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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 12 00:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 00:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 00:00 |
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| elmiko | anyone around to discuss matters of great api importance? | 00:00 |
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| elmiko | #endmeeting | 00:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 00:05:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-11-12-00.00.html | 00:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-11-12-00.00.txt | 00:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2015/api_wg.2015-11-12-00.00.log.html | 00:05 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: could you be chair? | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | yes | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 12 15:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | good mrning everybody, who is here today? | 15:01 |
| rsxin | help | 15:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:01 |
| rsxin | hi | 15:01 |
| regXboi | moo | 15:01 |
| rsxin | #info | 15:01 |
| carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:01 |
| tidwellr1 | hi | 15:01 |
| rsxin | #HELP | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | agenda for today is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam#Agenda | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Annoucements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Annoucements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| mlavalle | Mitaka-1 is approaching fast. It is Decmber 3rd if I remember correctly | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Yikes | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | any other annoucements from the team? | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on, let's review bugs | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:03 | |
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| mlavalle | we have a new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1478100 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1478100 in neutron "DHCP agent scheduler can schedule dnsmasq to an agent without reachability to the network its supposed to serve" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 15:04 |
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| mlavalle | it is assigned to ZZelle (Cedric) | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | I don't see him on-line today. No patchset has been submitted yet | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | I will monitor progress and follow up with Cedric | 15:06 |
| amuller | he was online earlier | 15:06 |
| amuller | there is a patch for that | 15:06 |
| amuller | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205631/ | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | amuller: thanks! | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | I will update the bug | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | any ational comments amuller? | 15:07 |
| amuller | nope! | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | thanks for working on this! | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1494351 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494351 in neutron "Observed StaleDataError in gate-neutron-dsvm-api tests if reference IPAM driver is used" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | pavel_bondar has been working on a fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223123/ | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | it is awaiting reviews from cores. It has several +1's since last week | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | so I encourage cores to take a look | 15:09 |
| carl_baldwin | Sorry I have not yet finished review of it. I have draft comments but need to wrap it up today. | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | thanks to haleyb. I pinged him last nigh and he reviewed it | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | pavel_bondar also closed a bug last week. So Those are all the bugs I found for today's meeting | 15:11 |
| haleyb | yeah, i didn't +2 because some of that sql code is out of my comfort zone, need to get better at it | 15:11 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: thanks for taking the time today | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: It is a pretty heavy patch to review from that perspective. | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | any bugs that I missed from the team? | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Routed Network Segments | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: you are up | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | I've been working on some code. | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | I got the basic CRUD up for IpNetwork and I've been working on adding relationships. | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242270/ | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm almost done with an update to add those. | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | Hopefully today. I just have a few UTs to write. | 15:14 |
| carl_baldwin | We also need a patch started for adding host <-> Network mapping. | 15:15 |
| carl_baldwin | Any volunteers? | 15:15 |
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| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: if a slow start is possible, I can help. I want to keep an eye on wrapping up DNS | 15:16 |
| tidwellr1 | I'm happy to help | 15:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: mlavalle: Thanks. | 15:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: Would it be too much with your BGP work to start a host mapping patch? It needs some CRUD and DB. | 15:16 |
| tidwellr1 | not at all | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: I just know you're pretty good at that stuff by now. :) | 15:17 |
| tidwellr1 | I can't crank on BGP 24/7 | 15:17 |
| tidwellr1 | need to walk away from it at times | 15:17 |
| rsxin | I'm happy to help on Routed Network Segments topic | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm also thinking that we need to figure out if a Port can exist without a Network. Some have called this late binding. | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: understood | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | rsxin: Hi, have you had a chance to review the spec and patch? | 15:19 |
| rsxin | sure | 15:19 |
| rsxin | I will do tomorrow | 15:19 |
| rsxin | it's night local time now, so tomorrow is ok? | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | rsxin: Please include your IRC nick somewhere on there so that I can associate it with your comments. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | rsxin: Tomorrow is great. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | rsxin: And welcome, it is good to meet you. I don't think we've met before (unless I just don't recognize your nick) | 15:20 |
| rsxin | I will put my irc name on openstack account | 15:21 |
| rsxin | yes, I am watch neutron for long time, but not join it | 15:21 |
| rsxin | I want to be involved | 15:21 |
| haleyb | rsxin: can you set your Real Name in irc as well? | 15:22 |
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| rsxin | sure | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | rsxin: Great. Adding review comments to interesting patches and participating in IRC is usually the best place to start! | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | rsxin: thanks for joining the meeting and the group! | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | Well, exploring how the late binding thing could work and doing the host / network mapping are the things that I'm pushing now. | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | That is all. | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | any more questions for carl_baldwin? | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks! | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:25 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr1, vikram: you are up | 15:25 |
| Na_ | i have one question, in bp, it mentions associating router to bgp speaker, but you have not implemented it right? | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | vikram won't be around for a couple of weeks. I wish him and his family the best. | 15:26 |
| tidwellr1 | yes, absolutely a rough time | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: thanks for the clarification | 15:26 |
| tidwellr1 | Na_: routers are not associated with bgp_speaker | 15:27 |
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| tidwellr1 | Na_: which BP are you looking at? | 15:27 |
| Na_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125401/21/specs/liberty/bgp-dynamic-routing.rst | 15:27 |
| Na_ | it mentions here | 15:27 |
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| Na_ | i think this is the latest one, it is for liberty | 15:28 |
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| tidwellr1 | Na_: we've evolved from this, so it is dated | 15:29 |
| Na_ | 4. Associate a ``Router`` to a ``BGPSpeaker``. That means the router will have dynamic routing capabilities that will let it advertise its routes | 15:29 |
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| tidwellr1 | we have a devref going here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196452/ | 15:29 |
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| tidwellr1 | Na_: the devref is probably more accurate | 15:29 |
| Na_ | ok, thanks | 15:30 |
| tidwellr1 | right now I'm pushing some changes through the review chain that change some code structure | 15:30 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: Should reviewers start hitting the chain? | 15:31 |
| tidwellr1 | I have 1 last patch set to finish with, then I'll be moving through with address scope awareness and CLI polish, then we can really hit it with reviews | 15:31 |
| Na_ | tidwellr1: bgp dynamic routing has many patches, some have conflicts | 15:31 |
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| tidwellr1 | Na_: I've resolved the conflicts except with this last review | 15:32 |
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| Na_ | which patch includes all the code changes? | 15:32 |
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| tidwellr1 | Na_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216994/ is the last in the review chain, but it's in conflict and needs a re-spin anyway | 15:33 |
| Na_ | tidwellr1: thanks | 15:33 |
| Na_ | what about the vpn plan? | 15:33 |
| tidwellr1 | Na_: not for Mitka | 15:34 |
| Na_ | have you started the design? | 15:34 |
| tidwellr1 | Na_: nope | 15:34 |
| tidwellr1 | Na_: this needs to all shake out and merge first imho | 15:34 |
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| tidwellr1 | anyway, we're not ready to hit BGP with reviews yet, but getting close | 15:35 |
| Na_ | so have to wait for long time for vpn | 15:35 |
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| Na_ | why not add vpn in mitka? | 15:36 |
| tidwellr1 | Na_: there's just not time in Mitaka, if you have ideas feel free to look at this work and file an RFE | 15:36 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: thanks. Ping us as soon as they're ready | 15:36 |
| Na_ | if less of resource, i think you can get volunter | 15:36 |
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| Na_ | Mickey has filed RFE, but no response yet | 15:37 |
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| tidwellr1 | Na_: do you have a link? | 15:37 |
| Na_ | yes, give me 1 min | 15:37 |
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| * tidwellr1 is done after this btw | 15:38 | |
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| tidwellr1 | mlavalle: we can move on | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | tidwellr1: thanks! | 15:39 |
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| * pavel_bondar just figured out that meeting is in progress, catching up with log | 15:39 | |
| mlavalle | moving on | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | #topic DNS | 15:39 |
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| Na_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1509431 | 15:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1509431 in neutron "Enhance BGP Dynamic Routing with L2VPN/L3VPN support" [Undecided,New] | 15:39 |
| Na_ | tidwellr1:https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1509431 | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | thanks Na_ we'll take a look | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | I got https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212213/ to pass Jenkins tests | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | and I got several reviews. Working on it | 15:40 |
| * carl_baldwin adds it back to radar | 15:41 | |
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| mlavalle | I have also been adding the code for ports on provider networks, where we want to make the ip_address public | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | the way I am approaching it is that I am going to consider the ip address public if the following conditions are met | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | 1) the netwrok has a dns_domain assigned | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | 2) the port has a dns_name assigned | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | the network has a segment outside of the range assigned to tenant networks. This tells me the network was created explicitely as a provider network | 15:43 |
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| mlavalle | condition 3^^^^ | 15:43 |
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| mlavalle | I should push the code over the next few days | 15:44 |
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| mlavalle | and that's all I have today. Thanks for the reviews | 15:44 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Interesting. Condition 3 is the only thing that sets it apart as "public". It sounds a little bit heuristicky but I'd have to think about it to be sure. | 15:44 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's discuss in channel | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | this is what I wanted to trigger, feedback! | 15:46 |
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| mlavalle | any more questions or comments? | 15:46 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Sounds like progress. I'll need it to sink it a bit. | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: thanks. let's move on | 15:47 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Address Scopes | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:47 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm looking to get the server-side RPC patches merged. | 15:48 |
| tidwellr1 | carl-baldwin: what's left to tie up? | 15:48 |
| carl_baldwin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189948/19 | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: You've been very good at reviewing them. Thanks. | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | The link is where the chain starts. It is a simple linear chain. | 15:49 |
| steve_ruan | hi carl | 15:49 |
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| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: hi | 15:50 |
| steve_ruan | I have a question how address scope data path work | 15:50 |
| steve_ruan | could u spare me some time after this meeting | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: Actually today could be kind of difficult. I'm actually traveling in a bit with my family. How would Monday do? | 15:51 |
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| * neiljerram is sorry to be late | 15:51 | |
| steve_ruan | sure | 15:51 |
| steve_ruan | I will send u a email | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: Thanks. | 15:52 |
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| johnbelamaric | *has to drop off now* | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | johnbelamaric: bye | 15:52 |
| tidwellr1 | carl_baldwin: is this review chain complete ie it contains all the reviews needed to tie off address scopes? | 15:52 |
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| mlavalle | johnbelamaric: thanks! | 15:53 |
| Na_ | tidwellr1: if i want to advertise tenant network, the subnets of the tenant network must be in the address scope, right? | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: I believe so. | 15:53 |
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| tidwellr1 | carl_baldwin: sweet | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr1: steve_ruan: It is the data path patch at the end that I have the most concern about. | 15:53 |
| steve_ruan | in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180267/9/specs/liberty/address-scopes.rst | 15:54 |
| steve_ruan | networks in same address scope will not use nat | 15:54 |
| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: That is right. | 15:55 |
| steve_ruan | if networks connect to different routers, how it happen | 15:55 |
| steve_ruan | for example, in ovs, all traffic goto be-ex without nat? | 15:56 |
| Na_ | carl baldwin: the address scope is significant when multiple tenants share one address scope, right? | 15:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: This is a change only to the routers. No change to the layer 2 stuff. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | Na_: yes that is significant. | 15:57 |
| Na_ | NAT is done in router | 15:57 |
| steve_ruan | Have this already in the patch? | 15:57 |
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| steve_ruan | I will check the patch | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: Yes, it is in the final patch in the series. The one I really need eyeballs on. | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: Thanks. | 15:58 |
| steve_ruan | thanks | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | steve_ruan: I'll look for your feedback. | 15:58 |
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| Na_ | carl_baldwin: so do you allow only one tenant use the address scope, not multiple? | 15:58 |
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| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: We're about out of time. Was there anything else? | 15:58 |
| carl_baldwin | Na_: There are shared address scopes. | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | carl_baldwin: nope, let's move on | 15:58 |
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| mlavalle | thank you all for showing up to the meeting, we are out of time | 15:59 |
| johnbelamaric | *is back just in time for the end* :) | 15:59 |
| tidwellr1 | bye | 15:59 |
| johnbelamaric | bye | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 15:59:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-11-12-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-11-12-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2015/neutron_l3.2015-11-12-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | Na_: I suggest continue your questions in the Neutron channel | 16:00 |
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| steve_ruan | bye | 16:00 |
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| tidwellr1 | NA_: see pm | 16:01 |
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| Na_ | what is neutron channel name? | 16:02 |
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| Na_ | mlavalle: when? | 16:02 |
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| mlavalle | Na_: now, ping carl_baldwin there and continue the conversation. He might not have time right now, but he'll get back to you | 16:03 |
| carl_baldwin | Na_: #openstack-neutron | 16:04 |
| Na_ | mlavalle: what is the channel id? | 16:04 |
| Na_ | mlavalle: thanks | 16:04 |
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| docaedo | Anyone here for the app-catalog meeting today? | 17:00 |
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| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 12 17:01:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | o/ | 17:01 |
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| docaedo | I suspected we would not have it this week due to anticipated low attendance :) BUT wanted to show up here just in case. | 17:02 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:02 |
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| docaedo | hello kzaitsev_mb | 17:02 |
| kzaitsev_mb | everything still seems very slow after Tokyo, even though m-1 is closer than we think | 17:03 |
| docaedo | #topic Status updates | 17:03 |
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| docaedo | yeah, things are slow for now but I suspect next week we'll start making progress on glare efforts | 17:04 |
| docaedo | on the status update topic, I'm also in progress of setting up python server on apps.openstack.org which will improve performance and give us the first steps along the road to implementing the API | 17:04 |
| docaedo | Any updates from your side? | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | None from my side, really, except for the fact, that the next thing I'm going to focus is glare for app-catalog, I think I've convinced everyone around me, that it's time to (if not long overdue, really ) | 17:07 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Although I'm going to be away for most of the next week, but I guess ativelkov is comming back from Japan finally =) | 17:08 |
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| docaedo | great - we can coordinate on the channel and ML then | 17:10 |
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| docaedo | Ok I think that's all - short two person meeting this week :) | 17:11 |
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| docaedo | thanks for coming kzaitsev_mb! | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sure =) | 17:12 |
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| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 17:13:18 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-11-12-17.01.html | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-11-12-17.01.txt | 17:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2015/app_catalog.2015-11-12-17.01.log.html | 17:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: igordcard mageshgv: hi | 18:00 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: hi | 18:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:01 |
| igordcard | hi all | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i was hoping not lose people today with the time change | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | seems like we might have lost a couple | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | its 3 mins past, so lets start | 18:03 |
| igordcard | the never-ending problem | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 12 18:03:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Standing_items & https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Nov_12th_2015 | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: do you know if mageshgv is around? | 18:04 |
| hemanthravi | let me check | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i wanted to discuss this patch which posted today #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244746/ | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | with reference to #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515632 | 18:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1515632 in Group Based Policy UI "Clearing the protocol in Classifier is not possible" [Undecided,New] | 18:05 |
| hemanthravi | mageshv not around | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i am wondering if the above is a client issue or a backend side fix | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: we already allow the protocol to be set to None on the backend, hence any user friendly options which we need to add should ideally go in the client | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyway, i think we can follow up in gerrit on this, i just thought if mageshgv was around it might be easier to wrap up it up here | 18:08 |
| hemanthravi | as opposed to handling "any" in the backend | 18:08 |
| hemanthravi | ? | 18:08 |
| hemanthravi | will check with him | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: yes | 18:08 |
| mageshgv | hi | 18:09 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: sorry, am on another call | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i believe the issue is that the CLI will not allow you to unset certain attributes today, since it cannot distinguish between a value not specified (during an update) versus an actual value of None (used to unset an attribute) | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: np | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: you can read the back scroll whenever you get a chance | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: if its indeed that issue, then we should update the CLI to accept an “unset” argument | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: similarly, the UI can have an “any” option | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on (unless mageshgv wants to discuss this further today) | 18:10 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: one question | 18:11 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: sure | 18:11 |
| mageshgv | So we are planning to go with having None as it is today ? | 18:11 |
| mageshgv | because the cli framework cannot send None as a value to a field as far as I checked | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: my recollection is that, None, as it is today, indicates that all protocols are matched for that classifier (and which i believe is also how SG does it) | 18:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: right, and hence the suggestion to update the CLI to take an extra argument such as “—unset-protocol” | 18:13 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: Okay, so we implement a similar option for the UI as well ? | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps there is a better way to phrase that… | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: yes | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i believe this is how its done for SG as well | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: and i think we already have the “any” option in the UI, no? | 18:14 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: actually the "any" doesnt work today | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: ok | 18:15 |
| mageshgv | I was trying to do something like this | 18:15 |
| mageshgv | #link https://review.openstack.org/244746 | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: yes | 18:15 |
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| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: tweaking the cli should work as well and then we can map the "Any" in UI to this new operation | 18:16 |
| mageshgv | for update | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: i believe the other problem here is that covert function here just returns on None | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: right | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: we also have the other bug to allow integer protocol numbers | 18:17 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: I was trying to preserve the old model and adding Any at the same time | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: and the backend seems to support those integer values | 18:18 |
| * rkukura will be back in a minute | 18:18 | |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: Yes, I went through it too today, looks like we need one change though - the DB has it as an enum | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: so we might need to update the CLI and UI anyway for supporting the protocol numbers | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: oh bummer! | 18:19 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: That might be tricky to do a data migration | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: hmmm | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: need to think a little more as to whats the best way to do it, lets discuss offline | 18:20 |
| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mageshgv: but we can probably use this patch to fix both (handling of None, and the protocol numbers) | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right on time | 18:21 |
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| mageshgv | SumitNaiksatam: okay | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura posted this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243334/ | 18:22 |
| rkukura | A migration translating protocol names to numbers should not be difficult. | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this allows us to bail out of two nasty situations #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470646 and #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510327 | 18:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470646 in Group Based Policy "Deleting network associated with L2P results in infinite loop" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1510327 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Deleting groups leads to subnet-delete in infinite loop " [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:22 |
| rkukura | This patch doesn’t solve either of the problems - it just limits the loop and adds some logging. | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right | 18:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i wasnt sure that we needed to iterate 100 times before bailing out, but i am not stuck on that | 18:24 |
| rkukura | I still don’t even have a theory on what causes bug 1510327 | 18:24 |
| openstack | bug 1510327 in Group Based Policy "GBP: Deleting groups leads to subnet-delete in infinite loop " [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510327 - Assigned to Robert Kukura (rkukura) | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if everyone is fine with adding this instrumentation we can merge this patch | 18:24 |
| rkukura | I wanted to be safe enough that we didn’t give up before the loop would eventually succeed. 100 is probably more than enough, but I kind of want there to be enough iterations logged that people notice. | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok so moving, since we have a lot of items to cover | 18:25 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont have any other critical bugs that i need to bring up here | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else wants to discuss any specific bugs/patches? | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | there are a few long standing ones which i want to touch later in the agenda (hopefully ivar will be around at that time) | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging | 18:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Packaging (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:27 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything new to discuss? | 18:27 |
| rkukura | No new developments, but I need to update the fedora packages with the latest releases, and make sure RDO is getting updated. | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | CLI issue mentioned in the agenda is no longer an issue, i should have removed it | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: oh yeah on that, you can perhaps hold off, since we will have a new stable release next monday | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we found some bugs and fixed them | 18:28 |
| rkukura | ok | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and there are more fixes expected | 18:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but thanks for keeping that on the radar | 18:29 |
| rkukura | np | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Integration/Rally tests | 18:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Integration/Rally tests (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:29 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | during the summit we agreed to make these jobs voting | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on the rally tests we are waiting for some fixes to the test suite | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | once that happens we will attempt to do this | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hopefullly we can get to the bottom of the “host_ip” not found devstack error as well before that so that we dont have unnecessary false triggers in the gate | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Docs | 18:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:31 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | few weeks back i discussed that we need to move the API spec and the design documentation in-tree, still not gotten to it, but thats the plan (you will see what i mean when i post the patches) | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic QoS Action | 18:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "QoS Action (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:32 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks for bringing this up | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: over to you | 18:32 |
| igordcard | so I see that QoS is something that GBP wanted to have since the beginning and it makes perfectly sense to have it | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: right | 18:33 |
| igordcard | I would like to help/enable it, but I would first like to hear how you are imagining it to be | 18:34 |
| igordcard | oh, and of course, making use of the current Neutron QoS API extensions | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: at the most basic level, since its an action associated with a rule, which has a classifier, the expectation would be that the QoS would applied to traffic that matches the classifier | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rest of the team, please feel free to pitch in here with your thoughts | 18:36 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Wouldn’t we want to be able to apply QoS and redirect to a service chain? Seems like an action could only do one or the other. | 18:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: agreed in cases we would want to able to apply more than one action | 18:37 |
| igordcard | rkukura, in that case QoS would have to be guaranteed for the whole path of the chain right? | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: even redirect is an implicit allow | 18:37 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: right | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: igordcard: we actually allow a list of actions for a policy-rule | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | https://github.com/openstack/group-based-policy/blob/master/gbpservice/neutron/extensions/group_policy.py#L603-L606 | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the dificult part is to compose this list if the order matters | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but i dont think there is any ordering issue with QoS and Redirect | 18:38 |
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| rkukura | igordcard: I’m not clear yet on what the neutron QoS API guarantees - not sure if it guarantees at least a certain minimum bandwidth or guarantees a maximum bandwidth won’t be exceeded, or both. This might impact what we need to do within a chain. | 18:39 |
| igordcard | so what I could do to kick this off is propose a spec for a new QoS action which, for now, would not "live together" with the redirect action; and then make an implementation for it, leveraging the neutron APIs | 18:39 |
| ivar-lazzaro | mmm | 18:39 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: List of actions seems to resolve my concern, and I don’t think order would matter. | 18:39 |
| * ivar-lazzaro feels something it off | 18:39 | |
| igordcard | rkukura, the neutron APi allows for bandwidth limiting, max rate at least I think | 18:39 |
| hemanthravi | if it's enforcing max-rate, we might not need to anything in the chain since it's being enforced at the entry | 18:40 |
| rkukura | igordcard: In that case, limiting it at once place should be fine (rather than at each hop in a chain) | 18:40 |
| igordcard | and after this initial QoS basic support we could improve it for the most difficult scenarios, like qpplying QoS for the whole chains | 18:41 |
| hemanthravi | +2 ? | 18:41 |
| rkukura | igordcard: I agree on starting with something simple | 18:41 |
| igordcard | hemanthravi, yes, indeed | 18:41 |
| igordcard | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/qos-api-extension.html | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we need to revisit what it means to have two rules with the same classifier and different actions in the same PRS | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | because then it leads to ordering issues | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | to get around this we added the list of actions | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: but they all seems to imply "allow" so far | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right, allow is implicit | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: you had some other conflicting thought earlier? | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: so reordering might not be needed as long as all the operations get applied | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: yes | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Oh yeah, like why did I find myself right through the meeting if I joined half an hour earlier | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and then I realized, time zones. | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: you missed the time change | 18:44 |
| ivar-lazzaro | yep | 18:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i sent a reminder earlier today, but i should have proabably sent it yesterday | 18:45 |
| ivar-lazzaro | it's ok, my bad | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: so the proposal is that initially the QoS would not apply to redirect? | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: np! | 18:46 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam, yes | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: okay | 18:46 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: does the initial Neutron implementation already have traffic classificaiton? | 18:47 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: or it's just applied by port regardless of the type of traffic? | 18:47 |
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| igordcard | I might test it out with redirect too, considering that in the case of max rate it should be enough to limit at the source - but I wouldn't commit on that, also because more types of QoS will probably be available in the future | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: okay | 18:48 |
| igordcard | there should be some way to specify "simultaneous" actions to apply, or something like that | 18:48 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I ask because I'm not sure whether we really want this to be applied to an action ad opposed to a policy that simply applies to a "group" (Gold/Silver/Bronze groups) | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: yes, thats the list of actions provision | 18:49 |
| igordcard | ivar-lazzaro, well yeah I was thinking about that and it might be a problem | 18:49 |
| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: so it is port based? no classification? | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ivar-lazzaro has a good question regarding where neutron applies QoS today | 18:49 |
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| igordcard | ivar-lazzaro, QoS is applied to ports or networks | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: that makes sense from a neutron perspective | 18:50 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: ok | 18:50 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: I think Miguel's team is working on defining a classifier for Neutron though | 18:51 |
| igordcard | if there's no way around that today, then in a first phase no classification will be possible | 18:51 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: in order to cover more complex cases (with networking-sfc as well) | 18:51 |
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| igordcard | ivar-lazzaro, and there is work for a Neutron "flow classifier" coming from the networking-sfc folks | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right | 18:51 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | ajo: Hi there! ^^ | 18:52 |
| igordcard | ivar-lazzaro, maybe the same then? | 18:52 |
| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: yeah probably | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: so you are suggesting that when the QoS action is used the protocol classifier in the rule would always be “any” | 18:53 |
| igordcard | both QoS and classification work seem to be moving at high speed | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: so Neutron QoS is available in kilo or liberty? | 18:53 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam, as a first step, yes, if there isn't a straightforward workaround for now | 18:53 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam, it's subject to more investigation from my part | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: okay, i am thinking if we can enforce this at the driver level, and keep the API more comprehensive | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: sure | 18:54 |
| igordcard | one of the folks in my team is starting on Neutron QoS contributions so that is a plus for everybody | 18:54 |
| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: one more question, let's say I want to rate limit the traffic that gets to my server: where is the rate limiting applied? The server's port? Neutron's Router? Client's Port? | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: nice!! | 18:54 |
| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: ++ | 18:55 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam, Liberty | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ah, i was hoping it was kilo | 18:55 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam, yes I was also envisioning that (driver vs api line) | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ok cool | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ivar-lazzaro’s question ^^^ | 18:56 |
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| igordcard | ivar-lazzaro, so inbound traffic? you can do it for either the client or server port, but I'm not sure now if the limiting is made to the total traffic - in which case it would be bad if there were other flows | 18:57 |
| igordcard | ivar-lazzaro, let me check better and talk to you offline | 18:57 |
| ivar-lazzaro | igordcard: ok Thanks | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks! | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we only have a couple of mins | 18:58 |
| ivar-lazzaro | The way I see it, we should not be limited to a QoS action alone | 18:58 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but we should think about the use cases and start from there | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Liberty release | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty release (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:58 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | I was working on a patch to sync with liberty | 18:58 |
| * tbachman wonders if he got the wrong time for the IRC meeting :( | 18:58 | |
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| SumitNaiksatam | one problem i am facing is that we have dependencies on vendor packages in the UTs | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: sorry, missed notifying you! | 18:59 |
| tbachman | no worries | 18:59 |
| igordcard | ivar-lazzaro, there is a direction attribute in the Neutron QoS API | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and those vendor packages need to be updated as well | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats delaying this sync up activity | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we are out of time | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | please take a look at these two specs: #link https://review.openstack.org/242781 and #link https://review.openstack.org/239743 (the latter i believe is in WIP) | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks all! | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 19:00:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-11-12-18.03.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-11-12-18.03.txt | 19:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2015/networking_policy.2015-11-12-18.03.log.html | 19:01 |
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| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Thanks! | 19:01 |
| rkukura | bye | 19:01 |
| ivar-lazzaro | bye! | 19:01 |
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