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PaulMurray#startmeeting Nova Live Migration14:00
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openstackMeeting started Tue Mar  1 14:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration'14:00
eliqiaoo/14:00
PaulMurrayHi all14:00
tdurakovo/14:00
rdopierao/14:00
andrearosahi14:00
jlanouxhi14:00
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PaulMurrayagenda here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration14:01
davidgiluko/14:01
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PaulMurray#topic Priority reviews - Feature Freeze14:01
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mdbootho/14:01
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PaulMurrayAs it says, feature freeze is here14:02
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PaulMurrayand we are shepherding through a last few patches14:02
PaulMurrayThe last nova patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259319/ is 3 mins left in the gate14:03
pkoniszewskio/14:03
PaulMurrayThen we have a chain of three python-novaclient patches with +2 on14:03
PaulMurraySo we need to get +W from someone on those14:04
PaulMurrayalex_xu, johnthetubaguy ^^14:04
PaulMurrayDoes anyone have any comments on that ?14:05
eliqiaohave no, I can ping alex_xu tommorow if we don't get +W for them then..14:05
PaulMurrayWith these in an docs + CI work earlier in the cycle we will have 8 of our 9 initial items done14:06
PaulMurrayso well done everyone so far14:06
andrearosa\o/14:06
PaulMurray#topic Post Feature Freeze14:06
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PaulMurrayOnce we get past feature freeze we will need to get everything else done14:07
PaulMurrayStarting with docs changes to cover the features we added14:07
PaulMurrayAny bugs arrising out of those features14:08
PaulMurrayand any bugs in general we are working on14:08
PaulMurrayThere is a list of bugs being worked in the etherpad already, so feel free to review if you have time14:08
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PaulMurrayhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking14:08
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PaulMurrayWe haven't talked about CI for a while, is tdurakov here?14:09
tdurakovyep14:09
PaulMurrayIs there anything we need to pay attention to there ?14:09
paul-carlton1o/14:10
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tdurakovPaulMurray, hi everyone. mostly work for PoC for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-compute-compute-communication these week. For ci I'm planning to add negative case testing so we could check rolback either14:10
shaohe_feng_o/14:10
tdurakovany ideas are welcome too14:11
eliqiaotdurakov: do you have work items for negative case?14:11
eliqiaotdurakov: like an etherpad14:11
mdboothtdurakov: Where's the description of that bp?14:11
eliqiaoso every others could put their thought on it.14:11
tdurakoveliqiao, well, we discussed them on irc with sdague  and danpb afair14:11
tdurakovwill add them to etherpad14:12
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mdboothtdurakov: On the face of it, it sounds fundamentally incompatible with live migration, so I assume I've missed something :)14:12
kashyapYeah, I don't see any description of the above BP either14:12
PaulMurray#link tdurakov CI plans https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-compute-compute-communication14:13
tdurakovkashyap, mdbooth, for bp I've started with PoC instead of spec, it was discussed during mid-cycle14:13
mdboothtdurakov: Is there any description of the goals anywhere?14:13
tdurakovmdbooth, let me update it tonight14:14
mdboothIt's hard to form an opinion on it without anything at all.14:14
PaulMurraytdurakov, I got that wrong I think - that's not your CI plans in that link - do you have a link?14:14
mdboothtdurakov: Have you posted any code, yet?14:14
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tdurakovmdbooth, will submit series today, yep, bp is not about ci14:14
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tdurakovso for ci it's only negative cases testing:)14:15
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PaulMurraytdurakov, how would you like us to contribute CI ideas ?14:17
tdurakovit would be great14:17
tdurakovtestcases or smth to be improved14:18
PaulMurrayon your patches ?14:18
shaohe_feng_tdurakov:  yes, we can help to add some testcases for CI14:18
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PaulMurray#topic Open Discussion14:19
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tdurakovPaulMurray, we could wrap things to be implemented/improved on ci in etherpad for live-migration14:19
PaulMurrayanyone have anything ?14:19
andrearosais there14:20
kashyaptdurakov: Were you able to reproduce this livemig CI failure lately? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/153523214:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1535232 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration ci failure on nfs shared storage" [Medium,Confirmed]14:20
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tdurakovkashyap, not14:20
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kashyapOkay, it was indeterministic last I recall14:20
andrearosaany plan for the future work on live-migration? I mean do we start to submit new specs now?14:20
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tdurakovkashyap, exactly14:21
PaulMurraytdurakov, lets add a new etherpad for that and link it from the live migratino one14:21
tdurakovPaulMurray, ack14:21
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PaulMurrayI can do it now14:21
PaulMurrayhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-live-migration-CI-ideas14:22
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PaulMurrayAnything else for today ?14:23
eliqiaoI notied that there are some patched about using state machine for migration, it wothy to have a look #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/migration-state-machine14:23
eliqiaos/patched/patches14:23
* mdbooth is wondering about resubmitting BPs for N14:24
mdboothAnd when to do that14:24
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PaulMurraymdbooth, we can resubmit blueprints for N already14:24
pkoniszewskiwell, you already can resubmit14:24
mdboothCool, thanks14:24
PaulMurrayThere are a number there - the directory has been open for about a month14:24
eliqiaooh, there are also specs need to be updated.14:24
PaulMurrayor so14:24
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PaulMurrayIf there are any ideas that need to be developed before the next cycle it is a good time to put some thought into it14:26
PaulMurrayit is always possible to get things sorted before we get there14:26
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PaulMurraySo feel free to submit specs and look for things in the newton directory to review14:27
PaulMurrayand we can use this meeting to discuss ideas if you like - just add to agenda14:27
PaulMurray(I will make sure I have an agenda up by monday each week now)14:28
tdurakovPaulMurray, I'd like to implement  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-compute-compute-communication during N, but it worth to discuss during next meeting, as there would be PoC and spec14:28
PaulMurraytdurakov, ok - I'm interested in that one too14:28
pkoniszewski+1 for discussing about this14:28
eliqiaotdurakov: I think that would be big change.14:28
tdurakovwill add to agenda for next meeting14:28
PaulMurrayanything else14:29
PaulMurray?14:29
pkoniszewskiwe can solve a lot of problems if we do it right (and introduce new issues :D )14:29
tdurakovpkoniszewski, :-D14:29
PaulMurrayI think we are done14:29
PaulMurraybye all14:29
shaohe_feng_PaulMurray: I have learn some user can not do live-migration successfully, but vmware can with the same environment.14:29
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eliqiaobye14:29
tdurakovcould anyone review this ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280653/14:29
tdurakovbye14:29
shaohe_feng_bye14:29
PaulMurray#endmeeting14:29
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mdboothtdurakov: Already reviewing it :)14:29
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eliqiaotdurakov: added me :)14:30
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devkulkarni#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar  1 17:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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devkulkarni#topic Roll Call17:00
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devkulkarniDevdatta Kulkarni17:00
vijendaro/17:01
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devkulkarnihi vijendar17:01
vijendarhi devkulkarni17:01
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devkulkarnilets wait for few minutes to see if anyone else is joining us today17:01
vijendarsure17:01
devkulkarnihere is the agenda for today17:01
devkulkarnihttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-01-01_1700_UTC17:01
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james_lijames li17:02
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devkulkarnihi james_li17:02
james_liHi devkulkarni17:02
devkulkarniwe have vijendar as well17:02
devkulkarnigood to see you james_li17:02
devkulkarnihere is the agenda for today:17:03
vijendarhi james_li17:03
devkulkarnihttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-01-01_1700_UTC17:03
james_liHi vijendar17:03
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devkulkarniI will proceed in a minute17:04
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devkulkarnialright.. lets begin17:04
devkulkarni#topic Announcements17:04
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devkulkarniI have none prepared17:05
devkulkarni#topic Action Items17:05
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devkulkarniSpace for OpenStack summit17:05
devkulkarniFor Tokyo we had 1 Fishbowl, what should we have for Austin? Options are Fishbowl slots (Wed-Thu), Workroom slots (Tue-Thu), Contributors meetup (Fri)17:05
devkulkarniPlease add your choices with name to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-austin-design-summit-space-needs (deadline March 6)17:05
devkulkarnilet me give some background about this17:05
devkulkarnithe openstack folks who work towards arranging the summit reached out to all the PTLs recently with question regarding space for Austin summit17:06
devkulkarnithere are three types of activities that happen during the summit17:06
devkulkarnifishbowl, workrooms, contributor's meetup17:07
devkulkarniif you check the etherpad, I have added details about each of these17:07
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devkulkarnia fishbowl session is more of a presentation session17:07
devkulkarniworkroom session is more about design and discussion17:07
devkulkarniI am thinking that we should request 1 fb and 1 workroom session17:08
james_lisounds good to me17:08
devkulkarnithe fb session can be used to showcase current capabilities of solum17:08
vijendarmake sense17:08
devkulkarniworkroom session will be where we can get together and plan and discuss features etc.17:08
devkulkarnicool17:08
vijendarhow long workroom session will be?17:08
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devkulkarnivijendar: good question17:09
devkulkarniI think fb slots are 40 minutes and workroom sessions are also 40 minutes17:09
devkulkarniat least that is how it was for Tokyo summit17:09
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vijendarok17:10
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devkulkarnithe deadline for me to send this info to the organizers is March 617:10
devkulkarniI will check with others as well17:10
vijendarmay be we need more time for workroom session, but 40mins is OK17:10
devkulkarniat the minimum, I will request 1 fb and 1 workroom session17:10
james_liwe are not sure if we can get both, right?17:11
devkulkarnijames_li: yes, that is correct17:11
devkulkarnithere is no guarantee that we will get both17:11
james_liif there will be only one for us, which should we go?17:11
devkulkarnigood question james_li17:11
devkulkarniin that case, there are advantages to have a fishbowl session over workroom session17:12
james_liagree17:12
devkulkarniwhat do you think vijendar?17:12
vijendarprobably fb is good17:12
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james_lidevkulkarni: we need to prepare some demos for the fb?17:13
devkulkarnijames_li: yes, we should17:14
james_liand how about our talks?17:14
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devkulkarnionce we start getting closer to the date of the summit, I will pull you all in to discuss what kind of demo we want to do17:14
devkulkarnijames_li: no word on the talks yet17:14
devkulkarniI am guessing that sometime in next couple of weeks we will know17:15
james_lifor the demos, I'd suggest not to use devstack, but run solum on a cloud server, and maybe deploy apps to real carina prod.17:15
devkulkarni++ james_li17:15
james_lithats the best from my point of view17:15
vijendar+1 james_li17:16
devkulkarniI agree17:16
devkulkarniwe should do that17:16
james_licool17:16
devkulkarnigood discussion17:16
devkulkarnilet me move on to the next topi17:17
devkulkarnitopic17:17
devkulkarni#topic Bug Review17:17
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devkulkarniI thought we can discuss about some recent new bugs17:17
devkulkarnilets start with17:17
devkulkarni1) Separate app-data from param-data17:18
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/153160917:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1531609 in Solum "Separate app-data and param-data" [Low,New]17:18
devkulkarniciello just pinged us on solum irc channel about this bug17:18
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devkulkarniseems like ciello is interested in working on it17:18
devkulkarnivijendar: this is the bug that you had created17:18
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devkulkarnicould you weigh in on the bug and answer questions that ciello might have17:19
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vijendarsure17:19
devkulkarnion solum irc channel ciello mentioned that the bug is not reproducible17:19
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devkulkarnithanks vijendar17:20
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devkulkarni2) App delete receiving stack not found17:21
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/154838217:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548382 in Solum "app-delete-receiving-stack-not-found" [Critical,New]17:21
vijendarI am setting up my dev env to repro this issue17:21
devkulkarnivijendar: cool17:21
devkulkarniI can assign it to you?17:21
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vijendarsure17:22
devkulkarnicool17:22
devkulkarnithere are few other bugs17:23
devkulkarni3) Cleanup output of app show17:23
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/154582917:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1545829 in python-solumclient "clean-up-output-of-solum-app-show" [Undecided,New]17:23
devkulkarnithis one is to clean up output of app show17:24
devkulkarnishould be easy to fix17:24
devkulkarniI can take care of it17:24
devkulkarni4) Create admin api to set per tenant limits17:25
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/154627117:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1546271 in Solum "create-admin-api-to-set-per-tenant-limits" [Wishlist,New]17:25
devkulkarnithis one came about from our need to limit the number of apps and then number of instances of an app that can be created17:25
devkulkarniwhere else we might want admin api?17:26
devkulkarnidynamically changing deployer configuration?17:26
devkulkarnisay for instance, using heat vs. using carina?17:27
vijendarsure. that makes sense17:27
vijendarmay be an endpoint to list all the users apps… something similar to heat admin api17:28
devkulkarniin our current architecture, we will have to restart the deployer to take this effect17:28
devkulkarnivijendar: good point.. although I think we can just use 'solum app list' with admin token to do this17:28
vijendarto support this, we need to re-architect17:28
devkulkarniagree — to support dynamically changeable deployer backends we might need to re-architect our code17:29
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devkulkarnivijendar: good discussion17:30
devkulkarniI will add this to the bug description17:30
devkulkarni5) Keystone changes affecting devstack plugin17:30
devkulkarnihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/154428617:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1544286 in Solum "keystone-changes-affecting-devstack-plugin" [High,New] - Assigned to Dimitry Ushakov (dimalg)17:30
devkulkarnithis one is related to keystone changes that might break our plugin17:31
devkulkarnidimtruck was going to look into it, I will ping him to see if there is any progress on this17:31
devkulkarnivijendar: are there any bugs that you want to bring to team's attention?17:32
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devkulkarnieven if you have not yet filed them but have encountered, we can discuss about them17:32
vijendarno17:32
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devkulkarnialright17:33
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vijendarwait17:33
devkulkarniok17:33
vijendarmay be the vagrant setup17:33
devkulkarnivijendar: ok, makes sense17:33
devkulkarniwe have several bugs related to vagrant setup17:33
devkulkarnisome of them are obsolete17:33
devkulkarniI will go through them and check17:34
vijendarok17:34
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devkulkarnifor the current setup issues — I will send a PR to the vagrant repo and link it to a bug if one exists17:34
devkulkarniotherwise I will create a new bug and add the PR to it17:35
devkulkarninote that vagrant related bugs won't be managed by gerrit17:35
devkulkarnias the vagrant repo is not managed by gerrit17:35
devkulkarni#topic Patches for Review17:36
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devkulkarni1) Validate app schema17:36
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/282544/17:36
devkulkarnivijendar: let me review this right now17:36
vijendardevkulkarni: thanks17:36
vijendarjames_li: please take a look when you get a chance17:37
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devkulkarnivijendar: added a comment17:38
devkulkarnithe enum should contain "unittest" instead of "test"17:39
vijendardevkulkarni: sure. will update the ptach17:39
vijendar*patch17:39
devkulkarnisounds good.. rest looks good17:39
devkulkarni2) Solum Mitaka releases17:40
devkulkarnihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/284200/17:40
devkulkarniI had submitted this last week17:40
devkulkarniI will update this to include the latest commits17:40
devkulkarniare there any other patches to review?17:40
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devkulkarnithere was a patch that changed the tempest lib import .. it unblocked the devstack gate17:41
vijendarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/257002/17:41
vijendarcan we get this merged one line doc change17:41
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devkulkarnivijendar: makes sense17:41
vijendarthis is hanging there for a long time17:41
devkulkarniagreed17:42
vijendarwe need one +2 from james_li or murali17:42
devkulkarnivijendar: yep17:42
vijendardevkulkarni: or you can +217:42
devkulkarniI had submitted it to test the setup of my other account17:42
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vijendarok17:43
devkulkarniI think one of the other cores can quickly approve it17:43
vijendarsure17:43
devkulkarnivijendar: I was looking at your patch to validate if lp exists or not17:43
devkulkarniit seems to be failing functionaltests17:43
vijendarI need to fix tests for that17:44
vijendaryeah17:44
devkulkarnihaven't looked into the details17:44
devkulkarniok17:44
vijendarI am setting up environment to fix those tests17:44
vijendarwill update the patch soon (hopefully today)17:44
devkulkarnisounds good17:44
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devkulkarnialright17:45
devkulkarnilets move to Open discussion17:45
devkulkarni#topic Open Discussion17:45
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devkulkarniHere are the major updates from upstream in the last week17:45
devkulkarni1) Request ID tagging17:45
devkulkarnihttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/087878.html17:45
devkulkarnivijendar: you might be interested in this17:46
vijendardevkulkarni: sure17:46
devkulkarnithis is discussion about how to add a request id to track requests across different services17:46
devkulkarniI know you had some ideas about this17:46
vijendaryeah…I was thinking about using open repose to solve this issue17:47
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devkulkarnioh cool17:47
devkulkarniwe could integrate that with solum17:48
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vijendarsure17:48
devkulkarnicool17:48
devkulkarnisecond update is basically the continued discussion about separation of the design summit from the main conference17:49
devkulkarniI am sure we will hear about this topic a lot in the Austin summit17:49
devkulkarnithird update is related to the CORS patch17:50
devkulkarnicheck this: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/087944.html17:51
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devkulkarniI need to go back and check the discussion.. this email goes back to how CORS support was added17:52
devkulkarniwe have already merged the original patch that added CORS support in Solum17:52
devkulkarniwe don't use paste.ini17:52
devkulkarniso probably we don't have to do anything17:52
devkulkarniwill have an update once I go through the discussion17:53
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devkulkarnithat is all I had for major upstream updates17:54
devkulkarnianything else we should discuss today17:55
devkulkarni?17:55
vijendarnone from me17:55
devkulkarnialright then17:56
devkulkarnithanks vijendar and james_li for joining today17:56
devkulkarnisee you next week17:56
devkulkarni#endmeeting17:56
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anteayathe meetbot has returned19:17
anteayaif you want to start the meeting and have the logs archived under the meeting name19:17
etoewsbriancurtin: ^ ?19:19
etoewsbrian must have lost his internet connection or something.19:23
etoewsi'm just going to go ahead and remove server_meta*.py19:23
etoewsthat's it for me.19:24
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rtheisnothing else for me19:30
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rtheisetoews: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285840/ ready for review now ?19:31
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briancurtinetoews: ?19:33
briancurtini think I’m back19:35
etoewsbriancurtin: not quite. i need to remove remove server_meta*.py.19:35
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briancurtin_i think i'm back19:36
etoewsbriancurtin: what's the last message you have?19:37
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briancurtin_the last thing i had in irccloud was your announcement that you're working on the metdata thing with a gerrit link. i then said that we should probably be returning an object with metadata like we do in object_store (which was different than i said on gerrit)19:38
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etoewsokay. there's some missing stuff. i didn't see your message about returning an object19:39
etoewsand i think you missed "apparently server_meta*.py still exists http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-openstacksdk/tree/openstack/compute/v2"19:39
etoews i'll go ahead and remove server_meta*.py and return an object with metadata from those methods.19:39
briancurtin_etoews: returning an object would match object_store, right? i think19:40
etoewsyep19:40
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briancurtin_etoews: ok cool, so yeah, matching that up would be cool. do you think it makes sense to then have some kind of metadata base class or perhaps use the mixin idea from compute, but use it across the board for anything like this?19:41
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briancurtin_etoews: because we're going to have to do this kind of change on a few other things that have metadata19:43
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etoewsi know what you mean but the object store interface is a bit different because the object metadata methods can take a container and the account metadata methods take no resource at all.19:45
etoewscontainer metadata is the only thing that looks like compute metadata19:45
briancurtin_eh, yeah. conforming to the interface might be teh best we can do, since the implementations are all different19:45
etoewsright and the implementations are radically different19:46
etoewsif some other service had a similar metadata interface as compute then it might be worthwhile to do it at that point19:47
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briancurtin_etoews rtheis: anything else going on?19:54
etoewsnada19:54
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rtheisnothing else here19:57
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briancurtin_cool, then i would hit endmeeting but it never officially started, so "end meeting"19:57
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