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milanmorning Ironic!06:34
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milandoes repo.tinycorelinux.net work for anyone? :-/07:17
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PaulMurrayLive migration meeting on #openstack-meeting-3 in a minute: PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco tdurakov andreas_s abhishekk diana_clarke13:58
* kashyap waves13:59
pkoniszewskiPaulMurray: wrong channel13:59
mdboothPaulMurray: Isn't it traditional to announce that in #openstack-nova?13:59
PaulMurraywell - you get the ping anyway13:59
pkoniszewski:D13:59
kashyapmdbooth: Yeah, I wondered too13:59
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kashyapOkay, PaulMurray righted the wrong.14:00
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PaulMurray#startmeeting Nova Live Migration14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  7 14:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration'14:00
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PaulMurrayAgenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration14:01
PaulMurrayI slightly changed the agenda 5 minutes ago14:01
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andrearosahi14:01
PaulMurray#topic Approved non-priority specs14:01
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PaulMurrayI thought it would be a good idea to quickly go over the approved specs14:02
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PaulMurray#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306561 Automatic Live Migration Completion (paul-carlton)14:02
PaulMurraypaul-carlton2, has a request for implementers for this14:02
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PaulMurrayluis5tb, did you want to be involved ?14:02
luis5tbYes, I'm happy to help with that!14:02
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pkoniszewskii can help too, as i have patch with flags up for review (abandoned right now as it was waiting for newer ubuntu in gate)14:03
* andrearosa is available as well14:03
PaulMurraydavidgiluk, were you just waving or volunteering?14:03
davidgilukPaulMurray: A bit of both; I don't know the innards of openstack but I'm happy to help from the qemu side if anyone gets stuck with the postcopy or similar14:04
PaulMurrayThe spec was a combination of luis5tb, paul-carlton2 and pkoniszewski specs I think, so makes sense for luis5tb and pkoniszewski to lead it I think14:05
PaulMurraydid I get that right ?14:05
pkoniszewskiyeah, we can go that way i think14:05
PaulMurrayandrearosa, is ready to help14:05
PaulMurrayso please get together and organise as you see fit14:05
PaulMurraynext14:06
PaulMurray#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307131 Live Migration of Rescued Instances (paul-carlton)14:06
PaulMurrayI think you have this pretty much done paul-carlton2 ?14:06
paul-carlton2Yep, first part of implementation is ready for review https://review.openstack.org/30819814:07
PaulMurraythis is in the reviews section on the agendahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/30819814:07
PaulMurrayoops14:07
paul-carlton2I need to do a tempest test and implement xenAPI driver too14:07
PaulMurray#link rescue patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30819814:07
PaulMurraygood - thanks14:07
PaulMurray#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283421/: Modify live_migration API response content (eliqiao)14:08
PaulMurrayeliqiao, are you set for that one ?14:08
PaulMurrayI see alex_xu  is the primary on that spec14:09
tdurakovPaulMurray: I thought it just update for implemented spec, no?14:09
PaulMurrayah -oops14:09
PaulMurrayyes thanks, I knew there was one of those14:09
PaulMurrayI got my list mixed up - ignore14:09
PaulMurray#undo14:09
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7fe237707ad0>14:09
PaulMurray#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296408/: Re-Proposes to check destination on migrations (bauzas)14:10
alex_xuyea, it is a update14:10
PaulMurrayI will catch up with bauzas later - I expect this is being tracked under scheduler14:10
bauzasPaulMurray: it's now implemented and merged14:10
bauzasPaulMurray: it's just missing the novaclient changes, that's it14:11
PaulMurraycool - thanks - I'll mark that down as lm sub group progress :)14:11
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PaulMurraybauzas, do you need any help with that ?14:11
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bauzasPaulMurray: nope, it's fine :)14:12
bauzasI should upload the changes by the end of this week14:12
PaulMurraygood, thank you14:12
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PaulMurray#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292271/: Remove compute-compute communication in live-migration (tdurakov)14:12
PaulMurrayand14:12
PaulMurrayhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/320416/: Make checks before live-migration async (tdurakov)14:12
PaulMurrayI think these go together ?14:12
PaulMurraytdurakov, how is it going ?14:13
tdurakovit's mine, first one is in progress, going to submit new patchset tommorow,  second one need some review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314932/14:13
PaulMurraygood - thanks14:13
PaulMurrayPlease put reviews on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking as you go and keep up to date14:14
tdurakovsure14:14
PaulMurrayThat's for everyone ^^^14:14
mriedembauzas: is there any way to test this in tempest? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318334/14:15
PaulMurrayAlso remember the FF is quite short for non-priority14:15
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PaulMurraySo please all help each other out with reviews14:15
mriedemwe can't test evacuate in the gate right now, but otherwise14:15
bauzasmriedem: well, testing evacuate in Tempest could be terrible, but maybe for live-migrate, yes14:15
bauzasmriedem: tbh, I don't know yet on how live-mig works good for Tempest in the gate14:16
mriedemit's just making sure the instance migrates to the host you specify right?14:16
bauzasyup14:16
mriedemalthough with a 2 node setup that doesn't test much14:16
mriedem:)14:16
mriedemok, nvm then. i just wanted to check before marking the bp complete.14:16
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PaulMurraySo, moving on14:17
PaulMurrayon the subject of...14:17
PaulMurray#topic CI14:17
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PaulMurraymriedem, to change an existing job to use raw instead of qcow214:17
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PaulMurraymriedem, ?14:17
mriedemPaulMurray: as noted in the agenda, that's hairier than i expected14:18
PaulMurray#info devstack change was shot down ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318262/ ) - need to use post-config in devstack-gate to set libvirt.images_type14:18
mriedemdevstack people want the config to happen via post-config in devstack-gate, which isn't really streamlined yet14:18
mriedemi haven't looked into devstack-gate yet to see if there is an easy way to hack that in14:18
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mriedemthere is like a 400+ LOC change to d-g to add post-config / local.conf support, but i don't have the stomach to review that14:19
mriedemmdbooth: have you been running the experimental queue on the refactor series to test with the lvm job?14:19
diana_clarkemriedem: we're running it now14:19
mriedemok, cool14:20
mriedemPaulMurray: so i wouldn't hold out hope for the raw backend job change anytime soon14:20
mriedemsince it's become less trivial14:20
PaulMurraydoes anyone know anything about that post-config stuff mriedem is talking about ^^14:20
PaulMurrayI have no idea14:20
mriedemsdague: and mtreinish would14:21
mriedemit's probably just a matter of asking around in -qa14:21
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tdurakovmriedem: post hook or post_config?14:21
sdaguemriedem: where is the local.conf patch, I'll review it today14:21
mriedemi'd have to find it14:21
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/311668/ ?14:22
sdagueI was spending my live migration energies fixing the cpu map issue14:22
* mriedem hands sdague a cliff bar14:22
PaulMurray+630, -114:22
PaulMurrayare you ok taking that review sdague14:23
mriedemso i guess the idea is nova would have a local.conf in tree for the job? i'm not really sure how this works yet14:23
mriedembut i was planning on updating the postgres job to use the raw image backend14:23
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mriedemanyway, can be worked out after the meeting14:23
sdagueright, the point is that localrc is deprecated in devstack, d-g should use local.conf, that would allow jobs to pass arbitrary config options to project14:24
kashyapmriedem: That above change says "Not current", but the Jenkins message says 'merged'14:24
kashyapmriedem: "above change" == 31166814:24
mriedemlooks fine to me14:25
pkoniszewskilooks fine to me too14:25
PaulMurraykashyap, go to latest patchset14:25
kashyapOkay, disregard me then14:25
PaulMurraywell, there is a plan for now - i.e. make up plan after meeting when sdague has reviewed the review14:26
kashyapsdague: While you're spending energies in that area, mind +Wing this?  It had your ACK, but lost during a new patch set https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323970/ - "functions-libvirt: Add log filter to capture CPU driver errors"14:26
PaulMurrayThere are a couple of comments about Live Migration job status in the agenda14:27
tdurakovPaulMurray, mriedem, sdague is it ok: This change doesn't yet support grenade mode and multinode.?14:27
mriedemsorry everyone, i have to run to other meetings14:27
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sdaguetdurakov: no one is saying that change is right yet14:27
sdaguewhat we're saying is that is the path forward14:28
kashyapPaulMurray: Yes, you're right.  (Going to the latest patchset says it's merged, of course.)14:28
tdurakovok14:28
sdaguewe've pushed back on every project that you can't just add new random shell variables to set 1 conf option14:28
sdaguebecause it makes everyone learn a new DSL, that's devstack specific, instead of knowing how anything is configured, and you end up with the lib/neutron-legacy that is unreadable by everyone14:29
sdagueI also don't think this is the top blocking issue by any regard, this just eliminates one possible part of the test matrix14:29
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sdaguegetting everything else in the live migration test matrix working should be further up the list14:30
PaulMurraylets go onto the next item14:31
PaulMurraytdurakov, anything to say ?14:31
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PaulMurrayre: Currently blocked on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1589591 - tdurakov has a patch up: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326111/14:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1576093 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "duplicate for #1589591 block migration fail with libvirt since version 1.2.17" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Eli Qiao (taget-9)14:31
tdurakovPaulMurray: It turns out to be a duplicate14:31
pkoniszewskithis is correct patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31070714:31
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tdurakov^ this one is good, waiting for experimental job results and  danpb aprove14:33
PaulMurrayinteresting - I saw this on RHEL, but didn't realise it was in standard libvirt14:33
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PaulMurrayso nothing extra needed then ?14:33
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tdurakovI think so14:34
pkoniszewskiwe need to wait for experimental job anyway14:34
PaulMurrayis danpb going to look ?14:34
PaulMurrayi.e have you spoken to him about it ?14:34
pkoniszewskidoesn't look like he is online today14:34
kashyappkoniszewski: He is on -nova14:34
mdboothdiana_clarke: The top of the refactor stack just passed the lvm job :)14:35
kashyap(And a bunch of other places on OFTC, I've seen today)14:35
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pkoniszewskiyeah, but he is not responding14:35
pkoniszewskikashyap: ^14:35
kashyappkoniszewski: Ah, then I don't know.  Probably he's occupied with other stuff.14:35
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PaulMurraywe'll need someone else anyway, so lets give it a few reviews ourselves14:36
tdurakovexperimental job results is top priority for now imo14:36
PaulMurrayput it at the top of the list on the tracking page14:37
tdurakovPaulMurray: maybe action to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310707 ?14:37
PaulMurray#action to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31070714:37
PaulMurraylike that ?14:37
tdurakovyes:)14:38
PaulMurrayanything else on CI ?14:38
tdurakovupdate on nfs14:38
tdurakovI've set up xenial locally14:38
tdurakovand start suspecting this line14:38
tdurakovhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/live_migration/hooks/nfs.sh#L2414:38
tdurakovi mean it supposed to be useless for xenial node14:39
tdurakovs/node/nodes14:39
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tdurakovthere are some update from 14.04 on idmapd service and it's dependency to nfs-kernel-server14:40
tdurakovresearching this14:40
tdurakovthat's all for me on CI14:40
PaulMurrayok... not sure I get what you mean but as long as your working on it....14:41
PaulMurray#topic Libvirt Storage Pools14:41
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PaulMurraymdbooth, diana_clarke paul-carlton2 I think we got some update from you interspersed above14:42
diana_clarkeThe new image backend methods are ready for review (and in the etherpad): https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:libvirt-instance-storage14:42
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diana_clarkeThe tempest tests are now passing for the patch that uses these new image backend methods, and 'check experimental' just passed too :)14:42
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PaulMurrayfantastic14:42
PaulMurrayhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:libvirt-instance-storage14:43
PaulMurray#action all keep up the reviews on libvirt instance storage14:43
paul-carlton2specs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310505/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310538/ are still awating review14:43
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paul-carlton2I have a -1 on one but will address that when I'm done with live migration of rescued instances implementation14:44
paul-carlton2Would appreciate feedback from others on these specs14:45
mdboothFYI, dansmith has asked us for an approach to the refactor series which makes the backend updates used immediately they merge. There might be a way to achieve that, so there may be a bit more churn in there yet.14:45
PaulMurrayThis one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310505/ (use libvirt storage pools) has questions from max - could do with some other feedback14:45
mdboothIt might come to nothing, though, esp if it looks like too much work.14:46
paul-carlton2I need to standup a ploop devstack to address max's comment14:46
paul-carlton2will get to this in next week or so14:47
PaulMurraymdbooth, have you seen the comments about ploop - would be good to get your opinion14:47
mdboothReading.14:47
PaulMurraymdbooth, might need to do offline14:48
mdboothPaulMurray: Yup, will comment in review.14:48
PaulMurraythanks14:48
PaulMurrayAny thing else in this topic ?14:48
PaulMurray#topic Review requests14:49
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PaulMurraythis one in the agenda https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30819814:49
PaulMurraymentioned above already14:49
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PaulMurrayabout lm for rescued instances14:50
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PaulMurrayAnything else anyone wants to bring up for review ?14:50
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PaulMurray#topic Open Discussion14:51
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PaulMurrayanything here ?14:51
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PaulMurrayI think we're done for the week14:52
PaulMurraythank you for coming14:52
PaulMurray#endmeeting14:52
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diana_clarkethanks!14:52
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-06-07-14.00.log.html14:52
pkoniszewskithanks!14:52
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saggi#startmeeting smaug15:09
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun  7 15:09:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is saggi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:09
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:09
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'smaug'15:09
yuvalhi15:09
gampelhi15:10
saggiapparently this is an even week15:10
saggisorry odd15:11
gampelok15:11
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saggiSo we should've done it in the morning15:11
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saggiOr the neutron guys are wrong15:12
yuvalanyone else here?15:12
saggiFigured as much15:13
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gampeleshed will join in few sec15:14
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saggiI put a notice on #openstack-meeting15:15
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oshidoshisaggi: the biweekly irc information on the wiki is wrong, both the time and the place15:16
saggioshidoshi: There was a problem merging the update patch.15:17
saggiand we got he week's parity confused15:17
saggiAnyway let's start15:17
saggi#topic Core nominations15:17
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saggiI think that yuval has been doing an excellent job in the project so far.15:19
saggiHe has been consistently reviewing and submitting patches.15:19
saggiAll of top quality.15:19
gampelI agree excellent  work, thanks yuval15:19
saggiI would like to nominate him to be a core developer for the Smaug project.15:19
yuvalsaggi: thanks :)15:20
gampel+115:20
oshidoshi+115:20
saggiI assume chenyin feels the same way15:21
saggiSo I here by declare yuval a core maintainer!15:21
yuvalThank you! :)15:21
oshidoshisaggi: you mean "i hearby anoint Yuval as a night of the order of Smaug"15:21
saggi🎉🎉🎉15:21
gampelYuval great work you deserve it15:22
oshidoshi*knight15:22
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saggi#topic Status updates15:22
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saggiMost people are missing.15:22
saggiBut are there any patches that are blocked?15:22
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yuvalthere are 2 patches critical for fullstack15:23
saggiDidn't I approve them today?15:23
yuvalmarked with red in the trello board15:23
saggiI'll push them today15:24
saggi#topic Documentation15:24
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yuvalbrb 2 minutes15:25
saggiI still have an action item to publish the API in human readable format. Will try and do it tomorrow.15:25
saggiApart from that we need to go over all the docs and see if the are up to date.15:25
gampeloshidoshi: can you help us tomorrow with the doc and wiki ?15:26
saggiI did some cursory checks and things seem to be in order.15:26
oshidoshi@gampel: I can try15:26
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saggiWorst case we update them as we get questions.15:26
saggi#topic Big Tent15:27
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saggiWe want to get in the Big Tent.15:27
gampeli see that the fullstack is failing with those patches ?15:27
oshidoshisaggi: I heard it's bigger on the inside15:27
saggiI assume we need both for it to work15:27
saggiI want it in mostly because I want to be 1/2 Gal15:28
saggiBut also because we think it's a missing piece in the OpenStack puzzle15:28
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gampelI see that we are using sleep in the fullstack base15:28
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yuval_back15:29
gampelI think that we should use wait for value to be true or false15:29
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oshidoshigampel: are we discussing Big Tent now, or code review?15:30
saggigampel: where?15:30
gampel#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322725/11/smaug/tests/fullstack/smaug_base.py15:30
yuvalzhangshuai wanted to keep it as sleep and send another patch later15:30
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gampelOk NP15:31
saggiAs for the Big Tent, If there are no comments on the patch I will send the patch\mailing list announcement today today.15:31
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gampelI looks good to me , and worst case we can comment on the patch15:31
oshidoshime too15:32
yuvalwell15:32
saggiThe mailing list announcement will just be the commit message and a link.15:32
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yuvalit might seems redundent, but I think we should include more links, to github, to launchpad smaug main page, to the meeting summaries15:33
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oshidoshiyuval: +1 on that15:33
yuvalthese are things the tc might just want to take a glance at, to see everything is fine15:33
yuval*redundant :S15:33
saggimore than:15:34
saggi    [1] https://youtu.be/6RU_4vZZiLQ?t=15m23s15:34
saggi    [2] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/smaug/15:34
saggi    [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/smaug15:34
saggi    [4] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/smaug-dashboard15:34
saggi    [5] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-smaugclient15:34
saggi    [6] https://trello.com/b/Sudr4fKT/smaug15:34
saggi    [7] https://bugs.launchpad.net/smaug15:34
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yuvalhttps://github.com/openstack/smaug15:34
yuvalhttps://launchpad.net/smaug15:35
yuvalhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/smaug15:35
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yuvalhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/smaug/15:35
saggisure15:35
saggihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smaug15:35
saggiI'll add those15:36
yuval^^15:36
oshidoshiokay, good15:36
saggianything else?15:36
yuvalthat's it15:36
oshidoshiI think we need to update the github as well, with mission statement15:36
oshidoshito align it with the big tent commit message15:36
yuvaloshidoshi: +115:36
oshidoshiand I think we need to consider moving the irc meeting to an earlier hour15:37
oshidoshiit's too late at night for our friends in China15:37
saggiIt's the American West Coast hour15:37
saggifor China it's much earlier15:37
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gampelwe do one week west one week east15:37
oshidoshiokay, didn't realize that15:38
oshidoshimaybe it's saggi's unmerged patch...15:38
saggi#topic open discussion15:39
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saggiAnything else before we finish for today?15:39
oshidoshiokay, so what do we consider as the "homepage" for smaug?15:39
gampelthe wiki we need to add how to install and how to use15:40
gampeland we need to convert the API to HTML15:40
yuvalI think the wiki gives us more flexibility15:40
saggiAPI to HTML is on me15:40
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saggihomepage for now is the wiki15:41
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oshidoshiyuval: the wiki is just the meeting archive15:41
oshidoshiit seems to me the github is more ...er... colorful15:41
oshidoshianyways, none of them is currently descriptive, need to do some work to get them up-to-par15:41
saggiI'm talking about15:42
saggihttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/smaug15:42
oshidoshioh... yaiks.... was looking somewhere else...15:42
oshidoshiyep... more like it15:42
oshidoshi:)15:42
oshidoshiit's not refered by the github page, though...15:43
oshidoshii'll fix it15:44
saggiIt requires sending a patch15:44
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saggiYou can't do it directly through github15:44
saggigithub is just a mirror15:44
oshidoshiyeah, I know...15:46
oshidoshigit review , etc.15:46
saggiOK, anything else15:47
gampelOk lets continue talking about the BIG tenet tomorrow in the Smaug channel15:47
saggiI'm sending it tonight15:47
gampelOk15:47
oshidoshiany reason not to submit the request t'day?15:47
gampel>:o15:47
oshidoshi:-$15:47
yuvalS:->15:48
gampelNo lets do it good luck15:48
oshidoshidid you mean "no reason to postpone, let's do it today, and good luck to us all?"15:48
saggiOK15:49
saggiBy everyone15:49
yuvalbye15:49
oshidoshig'night15:49
gampelyes bye everyone , thx15:49
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saggi#endmeeting15:49
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