00.html | 13:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-10-07-12.00.txt | 13:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2015/horizondrivers.2015-10-07-12.00.log.html | 13:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 15:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| ddieterly | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | role call | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| bklei_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| jimbaker | o/ | 15:00 |
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| ddieterly | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:00 |
| witek | o/ | 15:00 |
| bogdan_ | 0/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | we have a lot of items to cover today | 15:00 |
| Kamil__ | Hello | 15:00 |
| bklei_ | good morning | 15:00 |
| mroderus | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiog | hi | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | let's just try and go in order | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | and see how far we make it through | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | bklei_ you are up first | 15:01 |
| tomasztrebski | let's roll out | 15:01 |
| bklei_ | cool | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | #topic twc | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "twc (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| bklei_ | performance update on vertica | 15:01 |
| bklei_ | the bug is part of the issue, but not the whole thing | 15:01 |
| bklei_ | i put details in the agenda, but highlights include: cache where possible, try pre-join projections, and keep vertica on it's own box | 15:02 |
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| bklei_ | and avoid that gnarly multiple inner join query -- requires alot more of the planner | 15:02 |
| bklei_ | and some minor encoding changes in projections | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i thought you had tried removing the inner join, and didn't see much of an improvement | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | i realize it helps, but not nearly enough | 15:03 |
| bklei_ | minor improvement -- something like 20 to 30 % | 15:03 |
| bklei_ | but it adds up during concurrent queries | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | ok, so if we remove the inner joins, it would be nice to address deklan's comments related to converting over everywhere too | 15:03 |
| bklei_ | (and 'queries' includes the copy/merge stuff) | 15:04 |
| bklei_ | ok -- can do that -- not sure where else that needs to change, haven't seen any other ones in the profiler | 15:04 |
| bklei_ | but can look at the code | 15:04 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm not sure what it all includes, but we use the inner joins in multiple locations | 15:04 |
| bklei_ | ok -- will look and amend the patch i have up | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, thanks, let us know if you have any questions and we can help | 15:05 |
| bklei_ | but -- we've talked about caching definition_dimension_id before -- would like to ask for help there | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | so, what else should we try | 15:05 |
| bklei_ | any resource avail at HP to help there? | 15:05 |
| bklei_ | i know you had some ideas there | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | probably not this week | 15:05 |
| bklei_ | (roland/deklan) | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | we are wrapping up a release | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | but, maybe next week | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | will have to check | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | would you recommend the caching as the next alternative to try? | 15:06 |
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| bklei_ | i'm thinking in parallel -- if hp picks up caching, i'll work on projections? | 15:07 |
| bklei_ | and inner join removal | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll discuss with deklan and see what we can come up with on this side to help | 15:07 |
| bklei_ | bueno | 15:07 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, moving along | 15:07 |
| bklei_ | i think that covers performance | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | #topic libvirt | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "libvirt (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:08 | |
| bklei_ | would like to see this merge if possible https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225337/ | 15:08 |
| bklei_ | we've hit it several times at twc -- any blockers/objections to getting in? | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i see a bungh of +1, so it looks like it is ready | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | no objections | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | assuming you need a tag too? | 15:09 |
| bklei_ | cool | 15:09 |
| bklei_ | por favor | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | ok, just +2'd | 15:09 |
| bklei_ | awesome -- other libvirt topic | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | ping me if i forget to tag | 15:09 |
| bklei_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+bug/1491903 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491903 in Monasca "libvirt plugin shows 100% CPU for an instance running at 6%" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to David Schroeder (david-schroeder) | 15:09 |
| bklei_ | wondering what we can do to help get more inof | 15:10 |
| bklei_ | sort of stuck on this one | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | not exactly sure | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | strange that this is isolated to load balancer instances | 15:10 |
| bklei_ | talking to david m -- he thought i could provide a libvirt dumpxml | 15:10 |
| bklei_ | that may have other info for david s to digest | 15:11 |
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| bklei_ | i can add that to the ticket today, beyond that i don't know what else to provide | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think we are waiting on david to respond to this | 15:11 |
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| bklei_ | yeah | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | i can ping him | 15:12 |
| bklei_ | thx -- and i'll add the dumpxml | 15:12 |
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| rhochmuth | but this sounds like a pretty nasty area and difficult to diagnose | 15:12 |
| bklei_ | yeah, a bit of a black hole | 15:12 |
| bklei_ | keeping moving | 15:13 |
| bklei_ | #topic monasca-ui | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | sure | 15:13 |
| bklei_ | i have no power i guess | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic client versions | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "client versions (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:13 | |
| rhochmuth | monasca-ui test fragility (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231071/ as an example). We should pin to client versions? | 15:14 |
| bklei_ | monasca-ui seems fragile, most times i push a patch, tests fail because we don't pin clients/oslo | 15:14 |
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| bklei_ | it's fixed today, just want to try to pin more in the future | 15:14 |
| bklei_ | specifically stuff in test_requirements.txt | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | sounds like a good idea | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | we've been doing that in other parts of monasca | 15:14 |
| bklei_ | i'll try to do that in my patches, just a public service announcement | 15:14 |
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| bklei_ | good pip practice | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i agree | 15:14 |
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| bklei_ | pipin' ain't easy :) | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | we've been running into issues lately with oslo | 15:15 |
| bklei_ | yeah, it's messy | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think we need to lock down versions | 15:15 |
| bklei_ | but i'm not blocked now, someone merged a change that fixed it | 15:15 |
| bklei_ | i rebased, good now | 15:15 |
| bklei_ | moving on | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | #topic libvirt | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "libvirt (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:16 | |
| rhochmuth | libvirt over-reporting bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+bug/1491903) -- how to move along? | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491903 in Monasca "libvirt plugin shows 100% CPU for an instance running at 6%" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to David Schroeder (david-schroeder) | 15:16 |
| bklei_ | done with libvirt -- memory bug | 15:16 |
| bklei_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/monasca/+bug/1498188 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1498188 in Monasca "Memory/swap metrics recorded in wrong size" [Undecided,Invalid] | 15:16 |
| bklei_ | this got closed along with another as invalid -- would be good to have an explanation as to why invalid | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | if i recall correctly, we report memory utilization is mb | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | that is just the convention we've used so far | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | if you wnat to fave another unit reported that isn't a bug | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | right? | 15:18 |
| bklei_ | yeah, and grafana in it's current incantation doesn't supprot that as an axis option | 15:18 |
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| bklei_ | so we just don't put units on those graphs | 15:18 |
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| bklei_ | not a biggie -- but seems like good practice to say why the bug(s) are invalid when closing | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think we need someway to change the default reporting convention | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | i'll talk to alan | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | i agree, he could have provided more description | 15:19 |
| bklei_ | it could be grafana 2... will fix this | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | i thought he was going to do that | 15:19 |
| bklei_ | cool | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | so, if grafana 2 resolves, do we need to address in the agent | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | seems like the presentation layer should be able to handle this | 15:19 |
| bklei_ | no -- that one would take care of itself i think | 15:20 |
| bklei_ | agreed | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | if not, then a new switch in the agent to change the units that are reported would be one way | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | i dont' think we can/should change the convention | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | in other words need backwards compaibility | 15:20 |
| bklei_ | agree | 15:20 |
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| bklei_ | i'm not finding the other memory bug that b. stilwell opened, but it was more about memory used -- and it got closed in the same way w/out explanation | 15:21 |
| rbak | It looks like grafana 2 does offer a MB axis option | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | ok, so sounds like action is check on grafana 2 and if still doesn't address, then add a new switch to agent | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | #rbak cool | 15:21 |
| bklei_ | sounds good | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | so, are we good then | 15:21 |
| bklei_ | twc is done i think | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | i think we need a weekly meeting just for twc | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:22 |
| bklei_ | sorry | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | no problem | 15:22 |
| bklei_ | we love and use monasca man! | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | #topic summit | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | #fabiog u r up | 15:22 |
| fabiog | ok | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | how that for some irc foo | 15:22 |
| fabiog | I will be quick | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | yes | 15:23 |
| fabiog | Congress team gracefully agreed to meet with us and they are going to use one of their slot to hold a joint meeting | 15:23 |
| fabiog | they only have 3 slots all on Wed | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | awesome, thanks for coordinating that | 15:23 |
| fabiog | as soon as I know which one is assigned to us, I will notify it to the team here | 15:24 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: no problem | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:24 |
| bogdan_ | Is anyone wellcome to join? | 15:24 |
| fabiog | yes | 15:24 |
| bogdan_ | :) | 15:24 |
| fabiog | bogdan_: sure | 15:24 |
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| bogdan_ | I'd love to | 15:24 |
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| rhochmuth | all sessions are open to everyone | 15:24 |
| fabiog | on top of that I managed to get Cisco to give us a room for a Monasca meeting | 15:24 |
| bogdan_ | cool | 15:24 |
| fabiog | so we can have a meeting and discuss few topics | 15:25 |
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| rhochmuth | on a related topic, i still need to check with Searchlight | 15:25 |
| fabiog | is going to be on Thu 4:30pm to 6pm | 15:25 |
| fabiog | I will send the details as soon as I get the room number | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | there is also a session being proposed by Ceilometer on Aodh | 15:25 |
| bogdan_ | when? | 15:26 |
| fabiog | it is really tough to get space this time, I guess the Tokyo venue is even smaller than Paris | 15:26 |
| fabiog | bogdan_: Thursday 4:30pm to 6pm | 15:26 |
| fabiog | bogdan_: Thu 10/29 | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | so, in summary, looks like we'll have some good sessions | 15:27 |
| fabiog | at least 3 | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | i'll check with travis tripp on searchlight | 15:27 |
| witek | #info Session at the Design Summit. Thursday 4:30pm to 6pm local time | 15:27 |
| fabiog | Ceilometer, Congress and one for us or overflow of the other two | 15:27 |
| fabiog | witek: thanks!! | 15:27 |
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| fabiog | rhochmuth: I am done | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | i'm sure after the presentations there will be lot's of requests for more meetings | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | this happened to me in Paris | 15:28 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: yup | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | so, with all the monasca sessions, expect lot's of impromtu requests for meetings | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | we'll need to share phone numbers and contact info to coordinate | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic InfluxDB | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "InfluxDB (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:29 | |
| rhochmuth | fabio take it away on InfluxDB | 15:30 |
| fabiog | let's get 0.9.4.2 !!! | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | is srini working on this? | 15:30 |
| fabiog | we have been playing with the newer versions of InfluxSV | 15:30 |
| fabiog | DB | 15:30 |
| fabiog | yes | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | so, what have you measure for the latest influxdb performance | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | as in raw performance? | 15:31 |
| fabiog | and we noticed that there is a huge performance difference between 0.9.1 and 0.9.4.x | 15:31 |
| fabiog | yes | 15:31 |
| fabiog | especially in writing | 15:31 |
| fabiog | it is at least a factor of 10 | 15:31 |
| bogdan_ | difference means increase? | 15:31 |
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| fabiog | bogdan_: I mean roughly 10 times faster | 15:31 |
| bogdan_ | thx | 15:31 |
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| fabiog | we use it in the Ceilosca context and it worked fine | 15:31 |
| mroderus | fabiog: was performance the only reason to try out 0.9.4.2? | 15:32 |
| fabiog | but we really haven't done any extensive testing for Monasca outside the part that interests Ceilosca | 15:32 |
| fabiog | mroderus: yes | 15:32 |
| bklei_ | 0.9.5 sounds promising with the time structured merge tree stuff too fabiog | 15:32 |
| fabiog | bklei_: we will try that one when it comes out | 15:32 |
| bklei_ | hope it's not a step back in terms of cluster stability... | 15:32 |
| fabiog | for now Srini is going to patch the Ansible script to use 0.9.4.2 | 15:33 |
| fabiog | then we need to see it all the Monasca tests pass or not | 15:33 |
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| fabiog | is Cray in the meeting? | 15:33 |
| fabiog | they were doing some tests with the latest version of Influx ... | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | is was hoping bmotz was here | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | but i don't see listed | 15:33 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: nevermind | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | anyway, he had mentioned that somethign had changed between some versino of influxdb | 15:34 |
| fabiog | I think the stability and performance of 0.9.4.x is a big improvement, so we should do it anyway | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | yes, and they were running with the latest inclusdb | 15:34 |
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| fabiog | rhochmuth: inclusdb? | 15:34 |
| fabiog | :-) | 15:34 |
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| fabiog | so, please watch this space | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | if srini updates and we are pretty sure there aren't any issues, then we'll gladly take it | 15:35 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: that is the idea | 15:35 |
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| fabiog | we are going to change it in the "mini-mon" Ansible script and see if it works | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | will twc be able to do some testing? | 15:35 |
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| tomasztrebski | we 'd be interested in that as well 'cause we were about to start with the same thing, so it's to hear that is in progress as we speak | 15:35 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: also I think it would be good to have a parameter for the devstack where you can specify the version | 15:36 |
| tomasztrebski | *good to hear | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | the other issue around influxdb is support for binary protocol | 15:36 |
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| fabiog | so in the future you can decide which version to run setting it in the local.conf | 15:36 |
| ddieterly | we don't have a local.conf in mini-mon | 15:37 |
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| fabiog | ddieterly: no I am talking about devstack | 15:38 |
| ddieterly | ok | 15:38 |
| fabiog | ddieterly: it would be cool to have a shell variable where you can express the version of Influx so then when devstack runs it will pick and install the one you want | 15:39 |
| bklei_ | twc probably won't do much influxdb testing for a couple of months rhochmuth | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | blkei_: ok | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | is it time for next topic? | 15:40 |
| witek | fabiog: did you test clustering and/or HA? | 15:40 |
| fabiog | witek: not yet | 15:40 |
| fabiog | witek: as I mentioned I just tested in the context of Ceilosca, which is a devstack implementation of Ceilometer and Monasca | 15:40 |
| fabiog | witek: but after the summit we will deploy a more complex version | 15:40 |
| witek | thanks | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | fabiog: but the change in ansible role will be soon available ? I just checked and it's not at github at the moment | 15:41 |
| fabiog | witek: I also want to try Monasca in Containers | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | ? | 15:41 |
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| fabiog | tomasztrebski: I have to check with Srini | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | fabiog: thx | 15:42 |
| fabiog | tomasztrebski: np | 15:42 |
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| Kamil__ | monasca in containers +1 | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | yeah, that would nice to see how that goes :) | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | are you aware of monasca-docker | 15:42 |
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| Kamil__ | not really | 15:43 |
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| rhochmuth | https://github.com/hpcloud-mon/monasca-docker | 15:43 |
| Kamil__ | cool.. thx | 15:43 |
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| rhochmuth | it is a demo environment primarily | 15:43 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: is that a single instance of all the services, like kafka and influx? | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | i've taken a quick peek there, but did not run it actually, but I assume that's a demo env / | 15:43 |
| fabiog | rhochmuth: can it be scaled out? | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | of some sort ? | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | it is not clustered and really for demo purposes | 15:43 |
| bogdan_ | tomasztrebski: are you asking Fabio about ansible because you're working on the same thing and you want to avoid working redundantly? | 15:44 |
| Kamil__ | rhochmuth: But at the end, ansible is still provisioned in container, or not? | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | it uses ansible to provision in the container i beleive | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | i haven't spent time looking into how it works | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | i used it a few times | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | next topic? | 15:46 |
| fabiog | sure | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | #topic security | 15:46 |
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| mroderus | that's mine | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | 5. Security: clear-text passwords in agent config | 15:46 |
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| tomasztrebski | bogdan_: I wrote you on priv to clear the ground here | 15:46 |
| mroderus | our sec department mentioned that in the agent config files, passwords are written in clear text | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:47 |
| mroderus | has this issue been discussed before? | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | they are clear text everywhere in Monasca | 15:47 |
| mroderus | do you see it as a security issue as well? | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | we've done our own internal security reviews | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | but we haven't discussed with community | 15:47 |
| mroderus | has it been addressed as an issue in your internal reviews? | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | yes | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | we don't see it as an issue | 15:48 |
| mroderus | TWC: do you see this as a problem? | 15:48 |
| bklei_ | no -- file perms are enough for us | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | but, if your security team at Fujitsu sees this as an issue, then it could be addressed | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | bklei_ same here | 15:49 |
| mroderus | yes, let's see first what comes out in our internal discussions | 15:49 |
| mroderus | thanks rhochmuth and bklei_ | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | mroderus sounds good | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | i understand the concerns | 15:50 |
| bklei_ | +1 | 15:50 |
| tomasztrebski | as for the file permission, mroderus I think we might want to adress that we are also taking look at it | 15:50 |
| mroderus | ok# | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | if your security team doesn't agree then we could look into encrypting the password | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | as a new feature | 15:50 |
| tomasztrebski | the same sec team spotted that as well that file permissions are not so consistent, so we've taken a look here and try to modify them as much as possible | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | ok, let us know if you find anything | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | we are definitely interested in addressing issues there | 15:51 |
| mroderus | ok.. if security becomes a greater issue, we may start a separate meeting on this | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | #topic log api | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | so i see the python log api has been posted | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | i left some comments | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm wondering if we should just get this merged and then start improving it | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | working on it ... | 15:53 |
| tomasztrebski | I am all for it, just want to address current issues you written comments for. | 15:53 |
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| rhochmuth | well, i think it is a work in progress, so I don't want to be too critical at this point and hold up progress | 15:54 |
| tomasztrebski | + it looks like problematic services.py (the one from monasca-common) can be abandoned | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | yes | 15:54 |
| tomasztrebski | according to constant you pointed out as obsolete | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:54 |
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| tomasztrebski | ok, thx for the feedback, feeling awesome with that :), I will apply changes and post new PS as soon as I can | 15:55 |
| bogdan_ | tomasztrebski: by when you plan to finish what's been commented? | 15:55 |
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| tomasztrebski | bogdan_: tommorow, that seems like light task to handle | 15:56 |
| witek | tomasztrebski: so i think we can wait for your PS and merge | 15:56 |
| tomasztrebski | witek: that's fine with me | 15:56 |
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| bogdan_ | rhochmuth: fair to you? | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | sounds good | 15:56 |
| bogdan_ | great | 15:56 |
| tomasztrebski | cool | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic paging issues | 15:57 |
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| tomasztrebski | yeah, that's one for me | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | not sure if we can continue at top of the hour | 15:57 |
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| tomasztrebski | that's not so easy to explain | 15:58 |
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| witek | lets move it to the next meeting | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:58 |
| bklei_ | before we part | 15:58 |
| bklei_ | would like some reviews/love on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231587/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231071/ | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | +1 | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | #topic devstack | 15:58 |
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| rhochmuth | how are you doing deklan | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | on devstack | 15:58 |
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| ddieterly | basic monasca working in devstack | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | awesome | 15:59 |
| ddieterly | java api and persister | 15:59 |
| ddieterly | working on python api and persister now | 15:59 |
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| ddieterly | please +1 and +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229523/ | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | ok, will start to review | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | also, please checkout out the Tempest tests | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | still a wrok in progress, but i would like to get first commit | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | approved soon | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think we're done | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | i'll need to close the meeting out | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | we got rushed at the end | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | so follow-up if you need to | 16:00 |
| bklei_ | thx guys | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | bye everyone | 16:00 |
| Kamil__ | have a nice day | 16:00 |
| mroderus | thanks | 16:00 |
| mroderus | bye | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | thx | 16:00 |
| bogdan_ | cheers! | 16:00 |
| ddieterly | ciao | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 16:00:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-10-07-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-10-07-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2015/monasca.2015-10-07-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| melwitt | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 17:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| melwitt | anyone around for cells today? | 17:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 17:00 |
| melwitt | ping bauzas | 17:01 |
| melwitt | #topic open discussion | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:01 | |
| lalitd | o/ | 17:01 |
| belmoreira | I have some questions | 17:02 |
| melwitt | we'll just do open discussion today | 17:02 |
| belmoreira | :) | 17:02 |
| belmoreira | when can we resubmit the spec again for the flavors? | 17:02 |
| melwitt | I think you can do that now, but I thought I saw one already re-approved | 17:03 |
| * bauzas waves lately | 17:03 | |
| belmoreira | oh great, maybe lalitd? | 17:03 |
| melwitt | I'm looking for it | 17:03 |
| melwitt | this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231858/ | 17:03 |
| lalitd | yes its regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213041/ | 17:03 |
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| belmoreira | great... miss communication between us. sorry | 17:04 |
| melwitt | cool, just wanted to make sure there wasn't another flavors one you were talking about | 17:04 |
| bauzas | mmm, the spec is approved for mitaka ? | 17:04 |
| bauzas | I see it merged | 17:05 |
| lalitd | melwitt: the patch is passing all unit and functional tests but still problem in grenade and tempest tests | 17:05 |
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| belmoreira | bauzas: is there something that you would like to change? | 17:05 |
| bauzas | belmoreira: nope just asking | 17:06 |
| bauzas | lalitd: ping me around 6.30pm UTC, I'll look at the grenade job | 17:06 |
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| lalitd | bauzas: thanks but it will be 12:00 AM in india :) | 17:07 |
| bauzas | lalitd: then tomorrow afternoon your time | 17:08 |
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| bauzas | okay, moving on ? | 17:09 |
| melwitt | sure. anyone have any other topics? | 17:09 |
| bauzas | so, now that we have mitaka open, we should discuss on the features we want to implement | 17:09 |
| bauzas | I'm just looking at the specs | 17:10 |
| vineetmenon | john just approved that.. | 17:10 |
| bauzas | I know that alaski_out was thinking about rewriting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214792/ | 17:11 |
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| bauzas | so we have the persisting spec | 17:12 |
| lalitd | bauzas: can we meet tomorrow at same time 1030 IST ... | 17:12 |
| lalitd | tomorrow afternoon some of my office meeting is there | 17:13 |
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| bauzas | lalitd: too early for me (CEST) | 17:13 |
| bauzas | lalitd: but I'll look at your change tonight | 17:13 |
| bauzas | anyway, so my point is about the mitaka design summit and see whether we need to discuss on something not already accepted | 17:14 |
| bauzas | melwitt: thoughts on that? | 17:14 |
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| melwitt | well, one thing I was wondering recently is, are we going to be migrating everything to the api db and do we need specs for every piece of that? | 17:15 |
| bauzas | melwitt: if we use the objects, I don't think so | 17:16 |
| bauzas | since it could be a live migration | 17:16 |
| lalitd | bauzas: thanks , ok then I will ping you at 6:30pm UTC | 17:16 |
| bauzas | I mean an online migration | 17:16 |
| bauzas | lalitd: nevermind | 17:17 |
| melwitt | bauzas: I was thinking of the schema migrations, creating the tables in the api db | 17:17 |
| bauzas | melwitt: then a spec is needed I guess | 17:17 |
| bauzas | melwitt: but we could ask johnthetubaguy | 17:17 |
| melwitt | I setup devstack the other day and so far we have cell_mappings host_mappings instance_mappings in the api db | 17:18 |
| bauzas | melwitt: right, that still leaves the global tables like aggregates to move on | 17:19 |
| lalitd | melwitt: then what will happen to old migration scripts which are part of patches | 17:19 |
| lalitd | just for info | 17:19 |
| melwitt | lalitd: what do you mean by the old migration scripts? | 17:20 |
| bauzas | melwitt: anyway, I guess we should still consider what to move, and that's why some specs could be needed | 17:20 |
| bauzas | melwitt: I'm also concerned by the online data migration and the contract action | 17:21 |
| bauzas | melwitt: so, I think you made a very valid point | 17:21 |
| melwitt | bauzas: yeah, me too. I'm not clear on what we need to do here. I thought we're going to have to add the global tables to the api db and not sure how to start that, other than the flavors patches we already have going on | 17:22 |
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| lalitd | melwitt: in patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201606/14 it includes migration script like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201606/14/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api_migrations/migrate_repo/versions/004_flavors.py , is it same ? | 17:24 |
| bauzas | melwitt: so we need to prepare ourselves to follow the story | 17:24 |
| melwitt | and also when the global tables need to be added. that is, is the goal to get a simple nova boot working with a single cell before we get all the global api tables done? | 17:24 |
| bauzas | melwitt: that's my thoughts, one single cellsv2 with a single boot | 17:24 |
| melwitt | bauzas: right, but is getting all the api db tables done a prerequisite? I'm not clear on that | 17:24 |
| melwitt | I was starting to think of all the build steps, "save X in the api db", "pick a cell to schedule", "save Y in the cell db" and those interactions | 17:25 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: well, for one cell, sure you don't need that | 17:26 |
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| bauzas | melwitt: but you should still have that done at one moment | 17:26 |
| melwitt | bauzas: okay, I think that was my misunderstanding | 17:26 |
| bauzas | melwitt: the scheduling bits are the ones that are a bit worrying me for Mitaka | 17:26 |
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| vineetmenon | bauzas: any updates on scheduling? | 17:27 |
| bauzas | melwitt: given our upgrade process, I'd be far in favor of doing the migrations earlier than later | 17:27 |
| vineetmenon | is alaski handling those? | 17:27 |
| melwitt | lalitd: yeah, I was trying to say we'll need more of them, one for each of the other global tables | 17:28 |
| bauzas | melwitt: while the scheduling bits are just an API contraxt | 17:28 |
| bauzas | contract | 17:28 |
| bauzas | vineetmenon: it's not tracked for the moment | 17:28 |
| lalitd | melwitt: okk | 17:28 |
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| bauzas | vineetmenon: tbc, http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/approved/cells-scheduling-interaction.html is the only one we merged | 17:29 |
| melwitt | bauzas: yeah, true | 17:29 |
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| vineetmenon | bauzas: so still a long way to go.. | 17:29 |
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| bauzas | vineetmenon: and only a few resources yeah you got it | 17:30 |
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| bauzas | so, I'd say for mitaka | 17:31 |
| bauzas | - db migrations | 17:31 |
| bauzas | (incl. flavors) | 17:31 |
| bauzas | - scheduling bits given in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/approved/cells-scheduling-interaction.html | 17:32 |
| vineetmenon | +1 | 17:32 |
| bauzas | ... and that's basically it | 17:32 |
| bauzas | keep it simple | 17:32 |
| melwitt | that sounds good to me | 17:32 |
| bauzas | because | 17:32 |
| bauzas | for db migrations, we need to do as a best effort wayt | 17:33 |
| bauzas | for scheduling bits, we need to land the spec object usage + persist it + doing the above spec | 17:33 |
| bauzas | just by saying the above, that's already pretty pedantic | 17:33 |
| bauzas | in other words, I don't more work than the current planned ones | 17:35 |
| bauzas | I don't see* | 17:35 |
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| bauzas | we just need to make sure that all the existing specs are mitaka-approved | 17:35 |
| bauzas | and we should consider some new specs for the global tables we consider needing to be moved to the api db | 17:35 |
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| melwitt | agreed | 17:36 |
| lalitd | +1 | 17:36 |
| bauzas | okay | 17:36 |
| bauzas | I'll need to jump off for a bit | 17:36 |
| melwitt | any other topics today? | 17:36 |
| bauzas | but I'll be back in a few | 17:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | wonders if he can answer a question? | 17:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | melwitt: something about a spec? | 17:37 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: it was about some db migrations we need to land | 17:37 |
| bauzas | since that's db migrations, that requires a spec AFAIU | 17:37 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: oh, we were just talking about the cells api db global tables. if we'll need a spec per global table migration, I assumed so | 17:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | we usually require a spec for those, mostly just so operators have a chance to tell us we are crazy | 17:38 |
| bauzas | like we did for the flavor bits | 17:38 |
| melwitt | we were thinking about what are the specs we still need t owrite | 17:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 17:38 |
| bauzas | that's why I feel a spec by table isn't overkill | 17:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | so feel free to group them, if thats more efficient | 17:38 |
| bauzas | becuase we could argue per table | 17:38 |
| bauzas | but we could ask for specific fast-approval | 17:39 |
| bauzas | again, my main worries are not about the expand bits | 17:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its easier for me if there is one big one that gets done quickly-ish, but I am open to ideas | 17:39 |
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| bauzas | rather the online data migration and the contract bits | 17:39 |
| bauzas | I feel we can discuss that somewhat later with ala | 17:40 |
| bauzas | alaski_out: | 17:40 |
| bauzas | heh | 17:40 |
| melwitt | yeah. at least so far, with flavors we have the expand and the online migrations in the same spec series | 17:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | I would focus on the regular migrations, and make sure they are purely addative | 17:40 |
| bauzas | that's not super urgent | 17:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, wait, online data migrations right? | 17:40 |
| melwitt | the contract, I don't think we're covering at all at this point | 17:40 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: sure, but that would still leave an open question about the existing data | 17:41 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: eg. if we move the aggregates table | 17:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | any online migration needs a nova-manage command to do the migration, with a throttling param | 17:41 |
| bauzas | yeah that | 17:41 |
| bauzas | I need to drop off now | 17:42 |
| bauzas | ttyl | 17:42 |
| melwitt | seeya bauzas | 17:42 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: that's a good reminder | 17:42 |
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| lalitd | by bauzas | 17:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its is an interesting one, so we have a servers table in the API cell now I guess? | 17:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we are assuming folks add the API database I guess, I wonder if we should add the child cell database, that could well be stupid | 17:43 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: no, instances will be in the cell db. and in the api db will contain mappings | 17:44 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: the current state of the api db has only tables: cell_mappings, host_mappings, instance_mappings | 17:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I have a feeling alaski was having another idea for the initial create | 17:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | having a full instance record, then doing a move to the cell, and deleting it from the API at that point | 17:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | so a swap for a full record to a mapping, so its still only ever in one place at once | 17:45 |
| melwitt | the request spec is supposed to act that way | 17:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, he may have changed his mind about changing his mind | 17:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, just thinking out loud really | 17:46 |
| melwitt | I might be wrong :) I need to consult with alaski again | 17:47 |
| vineetmenon | ha | 17:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | me too | 17:47 |
| lalitd | johnthetubaguy: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213041/ patch for flavor migration a new option is added in file https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213041/18/nova/cmd/manage.py | 17:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | lalitd: yeah, that looks good | 17:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, didn't mean to extend the meeting, honest! | 17:48 |
| lalitd | cool | 17:48 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: it's cool, glad you joined :) | 17:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | back to the other bit, feel free to submit the specs in whatever way is easiest, let me know what works for you all | 17:49 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: will do, thanks | 17:49 |
| vineetmenon | cool.. thanks for joining johnthetubaguy | 17:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | it sounds like a spec that just has a list of tables that will be copied into the APi database would do the trick :) | 17:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | no problems | 17:50 |
| melwitt | cool | 17:50 |
| melwitt | anything else today? | 17:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I should really go an cook my dinner, before I have to head off to my tuba/brass band rehearsal! | 17:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks for keeping cells stuff moving forward all, great stuff! | 17:51 |
| melwitt | johnthetubaguy: nice, have fun | 17:51 |
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| melwitt | okay, guess that's it. thanks all! | 17:51 |
| melwitt | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 17:51:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-10-07-17.00.html | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-10-07-17.00.txt | 17:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2015/nova_cells.2015-10-07-17.00.log.html | 17:52 |
| vineetmenon | bye all | 17:52 |
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| sc68cal | hi all | 18:32 |
| xgerman | o/ | 18:32 |
| mickeys | hi | 18:32 |
| SridarK | Hi All | 18:32 |
| * pc_m lurking | 18:32 | |
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| bharathm | Hi | 18:32 |
| jwarendt | hi | 18:32 |
| madhu_ak | o/ | 18:32 |
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| annp | Hi | 18:32 |
| njohnston | o/ | 18:32 |
| vishwanathj | hello | 18:32 |
| vichoward | o/ | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting networking_fwaas | 18:32 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 18:32:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:32 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:32 |
| sc68cal | #topic recap last meeting actions | 18:32 |
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| hoangcx | Hi | 18:33 |
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| sc68cal | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-10-01-00.01.html Previous meeting minutes | 18:33 |
| sc68cal | SridarK: I set 139124 as invalid since the reporter hasn't come back | 18:34 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: yes sounds good | 18:34 |
| sc68cal | SridarK: so that sets a clock on the bug before it gets closed | 18:34 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: makes sense, i think this should go away | 18:34 |
| sc68cal | yep, worst case it'll automatically in 60 days | 18:34 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 18:35 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: how did your investigation go | 18:36 |
| xgerman | I made a fix | 18:36 |
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| xgerman | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231246/ | 18:36 |
| sc68cal | SridarK: sorry, I meant 1496244 in my previous lines | 18:36 |
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| xgerman | that will enable quotas + I have the unit tests to proof it ;-) | 18:37 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: oh yes got it no worries | 18:37 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: awesome. I'll make sure to review before next meeting | 18:37 |
| lalitd | bauzas: r u there? | 18:38 |
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| bauzas | lalitd: please move to -noba | 18:38 |
| sc68cal | As for me, I compared the trello board and the etherpad | 18:38 |
| sc68cal | The items we have in the etherpad corresponded to items we had in the trello board, so we aren't missing anything, with the exception of DVR and FwaaS compatability | 18:39 |
| sc68cal | so I added a trello card for it, just to sync the two | 18:39 |
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| sc68cal | mickeys: I did review the API chances in the other etherpad, I have some concerns that I'll figure out a better time to go over | 18:40 |
| sc68cal | probably the ML | 18:40 |
| mickeys | sc68cal: ok | 18:40 |
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| sc68cal | #info Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/FWaaS | 18:40 |
| sc68cal | #topic bugs | 18:40 |
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| sc68cal | fresh one here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1503642 | 18:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503642 in neutron "Firewall-Update command help content does not display "admin_state_up" argument" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to James Arendt (james-arendt-7) | 18:41 |
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| xgerman | jwarendt anything you want to add? | 18:42 |
| jwarendt | Yes, the call lobs any parameter across. The ones that work - name, description, admin_state, shared | 18:42 |
| jwarendt | Ones that aren't recognized ex: --foo-bar hit the server and rejected as unrecognized attributes | 18:43 |
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| jwarendt | Ones with 'allow_put = False' rejected as read-only. | 18:43 |
| Swami | hi | 18:43 |
| jwarendt | This means none of those are documented in the default help settings for the python-cli. So question is whether to add them all? | 18:44 |
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| sc68cal | So this bug looks more like an opinion | 18:45 |
| jwarendt | I.e. can update the name or the description, not just admin_state_up, and also not documented. | 18:45 |
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| jwarendt | I can add explicit parser parameters with help for all of the valid at the REST boundary values, if that has value. | 18:46 |
| sc68cal | jwarendt: I think that has value | 18:46 |
| xgerman | help is a good function to have given the state of the docs | 18:46 |
| xgerman | sc68cal +1 | 18:46 |
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| SridarK | jwarendt: yes if the server can understand it - it is picked up | 18:47 |
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| SridarK | but adding this has value for sure | 18:47 |
| jwarendt | Ok - will add explicit values across the board. | 18:48 |
| SridarK | jwarendt: +1 | 18:49 |
| xgerman | +1 | 18:49 |
| sc68cal | jwarendt: thanks :) | 18:50 |
| sc68cal | Which bharath reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1501597 ? | 18:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501597 in neutron "Adding Brocade Vyatta 5600 support in Neutron-Fwaas" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to bharath (bharath-7) | 18:50 |
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| bharathm | Not me | 18:51 |
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| SridarK | :-) | 18:51 |
| xgerman | yeah, bharath-7 - so we know there are 5 more | 18:52 |
| sc68cal | Basically, I understand that brocade wants to add support for their driver, but during the Mitaka release I really want to push the drivers into their own repos, similar to the vendor decomp that was done in neutron main tree | 18:52 |
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| SridarK | sc68cal: +1 this is the thought process on our vendor stuff as well | 18:53 |
| sc68cal | So, I just want to try and give everone the heads up that we should be moving in that direction | 18:53 |
| xgerman | but wouldn’t that be independent from the bug system which repo they land | 18:53 |
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| xgerman | so they could still file bugs/RfE in FWaaS but the code would land in their own repo | 18:54 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: correct. I think it's just that the patches to add support for their newer image, got me thinking about trying to get them to decomp | 18:54 |
| xgerman | cool - that’s what i thought. Just wanted to clarify... | 18:54 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: there probab is a widget or attribute to mark it for a specific vendor on LP as well | 18:55 |
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| sc68cal | anyway, any other bugs to discuss? | 18:57 |
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| sc68cal | #topic blueprints | 18:58 |
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| sc68cal | I added a link for doing a LP query for RFE bugs | 18:58 |
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| sc68cal | #link https://goo.gl/RZeEJp RFE bugs with "FwaaS" | 18:58 |
| sc68cal | If anyone has an RFE or bug they want to discuss, here's your chance | 18:59 |
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| xgerman | looking at this list we really need to decide on priorities | 19:00 |
| xgerman | #action xgerman take a stab at assigning priorities | 19:01 |
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| jwarendt | +1 | 19:01 |
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| sc68cal | +1 | 19:01 |
| SridarK | +1 | 19:02 |
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| SridarK | i think we pull more things here | 19:02 |
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| SridarK | i guess the new stuff is really logging and classifiers | 19:03 |
| SridarK | and Brocade | 19:03 |
| sc68cal | and DVR | 19:03 |
| SridarK | but surely prioritization is needed | 19:03 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: yes | 19:03 |
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| mickeys | classifiers are intertwined with the new API, from the FWaaS perspective | 19:04 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 19:05 |
| SridarK | with some discussions during the summit - may be on Fri we take a deep breath and get a good first stab at priorities | 19:05 |
| xgerman | sounds good | 19:05 |
| sc68cal | yeah that sounds like a good plan | 19:06 |
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| xgerman | but we also should architect + figure out milestones | 19:06 |
| SridarK | yes certainly | 19:06 |
| sc68cal | I feel bad that a lot of things are in stasis until the summit, but I think a lot of these conversations will be easier at the summit | 19:06 |
| sc68cal | just due to higher bandwidth | 19:06 |
| xgerman | agreed + we should aim for a midcycle | 19:07 |
| sc68cal | ++ for midcycle | 19:07 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 19:07 |
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| SridarK | +1 on midcycle | 19:08 |
| xgerman | not sure if we do some L4-L7 mid cycle… or split them up | 19:09 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: with classifiers - will be good to combine, but we are not at that stage yet | 19:10 |
| xgerman | ok | 19:10 |
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| SridarK | so may be it does not matter | 19:10 |
| SridarK | either way will be fine, if there are some logistics that are easier | 19:11 |
| xgerman | yeah, we are talking about it that afternoon in LBaaS land so we should have some proposal next week | 19:11 |
| badveli | are we going to discuss the new API at summit? | 19:12 |
| xgerman | sc68cal said in the ML | 19:12 |
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| mickeys | Start on ML, see how far we can get, then continue at the summit? | 19:13 |
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| sc68cal | ^ +1 | 19:13 |
| xgerman | +1 | 19:13 |
| jwarendt | +1 | 19:13 |
| SridarK | +1 and also on the etherpad | 19:13 |
| xgerman | I also made some pretty basic component design: https://docs.google.com/a/hpe.com/drawings/d/1eFDVOtkwG2Flt54zqZcAFnOY9cww_EgJKuIp9aPqAIs/pub?w=1440&h=1080 | 19:13 |
| xgerman | #link https://docs.google.com/a/hpe.com/drawings/d/1eFDVOtkwG2Flt54zqZcAFnOY9cww_EgJKuIp9aPqAIs/pub?w=1440&h=1080 | 19:13 |
| badveli | ok thanks i will follow them | 19:13 |
| xgerman | because I think we need to be more pluggable - especially with all those new things | 19:14 |
| mickeys | xgerman: I don't have permission for either google doc | 19:14 |
| SridarK | yes same here | 19:15 |
| badveli | could we get the permissions, thanks | 19:15 |
| xgerman | it should have a request access and I can approve you | 19:15 |
| xgerman | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xP9vfgrP/sOErZ5NSprBN3xAYgZxWtqg-2.png | 19:15 |
| xgerman | let’s try that | 19:15 |
| mickeys | The last one works | 19:15 |
| SridarK | +1 | 19:15 |
| sc68cal | I like the idea of separate API endpoints and common backend | 19:15 |
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| sc68cal | I think the proposed API on the etherpad, it starts to mix things in at the API level | 19:16 |
| mickeys | If we don't mix in at the API level, then the existing port to security group mappings are not reusable in FWaaS | 19:16 |
| xgerman | well, if they use the same backend you can start in SG and then finish in FWaaS | 19:17 |
| mickeys | +1 | 19:17 |
| xgerman | #action xgerman fix the sharing on the Google doc so everybody can edit | 19:18 |
| reedip_ | Thats a nice API diagram xgerman :) | 19:20 |
| badveli | since the iptables manager is common we can combine as a common back end but the applicability of security group is per port hopefully we do not have if then kind of things in common backend | 19:20 |
| xgerman | well, I like that all to be pluggable | 19:21 |
| xgerman | so we could put in an SDN plugin in lieu of iptables | 19:21 |
| sc68cal | I liked the one point on the etherpad, where maybe moving fwaas to be on a port basis rather than router basis | 19:21 |
| xgerman | +1 | 19:21 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: yes that was the intent | 19:21 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: putting it on the router was not my first choice either | 19:23 |
| SridarK | sc68cal: yes that should be something that should be easy to move to - the db tables are designed to be able to make the move easy | 19:24 |
| xgerman | there is some exotic use case to use FWaaS to protect other Neutron services, e.g. VPNaaS — but de-emphasizing router is good | 19:24 |
| mickeys | SridarK: DVR breakage seems like a good excuse why we need port rather than router | 19:24 |
| sc68cal | mickeys: +1 | 19:24 |
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| SridarK | mickeys: yes and also that it makes more sense | 19:24 |
| xgerman | +! | 19:24 |
| xgerman | +1 | 19:24 |
| mickeys | +! | 19:24 |
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| SridarK | the router is a bit nebulus and we need more specificity and more in line with traditional implementations | 19:25 |
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| xgerman | I guess we are running in an open door | 19:25 |
| SridarK | so i think we found one high priority thing | 19:25 |
| xgerman | so let’s make it so ;-) | 19:25 |
| sc68cal | :) | 19:25 |
| SridarK | :-) | 19:25 |
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| xgerman | time check 5 minutes... | 19:26 |
| sc68cal | #info Consensus among today's meeting that moving the FwaaS API to be port based is desirable | 19:26 |
| xgerman | SridarK should we discuss the FWaaS talk in Tokyo? | 19:26 |
| xgerman | any, Google Doc we can collaborate on? | 19:26 |
| SridarK | xgerman: yes been on my mind | 19:26 |
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| SridarK | xgerman: look for an email | 19:27 |
| jwarendt | Port makes sense, as long as still have grouping constructs for those of us too lazy to iterate all of a router's ports.. | 19:27 |
| SridarK | and we can get folks to add in | 19:27 |
| xgerman | ok, awesome | 19:27 |
| mickeys | jwarendt: +1 | 19:27 |
| SridarK | jwarendt: the initial bp called for a port list i believe | 19:27 |
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| sc68cal | jwarendt: +1 | 19:27 |
| xgerman | and then there are zones... | 19:27 |
| SridarK | then there are zones | 19:27 |
| SridarK | oh xgerman: u read my mind | 19:28 |
| SridarK | ;-) | 19:28 |
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| xgerman | great minds think alike ;-) | 19:28 |
| mickeys | IMO it is important to be able to use the port grouping construct (security groups?) in the rules themselves, for source or dest address | 19:28 |
| mickeys | Which security groups already does | 19:28 |
| SridarK | ok i will stay away from the other option on that saying :-) | 19:28 |
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| xgerman | 1 minute... | 19:29 |
| SridarK | mickeys: yes that we should discuss for sure | 19:29 |
| sc68cal | mickeys: true, but we also have an item for service grouops, so that may satisfy requirement | 19:29 |
| SridarK | we should not make the api support every possibly option | 19:29 |
| sc68cal | *groups even | 19:29 |
| xgerman | well, we release the bare minimum and see what we learn | 19:30 |
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| sc68cal | and with that, we're out of time | 19:30 |
| sc68cal | until next week! | 19:30 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 19:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 19:30:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:30 |
| xgerman | o/ | 19:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-10-07-18.32.html | 19:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-10-07-18.32.txt | 19:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2015/networking_fwaas.2015-10-07-18.32.log.html | 19:30 |
| badveli | bye | 19:30 |
| jwarendt | o/ | 19:30 |
| SridarK | bye all and thanks | 19:30 |
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| Swami | SridarK: hi | 19:30 |
| annp | Bye | 19:30 |
| hoangcx | bye | 19:30 |
| mickeys | bye | 19:30 |
| SridarK | Swami: hi | 19:30 |
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| Swami | Are we still planning to have a discussion tomorrow with the recent direction of supporting ports versus router | 19:31 |
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| mickeys | Swami: I think the discussion was including router ports as well as VM ports | 19:31 |
| SridarK | Swami: let me send an email to schedule a time with mickeys | 19:31 |
| Swami | SridarK: thanks | 19:32 |
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| SridarK | Swami: i think specifically we can lay some foundation for the DVR discussion which influences a lot of things | 19:32 |
| Swami | SridarK: sure that will help. | 19:32 |
| SridarK | Swami: thanks | 19:32 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting Horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 7 20:00:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| david-lyle | show yourselves | 20:00 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:00 |
| neelashah | hi | 20:00 |
| _ducttape_ | o/ | 20:00 |
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| barrett1 | howdy | 20:00 |
| tsufiev | hello | 20:00 |
| tqtran | [=_=]/ | 20:01 |
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| TravT_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| jwy | hi | 20:01 |
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| * david-lyle shakes bushes | 20:02 | |
| david-lyle | ok let's get rolling | 20:02 |
| david-lyle | the agenda fro today | 20:02 |
| mrunge | o/ | 20:02 |
| david-lyle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon#Agenda_for_October_7_2000_UTC | 20:02 |
| david-lyle | #topic Liberty Status | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty Status (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:03 | |
| david-lyle | RC-2 has been opened and translations merged | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | we also had two other patches land | 20:03 |
| neillc | o/ | 20:03 |
| david-lyle | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/liberty-rc2 | 20:03 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: reported a third bug, but as there is no fix for master yet, and PKI is being phased out by keystone | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | I don't think we should hold the release on it | 20:04 |
| _ducttape_ | can more docs be added to liberty? thinking the changes in themeing, had 1:1 talk w hurgleburgler earlier | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1503575 | 20:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1503575 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "switching projects via project switcher does not work" [High,New] | 20:04 |
| david-lyle | _ducttape_: docs are not really possible this late | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | because of translation | 20:05 |
| _ducttape_ | ugg, that stinks | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | and string freezes | 20:05 |
| mrunge | would be good, if someone could try to reproduce that bug at all. | 20:05 |
| mrunge | I mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1503575 | 20:05 |
| _ducttape_ | we use fernets, and we do not see it | 20:05 |
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| mrunge | great | 20:06 |
| * _ducttape_ wonders if fernets should be plural ? | 20:06 | |
| david-lyle | sure internets is | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | are | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | hmmm | 20:06 |
| mrunge | ferrets? | 20:06 |
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| david-lyle | token delivery by ferret | 20:06 |
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| _ducttape_ | which is faster than keystone (truestory) | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | deleting gets messy though | 20:07 |
| lhcheng | mrunge: isn't that related to cookie overflow? | 20:07 |
| _ducttape_ | thats what I was thinking lhcheng, thats the same behavior | 20:07 |
| mrunge | lhcheng, I had even database backed sessions | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | ok, so I moved the above bug out of RC-2 and tagged as liberty-backport-potential | 20:08 |
| mrunge | that was my first thought | 20:08 |
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| david-lyle | bpokorny: don't you use PKI? | 20:08 |
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| bpokorny | Yep | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | have you seen the above issue? | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | or would you have a chance to try and reproduce? | 20:09 |
| * bpokorny was just reading the above | 20:09 | |
| lhcheng | mrunge: try setting OPENSTACK_TOKEN_HASH_ENABLED=False | 20:09 |
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| bpokorny | I haven't seen that yet, but also haven't tried the latest master code in a while. | 20:10 |
| lhcheng | if the keystonemiddleware don't have caching, that might be another cause.. | 20:10 |
| bpokorny | I'll try that out with master and see if it works ok. | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | thanks bpokorny | 20:10 |
| bpokorny | np | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | RC-2 will be tagged tomorrow barring any show stoppers tonight | 20:11 |
| mrunge | yes, thank you bpokorny | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | and then only something catastrophic would cause an RC-3 | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | but final release is next week | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | so Liberty is close to final for us | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | questions/concerns about Liberty? | 20:12 |
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| david-lyle | #topic https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport | 20:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/WeeklyBugReport (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:12 | |
| david-lyle | I think robcresswell is out and may not have this updated | 20:12 |
| * david-lyle looking | 20:13 | |
| tsufiev | yes, that's from the previous meeting | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | 4/6 bugs seem to be fixed | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | blueprints, not much progress | 20:14 |
| hurgleburgler | robcresswell says sorry cause he's sick, he'll update the list tomorrow | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | moving on | 20:14 |
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| david-lyle | #topic Summit Session Planning | 20:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit Session Planning (Meeting topic: Horizon)" | 20:15 | |
| david-lyle | it's that time again to filter and finalize summit sessions | 20:15 |
| matt-borland | :) | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | the topic proposals are here: | 20:15 |
| tsufiev | performance! performance! | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-summit | 20:15 |
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| david-lyle | and the slots are | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | #link https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/horizon?iframe=yes&w=i:100;&sidebar=yes&bg=no | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | iframe FTW | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | I'd like to walk through and make sure we're not missing topics | 20:17 |
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| lhcheng | tsufiev: you'll be interested to attend this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-mitaka-summit-x-project | 20:17 |
| tsufiev | lhcheng, thanks, will add it to my list | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | that's grown a bit | 20:18 |
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| david-lyle | x-project? | 20:19 |
| tsufiev | project X :) | 20:20 |
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| mrunge | sad, no cool name | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | or a keystone session? | 20:20 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:20 |
| lhcheng | cross project :) | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | lhcheng: it's a cross-project session proposal? | 20:21 |
| lhcheng | hmm time for a new project | 20:21 |
| * david-lyle still confused | 20:21 | |
| lhcheng | keystone cross project | 20:21 |
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| mrunge | there's a proposal with zaqar folks for a cross-project-session as well | 20:21 |
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| lhcheng | for tsufiev's requests of pagination for LDAP backend | 20:22 |
| tsufiev | lhcheng, it's not just me I suppose | 20:22 |
| * tsufiev is flattered for being the single source of the whole cross-project session | 20:22 | |
| david-lyle | I don't see either of those on http://odsreg.openstack.org/ | 20:23 |
| lhcheng | tsufiev: you're the first person I thought :P | 20:23 |
| lhcheng | tsufiev: I'm sure others want it too | 20:23 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, that is for sessions with > 2 projects | 20:23 |
| mrunge | for zaqar, a session on wed. @4.40 would work | 20:24 |
| mrunge | that'd be our slot | 20:24 |
| mrunge | or wed @1.30 for zaqar, iirc. | 20:24 |
| tsufiev | lhcheng, so far we decided that filtering + users limit on keystone side + horizon notification in case exceeding users were truncated would solve the issue w/o introducing pagination API | 20:24 |
| david-lyle | cross-project overloaded | 20:24 |
| TravT | mrunge: david-lyle: i think cross project is for things that all projects are interested in. | 20:25 |
| tsufiev | hope another little keystone implementation detail won't ruin this brilliant plan | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | TravT: yes, but it's being used in another context here which was confusing me | 20:25 |
| stevemar_ | david-lyle: each project has X amount of fishbowl sessions | 20:25 |
| TravT | yeah, i'm slightly confused about what mrunge is saying | 20:25 |
| stevemar_ | david-lyle: and cross-project sessions themselves are all fishbowl | 20:26 |
| lhcheng | sorry to distract, let's move on to horizon sessions :) | 20:26 |
| mrunge | should I try to rephrase? | 20:26 |
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| stevemar_ | i decided to use one of keystone as another cross-project session, but one that focuses on keystone | 20:26 |
| mrunge | I started a proposal on the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-mitaka-summit | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | stevemar_: I understand how the summit works, trying to decipher what level the keystone topic was | 20:26 |
| mrunge | we just need to fill in topics | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | stevemar_: ok | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | makes sense | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | will come and be argumentative^H^H^H^Hcollaborative | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | :) | 20:27 |
| hurgleburgler | ah, the nature of openstack :-D | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: we don't have a wed 1:30 | 20:30 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, yes, but zaqar has | 20:30 |
| stevemar_ | david-lyle: i really just wanted to kill the argument of pagination in keystone again | 20:30 |
| TravT | stevemar_: can we have pagination? | 20:30 |
| TravT | :p | 20:30 |
| _ducttape_ | so then keystone will support it? | 20:30 |
| _ducttape_ | ;) | 20:30 |
| mrunge | oh yes please stevemar_ | 20:30 |
| tsufiev | lol ) | 20:30 |
| TravT | great! | 20:30 |
| _ducttape_ | stevemar_ said this would happen, he promised us all | 20:31 |
| mrunge | or we'd come up with a ugly solution and blame keystone | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | this is going well, I think ;) | 20:31 |
| mrunge | ;-) | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | do we have an idea on the fishbowls? | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | zaqar, ceilometer, etc might be a good fishbowl | 20:31 |
| mrunge | go with it? | 20:32 |
| doug-fish | should we solicit input from operators at a fishbowl? | 20:32 |
| mrunge | or how many do we have? | 20:32 |
| TravT | doug-fish: ++ give them an opportunity to burn effigies | 20:32 |
| mrunge | operators would be great for a fishbowl | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | 2 fishbowls | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | I worry operators are oversubscribed | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | but if they will attend, I like having the session | 20:33 |
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| mrunge | so, e.g thu 9:50 operators? | 20:33 |
| mrunge | just for planing purposes? | 20:33 |
| doug-fish | I don't know how to predict/encourage them to come | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | that may work, I don't see an op track for then | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | looks like tues and wed for operators | 20:34 |
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| david-lyle | best meeting ever, everyone typing in etherpad | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | reality, angular and the future is a topic I want early on | 20:38 |
| neillc | +1 | 20:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | sorry david-lyle : | 20:38 |
| doug-fish | should Wed @ 5:30 include a discussion of all client side impl as well? | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: I meant in a good way | 20:39 |
| david-lyle | otherwise I randomly pick topics | 20:39 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | cross-domain tokens and federation stuff - does our horizon/keystone stuff need a whole session? | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: not sure I understand the scope of all | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | I think we could cover it on Fri if we're short on slots | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | K2K is the big hole right now | 20:41 |
| doug-fish | The end game for "all" might go as far as serving up the single static html and javascript and running completely client side | 20:41 |
| doug-fish | hmm, that's a good one to talk about | 20:41 |
| tqtran | single page application might be the term you're fishing for | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | topic for operator session feedback is angular too | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | *a topic | 20:42 |
| tqtran | doug-fish: no pun intended on "fishing" lol | 20:42 |
| doug-fish | :-) | 20:42 |
| stevemar_ | oh damn, i didn't realize i was barging in on the meeting, my bad. | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I guess it might be good for us to revisit the question posed in Paris and see if the answer we came up with there is still the one we agree on? | 20:42 |
| david-lyle | stevemar_: always welcome | 20:42 |
| stevemar_ | no pagination for anyone! | 20:42 |
| doug-fish | stevemar_: now you're doing it again :-) | 20:42 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, what was the question? | 20:42 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | do we move to pure JS | 20:42 |
| mrunge | we all know, 42 is the answer... | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :) | 20:43 |
| stevemar_ | j/k we can chat about it at the summit :) i have a plan doug-fish | 20:43 |
| doug-fish | is K2K important for others? | 20:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | stevemar_ has a solution, everyone! woo! | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | doug-fish: I think others in the community, maybe not well represented in the current meeting | 20:43 |
| TravT | stevemar_ will solve pagination! | 20:43 |
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| stevemar_ | \o/ | 20:43 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:43 |
| david-lyle | and world hunger | 20:44 |
| stevemar_ | no promises on that one david-lyle | 20:44 |
| mrunge | boo | 20:44 |
| david-lyle | by feeding pages to ... | 20:44 |
| david-lyle | ok, I think the grand question should be discussed again | 20:45 |
| david-lyle | single page or not to single page | 20:45 |
| tqtran | i think we should devote one of the working session to covering plugins, how we are going to handle testing, translation, and the future angular work in it | 20:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | looks like that later Wed session is the go there | 20:45 |
| mrunge | yupp | 20:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think someone who is on the angular front should try to write a plugin :) | 20:46 |
| tqtran | considering that our path encourage people to develop their own plugins, we need to provide them the path of least resistance | 20:46 |
| tqtran | r1chardj0n3s: already did :) | 20:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh? | 20:46 |
| tqtran | and it works beautiful i must say, i have a demo line up at the summit, be on the look out! | 20:47 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok | 20:47 |
| mrunge | great! | 20:47 |
| tqtran | it also incorporated the workflow extenstion model we talked about at the midcycle | 20:47 |
| * tsufiev again says one word: Performance | 20:47 | |
| mrunge | wait, tsufiev :D | 20:48 |
| * tsufiev looking anxiously as the slots are being filled with shiny new things that work perfectly on devstack installations :/ | 20:49 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | no, don't wait, we've only got 10 minutes of meeting left :) | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: these are just placeholders | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | nothing finalized | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | the point is to make people speak up | 20:49 |
| _ducttape_ | tqtran - ping me with your plugin session, would love to attend | 20:50 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, ok, just consider this as a 'scale is coming' omen :) | 20:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: scale has already arrived in some places and Horizon doesn't cope - I'd be interested :) | 20:51 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: ceilo has a conflict at 11:50, but maybe we could convince someone to attend | 20:51 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, damn. | 20:51 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: that's actually why I wanted to go down the JS road to begin with | 20:52 |
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| david-lyle | scale and performance | 20:52 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, I'm not sure, if zaqar would be the better option anyways... | 20:52 |
| david-lyle | neither are being realized yet | 20:52 |
| TravT | re: zaqar... i have had a few emails about how zaqar / searchlight might work together with horizon. was hoping to handle that discussion at the summit. | 20:52 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the scaling issues I run into are actually terrible performance of the APIs we're calling, so it's not going to be fixed with JS :) | 20:52 |
| _ducttape_ | +1 r1chardj0n3s | 20:53 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, TravT will fix that for us with searchlight | 20:53 |
| r1chardj0n3s | mrunge: lolk | 20:53 |
| lhcheng | r1chardj0n3s: +1, the landing pages take looooong time to load | 20:53 |
| doug-fish | r1chardj0n3s: still it might be more palatable if multiple calls are being made in parallel, and you have a screen to look at | 20:53 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: true, but gracefully requesting more data could be and representing a usable page without all the data is too | 20:53 |
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| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, partly this can be fixed by improving APIs | 20:53 |
| _ducttape_ | david-lyle - that sounds like a DOS attack to me | 20:54 |
| tsufiev | the problem is that they seem weren't designed with a Horizon in mind | 20:54 |
| mrunge | ... but what if apis don't support pagination? | 20:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | just saying: the solution isn't just a simple "move to JS" :) | 20:54 |
| mrunge | +1 r1chardj0n3s | 20:54 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: I fully agree | 20:54 |
| _ducttape_ | +2 r1chardj0n3s | 20:54 |
| hurgleburgler | +1 | 20:54 |
| tsufiev | that is going to be a long tiresome war... | 20:55 |
| david-lyle | and at this point we have work on things that don't benefit at all from it happening | 20:55 |
| mrunge | so, what else did we had for sessions? | 20:55 |
| david-lyle | which goes back to the existential crisis | 20:55 |
| david-lyle | yes, save for Tokyo | 20:55 |
| _ducttape_ | I think tqtran's demo of ng plugin would be very helpful, my vote | 20:55 |
| TravT | on all of the above, i definitely would like to have discussion on searchlight. | 20:55 |
| mrunge | should we make plugins a session? | 20:56 |
| _ducttape_ | sounds reasonable, there are a lot of new plugins in the last yr | 20:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | TravT: searchlight and zaqar in the same session? fishbowl or work? | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | I did | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: ^^ | 20:56 |
| doug-fish | Maybe a session on Domain/Federation/K2K and maybe HMT - to sequence the work if nothing else | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | 4:40 Wed | 20:57 |
| mrunge | right david-lyle | 20:57 |
| _ducttape_ | can tqtran have a slice of that time then david-lyle ? | 20:57 |
| TravT | r1chardj0n3s: i don't care when exactly it happens. might even be best in contributors meetup. | 20:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh, "performance and scale" is already a session, searchlight can go there | 20:57 |
| TravT | ok | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | _ducttape_: nobody's claimed any time yet | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | just topic | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | s | 20:57 |
| _ducttape_ | 15 minutes of fame: how to write an ng plugin | 20:58 |
| * _ducttape_ should be in marketing | 20:58 | |
| mrunge | doug-fish, yes, that was my next thought: we had many keystone topics | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | do we want an all things keystone session then doug-fish? | 20:58 |
| doug-fish | sounds good to me | 20:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh, when can we schedule the replacement of our testing environment with pytest please can we pleeeease? :) | 20:58 |
| doug-fish | I'd like to include stevemar_'s work on pagination from that session | 20:58 |
| doug-fish | s/include/exclude | 20:58 |
| TravT | david-lyle: FYI, i know i can't make the wed 4:40 and i was asked to go to a monasca / ceilometer session at 5:30 Wed. | 20:59 |
| mrunge | r1chardj0n3s, just added, feel free to correct | 20:59 |
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| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, what is the gain of using pytest? | 20:59 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: I should write a BP :) | 20:59 |
| tsufiev | ok ) | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: you're signing up to rewrite all 1600 tests? | 21:00 |
| mrunge | awesome r1chardj0n3s | 21:00 |
| TravT | cheers to r1chardj0n3s! | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | O_o | 21:00 |
| neillc | uh oh | 21:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: it's the only possible way to understand them ;) | 21:00 |
| TravT | his minion seems worried, though | 21:00 |
| hurgleburgler | ٩(͡๏̮͡๏)۶ | 21:00 |
| david-lyle | haha | 21:00 |
| mrunge | so, all slots are now filled. did we forget something? | 21:01 |
| TravT | beer | 21:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that's 3:30 Thur | 21:01 |
| mrunge | and more beer, TravT | 21:01 |
| tsufiev | TravT, take beer to the sessions ;)? | 21:01 |
| hurgleburgler | Asahi! | 21:01 |
| tqtran | _ducttape_: https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/main-conference heres the session, sorry someone was talking to me in the office | 21:01 |
| TravT | will there be a pre-summit meetup? | 21:01 |
| david-lyle | time's up. I think I have to finalize the sessions in the next week | 21:01 |
| doug-fish | would we be interested in an informal meetup before the summit starts? | 21:01 |
| tqtran | got a bit distracted | 21:01 |
| TravT | monday night or something? | 21:01 |
| mrunge | doug-fish, +1 /me! | 21:01 |
| mrunge | sure! | 21:02 |
| tsufiev | +1 | 21:02 |
| doug-fish | let's take it to the horizon channel | 21:02 |
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| mrunge | :D | 21:02 |
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| david-lyle | there's actually not another meeting schduled in here | 21:02 |
| david-lyle | but let's go to #horiozn | 21:02 |
| david-lyle | #horizon | 21:02 |
| TravT | so, doug-fish will schedule a meetup | 21:02 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 21:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 21:03:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-10-07-20.00.html | 21:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-10-07-20.00.txt | 21:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2015/horizon.2015-10-07-20.00.log.html | 21:03 |
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