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SergeyLukjanovhey sahara fols13:58
elmikomorning SergeyLukjanov13:58
esikachevhey!13:59
mionkinhi13:59
JerryLi=:)13:59
AndreyPavlovhi13:59
NikitaKonovalovo/14:00
vgridnevhi folks14:00
SergeyLukjanov#startmeeting sahara14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 14:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'sahara'14:00
SergeyLukjanov#chair elmiko14:00
SergeyLukjanov#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda14:00
openstackCurrent chairs: SergeyLukjanov elmiko14:00
SergeyLukjanov#topic News / updates14:00
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crobertsrhHello/14:00
tmckayhello14:00
sreshetnyako/14:01
crobertsrhThanks for all the reviews on the UI re-org.14:01
crobertsrhI'll be re-working the documentation over the coming days.14:01
vgridnevI think that base things are finished for health checks, waiting reviews and saharaclient release14:01
esikachevi am working on improvement scenario tests, updating of sahara-ci14:01
tmckaynews, updates --  I am working on decoupling the logic around "use_floating_ips".  There are 2 things here: 1) assign floating ips, and 2) use them for the management network14:01
elmikoi'm working on api v2, and reporting security bugs. also, i've got a pull request for a blog post about sahara on the security project blog.14:02
elmiko#link https://github.com/openstack-security/openstack-security.github.io/pull/1314:02
tmckayespecially when we consider (someday!) mixed baremetal/vm environments, we should be able to control floating ip use per cluster, or per node group even14:02
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tmckaylooks like it will work fine for neutron, but nova networking may have a legacy wrinkle or two14:02
tmckayI'll post a spec when I'm sure it works :)14:03
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NikitaKonovalovI'm working on some minor UI improvements for duration columns.14:03
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weitingWe are working on nfs-as-a-data-source and would like to know if the bp can be accepted in Mitaka? We really would like to push this feature in Mitaka.14:05
tmckayoh, question for open discussion later, I tried to launch mapr cluster with a default template, and I got "clbd failed to start". Anybody here know why that might be?14:05
weitingThis is bp link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210839/14:05
tmckayweiting, feature freeze is next week14:05
elmikoweiting: the feature freeze for mitaka is less than a week away14:05
tmckaycode would have to be finished and reviewed14:05
elmikoweiting: you could write to the dev mailing list to request an exception14:05
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tmckayelmiko, that is true, ++14:06
weitingSo sorry about that since we don't have enough resources to implement this feature and now we got the resource to do that.14:07
huichunWorking one EDP patches14:07
weitingHowever, I will try to request an exception for this feature.14:07
crobertsrhweiting:  I'll certainly be up for reviewing code it if makes it in.14:07
tmckayweiting, what is your estimate on time to implement?14:07
elmikoweiting: if you think it can be done before mitaka release, definitely post to the ML for an exception14:08
tmckayweiting, the mitaka schedule is here14:08
weitingAfter our review, almost all the implementation has been finished, but we need to implement some codes in UI side.14:08
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tmckay#link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html14:08
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vgridnevhuichun, hi. Can you explain reasons of your -1 on this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276067/ ? Empty -1 makes me sad14:09
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huichunvgridnev:  VG sorry, my fault +1 I mean14:10
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vgridnevany news / updates?14:13
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SergeyLukjanov#topic Final Mitaka release for python-saharaclient14:14
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SergeyLukjanovso, we need to have  final release for the client asap14:15
toskyis the plan still to deprecate the CLI clients in this cycle?14:15
elmikoare there any pending reviews we need to address?14:15
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tmckaygood question. We may also have to be lenient with CI :)14:15
tmckayif all the tests pass in a composite of different tests on the same patch, I think we should workflow+114:16
tmckayalthough I guess we don't actually have to freeze until Wednesday14:16
SergeyLukjanovwe have to have client release for the horizon patches14:16
elmikoeven after we +W, it still has to pass CI once more before merge. so it should be ok, just check the failing CI logs to ensure that it's not a problem with the patch.14:17
vgridnevhealth checks stuff was merged to client already14:17
SergeyLukjanovso IMO we need client by end of this week14:17
tmckayelmiko, ++14:17
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: are there any high priority reviews we should know about?14:17
AndreyPavlovi will send a small patch for CLI later today14:17
SergeyLukjanovthere are no open important reviews14:18
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SergeyLukjanovAndreyPavlov what kind of a patch? is it important for release?14:18
vgridnevI guess no14:20
AndreyPavlovSergeyLukjanov it's hard to say. it will not change existing behaviour14:20
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SergeyLukjanovso, probably we don't need to wait for it14:20
AndreyPavlovok then14:20
SergeyLukjanovanything else to include into the final release?14:20
AndreyPavlovthere are two patches currently on review14:21
AndreyPavlovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/218606/14:21
AndreyPavlovthis one should not be merged i guess14:21
AndreyPavlovuntil resume feature14:21
SergeyLukjanovagreee14:21
elmiko+114:21
AndreyPavlovand this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26801114:21
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AndreyPavlovidk if it works or not, more like "nice to have"14:22
vgridnev+114:22
huichunAndreyPavlov:  I will update this patch14:22
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elmikoAndreyPavlov: that second patch looks really nice, +1 to debug in tox =)14:22
tmckayit would be very nice to have ... however, it's more a dev thing anyway, so if it's in master we can all benefit from it14:22
huichunSeems merge conflict now14:23
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tmckay#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:tmckay%2540redhat.com+status:open14:24
tmckaythose are mine, I think they should all go in :) We could call them bugs14:24
SergeyLukjanovre client release14:24
tmckaymissing default templates for spark 160, for sure14:25
tmckayand deprecating spark 114:25
SergeyLukjanovI think there is no release blockers right now, so, I'm gonna submit release request by EOD14:25
vgridnevtmckay, links seems to be unrelated for client14:25
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tmckayvgridnev, oh, sorry, I was talking general freeze14:25
SergeyLukjanovit's a next topic tmckay  :)14:25
tmckayheh, ok14:25
SergeyLukjanovany objections on client release?14:26
tmckayno14:26
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AndreyPavlovno14:26
vgridnevno objections14:26
SergeyLukjanov#topic M-3 & FF is coming, let's collect high prio reviews14:26
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vgridnevSergeyLukjanov, any etherpad for this?14:27
elmikovgridnev++14:27
SergeyLukjanov#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-mitaka-ff14:27
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tmckayok, I will add my earlier 3 related to spark. I think they are waiting just for CI14:29
vgridnevI think that CDH 5.5 is the most important reviews, ambari scaling and ambari HA; health checks stuff. also tmckay's changes14:30
vgridnevand probably we should enable ambari by default in this release14:30
tmckayvgridnev, ++. cdh 5.5 review is big, I suggest we all download and actually try to run it14:31
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elmikoconsidering that the ambari plugin is new, maybe we should give it a cycle to settle in before we enable as default?14:32
elmiko(i mean, we are merging it at the freeze basically)14:32
vgridnevelmiko, it was added in the liberty, actually14:33
elmikoah, my mistake then14:33
tmckayrecent patches are improvements, I think, like scaling14:33
elmikofair, i withdraw my objection14:33
vgridnevelmiko, also, current hdp is too outdated14:34
elmikovgridnev: +1 to that14:34
toskydefinitely outdated14:34
toskyI didn't check recently, is the CI for Ambari more stable nowadays?14:34
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tmckayvgridnev, so do we just add ambari, or do we add ambari and make hdp not default?14:34
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tmckayI suppose it needs a deprecation for a cycle before that14:34
toskytmckay: they are separate plugins, covering different versions14:35
tmckayfair enough14:35
vgridnevtmckay, I think that we can make hdp 2.0.6 deprecated, and remove in begging of newton (is that a next cycle?)14:35
NikitaKonovalovis there a way to gently say "please dont use old hdp, we want to drop it" ?14:35
elmikoi'm +1 for making hdp non-default14:35
SergeyLukjanov(folks, start adding prio reviews to the etherpad)14:36
tmckayvgridnev, yep, newton. sounds good14:36
toskyfine, but how to make it non-default?14:36
SergeyLukjanov++ for hdp 2.0.6 deprecation14:36
toskyI mean, if you want to use >=2.3, you have no choice but use the new one14:36
elmikoi can make a patch to the config options14:36
vgridnevI am ok with making that non-default14:36
tmckaytosky, good point. we could leave hdp until all the old releases drop off ....14:36
vgridnevelmiko, I did one already14:36
tmckayeventually, everything through 2.3 will be deprecated ...14:37
vgridnev#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284719/14:37
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elmikovgridnev: lol, i'm slow to day ;)14:37
elmikovgridnev: oh, i meant. i'll make a patch to remove hdp from default. if we are agreed about that?14:37
tmckayhmm, maybe we want to do that in newton?14:38
tmckayunsure14:38
toskyat least we could move it at the end of the list, even if enabled by default14:38
elmikogiven the state of hdp, and if we are making ambari default, i don't see why not to remove it.14:38
tmckayoh, is that list displayed in order, I never noticed14:38
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toskyit does not change anything, just looks... different14:38
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toskymaybe14:39
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tmckayelmiko, hmm, well, remove by default is not the same as deprecate,  you're right14:39
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elmikothe only people this will affect are those who using configuration files generated from the repo, probably not existing users.14:39
vgridnevelmiko, +1. We can add to docs that hdp2.0.6 deprecated; if you need that please enable that in sahara.conf file14:39
elmikoi think the impact is minimal14:39
crobertsrhthat sounds reasonable, +114:40
elmikook, i'll make a patch today14:40
tmckayit would be people with a default setting for plugins, to be more precise14:40
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elmikotmckay: right14:40
tmckayalright, I'll give it a +214:40
elmikomaybe we should also generate a warning in the logs about hdp being deprecated?14:40
tmckayelmiko, make sure to include a release note14:40
elmikotmckay: ack14:41
tmckayelmiko, well, deprecation is different. 2.0.6 we can deprecate in newton, beyond that we'll have to decide14:41
tmckayonce all the versions supported by the plugin are deprecated, it can just disappear14:41
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tmckayit's slowly going EOL14:42
elmikoright, i was just thinking about a warning. no worries14:42
tosky(it's just one version)14:42
elmikoyeah, i'll put the patch up and we can debate there ;)14:43
tmckaywarning may not be bad, if we know what the deprecation plan is14:43
tmckay++14:43
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elmikocan we talk api v2 for a minute?14:47
vgridnevSergeyLukjanov, ?14:48
SergeyLukjanov#topic API v2 progress14:48
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elmiko\o/14:48
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273316/14:48
huichunelmiko: API V2 time14:48
elmikoi would like to get that merged14:48
SergeyLukjanovsorry, I've digged too deep into the reviews :)14:48
elmikohaha14:48
crobertsrhbah, I keep forgetting to look at them14:49
elmikoplease, if people could review that. it does not affect sahara at all in the default deployment14:49
elmikobut, it does allow me to start pushing more apiv2 patches14:49
elmikoi don't think these should be affected by the feature freeze14:49
elmikoand i *really* don't want this patch to languish till after the mitaka release14:49
elmikoi've also added many more items to the work list at14:50
elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sahara/api-v214:50
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vgridnevelmiko, +2'ed14:50
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elmikoare there any objections to getting the base of the v2 api in before we release mitaka?14:51
tmckay++, I think we should merge this week, for sure14:51
elmikothanks guys14:51
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* tmckay checks if he still has a +214:51
* tmckay he does!14:51
tmckayvgridnev, do you want to workflow, or should I ;-)14:52
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elmikook, that was all i wanted to bring up. thanks everyone!14:52
vgridnevtmckay, I guess SergeyLukjanov can do so14:53
tmckaylol, yes. but will he? ;-)14:53
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esikachevSergeyLukjanov: next topic?14:54
SergeyLukjanov#topic Open discussion14:54
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esikachev(14:54
SergeyLukjanovwe have only 5 mins left, sorry14:54
esikachevokay14:55
elmikoesikachev: did you want to talk about the scenario test stuff?14:55
tmckayokay, mapr cluster, "clbd failed to start". Anybody know how to fix this?  Must just be a setting, I think, but I used default template14:55
esikachevelmiko: in spec i am spoke about releases of sahara-tests, all features for it implemented. what did you think about it?14:55
vgridnevtmckay, I tried to bring maps folks to irc, but still can't see them in here14:56
tmckayvgridnev, thanks14:56
vgridnevmaps -> mapr14:56
toskyI thought we were going to keep it branchless like tempest; on the other side, tempest does some release (for example before dropping the support for some openstack release)14:56
elmikoesikachev: i think it sounded good on my first read, but i need to re-review it14:56
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toskywhat do you mean here by releases of sahara-tests?14:56
elmiko(i am not a tempest expert though, by any means)14:57
esikachevelmiko: in sahara-tests only scenario framework14:57
esikachevniw14:57
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esikachevnow14:57
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toskymy question still is valid :)14:58
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elmiko2 min, then we should take this to #openstack-sahara14:58
tmckayoh, open discussion, I had a crazy idea I'll mention here. What about a Manila driver/plugin that makes swift look like an nfs share?14:59
esikachevwe can discuss on next meeting14:59
elmikok14:59
esikachevabout scenario tests14:59
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tmckayelmiko, then we wouldn't need any credentials at all ^^14:59
tmckaykind of roundabout, but then again, we are trying to cross from hadoop-land into openstack land14:59
elmikotmckay: certainly sounds attractive, if not cumbersome (requires operator to install yet another openstack service)14:59
tmckaymanila would handle acls the way it does now14:59
toskytmckay: ask manila people if it makes sense14:59
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tmckayyeah, just thought of it yesterday15:00
huichunvgridnev:  updated sorry for wrong click I mean +1 original15:00
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elmikowe should take this to -sahara15:00
tmckayelmiko, then we could make manila the premier file store for sahara15:00
SergeyLukjanov#endmeeting15:00
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tidwellr#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 15:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tidwellr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)"15:00
rjanakiramanhi15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:00
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tidwellr#topic Announcements15:01
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tidwellrM-3 is almost upon us15:01
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tidwellrI believe March 3rd is M-315:02
mlavalleit is15:02
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tidwellrany other announcements?15:03
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tidwellrif not, let's talk bugs real quick15:04
tidwellr#topic Bugs15:04
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tidwellrit appears we've still got the same 4 bugs we discussed last week that are being worked15:04
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147810015:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1478100 in neutron "DHCP agent scheduler can schedule dnsmasq to an agent without reachability to the network its supposed to serve" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily)15:05
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154309415:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1543094 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] DB exceeded retry limit (RetryRequest) on create_router call" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Salvatore Orlando (salvatore-orlando)15:05
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154451515:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1544515 in neutron "[tempest] No metadata route in test_dualnet* family" [High,Confirmed]15:05
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154770515:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1547705 in python-neutronclient "There is no way to use the default subnet pool without first looking it up" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin)15:05
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juno_zhui think there is another bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/152505915:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1525059 in neutron "Add support for external vxlan encapsulation to neutron router" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to steve (ruansx)15:06
johnbelamaricPavel may be able to work on 1543094 - we will discuss today if he can take some time soon. but not for M-315:06
* carl_baldwin trying to focus on the meeting, mid-cycle keeps distracting him. :)15:06
mlavallejohnbelamaric: that would be good. Salvatore mentioned last week he is not having bandwidth to work on it15:06
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johnbelamaricmlavalle: yes, carl_baldwin mentioned that so we will see what we can do15:06
mlavalle:-)15:07
carl_baldwinI have changes up for bug 154770515:07
openstackbug 1547705 in python-neutronclient "There is no way to use the default subnet pool without first looking it up" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547705 - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin)15:07
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carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/28202115:07
carl_baldwinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/282583/15:07
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juno_zhucarl_baldwin: i think there is another bug need l3 experts review  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/152505915:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1525059 in neutron "Add support for external vxlan encapsulation to neutron router" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to steve (ruansx)15:08
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juno_zhusteve is working on this recently, he has submit the design15:08
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carl_baldwinjuno_zhu: I'll take a look at it.15:09
steve_ruan@carl_baldwin, thanks15:09
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tidwellrsounds like we're making progress on some of these15:10
jschwarz_I also have a bug to discuss15:10
jschwarz_https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1499647 is about some race conditions in the L3 HA scheduling15:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1499647 in neutron "test_ha_router fails intermittently" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz)15:10
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jschwarz_it has several patches up for review on this subject, specifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257059/23 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284400/115:11
jschwarz_the first one is ready for reviews (it is a series of patches) and the second one will be in a matter of a few days15:11
carl_baldwinjschwarz_: ack15:11
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carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: There will be just a couple of weeks after M-3 for bug fixes.  Let me know if you or pavel_bondar need anything.15:12
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tidwellrany other bugs to discuss?15:13
johnbelamariccarl_baldwin: thanks, will do. we will meet later today and look at the other things on pavel_bondar's plate and try to make space15:13
carl_baldwinjohnbelamaric: great15:13
carl_baldwintidwellr: Not from me.15:13
johnbelamaricby the way, i'd like to introduce Ram - rjanakiraman - who is working with pavel_bondar and I - he is the (very technical) dev manager for our OpenStack team15:13
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rjanakiramanHi,15:14
tidwellrwelcome15:14
vikram_welcome15:14
mlavallewelcome rjanakiraman15:14
johnbelamaricso he will ultimately decide on pavel_bondar's time (no pressure :-P )15:14
tidwellr:)15:14
rjanakiramanI work with John Belamaric and Pavel Bondar15:14
rjanakiramanand thanks for the welcome15:14
carl_baldwinrjanakiraman: good to meet you15:14
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rjanakiramancarl_baldwin: good to meet you too15:15
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tidwellr#topic Routed Networks15:15
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tidwellrcarl_baldwin: are we taking this off the agenda now that the focused routed networks meetings are starting?15:16
carl_baldwinI'll just give a short report15:16
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tidwellrsure, I know I'd appreciate that15:16
carl_baldwinThings are going well here at the mid-cycle.  I'm hoping the spec will be officially blessed.15:16
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carl_baldwinI put up a code patch starting to add API for segments.  I'll be putting up more patches.15:17
juno_zhu_pls take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1525059, the target is m-215:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1525059 in neutron "Add support for external vxlan encapsulation to neutron router" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to steve (ruansx)15:17
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/routed-networks15:17
carl_baldwintidwellr: That's all from me.  Back to you.15:17
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tidwellrcarl_baldwin: thanks, I assume the routed networks meetings have started?15:18
carl_baldwintidwellr: Yes, but I'm ashamed to admit I messed up the time on Tuesday.15:18
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carl_baldwintidwellr: It will happen next Tuesday according to the published scheduled.15:19
carl_baldwin#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Routed_Networks_Meeting15:19
tidwellrcarl_baldwin: thanks for the link15:19
tidwellr#topic BGP Dynamic Routing15:20
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tidwellrvikram_: ping15:20
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vikram_tidwellr: driver and cli patch is up for the merge15:20
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tidwellrvikram_: I saw that15:21
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vikram_tidwellr: Sorry for not giving more time on this.. thanks for your help15:21
tidwellrthis is getting really close to being buttoned up15:21
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vikram_tidwellr: Yes.. after these patches i think we have 2 more to go15:22
tidwellrwe did stumble into some interesting issues with the L3 agent this week that make things interesting when DVR is involved15:22
tidwellr#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283757/15:23
tidwellrafter tlaking with Swami, this is one patch we may need if we want directly routable IPv4 subnets when DVR is involved15:23
vikram_tidewellr: ok..15:24
tidwellrwe may not get this merged, and what he has posted is more for illustration purposes15:24
tidwellrif this does not merge it does simplify what we have to put together in terms of DVR support15:24
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tidwellrthere are some Newton RFE's falling out of this final push and I'll capture them once we're wrappe dup15:26
tidwellrvikram_: anything to add?15:26
vikram_tidwellr: I have also posted couple of rfe-bugs15:26
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vikram_tidwellr: I believe in Newton we will be developing it in a separate repo ?15:26
tidwellrI do believe we'll be exploring that15:27
vikram_tidwellr: ok.. nothing else from my end15:27
tidwellr#topic DNS15:27
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mlavallehi15:28
tidwellrmlavalle: how's it going?15:28
mlavalleI have continued working on the DNS integration chapter for the Networking Guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280957/15:28
mlavalleI have responded to a bunch of reviews and I think it should merge soon15:28
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mlavalleI also added support for DNS integration to the Neutron client: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282588/15:29
mlavalleI think that patchset is good to me merged15:29
mlavalleand beyond that, I think this project is done15:30
tidwellrexcellent15:30
mlavalleThere is some technical debt left that I will take care of over the next couple of weeks15:30
mlavalleand that's it15:30
tidwellrcool, anything you need?15:30
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mlavallenope, thanks for asking though :-)15:30
tidwellralright then, breezing through the agenda today15:31
mlavallewe are !15:31
tidwellr#topic Address Scopes15:31
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carl_baldwinHi.15:31
carl_baldwinI don't think I have anything for this.15:32
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tidwellrIf I remember right this should all be buttoned up, right?15:32
tidwellrI'll take it off the agenda15:32
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carl_baldwinThere are a few patches we're getting wrapped up.  And I need to finish the docs.15:32
carl_baldwinThat's all.15:32
tidwellrgreat15:32
tidwellr#topic Open Discussion15:32
carl_baldwinDon't think we need anything from anyone now.15:32
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tidwellrdoes anyone want to discuss anything we have not already talked about?15:34
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tidwellrgoing once......15:35
pavel_bondarJust in case any free reviewers available, please take a look at migration to IPAM #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277767/15:35
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vikram_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205756/ needs a +215:35
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: ack15:36
carl_baldwinvikram_: ack15:36
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: thanks!15:36
vikram_carl_baldwin: thanks ;)15:36
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carl_baldwinvikram_: How about the Jenkins failure on that one?15:37
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vikram_carl_baldwin: It's un-related..15:37
vikram_carl_baldwin: I have given a recheck15:37
carl_baldwinokay15:38
tidwellrcarl_baldwin: I was going to point you at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216994/ but i stumbled across a couple issues that need to be addressed, so maybe tomorrow ;)15:39
carl_baldwintidwellr: okay.15:39
tidwellranything else?15:40
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vikram_i think we saved 20 mins ;)15:40
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mlavalleyaay!15:41
carl_baldwintidwellr: Thanks!15:41
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tidwellr#endmeeting15:41
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mlavallebye15:41
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elmiko #startmeeting api wg16:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 16:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'api_wg'16:00
elmiko#chair cdent16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: cdent elmiko16:00
elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda16:00
elmikomaybe give a few minutes for folks to arrive16:00
stevelleo/16:01
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elmiko#topic previous meeting action items16:01
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elmiko#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-01-28-16.00.html16:02
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elmikohmm, that's an old meeting16:02
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elmikoi *think* we got all those items though16:02
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cdentyeah, thus the confusion about the accuracy of the agenda16:03
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elmiko#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-02-11-16.00.txt16:03
elmikothat's the right one16:03
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cdent#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-02-11-16.00.html16:03
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elmikoi think sdake took care of his16:04
cdentone of the action items there, sdague's, was done, but then because of my action item, there's been some discussion of changing things more16:04
elmikoer sdague, not sdake (sorry)16:04
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elmikoyea16:04
cdent#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280381/16:04
cdent#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/087086.html16:05
elmikoseems like aside from jaypipes' issue, folks are accepting that review16:05
elmikoloved the title on that email lol16:06
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elmikoand i think it gives us a good segue to16:06
elmiko#topic service type vs. project name for use in headers16:06
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elmiko#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/085145.html16:07
elmiko#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2016/tc.2016-02-02-20.01.log.html#l-26316:07
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elmikois there anymore to discuss here, i thought we had decided to support service type?16:07
cdentI think we decide it would be service type and thus the service registry was born16:07
elmikok16:07
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elmiko#info api-wg has agreed that service type is the preferred usage16:08
elmikoand great setup cdent16:08
elmiko#topic taking on the service type registry16:08
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elmikoso...16:08
cdentsdague has laid the groundwork for that with a repo and getting tc stuff in place16:08
elmikoyea, saw that review16:09
cdentbut efforts to get some basic starting points into the repo have stalled because of other work16:09
elmikodo we need to generate a cross-project spec to define the effort?16:09
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elmikoi haven't followed along with what we are going to put in that repo16:09
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cdentI think we've already made it past the need for cross-project spec, by fiat16:09
elmikois it just a text file with a list and folks make reviews against it when they want on the list?16:10
elmikok16:10
cdentthere are some etherpads where experimentation is happening16:10
* cdent looks for them16:10
cdent#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/service-registry-format16:10
elmikothanks, i feel like i totally missed whereever this was posted16:10
elmikoi saw sdague's original review16:11
cdentI think the discussion for this happened in the service catalog ng meeting16:11
cdentthere's a bit of overlap with that16:11
elmikoah, yea.16:11
elmikoi should probably add that to my calendar16:11
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elmikoi can't seem to find the link to the new repo, do you have it cdent ?16:12
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cdent#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/service-types-authority/tree/16:13
elmikoawesome, cdent++16:13
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elmikoso, i guess once the format is solidified will the service catalog folks be adding reviews or should we start with all the defcore services?16:14
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elmikoor really, all the governance services16:14
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cdentI think the idea was to start with all the stuff that is not contentious16:15
elmikoright, that makes sense16:15
cdentwhich some small segment of "we" ought to be able to figure out16:15
cdentdefcore seems a reasonable starting point16:15
elmikocool16:15
elmikoi don't mind helping (assuming we agree on the format from that etherpad)16:15
elmikodo you know if that format is where we are starting?16:17
cdentI think you're core in the group16:17
cdentthe format is still being figured out, but I think it is on you and me to resolve what it should be16:17
elmikooh wow, ok16:17
cdentthe debate was pretty much around how much information do we really need16:17
elmikoyea, i would think we don't need that much. we just want a mapping from service type to project name right?16:18
elmiko(the links are nice too though)16:18
cdentand how multiple projects on the same service type are to be represented16:18
elmikothat's a great question16:18
cdentit's easy enough to have a list under service-type16:19
elmikoso, there needs to be some standard form for extending the service-type for additional info?16:19
elmikoalthough, this may be an area for the suggestion you had brought up before16:19
elmikowhat if we have a header like16:19
cdentthe hope was that we could do some easy yaml16:19
elmikoOpenStack-SomeService-Foo: Project_A Bar16:19
elmikoOpenStack-SomeService-Foo: Project_B Bar16:19
cdentgiven the consistency goals I think we'd never want that16:20
elmikoi agree, yaml is nice for the format16:20
elmikook, too bad16:20
cdentIf you are supporting a service then you are supporting the api of that service16:20
cdentso idealy both project and project b would use (the modern version:16:20
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cdentOpenStack-Foo:16:21
elmikohmm16:21
cdent(with service on the right hand side if it is needed,)16:21
elmikooh right, i didn't realize that proposal gained traction16:21
elmikoso we won't have, for example, OpenStack-Compute-Foo ?16:21
cdentit's not clear if it has gained traction or not, the mailing list thread above some people kind of liked it16:22
cdent#action: cdent to clarify if people really want to consider it16:23
* sdague sneaks in as kiddo is asleep 16:23
elmikowelcome sdague16:23
sdaguehow about we be pragmatic on it16:23
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cdent#undo16:23
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sdague3 projects currently have microversions16:23
cdent#action: cdent to clarify if people want the radical change to microversion headers16:23
sdaguecan we get those 3 on board?16:24
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sdagueif yes, go16:24
elmikogreat question16:24
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elmikoso, just to restate, the idea here is that we would move to OpenStack-API-Version: Compute x.y.z   (for example)16:24
sdagueyep16:24
elmikocool, i'm down with that. if the projects are on board16:25
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sdagueand I'm actually pro that, and think can represent the nova position.16:25
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elmikocdent: are you going to check with the projects then?16:25
elmikosdague: cool, thanks!16:25
sdagueso get an ironic and manilla rep to ack16:25
cdentelmiko: yes16:25
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sdaguethen we do it16:25
elmikoawesome16:25
sdagueso cdent's action is to get a position from ironic and manilla projects16:26
elmikoso, we will need a header guidelines update to reflect these changes if everyone is onboard16:26
elmikosdague: yes16:26
sdagueelmiko: yeh16:26
cdent#action cdent get a position from ironic and manilla projects on modernization of microversion headers16:26
elmikook, and then i guess we'll revisit this at the next meeting16:26
elmiko(which sadly, i won't be able to attend)16:26
sdaguecdent: and I think the only thing to consider is what to do for non registered service types16:26
elmikogood point16:27
cdentsdague: as long as they are using the standard header on the left hand side it really doesn't matter what they do on the right16:27
sdaguebecause I'm going to assume we will require service type registration for the token on the rhs16:27
cdentthat's kind of the point16:27
sdaguecdent: oh, right, I suppose so16:27
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elmikoit might be nice to have some sort of readme in the service-types-authority that can speak to the non-registered types?16:27
sdaguenever mind, solves a bunch of other things in the process16:27
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cdentservices with types obviously _should_ use their type16:28
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cdentbut other things can use "my mom" if they want to16:28
sdagueelmiko: agreed, it's on my list. But right now I'm trying to stay bug focussed until the nova RC process begins16:28
elmikoqotd material right there cdent16:28
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sdagueI am totally building a rest service that uses that16:28
elmikosdague: ack, totally fair and i don't want to derail you16:28
elmikohahah!16:28
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* cdent has disgraced his own mother16:29
cdentthe shame!16:29
elmikounforced error16:29
cdentSo, I have a topic related to this one that I mentioned to elmiko a couple days ago16:29
cdentwhich is things on the right hand side that use redudant info16:29
cdentthe example is: x-openstack-request-id: req-<uuid>16:30
cdentreq is redundant16:30
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elmiko#topic header values16:30
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elmikocdent: but, to your previous point about using whatever on the right hand side. do we need to advise a guideline here?16:31
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cdentI'm not sure, that's why I ask.16:31
cdentIt may be just that I don't like this specific case16:32
elmikoactually, now that i think about this again. it would be nice to at least give some suggestions about reducing redundant info16:32
cdentbecause I'm really annoyed by things which contain uuids but have prefixes or suffixes, thus making them no longer _truly_ uuids16:32
elmikowe don't have to say *NEVER DO THIS*, but we could expand the idea16:32
elmikoright16:32
elmikoi'd be ok with a guideline giving best practices for header right side values16:33
cdentI'll go ahead and do that one since I seem to be in the mood16:33
cdent#action cdent  guideline giving best practices for header right side values16:33
elmikoawesome, thanks cdent !16:33
elmiko#topic the trouble with names16:34
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elmikowas this yours sdague ?16:34
elmikoand did we cover it already16:34
cdenti think we've done it already. it's headers and service type authority16:34
elmikoyea16:34
elmikopopular topic ;)16:34
cdentwe should probalby talk about cache invalidation, since that's the other main problem everywhere all the time16:35
elmiko#topic cache invalidation16:35
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elmikogo for it16:35
cdentIt' was a joke16:35
elmiko<whooosh>16:35
* elmiko looks up too late16:35
elmiko#topic Glance-Glare (Artifacts)16:36
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nikhilo/16:36
elmikohey16:36
elmikowas just about to ping =)16:36
mfedosino/16:36
elmikothe floor is yours16:36
nikhilWe've a spec up for this new API proposal16:36
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136/16:36
mfedosinhi folks16:36
nikhilhey Mike16:36
nikhilso, mfedosin is leading the spec16:37
mfedosinif it's tl;dr just skip to rest api impact16:37
elmikothat is a thorough spec, well done16:37
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nikhilThe use cases are pretty elaborate! thanks to mfedosin and team16:38
nikhilthere were a couple of specific ones16:38
mfedosinour main goal was to keep Glare compatible with Glance v216:38
cdentIs it possible to get an artifact by id without knowing its type?16:38
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mfedosincdent no16:39
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cdentis that by design16:39
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mfedosinit may happen that different artifacts may have the same id16:39
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mfedosinbecause they are stored in different db16:39
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elmikofor me, the actions section stands out as something we advise against16:39
mfedosin(Glance v1 allows manually set image id)16:40
elmikowhy not just PATCH /v1/artifacts/{artifact_type}/{artifacts_id} with the requested state?16:40
nikhil:)16:40
nikhildeja vu16:41
elmikohaha16:41
mfedosinto keep compatibility with Glance v2 first16:41
nikhilelmiko: it's the activate and deactive stuff from glance v2 API16:41
mfedosinhttp://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-image-v2.html16:41
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elmikook16:41
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mfedosinelmiko: I don't like it neither :)16:42
elmikoother than that, the rest impact section looks pretty good to me16:42
nikhilmfedosin: I think we wanted to ask about the PUT vs DELETE for blobs correct?16:42
cdentI'm going to have to look at it more closely than now really allows, but I will asap16:42
mfedosinnikhil: it's better to use PATCH16:43
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mfedosinbecause we modify blob property16:43
nikhilhmm16:43
mfedosinelmico cdent thanks folks. we're waiting your comments there16:43
elmikocool, thanks for bringing this up16:44
cdentIt looks extremely detailed, which is great to see16:44
elmikomfedosin: are you saying that deleting a blob is done through a PATCH?16:44
elmikocdent: +116:44
nikhilelmiko:  yeah16:44
nikhilline 110116:44
cdentbrb16:44
elmikoyea, that's what i'm looking at16:45
nikhilcool16:45
mfedosinwe delete blob property from artifact16:45
elmikoi would think you would want to support DELETE /v1/artifacts/{artifact_type}/{artifacts_id}/blobs/{blob_name}16:45
elmikointeresting...16:45
nikhil:)16:45
elmikomfedosin: but wouldn't that be a PATCH to the artifact not the blob?16:45
mfedosinI thought about it, but wanted to hear your opinion on that matter16:46
nikhilthat's the catch16:46
nikhilwould we want to support both?16:46
elmikohmm, i was just thinking that16:46
mfedosinelmiko: ah, I see what you mean16:46
elmikoi would think that for deleting a resource, the DELETE method should be the main way to do it16:46
mfedosinso we need right API to remove blob from artifact while it's queued16:47
mfedosinelmiko: got it16:47
elmikoand if the user requests a blob delete through a PATCH to the artifact it should return a 4xx16:47
elmikoi'm curious if cdent agrees16:47
elmikomy reasoning is that removing a resource should always be an explicit action16:47
nikhiloh16:48
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mfedosinit makes sense16:48
nikhilelmiko: so the issue being the resource is being referenced as a property16:48
mfedosinso - if we PATCH with remove, than return 40016:48
elmikonow granted, i don't know the technical limitations behind these choices. so, grain of salt16:48
nikhilelmiko: what this would mean is:16:49
nikhil1. DELETE the blob resource16:49
cdentI'm back,16:49
* cdent thinks16:49
nikhil2. Update the artifact that contains it16:49
elmikook, so 2 issues for me16:49
nikhilso it would be a two step delete with two separate actions16:49
elmikoyea, that seems weird16:50
* nikhil listens16:50
cdentsigh, I closed that tab and now gerrit is throwing 50316:50
elmiko1. are the blob and the artifact 2 separate resources?16:50
mfedosinelmico yes16:50
elmiko2. if they are, then PATCHing the artifact is ok without deleting the blob16:50
mfedosintwo instances I mean16:50
elmikolike, would i ever remove the blob property from the artifact and leave the blob around?16:50
nikhilumm16:51
mfedosinblob will have status 'deleted' after that16:51
elmikoare they actually 2 separate, independent resources, or are they tied together16:51
elmiko?16:51
nikhilI think there may be a case when it has a dependency?16:51
elmikoif they are dependent, i would lean towards a DELETE on the blob, and the server would automatically update the artifact property16:52
cdentBy having a URL that is /v1/artifacts/{artifact_type}/{artifacts_id}/blobs/{blob_name} then the implciation is that the way to delete that thing is to DELETE it16:52
nikhilelmiko: so blob is designed this way as it is much much bigger in size compare to other artifacts properties (MB< GB etc)16:52
mfedosinblob property in artifact is just a link to blob instance in db16:52
mfedosinforeign key16:52
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mfedosinso we can replace it16:53
elmikook, so blobs can act independently of artifacts then?16:53
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nikhilelmiko: essentially at the core of the artifacts design, it's just another property. but how can we separate it is still open question..16:53
elmikoah, gotcha. thanks nikhil16:53
elmikoi still lean towards DELETE as the main way to remove a blob16:53
stevelle+1 for DELETE as the main way, single operation16:54
elmiko(also, 5 min left)16:54
mfedosinwill be updated16:54
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elmikocool16:54
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nikhilplease share your thoughts on the spec! :)16:54
elmikothanks again nikhil and mfedosin for bringing this up =)16:54
cdentwe should quickly decide if any current guidelines are ready for freeze16:54
elmikowill do16:54
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elmikogood point16:54
nikhilthanks in advance16:54
nikhilelmiko: :)16:55
elmiko#topic guidelines for freeze16:55
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elmikocdent: did you have some in mind?16:55
elmikoi guess these two are getting close16:55
cdentthe only two recent ones that are currently +1 are two of the microversion things from alex_xu16:55
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243429/16:55
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243414/16:56
elmikoi'll put em up if we think they are good16:56
cdentyeah, those, but I'm not entirely sure16:56
elmiko(seems like the reviews say they are)16:56
cdentmay as well then16:56
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cdentoh wait16:56
elmikoshould we take one more pass given the recent ideas about headers?16:56
cdentyes, exactly16:56
elmikook, let's table these until next meeting then16:56
cdenti'll do my actions on that first16:56
elmikomakes sense16:57
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elmikoand thanks =)16:57
elmikoi still need to revisit the actions guideline, not sure how to bring that into alignment16:57
elmikoand i'd like to start a links guideline16:57
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elmikook, another other business for the last minute?16:58
elmikoer any other...16:58
elmikoman... only noon and i can't type already16:58
elmikogoing once16:59
elmikotwice16:59
elmiko...16:59
elmikosold!16:59
elmikothanks everyone!16:59
elmiko#endmeeting16:59
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docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 17:00:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog'17:00
kfox1111o/17:00
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kzaitsev_mbo/17:01
docaedohello kfox1111!17:01
docaedoand kzaitsev_mb :)17:01
kfox1111hey.17:01
docaedocourtesy ping markvan17:01
* docaedo can't find he usual courtesy-ping list all of a sudden:/17:01
markvanyo17:02
docaedohey hey17:02
docaedo#topic Status updates17:02
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docaedoLet's start with kzaitsev_mb today? Any notable updates on the glare work?17:02
kzaitsev_mbdocaedo: well, I've setup a staging server on Mirantis cloud VM, seems to work fine for me, but17:03
kzaitsev_mbbut I still do not have a public IP to share with you guys17:03
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kzaitsev_mbI've been promised to have it this week though, so I'm going to ping the guys in charge for it17:04
docaedoGreat thanks :)17:04
kzaitsev_mbThe script for importing assets from v1 is also almost ready (I think it only lacks a couple of fields)17:04
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kzaitsev_mbddovbii promised to update it by tomorrow evening17:05
docaedoI'm hoping next week to take a much closer look at the required fields and such, and give more useful feedback17:05
docaedobut I did at least have a good experience in my own test environment17:05
kzaitsev_mbso I hope, that I'll be able to share you an IP to the server, that serves both v1 and v2 (or at least something we can call v2 +))17:05
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kzaitsev_mbmy next step would be to add patches, that would make UI (both dashboard and site) fetch data from glare17:07
docaedoNice - we'll have time for more debate/discussion (maybe topic for next week?) but I want to make sure we're clear on the transition, especially minimal requirements for switching to v217:07
docaedofor that, for v1, it should be transparent, no changes required to anything other than what serves the v1 endpoint17:08
docaedofor v2 it would I think need to include authentication, and that's where things start to get markedly different (and at that point we can drop assets.yaml for adding new assets)17:08
kfox1111kzaitsev_mb: for now, probably should just switch the pythong v1 api to pull from glare.17:08
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kfox1111then no changes to the ui/plugin are needed.17:09
kfox1111we still need to merge the code for the website and plugin, and I just haven't had time to finish that work. it will be much easer at that point to point the code at v2 since it will be common to all.17:09
docaedoI'll add "glare transition review" as the topic for next week so we can plan to have enough time for the conversation17:10
kfox1111I'm hoping mid March my time will free up. I have a major deliverable finished at that point.17:10
docaedo#action add "glare transition review" to next weeks agenda17:10
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kzaitsev_mbkfox1111: sounds fair. I'll keep you guys updated on any work I do and would ping around as soon as I have something to review/something to play with17:11
docaedoin short though, thanks a ton kzaitsev_mb (and ativelkov) for getting glare to a point where we can poke and play with it :)17:11
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kfox1111+117:11
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docaedomarkvan: do you have any updates on the work to add integration tests?17:12
docaedo(and any calls to action/help from any of us too of course!)17:12
markvanhi, I have the basic testing patches done https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276438/  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276440/17:12
markvanI have done testing with devstack locally and I think these are ready to go in now.  Then we can build out other tests from there.17:13
kfox1111nice. :)17:13
markvanSince there's a bunch of python code, I also created patches for adding linting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283201/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283202/17:14
docaedothat's awesome, thanks a ton!17:14
markvanjust contains python updates as their are quite a few js updates to...made that non-voting for now17:14
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kzaitsev_mbmarkvan: does it install latest horizon?17:15
kzaitsev_mbmarkvan: oh yes, I see it's in test-requirements17:15
markvanyes, it just a full devstack from master with horizon and catalog plugin17:15
markvanoh, you meant the horizon source, yup, still tied to that.17:16
markvanI have started on the next testcases for images and templates, to test a basic flow17:17
markvanAnd I'm also working on my templates for LBaaSv2 which is about to land in heat (hopefully)17:18
kzaitsev_mbwe can probably later add a murano-integration gate, that would also install murano through devstack plugin. and have similar tests for import =)17:18
docaedomarkvan: if I start a blueprint, would you mind adding your planned steps in work items?17:18
kfox1111nice. :)17:18
* docaedo tries to keep things looking official now and then ;)17:19
markvankzaitsev_mb: yup, that would be fairly easy after this intitial patch17:19
markvandocaedo: no17:19
markvandocaedo: np17:19
markvan:)17:19
docaedohaha17:19
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docaedo#action docaedo to create "add tests" blueprint for markvan's many work items17:19
docaedoAny other status updates? kfox1111 how's your cloud coming?17:20
kfox1111got a round of switching out nics coming soon. bad silicon. :/17:20
docaedough!17:20
kfox1111but there is light at the end of the tunnel.17:20
docaedothat's good to hear at least17:21
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kfox1111then the next step I want to do is swithc the horizon plugin to app-catalog-common.17:22
docaedomoving on then17:22
docaedo#topic Space considerations for Austin summit (docaedo)17:22
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kfox1111then finish up the website ui work to do app-catalog-common too.17:22
kfox1111then it should be easy to add new types. will only have to do it in app-catalog-common.17:22
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docaedokfox1111: ah yes - that'll be great .. I guess I should have added on the previous topic, next week I'm going to poke at updating the "recently added" section to actually use the dates that are now tied to assets17:23
kfox1111nice. :)17:23
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kfox1111we may need a default icon for things without icons for that task.17:24
docaedokfox1111: agreed, will find something "openstack" that works for generic case17:25
docaedo#action docaedo to remember to get some generic icon for assets that don't include their own17:25
docaedoSo the foundation is working on planning for Austin summit17:25
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docaedoEvery project gets a few of three different types of rooms/space:17:26
docaedo* Fishbowl slots (Wed-Thu)17:26
docaedoOur traditional largish rooms organized in fishbowl style, with advertised session content on the summit schedule for increased external participation. Ideal for when wider feedback is essential.17:26
docaedo* Workroom slots (Tue-Thu)17:26
docaedoSmaller rooms organized in boardroom style, with topic buried in the session description, in an effort to limit attendance and not overcrowd the room. Ideal to get work done and prioritize work in small teams.17:26
docaedo* Contributors meetup (Fri)17:26
docaedoHalf-day session(s) on the Friday to get into the Newton action while decisions and plans are still hot, or to finish discussions started during the week, whatever works for you.17:26
docaedoIn Tokyo we had one fishbowl and one workroom slot17:26
docaedoIn Austin I would propose we request a fishbowl again, and two workroom slots.17:27
docaedoI don't think we're big enough to need a contributors meetup, not to mention most of our concerns are cross-project anyway, so we're more likely to be in other sessions quite a lot17:27
docaedoThoughts?17:27
kfox1111sounds good to me.17:28
markvan+117:28
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kzaitsev_mbWould we have enough topics to discuss for 1fb + 2wr? =)17:28
kzaitsev_mbor should we ask for more to get less (=17:29
docaedoI think two work rooms would be good considering we'll have some pure API-related stuff, plus the horizon/ui stuff17:29
docaedoI'll break it up more clearly, but I can certainly see two hours worth of topics, ideally bringing in more people than the usual (which is the four of us :) )17:30
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kfox1111it would be good to discuss with the horizon folks some things for sure.17:31
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docaedokzaitsev_mb: as for asking for more, we'll get this as it's a fairly minimal request, and I think what we're trying to accomplish is still pretty dear to the hearts of the foundation and TC :)17:31
docaedokfox1111: yes, we'll have to make sure we're finding time to work with horizon people too17:32
docaedowhich maybe means for a topic like that, it gets shared between us and them17:32
kzaitsev_mbsounds fair, 1 big room for more people/announcements/etc, 2 small rooms for more on-topic discussions.17:33
docaedokzaitsev_mb: that's exactly it17:33
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kzaitsev_mbnow I remember that I felt, that I needed 1 more Workroom slots back in Tokio17:33
docaedohaha yep - though when I remember tokyo, I just remember feeling like I was half a step behind for a whole week :/  Austin is going to be a whole lot better17:34
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docaedoOK moving on :)17:35
docaedo#topic Open discussion17:35
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docaedoI don't have any topics for open discussion this week, but I'll yield the floor to anyone else17:35
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markvannothing from me17:36
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docaedokfox1111 or kzaitsev_mb ?17:38
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kzaitsev_mbdon't think I have anything17:39
kfox1111nothing new here.17:39
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docaedoalrighty then!  thanks so much for coming to the meeting, and as always, thanks a ton for all the work you're doing - talk to you later on!17:40
docaedo#endmeeting17:40
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SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: hi18:00
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: hi18:03
hemanthravihi18:03
SumitNaiksatamwaiting for rkukura to join18:03
hemanthraviSumitNaiksatam, need to sign off around 10:3018:03
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: np18:03
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SumitNaiksatamivar-lazzaro: hi18:03
SumitNaiksatamlets get started18:04
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:04
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 18:04:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy'18:04
SumitNaiksatam#info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Feb_26th.2C_18th.2C_11th.2C_4th.2C_201618:04
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ivar-lazzarohi18:04
SumitNaiksatamno new critical bugs18:04
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: ;-)18:04
SumitNaiksatamanyone else in the team stumble across any critical bugs?18:05
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SumitNaiksatamwe have one pending fairly high priority one:18:05
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SumitNaiksatam#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+bug/154956118:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1549561 in Group Based Policy "Disallow identical external routes on external segments" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Amit Bose (bose)18:06
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SumitNaiksatamamit has a patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284496/18:06
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: hi18:06
rkukurahi - sorry I’m late18:06
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SumitNaiksatamsince hemanthravi wanted to leave early, lets start with the design spec discussion first18:07
SumitNaiksatam#topic Design Specs18:07
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SumitNaiksatamNetwork Function Plugin Framework for GBP #link https://review.openstack.org/23974318:07
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: i dont see update in the spec yet18:07
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hemanthraviSumitNaiksatam, i'll do it over the next couple of days, need to sync up with the team18:08
SumitNaiksatamthis implementation patch was posted by ahmed: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28229218:08
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: ok18:08
hemanthravithey are busy getting some patches in18:08
SumitNaiksatamregarding the impl patch18:08
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: sure18:08
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SumitNaiksatamfirstly, we would need a devref document to make it clear as to what in being attemped in the patch18:09
SumitNaiksatam(beyond the summary in the commit message)18:09
hemanthravithere will be one change in moving the config APIs handling to the process on the Network Function Manger18:09
hemanthravias opposed to the Agent on the network node18:09
igordcard_hi all18:09
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay, we can review once you update the spec18:09
SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: hi18:09
hemanthraviSumitNaiksatam, ok18:09
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: i think the team would need to know the context for #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28229218:09
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: it will be easier to understand this with the dependent patches18:10
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: that would tell us how the framework is being used18:10
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hemanthraviSumitNaiksatam, will adding the devref patch explaing this help18:10
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: there were also questions about how the applicability of this framework beyond just what you are trying to achieve18:11
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: yes devref patch will definitely help18:11
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: but ususally we dont merge a framework component unless there is already a patch which is also using it18:11
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hemanthraviSumitNaiksatam, ahmed/magesh will be adding those patches...18:12
SumitNaiksatami believe rkukura  also had questions on whether what is being attempted is, to any extent, already available in oslo (or, oslo also working on it)?18:12
hemanthravibroke it up so that it's easier to review18:12
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: great, so it would be good to post those patches in whatever state they are in, so that team gets a better context (mark them WIP)18:12
hemanthravii'm not aware of something in oslo that we can use instead18:13
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay18:13
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: is this framework completely home grown?18:14
tbachmanWould there be any other libraries that might have something similar?18:14
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: apart from using multiprocessor18:14
hemanthravimultiprocessing is the python framework..18:15
tbachmanAnd are there unique characteristics about this framework that are specific to this project18:15
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: kind of what i was wondering as well18:15
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hemanthraviotherwise it consists of a listener to interface with othe components...and worker processes impl the required funcionality18:15
hemanthraviand queues binding them together18:15
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hemanthravimultiprocessing and queues are from the python multiporcessin18:16
hemanthravig mdoules18:16
tbachmanAlso — if this is needed, does this belong in GBP? In other words, is this a service that many openstack projects would want to leverage?18:17
hemanthraviadding this in GBP to provide the rendering backend for the service-chain18:18
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* tbachman should spend some time looking at this patch :)18:19
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hemanthraviwe could look at making this independent going forward18:19
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay18:20
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: in which part of the NFP architecture is this framework being used?18:22
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: in other words, what does the “listener” and what does the “worker” map to?18:23
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hemanthravilistener is the interface to listen to RPC from other components in case of network function manger18:24
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hemanthravior configuration messages in case of configurator18:24
hemanthraviserves an interface to external components18:24
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay, what about the “workers”?18:24
hemanthraviand distributes to event-queues which are handled by workers18:24
hemanthravithe functionality is being implemented in the context of the workers18:25
hemanthraviin effect listener is a distributor18:25
hemanthraviworkers can scale based on perf requirement18:25
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hemanthravinumber of workers is configurable18:26
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay, but what do these “workers” map to in the diagram shown in the spec18:26
SumitNaiksatam?18:26
hemanthravithe same model is used both for the network function manager and the configurator18:27
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay18:27
hemanthravithe process model is the same, configurator running in the service tenant talks to the service vms18:28
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay18:28
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hemanthravinetwork function manager is responsible for bringing up/down the service vms and the manaing the state changes18:29
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hemanthraviconfigurator is stateless and responds to messages from the network function manger18:29
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hemanthraviproviding a path to the service vms to configure and monitor18:30
hemanthraviprocess model is the same for both the modules, the functionality is distinct18:30
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay18:30
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: you mentioned you had to leave18:32
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: there are still some more questions, so we can follow up offline later today?18:32
hemanthraviyes, will update the spec18:33
hemanthraviyes,18:33
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: okay i will try to reach you in about 30 mins, thanks for the update!18:33
hemanthraviok18:33
hemanthravibye18:33
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SumitNaiksatamInitial support for Quality of Service #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275358/18:34
SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: hi18:34
igordcard_SumitNaiksatam: hi18:34
SumitNaiksatami didnt get a chance to follow up since last week18:34
igordcard_I have gone back to my PoC work and am working the network service policy possibility18:35
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SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: okay18:35
igordcard_when I have something with NSP I will post that PoC, so we at least have some basic, working, neutron-backed QoS to try18:35
SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: okay, great18:35
SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: can you document that you are choosing this approach in the spec?18:36
igordcard_but if it's completely irrelevant I can focus on some other possibility, like the one QoS action for PRSs18:36
igordcard_SumitNaiksatam: okay18:36
SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: we can potentially try to close on this particular spec based on that choice18:36
SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: if you can do a short update to the spec, i can try to make a soft committment on behalf of the team that we will try to close on this spec by the next meeting?18:38
igordcard_SumitNaiksatam: when you mean a close on this spec is it to approve it or?18:38
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SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: yeah hopefully, or at least give you feedback if a different direction needs to be taken18:40
igordcard_SumitNaiksatam: yes I will update the spec describing the route taken for now, as PoC18:41
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SumitNaiksatamigordcard_: great, thanks18:41
igordcard_alright18:41
SumitNaiksatam#topic Mitaka sync patches18:42
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NobodyCamUsing username "nobodycam".18:42
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:mitaka-sync18:43
SumitNaiksatami have posted all the patches18:43
SumitNaiksatami will shortly post a new patchset to address rkukura’s comments18:43
SumitNaiksatami am happy to answer any questions on those patches here18:44
SumitNaiksatamok18:45
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:46
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SumitNaiksatamalright nothing else18:48
SumitNaiksatamso lets close for today18:48
SumitNaiksatamthanks all for your time!18:48
SumitNaiksatamc ya next week, bye!18:48
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thanks for running it!18:48
rkukurathanks SumitNaiksatam!18:48
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:48
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DevonBoatwright_#startmeeting ops_guide21:30
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 21:30:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is DevonBoatwright_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:30
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)"21:30
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ops_guide'21:30
DevonBoatwright_It worked! ok21:30
njohnstono/21:31
DevonBoatwright_Hello. I'm still learning this. Please bear with me.21:31
DevonBoatwright_Should I do a roll call?21:31
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DevonBoatwright_Is it just you and I njohnston?21:34
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njohnstonI don't know...21:35
njohnstonJust start with the agenda and folks will chime in21:35
njohnstonor not :-)21:35
DevonBoatwright_ok.. lol. That sounds like a good idea21:35
* sc68cal lurks21:35
DevonBoatwright_#topic action items from the previous meeting21:37
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DevonBoatwright_Did I do that correctly?21:37
DevonBoatwright_Oh.. hm.21:37
sc68calyup21:38
darrenchi21:38
DevonBoatwright_Hi darrenc..21:38
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DevonBoatwright_I am still so new, I am okay with you taking over the talking points of this meeting since you guys, I am assuming, know most of what is going on.21:39
DevonBoatwright_Shilla has spotty internet and can't get to the meeting.21:39
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darrencno worries21:40
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DevonBoatwright_:)21:41
DevonBoatwright_At least I could get the meeting started this time.21:41
darrencSorry I didnt get a chance to update the agenda21:41
DevonBoatwright_ok. Should I change the topic to something else then?21:43
darrencoh, so action items from last meeting21:43
darrencI converted the arch guide work items to bugs21:43
darrenc#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=arch-guide21:44
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darrencJust need a few ppl to confirm the bugs21:45
darrencSo the idea is that we'lll focus on them during the global bugbash21:45
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darrencalthough there's nothing stopping us from working on them now21:46
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darrencSo we've push the arch guide blueprint back to the N-release21:47
darrencpushed*21:47
darrencbut it would be nice to get as much done before the end of this release cycle21:48
darrencbecause we'll need to focus on the ops guide next21:48
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darrencso realistically I'm thinking we would have the arch guide done by halfway through the next release, and then work on the ops-guide21:49
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darrencand the next ops midcycle would be a great opportunity to gather information21:50
darrencany thoughts?21:51
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DevonBoatwright_I am still too new to really have any constructive thoughts.. I feel like I am mostly lurking and learning.21:52
darrencno worries, feel free to ping me anytime if you have any question21:52
darrencquestions*21:52
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DevonBoatwright_ok. Thanks. :)21:53
darrencnp21:54
darrencso moving on?21:55
darrenc#topic ops midcycle21:55
DevonBoatwright_next topic?21:55
DevonBoatwright_#topic ops midcycle21:56
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darrencThere will be a bunch of etherpads from the ops midcycle that we should look at21:57
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darrencto glean information for the ops guide21:57
darrenc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MAN-ops-meetup21:58
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darrencasettle attended, so I'll speak to her21:59
darrencThat's all I have22:00
DevonBoatwright_This has been a very quiet meeting22:00
darrencyeah22:01
darrencI guess one other topic is the openstack bugbash22:01
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darrencwho's attending?22:01
DevonBoatwright_#topic openstack bugbash22:01
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darrencSo who's attending?22:02
DevonBoatwright_When is it again?22:02
darrenc3link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Mitaka22:02
darrenc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack-Bug-Smash-Mitaka22:02
darrencMarch 7-9 in various locations around the world22:03
DevonBoatwright_Shilla says she probably won't be able to22:03
darrencah ok22:03
darrencI might be attending in Sydney22:04
darrencI thnk mjrichardson might be flying over as well22:04
darrencin which case, we'll work on the arch guide22:04
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darrencbut there's nothing stopping us from doing it virtually as well22:05
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darrencSo I think the action item here is finding out who can attend the bugbash22:07
darrencor participate virtually22:08
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DevonBoatwright_Agreed.22:08
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darrencok, I'll send an email to the team22:08
darrencok that's all I have22:09
DevonBoatwright_ok.. Sorry it was just you and I! LOL22:09
darrenclol22:09
DevonBoatwright_Is there anything simple to help out in this? Like copyediting or anything?22:09
DevonBoatwright_Should I talk offline to you about that/22:10
darrencWe can talk offline22:10
DevonBoatwright_okay22:10
DevonBoatwright_So I guess this meeting is ended?  I am okay to end it?22:10
darrencsure22:10
DevonBoatwright_ok. Thank you!22:11
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DevonBoatwright_#endmeeting22:11
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"22:11
openstackMeeting ended Thu Feb 25 22:11:41 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)22:11
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-02-25-21.30.html22:11
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-02-25-21.30.txt22:11
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-02-25-21.30.log.html22:11
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