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sc`#startmeeting openstack_chef16:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 25 16:01:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sc`. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_chef'16:01
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sc`calling on account of rain16:13
sc`#endmeeting16:13
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Jul 25 16:13:13 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:13
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2016/openstack_chef.2016-07-25-16.01.html16:13
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2016/openstack_chef.2016-07-25-16.01.txt16:13
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_chef/2016/openstack_chef.2016-07-25-16.01.log.html16:13
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jroll#startmeeting ironic17:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jul 25 17:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'17:00
TheJuliao/17:00
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skramajahello17:01
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jrollhey everyone17:01
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milan\o17:01
jroll#topic Announcements and reminders17:01
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krtayloro/17:02
jroll#info ironic now has the supports-upgrade and follows-standard-deprecation tags \o/17:02
devanandawoot!17:02
NobodyCamo/17:02
devanandaMany thanks to everyone who's worked on upgrade testing!17:03
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jroll#info some discussion on nova/ironic interactions at nova's midcycle last week, please do read:17:03
jroll#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099922.html17:03
NobodyCamoh great news from the mid cycle jroll17:03
thiagopo/17:03
jrollany other announcements or reminders?17:03
thiagopOneView CI has been down due to power outage problems that affected underlying infra17:04
thiagopfixing it today, should be running soon17:04
jrollcool17:05
stendulkeriLO CI is also down due to infra getting shifted17:05
stendulkershould be up shortly17:05
jrollI noticed dell CI is failing very quickly as well17:05
jrolllike, 7 second runs17:05
jrollI assume that isn't an ironic issue :)17:05
jrollok, moving on17:06
jroll#topic subteam status reports17:06
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jrollthose are here17:06
jroll#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard17:06
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jrollline 81 or so17:06
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jrollI'll give folks a few to update / look over those17:07
* natorious waves o/17:08
Madasio/17:08
rloojroll: wrt the network isolation/nova patch, what does 'may still be able to..' mean? If the patch is reviewed and is good to merge? Or something else?17:09
jrollrloo: we missed the non-priority feature freeze, people seem supportive but haven't got confirmation from PTL17:09
rloojroll: ok, so we should review it asap then.17:09
rloojroll: also, is that the only outstanding patch (w/o portgroups?)17:10
jrollrloo: indeed17:10
jrolland yes17:10
rloojroll: gotcha, thx.17:10
jrolllooks like a lot of progress this week \o/17:11
rpiosojroll: The Dell hardware is being changed, so builds are broken.  We are looking into it.17:12
jrollrpioso: noted, thanks17:12
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jrollokay, any questions/comments on the subteam updates?17:13
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jroll#topic Alternatives for the proposed approach at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331564/11/specs/approved/boot-params.rst17:14
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jroll#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331564/11/specs/approved/boot-params.rst17:14
lucasagomesthat's me :-)17:14
jrolllucasagomes: you're up17:14
jroll:D17:14
lucasagomesso, looking for altenatives/suggestions here17:15
lucasagomesThe tl;dr of what the spec is proposing is: Having a way to the users to pass custom kernel command lines when configuring the bootloader for local boot17:15
lucasagomesand current it proposes to use the standard way to do it with grub, which is editing the /etc/default/grub and then regenerating the grub.conf17:15
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lucasagomesthe thing is that, in Ironic, we consider touching the files in the user image as a layer violation17:15
lucasagomesand the alternatives that I can think of sucks17:16
jrollis there any reason this can't be done with port-boot automation and a reboot?17:16
lucasagomesthat's one alternative, have cloud-init to set it and reboot the node17:16
jroll(and maybe have ironic do the initial grub.conf to skip the first reboot)17:16
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jrollcloud-init, or ansible, chef, etc17:16
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lucasagomesyeah, the only thing is that we could avoid that if it was configured by Ironic17:17
lucasagomesno extra reboot, which saves time17:17
lucasagomesand also is a bit weird to have a node to reboot twice after active17:17
jrollif ironic did the initial config you could skip the extra reboot17:17
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lucasagomesyes17:17
jrolljust a bit of a duplication thing17:17
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lucasagomesanother alternative is to use "grubby" which is a command line tool that can add/remove kernel parameters from the grub bootloader17:18
lucasagomesbut ubuntu doesn't package it :-/17:18
NobodyCamI kinda felt that it wasn't a layer violation as we are installing the boot loader anyway, so I looked at it like just some configuration of that17:18
lucasagomesNobodyCam, yeah, that's kinda way I wanted to bring it here17:18
lucasagomesI know it does touches the files in the image, but, that's the standard interface17:18
devanandain some cases, we're installing the bootloader (partition image)17:18
devanandabut not in all cases17:18
natoriouswhat about images that don't use grub?17:18
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jrollright, but in no cases are we touching files in the rootfs17:19
devanandaright17:19
jrollwhich seems to be the primary objection17:19
lucasagomesdevananda, exactly, that's what this spec is proposing. For when installing the bootloader for a partition image17:19
jrollwhich I tend to agree with17:19
JayFThat's the first of many17:19
JayFmy second objection would be in line with natorious's comment17:19
jrollsure17:19
JayFessentially we'd be adding an Ironic feature that is tightly coupled into the image17:19
lucasagomesnatorious, currently we only support grub instalation as the bootloader for patition image17:19
JayFwhich seems like a pretty bad idea17:19
lucasagomesnatorious, for full disk image you can use whatever17:19
natoriousit might be a good time to start full in on efi17:19
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natoriouswhich would open up options17:20
JayFAnother question I have is, why is this an Ironic-specific problem/17:20
natoriousbc that would be its own partition17:20
JayFWhy shouldn't this be solved via nova, using more standard ways of configuring instances/17:20
jrollJayF: good question, what does nova do here? do they do it?17:20
* lucasagomes don't know17:20
JayFjroll: I don't think they support anyhting like this.17:20
natoriousnova doesn't need efi boot w/ legacy emulation17:20
natoriousand pygrub17:21
jrollnatorious: I mean, how does a user give kernel args to nova, and what is done with them?17:21
JayFjroll: which is kinda my point; if nova supported it and we needed to implement it, I'd be slightly less weirded out by it, but as it sits, it seems like we're implementing a feature that has a small scope of usefulness while extending ironic's scope considerably17:21
jrolllucasagomes: also, who is meant to put the data in instance_info? operator? nova?17:21
skramajaeven if set in nova, it has to be updated to grub via another service or agent by reading it..17:22
lucasagomesskramaja, ^ is the author here17:22
jrolloh17:22
skramajaand then reboot..17:22
jrollskramaja: I understand that, I'm trying to figure out how this works as a whole17:22
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skramajabut there are services which are dependent certain args..17:22
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skramajalike DPDK depnds on iommu17:23
natoriousI didn't think nova passes in kargs outside of pygrub17:23
jrollah, I see, the operator sets the instance_info17:23
skramajabefore enbling DPDK, immou has to be enabled..17:23
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clarkbas someone that has needed to do this before (but with nova and VMs) we jsut edited our iamges and provided them to nova and it worked fine17:23
devanandajroll: nova sets instance_info, not operator ...17:23
jrollwhich... doesn't seem terribly useful to the user?17:23
JayFclarkb: that's kinda what I'm feeling the proper solution is17:23
jrolldevananda: line 14717:23
clarkbwhich worked fine for us eg nova/ironic don't need to know or care17:23
JayFclarkb: which is why I'm pushing back against ironic fiddling in etc17:23
devanandaclarkb: ++17:23
jrollclarkb: yep, makes sense17:23
skramajaclarkb: JayF modifying image is not scalable..17:24
devanandaskramaja: building your own image is very scalable17:24
skramajabecause in case differential clusters, u need to build multiple images..17:24
clarkb(we set kernel boot params to limit available system memory fwiw)17:24
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skramajawe can use introspection rules via ironic to set specific args for isolcpus..17:24
devanandaskramaja: yea, build one image per hardware type, with what ever kernel params you need baked into it17:25
TheJuliaor build local tooling to edit an existing image17:25
* lucasagomes would prefer that ^ over creating loads of images17:26
skramajadevananda: it is not just one set of parameters.. ther are multiple criterias we need to multiple combinations.. cpu isolatio, hugepages, iommo17:26
TheJulialucasagomes: I think it is something that has been done in the community several times too :)17:26
lucasagomesTheJulia, probably more people have hit that yeah17:27
JayFIt sounds like this might be a larger issue though17:27
JayFgiven clarkb pointed out they had it with nova and vms17:27
devanandaskramaja: and you can't change these from within the instance after its been deployed -- and just reboot it?17:27
JayFwhich gives me even more pause to Ironic doing it w/o Nova cooporation or at least some consensus on the ML17:27
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skramajadevananda: yes.. it is not possible because certain drivers loading like DPDK depends on immou flags17:28
skramajaand hugepages enabling..17:28
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jrollright, my primary objections are: 1) reaching into the instance and touching /etc, and 2) that there's no interface to the user here, only the operator can set it17:28
jrollif we can solve those, I'm okay with it17:29
jrollotherwise I'd prefer to leave this to post-boot automation17:29
JayFjroll: what about 3) thinking about how something like this fits in the larger ecosystem17:29
JayFfrom clarkb's comment, it's clear this isn't unique to ironic, so I'm loathe for us to move on it w/o a larger consensus17:29
devanandajroll: if only the operator can set it, this proposal doesn't make any sense to me17:29
jrollJayF: that ties into (2) imo17:29
lucasagomesjroll, 1) we can add a dependency on "grubby" so we don't touch files directly, but may not work on all distros17:29
jrolldevananda: indeed, except for deployments where op==user17:30
devanandaif the operator is setting kernel boot flags persistently on a Node, that has no bearing ...17:30
JayFlucasagomes: we're still modifying, even if we use an interface to it17:30
devanandayea, well...17:30
JayFlucasagomes: it wouldn't change the nature of my objection17:30
lucasagomesJayF, but we do modify it when we install the bootloader17:30
JayFlucasagomes: not the root fs, only the /boot, correct?17:30
devanandajroll: I agree with your objections17:30
lucasagomeswe currently mount the partition and run grub-install17:30
jrollalso, it isn't clear from this spec if this is only for partition images or also whole disk images17:30
lucasagomesJayF, right and grubby does not modify /etc either17:30
lucasagomesonly grub.conf afaik17:31
JayFlucasagomes: if it doesn't change etc/default/grub whatever it does would be non-persistent17:31
JayFlucasagomes: and wouldn't really fix the issue17:31
lucasagomesthe downside of it is that, it's not persistent on a kernel update17:31
lucasagomesJayF, right, that's why I added it to the meeting, cause the alternatives to changing default/grub are not very ideal17:31
TheJuliaI also agree with almost every objection raised thus far.  I feel like reaching into the image is a bad idea... if we want to provide a modular interface to do_something(), thats different and can be site/deployment specific... and truthfully that is what this feels like, pushing a environmental requirement into the deployment process17:32
JayFTheJulia: "pushing a environmental requirement into the deployment process" <-- A+++ summary17:32
devanandaTheJulia: agreed17:32
TheJuliaJayF: I've started and stopped typing that like 10 times now, so I finally just typed it17:32
lucasagomesok so post-deploy scripts17:32
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lucasagomesskramaja, even if not ideal, is it viable ?17:33
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devanandaand furthermore, there already exist ways to achieve the desired goal (bake the needed parameters into an image)17:33
skramajalucasagomes: i have to check17:33
JayFlucasagomes: I specifically suggested in IRC, that getting something in the configdrive and using an agent to set the options was an alternative I could be on board with. Then Ironic sets the opts for firstboot, and the agent persists them17:33
JayFlucasagomes: but that would require coming through nova and doing the work there first, since they own/manage configdrives17:33
devanandawhich we support and maintain the boundary between deployment process and tenant workload17:33
jrollJayF: which would depend on nova having an interface for this :)17:33
jrollyeah17:33
JayFlucasagomes: (although admittedly telling someone to go to nova first is slightly more helpful than telling them to screw off, today, lol)17:34
lucasagomes:D17:34
lucasagomesyeah, def we should see in nova how an interface for it would look like in parallel17:34
* jroll wishes folks wouldn't complain about other openstack project teams here :/17:34
lucasagomesok, so we can proceed from here, thanks for the ideas/suggestions/comments all17:34
NobodyCamthank you for bringing it up lucasagomes17:35
jrollyeah, thanks lucasagomes :)17:35
jrollokay, next topic17:36
jrollthere's a couple RFE reviews, should be quick17:36
jroll#topic RFE: Validate iLO SSL certificates in the iLO driver17:36
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jrollI wish this was called "use custom CA certs to validate iLO SSL certs", but oh well17:36
jroll#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/159971017:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599710 in Ironic "[RFE] Validate iLO SSL certificates in the iLO driver" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Shivanand Tendulker (stendulker)17:37
jrollthis adds a ca_cert option for ilo communication17:37
stendulkerjroll: I can change it17:37
jrollmakes sense to me, any objections?17:37
jrollstendulker: I'll comment on the review :)17:37
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stendulkerjroll: thank you :)17:37
TheJuliano objections here17:37
thiagopnope17:37
JayFjroll: not a complaint, just they're more busy than we are :)17:38
jrollspecs cores? JayF devananda rloo lucasagomes NobodyCam ?17:38
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lucasagomesno objections either17:38
NobodyCamnone here17:38
rlooi'm fine17:38
jrollcool, approving17:38
jrolland the second RFE on the agenda was approved earlier today17:39
JayFI have +2s on that spec already17:39
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jrollwoo17:39
rloojroll: yeah, sorry, i forgot to delete that from the agenda17:39
JayFWait, a question then17:39
JayFI thought you weren't supposed to approve an RFE that had a spec17:39
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JayFuntil the spec landed17:39
jrollthere's a spec for this?17:39
JayFbut this spec is blocked because the RFE isn't approved?17:39
jrollit's a code patch17:39
jrollnot a spec17:39
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jrollafaict17:39
JayFlol, I'm not used to being core /o\17:40
jrollhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/33879117:40
* thiagop remembers deadlocks17:40
jrolllol17:40
JayFsaw my +2 and presumed spec17:40
lucasagomes#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338791/17:40
vdrok:D17:40
lucasagomesit's code17:40
jrollstendulker: posted comments, if you update that I'm happy with it17:40
jrollokay, let's move on17:40
stendulker_jroll: Will update it17:40
jroll#topic open discussion17:40
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jrollstendulker_: thanks :)17:40
jrollanyone have anything for open discussion?17:41
stendulker_jroll: there is a config drive related RFE for quiet some time https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33879117:41
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jrollstendulker_: wrong link?17:41
JayFstendulker_: that's a wrong link, I think? That's what we just looked at17:41
stendulker_jroll: Would you please comment on fate of that as well17:41
stendulker_jroll: https://launchpad.net/bugs/159971017:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599710 in Ironic "[RFE] Validate iLO SSL certificates in the iLO driver" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Shivanand Tendulker (stendulker)17:42
thiagopThe dynamic allocation for OneView drivers code was refactored to ease the life of you guys reviewing it. If you'd be so kind as to take a look, it is much appreciated: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286192/17:42
jrollstendulker_: also wrong link?17:42
JayFstendulker_: that's literally what we just talked about and approved?17:42
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stendulker_jroll: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/149332817:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1493328 in Ironic "No Config drive support for whole disk images deployed using iscsi based deploy" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Shivanand Tendulker (stendulker)17:42
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thiagopbtw, TheJulia: Thanks for noting that. I'm looking into it yet today.17:42
TheJuliathiagop: no problem :)17:43
stendulker_Corresponding review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230924/17:43
jrollstendulker_: really?! O_o17:43
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jrollwow, how did we miss that17:43
stendulker_jroll: review raised since Oct'1517:43
JayFstendulker_: I'll take a look at that patch today17:44
jrollstendulker_: sounds like a bug to me, no need for RFE approval17:44
jrollbut17:44
jrollwould cores help push that through please?17:44
jrollthat's a big miss :(17:44
stendulker_it touches all ironic-lib, ironic and ipa17:44
jrollyeah17:44
stendulker_all three patches in review17:44
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jrollstendulker_: can you link the other two in the bug?17:44
devanandaoh - ouch17:45
stendulker_jroll: they are17:45
stendulker_jroll: same bug id being used17:45
jrollstendulker_: I only see two, 230924 and 22511517:45
devanandait looks like last update to the ironic patch was 6 weeks ago?17:45
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stendulker_jroll: ipa is not linked. Will do that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296466/17:46
jrollyeah, that could use an update17:46
jrollstendulker_: thanks17:46
devanandastendulker_: if you can update these, I'll add them to my review queue17:46
stendulker_ironic lib is a dependency17:46
jrollstendulker_: so if you can get the ironic and IPA patches updated, I'd love to get this done soon17:46
jrollah right17:46
stendulker_ironic patch cannot merge without ironic lib17:47
jrollokay let's push the ironic-lib patch through, and I'll release it17:47
JayFI'll look over that ironic-lib patch today17:47
JayFthis aligns with our desire to get those shell scripts outta ipa too17:47
stendulker_ironic lib-> ironic -> ipa17:47
JayFit's a win all the way around17:47
stendulker_is the dependency list17:47
devanandaalso, is it worth setting up gate job for this configuration, perhaps limited to ironic-lib or IPA patches?17:47
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jrolldevananda: I think someone is working on whole disk image + iscsi CI17:48
jrolland configdrive is always enabled in CI17:48
devanandacool17:48
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stendulker_Also any help on thsi short spec would be useful https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230274/17:48
stendulker_https://launchpad.net/bugs/152675517:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1526755 in Ironic "[RFE] Baremetal provisioning using UEFI secure boot mode" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Shivanand Tendulker (stendulker)17:49
stendulker_Few cores have already reviewed it.17:49
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devanandastendulker_: are there plans for other drivers to support uefi-secure-boot ?17:50
stendulker_devananda: do not know17:50
* devananda looks towards the other driver maintainers17:50
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thiagopdevananda: not in short term for OneView17:51
jrollhm, seems like nova shouldn't have anything to do with the boot mode for the deploy ramdisk17:52
jrollI see others are okay with this thuogh, so someone correct me if there's a reason for that17:52
stendulker_secure boot enabled deploy ramdisk support is already present in DIB17:52
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devanandastendulker_: the spec seems to indicate that secure boot is a property of the Nova flavor17:52
devanandastendulker_: but doesn't this also depend on the user image?17:53
stendulker_devananda: yes. That is already there when iLO drivers enabled secure boot17:53
jrolldevananda: this is about the deploy ramdisk17:53
devanandaah. gotcha17:53
stendulker_devananda: yes. user image also needs to be secure boot enabled17:53
jrollwhich makes me wonder why nova cares :)17:53
* jroll will take it to the spec17:53
stendulker_devananda: partition image creation support is available in DIB17:53
stendulker_devananda: whole disk image creation patches under review in DIB17:54
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stendulker_jroll: thank you17:54
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jrollany other topics? 5 minutes left17:55
NobodyCamjust a quick request for reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27265817:55
NobodyCam:;p17:55
devanandaI'll comment on the spec too. I'm not sure why this is exposed to users orthogonally to the security of the instance image17:55
stendulker_devananda: thank you for the review17:56
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NobodyCamGreat meeting Thank you all :)17:58
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jrollyep, thanks all17:58
jroll#endmeeting17:58
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stendulker_Thank you all17:58
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'zaqar'18:00
flwang1anybody around?18:00
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vkmco/18:02
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vkmchi flwang1!18:02
flwang1vkmc: hey, long time no see ;)18:02
flwang1vkmc: how are you?18:02
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vkmcflwang1, good n u?18:04
flwang1today, i think the main thing is to discuss the mascot of zaqar :)18:04
flwang1vkmc: good but lonely :D18:04
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vkmc50817118:05
vkmcops18:05
vkmcdamn yubikey18:05
vkmcflwang1, I was in EuroPython last week!18:05
flwang1ah, nice18:05
vkmcflwang1, any ideas for the zaqar mascot?18:06
flwang1see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-project-mascot18:06
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flwang1so how do you think?18:11
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flwang1vkmc: ?18:22
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vkmcflwang1, I like the nightingale best18:24
vkmc:D18:24
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flwang1but it doesn't do the messager job, right?18:25
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flwang1vkmc: btw, do you know where is Eva-i?18:30
vkmcflwang1, not really...18:30
vkmcflwang1, right... about the messenger18:30
flwang1i still think Carrier Pigeon is better :D18:33
flwang1though it's too common18:34
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vkmcyeah... its being used in some other projects as well18:46
vkmcmessaging projects18:46
flwang1vkmc: ok, then i'm thinking nightingale could be a good option then18:48
vkmcyeah!18:48
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flwang1vkmc: then, let's use nightingale18:51
flwang1given you're not really active recently, so i will skip the code review discussion18:52
flwang1but i would like to get your comments on the dead letter queue spec, pls help review it, thanks18:53
vkmcflwang1, oki, thanks18:53
flwang1vkmc: btw, i will be Barcelona :)18:54
vkmcflwang1, really? awesomeeee18:55
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flwang1yep, my travel has been approved18:55
flwang1vkmc: anything you want discuss?18:58
vkmcflwang1, nothing now18:59
flwang1vkmc: btw, can you help review https://review.openstack.org/333536 ?18:59
flwang1i'm keen to get the install guide done18:59
* vkmc clicks18:59
vkmccool, nice18:59
vkmcpretty big change18:59
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flwang1vkmc: actually, not really, i just convert it to rst :)19:00
flwang1and fix some minor issues19:00
vkmcoh oki19:00
flwang1vkmc: ok, let's close this meeting :)19:02
flwang1thanks for joining19:02
flwang1#endmeeting19:02
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vkmcthanks flwang1!19:04
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