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SergeyLukjanovhey sahara folks!13:58
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SergeyLukjanov#startmeeting sahara14:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  8 14:00:48 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'14:00
SergeyLukjanovlet's wait for a few more minutees'14:01
SergeyLukjanov #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, vgridnev)14:02
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crobertsrhI added one bug fix to that list this week.14:02
crobertsrhIt has to do with filtering by plugin name.14:02
crobertsrhIt's kind of ugly, but actually not a regression.14:03
vgridnevnothing from me on this topic14:03
crobertsrhSoon, I will have a change posted for adding shares to node group templates.  Reviews will be appreciated.14:03
SergeyLukjanovcool, thx14:04
SergeyLukjanov#topic News / updates14:04
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elmikomainly been working on talks for summit, also a little help with coordinating some outreachy applicants for sahara14:04
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vgridnevworking on ambari plugin improvements14:05
egaffordAlso primarily on summit talks and discussions.14:05
AndreyPavlovhi guys, have been working on CLI and grenade job14:05
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esikachevworking on SPI for cluster verification checks, testing liberty14:05
crobertsrhI've been working on adding manila share functionality to horizon (node/cluster templates and running clusters)14:06
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toskysome time to test Liberty14:06
toskyand finding bug, like the one mentioned by crobertsrh (which would be nice to backport to Liberty, if it's not a problem, after fixed):
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503235 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "[Sahara] Filter (on strings?) not working at least for Node Group and Cluster Template pages" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Chad Roberts (croberts)14:07
vgridnevcrobertsrh, I viewed Trevor change for filtering in sahara for cluster templates, it looks like it breaks backward comp.14:07
vgridnevtosky, ^^14:07
elmikothat's the review in question14:07
toskyvgridnev: what exactly?14:07
sreshetn1akI'm working on support api-paste.ini14:08
crobertsrhvgridnev:  He was striving to not break backward compat, but I haven't looked at it yet.14:08
elmikoyea, it looked like from his tests that it would not break compat14:08
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vgridnevso, if we have 2 cluster templates, with name "abs" and "abss" , and then ask for filter for name with arg "abs" we will get 2 cluster templates as result14:09
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toskyyes, but this is what happens when you use the same search box in Compute, for example14:09
toskyconsistency is more important, I personally think that the current behavior is incorrect; I would say users expect substring matching14:10
egaffordtosky: I think vgridnev's point that existing users will see a change in response. Still, that's the goal in this case; to fix the bug behavior does have to change.14:10
vgridnevtosky, but initially was  perfect matching, so we are changing output result14:10
toskyvgridnev: yes, to be consistent with similar search filters in horizon14:11
egaffordSo either we live with it until we rev the API for backward compat, or we fix the bug.14:11
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toskyegafford: it's not a matter of API, it's behavior; if we say that it can't be changed (i.e. perfect match only), it will never be changed regardless of the internal code implementation14:12
egaffordI think in this case it's reasonable to call the initial version wrong, and worth fixing, rather than reasonable and worth preserving (even if we'd rather do something else.)14:12
crobertsrh+1 for consistency across openstack14:12
egaffordtosky: Well, vgridnev's argument is that we shouldn't change the response (behavior) of an existing API. Response is part of API too; we could decide to only change at a version switch. Still, +1 to consistency across openstack, as crobertsrh says.14:14
toskyuhm uhm14:14
egaffordI think fixing it is a win.14:14
toskyand a new API? I guess no one wants that14:15
elmikoi want that ;)14:15
toskythe goal (from my point of view) is consistency in search behavior14:15
egaffordtosky: Well, elmiko wants that.14:15
toskyin Horizon, at least14:15
toskynot talking about 2.0 :)14:15
toskyI was talking about a new method here14:15
egafford(So do I.) tosky: Yeah, we agree, I'm just mapping out the alternative argument.14:15
elmikotosky: so, you are saying add a new method for the glob style filtering?14:16
vgridnevwe can't be sure that someone uses current behavior of Sahara14:16
toskyyes, but on the other side we don't have microversioning - but we did add new methods to the 1.1 API in the past, right?14:16
elmikoyea, we could add an entirely new method without breaking the contract14:17
elmikovgridnev: +114:17
egaffordelmiko: Where do you even put that in a sensible REST API though?14:17
toskyso, if it is possible, maybe we could leave get_cluster_templates as it is and introduce new get_cluster_templates_filter (the same for other methods)14:17
egaffordI mean, there are crazy places to put it, but sensible ones? Harder.14:18
elmikoegafford: yea, i know. this is a difficult question14:18
toskyand then, in horizon, look for the new one and fallback in case it is not there14:18
toskythat would make impossible to backport to Liberty, though14:18
toskyvgridnev: would that ^ be acceptable?14:18
tosky(we all know that we will have 2.0 in M, so this will be moot, right? :D)14:19
toskyok, joking aside14:19
elmikoi dunno, we might have to wait on this. because we will also need to change the filter stuff for node groups, i'd hate to see us propogate a bunch of bad api endpoints just to fix this for now.14:19
elmikoi think we could add a new filtering parameter to the current endpoint14:20
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elmikowhich would allow us to distinguish between exact match and glob match14:21
vgridnevI think this issue not so critical for liberty, it doesn't break anything, just something probably strange14:21
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elmikoalso, our api docs are making me sad =(14:21
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko outdated?14:22
egaffordYeah, if there's uncertainty among the team, waiting does seem to make sense. And vgridnev, your point is good and well-taken; GetOne to GetMany is a real, substantive change.14:22
* SergeyLukjanov just returned home tonight and have a jet lag14:22
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: i think we are missing some details14:22
elmiko(on the api-ref site)14:22
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SergeyLukjanovheh, that's sad14:23
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SergeyLukjanovbtw I'm proposing to agree on preliminary list of design summit sessions on the next IRC meeting (Oct 15)14:23
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: imo, we just need to start creating our api docs in the specs repo, like keystone and others have done.14:23
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elmikoin rst format, to make it easier for updating14:24
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, and copying to api-ref or droping api-ref?14:24
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toskyelmiko: I thought api doc was autogenerated from the APIs and comments, isn't it the case?14:25
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: there is much discussion about what should happen to api-ref with the docs team, but one of the suggestions concerning documenting apis is for more projects to keep their api references up to date in their own repos.14:25
elmikotosky: not yet14:25
elmikothere is a massive discussion about moving to an autogenerated format for the api-ref site, but for the projects themselves to keep descriptive long-form api references in their own repos14:26
elmikoan example,
elmikoin the v2 api spec, i've proposed we do the same14:26
toskywouldn't it make sense to add also the long-form API references as comments? I mean, it's the doxygen style14:27
elmikothis will make it much easier for developers to keep the descriptive docs up-to-date when adding new things14:27
SergeyLukjanov#topic Open discussion14:27
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rickflareI just wanted to introduce myself14:27
elmikotosky: that does make sense, and if you look at some of the oslo libs that is what they do.14:28
toskyelmiko: can't we go in that direction then?14:28
elmikotosky: imo, we should still move towards making our docs in the specs repo. it allows for a much more in-depth description of the api14:28
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SergeyLukjanovrickflare, o/14:29
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, we should evaluate the option of creating v2 api in specs repo14:29
* rickflare waves back o/14:29
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SergeyLukjanovelmiko, I like the idea, but I'm afraid that we'll need to duplicate it in api-ref14:29
toskyelmiko: why can't we have in-depth as API comments directly?14:30
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: yea, but api-ref is pain in the ass. we need to keep that up to date for now, but it will change in the future.14:30
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elmikotosky, SergeyLukjanov, look at this review for more ideas
rickflareSo guys let me give you a little insight to my background etc. I am system engineer/ clould engineer. I have been involved and using Linux for about 12 years now.14:30
elmikotosky: we can14:30
elmikotosky: it's a deeper question though14:31
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toskyhi rickflare14:31
elmikowelcome rickflare14:31
rickflareI am extremely passionate about Hadoop and other cloud/big data technologies. I am looking to contribute to Sahara as this is best group of FOSS people ive worked with online.14:31
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, oh, swagger, it's not bad14:31
rickflareI am currently in the process of trying to implment saltstack and puppet into our current cluster deployments.14:32
egaffordo/ rickflare!14:32
crobertsrhGlad to have ya here rickflare14:33
elmikotosky: look at line 39-64 in that review14:33
rickflareIn my process I have been amazed at how awesome this project is and I can only see great things ahead. I hope to bring years of managing large hadoop clustering.14:34
elmikotosky: that stuff is way to in-depth to put in the comments. it will make the code more comments than code14:34
elmikorickflare: \o/14:34
toskyelmiko: which is not a bad thing (more comment than code) - well, not for compiled languages at least14:34
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elmikotosky: the point is, the proposed solution is to use swagger to auto-generate the api references with a supplemental document written in rst that will have more in-depth explanations of how to use the api14:35
rickflareI feel the key to Sahara success will henge on easy of use for admins and devopers etc. I am extremely passionate about this and I am more than willing to get my hands dirty and really help out.14:35
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elmikorickflare: we could definitely use more admin/ops perspectives on how to improve sahara =)14:36
SergeyLukjanovyeah and we're really looking for this ind of feedback :)14:37
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rickflareso one of the things that I think should be addressed is the process in which one makes images.14:38
egaffordrickflare: :D14:39
SergeyLukjanovyeah, it's the area where we need to do smth14:39
crobertsrhrickflare:  Any chance you'll be in Tokyo for the summit?14:39
rickflareIts a huge hurdle and for those who are not extremely knowledgeable about tox it will be a huge turn off for newbies14:39
crobertsrhwe will be talking about image generation there14:39
egaffordI hope to talk about that at summit coming up. If you have any ideas for specific implementations, I'd really love to know; I want to sound out all the options before us to get a sense of which to explore in the next 6months.14:39
rickflarecrobertsrh I really wish I could be there. I am planning on attending the Austin summit for sure.14:40
rickflareso the all in one tox command is fine but it needs to be much more modular in its approach. I am certains admins are constantly going to want to slipstream per se software into these images and its going to be a bummer if they can not do that with ease.14:41
pino|workrickflare: there you go14:42
elmikowe have been talking about allowing extra parameters to pass through sahara-image-elements into diskimage-builder14:42
rickflarethanks pino!14:43
rickflareive also noticed esp with devstack that if one builds a large cluster ie 20 nodes or so Mariadb seems to get overwhelmed quickly.14:44
rickflareI have instances in which clusters would not delete etc because of too many connections to Mariadb. Ive also alters the allowed number of connections in my.cnf only to see the same effects.14:45
rickflareIm in the process of opening up a bug report about this14:45
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elmikoi think there has got to be some leeway for devstack too though. devstack is not meant for production work.14:45
elmikoimo, 20+ node cluster is not ideal for devstack14:46
rickflareThe one thing I love is how fluid and natural the process in Horizon is in deploying a cluster. It just works and that wonderful.14:46
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rickflareelmiko understood, thats why i brought it up here because I was not sure it was of real concern or not.14:46
elmikobuilding large clusters on devstack seems low prio to me14:47
elmikoi just feel like you will spend more time fighting with devstack than getting work done ;)14:47
rickflareive also seen this with 5 or 7 node clusters as well though14:48
crobertsrhYes, 1 node devstack is hard enough  sometimes :)14:48
rickflarewell im sorry I might have confused what I was saying14:48
rickflareI was refering to clusters with 5 ot 7 nodes in them14:49
elmikook, 5-7 node, that we should look into14:49
crobertsrhrickflare:  Is the problem special for sahara clusters, or is it something you'd see with 7 or 8 unconnected vms too?14:49
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rickflareits only with sahara clusters and per my impections it seems to be steaming from heat and only during the delete command.14:52
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egaffordrickflare: Huh, interesting.14:52
rickflareSo once horizon reports that a cluster has been deleted it seems that heat is still actively communicating heavily with Mariadb14:52
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SergeyLukjanovrickflare, heat generates high load on openstack services apis14:53
rickflareand it overwhelms it and then it locks up.14:53
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egaffordWe do create a lot of resources, and those resources have DB footprints in Heat and other services; deletion is often quicker than spinup, and Heat may not have much in the way of rate-limiting on those calls.14:53
SergeyLukjanovso, we've seeing how heat killing some parts of the cloud itself during cluster creation and removal ;)14:53
SergeyLukjanovMQ is very affected too14:54
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rickflareSergeyLukjanov :) ok so its not just me.14:54
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rickflareI think perhaps we can rate limit or load balance mariadb to deal with this? I am currently in the process of starting to test more of this using RDO versus devstack.14:55
SergeyLukjanovwe're running 50-200 nodes Sahara clusters regularly and seeing different issues14:55
egaffordrickflare: Sadly, a lot of the rate limiting would have to be in heat.14:55
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egaffordFrom Sahara's side, it's really just a very few calls.14:55
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elmikoalso, rate limiting or load balancing to the db is kinda outside sahara purview. we can provide advice, and i think this exists in the operator manual, but that seems like the extent of our actions.14:56
SergeyLukjanovactually, we're working with Heat folks to make a kind of limiting (batching) for the requested to guarantee that there will be no DDOS for the APIs14:56
rickflarethat is awesome!14:56
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egaffordSergeyLukjanov: Yeah, Sahara as attack vector in a public cloud would make us only so attractive to operators. :)14:57
SergeyLukjanovrickflare and you still have an option to try the direct engine14:57
elmikoegafford: but it's not a sahara only problem, you could do the same by creating some crazy heat requests14:57
rickflareSergeyLukjanov I will reach out to offline to learn more about that.14:57
egaffordelmiko: Oh, absolutely.14:57
egaffordIt needs to be on Heat's sid.e14:57
elmikoyea, i just fail to see how we can make a sahara change to affect this14:58
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egaffordTotally agreed.14:58
egaffordA savvy attacker could make a much more cumbersome Heat template than we do.14:58
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SergeyLukjanovit could be any load to openstack api14:59
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rickflareI think we must continue to focus on the junior system admin that is going to have the responsibility of installing and mantaining this software. I think keeping that in mind will go a long way in ensuring we are flexible and easy to understand. Esp because Hadoop, Storm, etc are all monsters of thier own.14:59
elmikoyea, these are not sahara specific problems14:59
SergeyLukjanovour MQ solution sucks IMO14:59
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egaffordSergeyLukjanov: Heh.14:59
elmikorickflare: yea, but what you are describing is a more general openstack issue. not a sahara issue14:59
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egaffordelmiko: At the same time, rickflare's basically saying "more UX."15:00
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SergeyLukjanovthx folks!15:00
egaffordWe agree.15:00
openstackMinutes (text):
elmikothanks SergeyLukjanov15:00
egaffordBye all!15:00
mlavalleregXboi: nice!15:00
regXboimlavalle: I thought you'd like that15:00
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rickflareelmiko I understand that why I brought them up and I now know I need to attend some openstack-dev meetings. :)15:00
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regXboiand ...  moo15:00
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carl_baldwin#topic Announcements15:01
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carl_baldwinAny announcements?15:01
regXboinot from here15:02
mlavallea little more that 2 weeks for the summit15:02
carl_baldwinmlavalle: You beat me, I was typing that very announcement.15:02
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carl_baldwinI look forward to seeing as many of you there as possible.15:03
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amuller2.5 weeks jeez15:03
* carl_baldwin has had his share of those too15:03
regXboiamuller: time flies when you are having fun15:03
carl_baldwinamuller: Yes, it always comes quickly.15:03
carl_baldwin#topic Bugs15:04
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: ping15:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz)15:05
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mlavallethis one had a partial fix merged this week by Adolfo15:05
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carl_baldwinMy thinking on this is that we should merge it soon.  amuller, what is your feeling?15:06
mlavalleassigned now to jschwarz15:06
Swamimlavalle: yes the agent side got merged but the server side is still in review.15:06
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carl_baldwinI still need to finish looking over the server side stuff.15:06
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amullercarl_baldwin: funny I'm in a meeting with jschwarz right now about the server patch15:06
amullerwe still need to review it15:06
regXboiwhat's the link for the server side patch?15:06
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mlavallejschwarz: you working on the servier side of this15:07
jschwarzmlavalle, I was reviewing it and fixing a couple of issues I had it with15:07
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regXboi#link server side patch for LP bug 136547315:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1365473 in neutron "Unable to create a router that's both HA and distributed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz)15:07
jschwarzmost of the work was done by other people (such as Adolfo and Rajeev)15:07
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mlavalleso you driving it to the finish line?15:08
vikramHi All... Sorry for joining late15:08
jschwarzmlavalle, yes15:08
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mlavalleregXboi: I'll update that patch in the agenda bug tracker list15:08
regXboimlavalle: ack and thanks15:08
mlavalleanything else on this one?15:09
carl_baldwinNo, let’s just get it in there so that others can try it out.15:09
mlavallenext up
openstackLaunchpad bug 149435 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update Manager freezes when clicking "install updates" after having cancelled root password insertion" [Undecided,Invalid]15:09
mlavallepavel_bondar has been actively working on this one.... any updates for this meeting?15:09
pavel_bondarmlavalle: pbobably not this one15:10
mlavalleneed any help?15:10
mlavalleI guess no, moving on15:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1486795 in neutron "DVR: create or update port by using notify specific host rather than fanout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:11
carl_baldwinAm I the only one seeing a bug on update-manager?15:11
haleybmlavalle: was that the right bug before?15:11
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johnbelamaric1that wasn't it15:11
pavel_bondarmine was
openstackLaunchpad bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:11
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mlavalledidn't see the error15:12
mlavallepavel_bondar: I menat that bug15:12
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carl_baldwinAmazing that you and Pavel could read each other’s minds.15:12
mlavalleany comments on it?15:12
pavel_bondarso, I am pretty close with it,most tests are passed now15:12
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pavel_bondarsee a few errors in logs, that concerns me, so investigating with them15:13
mlavallecool, need any help?15:13
pavel_bondarneed a review soon15:13
pavel_bondarI hope tomorrow would be nice day to review it15:13
pavel_bondarafter I remove all the debug from the patch15:14
mlavalleso, now moving on to
openstackLaunchpad bug 1486795 in neutron "DVR: create or update port by using notify specific host rather than fanout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:14
mlavallethis one has been taken over by obondarev15:15
mlavallehe pushed first WIP patchset this past Tuesday15:15
carl_baldwinStrange that it seems like the same url as before but looks like it came up with the right bug this time.15:15
carl_baldwinNm, different bug.15:15
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mlavalleobondarev also took over of a closely related bug:15:16
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1486828 in neutron "DVR: Notify specific agent when dealing with floating ips" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Oleg Bondarev (obondarev)15:17
mlavallesame situation, he pushed an initilal WIP patchset this past Tuesday15:17
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mlavalleso I guess we need to keep and eye on these two and review the fixes as they evolve15:18
mlavalleany comments?15:18
regXboiI think those bugs have multiple patches - at least I've seen a lot of related patches to the various CRUD operations15:19
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mlavalleok, moving on, we have a new one:
openstackLaunchpad bug 1476097 in neutron "[fwaas]Support fwaas to control east-west traffic in dvr router" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to lee jian (leejian0612)15:20
mlavalleThis one was triaged yesterday by armax and classified as rfe15:20
regXboihas that one been approved by the drivers team yet?15:20
mlavalledon't know..... maybe carl_baldwin knows15:21
mlavallealready has someone assigned to it15:21
carl_baldwinNot as far as I know.15:21
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mlavalleok, I can ping armax and see what's the status from his point of view15:22
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Swamicarl_baldwin: mlavalle: I am in discussion with the FwaaS team on fixing this issue.15:22
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mlavalleany further comments?15:23
mlavalleok, that's all the bugs I have this week..... regXboi do you have any?15:23
regXboimlavalle: not today15:24
mlavalleok, done with bugs15:24
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: done with bugs15:25
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks15:25
carl_baldwin#topic Routed network segments15:26
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carl_baldwinI’m starting to get some feedback on this review.  I think we’ve got a direction to go.15:27
carl_baldwinWhat we need is people willing to work  on it.15:27
carl_baldwinI’m actually pretty excited about getting to work on this in Mitaka.  I think it will be something that a number of operators will appeciate.15:28
amullercarl_baldwin: Sorry I haven't had the chance to review it yet15:28
amullerI do intend to though15:28
vikramcarl_baldwin: I am willing to help after the BGP work ;)15:28
carl_baldwinamuller: I will value your feedback as always.15:28
mlavallecarl_baldwin: do you have a milesttone in mind for this work?15:29
Swamicarl_baldwin: count me in15:29
carl_baldwinvikram: Swami: great.15:29
tidwellrcarl_baldwin: you're proposing a phased approach right, we won't have everything done in Mitaka?15:29
mlavalleI am also interested in helping, but I need to wrap up the dns work15:29
carl_baldwintidwellr: Right, I don’t see how it will all get done in Mitaka.  My goal would be to be able to boot a VM on a routed network and get some of the other model changes lined up for N.15:30
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carl_baldwinSome of the longer pole stuff should have a good head start during Mitaka.15:31
carl_baldwinFeedback is still welcome and encouraged on the spec.15:32
* mlavalle will read the spec15:33
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* regXboi will look for time to re-read15:33
carl_baldwinI’d like to have a discussion with Calico on it too.  I think it could fit what they’re working on better than the previous attempts.15:33
carl_baldwin#topic DVR15:33
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Swamicarl_baldwin: hi15:34
carl_baldwinhaleyb: regXboi: Swami: hi15:34
Swamipatches are up for review.15:34
carl_baldwinHow is the dvr job failure rate looking lately?15:34
regXboiIt's still not good15:34
regXboiIt's better, but still not good15:34
Swamicarl_baldwin: until we push in the patch I don't expect the failure rate to go down.15:34
carl_baldwinSwami: Do you have a link handy for that patch?15:35
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Swamithe gate is broken now.15:35
Swamicarl_baldwin: yes15:35
regXboiaren't the bugs in the agenda?15:35
regXboier I mean Patch Sets15:35
Swamicarl_baldwin: right now all these patches are chained. I have not seen any failures to fip so far in these patches.15:36
SwamiIt would be great if we all can review this and push the patch upstream to see the change in the gate.15:36
carl_baldwinSwami: Thanks.15:37
regXboiThe agenda has three other patch sets ?!?! what are those?15:37
SwamiI wanted to make DVR voting again before the summit, if we delay there are chances that we might get more bugs down the road.15:37
carl_baldwinhaleyb: regXboi: are you able to review the patch sets?15:37
regXboiyes, I will take a look at them15:38
carl_baldwinSwami: I agree, getting the job in to voting shape should be a priority.15:38
SwamiThere was also another bug that was reported for DVR and IPV6. #link
openstackLaunchpad bug 1501969 in neutron "No dhcp IPv6 assigned (slaac/slaac) with interface-add after VM boot" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:38
haleybcarl_baldwin: yes, I know i looked at the ARP cache one, just waiting for jenkins to be happy now.  Will look at the other two ast well15:38
SwamiI will work on that bug after the stability issues are resolved.15:38
regXboithat bug is likely going to be needed for multinode DVR15:39
SwamiregXboi: which bug?15:39
carl_baldwinhaleyb: Ping me if you +215:39
SwamiregXboi: This only happens when you have a VM and then attach a router.15:39
haleybcarl_baldwin: will do15:39
SwamiregXboi: right now there is no issue in the gate.15:40
* regXboi isn't convinced15:40
regXboibut that's ok - we work on the ones we've got and then deal with the next crop15:40
SwamiregXboi: right now in multinode in the gate I am see that there is one common test that consistently fails for both DVR and non DVR routers.15:41
SwamiregXboi: understood.15:41
SwamiThat's all I have from the DVR side, it would be great if we can review it quickly and make the gate stable.15:42
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carl_baldwin#topic BGP dynamic routing15:42
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tidwellrrefactoring per good feedback15:43
tidwellrwill break into smaller patches15:44
tidwellralso introducing a slight change to the model15:44
tidwellrI'd like to model autonomous systems explicitly as their own entity, unique on address scope and ASN15:44
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vikramtidwellr: reason for this change?15:45
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tidwellra couple reasons15:47
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vikramtidwellr: ok15:48
tidwellrit's a nice decoupling between address scopes and BGP speakers,  and it gives us a place to hang policy15:48
carl_baldwintidwellr: Sounds okay to me.15:48
carl_baldwintidwellr: Anything else?15:49
vikramtidwellr: I think I need more understanding .. Will catch you offline15:49
tidwellrvikram: ack15:49
carl_baldwin#topic DNS15:49
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carl_baldwinmlavalle: hi15:49
mlavallehi again15:49
mlavalle is complete with all the functionality for floating ips15:49
mlavalleearlier this week I incorportated all the changes requested by the designate team15:50
carl_baldwinAny more on the gate?15:50
mlavallethey wanted to have the PTR's in /24 zones15:50
mlavallenot delete the PTR zones15:51
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mlavalleand make PTR optional based on config parameter15:51
mlavalleall that is in15:51
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mlavalleright now I am fixing the failures in the unit tests15:51
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mlavalleit seems I have a problem with the allembic script that is breaking the unit tests execution15:52
mlavalleI have also started modifying the nova side15:52
mlavalleit seems to be not a big deal15:52
mlavalleso I will be pushing something at the end of this week15:52
mlavalleand I think I have time to devote to the presentation for Tokyo15:52
mlavalleso I will send something to Kiall and carl_baldwin early next week15:53
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Let’s find a time to work on that early next week.15:53
mlavalleyeah, i'll send you a first draft15:53
mlavallethat's all I have this week15:53
carl_baldwinmlavalle: let us now when the patch is in good shape test-wise or if you need anything.15:53
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Thanks15:54
carl_baldwin#topic Address Scopes15:54
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carl_baldwinI spent yesterday beginning to rebase and test out the patches again.  I want to get them merged before summit.15:54
carl_baldwinI’ve even been able to clean them up a little more.15:55
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carl_baldwinThat is all.15:57
carl_baldwin#topic Open Discussion15:57
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regXboido we have an ETA on py34 being fixed?15:58
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regXboiI'll take it to the channel15:59
carl_baldwinregXboi: On that patch?15:59
regXboino I mean in general15:59
carl_baldwinThanks, all!  Great work.16:00
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etoews#startmeeting api wg16:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  8 16:00:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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etoewsjust adding something to agenda...16:01
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etoews#topic agenda16:02
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etoewsif anybody wants to add something, now is a good time ;)16:03
* cdent looks16:03
etoews#topic previous meeting action items16:03
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elmikohmm, i failed to complete my action item =(16:05
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etoewsthe world kept turning :)16:05
elmikogood point ;)16:05
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etoewsdid you still want to do it or just drop it?16:06
elmikoi'll still do it, just needed a good reminder16:06
elmikounless someone else wants to take it16:06
etoewscare to action item yerself?16:06
elmiko#action elmiko to make PR against to add info about the openstack-api irc channel16:06
cdentI noticed a slowdown in the turning of the earth recently. It was a near miss.16:06
stevellewould like to get help with a guideline to need to increase the limit on hours per day. I suspect that we might be able to leverage this16:07
etoews#topic Magnum16:07
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elmikothat looks nice16:08
etoewsthat is 100% not my work ^16:08
etoewsentire credit to jamie hannaford and annegentle16:08
annegentleand really it's 90% Jamie :)16:08
etoewsi just threw it out on swaggerhub to share with others16:08
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etoewsi've been having an email chat with adrian otto (magnum ptl) about getting a liaison from them16:09
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etoewsnow that we have an api ref for magnum, i think it would be good to get some more api wg eyeballs on it16:10
etoewsand have a liaison to work with us on any feedback16:10
stevelleI see it continues the openStack pattern of url commands16:10
etoewsi noticed that too16:11
etoewsbut we don't have a guideline for such a thing16:11
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elmikoetoews: +1 for more engagement with magnum16:12
annegentlesay more about that stevelle, what do you mean?16:12
cdentoh I found it: pause, unpause, stop etc16:12
annegentlecdent: ah ok16:12
annegentlestevelle: is that what you mean?16:12
stevellere: /containers/{identifier}/start16:12
etoewsthat's still better than tunneling imo16:13
stevellewe have had discussions in the WG before about this but it was a while ago16:13
etoewsi vaguely recall...16:13
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etoewsi think miguelgrinberg had an strong opinion on how actions should be done in an api16:14
stevelleunless the API was actually fully designed to use a CQRS pattern, this ends up being not as RESTful as it could be, and it's spreading16:14
stevelleyes, he was one who spoke about it strongly.16:14
etoewsmiguelgrinberg: do you have the time/interest to do a guideline for actions?16:16
miguelgrinbergI could, but I expect it will not be easy to agree on this topic16:17
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etoewsi agree it will not be easy to agree on16:17
miguelgrinbergI'll probably soften my approach a bit, take what some of the APIs do instead of just propose what I would do from sctratch16:17
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elmikoprobably a wise idea ;)16:17
miguelgrinbergbut certainly the /start /stop have to go16:17
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miguelgrinbergOkay, I'll give it a try16:18
etoews#action miguelgrinberg to begin a guideline for actions16:19
etoewsmany thanks miguelgrinberg16:19
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miguelgrinbergetoews: it should be fun :)16:20
etoews#action etoews to get a api wg liaison from magnum16:20
etoews#action etoews annegentle to figure out how to best collaborate on the magnum api ref16:21
etoewsboom. drive by action item on annegentle.16:21
etoewsanything else on magnum?16:22
etoews#topic links16:23
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* etoews searches meeting minutes16:24
annegentleheh I'll take it.16:24
elmikois this about the embedded links href vs ref issue?16:24
etoewsi know we discussed it in the recent past but can't find it16:25
elmikocool, i've started to analyze the openstack apis, but it's been slow going.16:25
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elmikoi am working on creating a list of all references though.16:25
etoewselmiko: what are you doing to analyze?16:26
elmikomainly grepping through the api-ref site16:27
elmikowell, the source wadls16:27
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etoewsi had envisioned just searching through and copying examples of how people are doing links into
elmikook, maybe i'm going about this in an inefficient manner then16:27
etoewsgotcha. that was pretty much what i had in mind.16:27
annegentleyeah either way should work elmiko16:28
elmikoshould i keep going and post my results on the wiki then?16:28
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etoewsi'd say post them as soon as you discover them.16:29
elmikoput it on this page ?16:29
elmikoyea, that's probably smart16:29
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elmikoi'll start posting them by service then16:30
elmikosorry for the delay16:30
elmikogonna escalate this on my trello ;)16:31
etoewsthen we can do some analysis ala
elmikoyea, i figured that was the end goal16:31
etoewsmiguelgrinberg: i just discovered/remembered
etoewsthere's some fodder for the action guideline16:32
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etoewsalthough it doesn't include any examples of the /start /stop stuff16:32
miguelgrinbergetoews: ah, great, didn't know about that. It's useful, the nova style is what I was thinking would work well for openstack16:32
miguelgrinbergand it does support the start/stop actions already16:33
etoewselmiko: need an action item for the links thing?16:34
elmiko#action elmiko create analysis of link references for each service in api-ref16:35
etoews#topic guidelines dashboard16:35
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elmikothis one seems like it might be ready for freeze16:36
elmiko too16:36
etoewsy and y16:37
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elmikodo you want to +2 them?16:37
elmikoalso, have the dashboard been updated with our recent process change?16:37
etoews#action etoews to freeze and
etoewselmiko: which change is that?16:38
elmikousing +2 as the freeze marker, or did we do that awhile ago /me forgets16:38
* etoews goes to check16:39
etoewsyep. step #4
elmikook, cool. and it looks like the dashboard reflects too. thanks =)16:40
etoewsanything we need to do to move along?16:40
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etoewscdent: you have the last comment there.16:40
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etoewsdo you think it needs that explanation before it can merge?16:41
cdentYeah, I intentionally did not leave a vote on with that comment, was just reflecting my own reaction to all the microversion discussions I've seen on the mailing list and elsewhere16:41
elmikoi think we need some grammar cleanup on that one too (as i see draft comments of mine)16:41
cdentI think it is okay (with grammar tidy) to move it in, and then revise later if possible16:42
elmikoagreed, content-wise it seemed ok16:42
cdentIn the sense that the microversion ship has sailed far enough that we dont' want to real it in16:42
cdent(despite the fact that I think it is completely the wrong way to do things ;) )16:42
etoewssorry, i should have said before we *freeze* it16:42
elmikoit needs cleanup before freeze16:43
etoewscdent keeps it reel16:43
cdent /o/16:43
cdent \o\16:43
cdent /o/16:43
elmikothat goes so well with the music i am listening to16:44
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etoewselmiko: can you comment there on the grammar stuff and when it's ready, go through the freeze process?16:44
elmikoetoews: yes16:45
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elmiko#action elmiko comment on and freeze when ready16:45
etoewsany other guidelines to dive into?16:47
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elmikonothing from me16:47
etoews#topic APIImpact16:48
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etoewsanything anyone wants to highlight?16:49
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elmikoi realize that i forgot to add this to the agenda, but could we talk about summit for a few?16:54
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etoews#topic summit16:54
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elmikojust wanted to link this again, as i could use some assistance filling out the agenda for our meeting16:55
cdentelmiko: please hassle me to help you with that16:55
etoewssure. 3.3 is my axe to grind. :)16:55
cdentI've been sort of all around the place lately but should be fairly present in the week running up to summit16:56
elmikocdent: noted, increasing cdent.hassle_factor16:56
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elmikocool, i just wanted to bring it up again16:56
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elmikoi imagine some of my 12hr flight will be spent finalizing these pads16:56
elmikobut, you know, many hands and all... ;)16:57
etoewsif there's nothing else, we can pack it in a whole minute early.16:59
elmikothat was all i had, thanks for any contributions folks want to add there =)16:59
elmikoand cdent, i'll bug you some next week16:59
cdentcool, please and thank you16:59
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elmikoetoews: +116:59
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elmikothanks all!17:00
* cdent waves17:00
docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:00
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docaedo#topic rollcall17:01
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docaedocourtesy ping for kfox1111 kzaitsev_mb j^217:02
kzaitsev_mbI love the idea of courtesy ping =)17:02
kzaitsev_mbsounds sweet )17:02
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docaedohaha - nice way to remind folks :)17:03
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* docaedo is having issues with his IRC client being super lagged, or maybe it's just freenode :/17:04
j^2i think it’s freenode17:04
j^2i’m getting lag too17:05
docaedoj^2: ah good, glad it's not just me17:05
docaedoI'm pretty sure kfox1111 will be joining us, he helped me on the channel just a few minutes ago, but we can move on17:05
docaedo#topic Announcements17:05
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docaedoWe have a new tag after moving a few things around so i could make a new package for pypi17:06
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docaedoI've been working with zigo on making the debian package, and that's when I noticed the (potential) issue with the enabled directory, so I htink today I should be able to finish the deb package17:07
docaedothey've been super helpful, so I think we'll have the app-catalog-ui package in the official debian openstack shortly17:08
j^2that’s awesome!17:08
docaedoI think that's the only announcement I have, is the only app-catalog related thing I've been working on lately17:08
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docaedoj^2: I agree, is a nice thing to have almost done :)17:08
docaedooh I DO have another announcement17:10
docaedoSSL for app catalog landed17:10
docaedoand we updated the content so it renders properly17:10
docaedo#link https://apps.openstack.org17:10
kzaitsev_mbnice addition!17:11
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kzaitsev_mbsummit is in 2 weeks, do we have a schedule for any meetings?17:12
docaedoyes, I was planning to send an email out to the ML today with the two slots we have17:13
docaedoI'm also talking myself out of sending clickbait style emails to get some attention :P17:13
docaedoBut I'm going to at least try to call out folks from glance and heat and ask them to spend some time talking about the overlap17:14
j^2don’t forget we need to have our salesmanship hats on to get more envolvement17:14
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docaedoagreed :) I can get pretty salesy when necessary, I'm looking forward to Tokyo as the app catalog project itself is on much firmer footing now, and I can guarantee I'll be able to keep focused on it for the next few cycles17:15
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docaedo(there was ambiguity on all fronts in Vancouver, so made evangelizing a little trickier)17:16
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docaedoj^2: from the chef recipe side, once app-catalog-ui is in an installable package, is it pretty easy to add that as an option to the horizon recipe?17:18
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docaedonice - accidentally moved on to open discussion there...17:18
docaedo#topic Open discussion17:18
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j^2I got nothing :P17:19
docaedogreat to hear it's relatively easy :) will be something good to mention on the ML once we can tell people how to enable the app catalog UI in chef-managed deployments17:19
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kzaitsev_mbprobably my fault =) just wanted to know if there were any announcements around summit )17:20
j^2docaedo: sounds good, i’ll keep an eye out, granted I’m not great with the ML so i may need a ping17:20
docaedoj^2: no problem at all17:21
docaedoAnyone have open discussion things to discuss?17:21
j^2not here17:22
docaedokzaitsev_mb: anything you wanted to discuss?17:23
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kzaitsev_mbnot really. I've looked up that app-catalog has a slot on the summit, so that's great17:23
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j^2can we announce it here?17:24
kzaitsev_mbI've talked to Serg, and he offered up to 2 hours of murano fishbowl time to discuss app-catalog murano integration.17:24
docaedosure - kzaitsev_mb do you have the two session handy? Otherwise just give me a moment and I'll look them up17:24
docaedokzaitsev_mb: that's great to hear, will be a good opportunity to iron out some stuff!17:25
kzaitsev_mbSo if that's needed — we might ping him about it17:25
docaedoAt Tokyo summit we have the two sessions:17:26
docaedoThursday fishbowl DS8 (55) from 1:50 to 2:3017:26
kzaitsev_mbI have a printed version, can't find the link it was printed from =))17:27
docaedoThursday 2:40 to 3:20 in work room 1317:27
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j^2nice, i need to get my sched together it seems17:28
j^2i’ll man that happen today i guess17:28
docaedokzaitsev_mb: can you ping serg and ask him for an hour?  I think we could cover everything we need in that time and come away with agreements on next steps17:28
docaedoj^2: I'm in the same boat :) have had "figure out tokyo schedule" on my todo list for a while!17:29
kzaitsev_mbdocaedo: sure, will do. He was going to write a letter to ML about murano schedule for summit later this week, I think17:29
docaedokzaitsev_mb: great, would be good to be on the murano agenda - I'm going to try to get on the glance and heat agendas as well17:30
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docaedoOK gents, anything else?17:31
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docaedoI'll take that silence as a no, which means we're done :)17:32
docaedoThanks for joining today, talk to you later on!17:33
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ivar-lazzaro: hi18:00
* tbachman lurks again18:00
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: hi18:00
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: hi!18:00
SumitNaiksatamwaiting for magesh to join18:01
igordcardhi all18:02
SumitNaiksatamigordcard: hi, welcome back18:02
SumitNaiksatamlets get started18:02
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:02
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SumitNaiksatam#info agenda
SumitNaiksatam#topic Packaging18:03
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SumitNaiksatamstarting with this since rkukura mentioned we were on the edge with regards to the fedora packages :-)18:03
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: any blockers for you?18:03
rkukurano blockers - need to do some testing18:03
rkukurathen we’ll get the updated packages pulled into RDO and/or Delorean18:04
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay, so we will make the cut off?18:05
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rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: The drop-from-fedora cutoff?18:05
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yeah18:05
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rkukuraI think we are already clear of that since the packages have been updated to build without broken dependencies18:06
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ah nice, did not realize that you already had their packages into their system18:06
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: hi18:06
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: hi18:06
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks for the update on the packaging18:07
SumitNaiksatamno updates on the integration testing from me18:08
SumitNaiksatam#topic Bugs18:08
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: you are working on #link ?18:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503135 in Group Based Policy "Concurrent subnet allocations from pool can overlap" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:09
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SumitNaiksatamsaw the WIP patch18:09
rkukurayes, initial patch just added logging so I could verify my theory of what the problem is18:09
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:09
rkukuraworking on the fix and should have non-WIP patch later today18:09
SumitNaiksatamcurrently this seems like highest priority for us18:10
SumitNaiksatamnot marked as critical since it does not always happen18:10
rkukurahopefully this will let us make rally require 100% success18:10
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: absolutely, fingers crossed!18:11
ivar-lazzarorkukura: nice! With how many workers?18:11
rkukuraivar-lazzaro: we can turn it up until it breaks18:12
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i believe the fix should be independent of the number of workers18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: :-)18:12
ivar-lazzarojust wondering if it's more than 1 right now18:12
ivar-lazzaroof course we will go over 9000 eventually :D18:13
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: #link or #link ?18:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1489090 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Resource intergrity fails between policy-rule-set & external-policy" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv)18:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1418839 in Group Based Policy "Service config in yaml cannot be loaded" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Magesh GV (magesh-gv)18:14
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: I did not get a chance to work on this yet, right now busy with the NCP testing18:15
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: okay18:15
SumitNaiksatamany other critical bugs that we need to discuss18:15
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: our devstack has default number of worker threads, which is 0, and it means essentially one worker thread18:16
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: rally is instrumented to exercise with a concurrency of 1018:16
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ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: cool! Thanks18:17
SumitNaiksatamby increasing the concurrency we do see these errors18:17
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rkukuraivar-lazzaro: Were you talking about neutron workers or rally workers?18:17
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i believe ivar-lazzaro was referring to neutron workers18:17
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ivar-lazzarorkukura: SumitNaiksatam yes, Neutron workers18:18
SumitNaiksatamit seems that setting the concurrency configuration in rally should not impact if we have only one worker on neutron18:18
SumitNaiksatamhowever it does18:18
rkukuraIts clear from the logging that neutron is executing GBP requests concurrently in the rally tests.18:19
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: not sure default is 0 though, I think this was changed in Kilo to the number of cores running on the host18:19
SumitNaiksatamand we are seeing the same error in a systemt where we have increased the nubmer of neutron api workers18:19
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: the devstack job is defaulting 0 in the conf18:19
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: if internally it executes on multiple cores, then that might explain18:20
SumitNaiksatamhowever we are seeing teh same pattern of concurrency rally results across juno and kilo18:21
SumitNaiksatamwiht, what i understand, to be the same devstack job18:21
SumitNaiksatamperhaps best to test on a local system where we have better control over these parameters18:21
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: but certainly good to investigate if there is some automatic mapping to cores happening18:22
SumitNaiksatamon juno, i we set api workers to 0, and rpc workers to 0, then i have verified that only neutron server process gets spawned18:22
SumitNaiksatami -> if18:23
SumitNaiksatam*only 118:23
rkukuraThere are multiple greenthreads processing API requests within each worker process, aren’t there?18:23
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ivar-lazzaro perhaps that is decided by the number of cores?18:24
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: that would be the Neutron default18:25
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: so unless we force it otherwise on devstack, then that's the case18:25
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: yeah18:26
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: will be good to investigate how is the threading model/number controlled18:26
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rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: agreed18:27
SumitNaiksatam#topic Protocol number support18:27
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SumitNaiksatammageshgv brought up this user requirement #link
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499916 in Group Based Policy "GBP classifier create API does not support custom IP protocol numbers" [High,Confirmed]18:27
SumitNaiksatamis there any objection to allowing integer protocol numbers in teh policy classifier?18:28
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ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: does Neutron allow that on SGs?18:29
mageshgvivar-lazzaro: As far as I know it does18:30
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i was thinking this is something that can be rejected at the driver level if not supported, no?18:30
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mageshgvSumitNaiksatam, ivar-lazzaro: Just checked, Security groups does accept protocol numbers18:31
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: also, we can have some level of translation for well known protocol numbers18:31
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: for neutron #link
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: thanks18:31
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: the translation i believe is available in the UI currently18:31
SumitNaiksatamwell i know it is, we added that support a few weeks back18:32
SumitNaiksatamsince this will be an additive change, i believe it should not create any backward incompatibility?18:33
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SumitNaiksatamokay, so i think we can go ahead and make this minor update to the API (basically in the validation function)18:35
SumitNaiksatamnow our favorite part of the meeting18:35
SumitNaiksatam#topic Node Composition Plugin/Driver/Plumber enhancements18:35
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SumitNaiksatamlast week and over the weekend we reviewed and merged a number of patches on this topic18:35
SumitNaiksatamthere are two specs which we have still not merged (mostly because they have been evolving as ivar-lazzaro has been implementing them):18:36
SumitNaiksatamigordcard: you had a question on the proxy ptg spec?18:37
igordcard yes, just a simple technical question that can be answered by testing the current impl as well :)18:38
igordcardbut it is: "How does TScP currently flow traffic? By routing?"18:38
ivar-lazzaroigordcard: it depends on the attached services18:39
ivar-lazzaroigordcard: TScP creates a topology where many networks are connected by "Services", these can be L2/L3 services18:39
SumitNaiksatamigordcard: both routing and switching18:39
igordcardivar-lazzaro, SumitNaiksatam : and is that the current state or the final state after the changes are merged?18:40
ivar-lazzarothat's already the case18:40
ivar-lazzaronot sure the heat driver still supports it though18:41
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igordcardthanks ivar-lazzaro SumitNaiksatam18:42
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks18:43
ivar-lazzaroby the way, there's a "bonus" patch on top of the current chain18:43
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ivar-lazzaroWe used to have one patch for remote SG implementation18:44
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks, i noticed18:44
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ivar-lazzarowhich however is not supported/working in Neutron18:44
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: its great that you split it form the other patch18:44
ivar-lazzaroI removed that part, but I at least kept the part where we split the SG mapping into a pluggable component18:45
ivar-lazzaroStarting from there, it should be easy to move to a model where sharing PRSs is possible18:45
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: yeah, this makes it easy to merge now and very useful18:45
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: for the remaining patches in the chain,,n,z18:46
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: is there any update to the spec for the HA/cluster model?18:46
ivar-lazzarowith that, and the SC mapping split, we finally have a RMD with less than 2000 LoC :D18:46
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ivar-lazzaroI haven't posted the spec yet18:46
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: i believe there is some change to the internal API for the HA/clustering support?18:46
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: okay18:47
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: were you able to test these patches?18:47
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: actually, the API would be public18:47
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: okay18:47
ivar-lazzaroSumitNaiksatam: although we can change it in the default policy.jsonm18:47
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam: Yes, in progress, I should be able to complete by this weekend18:48
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: nice!18:48
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: okay18:48
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: so are we at a point where we are comfortable with the two posted specs?18:48
SumitNaiksatamigordcard: wanted to check with you as well, since you reviewed18:49
mageshgvSumitNaiksatam:  Yes18:49
SumitNaiksatammageshgv: nice, thanks18:49
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igordcardSumitNaiksatam, yes18:49
SumitNaiksatamigordcard: great, thanks18:49
SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: thanks for the update and all the hard work here!18:50
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:50
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SumitNaiksatamthere was another request from a user to be able to model remote CIDRs in our classifier to filter N-S connectivity18:50
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SumitNaiksatami believe some of us had the discussion earlier, and were considering associating a CIDR with the external policy18:51
SumitNaiksatamjust wanted to bring this up, something we should think through and follow up on18:52
SumitNaiksatamthere was also another request from a user regarding this #link
openstackLaunchpad bug 1501657 in Group Based Policy "Explicit router provided for L3 Policy creation is not used" [High,New] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura)18:52
SumitNaiksatamwhich was supposed to work, but in my testing did not work18:53
rkukuraI have not looked into that yet, but will18:53
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks for volunterring on that18:53
SumitNaiksatamanything else that we missed for today?18:53
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SumitNaiksatamalright, thanks everyone18:54
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