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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS Folks | 04:00 |
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| mfranc213_ | hi there | 04:00 |
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| chandanc | Hello All | 04:00 |
| yushiro | hi chandanc | 04:01 |
| SridarK | I think we can get started - as folks join in | 04:01 |
| chandanc | Hello Yushiro | 04:01 |
| njohnston|afk | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 04:01:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston|afk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:01 |
| njohnston | #chair SridarK xgerman | 04:02 |
| njohnston | Hello all | 04:02 |
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| yushiro | aloha | 04:02 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: as always thx for updating the agenda | 04:02 |
| SridarK | we can make a quick run thru of things | 04:02 |
| njohnston | indeed | 04:03 |
| SridarK | As noted we are getting close to N-2 | 04:03 |
| njohnston | my pleasure re: the agenda | 04:03 |
| hoangcx | hi | 04:03 |
| SridarK | i think we are in various phases of things | 04:03 |
| SridarK | lets get to v2 quickly and then we can get to the L3 ext work | 04:04 |
| njohnston | ok | 04:04 |
| SridarK | #topic FWaaS v2 | 04:04 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: i have been working thru the integration with the db | 04:04 |
| SridarK | mostly run into some teething issues - i have one issue with the ext getting loaded properly as neutron goes thru the extensions | 04:05 |
| SridarK | i am debugging that - i think once i get past that i should be able to test more with the db | 04:05 |
| SridarK | i had some down time last week so lost some time on that | 04:06 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i had some pieces that i updated with the db - once i get thru a basic test - i can publish them to u | 04:06 |
| njohnston | sounds good on the progress | 04:06 |
| njohnston | SridarK: thanks | 04:07 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: mfranc213_: things u would like to bring up in the context of the db patchset or anything on versioned objects | 04:07 |
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| njohnston | I haven't had any time to work on the db patchset | 04:08 |
| SridarK | njohnston: understand totally | 04:08 |
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| njohnston | I thought padkrish and yushiro were working on versioned objects https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323971/ | 04:08 |
| SridarK | paddu is still out this week | 04:08 |
| SridarK | over to yushiro | 04:08 |
| SridarK | yushiro: things to discuss with the agent ? I saw that u pushed another update | 04:09 |
| yushiro | SridarK, njohnston : Yes. I've updated the patchset but it is 'nit'. | 04:09 |
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| yushiro | SridarK, njohnston Today, I ask someone to help to reach out ajo and Ihar. | 04:10 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: ok | 04:10 |
| njohnston | sure thing - you want them to review the change, or do you have specific questions? | 04:10 |
| yushiro | I've been contacting ajo and Ihar on IRC and e-mail. But the timing is not good ;( They don't answer. | 04:11 |
| * njohnston will speak to them in the morning. | 04:11 | |
| njohnston | I know they both use ZNC bouncers. It is unfortunate they haven't answered email. | 04:11 |
| yushiro | njohnston, Both. Therefore, I'll send e-mail to you about 'question'. | 04:11 |
| njohnston | Thanks! My email is openstacknate@gmail.com | 04:12 |
| SridarK | yushiro: great - njohnston: thx to help facilitate movement on this | 04:12 |
| yushiro | njohnston, Understood. Thanks for your help and sorry for my slow progress. | 04:12 |
| njohnston | yushiro: It is my pleasure to assist. | 04:12 |
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| njohnston | chandanc, SarathMekala: how is your progress going? | 04:13 |
| SridarK | yushiro: if i can get some basic db integration going, in a day or two - perhaps we can try to see if we can get some basic plugin - agent communication | 04:13 |
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| chandanc | I have been discussing the driver changes with mickey | 04:14 |
| SridarK | chandanc: thx - i think u can start a WIP patchset | 04:14 |
| chandanc | but need some help with starting change request with the neutron project | 04:14 |
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| yushiro | SridarK, Great. I see. | 04:14 |
| chandanc | SridarK: I will ping you for some help with the PS creation | 04:15 |
| SridarK | chandanc: surely | 04:15 |
| SarathMekala | not much progress from my side.. I was doing a deep dive into L3 agent code | 04:16 |
| SridarK | chandanc: i think once u have some clarity on this - u can start thinking in terms of the driver changes ? | 04:16 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: ok let me know if u have questions on that | 04:17 |
| chandanc | yes, once the conntrack is done, totally have to be on the driver | 04:17 |
| SarathMekala | sure.. I will spend a few more days on this and review the corresponding rsts | 04:17 |
| SridarK | ok other things to discuss on iptables ? | 04:17 |
| SridarK | chandanc: we will figure out a time to connect | 04:18 |
| chandanc | sure, do you hangout on the openstack-fwaas during the week ? | 04:18 |
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| SridarK | chandanc: yes i am on - last couple of days - had some issues to deal with it and i may not have been on | 04:19 |
| SridarK | if u dont find me email will work too | 04:19 |
| chandanc | ok sure | 04:19 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 04:20 |
| SridarK | #topic L3 Agent extension | 04:20 |
| SridarK | njohnston: pls go ahead | 04:20 |
| njohnston | So the spec was discussed in the neutron team meeting earlier today | 04:20 |
| SridarK | njohnston: thx for pushing this forward | 04:20 |
| njohnston | I believe the decision was to up the priority from 'low' to 'high' to match the fwaas v2 spec | 04:21 |
| njohnston | I've been keeping up with the comments, although there is a lot about the l3 agent I still need to learn about, like l3 agent variants (i.e. neutron-vpn-agent) | 04:21 |
| SridarK | i think u have addressed all the comments - i think the last set was more of a general nature | 04:22 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i can help a bit with the vpn agent | 04:22 |
| njohnston | As far as implementation, I have the first part of the work up, which is to move selected parts of the l2 agent extension stuff out of the l2 agent so that l3 agent can use it as well. | 04:22 |
| SridarK | basically if vpn is configured - due to the old inheritance model - l3 agent runs as the vpn agent | 04:23 |
| SridarK | kind of confusing for sure | 04:23 |
| njohnston | SridarK: If you could tell me if the comment "probably make them an alias of the base l3 agent but with a different set of default extension drivers?" from yamamoto takashi is correct? | 04:24 |
| njohnston | so QoS stuff still works with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329701/ going, so I think/hope it's pretty good | 04:24 |
| SridarK | njohnston: it was not very clear to me on his comment | 04:25 |
| njohnston | and now my effort is in writing a stub for an fwaas agent extension that will hook in to the agent extension code, that we can then integrate with the right parts of the existing fwaas codebase. | 04:25 |
| njohnston | that is my main effort for this week. | 04:25 |
| SridarK | njohnston: the first patchset shd move fwd irrespective of fwaas | 04:26 |
| njohnston | The main impediment now seems to be getting reviews | 04:27 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i can help with the next part to hook things up with fwaas | 04:27 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Excellent, I was hoping you would say that | 04:27 |
| SridarK | just give me 1 or 2 days - i want to wrap up this integration effort | 04:27 |
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| njohnston | SridarK: absolutely | 04:28 |
| SridarK | i think for our part - we can keep getting the patches out | 04:28 |
| njohnston | agreed | 04:29 |
| njohnston | that is it for me on this topic | 04:29 |
| SridarK | anything else to discuss on this topic ? | 04:29 |
| SridarK | ok u read my mind :-) | 04:29 |
| SridarK | #topic devstack plugin patch | 04:29 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/214350 | 04:30 |
| njohnston | there was an issue with the testing of the devstack patch | 04:30 |
| SridarK | so this has been causing me some intermittent issues | 04:30 |
| njohnston | but sc68cal isolated it to something else | 04:30 |
| njohnston | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332256/3 | 04:30 |
| njohnston | it looks like the test accessed an element that never existed | 04:31 |
| SridarK | ok | 04:31 |
| njohnston | I think the consensus is that the devstack patch is fine to proceed | 04:31 |
| SridarK | i found out more on the issue i was seeing | 04:31 |
| njohnston | do tell | 04:31 |
| chandanc | yes | 04:32 |
| SridarK | it seemed for some odd reason on my test - the install of neutron-fwaas as a component had some issue | 04:32 |
| SridarK | so i did not see the db migration scripts run to create the firewall_router_insertion table | 04:32 |
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| SridarK | now even if i ran the script manually it did not happen | 04:33 |
| njohnston | wierd | 04:33 |
| SridarK | but if i did a pip install from neutron-fwaas - i was good | 04:34 |
| SridarK | given that chandanc consistently did not see an issue | 04:35 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: are u also now okay with testing on this ? | 04:35 |
| chandanc | may be because I was running a fresh devstack | 04:35 |
| SridarK | chandanc: i did the same too | 04:35 |
| njohnston | SridarK: I am having issues with local testing, my neutron does not start | 04:36 |
| njohnston | but I think xgerman commented that it worked well for him | 04:36 |
| SridarK | njohnston: ok | 04:36 |
| SridarK | ok | 04:36 |
| njohnston | and the only gate issue was the issue sc68cal identified, which only occurs on the postinstall tempest tests | 04:36 |
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| SridarK | ok | 04:37 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: is ur setup good now ? | 04:37 |
| SarathMekala | I am getting an issue | 04:37 |
| SarathMekala | I replicated Chandans setup but my setup fails with | 04:37 |
| SarathMekala | *while starting neutron | 04:38 |
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| yushiro | njohnston, I'm trying the latest version of devstack with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214350 | 04:38 |
| SarathMekala | 2016-06-16 14:36:21.821 10798 ERROR neutron ImportError: Plugin 'neutron_fwaas.services.firewall.fwaas_plugin.FirewallPlugin' not found. 2016-06-16 14:36:21.821 10798 ERROR neutron q-svc failed to start | 04:38 |
| njohnston | SarathMekala: I had the same issue | 04:38 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: hmm that is odd | 04:38 |
| njohnston | I talked with sc68cal on it in #openstack-fwaas earlier | 04:39 |
| SridarK | yushiro: i think ur setup was good too | 04:39 |
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| chandanc | I can give another run on a fresh system, if that helps ? | 04:39 |
| SridarK | chandanc: sure and i will move some things around too and try again | 04:40 |
| SridarK | if we can converge on this - we can move fwd with this | 04:40 |
| SarathMekala | will give it a shot as well | 04:40 |
| chandanc | will post my local.conf on pastebin and share | 04:41 |
| SridarK | just trying to be conservative on this to do the due diligence | 04:41 |
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| SridarK | chandanc: lets sync on the same email thread | 04:41 |
| njohnston | my discussion with sc68cal was brief but here it is: http://paste.openstack.org/show/521038/ | 04:41 |
| chandanc | sure | 04:41 |
| njohnston | all I know is that the error does not occur in the gate | 04:41 |
| njohnston | the ImportError error | 04:41 |
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| badveli_ | 96 | 04:41 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: this could have some bearing on what i see - perhaps a slightly different symptom | 04:42 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: lets compare notes tomorrow and see if there is something we are missing | 04:43 |
| njohnston | definitely, let's connect on #openstack-fwaas | 04:43 |
| SridarK | njohnston: sounds good | 04:43 |
| chandanc | njohnston: nor mally python setup.py develop puts a path link to the source location in the python path, you can manually run the command "python setup.py develop" can check the output | 04:43 |
| SridarK | ok lets continue this tomorrow | 04:45 |
| njohnston | ok, so we will reconvene on this tomorrow and compare notes | 04:45 |
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| SridarK | ok lets get to the open slot | 04:46 |
| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 04:46 |
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| njohnston | I added another topic to the agenda earlier today | 04:46 |
| njohnston | I think we should talk about our pending ejection from the stadium | 04:46 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes absolutely | 04:46 |
| njohnston | when the fwaas v2 spec came up in the neutron team meeting, the comments were very critical | 04:47 |
| njohnston | ejection seems close to inevitable http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-06-21-14.00.log.html#l-214 | 04:47 |
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| hoangcx | Neutron is going to hold real mid-cycle. Will FWaaS team planing to hold virtual mid-cycle? | 04:48 |
| SridarK | I am not sure what we can control on this front, my take is that we should continue with things to get the spec implemented | 04:48 |
| njohnston | hoangcx: Yes, we are definitely planning on a virtual mid-cycle. It's getting late in the cycle, we should probably schedule it | 04:48 |
| hoangcx | Just concerning :-) | 04:48 |
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| SridarK | it seems the other *aaS will be out for sure | 04:49 |
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| hoangcx | njohnston: Thanks for the info. I got it. | 04:49 |
| njohnston | my wonder is if the community would look on us more favorably if we take control of the spinout process rather than getting evicted | 04:50 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: that is a good point for us to ponder on | 04:50 |
| SridarK | njohnston: but will be good if we can get some of our patches merged first | 04:50 |
| SridarK | atleast that is one thought | 04:51 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Agreed, just thinking about the long game. :-) | 04:51 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes agreed | 04:51 |
| SridarK | do others have some immediate thoughts ? | 04:52 |
| SridarK | dont mean to put anyone on a spot - we can take some time to deliberate on this | 04:53 |
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| SridarK | but this will bear some decision making on our parts | 04:53 |
| njohnston | Indeed, I want to raise awareness - I was dispirited to see the tone of some of the comments | 04:54 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 | 04:54 |
| yushiro | njohnston, +1 | 04:55 |
| SridarK | lets continue to target a basic end to end implementation by N-2 | 04:55 |
| njohnston | yep | 04:56 |
| yushiro | :) | 04:56 |
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| SarathMekala | sure. Whats the date for N-2? | 04:56 |
| njohnston | lets get some of these patches merged - show progress by N-2 will be very positive for us | 04:56 |
| SridarK | mid July | 04:56 |
| yushiro | SarathMekala, http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 04:57 |
| SarathMekala | Thanks Yushiro | 04:57 |
| SridarK | lets think thru a favorable time for the virtual mid-cycle | 04:57 |
| SridarK | ok i think we all know our priorities | 04:58 |
| SridarK | we are almost at time | 04:58 |
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| njohnston | thanks everyone! yushiro, I will talk to ajo and ihrachys tomorrow first thing and keep you updated | 04:59 |
| yushiro | njohnston, Thank you so much! | 04:59 |
| SridarK | thanks all | 04:59 |
| yushiro | Thanks. Bye. | 05:00 |
| chandanc | bye | 05:00 |
| * SarathMekala thanke every one o/ | 05:00 | |
| hoangcx | Bye | 05:00 |
| SridarK | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
| badveli_ | bye | 05:00 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: looks like u will need to close | 05:01 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 05:01 |
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| njohnston|afk | #endmeeting | 05:01 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-06-22-04.01.html | 05:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-06-22-04.01.txt | 05:01 |
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| anil_rao | #startmeeting taas | 05:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 05:30:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anil_rao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:30 |
| yamamot__ | hi | 05:30 |
| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
| kaz | hi | 05:30 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:30 |
| soichi | anil_rao: how are you? | 05:31 |
| anil_rao | Was down with the flu for the past few weeks. Feeling better now. | 05:31 |
| soichi | sounds good | 05:31 |
| anil_rao | Thx. Need to catch up on things that I have missed. :-) | 05:32 |
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| anil_rao | #topic do we still aim to make a release compatible with mitaka? | 05:32 |
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| anil_rao | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097727.html | 05:33 |
| vnyyad | hi all | 05:33 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:33 |
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| yamamot__ | given our recent pace of development, i guess it's difficult to make a release for mitaka. how do you think | 05:35 |
| soichi | yamamot_: i agree with you. | 05:36 |
| vnyyad | yamamot_ i agree too | 05:36 |
| anil_rao | yamamot__: So we essentially need to move to the Service Plugin model? | 05:36 |
| yamamot__ | ? | 05:37 |
| yamamot__ | we already have a service plugin | 05:37 |
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| yamamot__ | are you talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307708/ ? | 05:37 |
| vnyyad | yes | 05:37 |
| anil_rao | Yes. | 05:37 |
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| yamamot__ | well, i can't say "we". but for some of us (especially vendors) it's benefitical to make the plugin use backend-specific service drivers. | 05:38 |
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| yamamot__ | the patch implements it. "vendor" part of that is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320871/ (midonet) | 05:39 |
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| yamamot__ | i guess the commit line of the patch ("Support service framework to separate plugin logic") is a bit cryptic. :-) | 05:41 |
| anil_rao | yamamot__: I haven't checked that review as yet (apologies). How does it fit in with the existing reference implementation? | 05:41 |
| yamamot__ | (most of) the reference implementation specific part of the plugin has been moved into its own service driver. | 05:42 |
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| yamamot__ | and the driver is used by default. | 05:42 |
| anil_rao | yamamot__: Thanks. I'll look into this review. | 05:43 |
| yamamot__ | anil_rao: thank you | 05:44 |
| anil_rao | Any other opinions on this topic? | 05:45 |
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| vnyyad | yamamot_, anil: will review too | 05:45 |
| yamamot__ | vnyyad: thank you | 05:45 |
| reedip | hi | 05:45 |
| yamamot__ | reedip: hi | 05:46 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Hi | 05:47 |
| vnyyad | reedip: hi | 05:47 |
| yamamot__ | wrt review, let me announce review inbox again | 05:47 |
| yamamot__ | #link https://goo.gl/DdeEy8 TaaS review inbox | 05:47 |
| yamamot__ | i recommend everyone here to bookmark it. :-) | 05:49 |
| anil_rao | yamamot__: I must have missed the previous announcement but this is very nice! Thanks | 05:49 |
| soichi | i will | 05:49 |
| vnyyad | done | 05:49 |
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| soichi | done :) | 05:50 |
| kaz | i did too | 05:50 |
| anil_rao | yamamot__: Looks like the page contents shunk quite a bit in the last 20 minutes. :) | 05:50 |
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| yamamot__ | anil_rao: ? | 05:52 |
| anil_rao | yamamot__: Just before the TaaS meeting started the contents of that page filled a whole page on my browser; now it is only half a page in length. | 05:53 |
| yamamot__ | which page? | 05:54 |
| anil_rao | The review inbox page. | 05:54 |
| yamamot__ | i guess you reviewed some of them? | 05:55 |
| yamamot__ | it doesn't show patches you already voted | 05:55 |
| anil_rao | OK, I suppose they have been removed. :-) | 05:55 |
| yamamot__ | for me the page is empty :-) | 05:55 |
| anil_rao | #topic gate blocker | 05:57 |
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| anil_rao | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326231/ | 05:57 |
| yamamot__ | anil_rao: i guess you are looking at last week's agenda | 05:57 |
| anil_rao | Sorry. Wrong cut and paste. Let me update | 05:58 |
| anil_rao | #topic State transition model for TaaS objects (Service, Flow) | 05:58 |
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| vnyyad | uploaded a new diagram based on the feedback | 05:59 |
| vnyyad | https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/8/8a/Status_Flow_Chart.png | 05:59 |
| yamamot__ | i suppose agent-level bind can bring "Port Unbound" to "Active" right? | 06:01 |
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| vnyyad | true... i missed representing it... | 06:02 |
| soichi | kaz is planning to set "INACTIVE" as default (initial) status in DB | 06:03 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: Didn't quite follow the unbound and bound state. Is this when the port is not bound to a host? | 06:03 |
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| vnyyad | anil_rao: this is a case when the port on which tap service or flow as originally associated but the port went missing | 06:04 |
| anil_rao | How do we bind it again | 06:06 |
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| vnyyad | anil_rao: i did not get it | 06:07 |
| yamamot__ | a port can be unbound in the first place (eg. just neutron port-create) it can be bound later (eg. launch a VM with the port) | 06:08 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: yamamot__ said above that perhaps agent-level bind can bring "Port Unbound" to "Active". | 06:08 |
| anil_rao | yamamot__: That is why I was under the impression that we are talking about the host binding of a port | 06:09 |
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| yamamot__ | i personally think it isn't worth to have "Port Unbound" state at all. if a user want to know the state, he can look at the neutron port. but probably it's just me. | 06:10 |
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| anil_rao | yamamot__: In the reference implementation we have tap-service (destination side) related flows added on the host to which the dest port is bound. | 06:13 |
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| anil_rao | If the port is not bound we cannot put down these flows. Also if the destination port, for some reason, is no longer bound (e.g. VM attached to it is gone) we have to clean out those flows. | 06:14 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: we add it only when the port gets bound, ie when the VM is created | 06:14 |
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| anil_rao | vnyyad: Yes, that is correct. We will need some way to find out when the port is bound though. | 06:15 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: and also when it goes missing from the host | 06:15 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: Yes. | 06:15 |
| yamamot__ | i suppose it can be done at some port event callbacks in l2 agent | 06:16 |
| vnyyad | yamamto_: yes | 06:17 |
| yamamot__ | assuming we make our agent to l2 agent extension | 06:17 |
| yamamot__ | a question is if we want/need to make it known to the taas plugin | 06:18 |
| vnyyad | yamamot_: needs to be explored | 06:18 |
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| yamamot__ | reedip: do you have any opinion? | 06:18 |
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| vnyyad | lets put this on the agenda next week to discuss | 06:22 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:22 |
| anil_rao | +1 | 06:22 |
| yamamot__ | i guess we need to make agent side concrete before this fsm | 06:22 |
| vnyyad | yes, sounds good | 06:22 |
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| soichi | i'd like to discusss about TaaS session (presentation) in Barcelona Summit | 06:24 |
| soichi | the submission deadline is 13th June | 06:24 |
| soichi | kaz or soichi would like to join as a speaker | 06:24 |
| soichi | what do you say to make a presentation about our progress (e.g. asynchrous API etc.)? | 06:24 |
| soichi | and performance benchmark, if possible | 06:24 |
| yamamot__ | July 13 i guess | 06:25 |
| anil_rao | soichi: I think a performance study would be most appropriate | 06:25 |
| soichi | yes | 06:25 |
| anil_rao | We can do a detailed analysis of the behavior too | 06:25 |
| soichi | yamamoto__: yes | 06:25 |
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| soichi | anil_rao: sounds great | 06:26 |
| anil_rao | soichi: I will be examining the perf results Kaz and you posted a few weeks back. I'll get back to the group on this in a couple of days. | 06:27 |
| anil_rao | I have a hardware multi-node setup coming up shortly. I'll run some experiments from my side too and share the results. | 06:27 |
| soichi | okay, thank you | 06:28 |
| vnyyad | thanks anil | 06:28 |
| anil_rao | Looks like we are out of time. See you all next week. | 06:30 |
| anil_rao | #endmeeting | 06:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 06:30:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-06-22-05.30.html | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-06-22-05.30.txt | 06:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-06-22-05.30.log.html | 06:30 |
| vnyyad | bye | 06:30 |
| soichi | bye | 06:30 |
| kaz | bye | 06:30 |
| anil_rao | Bye! | 06:30 |
| yamamot__ | bye | 06:30 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizondrivers | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 08:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizondrivers' | 08:00 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | o/ ? | 08:00 |
| robcresswell | Anyone around for meeting? | 08:00 |
| robcresswell | hi r1chardj0n3s | 08:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ohai mr cresswell! | 08:00 |
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| tsufiev | o/ | 08:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I did some programming today. Was even vaguely satisfying, for Javascript. | 08:01 |
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| robcresswell | We have an empty agenda again, hoorah. | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I do have a BP | 08:02 |
| robcresswell | Oh, go ahead | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I accidentally approved it. hang on | 08:02 |
| robcresswell | "accidentally" | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/xstatic-release-process | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | you're welcome | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | well, I was kinda just tooling around with the buttons and whoops :-) | 08:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | at the moment we're just waiting on a second +2 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330321 | 08:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | then we can attempt an actual openstackci release | 08:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (omg) | 08:03 |
| robcresswell | Ooh, we could perhaps test with angular 1.4 | 08:04 |
| robcresswell | My first compatibility patch merged | 08:04 |
| robcresswell | Not sure if there is much other work required for that | 08:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah | 08:04 |
| robcresswell | BP looks good anyway, thanks for writing it up. | 08:05 |
| tsufiev | hm, it seems I forgot some details | 08:05 |
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| tsufiev | will we be able to test xstatic patches against dsvm-integration in horizon? | 08:05 |
| tsufiev | or requirements updates? | 08:05 |
| * tsufiev looks about | 08:07 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: I'm not sure about doing that in the *gate* but certainly locally you'll be able to | 08:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | locally you can provide a modified upper-constrants.txt which pulls in the new xstatic package version | 08:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh wait | 08:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | you propose the upper-constraints.txt change in the requirements repo, with a "-1 don't merge me" | 08:08 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | and then depends-on: that from your other patch and the gate *does magic* to pull in the updated upper-constraints.txt | 08:08 |
| tsufiev | oh, that's sad :( | 08:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | at least that's what lifeless told me some months ago would happen :-) | 08:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | sad? | 08:08 |
| tsufiev | dsvm job cannot pull things using Depends-On | 08:09 |
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| tsufiev | regarding the gate and dsvm-integration nothing changes | 08:09 |
| tsufiev | at least, until we fix devstack-gate scripts | 08:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but upper-constraints is used to build then environ that dvsm runs in yeah? | 08:09 |
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| tsufiev | hm... | 08:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | maybe | 08:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm not sure | 08:09 |
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| tsufiev | should give it a try | 08:10 |
| * r1chardj0n3s scratchs tsufiev's head also | 08:10 | |
| robcresswell | cute | 08:10 |
| robcresswell | So, another thing I wanted to discuss is whether there is much value in maintaining this early UTC meeting slot | 08:11 |
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| robcresswell | I'm reluctant to remove it, but its basically just us 3 each week it seems | 08:11 |
| tsufiev | my observation is the same | 08:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it might be worth going back to the original email thread in which I polled the community and we settled on these two times | 08:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | perhaps the community changes, and we haven't | 08:12 |
| tsufiev | *silently* changes | 08:12 |
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| robcresswell | Yeah, I agree. I had hoped that a meeting every 12 hrs would encourage more attendees. We seem to have a lot of contributors with zero interest in IRC interaction though, unfortunately. | 08:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah, not that I would name names, but yeah | 08:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | might be a language barrier thing | 08:13 |
| robcresswell | Indeed. I've been told before by non-native english speakers that they often feel uncomfortable in a debate due to the time it takes to process and formulate an answer etc. | 08:14 |
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| robcresswell | That said, silence isn't a solution to that :) | 08:15 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 08:15 |
| tsufiev | more mailing list discussions? | 08:15 |
| robcresswell | I'll dig up the original email from way back | 08:15 |
| robcresswell | See what discussion occured at the time. | 08:15 |
| r1chardj0n3s | if one of our highest review contributors doesn't engage in other discussions, I think we have a problem | 08:15 |
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| robcresswell | I agree, and the same thing tends to happen with patches that are thrown into the wild without a bp or any discussion of any sort | 08:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 08:17 |
| robcresswell | Right, lets call it here unless there is anything else to discuss? | 08:19 |
| * tsufiev has nothing else to discuss | 08:19 | |
| * r1chardj0n3s either | 08:19 | |
| robcresswell | Great, thanks all :) | 08:20 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks robcresswell | 08:20 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 08:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:20 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 08:20:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-06-22-08.00.html | 08:20 |
| tsufiev | :) | 08:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-06-22-08.00.txt | 08:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizondrivers/2016/horizondrivers.2016-06-22-08.00.log.html | 08:20 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 13:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
| domi007 | hi all | 13:00 |
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| abalutoiu | hello | 13:00 |
| claudiub | hellooo | 13:00 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi All | 13:00 |
| claudiub | #topic designate status | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "designate status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| claudiub | abalutoiu: soo... give us good news, pls. :D | 13:01 |
| abalutoiu | so the patch is ready, also tested it to make sure it works | 13:01 |
| abalutoiu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332703/ | 13:01 |
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| abalutoiu | I've also included a documentation on how to create the designate agent on the Windows host | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | nice... thank you | 13:02 |
| claudiub | ooh, where? | 13:02 |
| abalutoiu | if you want to give it a try it would be great, don't forget that it depends on the os-win patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327846/ | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | is this the only patch | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | i mean code patch | 13:03 |
| abalutoiu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332703/3/doc/source/backends/msdns_agent.rst | 13:03 |
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| abalutoiu | there are 2 patches related to this, one in os-win and one in designate | 13:03 |
| claudiub | abalutoiu: speaking of which, I think you should add a Depends-On in the designate patch, to reference the os-win patch. | 13:03 |
| lpetrut | Hi | 13:04 |
| abalutoiu | claudiub: agree, I'll add it soon | 13:04 |
| claudiub | abalutoiu: it seems to me that there's no blueprint called 'os-win-dnsutils' on os-win | 13:04 |
| claudiub | add it pls? | 13:05 |
| abalutoiu | it is there https://blueprints.launchpad.net/os-win/+spec/os-win-dnsutils | 13:05 |
| claudiub | hm, right. gerrit didn't find it. interesting. | 13:06 |
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| claudiub | anyways, thanks. :) | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | abalutoiu: do we have only 1 patch for designate ? | 13:07 |
| abalutoiu | sagar_nikam: yes | 13:07 |
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| claudiub | as for the documentation for using the agent, it seems to be included in abalutoiu's designate patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332703/3/doc/source/backends/msdns_agent.rst | 13:07 |
| claudiub | soo, looks good to me. :) | 13:07 |
| claudiub | abalutoiu: did you get a chance to test it on 2016 as well? | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | let me ask graham hayes for review | 13:07 |
| abalutoiu | claudiub: not yet, that is the next step, but I don't expect to be any changes | 13:08 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: cool, thanks. :) From my point of view, the os-win patch is merge-able. it looks good. i'll have to ask lpetrut to review it as well. | 13:08 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: also, if I remember corectly, you said that you were going to test it as well? | 13:09 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: should we wait for os-win to merge, before we get designate patch to be merged ? | 13:09 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: ofcourse, the designate patch won't work otherwise. :) | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: designate - not so soon, yes for monasca and freezer | 13:09 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: ah. I see. | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | designate - we will pick up later | 13:10 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: let us know when you'll start to test it | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | as of now, i dont have desinate in my setup | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | i can check with graham if his team plans to test it | 13:10 |
| claudiub | cool | 13:11 |
| claudiub | thanks abalutoiu! | 13:11 |
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| abalutoiu | you're welcome :) | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks abalutoiu: | 13:12 |
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| claudiub | #topic networking-hyperv status | 13:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "networking-hyperv status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:12 | |
| domi007 | :) now that's interesting, I'm all ears | 13:13 |
| claudiub | there was a bug that was reported regarding changing the port's security groups | 13:13 |
| claudiub | let me grab its link.. | 13:13 |
| claudiub | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1586354 | 13:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586354 in networking-hyperv "Intermittent Issue seen --Associating a vm from one security group (having tcp rule) to another security group(not having tcp rule) does not stop ssh from happening" [Medium,Confirmed] | 13:13 |
| claudiub | yeah, that's the one. | 13:14 |
| claudiub | soo.. I don't think this bug exists on liberty. it seems to exist since enhanced rpc was introduced, but not 100% sure. | 13:14 |
| kvinod_ | claudiub: Last IRC I rememebr that the plan was to upload patch for this bug | 13:15 |
| claudiub | this should fix it: | 13:15 |
| claudiub | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332715/ | 13:15 |
| claudiub | it's still fresh though. | 13:15 |
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| claudiub | I've done a few port-updates with this, just to be sure. it seems to be working fine | 13:15 |
| domi007 | claudiub: I think we have or at least had something similar in Liberty | 13:15 |
| domi007 | but need to check it again | 13:16 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: yeah. so, can you take a look at it? | 13:16 |
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| kvinod_ | we saw that bug on liberty | 13:16 |
| claudiub | ah, I see. | 13:16 |
| kvinod_ | sure | 13:16 |
| claudiub | then the fix might be a bit different on liberty then | 13:16 |
| kvinod_ | will look into it | 13:16 |
| kvinod_ | claudiub: for bug #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1591114 | 13:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1591114 in networking-hyperv "Few Vm's not getting IP due to missing security group rules in scale scenarios" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Krishna Kanth (krishna-kanth-mallela) | 13:17 |
| kvinod_ | I see one patch you gave +2 | 13:17 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: just a heads-up. I've removed 'security_group_id' and 'remote_group_id' from the rules returned by _select_sg_rules_for_port | 13:18 |
| kvinod_ | link# https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328218/ | 13:18 |
| kvinod_ | ok | 13:19 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: yeah. lpetrut: review pls? ^ | 13:19 |
| kvinod_ | For the other patch link# https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328210/ | 13:20 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: although the commit message could be updated. | 13:20 |
| kvinod_ | I see you are suggesting to re-factor the code and bring the common code to in new common_util file | 13:20 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: yep | 13:21 |
| kvinod_ | claudiub: for which patch commit message could be updated | 13:21 |
| claudiub | should be fine then | 13:21 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: the os-win one. I've left a comment on it. | 13:21 |
| kvinod_ | ok, will upload new patch | 13:21 |
| kvinod_ | ok | 13:21 |
| kvinod_ | sure | 13:21 |
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| kvinod_ | One more question neutron related log message in nova_compute file | 13:22 |
| kvinod_ | I saw this message in log file | 13:22 |
| claudiub | in nova-compute file? | 13:23 |
| kvinod_ | i mean nova log file | 13:23 |
| kvinod_ | 2016-06-08 07:52:06.931 7768 DEBUG keystoneclient.session [req-ddabaa2d-e041-4bc1-bf62-714f523009fa None None] REQ: curl -g -i --cacert "/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt" -X GET http://10.10.10.10:9696/v2.0/ports.json?tenant_id=b4b31432b1274785b811c2874d0ffa9d&device_id=7aa29ff5-d903-4a53-a760-582831739d60 -H "User-Agent: python-neutronclient" -H "Accept: application/json" -H "X-Auth-Token: {SHA1}002c974ffada745db1b6c | 13:23 |
| claudiub | yeah, put it in a paste | 13:23 |
| claudiub | it won't fit here. :) | 13:23 |
| kvinod_ | My question, is it correct to have auth token in log file | 13:24 |
| kvinod_ | {SHA1}002c974ffada745db1b6ce763a05ebe6f243c58e" | 13:24 |
| kvinod_ | anyways the left out log is not required, the portion that got pasted is enought to as the question | 13:25 |
| claudiub | I see. | 13:25 |
| kvinod_ | :) | 13:25 |
| claudiub | well, that doesn't look nice, imo. but as far as I know, tokens are short-lived. | 13:26 |
| claudiub | but this question will have to be addressed to the keystoneclient folks. :) | 13:26 |
| kvinod_ | Still short time is not good | 13:26 |
| claudiub | as they apparently log this. | 13:26 |
| kvinod_ | I was thinking of filing a bug for this | 13:26 |
| domi007 | in debug mode though | 13:26 |
| claudiub | yeah, true | 13:27 |
| claudiub | kvinod_ might be worth talking to them, imo. | 13:27 |
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| claudiub | maybe they have a reason for this | 13:27 |
| kvinod_ | In that case | 13:27 |
| claudiub | as it is on debug level, as domi007 says. | 13:27 |
| kvinod_ | I will log a defect | 13:27 |
| kvinod_ | could you tell me it will fall under which module | 13:28 |
| kvinod_ | python-neutron-client or keystone or Hyperv | 13:28 |
| kvinod_ | ? | 13:28 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: from what I can see, it is logged in: keystoneclient.session | 13:28 |
| kvinod_ | yes | 13:28 |
| claudiub | so, keystoneclient | 13:28 |
| kvinod_ | so that should be keystoneclient issue | 13:29 |
| claudiub | yeah | 13:29 |
| kvinod_ | I will log a defect soon | 13:29 |
| kvinod_ | thanks | 13:29 |
| claudiub | no problem. :) | 13:29 |
| claudiub | anything else regarding networking-hyperv? | 13:29 |
| domi007 | claudiub: I was wondering if atuvenie is going to create | 13:29 |
| domi007 | the new installer | 13:29 |
| domi007 | although that's actually a neutron thing | 13:30 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: i have some topics, once done with your topics | 13:30 |
| domi007 | not networking-hyperv | 13:30 |
| claudiub | ok | 13:30 |
| kvinod_ | no nothing from my end on networking-hyperv | 13:30 |
| claudiub | I dunno where she is at the moment, she's still jetlagged. | 13:30 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:31 |
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| domi007 | claudiub: oh, okay :) | 13:31 |
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| claudiub | soo.. what should we talk about next? :) | 13:31 |
| kvinod_ | claudiub: Any news on OVS Microsoft Certification? | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | i have many topics | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | let me start with some good news | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | we have done our scale tests in liberty | 13:31 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: I haven't heard anything about it, sorry. :( | 13:32 |
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| claudiub | kvinod_ will ask about it | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | and results are very nice | 13:32 |
| kvinod_ | I hope thats still in plan | 13:32 |
| kvinod_ | thanks | 13:32 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: \o/ | 13:32 |
| claudiub | kvinod_: hope so too. | 13:32 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: what branch? | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | 40 hyperv compute hosts, 2000VMs all with multple IPs | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | all work well | 13:32 |
| domi007 | nice | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: liberty | 13:32 |
| claudiub | I see you've doubled the number of VMs. :) | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | using pymi | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | plus the patches we backported from mitaka for neutron-agent | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | yes, we have doubled | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | nice work all.... thanks | 13:33 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: nice. sounds good. :) | 13:33 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: so you are using the enhanced RPC for security groups? | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | now to some not so good news | 13:34 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: also, thanks for testing it so much. :) | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: yes | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | freerdp beta MSI is not working | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | QA picked up the latest MSI | 13:34 |
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| claudiub | c64cosmin: hi | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | and it is not getting installed | 13:34 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: I see...sad that there is no installer with thos enhancements yet | 13:34 |
| c64cosmin | yep I'm here | 13:35 |
| domi007 | good thing you mention it | 13:35 |
| domi007 | you need to install Visual C++ redistributable | 13:35 |
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| domi007 | that was the catch for us | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: the VC++ compiler you mentioned also did not work | 13:35 |
| c64cosmin | yes we should add the destributable in the msi | 13:35 |
| c64cosmin | or in the exe itself | 13:35 |
| domi007 | yes | 13:35 |
| c64cosmin | I don't see what changed, maybe it's from the build scripts | 13:35 |
| claudiub | domi007: yeah.. well, the enhanced rpc was introduced as a feature in mitaka. as networking-hyperv is still an official openstack project, we have to abide to the same rules. :) | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: can you add it in the MSI and let us know | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | we can pick and test | 13:36 |
| c64cosmin | sure | 13:36 |
| domi007 | claudiub: yes, but in your own MSI you can include whatever you want :) but again that's atuvenie's desk afaik | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: thanks | 13:36 |
| c64cosmin | it's one of the versions of vcredist | 13:36 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: just install this before trying to isntall the msi https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40784 | 13:37 |
| domi007 | it'll work after that fine | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: also i think we need a stable version of the MSI, it is easy for QA to pick up stable and test | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | as well as for customers to use stable | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | not a good idea for customers to use beta | 13:37 |
| c64cosmin | totally, my code was not reviewed yet | 13:37 |
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| c64cosmin | Pilotti is quite busy these days | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: i installed it, still did not work | 13:38 |
| c64cosmin | but as fast as the code is merged, a new version will be out | 13:38 |
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| c64cosmin | I will send a mail to sagar&domi | 13:38 |
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| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: the earlier the better for stable, QA ready to pick up as soon as it is ready | 13:39 |
| c64cosmin | deb build scripts are on the working right now also | 13:39 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: now that's weird, it worked perfectly, I was able to create an RDP cluster using HAproxy and the new beta | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: some issue for us, did not work | 13:39 |
| c64cosmin | domi007: yes the beta is a newer version, with some fixes | 13:39 |
| domi007 | sagar_nikam: if you could tell us what error message you're getting we will be able to figure this out :) | 13:39 |
| domi007 | I'm sure | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: deb ... that is nice | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | domi007: need to check with QA | 13:40 |
| c64cosmin | sagar_nikam: as promised | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | team member | 13:40 |
| c64cosmin | :) | 13:40 |
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| domi007 | sure thing | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: i think it should be submitted to debian jesse as well | 13:40 |
| c64cosmin | https://download.microsoft.com/download/2/E/6/2E61CFA4-993B-4DD4-91DA-3737CD5CD6E3/vcredist_x64.exe | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | it easy for customers to just do apt-get install on debian | 13:40 |
| c64cosmin | also try this one for vcredist | 13:40 |
| c64cosmin | this is what one of our colleagues is using for the FreeRDP-WebConnect Juju charm | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | i think i will wait for the MSI to have it | 13:41 |
| c64cosmin | indeed the apt-get from the PPA would be useful | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | easy for QA to test and certify based on one MSI | 13:41 |
| c64cosmin | but before it gets on the PPA for jesse, a wget can do the trick | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: yes from PPA is very useful | 13:42 |
| domi007 | sounds good | 13:42 |
| c64cosmin | wget <somelink on our page cloudbase.it> | 13:42 |
| domi007 | dpkg -i the_file.deb | 13:42 |
| domi007 | :) | 13:42 |
| c64cosmin | take the deb, dpkg, install it and should work | 13:42 |
| claudiub | oh yeah. forgot about os-brick... the iSCSI connector got a +2 once, but it ended up in a merge conflict. :( I am expecting it to get in this week, hopefully. | 13:43 |
| domi007 | c64cosmin: freerdp doesn't have any dependencies right? | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | yes, but having it in PPA wll be good for automated install | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | i am done with FreeRDP topic | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | we can move to next topic, if everybody is done | 13:45 |
| domi007 | sure | 13:45 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1585612 | 13:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1585612 in Cinder "unable to perform upload to image operation with disk format vhd" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 13:45 |
| c64cosmin | domi007: for some reason, now it depends on https://download.microsoft.com/download/2/E/6/2E61CFA4-993B-4DD4-91DA-3737CD5CD6E3/vcredist_x64.exe | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | we are not able to upload to glance a VHD based image for bootable volume | 13:46 |
| c64cosmin | might be that we build only for x64, supposedly windows does not come with the redist for x64 | 13:46 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: interesting. | 13:46 |
| claudiub | lpetrut: ^ | 13:46 |
| domi007 | c64cosmin: I meant to ask on Linux :) so a PPA is most useful when you need a specific set of packages :) but it really doesn't matter | 13:47 |
| c64cosmin | domi007: no, all the so files are copied for the wsgate binary file to use | 13:48 |
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| domi007 | good | 13:48 |
| domi007 | now that's a weird bug what sagar_nikam posted | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | we found this in our tests | 13:49 |
| sagar_nikam | i think there is some validation which does not allow VHD type to be uploaded | 13:49 |
| claudiub | yeah, it seems qemu-img doesn't know what vhd is, which is strange | 13:49 |
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| domi007 | claudiub: according to a qemu-img manual | 13:49 |
| domi007 | it seems that the format is called vpc | 13:49 |
| domi007 | not VHD | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | similar bug also raised in horizon https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1586915 | 13:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1586915 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "There is no supported disk format for hyperv image when performing operation "volume to upload to image"" [Undecided,New] | 13:50 |
| domi007 | http://linux.die.net/man/1/qemu-img | 13:50 |
| domi007 | although I find this quite stupid :) | 13:50 |
| claudiub | domi007: yeah, that's what I was going to say. | 13:50 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: can you try it with cinder upload-to-image --container-format bare --disk-format vpc --force True <volume uuid> <image-name> | 13:51 |
| claudiub | going to try it as well | 13:51 |
| domi007 | that'd be my first idea as well :) | 13:51 |
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| sagar_nikam | use vpc instead of vhd ? | 13:51 |
| domi007 | although it's weird that it tries to do a conversion, if the input image from glance is in VHD format, and the cinder volume is in VHD format as well why would it convert? | 13:52 |
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| sagar_nikam | 7' left | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | next topic ok ? | 13:53 |
| domi007 | sure I guess | 13:53 |
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| sagar_nikam | claudiub: how is cluster driver and FC patches review going. any chances of them making it to newton ? | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | i mean review from core | 13:54 |
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| claudiub | yeah, so giving vpc as an argument instead of vhd doesn't work | 13:56 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: how are the cluster driver and FC patches going ? any chances of it getting merged in Newton ? | 13:57 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: fibre channel, as always, depends on the os-brick patches. I've mentioned already that one of the patches got a +2, but it ended up in merge conflict. yeat | 13:57 |
| claudiub | yeay | 13:57 |
| lpetrut | this should be easy to fix, in Cinder/image_utils.py we could just check the requested format and replace vhd with vpc before issuing the convert command. Our drivers were already handling this | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | cluster ? | 13:58 |
| claudiub | as for any other nova patches, nothing got in for hyper-v in the last 14 days, according to the git history. :( | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | can we try to push cluster driver ? | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | for newton | 13:59 |
| claudiub | they're still up for review. ready, but they don't get reviewed. | 13:59 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:59 |
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| claudiub | soo... yeah.. | 13:59 |
| claudiub | anyways. our time is up | 14:00 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks all | 14:00 |
| domi007 | thanks | 14:00 |
| claudiub | thanks for joining, see you next week. :) | 14:00 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 14:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-06-22-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-06-22-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-06-22-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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| tomasztrebski | hello artur ;-) | 15:00 |
| arturbasiak | hello :) | 15:00 |
| tomasztrebski | noise ? | 15:00 |
| arturbasiak | noise | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 15:01:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:01 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:01 |
| ericksonsantos | \o | 15:01 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:01 |
| witek | hi | 15:01 |
| jayahn | o/ | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
| Kamil__ | o/ | 15:01 |
| arturbasiak | o/ | 15:01 |
| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:01 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:01 |
| tsv | 0/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
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| slogan | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday June 22, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Grafana Update | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Revert "Remove cassandra repository" https://review.openstack.org/291319 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Encrypted password in monasca-agent configuration file ?? | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 4.'locked alarms' http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097831.html | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 5.Reviews | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/301443 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/331582 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Good morning Monasca | 15:02 |
| Fdaisuke_ | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | What movie is that from | 15:02 |
| tomasztrebski | Artur, can you find the link ? :D | 15:03 |
| arturbasiak | for noise?:D | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | So, hi everyone, looks like we have a descent agenda to work through | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | so, we might as well get started | 15:03 |
| tomasztrebski | cool | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Grafana update | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana update (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:03 | |
| rbak | That's me. Just a couple of things to mention. | 15:03 |
| rbak | I've updated the monasca grafana repos for Grafana 3 | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | are they going to let you in? | 15:04 |
| rbak | For anyone that wants to use that there are new branches. master-keystone and master-monasca | 15:04 |
| rbak | We're still working on getting the keystone auth in. I'm not sure when that will happen | 15:04 |
| rbak | For the monasca datasource, that will always be a plugin because of their new model. | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | do you have a gentleman's agreement in place | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | that they are going to let you in | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | or let keystone in? | 15:05 |
| rbak | They've said they'll work with us. We're in the process of paperwork to make them a Vendor so we can pay for support and make this a priority for them. | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | i'm sorry, gentleman is not applicable here | 15:06 |
| rbak | For the monasca plugin though we might want to find a permanent home. | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | wow, very cool | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | i didn't realize you would have to go to the level of a contract | 15:06 |
| rbak | They said they were interested in it either way, but this way it gets done sooner | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | very nice | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | what are you impressions of grafana 3? | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | over 2 | 15:07 |
| rbak | Not as big a change as 1 to 2, but some improvements. | 15:07 |
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| rbak | Most of the changes are architectural | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | so, where do you want to put the plugin | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | didn't they have a grafana-plugins repo | 15:08 |
| rbak | Yeah, but that's being decommissioned | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | and the grafana repo isn't the right location either? | 15:08 |
| rbak | The new model is maintain your own repo and link to it on their site | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | will that be true for all data sources | 15:08 |
| rbak | All but about six. | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | like influxdb, opentsdb, … | 15:09 |
| rbak | A couple were even removed and made into plugins. | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | i see | 15:09 |
| rbak | You can see the plugin list at their new site. grafana.net | 15:09 |
| witek | perhaps a new repo at openstack? | 15:09 |
| rbak | That's probably what we want long term. | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | so, do you want a monasca-grafana-plugin repo? | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | within the openstack org | 15:10 |
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| rbak | monasca-grafana-datsource is probably more accurate | 15:10 |
| rbak | there are other types of plugins | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | so, we can add another repo to the long list of repos if that seems appropriate in this case | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | that makes the most sense to me | 15:11 |
| witek | they won't like us :) | 15:12 |
| rbak | It's either that or it sits in the twc repo forever, and I don't think that's what we want | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | pretty soon monasca is going to have more repos than the rest of opensack | 15:12 |
| tomasztrebski | ]:-> | 15:12 |
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| tomasztrebski | it is called 'aggressive expansion' | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | we'll have a monasca summit in which we'll feature the rest of openstack | 15:12 |
| witek | lol | 15:13 |
| rbak | rhochmuth: Can you either get that repo or point me to instructions. I'm not sure how to do it myself. | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: in all seriousness, i agree, and i think that makes the most sense to me | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i can get that set-up if you want | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | or if you want to do the submission that is fine too | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | it is mostly logistical | 15:13 |
| rbak | If you want to do that since you already know how that would be great. | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: you wish is granted | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | you only have two remaining | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i'll get it done | 15:14 |
| rbak | awesome, thanks. | 15:14 |
| bklei | wish for more wishes | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | so, "monasca-grafana-datasource", | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | is that the name | 15:15 |
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| rbak | I think that makes sense, yes | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | that will be the first monasca repo with 2 dashes | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | ok, sounds good to me | 15:15 |
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| witek | not really :) | 15:15 |
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| tomasztrebski | monasca-log-api was the first.... -_- | 15:16 |
| tomasztrebski | ;-) | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | ooops | 15:16 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, it will be the second repo with two dashes | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | aha | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | got you | 15:16 |
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| rhochmuth | did someone spike my coffee | 15:17 |
| tomasztrebski | I will send you list of changes I'd like to have accepted because you forgot about us ;-) | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | so, are we good on grafana | 15:17 |
| rbak | Yep, that's all I had | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | i'm assuming you'll update devstack too? | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | please | 15:17 |
| rbak | I will once we get the new repo in place. | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | thx | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Revert "Remove cassandra repository" https://review.openstack.org/291319 | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Revert "Remove cassandra repository" https://review.openstack.org/291319 (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:18 | |
| shinya_kwbt | It's me | 15:18 |
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| shinya_kwbt | I'm fixing deklan's cassandra support code. | 15:18 |
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| shinya_kwbt | But cassandra support code are removed in monasca-persister | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, that was added then removed | 15:19 |
| shinya_kwbt | So I want to revert this change. | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | so it will need to be readded | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | ahhh, that will work too | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | i think that is ok with me | 15:20 |
| witek | +1 | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | cassandra as an alternative to influx and vertica, right ? | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | bigger question then, is cassandra the way we ant to go? | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | don't we investigate that, Witek ? | 15:20 |
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| witek | yes, Matthias investigates alternatives | 15:21 |
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| tomasztrebski | so, +1 | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | my biggest concern going forward is that we have enough support within monasca to continue to support and improve the cassandra | 15:22 |
| witek | rhochmuth: I think it's too early to say | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | so, it seems like general concensus is to add cassandra back and continue to evaluate and improve | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | lot's of questions around performance, scale, compression still | 15:23 |
| shinya_kwbt | Almost function are worked in my env. But I don't know speed. So please evaluate cassandra. Of course I also improve | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | +1 | 15:24 |
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| shinya_kwbt | I will push fix in this week. | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | thanks shinya_kwbt | 15:25 |
| tomasztrebski | perhaps, it'd be worth considering dropping influx if cassandra as open source app will support features influxdb closes in | 15:26 |
| tomasztrebski | but I don't know cassandra at all | 15:26 |
| tomasztrebski | and that's a mere suggestion here | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | sounds like a reasonable suggestion to me | 15:27 |
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| rhochmuth | we are already spending a lot of time of various databases support so reducing the number would be good | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | i think dropping would be a community decision though | 15:27 |
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| tomasztrebski | if so, only after cassandra is fully compatible | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | yes, that seems reasonable | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | so there is data injest performance | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | there is query performance | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | also, compression on disk | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | those are the main areas | 15:29 |
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| tomasztrebski | migration from influx to cassandra ? | 15:29 |
| tomasztrebski | db migration, I mean | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i think cassand's clustering is rock solid | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think a migration would be easy | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | and i think that would be outside the scope of monasca project | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | shinya_kwbt: so closing on this issue, i don't see any major functional issues proceeding with cassandra | 15:31 |
| shinya_kwbt | I found one issue. | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | biggest concern is what the final performance, compression will be | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | as well as the future community support | 15:32 |
| shinya_kwbt | Maybe little concern | 15:32 |
| shinya_kwbt | It is difficult to support multiple dimension value | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | do you have an exampel? | 15:33 |
| shinya_kwbt | like that hostname=devstack|mini-mon | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | in the query? | 15:34 |
| shinya_kwbt | values has | split | 15:34 |
| shinya_kwbt | Yes. | 15:34 |
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| shinya_kwbt | Is is caused lack of cassandra function. So I want to idea. | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | biggest issue with cassandra is query performance due to lack of in-database join, merges and analytics | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'm not sure how to deal with that efficiently | 15:35 |
| shinya_kwbt | Yes, I agree. But I didn't measure speed yet. | 15:36 |
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| shinya_kwbt | And I don't have servers to use free yet ;-( | 15:37 |
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| shinya_kwbt | I will ask my boss to get servers. | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | shinya_kwbt: sounds good | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | shinya_kwbt: is it ok to move on to next topic? | 15:39 |
| shinya_kwbt | Yes | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | i will start reviewing your reviews | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Encrypted password in monasca-agent configuration file ?? | 15:40 |
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| rhochmuth | as usual i don't know who posted this topic | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | ok, it's me | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | I thought Witek would want to describe thi | 15:41 |
| witek | :) | 15:41 |
| witek | actually the requirement is | 15:41 |
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| witek | not to use plaintext passwords | 15:41 |
| witek | in monasca-agent | 15:41 |
| witek | are there other possibilities for agent to authenticate with keystone? | 15:42 |
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| rhochmuth | so, is there any other example in openstack where passwords are encrypted? | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | i was just wondering if there is an existing precedent that has been established | 15:43 |
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| rhochmuth | for how to handle this | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | also, do you want to submit a bp for adding this | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | and what would be your suggested way | 15:44 |
| Kamil__ | sure, but first we wanted to ask about your feeling | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | i dont' have any major issue | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | i wonder why it is required | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | and how you would support this | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | and if OS was doing this anywhere else | 15:44 |
| bklei | who is requiring this? | 15:44 |
| witek | our product owner | 15:45 |
| Kamil__ | we haven't investigated on this topic yet. The request was coming from our product owner | 15:45 |
| cbellucci | in the scenario of monitoring as a service, for security reasons | 15:45 |
| bklei | aah. would be nice to make encryption optional, so others aren't forced to change -- shops that are OK with just file perms to lock it down | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: agree | 15:46 |
| Kamil__ | good point bklei | 15:46 |
| Kamil__ | so i would say, we will investigate and create a blueprint for that | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | I know on Windows, there was a system password that could be used | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | not sure what Linux has in this area | 15:47 |
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| rhochmuth | so, will wait for bp and then we can have a discussion | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | sound good? | 15:48 |
| witek | ok | 15:48 |
| tsv | rhochmuth, we set 600 mode for the conf files that have sensitive data | 15:48 |
| Kamil__ | +1 thx | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | #topic 'locked alarms' http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097831.html | 15:48 |
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| witek | that's me | 15:48 |
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| witek | I'm looking for a good name for 'locked/latched alarms' | 15:49 |
| bklei | i like this idea witek -- could this be used to 'mute' an alarm too? | 15:49 |
| witek | The functionality allows the operator to define an alarm which after transition to ALARM state, stays in that state until it is manually reset. | 15:49 |
| bklei | so if it's alarming and you're going to address it at some point in the future, but you want to 'silence' it? | 15:49 |
| witek | well, the alarm will stay in ALARM stay, so no notification | 15:50 |
| tomasztrebski | mute is kind of available through disabling notifications, right ? | 15:50 |
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| tomasztrebski | but alarm transitions are not affected that way | 15:50 |
| tomasztrebski | here, it would | 15:50 |
| bklei | i was thinking of the overview page in horizon -- which is alarm based, not notification | 15:51 |
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| witek | oh, I see | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | i think the idea is that if something goes to the ALARM'd state, if the metric then goes back to OK, you want the alarm to remain ALARM'd until the operator clears it | 15:51 |
| witek | rhochmuth: correct | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | you don't want to miss and alarm basically | 15:52 |
| bklei | ok, different than what i'm thinking | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | this is also related to deterministic alarms that are sent "sporadically" | 15:52 |
| witek | another question is about implementation detail | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | for example, in the case that you are creating metrics from error messages in log files | 15:53 |
| witek | should we make it by extending AlarmExpression, or would it be enough to add attribute to AlarmDefinition? | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | i've already added my vote in response to your email | 15:54 |
| witek | oh, I didn't read yet | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | AlarmDefinition is what i/we thought | 15:55 |
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| rhochmuth | your second option | 15:55 |
| witek | nice | 15:55 |
| witek | thanks | 15:55 |
| witek | would it conflict with current monasca-thresh implemenation somehow? | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think so | 15:55 |
| witek | thanks for your answers | 15:56 |
| witek | we can move on | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | implementation should be straiht-forward, but craig bryant will probably come up with corner cases | 15:56 |
| witek | :) | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | "locked" seems like a reasonably field name | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | until come up with something better | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | I'd prefer isLockable for alarm definiiton | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | and locked for alarm | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | not sure i have a better name, but will ponder this one more | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | i think we need to end the meeting | 15:59 |
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| witek | thanks Roland! | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | i'll try and get to your reviews tomasz | 16:00 |
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| tomasztrebski | thank you ;-) | 16:00 |
| witek | bye | 16:00 |
| Kamil__ | thanks and bye | 16:00 |
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| bklei | thx | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | by everyone | 16:00 |
| shinya_kwbt | bye | 16:00 |
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| koji | bye | 16:00 |
| ericksonsantos | bye | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 16:00:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-06-22-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-06-22-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| markvoel_ | #startmeeting defcore | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-06-22-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 16:01:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoel_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:01 |
| markvoel_ | #chair hogepodge | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hogepodge markvoel_ | 16:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:01 |
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| * markvoel_ notices his IRC nic and wonders what the heck happened there...but figures maybe that'll make rockyg happy | 16:01 | |
| * notmorgan slips into the back of the room and lurks. | 16:02 | |
| luzC | o/ | 16:02 |
| catherineD|2 | o/ | 16:02 |
| markvoel_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.8 Today's agenda | 16:02 |
| VanL_ | o/ | 16:02 |
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| hogepodge | markvoel_: "There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things." | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | and off by one errors | 16:02 |
| markvoel_ | heh | 16:02 |
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| gema | o/ | 16:02 |
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| markvoel_ | #topic Midcycle Planning | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Midcycle Planning (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:03 | |
| notmorgan | markvoel_: the uhm... etherpad is erroring for me? | 16:03 |
| markvoel_ | notmorgan: hmm...working for me. Anyone else having problems? | 16:03 |
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| notmorgan | markvoel_: TypeError: null is not an object (evaluating 'pad.collabClient.setChannelState') in https://etherpad.openstack.org/javascripts/lib/ep_etherpad-lite/static/js/pad.js?callback=require.define at line 266' | 16:03 |
| notmorgan | and now it's back | 16:03 |
| notmorgan | nvm | 16:03 |
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| markvoel_ | notmorgan: ok, cool | 16:04 |
| markvoel_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreSummer2016Sprint Etherpad for midcycle planning | 16:04 |
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| markvoel_ | Last week we asked folks to denote what venues work best for them. Looking at the results, it looks like San Antonio and Palo Alto are pretty close | 16:04 |
| markvoel_ | San Antonio looks like it works best for folks assuming everyone doesn't mind holding it in Texas again | 16:05 |
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| gema | it's summer, will we survive? | 16:05 |
| markvoel_ | Any objections to selecting San Antonio at this point? | 16:05 |
| gema | nah, sounds good | 16:06 |
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| VanL | We'll try to import some cooler weather, but no guarantees. | 16:06 |
| markvoel_ | Ok then, sounds like we have a venue. | 16:06 |
| gema | VanL: as long as you get us water, we'll be fine :D | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | lgtm | 16:06 |
| brunssen | Fine with me | 16:06 |
| markvoel_ | As for the date, we'd picked the week of August 1 and one or two folks has noted a preference for "don't start on Monday" | 16:07 |
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| brunssen | August 2 - 4? | 16:07 |
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| markvoel_ | We also need to set a length. It sort of feels like we have 2-3 days worth of work here, so I'm thinking Tues-Thur. | 16:08 |
| markvoel_ | brunssen: yes, that. =) | 16:08 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:08 |
| gema | sounds great, we can be home for the weekend | 16:08 |
| luzC | +1 | 16:08 |
| markvoel_ | VanL: (since RAX is hosting) does that work ok? | 16:08 |
| VanL | All right, I'll get the hamsters moving. It should, but let me confirm. | 16:09 |
| VanL | How many should I plan for? 25ish? | 16:09 |
| Rockyg | I can hear those hamster wheels squeaking now | 16:09 |
| VanL | We have a couple different venues, depending on how many we expect. | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | We need to update the community sprint page once confirmed | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints | 16:10 |
| markvoel_ | VanL: feels about right | 16:10 |
| VanL | I'll ask for 30 | 16:10 |
| markvoel_ | VanL: We can set up an Eventbrite or something to get actually attendance confirmed of course. | 16:10 |
| Rockyg | sounds good | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | VanL: QA hasn't set a date yet, maybe I could check with them to see if we could have a joint meeting? | 16:11 |
| markvoel_ | hogepodge: yep, already on my to-do list pending the outcome of today's meeting =p | 16:11 |
| gema | hogepodge: they are looking at infra/qa together and they want to do Sept 19-21 | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | gema: ah, thanks | 16:11 |
| gema | np, that's what oomichi told me | 16:11 |
| Rockyg | gema, ++ | 16:12 |
| gema | but they were stilll planning | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | It's listed in the sprint page too, hidden by the infra prefix :-D | 16:12 |
| VanL | hogepodge: How would that affect the number of people I should ask for? | 16:12 |
| gema | hogepodge: maybe we should try to ask for presence from them | 16:12 |
| gema | that'd be neat | 16:12 |
| gema | even if we don't manage a full double sprint | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | VanL: QA sprints are usually 13, but it looks like they're covered with infra | 16:13 |
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| * markvoel_ notes that we can also set up dialin/video call too per the usual if QA folks can't be there | 16:14 | |
| markvoel_ | Ok, speaking of things we want to get done and people we want to talk to during the midcycle: | 16:15 |
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| markvoel_ | We have a list of tenative agenda items in the etherpad | 16:15 |
| markvoel_ | If we have tentative agreement on the dates and venue, I'll start drafting an official agenda with eglute and send it out for comments | 16:15 |
| markvoel_ | So this is your last, last, last opportunity to add topics to the list if you haven't already. =p | 16:16 |
| VanL | Ok, hamsters are scurrying. I'll see how fast they come back. | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | markvoel_: what's the cutoff time for agenda items? | 16:16 |
| markvoel_ | Let's record a few things for the meeting notes: | 16:16 |
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| markvoel_ | hogepodge: Let's say Friday | 16:17 |
| markvoel_ | #agreed DefCore Committee Midcycle will be August 2 - 4 at Rackspace in San Antonio (pending VanL getting approval) | 16:17 |
| markvoel_ | #action VanL to check on/confirm venue | 16:18 |
| markvoel_ | #action everyone make final additions to the topics list by Friday | 16:18 |
| markvoel_ | #action markvoelker Begin drafting official agenda from topic list | 16:18 |
| markvoel_ | #action markvoelker to add info to the Sprints page once venue confirmed | 16:19 |
| markvoel_ | #action markvoelker to work with VanL to set up event registration ensuring we get all the necessary info RAX needs | 16:21 |
| markvoel_ | Ok, anything I missed? | 16:21 |
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| * markvoel_ hears none | 16:22 | |
| markvoel_ | Ok, anything else to discuss on the midcycle topic? | 16:22 |
| markvoel_ | Ok, moving on then... | 16:22 |
| markvoel_ | #topic Proposals and recommendations for the board meeting | 16:22 |
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| markvoel_ | We talked some about this last week and I'm drafting up some materials for the Baord this week with Egle. | 16:23 |
| markvoel_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.7 last week's notes on Board meeting stuff | 16:23 |
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| markvoel_ | Was there stuff in the pad today that folks wanted to discuss now? | 16:25 |
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| * markvoel_ is not sure who added the "possible questions to put before the board" bits here | 16:25 | |
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| VanL | I added that | 16:26 |
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| Rockyg | So where are we on the name change. | 16:26 |
| VanL | (Sorry, was briefly afk) | 16:26 |
| markvoel_ | Ah, thanks VanL. Did you want to discuss that now? | 16:27 |
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| hogepodge | We need to send our agenda to the board before the meeting, so they have time to think about the items we could be bringing to them. | 16:28 |
| VanL | Sure. I put some of my thougths in the etherpad. | 16:28 |
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| markvoel_ | hogepodge: right, Egle and I are already working on it | 16:29 |
| Rockyg | I think this board meeting is a little too close for the more contentious but still fuzzy issues. I think we need to write up the alternatives, like hogepodge did but for the board | 16:29 |
| VanL | The biggest thing is the questions about the specification - and that has a direct bearing on the extra properties issue. | 16:29 |
| Rockyg | The extension thing is close, but *we* need a position before we ask the board what they think | 16:30 |
| catherineD|2 | Rockyg: Close means no extension? | 16:30 |
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| VanL | We want to have a clear sense of where we stand on the various issues, or at least we need to set out the questions and positions. | 16:30 |
| Rockyg | We have a general position, but we need to get more details down | 16:30 |
| markvoel_ | Rockyg: Actually I'd think the Board's thoughts on the topic might influence our decision. =) So, two-way street. | 16:31 |
| Rockyg | That's why the various alternatives need to be mapped out. | 16:31 |
| markvoel_ | ++ | 16:31 |
| Rockyg | And, yes direction from them, but we need to provide the least biased analysis we can. | 16:31 |
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| markvoel_ | So, hogepodge: last week we discussed having an official proposal drawn up so we could collaborate and vote on it via gerrit...if that's approaching readiness it might be useful to highlight as one of the options on the table | 16:32 |
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| Rockyg | ++ | 16:33 |
| hogepodge | markvoel_: yeah, I can send it up today | 16:33 |
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| Rockyg | thanks, hogepodge | 16:34 |
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| markvoel_ | hogepodge: OK, great. I'll have a draft of the Board packet document ready later this week (probably tomorrow), so I'll add it once I get the link | 16:34 |
| markvoel_ | VanL: I'll also try to incorporate some the questions you've posted to the pad here (and the ones that have come up over the course of the debate). | 16:35 |
| VanL | markvoel_: That is about the same thing that I wanted to discuss, so I don't have any more at this point. Where would discussion of the board packet take place once it is shared? | 16:35 |
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| markvoel_ | VanL: we usually do it as a Google doc, so I'll send out a link to the ML once Egle and I have hashed through it a bit and solicit comments from | 16:36 |
| Rockyg | I'd like to throw out something to the group: "OpenStack Compatible" | 16:36 |
| markvoel_ | Rockyg: You mean this thing? http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-compatible/ | 16:37 |
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| Rockyg | It is a mark that the foundation provides but it really doesn't have a fixed, immutable definition | 16:37 |
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| Rockyg | Yup. Some focus is needed on that. | 16:37 |
| VanL | markvoel_: Thanks. | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | But isit us, another wg, or what | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | It | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | is pretty much "if it's in our tree and it's a driver, it's compatible" | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | But that has lots of gaps and gotchas | 16:38 |
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| Rockyg | We, as defcore, need to get the board focused on getting that better defined | 16:39 |
| Rockyg | Or a process around getting it or something | 16:39 |
| markvoel_ | hogepodge: not sure if you have any enlightenment to offer on how the Foundation administers the Compatible logo program? =) | 16:40 |
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| hogepodge | markvoel_: Rockyg: this is the place to start http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-compatible/ | 16:41 |
| Rockyg | Yeah. Currently the requirement is "demonstrate compatibility" and that' | 16:42 |
| Rockyg | s it. | 16:42 |
| hogepodge | where upstream testing is available (block storage and bare metal drivers), we require it | 16:42 |
| Rockyg | Elsewhere on the pages, there is a statement that if it's "in tree" | 16:42 |
| Rockyg | That statement mostly refers to drivers. | 16:42 |
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| hogepodge | it's mostly based on trust, because all products don't fall into a strict category | 16:42 |
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| Rockyg | hogepodge, right. But all the drivers are mixed together. Maybe we should at least highlight which ones have stricter testing? | 16:43 |
| hogepodge | Storage is easy, networking should be easy (and we're working upstream to define how to test network drivers), but applications are much more fuzzy. | 16:43 |
| Rockyg | Or maybe the board should. | 16:43 |
| Rockyg | Hypervisors are, too. | 16:43 |
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| Rockyg | The storage drivers, I think would be a good place to put some sort of statement if they are ok. | 16:44 |
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| Rockyg | They've got the best vetting from the dev community | 16:44 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: for storage drivers this is stated on the interop page | 16:45 |
| Rockyg | And you're right, networking is closer, but the whole stadium thing has clouded it. | 16:45 |
| hogepodge | http://www.openstack.org/brand/interop/ | 16:45 |
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| markvoel_ | Rockyg: OK, so I'd suggest that you add this to the list in today's etherpad and I'll see if we've got time to work it into the meeting. | 16:45 |
| hogepodge | Rockyg: the networking team has not been successful in defining and enforcing test standards, compared to the storage driver team. | 16:45 |
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| Rockyg | hogepodge, yup. Maybe if we can put a star or something next to the releases the storage products have certified against, the networking folks who are interested will get more serious;-) | 16:46 |
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| hogepodge | Rockyg: these discussions are ongoing, we've been working on it for a while, and bad behavior lead the networking team to not want to try and police testing | 16:47 |
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| hogepodge | Rockyg: we are actively working on it, but we can only go so far as upstream helps us with | 16:48 |
| Rockyg | Yup. Networking is notorious because they come from the "standards" way of doing things rather than the "open source" process | 16:48 |
| * markvoel_ glances at the clock and suggests moving on to our last topic unless there's something more you want to discuss | 16:49 | |
| Rockyg | please...let's move on. | 16:49 |
| markvoel_ | #topic outstanding reviews | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "outstanding reviews (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:50 | |
| markvoel_ | Last week we had an AI to review this one: | 16:50 |
| markvoel_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329727/ Update documentation | 16:50 |
| markvoel_ | hogepodge: quick question: was the new RST generated by the jsonToRst.py script? | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | markvoel_: yes | 16:51 |
| hogepodge | markvoel_: some of it, some of it was hand written | 16:51 |
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| markvoel_ | Ok, thought that might be the case...wanted to see if that script needed some love to continue to be useful | 16:52 |
| hogepodge | markvoel_: I used the output of the script unmodified | 16:52 |
| hogepodge | for 2016.01.rst and next.rst | 16:52 |
| markvoel_ | nifty | 16:53 |
| hogepodge | index and 1.5 are my work, and 1.5.rst needs an update based on catherineD|2's comment | 16:53 |
| catherineD|2 | I reviewed it and think that we should preserve the history/comment from the schema to the doc | 16:53 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: thx | 16:53 |
| markvoel_ | I'm ok with that | 16:53 |
| Rockyg | +1 | 16:53 |
| markvoel_ | Ok then: | 16:53 |
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| markvoel_ | #action hogepodge address catherineDl2's comment | 16:54 |
| markvoel_ | #action everyone review hogpodge's forthcoming patchset and we'll get this landed | 16:54 |
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| Rockyg | ++ | 16:54 |
| markvoel_ | Moving on to the test spec? | 16:54 |
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| markvoel_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317531/ Test spec | 16:54 |
| markvoel_ | gema: take it away | 16:55 |
| gema | I have not much to say | 16:55 |
| gema | other than the reviews went silent | 16:55 |
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| gema | and I am not sure how to finish it | 16:55 |
| hogepodge | I have more to add to the review | 16:55 |
| * Rockyg slinks into a dark corner hoping to avoid notice | 16:55 | |
| gema | hogepodge: cool, please do | 16:55 |
| VanL | gema: Me too, been occupied with ... other things | 16:55 |
| gema | Rockyg: you too | 16:55 |
| Rockyg | Darn, you saw me... | 16:56 |
| gema | VanL: perfect, please do :D | 16:56 |
| gema | ok, so it'll keep going | 16:56 |
| gema | markvoel_: nothing else from me | 16:56 |
| catherineD|2 | If I understand correctly seems like VanL: suggested us to add the extra properties info to the spec | 16:56 |
| hogepodge | tl;dr because openstack has many ways to accomplish a capability, it's possible for a test to require access to multiple api's to exercise a capability. this will be more true as the new image upload functionality lands in glance this cycle | 16:56 |
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| markvoel_ | Ok, we're down to the last couple of minutes here, so, allow me to suggest that we get those comments in gerrit rather than try to tackle them here today | 16:57 |
| gema | sounds good | 16:57 |
| markvoel_ | #action everyone please add your comments to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317531/ | 16:57 |
| VanL | catherineD|2: Part of what I think should be added is that defcore is a foundation of agreed-upon funcitonality (MUSTs), and does not include any MUST NOTS | 16:58 |
| hogepodge | In the last minutes, can people with an opinion on this respond to the thread I started here? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/defcore-committee/2016-June/001123.html | 16:58 |
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| hogepodge | in meeting time it's hard to nail down thoughts | 16:58 |
| catherineD|2 | VanL: ++ | 16:58 |
| markvoel_ | #action everyone please add thoughts to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/defcore-committee/2016-June/001123.html | 16:59 |
| VanL | Ok, I must drop. | 16:59 |
| markvoel_ | Aaaaand we're out of time. Thanks folks! | 16:59 |
| gema | thanks! | 16:59 |
| markvoel_ | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| Rockyg | Thanks! | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 16:59:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-06-22-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| catherineD|2 | bye | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-06-22-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-06-22-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
| VanL | I will get back to everyone about midcycle as soon as possible | 16:59 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 17:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| alaski | anyone around today? | 17:00 |
| auggy | o/ | 17:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 17:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 17:00 |
| alaski | cool, there's not much of an agenda so we can fly through | 17:00 |
| alaski | #topic Testing | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Testing (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:01 | |
| alaski | auggy: any progress on your effort, or assistance needed? | 17:01 |
| auggy | I paused work on this due to non-priority feature freeze this week but will pick it up again once I finished the thing I'm working on for that | 17:01 |
| auggy | I got devstack-gate to run and it created the devstack + configs to recreate | 17:01 |
| alaski | okay | 17:01 |
| auggy | Now I need to feed those to nodepool so it can spin up the dvsm multinode devstack environment | 17:01 |
| auggy | Once that's complete, I can run the "simple-cells-setup" command to get the target devstack | 17:01 |
| alaski | awesome | 17:01 |
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| auggy | mtreinish and the infra folks have been available to help me out with questions/issues | 17:01 |
| bauzas | \o | 17:02 |
| alaski | excellent | 17:02 |
| alaski | thanks auggy | 17:02 |
| alaski | #topic Open Reviews | 17:02 |
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| alaski | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 17:02 |
| alaski | I actually updated that last week | 17:02 |
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| alaski | I don't think too much has changed since then, but do try to keep an eye on it | 17:03 |
| alaski | #topic Open Discussion | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:03 | |
| alaski | I don't have anything on the agenda here | 17:03 |
| alaski | anyone have a discussion point? | 17:03 |
| alaski | more than anything right now I think we need reviews, most things seem fairly settled in terms of direction | 17:04 |
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| dansmith | I have something | 17:04 |
| alaski | the floor is yours | 17:04 |
| dansmith | I have been sucking at reviews lately, and I apologize | 17:04 |
| dansmith | that is all | 17:04 |
| alaski | heh. thanks for your penance | 17:04 |
| * dansmith hangs his head and puts money in the plate | 17:05 | |
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| bauzas | can I just say the same ? :p | 17:05 |
| melwitt | I too, am guilty of that | 17:05 |
| bauzas | but I have a good reason : Euro 2016 | 17:05 |
| bauzas | :p | 17:05 |
| alaski | dansmith: you are owed one virtual cookie for last weeks reviews, so let me officially present it to you on record | 17:05 |
| dansmith | hah | 17:05 |
| dansmith | woot | 17:05 |
| auggy | i want to help out in that area more as well, if anything just to keep up with everything | 17:06 |
| melwitt | I started on the instance groups migration stuff, I put what I did so far on the etherpad. still working on it | 17:06 |
| alaski | would it be useful to try to set aside some time for collaborative reviews? or do we just need more prodding? | 17:07 |
| dansmith | not for me, because the reason I have been sucking is just finding time to have an hour unbroken, | 17:07 |
| dansmith | so tying that to someone else's schedule just isn't going to help | 17:07 |
| dansmith | plus I suck at reviewing under pressure :) | 17:07 |
| auggy | it would be helpful for me, but mostly because i'm still finding my way around | 17:07 |
| alaski | dansmith: I thought you only reviewed under deadline :) | 17:08 |
| alaski | auggy: okay, maybe we can group up sometime | 17:08 |
| dansmith | I mean pressure of someone looking over my (virtual) shoulder | 17:08 |
| alaski | melwitt: saw that, looks good but I had one comment. didn't -1 for visibility though | 17:08 |
| dansmith | really, I just said that so I don't have to co-review with auggy is all | 17:08 |
| dansmith | she's very demanding | 17:08 |
| melwitt | alaski: I saw your comment, just haven't gotten around to updating it | 17:09 |
| alaski | heh | 17:09 |
| auggy | i knoww.. "but whyyyyy?" | 17:09 |
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| alaski | melwitt: okay | 17:09 |
| alaski | I think that's it for this week | 17:09 |
| alaski | you all have 50 minutes to review now :) | 17:10 |
| alaski | thanks all! | 17:10 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 17:10 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 20:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:00 |
| brad_pokorny | o/ | 20:00 |
| ezpz | o/ | 20:00 |
| robcresswell | Hi all | 20:01 |
| tsufiev | o/ | 20:01 |
| rdopiera | hi | 20:01 |
| rdopiera | (I'm back!) | 20:01 |
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| tsufiev | wow ) | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ohai rdopiera! | 20:02 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, back in Horizon? | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | Meeting agenda for today is clear, it seems, so we can just move to an open discussion right away if anyone wants to raise anything to the wider group | 20:02 |
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| david-lyle | O_o | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | rdopiera: As in, back on Horizon? | 20:03 |
| rdopiera | robcresswell: yeah | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:03 |
| tsufiev | great news! | 20:03 |
| rdopiera | well, officially in a few weeks, but I'm going to start catching up to what changed already | 20:03 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, in 2 words: A LOT :) | 20:03 |
| rdopiera | yeah, I can see | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | thats great news | 20:04 |
| rdopiera | thanks! | 20:04 |
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| robcresswell | One thing I'd like to point at is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332745/ | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | Its not up for review yet, but if anyone is curious about how schema form works and what a workflow might look like, this is a good one to look at | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | you -2'd your own patch, impressive indeed :P | 20:05 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | that's leadership | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | Create net has a lot of settings interaction and intertwined fields, so its a good example of a complex workflow | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | Ha, -2 stays between patches, workflow doesnt. | 20:06 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: the commit message says "The Create Net workflow, for example, goes from 12+ files to 2" yet I don't see 10 files removed... | 20:07 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, lol | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264299/ << its in rference to this | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Which was my previous work that I gave up on. | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (apologies, still waking up) | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | No I wasn't clear in the commit. | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | The main thing is it allows us to be consistent on all the fields and field validation messages | 20:08 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, I'm going to look into it next week (once I finish debugging horizon performance idiosyncrasic issues) | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | Because at the moment, the angular forms are a bit of a duplication nightmare. | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | I'll talk through it more at the midcycle, but just wanted to get it on people's radar. | 20:10 |
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| robcresswell | The other thing I wanted ot bring up was JS docs | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | But it appears we have none of the HP folk in the meeting. | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Oh, thanks for the reminder. I need to hassle the guy who volunteered to do that generation. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Probably thought he'd escaped :p | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep! | 20:13 |
| tsufiev | a short update on integration tests failure rates: I believe that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330203/2 should fix 85% of intermittent failures, the plan is to see if it succeeds 6 times in a row - and then consider it working | 20:13 |
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| robcresswell | Thanks tsufiev | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | Was anyone able to look further into npm-run-test failures last week/ | 20:14 |
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| robcresswell | I've been away, so not sure where thats up to | 20:14 |
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| * robcresswell assumes silence means no :) | 20:16 | |
| david-lyle | robcresswell, I think not much | 20:16 |
| tsufiev | I don't recall any progress regarding npm-run-test | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | krotscheck, provided a link on instruction on how to better debug | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | but he's been pulled to other things | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | https://krotscheck.net/2016/06/01/how-to-simulate-an-openstack-infra-slave.html | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | but volunteers were in short supply | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | I'll try and rearrange things next week to get some time to look at that. The test failures are a pain. | 20:17 |
| tsufiev | btw, did anyone look towards his krotscheck new initiative - js-openstack-lib? | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | wasn't aware of it | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | I'm away Thurs/Fri this week, but then I'm all done with holidaying. | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: Thanks btw | 20:18 |
| tsufiev | they have regular meetings on Wednesdays, see http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#JavaScript_SDK_&_Tooling_Meeting | 20:18 |
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| tsufiev | I'm wondering how much attention should we pay to it, to understand if it evolves in a direction... that could be reused in Horizon in some future | 20:19 |
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| tsufiev | say, when we give up on Django :) | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it seems there's no Horizon folks in that at all | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | what's the mandate of the group? | 20:20 |
| tsufiev | JS SDK for everyone, to rule them all | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | Oh, it looks like the meetings only started last week | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | to mirror the Python openstacksdk? | 20:21 |
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| tsufiev | I think so | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok | 20:21 |
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| tsufiev | I still have doubts if Django API wrappers can handle a sufficient number of concurrent browser connections, each having Angular JS runtime firing dozens of requests simultaneously | 20:22 |
| tsufiev | and if it can't, js-openstack-lib could be the thing that we need | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: but a browser won't fire "dozens of requests simultaneously" ... all current browsers throttle to around half a dozen | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | I think if we get to a stage where the API layer is the constraining factor, then I'd be quite happy actually :) | 20:23 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, then imagine there are 50 browsers concurrently asking for some stuff | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: yep | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I remain dubious about CORS being something operators want to have to deal with | 20:24 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, these moments seem to happen very suddenly :) | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but we'll see how it plays out I guess | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | This is true. I just think talking about replacing the API layer is rather premature optimisation in this case. | 20:24 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, like our current setup with Horizon + Contrail behind Neutron, where to render project/networks page with a small number of resources it takes 26 seconds for Horizon | 20:25 |
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| tsufiev | becuase it seems to fetch half of the underlying cloud resources | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | Yep | 20:25 |
| tsufiev | by our I meant some downstream installation | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | Just comes back to reviewing and being wary of any api calls being made, and paying attention to what can sensibly be cached | 20:26 |
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| robcresswell | If you have suggestions, we can discuss at the midcycle too | 20:26 |
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| robcresswell | tsufiev: I imagine your performance investigations will throw up some interesting optimisations for all of horizon too :) | 20:27 |
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| robcresswell | Perhaps we could repurpose https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/doc/source/faq.rst for notes on those config issues too. | 20:28 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, I'm crossing fingers on my every hand and leg the result of these investigations will not be 'do not use horizon' :D | 20:28 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle, r1chardj0n3s: At the summit, OSIC were talking about running tests on large-ish deployments for performance data | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | Could we leverage that at all, and nab some logs on Horizon? | 20:30 |
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| tsufiev | robcresswell, I heard this thing in Tokyo :P | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I made enquiries about that back then but heard nothing useful, with no follow-up I'm afraid | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | we need a formal request to use the cluster | 20:31 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | my formal request to use the cluster is still in the queue it seems | 20:31 |
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| david-lyle | oh | 20:31 |
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| david-lyle | well then I see great success | 20:32 |
| tsufiev | by the way, the original plan for performance testing was to combine osprofiler middleware and rally benchmarks using fake resources | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | fake resources would miss most of the point IMO | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | it's the API calls that kill us | 20:32 |
| tsufiev | we're still in the middle of migrating osprofiler to new mongodb driver, which should speed up data retrieval on horizon side | 20:32 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, yes, it would be closer to 'performance sanity testing' - speaking of a reasonable number of calls | 20:33 |
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| tsufiev | still something to start with :) | 20:33 |
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| david-lyle | better than now, for sure | 20:34 |
| tsufiev | anyways, I hope that we'll make some progress in osprofiler/horizon area by the beginning of midcycle | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | Sounds good | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | Any other efforts that need discussion/ have been bottlenecked by reviews etc? | 20:35 |
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| robcresswell | Cool, lets call it there. Thanks everyone! | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 20:37:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-06-22-20.00.html | 20:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-06-22-20.00.txt | 20:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-06-22-20.00.log.html | 20:37 |
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