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| tidwellr_ | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 26 15:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tidwellr_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
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| tidwellr_ | hi | 15:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 15:00 |
| vikram | Hi | 15:00 |
| pavel_bondar_ | hi | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 15:00 |
| tidwellr_ | #chair mlavalle carl_baldwin | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle tidwellr_ | 15:00 |
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| tidwellr_ | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| tidwellr_ | the agenda can be found here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | One more week to N-1 | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 15:02 |
| carl_baldwin | If that. It could be sooner. | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | it usually is sooner | 15:03 |
| tidwellr_ | thanks carl_baldwin | 15:03 |
| tidwellr_ | anything other announcements? | 15:03 |
| tidwellr_ | if not, let's move on | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | I wish we could announce the mid-cycle but I haven't seen it become official. | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | It will be in mid-August and the unofficial word is that it will be in Cork, Ireland. | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | that's all | 15:05 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: when do we expect plans to firm up on that? | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Any time now. | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints | 15:06 |
| carl_baldwin | Watch there ^ | 15:06 |
| tidwellr_ | thanks for the link | 15:06 |
| tidwellr_ | #topic Bugs | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:07 | |
| tidwellr_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1581918 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1581918 in neutron "Sometimes DHCP agent spawns dnsmasq incorrectly" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:07 |
| tidwellr_ | working backwards through the list | 15:07 |
| tidwellr_ | this one looks new | 15:07 |
| carl_baldwin | Fixed | 15:07 |
| tidwellr_ | and it's been fixed apparently | 15:07 |
| tidwellr_ | moving on! :) | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | lol | 15:08 |
| tidwellr_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1564335 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564335 in neutron " [Pluggable IPAM] delete subnet in ml2 plugin does not comply with pluggable ipam (deletes ip allocations directly from db)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 15:08 |
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| tidwellr_ | pavel_bondar: do you have any news to share on this one? | 15:09 |
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| carl_baldwin | Will look again | 15:09 |
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| pavel_bondar_ | hi | 15:10 |
| pavel_bondar_ | the first part of the patch is on review | 15:10 |
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| pavel_bondar_ | and for the second part looks like we have a solution | 15:11 |
| pavel_bondar_ | so I will work on implementing it | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar_: I haven't seen much activity on the ML | 15:11 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095547.html | 15:11 |
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| carl_baldwin | It has been a week, I say we pursue the solution we discussed in the thread. | 15:12 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: I think that's it. | 15:12 |
| tidwellr_ | thanks | 15:13 |
| tidwellr_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1543094 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543094 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] DB exceeded retry limit (RetryRequest) on create_router call" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ryan Tidwell (ryan-tidwell) | 15:13 |
| pavel_bondar_ | carl_baldwin: I think we can pick solution with hacking 'fixed_ips' unless any other ideas come up | 15:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | ++ | 15:13 |
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| tidwellr_ | sorry, jumped the gun there. anything else on the previous bug? | 15:14 |
| pavel_bondar_ | no | 15:14 |
| tidwellr_ | I haven't had much time to look at this one during the week | 15:15 |
| tidwellr_ | I am stuck on this error #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/505673/ | 15:15 |
| tidwellr_ | I'm not sure what I've changed that causes this, still needs more investigation | 15:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: It is strange. I could maybe help look in to it a little bit if you want. | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: I looked at it enough to be sure that somehow your patch is causing this or uncovering it. | 15:16 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: that would be awesome, I haven't been able to devote time to it this week | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr_: Okay, I'll plan to look in to it a little bit today between trying to get reviews for routed netwroks. | 15:17 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: I'm convinced there's something about the patch that causes this | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | agreed | 15:18 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will look in to errors in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1543094 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1543094 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] DB exceeded retry limit (RetryRequest) on create_router call" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ryan Tidwell (ryan-tidwell) | 15:18 |
| tidwellr_ | #topic Routed Networks | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routed Networks (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:19 | |
| carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | Need reviews for some patches. | 15:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314815 | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | That is the first IPAM patch. It is now the bottom of the chain since mlavalle 's patch merged! | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | thanks for all the help! | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | There are three IPAM patches. One for segment awareness on port create, one for deferred IP allocation on port update, and one to root out a bug with ML2 that keeps fixed_ips from being returned in the response. | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | I won't link them all here since they're lined up. | 15:22 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Are there any routed networks areas that could use more implementation help? | 15:22 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: Yes, I'm sure there are. | 15:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | I was discussing with blogan the other day about DHCP. There might be some ways to help there. | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: Have you seen the etherpad? | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/routed-provider-networks-notes | 15:23 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: I hadn't. Thanks, will take a look | 15:23 |
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| carl_baldwin | We have meetings on Tuesday mornings too. | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | john-davidge: blogan mentioned this past Tuesday during the meeting that he could use help with DHCP | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | he said the effort is going to be longer than originally expected | 15:25 |
| john-davidge | mlavalle: Thanks, will reach out to him | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: You might want to start by running through some of the setup documented on the etherpad. | 15:25 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Will do, thanks. Missed the meeting this week due to pesky British Summer Time | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: ack. It'll will be great to have help. | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | john-davidge: here's this past Tuesday's log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_routed_networks/2016/neutron_routed_networks.2016-05-24-15.02.log.txt | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | so you can see blogan's comments | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm thinking it is time to start building some bigger environments. I'm starting to reach out to some folks trying to get some help setting up hardware. | 15:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Here are some other patches in flight: | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295173 | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315573/ | 15:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299591 | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321152 | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317358 | 15:29 |
| carl_baldwin | The list goes on ... | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll get mine rebased as soon as possible. That's all from me. | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Anything else? | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | nope, good summary | 15:30 |
| tidwellr_ | awesome work | 15:31 |
| carl_baldwin | Great progress here! | 15:31 |
| tidwellr_ | seems to be moving along fairly quickly | 15:32 |
| tidwellr_ | john_davidge: those time changes are pesky, bites us here in the states too :) | 15:32 |
| tidwellr_ | alright, if nothing else let's move on | 15:33 |
| tidwellr_ | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP Dynamic Routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:33 | |
| Na_Zhu | hi | 15:33 |
| Na_Zhu | https://review.openstack.org/319558 this patch need review | 15:33 |
| Na_Zhu | this patch is for adding policy file in neutron-dynamic-routing | 15:34 |
| tidwellr_ | Na_Zhu: thanks working on this | 15:34 |
| Na_Zhu | tidwellr_: i think you still have comments on this patch | 15:35 |
| tidwellr_ | Na_Zhu: thanks for working on this, I think it's close | 15:35 |
| tidwellr_ | we had aimed to have the neutron dynamic-routing repository stood up by N-1, as far as I can tell this is the last hurdle we have | 15:35 |
| Na_Zhu | tidwellr_: yes, i also think so | 15:35 |
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| Na_Zhu | tidwellr: about the cli part, we can release together with osc transition | 15:36 |
| tidwellr_ | the docs and functional/api/fullstack jobs can continue to be worked on | 15:36 |
| tidwellr_ | Na_Zhu: ack | 15:36 |
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| tidwellr_ | thanks for working that as well | 15:37 |
| Na_Zhu | tidwellr: the cli has dependency on osc plugin, we can not do anything until the python-neutronclient osc plugin is ready | 15:37 |
| Na_Zhu | tidwellr_: np | 15:37 |
| tidwellr_ | we're at the point now where you can stack with neutron-dynamic-routing and have BGP in your devstack environment | 15:37 |
| tidwellr_ | we're at the point where I think we can start working through RFE's | 15:39 |
| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin has some RFE's to bring up at the next driver's meeting | 15:39 |
| tidwellr_ | so good progress here | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | That's today. | 15:39 |
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| Na_Zhu | tidwellr_: i think i can help about the RFEs | 15:40 |
| Na_Zhu | tidwellr_: there are several RFEs about neutron-dynamic-routing, we can work together, right? | 15:40 |
| tidwellr_ | Na_Zhu: yes, we're finally getting around to discussing some RFE's filed by Mickey and Steve, as well as some others | 15:41 |
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| Na_Zhu | tidwellr_: thanks | 15:42 |
| tidwellr_ | Na_Zhu: we'll see what gets approved and we'll start working on some things shortly | 15:43 |
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| tidwellr_ | that's all I had | 15:43 |
| Na_Zhu | tidwellr: ok, thanks | 15:43 |
| tidwellr_ | #topic FWaaS | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:44 | |
| carl_baldwin | SridarK: ping | 15:44 |
| SridarK | Hi | 15:44 |
| SridarK | thanks | 15:44 |
| tidwellr_ | I wanted to leave some time for FWaaS, I saw some activity on the etherpad earlier in the meeting | 15:44 |
| SridarK | On the L3 Agent extension to support services: | 15:44 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315745/ | 15:45 |
| SridarK | We still need more details, the intent is to see how closely we can follow the L2 Agent extension pattern | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | SridarK: I will read through this. | 15:46 |
| SridarK | if u folks can monitor this and add comments will be most helpful | 15:46 |
| SridarK | carl_baldwin: thx | 15:46 |
| SridarK | we want to also get more details to capture the workflow | 15:46 |
| SridarK | thx | 15:47 |
| SridarK | thats all from me, we will continue to iterate | 15:47 |
| carl_baldwin | SridarK: Thanks. | 15:47 |
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| tidwellr_ | thanks | 15:49 |
| SridarK | tidwellr_: thx for the airtime | 15:50 |
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| tidwellr_ | #topic Open Discussion | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:51 | |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: I've been out of the loop on the midcycle discussion, how final would you say the location is at this point? | 15:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | john-davidge: It isn't for me to say. I'd wait for the "tentative" to be removed from the wiki by someone from IBM. | 15:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hopefully, they'll send an announcement to the ML. | 15:53 |
| john-davidge | carl_baldwin: Ok, cool. I know we tried to reach out to Armando about hosting in San Antonio but I guess the wheels were already turning | 15:53 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm hoping it will be official soon so that we can make travel arrangements. | 15:55 |
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| tidwellr_ | carl_baldwin: international travel is always an issue both ways, I wonder if a handful of meetups would possible | 15:55 |
| tidwellr_ | just a crazy thought | 15:55 |
| tidwellr_ | in different locations | 15:55 |
| tidwellr_ | alright, anything else to discuss? | 15:56 |
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| tidwellr_ | going once.... | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | Not from me | 15:57 |
| tidwellr_ | going twice.... | 15:57 |
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| tidwellr_ | thanks everyone! | 15:58 |
| tidwellr_ | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 26 15:58:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-05-26-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-05-26-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-05-26-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
| yamamoto | bye | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | bye | 15:58 |
| SridarK | bye | 15:58 |
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| xiexianbin | bye | 15:59 |
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| etoews | #startmeeting api wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 26 16:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is etoews. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | hey | 16:00 |
| etoews | hiya | 16:00 |
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| etoews | sorry i missed the past couple of meetings | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | no worries, we soldiered on =) | 16:00 |
| etoews | :) | 16:00 |
| etoews | cdent: in the house? | 16:01 |
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| elmiko | even took care of a few action items | 16:01 |
| cdent | i yam | 16:01 |
| elmiko | although i think i need to workflow a couple things | 16:01 |
| etoews | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:01 |
| etoews | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
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| etoews | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-19-16.00.html | 16:02 |
| elmiko | so, i am merging the 2 we froze last time | 16:02 |
| elmiko | and i setup the wiki page we talked about | 16:02 |
| etoews | ++ | 16:02 |
| cdent | ✔ | 16:02 |
| elmiko | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group_weekly_email_template | 16:02 |
| elmiko | probably will need some tweaking, but it's a start | 16:02 |
| elmiko | and i'll even offer to send the inagural newsletter on monday =) | 16:02 |
| * etoews reads | 16:03 | |
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| cdent | is it worth having a "recently proposed guidelines" section, or it that inviting too much noise? | 16:04 |
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| elmiko | seemed like the community wanted more noise, so maybe it would be worth it | 16:05 |
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| etoews | i think so | 16:05 |
| elmiko | maybe something like "guidelines currently under construction" or something similar? | 16:05 |
| etoews | let's update the template right now | 16:05 |
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| elmiko | do it! =) | 16:05 |
| cdent | righteous | 16:06 |
| elmiko | hmm, need to remove some of the wiki formatting from the template too | 16:07 |
| etoews | concurrent editing on wiki bad. do we need a temp etherpad? | 16:07 |
| elmiko | nope, i can wait | 16:07 |
| elmiko | unless we want to get some sort of mega-brain concurrent work session going =) | 16:08 |
| etoews | i'd like to have these meetings be more work oriented | 16:08 |
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| elmiko | i don't necessarily have a problem with that, but i think we need more contributors | 16:09 |
| cdent | in this case I think we only need the one change on the template, so whereas etherpad would make a ton of sense, now, meh? | 16:09 |
| elmiko | right | 16:09 |
| etoews | okay. | 16:10 |
| etoews | who's making the change? | 16:10 |
| elmiko | oh, lol, i thought you were! | 16:10 |
| etoews | exactly | 16:10 |
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| elmiko | ok, i'll add it | 16:11 |
| etoews | now we play. who has the semaphore? | 16:11 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:11 |
| elmiko | ok, check it out now | 16:13 |
| cdent | seems good, I think the main win is getting it started and evolving | 16:14 |
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| elmiko | yea, i just tried to shotgun blast the high points we talked about last time | 16:15 |
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| elmiko | i think there is room to improve the language and add content | 16:15 |
| etoews | i'm all for one of the outputs of this meeting to be the sending of the email | 16:15 |
| elmiko | ok, cool | 16:15 |
| etoews | but if you want it on a different sched that's fine too | 16:15 |
| elmiko | i don't have a strong opinion on that one. it might be nice to send them after our meetings though as the info will be fresh in our minds | 16:16 |
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| etoews | right. | 16:16 |
| cdent | If I understand etoews correctly, he might be suggesting that we co-write it as part of our weekly doings in this hour? | 16:16 |
| etoews | and easier to load balance producing the newsletter when there are several of us around to write it. | 16:16 |
| etoews | cdent: pretty much | 16:16 |
| elmiko | sure, just toss the template into a pad and have at it! | 16:16 |
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| etoews | more action during meetings. less todos. | 16:17 |
| elmiko | heh | 16:17 |
| cdent | what time of day is it for you etoews, about 10 or 11? | 16:17 |
| cdent | (I forget where you are) | 16:17 |
| etoews | 11 | 16:17 |
| etoews | i'm in austin (CST) | 16:18 |
| etoews | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:18 |
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| cdent | word | 16:18 |
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| etoews | do we have any API guidelines proposed for freeze? | 16:19 |
| elmiko | not yet ;) | 16:19 |
| etoews | k. we'll remove that section for this week. | 16:19 |
| elmiko | i think we should just say, "None" or something to leave the emails consistent | 16:20 |
| cdent | yeah, looks like it is time to a) start doing some more guidelines b) start making the todos and typos into issues in launchpad c) doing them issues | 16:20 |
| cdent | s/None/Make one! | 16:20 |
| cdent | or something like that? | 16:20 |
| cdent | (for the under review part I mean) | 16:21 |
| cdent | the only open guideliness at the moment are either controversial or lost their main supporters, should these email be something that indicates that people need to come back to them? | 16:22 |
| etoews | i'm going to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162716/ | 16:22 |
| elmiko | i think that definitely falls in line with providing more noise | 16:22 |
| cdent | etoews++ | 16:23 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:23 |
| etoews | elmiko: are you saying don't put anything under Guidelines currently under review because they're all controversial/lost main supporters? | 16:25 |
| elmiko | no, i agree with putting controversial stuff there | 16:25 |
| cdent | the opposite, yeah, people want more noise, so this is the kind of noise we should do | 16:25 |
| elmiko | we should let the community know about our pain points | 16:25 |
| etoews | k | 16:25 |
| elmiko | hopefully someone will see us having issues and want to help =) | 16:25 |
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| etoews | feel free to jump into the etherpad and CRUD! | 16:26 |
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| cdent | i've just reordered to: merged->frozen->debated | 16:28 |
| cdent | it was frozen->merged->debated which didn't feel right | 16:28 |
| cdent | i'll update the wiki page | 16:28 |
| elmiko | ack, thanks! | 16:28 |
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| etoews | ready to go? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:30 |
| elmiko | awesome, that worked out well. i think so | 16:30 |
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| etoews | cdent: ready to go for you? | 16:31 |
| cdent | yeah, seems good | 16:31 |
| etoews | elmiko: do you want to go ahead and send it right now? | 16:31 |
| elmiko | sure, i can do that | 16:31 |
| cdent | hawt | 16:31 |
| etoews | so hawt right now | 16:32 |
| elmiko | hehe | 16:32 |
| elmiko | we should add something to the wiki about a suggested email subject | 16:32 |
| elmiko | using [all][api] API working group weekly newsletter, for now | 16:32 |
| elmiko | unless either of you has a really catchy title | 16:32 |
| cdent | i think that's just soooooper | 16:33 |
| elmiko | like "[all][api] POST {'news': 'weekly update'}" =) | 16:33 |
| elmiko | or POST /api-wg/news/update | 16:33 |
| etoews | POST update???? | 16:33 |
| cdent | demerit! | 16:33 |
| elmiko | right, POST /api-wg/news | 16:34 |
| elmiko | sorry | 16:34 |
| etoews | :D | 16:34 |
| etoews | i like it | 16:34 |
| elmiko | i'm trying to think of something catchy like "whats up doc?" | 16:34 |
| elmiko | it's tough | 16:34 |
| etoews | no no. you nailed it. | 16:34 |
| cdent | yeah, POST /api-wg/news is great | 16:34 |
| etoews | yep | 16:34 |
| elmiko | ok, col | 16:34 |
| elmiko | cool even | 16:34 |
| elmiko | sent! | 16:35 |
| etoews | boom | 16:35 |
| cdent | only now ill we see the typoes | 16:35 |
| cdent | and typos even | 16:35 |
| etoews | will even | 16:35 |
| elmiko | doh! | 16:35 |
| cdent | nnnnnnngh | 16:36 |
| etoews | #topic guidelines | 16:36 |
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| cdent | this is a nice step forward | 16:36 |
| etoews | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:36 |
| etoews | agreed | 16:36 |
| etoews | we should sync our freezing and merging to this meeting time too. | 16:37 |
| etoews | having a weekly meeting is so much nicer | 16:37 |
| elmiko | yea, seems like a natural fit | 16:37 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:37 |
| cdent | so all of these are pretty stale | 16:37 |
| elmiko | yea | 16:37 |
| cdent | the email ought to bring in some people | 16:38 |
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| cdent | and we can determine which to kill, which need a new owner, etc | 16:38 |
| elmiko | i hope so | 16:38 |
| etoews | as you know, i'm currently interested in the actions guideline https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234994/ | 16:38 |
| cdent | are you interested in providing a new version? | 16:39 |
| elmiko | yea, i don't have the bandwidth to update that one | 16:39 |
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| etoews | cdent: i am but... | 16:40 |
| elmiko | ;) | 16:40 |
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| cdent | one thing I think we probably need to do more of is take some of these kinds of issues to the list prior to proposing a guideline. I think the notion of proposing such general guidelines before establishing some foundation is backwards | 16:41 |
| cdent | that feels anti-openstack, but as far as I'm concerned it is the openstack-major-fail-whale | 16:42 |
| elmiko | hmm, interesting idea | 16:42 |
| etoews | didn't we try that already w.r.t. actions? | 16:43 |
| cdent | I think we tried to encourage discussion on the proposal, or near to it, instead of going deeper | 16:43 |
| cdent | also, the actions case may not be a place where it neesd to happen, I'm just proposing the idea | 16:44 |
| elmiko | seems like we will be adding 1 more step to the process though, 1. start convo on ml, 2. write guideline, 3. review, 4. freeze, is thta accurate? | 16:44 |
| cdent | I'm not saying it should be part of the process always | 16:45 |
| elmiko | gotcha | 16:45 |
| etoews | i see it. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084236.html | 16:45 |
| cdent | in fact I think it should be rare, in part because I think for many guidelines there is a right way already established, we just need to find it | 16:45 |
| cdent | but for some concepts we are being a bit more pioneering. when that's the case, I think we need to discuss to make sure we're on the same ground | 16:46 |
| cdent | https://twitter.com/anticdent/status/735232718846472192 | 16:46 |
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| elmiko | lol | 16:47 |
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| etoews | did you have a new/existing guideline in mind for that cdent? | 16:48 |
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| cdent | no, sadly I haven't had a chance to think in terms of guidelines lately. that tweet was inspired by the "where are the boundaries of openstack, is it programming language" thread(s) | 16:49 |
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| cdent | (10 minutes) | 16:50 |
| etoews | once openstack invents its own programming language, that will put the whole question of languages to bed. | 16:50 |
| elmiko | i figured you were referencing the language discussions | 16:50 |
| elmiko | haha! | 16:50 |
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| cdent | etoews: that's perfect | 16:51 |
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| cdent | any other actions we can make go today? | 16:52 |
| etoews | so i *may* be able to take a stab at a tasks guideline in june. i've got a two week window in which to start it. if i miss that window, i won't be able to get to it until early july. | 16:52 |
| elmiko | ack | 16:53 |
| etoews | i'm considering starting to express confidence in terms of t-shirt sizes. | 16:54 |
| etoews | in this case, i'm a medium | 16:54 |
| elmiko | hehe | 16:54 |
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| elmiko | i like that metric | 16:55 |
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| etoews | anything else for today? | 16:56 |
| cdent | no sirs | 16:56 |
| etoews | anyone else going to pycon? | 16:56 |
| cdent | no :( | 16:56 |
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| elmiko | nothing here | 16:57 |
| elmiko | and sadly, no =( | 16:57 |
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| etoews | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 26 16:58:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| etoews | thanks! | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-26-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-26-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-05-26-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
| elmiko | thanks etoews cdent ! | 16:58 |
| cdent | thanks, now for din dins | 16:58 |
| elmiko | =) | 16:58 |
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| docaedo | courtesy ping - igormarnat_ kfox1111 olaph ddovbii kzaitsev_mb | 17:00 |
| * olaph waves | 17:00 | |
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| docaedo | hello! let's see who else makes it today :) | 17:01 |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:01 |
| igormarnat_ | \o | 17:01 |
| docaedo | Good enough for me! | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 26 17:01:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog Agenda | 17:01 |
| igormarnat_ | Just in case, we're out of electricity in the office, so I can drop offline any minute. Will try to switch to mobile network then | 17:02 |
| docaedo | #topic Glare status update | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glare status update (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:02 | |
| docaedo | Can anyone give an update on glare status? | 17:02 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: thanks for the heads up, hope the electricity comes back quick | 17:02 |
| kraynevs | o/ | 17:03 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: you had news about glare in app catalog, there was some progress, right? | 17:03 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | Well, I've finished all the work I wanted to do with the UI side of the things | 17:04 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I blieve at the summit we've agreed to fill in how we can proceed with merging, but I still haven't done that %) | 17:04 |
| docaedo | I have faith you'll get to it :) | 17:04 |
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| mfedosin | hey! | 17:05 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: When do you think we'll be able to switch catalog to glare backend, what else needs to be done? | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | The basic idea was that we can start merging the commits and turn glare code off by default | 17:05 |
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| mfedosin | so, there is a spec | 17:05 |
| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136/ | 17:05 |
| kzaitsev_mb | next step would be to install glare on a.o.o and turn it on | 17:05 |
| mfedosin | it's about Glare v1 API and general use cases | 17:05 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | And after doing so — we would need to make the API private, since it's going to change once we get to v1 API from GLARE team | 17:06 |
| docaedo | I think there's a bunch of testing before we turn it on | 17:06 |
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| mfedosin | current plan in glance team - to have 'core' code done by the 10th of June | 17:07 |
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| docaedo | have to validate we have an automated method to add/remove assets based on whats in assets.yaml because we don't have user auth yet, so only way to adjust the catalog is still going to be through assets.yaml | 17:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | And in between those two — we still need to work on auth middleware. | 17:07 |
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| mfedosin | and merge it on 15th | 17:07 |
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| khivin | o/ | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | So my next steps from here are to update the patches, so that glare is turned off by default. I'll make a list of those patches (an etherpad maybe) with explanation of the impact, maybe. | 17:08 |
| docaedo | somewhere along the way we can start working on puppetizing the installation of glare (assuming access to DB via trove) | 17:08 |
| igormarnat_ | mfedosin: thanks for update, merge by June, 15 sounds good | 17:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: kfox1111: does that sound ok? =) | 17:08 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: that sounds good, once we can safely merge that stuff it'll give us a safe path forward | 17:09 |
| docaedo | also means it becomes a little easier to test/validate locally | 17:09 |
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| mfedosin | here's the log from todays glance meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-05-26-14.03.log.html | 17:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | oh and I should definitely get my hands on the auth stuff. | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | mfedosin: feel free to use #link ;) | 17:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-05-26-14.03.log.html | 17:10 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb docaedo folks, I'm not in context here, sorry. Is there a plan in place for auth implementation? | 17:10 |
| mfedosin | nikhil designated several items about Glare | 17:10 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: no exact plan, only that it's a known issue | 17:11 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: needs to auth people against their openstack ID, and let folks update their assets | 17:11 |
| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: the plan is to delegate auth to ubuntu one, the same way review.openstack.org does | 17:11 |
| mfedosin | I think they should clarify some things | 17:11 |
| * nikhil lurks | 17:11 | |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: and the people listed as cores for app-catalog can change status of a recently added/updated app | 17:12 |
| kzaitsev_mb | exactly | 17:12 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: ok, but I mean - it's some functionality which needs to be implemented, do we know who'll implement this part? | 17:12 |
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| docaedo | my understanding based on previous conversations is that mfedosin or someone else working on glare would take the lead on the auth middleware | 17:13 |
| igormarnat_ | ah, ok | 17:13 |
| mfedosin | docaedo: correct | 17:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | cool =) I thought I would be the one to do the heavylifting =) Well anyways, I'll offer mfedosin my help on that =) | 17:15 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: OK if I add an action for you like "execute plan to disable glare by default and start merging the pieces"? | 17:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: please do =) | 17:16 |
| docaedo | #action kzaitsev_mb to execute plan to disable glare by default and start merging those bits into app-catalog repo | 17:16 |
| docaedo | Thanks for the glare update, I think we have a good picture on where it stands - moving on? | 17:16 |
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| igormarnat_ | let's wait for a bit for comment from Mike | 17:17 |
| igormarnat_ | mfedosin: so please confirm you're ready to work on this auth middleware | 17:17 |
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| mfedosin | so, the idea is to implement another auth middleware and use instead of current keystone middleware | 17:18 |
| mfedosin | I think they can already be written | 17:18 |
| igormarnat_ | ok, this is more or less clear. Not clear to me is who's gonna be doing it if it's not done. If it's done - where is the repository with the code? :) | 17:18 |
| * mfedosin is googling | 17:18 | |
| kraynevs | kzaitsev_mb: do I understand correctly, that you plan to implement some Glare integration before the official release of v1 API ? I'm just wondering about estimates, and when we can start using it? | 17:19 |
| kzaitsev_mb | kraynevs: yes, if the v1 gets merged before we deploy glare — well, we would just be able to switch to using it, otherwise we would probably have to do some porting work | 17:21 |
| kzaitsev_mb | kraynevs: but the a.o.o API based on glare would stay private until V1 is there | 17:22 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and v1 a.o.o api wouldn't change anyway | 17:22 |
| mfedosin | #link http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4648838/wsgi-middleware-for-oauth-authentication | 17:23 |
| docaedo | I was just going to say that - v1 API for a.o.o will not be v1 API for glare, but we're not advertising app.openstack.org as the canonical glare example anyway | 17:23 |
| kraynevs | kzaitsev_mb: ok | 17:23 |
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| igormarnat_ | so this way or another kzaitsev_mb and mfedosin will figure it out with auth middleware | 17:24 |
| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: we'll do =) | 17:25 |
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| igormarnat_ | great, let's proceed than:) | 17:25 |
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| docaedo | #topic App Dev Community Discussion (Igor) | 17:25 |
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| docaedo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackAppsCommunity | 17:26 |
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| docaedo | and two email threads on the subject: | 17:26 |
| docaedo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2016-May/000854.html | 17:26 |
| docaedo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095917.html | 17:26 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: thank you, Chris! | 17:26 |
| docaedo | There's a LOT in this message, but I'm glad Igor kicked off this conversation | 17:27 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: what piece of this do you want to start discussing? | 17:27 |
| igormarnat_ | so what do you think about the plan? Do you want to discuss it in general in some more details or just to switch to the very first item from the plan? | 17:27 |
| igormarnat_ | I'd discuss about repositories | 17:27 |
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| igormarnat_ | This part | 17:27 |
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| igormarnat_ | - Introduce label openstack-apps, put repositories with source code of OpenStack Apps under it, i.e.: | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | * http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-apps/murano-apps | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | * http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-apps/heat-templates | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | * http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-apps/tosca-workflows | 17:28 |
| docaedo | I would say before repositories we need to work out what the testing would look like - otherwise there's not a lot of reason for the repositories to exist, or at least no reason to use those over your own github repo | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | there are people coming and asking how and where to put source code of their apps, besides Murano team would also like to split the repos | 17:28 |
| docaedo | I'm +1 for Murano then, especially if people are already asking for it | 17:28 |
| igormarnat_ | Well, the testing depends on project. For murano we started working on CI for apps | 17:29 |
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| docaedo | I haven't seen anyone ask for it from Heat side - in fact I even suggested this over a year ago and basically heat team said "no way, we already have examples!" | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'm +1 for the openstack-apps, but I'm not 100% sold on the single repository for all the murano-apps in the openstack | 17:29 |
| igormarnat_ | final goal is to have automated pipeline which allows to automatically publish apps to the catalog | 17:29 |
| igormarnat_ | but for now - just non-voting jobs based on third-party CI | 17:30 |
| igormarnat_ | So yeah, getting back to repositories | 17:30 |
| igormarnat_ | there are many apps in openstack/murano-apps which are now part of responsibility of core murano team | 17:30 |
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| docaedo | whos responsibility will they be in openstack-apps/murano-apps? | 17:31 |
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| igormarnat_ | and we'd like to move existing murano-apps to somewhere else (ideally - under openstack-apps label) and to leave it up to murano team to deal with their examples, they'll figure it out | 17:31 |
| igormarnat_ | we are ready to introduce murano-apps team:) | 17:31 |
| kzaitsev_mb | exactly this — it doesn't solve the problem of ownership | 17:31 |
| igormarnat_ | murano-apps is gonna be the owner | 17:31 |
| docaedo | who will be the members for murano-apps? | 17:32 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: my question is — how would it scale when you would have, say 100 apps in that repository? | 17:32 |
| igormarnat_ | for now several core members of murano team and several new folks from our team who works on CI/CD app for murano, gerrit app, jenkins, ... | 17:32 |
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| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: the thing is that however it will scale, it will scale better than now when it's responsibility of murano team, right? | 17:33 |
| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: why not allow a repository per-app, to allow every app developer have their own team, speed, etc? | 17:34 |
| kzaitsev_mb | We should just make it easy to register this kind of teams | 17:34 |
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| docaedo | I think it's good to be clear at this point what this represents - it's a new repository to host murano apps (i.e. the gating/CI/CD stuff is for later, and will be dealt with separately) | 17:34 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: docaedo nothing prevent us just to copy all the murano team to murano-apps team for beginning and then membership will be polished/elaborated using usual openstack approach based on their activity | 17:35 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: I'm basically on board and in support of this plan | 17:35 |
| docaedo | just want to be really specific as we step through this, and start getting to the more complicated things later | 17:35 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: you make a good point about separate repos - | 17:35 |
| igormarnat_ | it's a new repository to host murano apps, right. Owner can be newly created murano-apps team, who'll consist from the very beginning from exact copy of murano team + several new members | 17:36 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: if I create an app, I'd prefer it to live in my own github repo where users can report issues, see updates, etc. | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | agree with the github example | 17:36 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: docaedo ah, yes, this is what I meant, sorry, folks | 17:36 |
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| docaedo | igormarnat_: no need to apologize :) I'm just also anticipating the parts we'll have to be really clear about with the repo request, etc., expecting some similar questions | 17:37 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: docaedo well, probably I'm confused now, yep. From one side it's good to have murano-apps team who owns several repositories they work on | 17:37 |
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| igormarnat_ | docaedo: kzaitsev_mb on the other hand repo per app is good thing to have, some apps are very complicated | 17:38 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I understand that it is currently super-hard to add a new repo to openstack-space, and a single repo for all the murano-apps is a workaround | 17:38 |
| docaedo | BTW maybe Murano team should think about this again? | 17:38 |
| docaedo | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/download-package-from-git | 17:38 |
| kzaitsev_mb | but let's at least take a look at the root problem and see if we can fix that (i.e. allow adding new repositories in a click or two)? | 17:38 |
| * olaph likes the git idea | 17:39 | |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: kzaitsev_mb I think I now understand it. We might want to copy all the existing repositories under label openstack-apps/murano-apps which is just the label, assign newly created murano-apps team as an owner for each of them (as they are owned by murano team anyways) | 17:39 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: I don't think that adding dozens or hundreds of new repos is a thing the infra team wants to own | 17:39 |
| kraynevs | docaedo: I suppose, that have one core team - murano-apps make sense on the start, because we need to give users normal review from guys with expertise in this area | 17:39 |
| kraynevs | and this group may have right for +2 on all repos | 17:40 |
| kraynevs | but then.. | 17:40 |
| igormarnat_ | And then to add new repositories under openstack-apps/murano-apps on per project basis and discuss each time which team owns new repo | 17:40 |
| kzaitsev_mb | kraynevs: good point | 17:40 |
| kraynevs | you are right it should be separate teams with same rules like in main Openstack community | 17:40 |
| kraynevs | when we nominate new guys to core-team | 17:40 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: I think the git thing could be done on the client-side more or less easily =) | 17:40 |
| docaedo | I'm not so much in support of endless repositories, most of which will eventually be abandoned... | 17:40 |
| kraynevs | but on the start we need support new comers | 17:40 |
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| docaedo | but that is an important question we'd need to get support from the infra team and/or TC | 17:41 |
| docaedo | ("that" being "as many repos as anyone wants, so every app gets its own repo") | 17:41 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: well, github/bitbucket are more or less ok with hundreds of abandoned repositories, but those are commercial projects after all | 17:42 |
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| kraynevs | docaedo: excuse me, but what do you meant by "supporting endless repositories"? | 17:42 |
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| igormarnat_ | nothing prevent people from using their repositories if they want, but if they'll create them under openstack-apps/murano-apps, they'll be part of some community. They'll get support from it but in return they should contribute back by reviewing and writing code. Again, if someone want to create his repo outside - it's ok, but he'll not be reviewed than | 17:42 |
| kraynevs | I suppose, that in community nobody except core-team do not support repo..... | 17:42 |
| kraynevs | docaedo: I just try to understand what kind of supporting do you mean | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I think I'm ok with agreeing to have single repo as step1, but we should probably get infra folks involved, they might have some insight | 17:43 |
| docaedo | kraynevs: I mean that every new repository comes with some administrative cost from the openstack-infra team | 17:43 |
| docaedo | kraynevs: and this proposal is "1 repo for now, many many repos later - as many repos as we have devs or apps" | 17:44 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: docaedo why not to suggest single repo/single team for beginning | 17:44 |
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| igormarnat_ | and then we'll figure it out with infra team as well | 17:44 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: kraynevs: exactly, after all they "own" the metadata about the repos | 17:44 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: I'm fine with one repo, but if the longer term intention is more repos under that, we need to be clear at the beginning that that's the long term expectation | 17:44 |
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| igormarnat_ | so, guys, are you ok with requesting tc/infra team to move existing openstack/murano-apps to openstack-apps/murano-apps, create new team murano-apps and assign it as an owner of this repo? | 17:45 |
| docaedo | I'm +1 on that | 17:46 |
| igormarnat_ | long term approach is to be discussed further with Infra team, tc and openstack-dev community (if anyone is interested:) ) | 17:46 |
| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: I'm not ok with moving all the apps there | 17:46 |
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| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: do your corrections than | 17:46 |
| clarkb | fwiw I think we don't want any new "namespaces" on the gerrit server | 17:47 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: I'd rather have murano-apps renamed into murano-examples and transfer apps on per-app basis | 17:47 |
| clarkb | if it were easier to remove openstack-dev it would be gone already | 17:47 |
| kzaitsev_mb | i.e. there is a number of apps, that have little value really | 17:47 |
| kraynevs | docaedo: oh. you talk about supporting it as it do infra team... yeah. it's pain. | 17:47 |
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| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: I don't see much difference in move all the murano-apps first and then to recreate murano-examples in Murano by Murano team, but ... I don't have strong opinion here | 17:47 |
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| igormarnat_ | clarkb: but it would be good to separate code which constitutes core openstack services from the code which is not openstack code but is openstack applications, isn't it? | 17:48 |
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| docaedo | kraynevs: correct - that's what I'm sensitive to, our infra team is small and overworked :) | 17:49 |
| clarkb | no, that namespacing has no real purpose | 17:49 |
| igormarnat_ | clarkb: labels openstack and openstack-apps would allow to do it, but other ideas are welcome | 17:49 |
| clarkb | it only causes confusion and special casing in tooling and so on | 17:49 |
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| igormarnat_ | well, than we just can move murano-apps outside of murano, w/o introducing openstack-apps label, as an option. Key thing for me is to move it outside of responsibility of core murano team | 17:50 |
| docaedo | it sounds like kzaitsev_mb is not entirely in support of moving all the apps out though? | 17:51 |
| kzaitsev_mb | igormarnat_: well, I'm ok with moving apps (and thus shifting some of the responsibility from myself and the team =)), just want to be a bit carefull here. you might be right and just moving all the apps is ok | 17:51 |
| igormarnat_ | Here is the suggestion then: move murano-apps outside of murano, make it top-level repository, assign newly created murano-apps team an owner, ask murano team to figure out exact way they want to transfer source code from murano/murano-apps to murano-apps outside of it. Would they work? | 17:51 |
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| docaedo | also sounds like we're talking about two things at the same time - 1) getting apps out of the main murano repo and 2) making a space where new murano app developers can work on stuff .. | 17:52 |
| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: I just have to give it a bit of thought =) We've been wanting to clean-up some of the example apps, that have little value | 17:52 |
| igormarnat_ | kzaitsev_mb: docaedo clarkb ? | 17:52 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: I would support that if it's got buy in from murano - but in this case, really has nothing to do with me since I'm not a murano core or anything | 17:53 |
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| igormarnat_ | docaedo: we can agree on it between ourselves as initial suggestion and then get agreement with infra team and murano team by email | 17:54 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: sure - from the "clean place to work on murano apps" perspective, it makes sense to me | 17:54 |
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| igormarnat_ | Ok, let's agree on this suggestion, I can shoot an email with it to infra team and murano afterwards | 17:55 |
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| docaedo | #action igormarnat_ to send an email to infra and murano teams re: moving apps in murano repo to new top level repo | 17:56 |
| docaedo | now it's official! | 17:56 |
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| igormarnat_ | docaedo: thank you, sir! :) | 17:56 |
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| igormarnat_ | docaedo: we are running out of time, let's make the first step with murano apps | 17:57 |
| docaedo | and we're almost out of time - but thanks igormarnat_ for bringing this up, and looking forward to carrying this conversation forward in the weeks to come | 17:57 |
| docaedo | hah yes | 17:57 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: and meanwhile hopefully heat team and other teams will say something in email | 17:57 |
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| igormarnat_ | thanks all! | 17:58 |
| docaedo | that would be nice - we can talk some next week (or else on #openstack-app-catalog) about what we would need for testing | 17:58 |
| docaedo | because it basically needs a stable cloud without access to admin control plane, to test any of these things | 17:58 |
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| docaedo | or else SLOW path, stand up all in one devstack node for the test | 17:58 |
| docaedo | I am out next week, but will work through agenda and stuff on the mailing list | 17:59 |
| docaedo | thanks everyone! | 17:59 |
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| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 26 17:59:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-05-26-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: thank you! | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-05-26-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-05-26-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
| olaph | docaedo: thank you! | 17:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro igordcard hemanthravi: hi | 18:00 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 18:00 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:00 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: hi all | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: do you expect any one else from your team to join the meeting today? | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 26 18:01:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
| hemanthravi | jagadish should be joinging in a mi | 18:01 |
| hemanthravi | n | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#May_26th.2C_2016 | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i had the date wrong on the wiki page, just corrected it | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Bugs | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:03 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | i did not notice anything critical/high being reported | 18:03 |
| ivar-lazzaro | everything works! | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | there was a bug reported by songole about the same IP being allocated to a member when the member is associated with multiple groups | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: lol! | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | jagadish: hi | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | we kind of analyzed what is going on, but will let songole enter the bug first | 18:04 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: can a single member be associated to multiple groups? | 18:04 |
| * igordcard will be back in 3 minutes | 18:04 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: yes | 18:05 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | you mean PT? | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: not PT, member | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: one PT per groups | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *group | 18:05 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | but the member has multiple PTs | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and each PT is a different group | 18:05 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: oh ok, that's the UI member | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: right | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the problem in this case is that the PTs belong to PTGs which belong to different L3Ps in different tenants, but they have the same ip_pool | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which they are getting by default | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and hence it leads to this issue | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyway | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | if there are no other high priority bugs to be discussed... | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Packaging | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Packaging (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:07 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: last week you mentioned “GBP integration into DeLorean” | 18:07 |
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| rkukura | right, but I’ve got no response to my queries on the status of this | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any update on that or anything else? | 18:08 |
| rkukura | so no update | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, do we need to consider escalating at this point, or you think we have more time on this? | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi | 18:08 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: hi! :) | 18:09 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: I’m not sure what’s driving the schedule for the RDO packaging, but the longer we wait, the less likely it is to ever happen | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, let me know if you need any help from me to push this forward, and/or we take this offline to discuss what our options are | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Tests | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tests (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:10 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | just a quick update from me | 18:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i have been trying to get the rally integration job to work for the past couple of days | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | our rally branch was woefully out of sync, and its taking some time to catch up with all hte changes that have happened | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: there? | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay may be we will discuss NFP first | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic NFP impl patches | 18:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NFP impl patches (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:12 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/gbp-network-services-framework | 18:12 |
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| igordcard | yep | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: jagadish and team thanks for updating the patches with the relevant co-authors | 18:12 |
| hemanthravi | i think gate test should also be running now | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ooops, lets get done with NFP, and we can circle back to your patch | 18:13 |
| hemanthravi | there are few more impl patches, will be submitted in a day or 2 | 18:13 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: sure, wasn't looking when you asked | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: the integration gate job is still broken starting from the first patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282292 | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: np, thanks for your patience | 18:14 |
| jagadish | Most of the review comments on base configurator and reference configurator will be submitted in a day | 18:14 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: how do i get the logs to this failure? | 18:14 |
| hemanthravi | dsvm-functional ? | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: yeah, just click on the job | 18:15 |
| hemanthravi | will take a look and resolve it | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i had already provided comments on what might be broken and what can probably fix it | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | see my comment on May 12th | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: jagadish: i believe there were plans to update this wiki page with more information about the patches: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GroupBasedPolicy/GerritQueries/NFP ? | 18:17 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: i'm behind on updating the wiki page, will do this | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay thanks | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: when you said the gate job is working, what were you referring to? | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: i am referring to your earlier comment “i think gate test should also be running now” (since we did not get a chance to discuss that) | 18:19 |
| hemanthravi | don't have the details, but i was told one of the nfp tests ran as part of the gate. I'll confirm this tonight | 18:19 |
| jagadish | SumitNaiksatam: The nfp node driver has been pointed in the configuration for the gate tests to run nfp functionality tests. | 18:20 |
| hemanthravi | to run haproxy in namesapce | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | jagadish: but the integration job is broken for all the patches and the issue is in the first patch in the chain itself | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | jagadish: also, which patch are you referring to? | 18:21 |
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| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: will check on this tonight | 18:22 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: will check on this tonight | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: okay, my understanding is that we are not replacing any of the current integration tests, we are adding new ones | 18:23 |
| jagadish | SumitNaiksatam: Yes. The current ones are not replaced. New ones are added. | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | jagadish: okay good, just wanted to confirm | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: jagadish: at this point are there any blockers for you? | 18:24 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | perhaps not :-) | 18:25 |
| hemanthravi | not a blocker, but the gate tests had to be done without using the plugin but gbp-patch | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: sorry, didnt get that? | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | gbp-patch? | 18:26 |
| hemanthravi | the gate tests don't using the devstack plugin but the earlier gbp-patch.sh | 18:26 |
| hemanthravi | is that correct? | 18:26 |
| jagadish | SumitNaiksatam: Gate tests are done using GBP patch | 18:26 |
| jagadish | They don't have devstack plugin support | 18:26 |
| hemanthravi | i think this can be addressed later, once we have the nfp gate tests passing | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: jagadish: yes they dont use the devstack plugin, that is expected | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: thats not a problem at all | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: yeah we can address that later | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: jagadish: all the devstack artifacts for the gate tests are contained here: #link https://github.com/openstack/group-based-policy/tree/master/gbpservice/tests/contrib | 18:28 |
| hemanthravi | ok | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: jagadish: i believe you are referring to the patching be done here: #link https://github.com/openstack/group-based-policy/blob/master/gbpservice/tests/contrib/functions-gbp ? | 18:29 |
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| jagadish | SumitNaiksatam: Yes | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else in the team have questions for hemanthravi and jagadish on NFP patches? | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | jagadish: okay good | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: jagadish : thanks for the update | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic GBP QoS Support | 18:30 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301701/ | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | just to refresh people’s memories we had merged the spec: #link https://github.com/openstack/group-based-policy-specs/blob/master/specs/mitaka/initial-qos-support.rst | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and igordcard had proceeded to do the implementation in the feature/qos branch | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks for your work | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone got a chance to review the implementation? | 18:32 |
| rkukura | I started | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: great, thanks | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i put some preliminary comments | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nothing major though | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | as long as we are fine the approach (which is stated in the merged spec), i think the implementation is pretty straightforward | 18:33 |
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| igordcard | thanks, I'll address them | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so IMHO, its really the approach that we are validating there | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: ivar-lazzaro: it will be helpful if you guys can take a quick look as well | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: +1 | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: okay cool | 18:34 |
| hemanthravi | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: thanks | 18:35 |
| igordcard | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro hemanthravi thanks | 18:35 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: at this point, my understanding is that is a functional implementation, so you are kind of “done” with your implementation for this first iteration? | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *that this is a functional implementation | 18:36 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Are we not planning to merge this implementation, assuming we are all happy with it? | 18:37 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: do you mean if PoC 01 is the end of it? | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i agree | 18:37 |
| rkukura | SumitNaiksatam: Are you agreeing that we should merge it? | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: i meant to ask, if PoC 01 is complete, and/or there are any blockers? | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: if we are fine with the approack we should merge it | 18:38 |
| rkukura | I agree | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but i think you are asking if we should merge it to master from the feature branch? | 18:38 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: oh ok, so the patch only adds support for maxrate as a first iteration | 18:38 |
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| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: maybe, if it is to be merged to master instead of feature/branch, more work should be done to at least support burstrate as well | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: i agree | 18:39 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: but still the same style, as in inner-PTG QoS only | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: were you planning to add burst rate as PoC 2 patch? | 18:39 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: planning to add still to PoC 1 after an initial wave of review since the architecture wouldn't change but I still had to invest a bit of time to make sure both *rates would coexist peacefully | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ah okay | 18:40 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: I will add a note about that | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i think this is a question for the team - but in my opinion, if we are all fine with this approach, then we can merge the current patch to master, and then have igordcard post the burst rate changes directly to master | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is of course after igordcard himself is comfortable that “both *rates would coexist peacefully” | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we are using the feature branch to validate the approach, after that i dont think the overhead of the branch is required | 18:42 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: yeah, but for master I'd prefer to add max and burst together in the same patch | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: ah okay, so in that case we can merge this patch into the feature/qos branch (after reviews are complete) and wait for you to post the updates for burst rate | 18:43 |
| igordcard | SumitNaiksatam: okay | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: thanks for the update and the work | 18:44 |
| igordcard | ;) | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | any other questions for igordcard ? | 18:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:45 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything we missed for today’s meeting? | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if not, we can get 15 mins back :-) | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty, thanks all for joining (igordcard for staying up late ;-)) | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 26 18:46:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-05-26-18.01.html | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-05-26-18.01.txt | 18:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-05-26-18.01.log.html | 18:46 |
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| igordcard | bye | 18:46 |
| ivar-lazzaro | bye | 18:47 |
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| shamail | #startmeeting nonatc | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 26 19:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nonatc' | 19:00 |
| shamail | Hi everyone | 19:00 |
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| dabukalam | hui | 19:00 |
| MeganR | Hi | 19:00 |
| maishsk | o/ | 19:00 |
| shamail | hi dabukalam, MeganR, and maishsk! | 19:00 |
| shamail | #chair maishsk | 19:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: maishsk shamail | 19:01 |
| maishsk | Sorry about last week - I was on a plane | 19:01 |
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| shamail | today’s agenda: | 19:01 |
| shamail | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NonATCRecognition#Meeting_Information | 19:01 |
| dc_mattj | hello | 19:01 |
| shamail | np maishsk and dabukalam | 19:01 |
| dabukalam | dc_mattj: hi! | 19:01 |
| dc_mattj | sorry was lurking elsewhere | 19:01 |
| shamail | hi dc_mattj | 19:01 |
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| shamail | #topic UC Charter Progress | 19:02 |
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| shamail | Edgar presented a draft charter for the User Committee earlier this week in the user-committee meeting. | 19:02 |
| shamail | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QmLOeseAkjBWM_TXsUeKBErNaSHnuZp81II0T71ARfo/edit?usp=sharing | 19:02 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, slightly better turnout than last time | 19:02 |
| dc_mattj | ;) | 19:02 |
| shamail | a bit dc_mattj! | 19:02 |
| shamail | The UC is still looking for feedback so please add comments in the doc as you see fit. | 19:03 |
| dc_mattj | looks great | 19:03 |
| shamail | Specifically related to this WG, they have included the roles/activities from our milestone-2 read-out | 19:04 |
| maishsk | shamail: leave feedback here / or on the doc? | 19:04 |
| shamail | maishsk: on the doc | 19:04 |
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| shamail | I agree dc_mattj, it’s coming together well. | 19:04 |
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| shamail | One of the items they will revisit in the near-term future are AUC benefits/rights but they have already included how to become a consitituent which is a great starting point. | 19:05 |
| shamail | Any questions on this topic? I wanted to share with everyone in case you missed it earlier in the week | 19:06 |
| shamail | #topic WG name change | 19:06 |
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| maishsk | none from me | 19:07 |
| shamail | On a related note, I wanted to propose changing the WG name to “AUC Recognition WG” from “Non-ATC Recognition WG” since we have the designation identified in the charter | 19:07 |
| dabukalam | shamail: that would make me very happy | 19:07 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, +1 | 19:07 |
| MeganR | +1 | 19:07 |
| maishsk | I for one am really for this - at the time the only thing we had was non-ATC (which has a negative sound to it) | 19:07 |
| maishsk | so a +1 from me | 19:08 |
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| shamail | #agree WG will be renamed to AUC (Active User Contributor) Recognition WG | 19:08 |
| shamail | It feels good to get rid of the negative sounding name :) | 19:08 |
| maishsk | And so the AUC is born !! :) | 19:09 |
| maishsk | Mazel Tov! | 19:09 |
| shamail | #action shamail will update wiki, eavesdrop, etc. to rename WG from Non-ATC to AUC | 19:09 |
| * shamail cheers | 19:09 | |
| shamail | #topic Review milestone-3 action item status | 19:09 |
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| shamail | The next item is to review progress on identifying metrics (and capturing them) for various consitituency roles | 19:10 |
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| shamail | We will just go in order based on the agenda | 19:10 |
| * maishsk goes and hides in a corner | 19:10 | |
| shamail | lol | 19:10 |
| shamail | Metrics for user group organizers (shamail) | 19:11 |
| maishsk | (I have not followed up on any of my AI’s) | 19:11 |
| dc_mattj | so for user groups this is now a solved problem right ? | 19:11 |
| dc_mattj | since things have moved forward with the 'official' groups ? | 19:11 |
| shamail | I spoke with fifieldT and he said the the user group oragnizers and contributors can not be queried via API at this point in time | 19:12 |
| dabukalam | right, are we doing just official groups, or official groups that have been active in the last 6 months. ISTR discussion of activity as well? | 19:12 |
| shamail | therefore I will get a list from him (for this cycle) once we are ready | 19:12 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: I did not know that, can you please tell us more? | 19:12 |
| shamail | They have defined the “official” ones now? | 19:13 |
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| dabukalam | the foundation has designated a few of the 100 or so groups as official based on various metrics and goals meetups should strive to deliver on | 19:13 |
| dc_mattj | what he said ^ | 19:13 |
| dabukalam | https://groups.openstack.org/groups in that list all the groups highlighted red | 19:13 |
| maishsk | dabukalam: how was that designation decided? | 19:14 |
| dabukalam | you can also select using the filters on the left | 19:14 |
| * dabukalam finds link | 19:14 | |
| shamail | thanks dabukalam and dc_mattj | 19:14 |
| shamail | Based on that, we would only recognize 12 user groups? | 19:14 |
| dabukalam | maishsk: https://groups.openstack.org/official-group-process is the current criteria I believe | 19:14 |
| dc_mattj | again what he said ^ | 19:15 |
| dabukalam | shamail: It depends, many groups just have little niggly bits they have to fix to become official, so I expect more and more to become official this cycle now that it's been announced | 19:15 |
| shamail | I think for this cycle we should stay with including all groups since the criteria for official groups was just defined | 19:15 |
| dc_mattj | I think basically this was supposed to be driven by the ambassadors, and it's taken a while | 19:15 |
| maishsk | shamail: so how do get to 12 users groups? | 19:15 |
| shamail | and then we can define it as official group in the next few cycles? | 19:15 |
| dc_mattj | more and more of them will hopefully sort it out now | 19:16 |
| shamail | go to groups.openstack.org, click on groups at the top, and then filter on “official groups” | 19:16 |
| dabukalam | shamail: I don't think that will help with encouraging usergroups to follow official process | 19:16 |
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| shamail | For example, I didn’t see Manchester on there :[ | 19:16 |
| dabukalam | part of the reason for this announcement was to try to force the community to follow official openstack guidelines rather than doing a bunch of random stuff and calling it "an openstack meetup" | 19:16 |
| dabukalam | shamail: it is there! | 19:16 |
| dc_mattj | we are one of them | 19:16 |
| shamail | hmm | 19:16 |
| dc_mattj | one of the first ones | 19:17 |
| shamail | under official? | 19:17 |
| maishsk | And I dont see the Israel one there either | 19:17 |
| shamail | I must be sorting incorrectly | 19:17 |
| dc_mattj | tick the official box | 19:17 |
| dc_mattj | then you get the list | 19:17 |
| shamail | #link https://groups.openstack.org/groups?status[]=official | 19:17 |
| dc_mattj | indeed | 19:17 |
| shamail | Oh, interesting.. | 19:17 |
| shamail | Manchester did not show up for me | 19:17 |
| shamail | When I ran the search for Europe + Official | 19:18 |
| shamail | then it did | 19:18 |
| shamail | Now its refreshed | 19:18 |
| shamail | and shows up properly on the main page for me | 19:18 |
| shamail | I guess I will ensure that I validate the list I see with Tom for official WGs | 19:18 |
| shamail | maishsk: I don’t see Israel there either | 19:19 |
| maishsk | It is not an official | 19:19 |
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| shamail | Anyway, so do we believe that now that we have criteria for official that we should start supporting official starting with this cycle? | 19:19 |
| dc_mattj | +1 | 19:19 |
| dabukalam | yes | 19:19 |
| dc_mattj | there is clear guidance and process on how to do that | 19:19 |
| MeganR | yes | 19:20 |
| maishsk | The criteria are there - I just hope there are enough ambassadors around to cope with all the groups | 19:20 |
| shamail | #agree Change criteria to “official user groups” | 19:20 |
| maishsk | +1 | 19:20 |
| shamail | Okay, next one: | 19:20 |
| shamail | Metrics for WG participants (MeganR) | 19:20 |
| MeganR | Sorry, I don't have an update - will for next week. | 19:21 |
| shamail | Okay, thanks | 19:21 |
| shamail | Metrics for Ops meetup moderators (maishsk) | 19:21 |
| dc_mattj | didn't we talk about using IRC stats ? | 19:21 |
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| dc_mattj | for WG | 19:21 |
| MeganR | not all WGs use IRC | 19:21 |
| shamail | We did dc_mattj along with finding which WGs dont use IRC or how to account for them | 19:21 |
| maishsk | no update on my AI’s - sorry | 19:21 |
| shamail | MeganR: You can also use https://github.com/openstack/uc-recognition/blob/master/tools/get_active_wg_members.py as a starting point for the ones that do use IRC. | 19:22 |
| shamail | Thanks maishsk | 19:22 |
| shamail | Metrics for repository commits under UC governance (dabukalam) | 19:22 |
| dc_mattj | Ops meetup moderators is fairly easy given there aren't many of them, it's currently difficult to do this automagically but we could easily do it manually | 19:22 |
| MeganR | shamail: thank you! | 19:22 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: +1 | 19:22 |
| maishsk | dc_mattj: +1 | 19:22 |
| dc_mattj | I'm in the WG for Ops Meetups and we can talk about how to make that data available | 19:23 |
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| dabukalam | shamail: so I think that one is relatively easy - base it off queried git commits, and decide whether one commit is enough or a certain x commits is required similar to the decision the TC made recently about ATC | 19:23 |
| dc_mattj | currently it's a spreadsheet ;) | 19:23 |
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| shamail | That spreadsheet has lived on for generations of ops meetups, don’t change it!! (JK) | 19:23 |
| dabukalam | I can't see many people submitting typos for recognition to the uc gov repo similar to how people get ATC currently, but who knows | 19:24 |
| shamail | dabukalam: +1 that is reasonable | 19:24 |
| maishsk | dabukalam: What decision was that? | 19:24 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, :) | 19:24 |
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| shamail | I think you are right on the lower volume too dabukalam… therefore we might need to consider a lower required commit count | 19:25 |
| shamail | lower than what ATC uses | 19:25 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, +1 | 19:25 |
| dc_mattj | we want operators to contribute, and often it's far too easy to write stuff for you own env | 19:26 |
| shamail | Also dabukalam, check this script out: https://github.com/openstack/uc-recognition/blob/master/tools/get_active_commiters.py | 19:26 |
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| dabukalam | maishsk: I think a typo patch into openstack no longer gets you a free summit pass | 19:26 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: +1 | 19:26 |
| maishsk | dabukalam: when was that decided? | 19:26 |
| shamail | I think the criteria is commits in two consecutive cycles will give you ATC | 19:27 |
| shamail | ATC does not automatically qualify you for a free ticket | 19:27 |
| shamail | I think that is the direction | 19:27 |
| maishsk | shamail: that I knew was coming - but when was the ATC criteria changed? | 19:27 |
| dabukalam | maishsk: the discussion at the board meeting was along the lines of, "we currently have 1200 active developers, but 2000 ATCs | 19:27 |
| shamail | maishsk: not sure exactly when it was changed | 19:28 |
| dabukalam | maishsk: I fail to remember if an action was taken there and then or was deferred | 19:28 |
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| shamail | dabukalam: the UC repo commits will be more than typos… it will be people contributing to OSOps, submitting user stories to the Product WG, etc. | 19:29 |
| dc_mattj | can I suggest we don't rathole on this too much | 19:29 |
| shamail | I am hopeful we will see a good count | 19:29 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: +1 | 19:29 |
| dc_mattj | the criteria for AUC is different | 19:29 |
| dc_mattj | we want ops to contribute code | 19:29 |
| dc_mattj | and since the code base is currently so small it would be hard to get away with a typo fix | 19:29 |
| dc_mattj | so slightly irrelevant | 19:29 |
| shamail | Anythign else on this one dabukalam? | 19:30 |
| dc_mattj | even a tiny bash script is a precious jewel at the minute ;) | 19:30 |
| dabukalam | nope, relatively simple | 19:30 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: :] | 19:30 |
| shamail | next one... | 19:30 |
| shamail | Metrics for summit track chairs (dabukalam) | 19:30 |
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| dc_mattj | ooh interesting | 19:30 |
| dc_mattj | I missed the last meeting | 19:30 |
| dc_mattj | so what's the metric here dabukalam ? | 19:31 |
| dabukalam | so that's easy. anyone that's a track chair should be AUC - the summit before last they were listed on the track-chairs mailing list, last summit it was in an etherpad | 19:31 |
| dabukalam | so we need to consolidate that info and get it to be in a central location that can be grepped | 19:31 |
| shamail | dabukalam: I am not opposed to the criteria but should we specify all or certain tracks (not just operators only but a list)? | 19:31 |
| dc_mattj | there's a track chair app, so we already have access to that info | 19:31 |
| dc_mattj | from a metric perspective | 19:31 |
| dabukalam | dc_mattj: ah yes, forgot about that | 19:32 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: +1 | 19:32 |
| dabukalam | dc_mattj: unfair, you've been a track chair before :P | 19:32 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, all track chairs should get this automatically, although almost all of them are probably ATC anyway | 19:32 |
| dc_mattj | ;) | 19:32 |
| shamail | dabukalam and dc_mattj: The foundation also creates a mailing list for track chairs | 19:32 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, indeed | 19:32 |
| shamail | so we could also just ask them for member list for the mailing list | 19:32 |
| maishsk | shamail - would we limit to certain tracks | 19:32 |
| maishsk | *why would | 19:32 |
| dabukalam | I don't see why we would limit to certain tracks, anyone that's taking the time to be a track chair is contributing positively in my view | 19:33 |
| shamail | ah ok, I was curious | 19:33 |
| dc_mattj | track chairs need to have a massively wide understanding of the commercial and technical landscape to be able to make judgements on presentations | 19:33 |
| shamail | there are certain tracks that usually have more WG/users as track chairs (case studies, enterprise tracks, operators, community) | 19:33 |
| dc_mattj | this is a no-brainer, and there's much smarter track chairs than I am | 19:33 |
| shamail | I am perfectly fine with doing all track chairs, the workload is rather insane! | 19:34 |
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| shamail | I just wanted to bring up the option for discussion (in case we are asked by anyone else) | 19:34 |
| MeganR | will we compare our list with the ATC list and then remove those that have an ATC designation? | 19:34 |
| shamail | MeganR: Nope | 19:34 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, and not just the workload, it's also more about understanding the field, it's not a box ticking exercise | 19:34 |
| shamail | A person could be both AUC and ATC | 19:34 |
| maishsk | shamail: +1 | 19:35 |
| MeganR | shamail: just what I was about to ask - thank you! | 19:35 |
| shamail | MeganR: np! | 19:35 |
| dc_mattj | MeganR, I thought it was quite nice at this Summit that people could have Ops and ATC for example | 19:35 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: Agreed! | 19:35 |
| MeganR | totally agree! | 19:35 |
| carolbarrett | +1 | 19:36 |
| MeganR | I like the all around recognition | 19:36 |
| shamail | So, yeah, the possible sources of this data could be going through track chair app or mailing list membership | 19:36 |
| shamail | anything else on this one dabukalam? | 19:36 |
| dabukalam | nope! | 19:36 |
| shamail | Thanks! | 19:36 |
| shamail | Metrics for Superuser/SuperuserTV contributors (maishsk) | 19:36 |
| maishsk | and again - no update :( | 19:37 |
| shamail | maishsk: for this one, I would recommend contacting Nicole and Allison from the OpenStack Foundation | 19:37 |
| dabukalam | specifically Nicole | 19:37 |
| shamail | Allison runs SuperuserTV | 19:37 |
| shamail | so both would be ideal | 19:37 |
| maishsk | shamail: if someone would please send their email addresses over - I would be happy to follow up | 19:37 |
| dabukalam | shamail: ah ok | 19:37 |
| shamail | maishsk: sounds good | 19:38 |
| dc_mattj | tbd it is a difficult one because it puts Nicole/Allison in a position of making a value judgement | 19:38 |
| dc_mattj | which kind of isn't their job | 19:38 |
| shamail | I had spoken with them briefly about this in Austin and it might be a list they have to provide you (so automation might not be possible) | 19:38 |
| dc_mattj | I did also a little bit | 19:38 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: good point.. We should define the criteria and ask them for those who meet it | 19:39 |
| dc_mattj | as I said before though, I think that's one of those things where actually folks will have likely fallen into multiple other categories before they reach this one | 19:39 |
| shamail | Unfortunately, there is no optimal way externally to get this data… API or even a list… on their end, they have a database | 19:39 |
| dc_mattj | and I suspect we'll end up removing that from the list | 19:39 |
| dc_mattj | in the long run | 19:40 |
| dc_mattj | I added to the doc that I don't believe being interviewed is the same as creating content | 19:40 |
| shamail | maybe so but we probably should define criteria and get data for this round to validate the hypothesis | 19:40 |
| dc_mattj | and if I look back on content there I see a bunch of people who would already be recognised through other mean | 19:40 |
| dc_mattj | means | 19:40 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, +1 | 19:41 |
| shamail | I agree though, it might be the list if similar | 19:41 |
| shamail | and the effort question is an interesting one too (it’s why we dropped user survey) | 19:41 |
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| shamail | Thanks maishsk and dc_mattj | 19:42 |
| shamail | Next one is “Discuss "extra-AUC" (dabukalam)” | 19:42 |
| shamail | I think I had dropped off when we discussed this one in the meeting | 19:42 |
| dabukalam | right, so I have en example patch for extra-ATC, we could do it the same way | 19:42 |
| shamail | but I would like to propose differing this criteria discussion fo rnow | 19:42 |
| shamail | dabukalam: +1 | 19:42 |
| dc_mattj | I think you mean deferring | 19:43 |
| * dabukalam wondered that | 19:43 | |
| shamail | The reason I was asking if it is okay to differing is that milestone-4 is all about this topic | 19:43 |
| dc_mattj | which potentially has a different meaning than differing for most of us ;) | 19:43 |
| shamail | Milestone 4: Establish/identify review board for self-nominated members | 19:43 |
| shamail | postponed* | 19:43 |
| shamail | sorry | 19:43 |
| dc_mattj | although differing is an interest new verb | 19:43 |
| maishsk | shamail: +1 for deferring | 19:43 |
| shamail | Essentially, this topic will come up in milestone-4 | 19:43 |
| dabukalam | right | 19:44 |
| shamail | because I think we agree that we need “extra-AUC” but we would need to define a process around it (who can nominate, who reviews, etc.) | 19:44 |
| dc_mattj | +1 for differing which must somehow relate to diffs, but also +1 for deferrring | 19:44 |
| shamail | rofl | 19:44 |
| dabukalam | lol | 19:44 |
| shamail | dc_mattj will not let me live down that typo! | 19:44 |
| shamail | haha | 19:44 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, you also missed my extra r typo | 19:45 |
| dc_mattj | I'm equally guilty ;) | 19:45 |
| shamail | lol | 19:45 |
| maishsk | :) | 19:45 |
| shamail | So are you okay with this dabukalam? We originally decided to dedicate an entire milestone to this conversation in case we have DIFFERING opinions and topics that take us down rat-holes | 19:45 |
| dc_mattj | joking aside, I absolutely agree - out of all this stuff, probably that process is the one that needs a bit more definition around it | 19:46 |
| dabukalam | yup, agreed | 19:46 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: +1 | 19:46 |
| dc_mattj | shamail, liking the CAPITALISATION | 19:46 |
| * dabukalam will brb, arch linux has crashed and the only thing I can do is type into this window | 19:46 | |
| dabukalam | need to restart | 19:46 |
| shamail | Alrighty, next one (last one) | 19:46 |
| dc_mattj | note the deliberate use of the S ;) | 19:46 |
| shamail | sounds good dabukalam | 19:46 |
| dc_mattj | good meeting guys | 19:47 |
| shamail | I did take note dc_mattj | 19:47 |
| shamail | Metrics for active moderators on Ask OpenStack (shamail) | 19:47 |
| maishsk | ;) | 19:47 |
| dc_mattj | sorry - folks | 19:47 |
| maishsk | Every single one of this WG has been a good meeting | 19:47 |
| shamail | So Tom F has built an awesome script | 19:47 |
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| shamail | #link https://github.com/openstack/uc-recognition | 19:47 |
| dc_mattj | Anita has been teaching me about not using 'guys' ;) | 19:47 |
| shamail | This repo is our friend! | 19:48 |
| maishsk | especially with MeganR and carolbarrett around :) | 19:48 |
| shamail | #link https://github.com/openstack/uc-recognition/blob/master/tools/get_active_moderator.py | 19:48 |
| dc_mattj | indeed ;) | 19:48 |
| carolbarrett | :) | 19:48 |
| shamail | There is a script already there to look at Ask OpenStack moderator activity | 19:48 |
| MeganR | didn't notice till you said something :) | 19:48 |
| shamail | I don’t think we need to change much in it unless we want to increase or decrease the required karma level | 19:48 |
| maishsk | So I was thinking, since some of the info that we want to collect will be manual | 19:48 |
| maishsk | and through email and spreadhsheets | 19:49 |
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| dc_mattj | shamail, I think this group could do with understanding how we extract the track chairs from the track chairs app - one for the UC to ask the devs ? | 19:49 |
| maishsk | would this WG (or anyone who that care about the subject) prefer to have that info committed to this repo? | 19:49 |
| shamail | Right now, he AskOpenStack requires 200 karma and active for over 6 months | 19:49 |
| shamail | That’s all I have on Ask OpenStack Moderators for now… switching topics to open since we are arleady there :P | 19:50 |
| shamail | #topic opens | 19:50 |
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| maishsk | it would be a semi manual process - but at least once committed - the info can be pulled out and used | 19:50 |
| shamail | dc_mattj: I think that is a great idea | 19:50 |
| shamail | if we can scrap it from a public source then we can automate it eventually | 19:50 |
| shamail | maishsk: we should discuss where we compile the list… I have mixed feelings about the AUC members contact info being publicly available as a list | 19:51 |
| maishsk | shamail: point taken +1 | 19:51 |
| shamail | The criteria and automation tools are fine but, for example, the ATC list is not published either | 19:52 |
| dabukalam | it doesn't have to be contact info. It's quite common in open source projects to have a contributor list somewhere | 19:52 |
| dabukalam | in a git repo. I'm not suggesting that's the way to go, but it's not a bad thing to do if necessary | 19:52 |
| dabukalam | as long as it's just names | 19:52 |
| shamail | dabukalam: yep, we should figure out how ATC handles this | 19:52 |
| maishsk | shamail: I think the ATC is published | 19:53 |
| shamail | I’ll be glad to talk to the foundation to figure it out | 19:53 |
| shamail | maishsk: I’ll double-check and report back to our WG | 19:53 |
| shamail | #action shamail: determine if ATC membership information is published anywhere (and, if so, what is published about them) | 19:54 |
| shamail | by the way, welcome back dabukalam :) | 19:54 |
| dabukalam | thanks | 19:54 |
| shamail | That is all we had for today! | 19:54 |
| dabukalam | great | 19:54 |
| maishsk | thanks! | 19:54 |
| shamail | The meetings have been amazingly productive! | 19:54 |
| dabukalam | shamail: thanks for running this | 19:55 |
| maishsk | +100 | 19:55 |
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| shamail | Thanks for joining dabukalam! | 19:55 |
| shamail | Have a great day/evening | 19:55 |
| shamail | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
| maishsk | thanks all | 19:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 26 19:55:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nonatc/2016/nonatc.2016-05-26-19.00.html | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nonatc/2016/nonatc.2016-05-26-19.00.txt | 19:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nonatc/2016/nonatc.2016-05-26-19.00.log.html | 19:56 |
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