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PaulMurray#startmeeting Nova Live Migration14:01
openstackMeeting started Tue May 17 14:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration'14:01
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PaulMurrayHi all, just do a ping on other channel14:01
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PaulMurrayI normally do that in advance but got a little delayed14:02
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PaulMurrayagenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration14:02
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PaulMurray#topic CI14:03
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PaulMurrayjumping straight in14:03
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mriedemo/14:03
PaulMurraywe had a couple of actions from last week14:03
PaulMurraytdurakov, did you get anything from markus or tony ?14:03
PaulMurraythe action was: tdurakov to follow up with markus_z/tonyb about the trunk libvirt/qemu repo14:04
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PaulMurraydon't see a wave from tdurakov - maybe he will turn up in a minute14:04
mriedemtdurakov was also looking at using xenial nodes14:04
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mriedemi think he had a patch up actually14:05
* mriedem looks14:05
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/314636/14:05
mriedemaccording to that, gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration should be running on xenial nodes now14:05
PaulMurrayah good, do you know if its made any difference ?14:05
mriedemi haven't seen that switch yet, but i know where to look14:06
kashyap(For those not familiar, "xenial" == Ubuntu 16.04 Long Term Release (LTS))14:06
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/03/315703/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/1288a98/14:06
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/03/315703/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/1288a98/logs/dpkg-l.txt.gz14:06
mriedemlibvirt 1.3.114:07
mriedemqemu 2.514:07
PaulMurraythat's more recent than we need, so good14:07
mdboothkashyap: Thanks, I was assuming it was hypervisor related14:07
mriedemand considering https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315703/ no it doesn't appear to have helped with stability14:07
kashyapmdbooth: Me too.  I thought it was a play on 'Xen'14:07
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mriedemin that change, the job has failed 3 times14:08
mriedembefore it ever gets to setup ceph14:08
andrearosa:(14:08
mriedemso the default config is failing testes14:08
mriedem*tests14:08
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/03/315703/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/1288a98/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2016-05-13_21_32_30_21614:08
mdboothmriedem: Have you looked at the failures, btw?14:08
mriedemso14:09
mriedemUnable to find CPU definition: gate6414:09
mdboothmriedem: Right, thanks14:09
mriedemit looks like the job itself is just busted14:09
mriedemthere was a lot of tinkering for cpu models for the multinode live migration job on trusty,14:09
mriedemswitching to xenial didn't magically work so the cpu models will have to be tinkered with again it looks like14:09
kashyapmriedem: I recall clarkb playing with CPU models in Gate Infra14:10
mriedemyeah14:10
PaulMurrayok, so something to get into14:10
mdboothmriedem: I take it the infrastructure is genuinely heterogeneous?14:11
kashyapSpecifcally this: "Update libvirt cpu map before starting nova " -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168407/14:11
mriedemmdbooth: yes14:11
mdboothmriedem: Ok. Maybe we could just hardcode some lcd?14:11
PaulMurraywhat's lcd ?14:11
mdboothlowest common denominator14:12
PaulMurray:) its always the easy ones14:12
mriedemi thought that's what they were doing14:12
mdboothIt's not as if the cpu is really that important to us14:12
kashyapmdbooth: It was hard-coded, if you're referring to CPU features:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168407/9/tools/cpu_map_update.py14:12
mriedemprobably an action item for someone to talk to clarkb in infra after the meeting14:12
mdboothk14:12
kashyapmriedem: I can follow up14:13
PaulMurrayI'll make it an action14:13
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kashyap(Or if someone with better Infra access than me wants to take it up, that's fine too.)14:14
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PaulMurray#action kashyap to follow up with clarkb about experimental job running xenial fix (presumed cpu model)14:14
PaulMurrayits a good start anyway14:14
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/168407/9/tools/cpu_map_update.py doesn't appear to bomb out at all'14:14
mriedemi.e. if it can't find what it's looking for i don't see it fail14:14
mriedemhttp://logs.openstack.org/03/315703/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/1288a98/logs/libvirt/cpu_map.xml14:15
mriedem<model name="gate64">14:16
mriedemis in there14:16
kashyapHmm, but somehow the CPU def. is lost / not recognized.14:17
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mriedemit's also in the subnode http://logs.openstack.org/03/315703/1/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/1288a98/logs/subnode-2/libvirt/cpu_map.xml14:17
PaulMurraylets not debug this here, we can pick it up outside the meeting14:18
kashyapYeah.14:18
PaulMurrayThe next action was on mriedem14:18
PaulMurraymriedem to hack up devstack-gate changes to test lvm and raw image backends14:18
PaulMurrayI saw a patch14:18
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/316298/14:19
mriedem^ is the lvm experimental queue job14:19
mriedemthere is a dependency on a devstack change and a nova change14:19
PaulMurraythis one isn't merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316295/14:19
mriedemyeah i need to update it quick14:20
mriedemeasy peasy14:20
mriedemshould be merged today14:20
mriedemthen just need another +2 on the infra change, which i can wrastle up in -infra later14:20
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PaulMurrayis it this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215929/14:21
PaulMurraythat's merged ?14:21
mriedemno14:21
PaulMurrayoh, you mean your one14:21
mriedemyeah the nova change for the blacklist rc file14:21
mriedemthe file has a .txt extension which i need to drop14:22
mriedemoomichi: found that14:22
mriedemquick fix14:22
mriedemanyway, should have this all merged today so we can use the job14:22
mriedemnote it's on the experimental queue, so to run it you have to comment with 'check experimental' on your patch14:22
mriedemmdbooth: ^14:22
mdboothmriedem: Cool, thanks. We're not quite there yet, though. diana_clarke will update.14:23
mriedemas for a raw job,14:23
mriedemi didn't get that far14:23
mriedemlast week we talked about maybe switching one of the existing qcow2 jobs to use raw14:23
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mriedemsince everything except ceph and this new lvm job is using qcow214:23
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diana_clarkemriedem: yes, thanks!14:24
mriedemi could test that out with a devstack-gate patch too, i think it's just a matter of setting use_cow_images=False right mdbooth?14:24
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mdboothmriedem: Assuming images_type is defaulted, then yes.14:24
PaulMurrayDo you know which job to use?14:26
mriedemno14:26
mriedemwas thinking maybe the postgresql job14:26
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mriedemthat's already an odd duck of a job anyway14:27
PaulMurray:)14:27
PaulMurrayyou still happy to do it14:28
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mriedemi can push the d-g patch yeah14:28
mriedemand see how it goes14:28
mriedemlots of meetings today though14:28
PaulMurray#action mriedem to change an existing job to use raw instead of qcow214:28
PaulMurraythat's life at the top14:28
PaulMurrayAnything else needed for CI today ?14:29
PaulMurrayok - moving on14:29
PaulMurray#topic Libvirt Storage Pools14:29
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PaulMurrayany update mdbooth diana_clarke14:29
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diana_clarkeI've added the new methods (create_from_image & create_from_func) to the following backends: Ploop, Rbd, Flat (aka Raw, aka NoBacking). I'll toss them up for review later today14:30
PaulMurraythanks14:30
diana_clarkeI believe Matt is auditing the BDM object usage in libvirt/driver.py in preparation for adding the driver_info to the BDM object. Please correct me if I'm wrong, Matt.14:30
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mdboothYup. It's not quite as clear cut as I'd hoped. I need to draw some pictures to work out how BDM info gets from compute/manager into the driver14:31
mdboothIf anybody here is intimately familiar with that process and has some time I'd love to pick your brains, btw14:31
PaulMurraymdbooth, there's a wiki or doc page somewhere for bdm - if you discover something not on there it would be good to update it14:32
PaulMurraymdbooth, or tell me and I'll update it14:32
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mriedemmdbooth: i know some of it14:32
paul-carlton1My specs for storage pools and libvirt migration are awating review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310505/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310538/14:32
mriedemmdbooth: it's all wrapped up in the mystical magical 3 different block_device.py modules in nova14:33
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mriedemyou might have a dict, you might have an object, you might have a dict that wraps an object14:33
mdboothmriedem: Yeah, it's the relationship between those which isn't yet clear to me.14:33
* mdbooth suspects that these days you probably always have an object, and that the code is unnecessarily crufty14:33
PaulMurrayprobably true14:34
PaulMurrayor its close14:34
PaulMurrayWas it nikola who was doing that14:34
mdboothOriginally, yes14:34
mriedemyeah, some of the cruft is from the legacy bdm stuff14:35
mriedemconverting v1 bdms to v214:35
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mriedemso there is a lot of facade stuff and wrapping14:35
PaulMurrayI remember he was the only one who knew some of this stuff14:35
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mriedemi've fixed some bugs in some of it14:35
mriedemwhile we're deprecating apis, maybe we should deprecated bdm v114:35
mriedem*deprecate14:35
PaulMurraygetting a bit off topic now14:36
mdboothmriedem: Yeah. It's weird that we're not converting those at the api layer.14:36
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mdboothPaulMurray: Indeed, sorry.14:36
PaulMurraypaul-carlton1, mentioned his specs aboe14:37
PaulMurraywould be good to get those sorted14:37
PaulMurrayIs there anything else to add on that paul-carlton114:37
PaulMurray?14:37
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paul-carlton1hopefully they speak for themselves but I'm anxious that they don't miss cut for Newton specs14:38
mdboothpaul-carlton1: When is that?14:38
PaulMurrayits priority so there is a bit to go, but yes14:39
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mriedemn-114:39
mriedem6/214:39
mriedemis non-priority spec approval freeze14:39
paul-carlton1end of may I think14:39
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mriedemwe said, however, that libvirt storage pools are a priority14:39
PaulMurraymriedem, 6th of feburary - great14:39
mriedemthis is our release schedule https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule14:40
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mriedemPaulMurray: 'merican date format only here14:40
mriedempriorities https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/newton-priorities.html#libvirt-storage-pools-live-migration14:40
paul-carlton1ok, so no immediate panic!14:40
PaulMurraybut better to get it settled anyway14:40
PaulMurraymoving on agin14:41
PaulMurray#topic Specs14:41
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PaulMurraywell, sort of moving on14:41
davidgilukwhere is the migration force/postcopy/autoconverge/etc spec upto?14:41
PaulMurraythe Post-copy and auto-converge merged with auto completion seems close to agreement14:41
* PaulMurray ah, trying to cut paste14:42
paul-carlton1mriedem, when is priority feature freeze, I don't see it on wiki page14:42
PaulMurrayhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/306561 - Automatic Live Migration Completion14:42
mriedempaul-carlton1: same as normal FF14:42
mriedempaul-carlton1: sept 2nd14:42
PaulMurrayThat spec did have a +2 from danpb14:43
johnthetubaguyso isn't switching to post-copy automated somehow?14:43
paul-carlton1ta14:43
paul-carlton1johnthetubaguy, nope14:43
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, no, we have to tell it to do it14:43
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, so the spec talks about when and how agressive to be14:44
PaulMurrayin moitoring thread14:44
johnthetubaguygotcha14:44
PaulMurrayIt also adds a --force-complete flag to live migrate API14:44
johnthetubaguyI just don't like config options change the API sematics, but I kinda get why we want that here, I just need some theory about that first14:44
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: Automated by Nova.14:45
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PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, the idea is always use post-copy if you can14:46
PaulMurraybut allow ops to disable it if they really want14:46
PaulMurrayso default is to have it14:46
paul-carlton1if available, post-copy is a recent feature14:47
PaulMurrayThis spec is not priority so we could do with reviews14:47
johnthetubaguyhmm, I thought we said post-copy was dangerous, but I guess its optional14:47
PaulMurrayat earliest convenience14:47
mdboothjohnthetubaguy: I think the 'dangerous' moniker is largely misinformation.14:48
PaulMurraymdbooth, I think the exposure is small, but the main problem is its new14:48
paul-carlton1johnthetubaguy, there are risks of instance failing and needing a reboot if network goes down but networks are pretty reliable and a reboot is not end of the world14:49
PaulMurrayand in production we find new = don't always work14:49
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mdboothPaulMurray: Always apropos bugs.14:49
paul-carlton1the alternative may be a suspend or auto-converge which is potentially worse14:49
PaulMurrayAny other specs to mention?14:50
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mdboothBasically, almost everything which would cause post-copy to fail would also have caused some other failure.14:50
paul-carlton1https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307131/14:50
PaulMurrayjohnthetubaguy, you -1 that before ^^^14:50
paul-carlton1Live Migration of rescued instances, I have an implementation ready(ish) for this14:50
PaulMurrayI think it covers what you asked for ?14:50
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paul-carlton1I've updated it since speaking to johnthetubaguy14:51
johnthetubaguycool, I should get back to that one and take another look soon14:51
PaulMurraytime is moving on14:51
PaulMurray#topic reviews14:51
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PaulMurrayanything specific in review ?14:52
abhishekkhi14:52
abhishekkhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/215483/ - Set migration status to 'error' on live-migration failure14:52
PaulMurrayI think that one is there now - just needs core review14:53
abhishekkyes, please do the needful when get time:)14:53
mriedemnot sure i can handle an 8 LOC patch14:53
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PaulMurrayI'll ping the cores that had an opinion on it if they don't respond soon14:53
PaulMurray#topic Open Discussion14:54
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abhishekkthank you PaulMurray14:54
PaulMurraya few minutes for any other business14:54
PaulMurrayI guess we're done14:55
PaulMurraythank you all for coming14:55
PaulMurrayplease do some reviews for others14:55
johnthetubaguyI guess the etherpad is all up to date right?14:55
PaulMurray#action all review sub team patches14:56
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PaulMurraythe sub team section on the review tracking page is14:56
PaulMurrayI need to clean up our own page14:56
PaulMurraybut for now the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking is the place to go14:56
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* mdbooth is getting substantive review on the bottom of the instance storage patch stack, btw14:56
PaulMurraygood mdbooth14:57
PaulMurraybye14:57
mdboothwhich is awesome14:57
PaulMurray#endmeeting14:57
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openstackMeeting ended Tue May 17 14:57:31 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:57
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diana_clarkethanks folks!14:57
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devkulkarni1#startmeeting Solum Team Meeting17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 17 17:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is devkulkarni1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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devkulkarni1#topic Roll Call17:00
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devkulkarni1Devdatta Kulkarni17:00
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AbluJo17:02
Ablu*hi17:02
devkulkarni1hi Ablu17:02
AbluSilly german autocorrect17:02
devkulkarni1:)17:03
devkulkarni1Ablu: lets wait for few minutes for others to join17:03
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devkulkarni1here is the agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-05-17_1700_UTC17:03
vijendarHi all17:03
devkulkarni1hi vijendar17:04
devkulkarni1we have Ablu with us today17:04
devkulkarni1I think we can get started17:04
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vijendarsure17:04
devkulkarni1#topic Announcements17:04
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AbluHi all. But I am mostly afk17:04
devkulkarni1I don't have any prepared announcements17:04
AbluI might take a bit to reply17:05
devkulkarni1Ablu: sure17:05
devkulkarni1thanks for the heads up17:05
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devkulkarni1are there any announcements from any of you?17:05
devkulkarni1alright17:05
devkulkarni1#topic Review Action Items17:05
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devkulkarni1(devkulkarni) Follow up with the devstack team regarding devstack gate issue related to n-dhcp.log17:05
devkulkarni1I will have this on my plate17:06
devkulkarni1will carry it forward17:06
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devkulkarni1#topic Ideas for Review17:06
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devkulkarni1https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-paderborn-usecase17:06
devkulkarni1vijendar: yesterday, Ablu prepared above etherpad with details about the use-case and thoughts about his project17:07
devkulkarni1I ended up creating bugs to capture various requirements from the etherpad17:07
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devkulkarni1will discuss the bugs in the next topic17:07
vijendarok17:07
devkulkarni1vijendar: today/tomorrow, can you take a look at the etherpad and add your thoughts/comments to it?17:08
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vijendardevkulkarni1: sure17:08
devkulkarni1thanks vijendar17:08
devkulkarni1basically Ablu's interest is in building apps as VMs directly17:09
devkulkarni1the disk-image-builder based scripts that we have in contrib can be used for this imo17:09
vijendarI see17:10
devkulkarni1we can discuss more about the use-case in the bug review17:10
devkulkarni1#topic Bug Review17:10
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devkulkarni11) Ability to deploy app as VM image https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/158237517:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1582375 in Solum "ability-to-build-app-as-a-vm-image" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Erik Schilling (ablu-erikschilling-q)17:10
devkulkarni1this is the bug for building a VM for an app17:11
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devkulkarni1Ablu is also interested in running functional/integration tests on deployed app.17:11
devkulkarni1this could be app that is built as VM or an app that is built as a Docker container17:11
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devkulkarni1following bug captures this requirement17:12
devkulkarni12) Run functional/integration tests https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/158236117:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1582361 in Solum "ability-to-run-functional-integration-tests" [Undecided,New]17:12
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devkulkarni1A related issue is to be able to create different environments (dev/test/staging etc.) for deploying an app17:13
devkulkarni1It is possible to do this with current Solum feature set17:13
devkulkarni1we just need to document how to do it17:14
devkulkarni1following bug captures this requirement:17:14
devkulkarni13) Document app environment support https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/158236917:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1582369 in Solum "document-app-environment-support" [Undecided,New]17:14
devkulkarni1I also created few other bugs17:14
devkulkarni14) Sample multi-service app https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/158236217:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1582362 in Solum "sample-multi-service-app" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla)17:15
devkulkarni1vijendar I have assigned above bug to you17:15
vijendardevkulkarni1: sure17:15
devkulkarni1as I know you have been looking at this17:15
devkulkarni15) Should skip unit testing if no test command specified https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/157841617:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578416 in python-solumclient "should-not-test-if-no-test-command" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Devdatta Kulkarni (devdatta-kulkarni)17:16
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devkulkarni1this bug is about the issue that when we run 'solum app deploy <app-name>' from command line, the app goes through unit_testing phase even if no test command is specified during app creation17:16
devkulkarni1this is a cli bug17:17
devkulkarni1those were the main bugs that I created in last couple of days17:17
devkulkarni1are there any bugs that you had in mind but which you have not filed yet?17:17
devkulkarni1vijendar: ^17:17
vijendardevkulkarni1: I have already created bugs for issues I have found17:18
vijendarhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/158079117:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1580791 in Solum "On github trigger PR code is not deployed" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Vijendar Komalla (vijendar-komalla)17:18
devkulkarni1cool, thanks vijendar17:18
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devkulkarni1nice17:19
devkulkarni1apart from these, the bugs that I have listed on the meeting page are from last week17:20
devkulkarni1the other bugs, I mean17:20
devkulkarni1Java REST API example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/158024517:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1580245 in Solum "java-rest-api-example" [Undecided,New]17:20
devkulkarni1Python REST API example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/158024617:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1580246 in Solum "python-rest-api-example" [Undecided,New]17:20
devkulkarni1Inject params at app deploy time: https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/157841417:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578414 in Solum "inject-parameters-at-app-deployment-time" [Undecided,New]17:21
devkulkarni1we discussed about these last week17:21
devkulkarni1so moving to the next topic17:21
devkulkarni1#topic Blueprints for Review17:21
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devkulkarni1#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/solum/+spec/unikernel-support17:22
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devkulkarni1this was filed by mvle after the summit17:22
devkulkarni1no updates on this yet17:22
devkulkarni1if you have any thoughts/comments on it, please add it to the whiteboard section of the link17:22
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devkulkarni1#topic Open Discussion17:23
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devkulkarni11) Submission for Barcelona are due in early June17:23
devkulkarni1#link •https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-barcelona-201617:23
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devkulkarni1the exact submission dates have not been announced yet17:23
devkulkarni1we have started an etherpad to discuss and plan talks/workshops/activities that we can propose for the barcelona summit17:24
devkulkarni1feel free to add any ideas/thoughts to the etherpad17:24
devkulkarni1we can collaborate on proposals/ideas17:24
devkulkarni12) Updates from upstream17:25
AbluAgain stuck in a train17:25
devkulkarni1In upstream updates I have several topics17:25
devkulkarni1Ablu: oh :(17:25
devkulkarni1hopefully you can make it home safely17:25
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devkulkarni11) Improving communication and collaboration http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095027.html17:26
devkulkarni1this thread talks about the challenges for our entire community with regards to being on the same page17:27
devkulkarni1lot of good points about communication challenges, intent and assumptions, need for shared understanding and how to build it, etc.17:28
devkulkarni12) Container project, Higgins, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095022.html17:28
devkulkarni1this one is about new project that has been initiated recently to do container life-cycle management natively on openstack17:28
devkulkarni1this is off-shoot of the discussion from the summit regarding what is the mission of the current magnum project17:29
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devkulkarni1magnum's scope has been redefined to focus on container-orchestration-engine (coe) life-cycle management, and higgins is going to be the project that does life-cycle management of containers17:31
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devkulkarni1from our point of view, we can interface with higgins to satisfy lifecycle management requirements of our application-specific docker containers17:32
devkulkarni13) Oslo.log - verbose option deprecated, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095166.html17:32
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devkulkarni1looks like oslo is deprecating the verbose option;17:32
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devkulkarni1I don't know whether our code is affected by this or not; but something to keep in mind17:33
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devkulkarni14) Pycharm license http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095191.html17:33
devkulkarni1If you are using a Pycharm license from openstack then above email might be useful to you17:34
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devkulkarni15) Identity v3-only Devstack http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094829.html17:34
devkulkarni1we need to check how this will affect us17:35
devkulkarni1those were the main updates from the upstream in last week17:35
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devkulkarni1vijendar, Ablu: any email thread that caught your attention?17:35
vijendarnothing from me17:36
devkulkarni1ok17:36
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devkulkarni1that is all I had for today then for today17:38
devkulkarni1thanks vijendar Ablu for joining the meeting17:38
devkulkarni1see you next week17:38
devkulkarni1#endmeeting17:38
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