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tidwellrhi15:00
pavel_bondarhi15:00
john-davidgehey15:00
carl_baldwinHi15:01
tidwellr#startmeeting neutron_l315:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 21 15:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tidwellr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:01
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tidwellr#chair carl_baldwin mlavalle15:01
openstackCurrent chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle tidwellr15:01
mlavalleo/15:01
tidwellr#topic Annpuncements15:01
*** openstack changes topic to "Annpuncements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)"15:01
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tidwellrneutron mid-cycle is coming up15:02
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tidwellrany more annoncements?15:03
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tidwellrif not, let's dive in15:04
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tidwellr#topic Bugs15:05
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tidwellrworking from the bottom of the list15:05
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tidwellroh, by the way the agenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam15:05
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160316215:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1603162 in neutron "IP deallocation failed on external system with pluggable IPAM" [High,New] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:06
pavel_bondarhi15:06
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: any progress?15:06
tidwellrpavel_bondar carl_baldwin: This looks new, any updates?15:06
pavel_bondarnot much progress yet on my side15:07
mlavalleyeah, pavel_bondar filed it a few minutes ago15:07
pavel_bondarmlavalle: that is another one15:07
mlavalleok15:07
pavel_bondarone that I filed is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160527715:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1605277 in neutron "[IPAM] 'Internal' ipam driver does not allow to delete all pools on subnet update" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:07
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pavel_bondaras for 1603162, no progress yet, but I will pick it as my next task15:08
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carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: let me know if you want help15:08
tidwellrpavel_bondar: thanks for the update on these15:09
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: sure, as I got for now this ticket is about writing UT to cover rollback case and emulating db transaction breakage15:10
pavel_bondaris it correct?15:10
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: yes15:10
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: ok, will try to do soon15:10
pavel_bondarthat is it from my side about this ticket15:11
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160053015:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1600530 in neutron "Part 2 of engine DB facade breaks metadata agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Henry Gessau (gessau)15:11
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tidwellrlooks like a fix is already in15:13
mlavalleI think that one should be closed now15:13
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tidwellrok15:13
mlavalleI'll move it to fix released15:13
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tidwellrmlavalle: thanks, I moved it off the agenda15:14
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159932915:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599329 in neutron "Potential regression on handing over DHCP addresses to VMs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)15:14
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tidwellrlooks like kevinbenton and ajo are on this one15:15
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carl_baldwinI haven't low at the proposed fix yet.15:15
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mlavallewell, it seems more like they are researching it15:16
carl_baldwin*looked15:16
mlavallekevinbenton proposed a fix but was then abandoned15:17
carl_baldwinmlavalle: could be15:17
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tidwellrI see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344545/, but it has a sticky -2 while someone does their due diligence15:17
mlavalleand ajo reported some research results just 15 minutes ago15:17
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tidwellrok, anything else to add?15:20
tidwellrif not we can move on and take an action item to follow this one15:20
tidwellrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159607515:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1596075 in neutron "Neutron confused about overlapping subnet creation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)15:20
tidwellrlooks like we have  a fix for this one15:21
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mlavalleyeah, but kevinbenton is asking the reported to do some things, right above the merge15:22
mlavalleso I say let's keep as is and keep an eye on it15:22
mlavallethe fix might be partial15:22
tidwellrah, partial fix15:23
mlavalleI would like to hear back from the reporter15:23
tidwellrdefinitely15:23
tidwellrkeep watching this one then15:23
tidwellrok, I think we've worked through the bugs. Are there any I missed that need to be discussed?15:25
mlavalleYes I want to add one15:25
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mlavallehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160437015:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1604370 in neutron "functional: test_legacy_router_ns_rebuild is unstable" [High,New]15:25
mlavalleI just raised its importance to high15:25
mlavallethere are 17 ocurrences over the past 7 days15:26
mlavalleso it warrants further investigation15:26
mlavalleI will dig in later today15:26
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tidwellrmalvalle: thanks, I've added that to the etherpad15:27
mlavallethanks15:27
carl_baldwinmlavalle: thanks for staying on top of it15:27
tidwellrany more bugs to discuss?15:27
pavel_bondarone that I filed today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160527715:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1605277 in neutron "[IPAM] 'Internal' ipam driver does not allow to delete all pools on subnet update" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117)15:28
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pavel_bondarthis one was found during analysing test failures for migration to pluggable ipam15:28
* john-davidge was just reading that one15:28
pavel_bondarI have proposed fix for it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345498/15:29
carl_baldwinpavel_bondar: good find15:29
carl_baldwinI was starting to look in to that failure yesterday myself15:29
carl_baldwinWill look at your fix.15:30
pavel_bondarcarl_baldwin: great, thanks15:30
pavel_bondarfix is pretty trivial by the way15:30
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pavel_bondarthat is probably it about it15:31
tidwellrpavel_bondar: thanks for the update, we like easy fixes :)15:31
mlavalleby all means15:31
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pavel_bondar:)15:31
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tidwellr#topic Routed Network Segments15:31
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tidwellrcarl_baldwin mlavalle: what do you have cooking at the moment?15:32
carl_baldwinI have a plan now with nova to get the deferred ip fix to merge.  Discussed it with them yesterday.15:32
mlavalle++15:33
carl_baldwinIt is official that we won't have ip availability aware scheduling in Newton.15:33
tidwellr:(, good progress was still made though15:34
carl_baldwinYes, we've done a ton of work15:34
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tidwellrcarl_baldwin: thanks, anything else?15:36
carl_baldwinJust keep plugging away.  We'll have something workable in Newton.15:37
tidwellrcarl_baldwin: sounds good15:37
tidwellr#topic FWaaS15:38
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njohnstonHi15:38
njohnstonSo the first part of the agent work is complete and merged: https://review.openstack.org/32970115:38
njohnstonthanks to all who helped with that15:38
njohnstonbut that was just making the l2 code generalized and available to the l3 agent15:39
njohnstonthe second step is creating the intermediate classes necessary for an l3 agent extension to run: L3 agent extension implementation: https://review.openstack.org/33769915:39
njohnstonI am starting to test that out now15:39
njohnstonI will file a follow-up patch with a fullstack test to really test it out15:40
njohnstonThe fullstack test creates a dummy l3 agent extension and loads it and then sends some router add/update/delete messages to the agent.  The extension communicates back over a TCP socket to say "I was called with X payload" so the test can verify the extension was called correctly.15:40
njohnstonbut I don't want to hold up 337699 while I work out the complexities of that15:40
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carl_baldwinnjohnston: ack15:41
njohnstonThere are a couple of people working on the actual FWaaS l3 agent extension (mfranc213 and yushiro) and that is coming along.15:41
njohnstonI am still optimistic that we will make Newton in good form15:41
tidwellrnjohnston: very nice, thanks for the update. Is there any help you need at the moment?15:42
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njohnstonNo, nothing per se... I think once I can get the l3 agent extension to really work, then I think it's just left for things to start plugging into it.15:43
njohnstonPerhaps in a week I will be ready for reviews on 33769915:43
tidwellrnjohnston: great15:44
tidwellrnjohnston: anything to share with the team?15:44
tidwellr*else15:44
njohnstonNope, that's it got me15:44
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njohnstons/got/for/15:44
tidwellrnjohnston: :)15:45
tidwellrtopic BGP Dynamic Routing15:45
njohnston^^ #?15:45
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tidwellroh yeah15:45
njohnston:)15:46
steve_ruanTidwellrm15:46
steve_ruanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/337662/15:46
tidwellr#topic BGP Dynamic Routing15:46
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steve_ruanthis patch need some help review15:46
steve_ruanHi tidwellr15:46
tidwellrsteve_ruan: I saw that this morning15:46
tidwellrit had subnetpools in the title so it caught my attention :)15:47
steve_ruanthis patch has a small change about subnetpool event15:47
steve_ruanthanks15:47
tidwellrsteve_ruan: I can give that a look15:47
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tidwellrsteve_ruan: how is everything else going, any updates to share?15:48
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steve_ruanstill working on evpn advertisement15:48
steve_ruanalmost finished15:48
steve_ruanwill submit soon15:48
tidwellrsteve_ruan: I see the code starting to be proposed, how is the spec doing? I haven't seen any updates for a while15:49
mickeystidwellr: I think the spec is in decent shape. Needs more reviews.15:49
steve_ruanthere is no more doubt about the spec, right?15:50
tidwellrmickeys: my apologies, I'm drowning here. I missed the updated patch set almost 2 weeks ago15:51
tidwellr#action tidwellr to look over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322654/15:51
tidwellrI was able to get the tempest tests in neutron-dynamic-routing cleaned up and running in the check jobs15:52
tidwellrI'm now more comfortable with code being proposed against the project now, the next step is to just make that job a voting job15:53
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tidwellrmickeys steve_ruan: anything else to add?15:54
steve_ruanno15:54
mickeysNothing else from me15:54
tidwellr#topic Open Discussion15:54
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john-davidgeThe Service Subnets patch has been updated since yesterday https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337851/15:55
john-davidgeThanks to everyone for the reviews15:55
tidwellrjohn-davidge: sweet, I didn't realize that was up for review15:55
john-davidgetidwellr: It's in pretty good shape now I think15:55
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john-davidgeOnce the positive reviews start appearing I'll get started on the follow-up for the port creation logic15:56
carl_baldwinjohn-davidge: thanks15:56
carl_baldwinjohn-davidge: As I recall it was pretty close.  I'll have a look today.15:56
john-davidgecarl_baldwin: Thanks Carl, your reviews have been very helpful!15:57
tidwellranything else to discuss?15:57
carl_baldwinThanks, tidwellr !15:58
tidwellralright, let's call it a meeting then15:58
tidwellrthanks everyone!15:58
tidwellr#endmeeting15:58
mlavallethanks15:58
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etoews#startmeeting api wg16:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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etoews#chair cdent elmiko etoews16:00
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: cdent16:00
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openstackCurrent chairs: cdent elmiko etoews16:00
etoewsheh. this might be a short one. :)16:00
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etoewsokay. i'm callin it. i think we'll pass on doing a newsletter this week too. not much new that i'm aware of. see you next week!16:09
etoews#endmeeting16:09
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docaedoCourtesy ping mfedosin kfox1111 kzaitsev_ws igormarnat_ sslypushenko sskripnick olaph17:00
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igormarnat_o/17:01
docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 21 17:01:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
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mfedosino/17:01
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sskripnicksup17:01
docaedo#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog#Proposed_Agenda_for_July_21st.2C_2016_.281700_UTC.29 Agenda17:01
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docaedo#topic Mascot!17:01
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docaedo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/app-catalog-mascot17:01
docaedoThat etherpad seems to have died, does it work for anyone else?17:02
sskripnicknope17:02
mfedosinmine doesn't open17:02
kzaitsev_mb-117:02
igormarnat_Frankly, I didn't look into it17:02
docaedodamn, last I saw we had quokka which was pretty obscure, a kangaroo with its pouch full of apps, and a "cat" for "cat"alog17:03
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docaedoigormarnat_: how could you miss that? It's the most important thing to deal with this cycle!17:03
olapho/17:03
docaedo:P17:03
mfedosinI vote for cat17:03
kzaitsev_mbthere's still time before 27th17:04
kzaitsev_mbless than a week though to cast the votes =)17:04
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docaedodid anyone else suggest any other animals?  If not, I can send out a poll17:05
docaedoor easier, I'll just respond to the ML thread I started with the link to the etherpad that's disappeared into the ether17:05
docaedoI'll move on, better things to disuss17:06
docaedo#topic Glare API status (sskripnick)17:06
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sskripnickhttp://r-ci.tk:8100/17:06
sskripnickthis demo site is working with glare 1.0 backend and angular based frontend17:06
sskripnickhere is the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344436/17:07
mfedosinand it's awesome!17:07
igormarnat_docaedo: I'll vote for cangaroo:)17:07
mfedosindocaedo: btw, I was wrong about 29th of July17:07
mfedosinfeature freeze in Glance will be on 30th of August17:08
docaedosskripnick: looking good and getting there! but no links to assets, and magic-search is gone?17:08
mfedosin29th is just a spec freeze (glare spec is already merged)17:08
sskripnickonly artifact listing is implemented, but I can show you more on next meeting17:08
sskripnickI just want some feedback17:09
sskripnickWill be glad to see some -1' :)17:09
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docaedosskripnick: great, I will do that today for sure17:10
sskripnickthanks17:10
docaedo#action Aedo promises to review and provide feedback on http://r-ci.tk:8100/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344436/17:10
mfedosinwe discussed it with igormarnat_ today17:10
docaedooh, on the app-catalog channel?  I missed that.17:10
mfedosinwe decided that it's good if I join the development of app-catalog17:11
docaedosure that'd be great17:11
mfedosinno, just personal17:11
docaedo:)17:11
mfedosinbecause all glare code is implemented and big features won't be added in next month17:11
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mfedosinI can concentrate on app-catalog fully and help to make it done more operatively17:12
docaedothat's great, thanks - please try to discuss ongoing development in #openstack-app-catalog and I'll be able to get more focus as well in the coming weeks17:13
mfedosinsure! will do17:14
docaedoawesome ..17:15
docaedoAny other updates on this topic?17:15
sskripnicknope17:16
docaedo#topic Open discussion17:16
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docaedoigormarnat_ or anyone else have anything to update or discuss today?17:16
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kzaitsev_mbsskripnick: feel free to grab out angular code for adding new assets and publishing drafts https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293644/ this commit and others in the queue17:16
kzaitsev_mbI hope they would be more or less easy to re-use17:16
igormarnat_Not from me, just listening:)17:16
sskripnickkzaitsev_mb: cool. thanks17:16
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kzaitsev_mbwhile you'll obviously would have to change the urls for v1.0 %)17:17
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docaedoOK I think we're done then?  I didn't have anything to add, just really happy to see such great progress from sskripnick17:24
docaedoand looking forward to working more with mfedosin too17:24
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docaedohopefully you guys will be able to make it to Barcelona17:24
igormarnat_We hope too:)17:24
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mfedosindocaedo: +117:25
igormarnat_docaedo: please prioritize review of implementation of new backend, we need to switch the sooner the better, current implementation blocks many initiatives17:25
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docaedoigormarnat_: yep, next week I'm traveling for work again, but I should be able to mix in more time starting today, and after next week should be able to focus on it17:26
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igormarnat_thanks everybody, have a good one! TTYL :)17:27
docaedoThere's a 50/50 chance for no meeting next week (I don't think I'll be able to chair), but if anyone really wants it we can adjust, just speak up on the mailing list17:27
docaedoyep, thanks everyone!17:27
olaphthanks!17:27
mfedosinthanks folks17:27
docaedo#endmeeting17:27
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: hi18:01
rkukurahi SumitNaiksatam18:01
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: seems like not too many people around today18:01
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:01
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: nothing much on my side today18:02
SumitNaiksatamanything you wanted to discuss?18:02
rkukurasame here - working on apic_aim MD, reviewing your stuff, etc.18:03
SumitNaiksatamoh yeah, good point about the spec18:03
rkukurais there an update to your address scope spec?18:03
SumitNaiksatami guess we could have discussed that if there were more people18:03
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SumitNaiksatamtbachman: hi there :-)18:03
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: hi! :)18:03
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: updated the spec yesterday after the discussion with you and the rest of the team18:04
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343929/18:04
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rkukuraok, I’ll re-review18:04
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks18:05
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: one more thing18:05
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rkukurafor the record, my personal view is that GBP should stay as close to Neutron as possible, adding only what is absolutely needed, and avoiding need to constrain Neutron resources used by GBP18:05
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i was thinking of having a integration job for AIM18:05
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:06
rkukuranothing new on that, just figured I’d mention it here18:06
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:06
rkukuraso how would this integration job work?18:06
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: integration job meaning devstack based like how we have for nfp, rally18:06
rkukuraWould it use an APIC fabric?18:06
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: no, it would exercise the AIM layer18:07
rkukuraSo no data plane18:07
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: right18:07
rkukuraIdeally, we’d have a 3rd party CI that runs against an ACI fabric18:08
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: right, and that would be a separate job18:08
rkukuraBut are you proposing one that’s hosted in OpenStack?18:08
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i am proposing a devstack based job that runs against the AIM layer, no dataplane, triggered by openstack infra18:10
rkukuramakes sense, but what test suite would it run?18:10
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: to begin with it could just be the same exercise script that runs in our other integration job (no service chain stuff), and perhaps also some functional tests from jishnu’s test suite18:11
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SumitNaiksatamwe are already using jishnu’s test suite for the CRUD operations in the other integration job18:12
rkukuraOK. Would it do anything to verify the AIM layer?18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: probably not to begin with18:12
rkukuraguess we could add that18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: if nothing else it would at least verify our devstack setup end to end :-)18:12
rkukuramakes sense to me18:13
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:13
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rkukuraI usually run the UTs before pushing a patch, but not always devstack, so this would help prevent breakage18:13
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so we would have to do this like we did it with NFP18:13
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: right18:13
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: actually that is currently my main motivation18:14
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i will post a patch to first create the hooks in GBP, lets get that merged18:14
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rkukura+118:15
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: then we can post a patch to openstack project-config18:15
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: and once that is merged we can come back to tuning the hooks on the GBP side18:15
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: okay18:15
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SumitNaiksatamthats pretty much it from me today18:16
rkukuraso would there be some initial tests, or just the devstack deploy?18:16
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: it would run the gbp exercise script which will do basic crud operations with GBP resources18:16
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: it might not pass to beging with (but it will be a non-voting job anyway)18:17
rkukuraI wonder if there are Neutron API excercises we should also run?18:17
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: that would be a good idea too18:17
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: at some point we could just run neutron tempest tests18:18
rkukuraDon’t those require the data plane?18:18
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i mean the API ones18:18
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rkukurathat’s what I was thinking of18:18
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hemanthravirkukura: can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327033 again, ashutosh has addressed your earlier comments18:18
rkukurasure18:19
hemanthravithanks18:19
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: regarding your question in the patch on why we are not allowing non-shared L2P on shared L3P18:19
rkukuraI’m a bit confused on this one18:19
rkukuraIf its just the neutron user getting its own (service) tenant_id, I don’t see a need to use different authtoken stuff18:20
rkukuraOriginally it needed admin rights, but as I understand it, now it doesn’t.18:20
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: Please go ahead regarding the sharing!18:21
hemanthraviadmin role is required not for this check, but in other methods that plug interfaces into tenant netoworks18:21
hemanthravii thought we can merge this check now and address the addition of a different user in a subsequent changeset18:21
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: the check in the code is to ensure that the L2P tenant is the same as the L3P tenant18:21
rkukurahemanthravi: Agreed that should use other credentials18:22
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igordcardhi all, just a quick update as I need to drop off now, expect updates on the QoS patch by monday18:22
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: for the resource mapping driver, my understanding is that the neutron rendering might not be possible if the L2P was in a different tenant from that of the L3P18:22
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hemanthravirkukura: would like to merge this for the end of the month release and address the new user independntly as it affect other code18:22
SumitNaiksatamigordcard: great, thanks for the update18:23
SumitNaiksatamigordcard: i will be on vacation, but will check as soon as i am back18:23
igordcardSumitNaiksatam: okay, thanks18:23
rkukurahemanthravi: The patch looks good to me now - I’ll re-review soon.18:23
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SumitNaiksatamigordcard: but i will make sure i alert the other team members as well18:23
hemanthravithanks, also noticed packstack by default adds admin role to neutron user18:24
rkukurahemanthravi: interesting18:24
SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: ah thats interesting18:24
rkukuraI wonder if RHEL OSP Director does as well?18:24
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SumitNaiksatamhemanthravi: good work digging that, if other distros also do the same thing, it almost becomes the standard thing!18:25
hemanthraviwill check on that18:25
songoleSumitNaiksatam: but, devstack just adds neutron as a member. It adds heat and nova as admin..18:26
SumitNaiksatamsongole: ah okay18:26
songolepackstack adds all as admin18:26
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: It would be good to eventually see if we really need to constrain the L2P to be the same project as the L3P. It seems useful to share the L3P more widely.18:26
SumitNaiksatamsongole: interesting that it would add nova18:26
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: note that the check is in the resource mapping driver18:26
rkukuraIf we really can’t share the L3P more widely than the L2P, then this might be an argument to think of the AS being a higher level that is shared more widely.18:27
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rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: I’m never sure what parts of the RMD are used by the AMD(s)18:27
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: the constraint is not in the API or the model18:27
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: perhaps with neutron RBAC model on networks there is a way to do this, but we havent explored18:28
rkukuraAMD = [APIC|AIM] Mapping Driver18:28
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hemanthraviwas trying to figure out AMD :)18:29
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: There could definely be a good reason for the contraint, and if so, I agree RBAC might allow relaxing it.18:29
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i love AMD, i knew a 3-letter acro was cooking up! :-)18:29
tbachmanMD == Mechanism Driver && Mapping Driver :)18:29
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: What is your PTO schedule?18:29
SumitNaiksatamgone for a week starting tomorrow18:30
rkukuratbachman: The “mapping drivers” are usually referred to as PDs (policy drivers)18:30
tbachmanah18:30
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* tbachman will get the hang of neutron lingo soon… ;)18:30
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: OK, you had told me about that last week - just wasn’t sure of the dates18:30
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: but i like tbachman’s interpretation to cover both18:30
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: that way AMD covers the PD, MD and AIM18:31
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rkukuraOK, I’ll use APD and AMD from now on18:31
rkukuraSo AMD is [APIC|AIM] Mechanism Driver18:32
rkukurano wonder tbachman gets confused18:32
tbachmanlol18:32
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tbachmanrkukura: I’m always confused.18:32
SumitNaiksatam:-( AMD was a good way to describe the whole solution18:32
tbachmanrkukura: just don’t use the word “context"18:32
SumitNaiksatamanyway18:32
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: lol18:32
rkukuraAt least the two-letter acronyms MD, ED, and PD are mostly unambiguous18:32
SumitNaiksatamrkukura is hands-down the best 3-letter acronymyst!18:33
rkukuraI’m a 3LA?18:33
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: there you go! :-)18:34
SumitNaiksatamall right, if nothing else, i guess we can wrap up, i didnt have much of an agenda planned for today18:34
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rkukura+118:35
SumitNaiksatamif nothing urgent comes up, we will skip next week’s meeting18:35
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SumitNaiksatamthanks all for attending18:35
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thanks!18:35
SumitNaiksatambye!18:35
rkukurabye18:35
hemanthravibye18:35
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songolebye18:35
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SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:35
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shamailHi dabukalam and MeganR19:02
shamail#startmeeting auc19:02
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shamailAnyone here for the AUC Recognition WG meeting?19:04
MeganRI am  :)19:04
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shamailYay!19:04
MeganRlol19:05
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MeganRI played with Google Forms a little bit.19:05
shamailHonestly, not much to cover this week (mainly status updates) so it’s going to be a quick meeting anyway19:05
shamailNice19:05
shamail#topic Non-IRC WG data collection19:05
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shamailHow’d that go?  Any test URLs?19:05
MeganRthat's fine by me - I am out next week, and trying to wrap up a lot today and tomorrow.19:06
shamailI am out Friday - Thursday19:06
MeganRPlease keep in mind these are really rough19:06
MeganRWorking Group Participation: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1y6-pEUTJEL4gb6pISWsVjHu8HMuKwZGiOlJaGFxa0CY/edit19:06
MeganRThis is to track member participation in working groups that do not use IRC.  My thought is that each group could have their own form, so they can add in a list of members, and then each meeting go in check the box for each member, hit submit and move on.19:06
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MeganRHere is the second one:19:06
MeganRSubmission for AUC status: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1TXw9LXCH6B5ZmInmRvA3owSThZ5qmjdjd2-defimbAw/edit19:06
MeganRThis one was tough, had a difficult time coming up with more than a few questions.19:06
MeganRneed to step away for 2 min, brb19:07
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shamail#link https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/docs/Mka4NM9WSHk19:07
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shamailThere is also this approach but I agree that for a the first revision, we can have separate forms… eventually if we could have one form with the data landing in different sheets then that would be ideal.19:07
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MeganRI'm not certain that I am following - are the questions presenting as a different form - or do you want to combine WG participation with AUC Status submission19:10
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shamailI just clicked on the form you built19:11
shamailI get it now, separate forms make sense19:11
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shamailI was thinking about it different19:11
MeganR:)19:11
MeganRdidn't know if I may have copied the same link twice!19:12
shamailIn my head, I was thinking about a form that a WG chair could fill out once per release cycle that says who they are, which WG they chair, who they consider active members, links to supporting docs (etherpads, etc)19:12
shamailThe form you built is basically a weekly tracker right?  They would use it to log attendance every week19:13
MeganRyes, I was thinking weekly or per meeting19:13
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MeganRthinking along the lines of 25 lines in IRC, and if they have attend x number of meetings19:13
shamailI think that view/data (weekly) will be much more robust, only concern is whether the WG chairs would be willing to do it weekly19:13
MeganRhowever, I like your idea, whatever is easiest for the meeting chair19:14
shamailIs it just enterprise WG at this point?19:14
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shamail(as far as WGs not using IRC)19:15
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MeganRno, it is actually 3, Enterprise, IRC and Fault Genes WG (had to find their name)19:15
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shamailAh19:15
shamailIRC doesn’t use IRC :O19:16
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MeganRI might be missing a sub-group here and there. I didn't include the Ref Arch sub-group, because all of those contributors are active in the Enterprise19:16
shamail3 is managable19:16
shamailMeganR: +119:16
MeganRLol - that's funny - yes, it should be "ISV"19:16
shamailoh, lol19:16
MeganR:)19:17
shamailI think App Ecosystem WG doesnt use IRC either19:17
MeganRhmm, I will check - I looked through the WG list, but probably need to go through it again to make sure I am not missing anyone19:18
shamailI like the form though!  great work19:18
MeganRThank you19:18
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shamailIs the next step to share the form with a few WG chairs and get their feedback?19:18
MeganRNext steps: I can send both of these forms out for review with our team, and Jimmy and Tom19:19
MeganRand I can include the WG chairs19:19
MeganR:)19:19
shamail+119:19
shamailThanks!19:19
MeganRyw19:19
MeganRthat's it from me today!19:19
shamail#topic Get Active WG Members update request19:20
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shamail#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2016-July/001119.html19:20
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shamailfifieldt sent an email requesting a few updates to the script since it is being used by the member database update project19:21
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shamailI will be glad to create a patch for these changes… change 1, add a dir flag, is easier.19:22
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shamail#action Send forms out for review with our team, and Jimmy and Tom (MeganR)19:23
shamail#action Make changes to Active WG members script19:23
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MeganRsounds good19:23
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shamail#Topic review open changes19:24
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shamailTom posted a comment on a change request for the AskOpenStackMods team script19:24
shamail#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341955/19:24
shamailHis comment: I can see this making sense for deliverables that are tied to the release cycle, but this deliverable in particular is not. As a result, the change might exclude people who would otherwise qualify.19:25
shamailSomething else to tie into the thinking is: is the AUC list generated for tasks outside the time close to release cycle boundaries? For example, when does voting happen?19:25
shamailI can reply but wanted to validate my response with you...19:25
MeganRok19:25
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shamailI think we decided that for Ask OpenStack Mods we wanted to tie them with the same time window as others (e.g. release cycle) so that we can ensure that only active participants are included.  The concern is that a WG member has to be active each cycle to recieve credit even though some of their deliverables (e.g. eBooks, etc) might have a longer life (similar to Ask OpenStack Mods)19:27
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MeganRI agree19:27
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shamailIn general, we choose to focus on active as a criteria to make all contribution types as equal as possible19:27
shamail(effort wise)19:27
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MeganRwith the first iteration though, we are trying to establish a baseline, who is active, and then will tie in a date range on the same timeframe as ATC?19:28
shamailThe second part we addressed as well… which is generally we will do AUC collection at feature-freeze or RC1… we would know track chairs by then.19:28
shamailMeganR: +1 makes sense....19:28
shamailSo should first revision go back more than 180?19:28
shamailTo reward past contributors?19:29
MeganRI don't think so, we are trying to focus on current participation and the current release19:29
shamailAgree19:30
shamailWanted to double check19:30
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shamailThanks!19:30
MeganRI think if we open it to past contributors, we are undoing a lot of the "requirements" we have put in place, and need in place.  Have to start somewhere.19:30
MeganRyw19:30
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shamail+119:31
shamailThat’s all I had for today as well19:31
MeganRcool - productive meeting!19:31
shamailYep19:31
shamailEnjoy your time off!19:31
MeganRthank you - talk to you in August!19:32
shamailYep!  Cya19:32
shamail#endmeeting19:32
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