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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 28 14:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
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| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:00 |
| andrearosa | ji | 14:00 |
| diana_clarke | o/ | 14:00 |
| mdbooth | o/ | 14:00 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:00 |
| PaulMurray | Hi all | 14:00 |
| andreas_s | o/ | 14:00 |
| luis5tb | o/ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| PaulMurray | agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:00 |
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| PaulMurray | Did anyone notice that the agenda was up last friday ! ? | 14:01 |
| * kashyap didn't | 14:01 | |
| * PaulMurray organized for once | 14:01 | |
| luis5tb | :D | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Non-priority features | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Non-priority features (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:02 | |
| paul-carlton2 | hi | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | June 30: non-priority feature freeze | 14:02 |
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| PaulMurray | two days away | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | so a quick check for anything that needs to be pushed along | 14:02 |
| kashyap | Here's the URL, that PaulMurray has been shy to post here :-) - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:02 |
| paul-carlton2 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308198 | 14:02 |
| paul-carlton2 | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328280 | 14:03 |
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| PaulMurray | kashyap, its up a few lines ^^^^ | 14:03 |
| * PaulMurray not so shy | 14:03 | |
| kashyap | Oh, then I joined late :-) Sorry | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | immediately before you joined in fact | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | :) | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | I found Re-Proposes to check destination on migrations is complete | 14:04 |
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| PaulMurray | I haven't looked today | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | Automatic Live Migration Completion (luis5tb, pkoniszewski, paul-carlton) | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | how is this one going ? ^^ | 14:04 |
| pkoniszewski | well, it is in very good shape | 14:04 |
| luis5tb | looking good | 14:04 |
| pkoniszewski | i think everything is already accepted | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | looks nearly there | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/auto-live-migration-completion | 14:05 |
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| pkoniszewski | so we are waiting for the last +2/+W on libvirt cleanup | 14:05 |
| mriedem | yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327763/ | 14:05 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Incidentally, are you aware of this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270289/ | 14:05 |
| mriedem | danpb just pinged me to look at that one after the meeting | 14:05 |
| mdbooth | paul-carlton2: Also looks fairly close to the line | 14:05 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | Live Migration of Rescued Instances (paul-carlton) | 14:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | mdbooth, hadn't seen that | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/live-migrate-rescued-instances | 14:06 |
| PaulMurray | this looks to have more to go - paul-carlton2 ? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | no tempest test for that? ^ | 14:07 |
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| paul-carlton2 | mriedem, I haven't done the tempest test for it but plan to, been delayed, my dad died two weeks ago | 14:07 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Incidentally, how can we add a tempest test for something which hasn't landed yet? What's the dance to avoid breaking the gate? | 14:08 |
| PaulMurray | sorry to hear that paul-carlton2 | 14:08 |
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| PaulMurray | depends-on | 14:08 |
| diana_clarke | paul-carlton2: I'm so sorry, Paul. I'm learning tempest & happy to try a rescue test senerio. | 14:08 |
| mriedem | paul-carlton2: sorry to hear that | 14:08 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: yeah, depends-on | 14:08 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Thanks | 14:08 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327191/ | 14:08 |
| paul-carlton2 | I think I know what is needed to do tempest test, just need to implement it | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | the you have a merge conflict and a couple of test failures - can you fix those ? | 14:10 |
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| paul-carlton2 | yep | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | ok, next | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | Make checks before live-migration async (tdurakov) | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/live-migrate-rescued-instances | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | oops - that's wrong | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/async-live-migration-rest-check | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov said the he will skip live migration meeting today | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i had asked for a tempest test on the api changes there also | 14:11 |
| mriedem | the api change is the last thing in the series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314932/ | 14:12 |
| mriedem | it also had other issues | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | that last one is his also | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | Remove compute-compute communication in live-migration (tdurakov) | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/remove-compute-compute-communication | 14:13 |
| mriedem | that has 4 open changes, some have -1s | 14:13 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, is tdurakov just missing the meeting - i.e. is he working on these ? | 14:13 |
| pkoniszewski | he is just missing the meeting | 14:14 |
| pkoniszewski | he keeps working on | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | ok | 14:14 |
| pkoniszewski | that's what i understood | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | So a few of those are close | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | lets see if we can get them landed - call for help reviewing if needed | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | #topic CI | 14:15 |
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| PaulMurray | I think the lm job has moved to check queue ? | 14:15 |
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| pkoniszewski | yes | 14:15 |
| mriedem | the results are way up and down | 14:16 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: you mean time wise or failures? | 14:17 |
| mriedem | failures | 14:17 |
| mriedem | very sporadic | 14:17 |
| davidgiluk | got logs to look at? | 14:17 |
| mriedem | http://tinyurl.com/zcceagy | 14:18 |
| davidgiluk | logs of any of the failed ones? | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | davidgiluk: there are 2 bugs on http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/index.html related to live migration failures | 14:20 |
| mriedem | following the logstash links for those would get you some failure jobs and links ot logs | 14:20 |
| mriedem | problem is those are also for the multinode job which is running on stable branches too | 14:20 |
| PaulMurray | http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1539271 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539271 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Libvirt live block migration migration stalls" [High,Confirmed] | 14:21 |
| PaulMurray | http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1524898 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed] | 14:21 |
| PaulMurray | are those the ones you mean ? | 14:21 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:22 |
| mriedem | but like i said, e-r is also tracking failures for those from stable branches, so it skews the results a bit | 14:22 |
| PaulMurray | is there a way to tell which job they are coming from ? | 14:23 |
| mriedem | you'd have to filter on the live migration job name and master branch only i'd think | 14:23 |
| mriedem | build_name | 14:23 |
| mriedem | on the left side, in logstash | 14:23 |
| mriedem | we want to filter on build_name:"gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration" | 14:23 |
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| PaulMurray | we can look later (I expect everyone is trying right now though) | 14:24 |
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| PaulMurray | They are the same ones that have been around a long time - it would be good to find a way into them | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | so what i'm seeing is, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | it's this one http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/index.html#1524898 | 14:26 |
| mriedem | 1539271 isn't showing up in the last 7 days on that job | 14:26 |
| mriedem | so, we could try skipping the volume-backed live migration test for now and see if the job stabilizes | 14:27 |
| kashyap | Is anybody able to reproduce that 'stalling' bug? 1539271 | 14:27 |
| mriedem | kashyap: 1539271 isn't the problem in the live migration job from what logstash is showing me | 14:27 |
| PaulMurray | we tried here and couldn't reproduce | 14:27 |
| mriedem | the failures are coming from bug 1524898 | 14:27 |
| openstack | bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1524898 | 14:27 |
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| davidgiluk | mriedem: Is that still running the old qemu ? | 14:27 |
| * kashyap is reading that | 14:27 | |
| mriedem | davidgiluk: from one of the random failures http://logs.openstack.org/55/328055/12/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration/e4d241f/logs/subnode-2/ | 14:28 |
| kashyap | davidgiluk: Not modern enough for sure | 14:28 |
| mriedem | qemu-kvm 1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.2 | 14:28 |
| mriedem | libvirt-bin 1.3.1 | 14:28 |
| mriedem | these are ubuntu 16.04 nodes | 14:29 |
| mriedem | kashyap: to be fair, your answer is always that we aren't running against trunk libvirt/qemu :) | 14:29 |
| kashyap | 1.2 QEMU was released in 2012 DEC | 14:29 |
| mriedem | kashyap: this is qemu 2.5 | 14:29 |
| kashyap | mriedem: :-) I knew someone would say that | 14:29 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: OK, that's much better than it used to be | 14:29 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Okay, "I'll shut up and look at logs" | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | so the volume backed live migration aborts | 14:30 |
| mriedem | not sure why | 14:30 |
| mriedem | the live migration job could be failing for other reasons we aren't tracking yet, e.g. i saw one fail this weekend which was due to ansible failing | 14:30 |
| mriedem | but we didn't have the ansible logs from the node to see why (failed during inventory collection) | 14:30 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: Instead of holding the meeting up, can you pm and help me work through the logs? | 14:30 |
| mriedem | i'm out some this afternoon | 14:31 |
| mriedem | davidgiluk: danpb is probably best to ask questions about libvirt logs for a faliure | 14:31 |
| mriedem | in the -nova channel | 14:31 |
| davidgiluk | mriedem: ok, no problem; but I'd be happy to try and work through the logs with someone | 14:31 |
| mriedem | s/afternoon/morning/ | 14:31 |
| mriedem | work with kashyap and danpb | 14:31 |
| kashyap | davidgiluk: Yeah, happy to assist | 14:31 |
| PaulMurray | is there anything else for CI ? | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | lets go on then | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Libvirt Storage Pools | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Libvirt Storage Pools (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:32 | |
| diana_clarke | No news from me, really. Image backend reviews are always welcome though. Otherwise, I'm looking into tempest coverage. | 14:33 |
| * mdbooth is currently churning quite a lot of stuff | 14:33 | |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, diana_clarke I still want to dig into this - but later this week. (as I said last week) | 14:33 |
| mdbooth | I now have a large and growing outstanding patch queue, which I intend to prepend to diana_clarke's patch queue | 14:33 |
| mdbooth | It's long enough that I'll have to send out an explanatory covering email when it's done | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | thanks mdbooth | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | you thought we would not get there this cycle - is that still your opinion ? | 14:35 |
| mdbooth | PaulMurray: Unfortunately yes | 14:35 |
| PaulMurray | ok - I'll catch up later | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | moving on | 14:36 |
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| PaulMurray | #topic Use target VIF information on Migration | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Use target VIF information on Migration (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:36 | |
| PaulMurray | this topic is about awareness for something coming up | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/migration-use-target-vif | 14:36 |
| andreas_s | right, it requires some coordination between nova and neutron | 14:37 |
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| andreas_s | neutron work needs to be done first (new api), so what neutron is looking for is some statement from nova that this fits somehow in their plans | 14:37 |
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| andreas_s | on the other side nova of course wants to know the priorities on neutron side for this... | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | If anyone can't remember | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | the problem is to do with the port binding after live migration | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | taking too long and causing problems | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | so the plan is to bind ports in advance | 14:38 |
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| andreas_s | and happening too late! if it fails, the instance is stuck in error state on the target | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | so we're basically going to have nova ask neutron for a host capabilities during scheduling for live migration | 14:39 |
| mriedem | which is not really the same as generic resource pools/providers | 14:40 |
| mriedem | andreas_s: i know carl_baldwin is going to be at the nova midcycle, and armax might be too but i'm not sure about armax, | 14:40 |
| mriedem | we're too late in newton to do anything with this in nova, | 14:40 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes, I'll be there the first two days. | 14:40 |
| mriedem | but we should talk to them about it there if the neutron team has thought about it | 14:40 |
| andreas_s | mriedem, I know, that's not a problem | 14:40 |
| andreas_s | could also be next release | 14:41 |
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| armax | mriedem: I am working it out, do you have an updated agenda? | 14:41 |
| mriedem | andreas_s: so work on getting any design docs / background / issues put together before the meetup so we can discuss | 14:41 |
| mriedem | armax: we have an etherpad with topics | 14:41 |
| * armax looks | 14:42 | |
| mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-midcycle | 14:42 |
| andreas_s | mriedem, ok, all stuff should be covered by the 2 specs (nova + neutron) | 14:42 |
| PaulMurray | andreas_s, I would like to help get this lined up | 14:42 |
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| PaulMurray | so ask if you need anything | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | andreas_s: i've added an entry to the etherpad, if there are specs please link them in | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | what is the state of the neutron side at the moment ? | 14:43 |
| andreas_s | PaulMurray, thanks! | 14:43 |
| andreas_s | mriedem, I'll do! | 14:43 |
| armax | mriedem: if I can come, I’ll be able to participate full time July 20, so it would be helpful perhaps for the Neutron topics to defer them until then | 14:43 |
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| andreas_s | PaulMurray, I'm currenlty working on a database rework which is a prereq | 14:43 |
| armax | mriedem: but I’ll give you a more definite answer later this week | 14:43 |
| mriedem | armax: sounds good | 14:43 |
| andreas_s | to be honest, I don't think that the new api will make newton! | 14:44 |
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| andreas_s | so probably ocata | 14:44 |
| mriedem | andreas_s: i'd avoid adding a new api to neutron until we have discussed it on the nova side | 14:45 |
| mriedem | as in nova would actually use the new api and fits what we need as a client | 14:45 |
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| andreas_s | mriedem, exactly | 14:45 |
| andreas_s | mriedem, but the database restructure was planned anyhow - that's what I'm currently working on | 14:46 |
| PaulMurray | andreas_s, did you way you are coming to our mid cycle ? | 14:46 |
| PaulMurray | s/way/say/ | 14:46 |
| andreas_s | PaulMurray: I don't think there's a way, as our nova guy is also not able to come... | 14:47 |
| andreas_s | but I can try to ask my mgmt again with this item in mind | 14:47 |
| mriedem | is markus_z coming? | 14:47 |
| mriedem | i'm assuming that's your nova guy? | 14:47 |
| andreas_s | mriedem, yes, not he just said that he will not come | 14:48 |
| andreas_s | confusing sentence... | 14:48 |
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| andreas_s | he will not come | 14:48 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:48 |
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| andreas_s | mriedem, PaulMurray: So I'll update the etherpad with the specs | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | yep, thanks | 14:49 |
| andreas_s | try to get as much feedback as possible before the midcycle | 14:49 |
| andreas_s | and will brief armax and carl_baldwin to discuss that | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | and ping me if you need help | 14:49 |
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| PaulMurray | ...next on the agenda | 14:50 |
| andreas_s | In addition I'll send out a mail via ML in a minute or so | 14:50 |
| andreas_s | thanks! | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | #topic reviews / open discussion | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews / open discussion (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:50 | |
| PaulMurray | nothing on the agenda | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | does anyone have anything ? | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | for last few minutes | 14:50 |
| PaulMurray | or we end | 14:50 |
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| PaulMurray | I'll take that as a 'no' | 14:51 |
| PaulMurray | thanks for coming everyone | 14:51 |
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| PaulMurray | lets get those last patches in for FF | 14:51 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 28 14:51:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-06-28-14.00.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-06-28-14.00.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-06-28-14.00.log.html | 14:51 |
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| sigmavirus24 | #startmeeting stable | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 28 15:01:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sigmavirus24. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 15:01 |
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| sigmavirus24 | It doesn't look lie anyone's around for the meeting? | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | I am, but I'm not that important :) | 15:02 |
| mtreinish | I'm here | 15:02 |
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| sigmavirus24 | #topic status | 15:03 |
| mtreinish | but I don't really have anything to bring up | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:03 | |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 15:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | Hey ihrachys | 15:03 |
| ihrachys | neutron gate broken | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | for liberty | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | the fix is probably https://review.openstack.org/334865 | 15:04 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Is this the oslo problem still? | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | no, it's new psql in gate | 15:04 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ah something new | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | and our liberty branch relies on it since we use it in functional job | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | otherwise, neutron is good | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | we may want to run thru kilo-eol status today | 15:05 |
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| ihrachys | sigmavirus24: are we running the meeting? :) | 15:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | Sorry, in another meeting too | 15:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | ihrachys: want me to make you a chair? I'm a bit distracted | 15:08 |
| sigmavirus24 | #chair ihrachys | 15:08 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ihrachys sigmavirus24 | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | :) ok | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | #topic kilo-eol status | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kilo-eol status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:09 | |
| ihrachys | most branches were tagged with kilo-eol. yay. | 15:09 |
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| ihrachys | sadly, some still have branches (?) | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098159.html | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | some projects (gbp for one) requested leaving branches for them | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | I am still wondering how they manage backports with no integrated gate. | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | I initially suggested that we don't make exceptions, but apparently we took more liberal direction with reducing gate coverage for branches staying after global EOL | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | do we set any timer for final EOL? | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | tonyb: you may know | 15:12 |
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| ihrachys | I guess it's too optimistic to expect Tony to reply at this time though :) | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | ok, moving on | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | #topic patches on review | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "patches on review (Meeting topic: stable)" | 15:13 | |
| ihrachys | obviously, there are patches for projects, those are covered by project teams | 15:13 |
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| ihrachys | there is a patch for project guide to cover proactive backports | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322273/ | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | reviews welcome | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | I would not mind if ttx just merges it, too :P | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | projects are welcome to experiment with the process outlined | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | any more patches worth attention by the team? | 15:15 |
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| ihrachys | prolly no | 15:15 |
| ihrachys | #topic open discussion | 15:15 |
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| ihrachys | I don't think we have anything, but giving a minute before closing the meeting | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | people are so active today ;) | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | ok, we call it a day | 15:17 |
| * ihrachys waves at ihrachys | 15:17 | |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:17 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 28 15:17:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-28-15.01.html | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-28-15.01.txt | 15:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-06-28-15.01.log.html | 15:17 |
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