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| PaulMurray | Live migration meeting in 5 mins on #openstack-meeting-3 PaulMurray paul-carlton2 eliqiao shaohe_feng pkoniszewski jlanoux yuntongjin mdbooth kashyap kmartin claudiub tobasco tdurakov andreas_s abhishekk diana_clarke mrhillsman | 13:55 |
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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 14:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| andrearosa | hi | 14:00 |
| auggy | o/ | 14:00 |
| diana_clarke | o/ | 14:00 |
| luis5tb | o/ | 14:00 |
| paul-carlton2 | hi | 14:00 |
| PaulMurray | good morning all | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | hi | 14:00 |
| diana_clarke | mdbooth is on vacation this week | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | hi | 14:01 |
| PaulMurray | I'm in mountain time today - I don't know how you americans can do this stuff at this time in the monring | 14:01 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| * johnthetubaguy points towards a strong coffee | 14:01 | |
| PaulMurray | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:01 |
| auggy | me neither | 14:01 |
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| * PaulMurray only has black coffee - no creamer in room - agghhh | 14:02 | |
| PaulMurray | going straight in | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Libvirt image backend | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Libvirt image backend (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:02 | |
| PaulMurray | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099858.html - mdbooth email summary | 14:02 |
| mriedem | bottom change is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333271/ | 14:03 |
| mriedem | i plan on getting on that today | 14:03 |
| mriedem | now that the api deprecation stuff is mostly done | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | mdbooth, that was a very good email btw | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | all details in there | 14:04 |
| mriedem | note that mdbooth is on vacation this week | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, is he back next week ? | 14:04 |
| diana_clarke | yes | 14:04 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | good | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Storage pools | 14:05 |
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| PaulMurray | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099931.html - storage pools message from paul-carlton2 | 14:05 |
| PaulMurray | paul-carlton2, anything to add ? | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | i'm not sure which Matt is being called out there | 14:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | nope, hope to get this apporoved, talking to max from virtusso in nova room about it now | 14:06 |
| paul-carlton2 | will bug mdbooth when he returns next week | 14:07 |
| mriedem | has danpb looked at the spec? | 14:07 |
| paul-carlton2 | if it gets some plus ones dansmith says he will look at it | 14:07 |
| paul-carlton2 | I'll ping danpb too | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | we merge this one, so we can make any progress we can, in parallel with libvirt image backend right? | 14:08 |
| * dansmith nods | 14:08 | |
| paul-carlton2 | I think he has seen it, we talked about it last mid cycle i.e. in Bristol | 14:08 |
| paul-carlton2 | johnthetubaguy, yep, there is more work than there is time to do it in Newton that does not depend on mdbooth and diana_clarke work | 14:08 |
| mriedem | danpb wasn't on it, i added him | 14:09 |
| mriedem | so chances are he hasn't seen it | 14:09 |
| paul-carlton2 | mriedem, ta | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | paul-carlton2: cool, just checking my memory, sounds good | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | next | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | #topic CI | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:10 | |
| PaulMurray | Where are we with CI - I lost track a bit ? | 14:10 |
| * johnthetubaguy looks at tdurakov | 14:10 | |
| tdurakov | live-migration job - waiting for the fix from danpb | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am also curious if we have tempest tests up for review for all the new live-migration API operations? | 14:11 |
| davidgiluk | What about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1524898 ? Its' coming down to an iscsi setup thing | 14:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed] | 14:11 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338256/ and below | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | I think the plan from mid cycle was to stop testing everything in multinode job and start testing in live migration job | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | Is my memory right ? | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ah, yep | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | L441 here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-midcycle | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | TODO: enable tempest tests + micro versions for live migration in live migration job - one live migration microversion in the multi-node job - try enabling nfs(tdurakov) | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | we're already doing the first one | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: will prepare that dnm patch for nfs soon | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | that's it - you got to the line number before me | 14:14 |
| mriedem | the 2nd (only run one microversion for live migration tests in the multinode job) requires some skips in d-g i think | 14:14 |
| mriedem | and then the NFS one | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: could take a look on 2nd also | 14:15 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: ok, on the 2nd i'd ask mtreinish if there are questions, i'm not sure how he thought we'd do that one | 14:15 |
| mriedem | w/o hacky regex in d-g | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: ok, then only 3rd on me | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | something I was wondering, is do we need a functional test setup for some of these live-migrate bits, for testing the error handling and things? or does that mock out so much its not useful enough? | 14:17 |
| mriedem | yeah i'm asking mtreinish about #2 in -qa | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | any updates on libvirt fix? | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: that was on my todo list | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: ++ for testing rollbacks in tempest | 14:18 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, how do we test rollback in tempest ? | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, feels like that should be in the functional test jobs | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | we can check the affinity filters and things, as well, I guess | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray: I was thinking about at least testing it during live-migration-abort | 14:19 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, oh, I see - need to get the timing right though - could be racy | 14:19 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray: some hacky image? | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | that has no chance to finish with success | 14:20 |
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| davidgiluk | tdurakov: I've got a 512byte boot block that does that | 14:21 |
| tdurakov | davidgiluk: good:) | 14:21 |
| tdurakov | I wonder, should we first has stable job first, or I could do this tests in parallel? | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels like those negative tests are not a perfect fit for tempest as such, but thats just my take | 14:22 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, davidgiluk it sounds a little scary to be - something stable would be a good start | 14:22 |
| davidgiluk | tdurakov: http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea0c6d62391d269e2d8927a80912d479a0c5cf8a | 14:23 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, functional tests would be good - may need some framework building behind it | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | davidgiluk: thanks | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | PaulMurray: agree, I'd wait for existing job being stable first, will prepare WIP patch anyway | 14:24 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, thanks | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we will need that deep testing once we start doing the statemachine work, just checking where it is on folks radar | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I have been thinking about it - the state space is enormous for lm | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, but worth some effort | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, maybe we can talk about it later | 14:26 |
| PaulMurray | (like next week) | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 14:26 |
| * tdurakov started working on docs for state machine, as discussed on mid-cycle | 14:26 | |
| PaulMurray | ah - actually I've got some holiday coming up - but will go over anyway | 14:27 |
| * johnthetubaguy is looking at neutron and cinder bits of the live-migrate statemachine, in preparation for the neutron mid-cycle | 14:27 | |
| mriedem | note that dansmith brought up the need for a dsvm-integration job in nova | 14:27 |
| mriedem | which would be backed by devstack | 14:27 |
| mriedem | so not living in nova/tests/functional | 14:27 |
| mriedem | so it wouldn't be tempest tests, just in tree tests that use a real backend | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I think it gets split between both of those | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | but...nova-dsvm-integration requiring 2 nodes gets a bit wonky | 14:28 |
| mriedem | at least on a single-node dev vm | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh... hmm. | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | forgot about that | 14:28 |
| mriedem | anyway, something to think about | 14:28 |
| PaulMurray | lots of stuff to think about it seems | 14:29 |
| PaulMurray | but I think we have an immediate plan | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | so lets move on | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Networking | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Networking (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:30 | |
| PaulMurray | a couple of things to bring up here | 14:30 |
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| PaulMurray | from mid cycle: | 14:31 |
| PaulMurray | Swami's DVR fix to be merged when tempest test passes | 14:31 |
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| PaulMurray | fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073 | 14:31 |
| PaulMurray | tempest: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286855 | 14:31 |
| mriedem | has to be rebased | 14:31 |
| mriedem | the nova change | 14:31 |
| mriedem | b/c the pci migration chagne merged | 14:31 |
| PaulMurray | I'm not sure if swami is aware of the decision from last week | 14:32 |
| mriedem | the tempest test passed last week btw | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | I can tell him | 14:32 |
| mriedem | PaulMurray: L89 here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-midcycle | 14:32 |
| mriedem | for notes | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | thanks | 14:32 |
| PaulMurray | following on from that... | 14:33 |
| PaulMurray | Future port info spec to be worked on for Occata | 14:33 |
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| PaulMurray | Current form: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309416 | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am attending the neutron midcyle to try and connect our efforts up a little bit more, the new live-migrate flow will by a bit part of that | 14:34 |
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| PaulMurray | I was trying to type in: johnthetubaguy is working on this | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh, yeah, I hope to look into that | 14:35 |
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| PaulMurray | I saw armax this week, he sid you had been on to him already | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, caught him on friday | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | The next item is slightly related: Bug: post-copy interrupts networking | 14:36 |
| PaulMurray | i entered a bug to make a note of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605016 | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605016 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Post copy live migration interrupts network connectivity" [Undecided,New] | 14:37 |
| * davidgiluk looks | 14:37 | |
| PaulMurray | We can't say that post-copy is serious until this is dealt with | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | and I think it will need a spec | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a good problem to focus our minds | 14:38 |
| davidgiluk | PaulMurray: Oh | 14:38 |
| davidgiluk | luis5tb: ^^^ | 14:38 |
| luis5tb | did you lose connectivity all the time? with one specific VM? | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | its not really about losing connectivity | 14:39 |
| PaulMurray | its just there is no networking while post copy is happening | 14:39 |
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| PaulMurray | at least it can speed up post copy :) | 14:40 |
| luis5tb | from after the switch until the end, right? | 14:40 |
| PaulMurray | right | 14:40 |
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| luis5tb | ok, I guess I tried either with VMs that did not have that much dirty memory after the switch, so it was fairly fast | 14:41 |
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| luis5tb | and I did not try to connect during the migration either | 14:42 |
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| PaulMurray | I expect all our tests check to see if a migration happens - could do with something to test what happens to connectivity at some point | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | during migration | 14:43 |
| PaulMurray | not sure where to do that hind of thing | 14:44 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, PaulMurray should we start thinking about switching to neutron instead of nova-network for live-migration? | 14:44 |
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| luis5tb | also related to postcopy, we did not handle what to do if migration fails after the switch. VM at destination will be cleaned up, but the one at source will be left "broken" | 14:45 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: for the live migration job? | 14:45 |
| mriedem | there is a neutron multi-node job that runs live migration i think | 14:45 |
| mriedem | i don't know how stable that is vs the nova-net multinode job | 14:46 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: yes | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | use failapotomus to find out | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | luis5tb: I think its simpler, the host just doesn't have traffic flowing to it until we tell it, which is currently at the very end of live-migrate, as I understood it | 14:47 |
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| mriedem | #action mriedem to compare live migration job results between noa-net and neutron multinode jobs | 14:47 |
| luis5tb | johnthetubaguy: yes, that I know, I was just mentioning another "unsolved" problem/issue, the bug is clear | 14:48 |
| PaulMurray | does anyone want to take an action to look at the post-copy networking issue ? | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, pkoniszewski and I talked about it | 14:49 |
| PaulMurray | we could do with a plan | 14:50 |
| luis5tb | I would like to take a look, but I'm on vacations after this week | 14:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | luis5tb: gotcha | 14:50 |
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| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I meant to say that I am interested in the networking stuff as well | 14:51 |
| PaulMurray | johnthetubaguy, I'm going on holiday for some of august too - so I'll just keep tabs on what you're up to | 14:52 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: I think this case should be covered it state transitions also | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | as it requires communication with networking service | 14:53 |
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| PaulMurray | #topic Open Discussion | 14:54 |
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| PaulMurray | anything to finish on ? | 14:54 |
| PaulMurray | I will send out a status summary email this week | 14:55 |
| PaulMurray | #action PaulMurray to send out status summary | 14:55 |
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| PaulMurray | I will be on vacation for some of august, including next week | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | can someone volentieer to run the meeting for the next couple of weeks ? | 14:56 |
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| tdurakov | i could | 14:56 |
| PaulMurray | tdurakov, thanks - you got it | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | I'll be back mid august so I'll catch up with you then | 14:57 |
| tdurakov | ok | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | I think we are done | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | thank you all for coming | 14:57 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 14:58:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-07-26-14.00.html | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-07-26-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-07-26-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting swg | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 15:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swg)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swg' | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| amrith | #chair dhellmann | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann | 15:00 |
| amrith | #chair ttx | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann ttx | 15:00 |
| amrith | #chair gothicmindfood | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood ttx | 15:00 |
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| * amrith confesses to being totally out of it today; following instructions on the side of the container, will not operate any heavy machinery | 15:01 | |
| jroll | \o | 15:01 |
| carolbarrett | hi | 15:01 |
| amrith | hello | 15:01 |
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| amrith | jroll, dhellmann carolbarrett | 15:01 |
| amrith | gothicmindfood sends her apologies, can't attend today | 15:01 |
| amrith | has an update for us | 15:01 |
| amrith | let's wait a couple of minutes for others to join | 15:02 |
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| amrith | let's get going, can't see any of the others as being active on IRC | 15:03 |
| thingee | o/ | 15:03 |
| amrith | I suspect that the agenda and meeting date confusion could have contributed to this | 15:03 |
| amrith | hi thingee | 15:03 |
| thingee | hi hi hi | 15:03 |
| amrith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SWGMeeting | 15:03 |
| amrith | #topic Establish schedule for weekly meeting | 15:04 |
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| amrith | We currently have a bi-weekly meeting because of scheduling conflicts. Do we need a weekly meeting, how do we go about addressing the availability and time slots when meeting channels are available. | 15:04 |
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| dhellmann | I think we're probably going to be fine just meeting every other week | 15:04 |
| thingee | +1 | 15:05 |
| jroll | ++ | 15:05 |
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| dhellmann | we can coordinate by email in the interval, and most of what we need to do will be long-term thinking without weekly updates anyway | 15:05 |
| amrith | carolbarrett, ok? | 15:05 |
| carolbarrett | yup, works for mew | 15:06 |
| amrith | #agreed stay with meetings every other week for now | 15:06 |
| carolbarrett | oops, me | 15:06 |
| amrith | Every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Tuesday at 1500 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:06 |
| amrith | #topic Review items short list from last meeting | 15:06 |
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| amrith | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swg-short-list-deliverables | 15:06 |
| amrith | This is the short list of deliverables we put together at the last meeting | 15:07 |
| amrith | by summarizing the various action items that were taken in Ann Arbor. | 15:07 |
| jroll | "short" :) | 15:07 |
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| * amrith wonders what happened to the numbering | 15:07 | |
| amrith | whoever is fixing it, thank you! | 15:07 |
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| amrith | so, yes. Short ... | 15:08 |
| amrith | Many of the things were written up on the last day | 15:08 |
| * thingee catches up | 15:08 | |
| amrith | when everyone wasn't there | 15:08 |
| mugsie | amrith: i assume Z == Zingtrain ? | 15:09 |
| amrith | mugsie, yes | 15:09 |
| amrith | Z ~ Zingerman's | 15:09 |
| amrith | Z ~ ZCOB | 15:09 |
| amrith | contextual | 15:09 |
| mugsie | k | 15:10 |
| amrith | So one thing that we want to do is to make a set of things that we're looking to deliver in the very short term | 15:11 |
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| thingee | there's a whole page of acronyms :( | 15:11 |
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| fungi | it's secret code for the cabal | 15:11 |
| mugsie | yeah - could we do a glossary, or expand them? | 15:11 |
| amrith | What's PTL an acronym for? I don't remember that one and it isn't in the training material | 15:12 |
| amrith | ;) | 15:12 |
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| amrith | ok, so the question is this, we have the write-up that dhellmann put together | 15:12 |
| thingee | ugh don't go there | 15:12 |
| amrith | dhellmann, what's the next step/steps with that? | 15:12 |
| thingee | re: ptl | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | I'm waiting for mordred's thing to be proposed so I can write mine to refer to the list of principles | 15:12 |
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| amrith | OK, I'll follow-up with mordred on his thing | 15:13 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] to follow-up with mordred on write-up which is a dependency for dhellman's writeup | 15:13 |
| mordred | gah. sorry everybody - china ate me much harder than I originally expected | 15:13 |
| mordred | there's some great feedback on the etherpad | 15:13 |
| amrith | hi monty | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | we could spend some time turning the repeated/related items on this list into a shorter list | 15:14 |
| amrith | dhellmann, we could give that a start now? | 15:14 |
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| dhellmann | we could also fill in some of the "please explain what this means" comments | 15:15 |
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| fungi | it's almost as if the meeting is now taking place in that etherpad instead | 15:17 |
| mugsie | so number 26 (TC Passport) would be similar to https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/ ? (with more detail) | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | mugsie : something like that, yes | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | it's a combination of a "you need to learn this" checklist with "here is where you can find the information we've told you to learn" | 15:18 |
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| mugsie | OK. | 15:19 |
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| amrith | while we're watching the etherpad change, are there other questions, comments ... | 15:23 |
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| jroll | idk if it's the colors or my eyes are extra tired today, but that etherpad is incredibly hard to read :P | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | jroll : lots of ping | 15:24 |
| mugsie | yeah - whoever is white text on black bg, thank you :) | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | pink | 15:24 |
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| jroll | yeah heh | 15:25 |
| jroll | BRIGHT pink too | 15:25 |
| fungi | you _can_ tell etherpad not to show you authorship colors, for improved readability | 15:25 |
| * nikhil sneaks in | 15:25 | |
| fungi | hit the little gear drop-down to set your preference for that | 15:25 |
| amrith | jroll, is that better? | 15:25 |
| mugsie | fungi: totally forgot about that - much better :) | 15:26 |
| jroll | amrith: yes, thanks | 15:26 |
| jroll | black on white isn't working for me today either, so I think it's mostly me | 15:26 |
| amrith | so, I think we've expanded most of the "need more information" things | 15:26 |
| amrith | I guess the question is how we pick a set of things we want to do in the short term. | 15:26 |
| jroll | I think there's a natural order for some of this, right? | 15:27 |
| jroll | to do any BLC things we need to figure out what our triple-bottom-line is | 15:27 |
| mugsie | amrith: yeah, there is a lot stuff there | 15:27 |
| alexismonville | jroll: can you explain the natural ? | 15:27 |
| jroll | alexismonville: as in, some of these depend on others | 15:28 |
| jroll | see BLC above | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | I don't remember blc depending on the triple-bottom-line? | 15:28 |
| mugsie | some things can happen out of band from the rest - things like Extra-ATC dates | 15:29 |
| amrith | I agree with dhellmann | 15:29 |
| amrith | but I think there was a meta question here | 15:29 |
| amrith | how did Z's bootstrap this beast? | 15:29 |
| jroll | dhellmann: mmm, maybe I'm off | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | I do think it would be useful to identify which things depend on others | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | jroll : you could be right, I just don't remember it | 15:29 |
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| amrith | dhellmann, I think you are correct. looking at the book it seems to be that BLC is the process for adopting a change | 15:29 |
| amrith | it does require a vision statement | 15:30 |
| amrith | but not necessarily a triple bottom line | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | blc was the process for *communicating* a change | 15:30 |
| jroll | yeah, I think doug may be right, I conflated the similar words | 15:30 |
| amrith | I guess the tbl flows from the vision | 15:30 |
| amrith | as does the blc | 15:30 |
| amrith | but not necessarily in the same chain | 15:30 |
| jroll | so we need a vision? :) | 15:30 |
| nikhil | ++ | 15:31 |
| carolbarrett | ++ | 15:31 |
| amrith | +++++++++++++ | 15:31 |
| mugsie | looks like it | 15:31 |
| jroll | I think it's probably important to establish who our customers are early, as well | 15:32 |
| nikhil | mhh | 15:32 |
| nikhil | I thought that was sup to be research? | 15:32 |
| amrith | jroll, you had to go there :) | 15:32 |
| nikhil | research from ops/user/dev stories? | 15:32 |
| jroll | nikhil: s/establish/figure out/ ? | 15:32 |
| nikhil | perfect | 15:32 |
| jroll | :) | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | when we say who are "our" customers, who do we mean by "our"? this working group? the tc? openstack as a community? | 15:33 |
| nikhil | dhellmann: I think the objective from the training was to figure out openstack community's (ecosystems') customers | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:34 |
| jroll | I think openstack as a community - openstack is the "business" we're trying to "run". the TC is part of the leadership of that "business" | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure it's this group's responsibility to do that | 15:34 |
| amrith | I think we concluded that each of those constituencies had multiple customers | 15:34 |
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| jroll | dhellmann: yeah, that's fair | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | our mandate is to recommend things to the tc, right? so we should start by focusing on that. If one recommendation is that the TC should identify openstack's customer, then they may ask us to do that, or create another wg, or just discuss it. | 15:35 |
| nikhil | I agree, this may not be the perfect place to figure that out but I hope that some subset of individuals from here can take charge on that responsibility? | 15:35 |
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| jroll | dhellmann: agree | 15:35 |
| fungi | it seems to me that determining the tc's "customers" is easy. we have bylaws that define who votes to elect tc members. that should be the end of the matter, yes? | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | nikhil: perhaps. but we have a lot of things on this list that are more clearly within our existing charter, so let's work on those | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | fungi : customers may not be equal to constituents? | 15:36 |
| nikhil | dhellmann: true :) | 15:36 |
| fungi | dhellmann: depends on whether you're living in a corporate-owned country i guess | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | fungi : fair | 15:36 |
| fungi | i will grant that politicians in my home country seem to think their customers are the people who fund their campaigns or give jobs to their friends and family rather than the people who vote for them | 15:37 |
| amrith | so do we have a short list of things we want to work on right now? | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | amrith : perhaps as a next step we can go through this list and identify things we think this group can/should do vs. those that need to be referred elsewhere | 15:37 |
| amrith | ok, sounds like a plan to me. | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | shall we take them 1 by 1? | 15:38 |
| dhellmann | did we already do #1? | 15:38 |
| amrith | 1 is done | 15:38 |
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| dhellmann | I don't remember if there was a resolution or just a discussion in a meeting | 15:38 |
| amrith | resolution was adopted | 15:38 |
| amrith | let me find a link and put it in etherpad | 15:39 |
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| dhellmann | ok,, so that brings us to #4 | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | there are 2 documents in process there | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | are there any other items on the list related to those 2 documents? | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | #33 and #34 are related to the thing I'm writing for example | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | can we collapse those? | 15:40 |
| amrith | the only other things that I recall in terms of writing were blog posts | 15:40 |
| amrith | and 'get the word out' | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | ok, I've moved 33 and 34 up under 4 | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure the blog posts are related to those existing documents? | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | that was more of a general application of the BLC process? | 15:41 |
| amrith | more of the communication thing | 15:41 |
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| dhellmann | yeah | 15:41 |
| amrith | ok, sounds good, then before we go to 5 | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | item #4 could be retitled "specific recommendations for the TC" | 15:41 |
| amrith | mordred, if you are there, pl see 4.2 | 15:41 |
| amrith | i guess not | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | item 5 needs to wait for gothicmindfood so let's skip that for now | 15:42 |
| amrith | lets move to 5 | 15:42 |
| amrith | one second | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | item 6 looks like another specific recommendation | 15:42 |
| amrith | here's update for 5 | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:42 |
| amrith | Still working with the foundation to secure funding for the next round of training for the 5 TC members who didn't go to the first round (and anyone else who wants to go). Had some great suggestions from Mark and Lauren about who might benefit from attending in the user committee group. | 15:43 |
| amrith | If we can secure funding, it looks like Sept 14-16 are currently the best dates, so I'd ask anyone interested to please pencil those off, in anticipation of confirmation for them by the end of the first week in August, when the Foundation has said they'll let me know. | 15:43 |
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| amrith | that's update from gothicmindfood | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | is that for 5 or for 7? | 15:43 |
| amrith | one second, that was for 7. sorry | 15:43 |
| amrith | the questions for z were about bootstrapping | 15:44 |
| amrith | and such | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:44 |
| amrith | so yes | 15:44 |
| amrith | move on because she's not her. | 15:44 |
| amrith | she's not here | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | ok, so 6 can move up under 4 as another recommendation | 15:44 |
| amrith | I thnk we agree to 6, and moving it to 4 seems fine | 15:44 |
| dhellmann | ok, 8 looks like part of 7? | 15:45 |
| amrith | yes, 8 can merge into 7 | 15:45 |
| amrith | summit presentation has been submitted | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | and the new 8 appears to be one of the questions we wanted answered? | 15:45 |
| amrith | yes | 15:46 |
| amrith | 9 shoud move under 4 | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | well, that's a question, not a recommendation | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | we could rephrase it | 15:46 |
| amrith | yes, I was assuming that since 4 says tc should adopt one | 15:47 |
| amrith | we should move it there and figure out who will write one. | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | our current recommendation is to have the tc adopt a vision for itself | 15:47 |
| amrith | similar for 10; if the recommendation is that we should adopt BLC, then there's dependencies. | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | we could also recommend that the tc establish a vision for openstack as a whole, but it may not be solely the tc's responsibility to do that | 15:47 |
| amrith | dhellmann, yes. for now; define who its customers are, adopt BLC for itself. | 15:47 |
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| dhellmann | so i think 9 is best left as an open question on its own for now | 15:48 |
| amrith | that is correct; openstack vision is something we'd said the tc could talk with the board about as well. | 15:48 |
| amrith | ok, #9 stays | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | the blc stuff is a question for us | 15:48 |
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| amrith | 10 reword as shoudl we adopt blc | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | we can make some recommendations about how | 15:48 |
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| amrith | 11 is part of the questions that gothicmindfood was going to get some answers. | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | ok, so move 10 to 4 | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | agreed, so 11 can move up | 15:49 |
| amrith | yes | 15:49 |
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| amrith | reword 12 as 'define the triple bottom line' but along with openstack vision that has more parties involved in it | 15:50 |
| amrith | 13, tc define its customers; make recommendation that openstack customers must be defined as well. | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | is that something only the tc would do, or do more parts of our governance need to get involved in that? | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | (12) | 15:50 |
| amrith | I assume others would be involved | 15:50 |
| amrith | as with openstack vision, it is openstack triple bottom line | 15:51 |
| amrith | hence others. | 15:51 |
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| dhellmann | ok, so 12 won't go to 4, then | 15:51 |
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| amrith | ok. i.e. not a recommendation for the TC. got it. | 15:51 |
| amrith | 14 can go to 4, it is a TC thing (for now). | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | is our recommendation that they adopt the zingerman's model? or should we have that discussion? | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | it's currently phrased as a question... | 15:52 |
| amrith | we should have the discussion; it was the recommendation of the people on the last day | 15:52 |
| amrith | but not everyone was tehre. | 15:52 |
| amrith | there. | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | ok, so that's maybe a topic for our next meeting's agenda? | 15:52 |
| amrith | I'd be happy saying it was the recommendation that we'd like the TC to consider. | 15:52 |
| jroll | we did realize that we're pretty close to the Z consensus model already | 15:53 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] add agenda item for next meeting; should we adopt the consensus model | 15:53 |
| jroll | but we need a more explicit "live by" | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | jroll : true, so it may be a short discussion :-) | 15:53 |
| amrith | timecheck ... 7m | 15:53 |
| jroll | :) | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | 15 should become part of the discussion of 14 | 15:53 |
| jroll | +1 | 15:53 |
| amrith | dhellmann, we're half way through the list, want to continue this next meeting? | 15:53 |
| alexismonville | I have the feeling that we could all benefit from a great "live by" explanation :) | 15:53 |
| amrith | or do this offline? | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | 16 is the same as 4.2 | 15:54 |
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| dhellmann | alexismonville : I tried to elaborate on that in 14.2.2 | 15:54 |
| amrith | yes, 16 = 4.2 | 15:54 |
| jroll | oh yeah, 14.2.2 is good | 15:54 |
| amrith | it translates into "no abstain" | 15:54 |
| amrith | among other things | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | maybe this is a good place to stop, as amrith points out | 15:55 |
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| jroll | yeah, agree | 15:55 |
| amrith | ok, I will add one more #action in that case | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | we can finish reorganizing this list next time, and then pick up with the consensus discussion | 15:56 |
| amrith | #action resume updaing etherpad at item #15 at next meeting | 15:56 |
| amrith | so, we have a couple of minutes left | 15:56 |
| amrith | and in that time, ... anyone have other thoughts | 15:56 |
| amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 15:56 |
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| alexismonville | thank you jroll dhellmann I feel that this definition could be helpful for every contributor to OpenStack :) | 15:57 |
| carolbarrett | +1 | 15:58 |
| jroll | alexismonville: agree :D | 15:58 |
| amrith | so we have some action items for next meeting | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | alexismonville : thanks :-) | 15:58 |
| amrith | and I see nikhil is typing away in the etherpad | 15:58 |
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| dhellmann | fungi : see my comment about the extra-atc nomination in the etherpad; we should coordinate on a good time then I'll add it to the release schedule | 15:58 |
| nikhil | :) | 15:58 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: agreed | 15:59 |
| amrith | #action [dhellmann] [fungi] add extra-atc nomination to release schedule | 15:59 |
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| nikhil | I'd to, trying to accomplish the same on a smaller scale in glance these days | 15:59 |
| amrith | dhellmann, agreed? | 15:59 |
| amrith | action item ^^ | 15:59 |
| dhellmann | amrith : sure, we'll work that out | 15:59 |
| amrith | thx | 15:59 |
| amrith | ok, so I guess we'll all update the etherpad some more between now and next meeting | 16:00 |
| amrith | in two weeks folks | 16:00 |
| amrith | thanks for coming | 16:00 |
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| amrith | and please do vote for the swg related panel at Barcelona! | 16:00 |
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| amrith | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 16:00:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swg/2016/swg.2016-07-26-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swg/2016/swg.2016-07-26-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swg/2016/swg.2016-07-26-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| neil_ | #startmeeting networking_calico | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 16:03:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is neil_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_calico' | 16:03 |
| neil_ | Hello! Is there anyone here for the networking-calico meeting? I'm afraid to send out a reminder, so it wouldn't be totally surprising if the answer is no... | 16:04 |
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| neil_ | Well OK let's skip this week then. | 16:09 |
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| neil_ | #action neiljerram to send out a reminder for the next meeting on 9th August. | 16:10 |
| neil_ | #endmeeting | 16:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 16:10:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_calico/2016/networking_calico.2016-07-26-16.03.html | 16:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_calico/2016/networking_calico.2016-07-26-16.03.txt | 16:10 |
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| jroll | #startmeeting ironic-v2-api | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 18:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic-v2-api)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_v2_api' | 18:00 |
| jroll | anyone around? | 18:00 |
| jroll | should be a short one | 18:00 |
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| rpioso | o/ | 18:01 |
| jroll | hey rpioso | 18:02 |
| rpioso | hi jroll | 18:02 |
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| JayF | o/ | 18:03 |
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| jroll | ok, quite the crowd :D | 18:05 |
| jroll | #topic announcements / reminders | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements / reminders (Meeting topic: ironic-v2-api)" | 18:05 | |
| jroll | I have nothing, anyone else/ | 18:05 |
| jroll | ? | 18:05 |
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| jroll | so I was supposed to do a formal writeup of problems with the existing API, but I didn't get around to that | 18:06 |
| jroll | I should have it for the next meeting | 18:06 |
| jroll | also, the nova folks at the midcycle last week wanted to hear more about this work | 18:06 |
| jroll | we kind of went through some of the things we were intending to solve | 18:07 |
| jroll | they asked why we couldn't just do all of this in the v1 api via microversions, and eventually raise the minimum | 18:07 |
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| jroll | which seems functionally equivalent, as far as versioning and dropping things goes | 18:07 |
| jroll | the catch is if we want to change frameworks, if that will necessitate a v2 - I'm not sure it does | 18:08 |
| jroll | so that's one thing to think about while we work on this | 18:08 |
| jroll | if we can do it all in a v1 context without making life too hard, that would be nice | 18:08 |
| * devananda sneaks in the room, late | 18:08 | |
| jroll | one other thing: they noted that while an all in one "deploy" endpoint would be nice for users, they're considering parallelizing bits of spawn() (e.g. volumes, networking, image downloads, etc) | 18:09 |
| jroll | so we definitely want to still be able to do single pieces at a time | 18:09 |
| jroll | devananda: welcome :) | 18:09 |
| devananda | jroll: good summary so far :) | 18:10 |
| rpioso | jroll: perhaps v1 APIs could be adapted to a new v2 framework | 18:10 |
| rloo | isn't one of the reasons we want a v2, is to delete some of the existing v1 API? | 18:10 |
| jroll | rloo: right, which we can effectively do by raising the minimum microversion | 18:10 |
| rloo | or can we delete some apis with a microversion. | 18:10 |
| jroll | rpioso: yeah, that's what I'm thinking :) | 18:10 |
| jroll | rloo: we can, but that doesn't help eliminate the code or needing to think about those APIs | 18:11 |
| rloo | so that'd be why we want a v2. | 18:11 |
| * rloo doesn't want to think about v1 API if we have a newer API. | 18:12 | |
| devananda | rloo: we won't be able to remove the v1 api for a while, even if we add a v2 | 18:12 |
| jroll | well, so that's the thing - if we do these changes in the v1 API, and then eventually raise the minimum to 1.50 (for example), it's effectively the same, right? | 18:12 |
| devananda | jroll: I'm not sure it is | 18:13 |
| rloo | we should think of it from the user's point of view and what v1, v2 means. | 18:13 |
| rloo | seems like something to ask the api folks. | 18:13 |
| jroll | devananda: assuming 1.50 is where we drop the cruft? | 18:14 |
| rloo | i mean, as developers, we can do *anything* :) | 18:14 |
| devananda | rloo: we're magical like that ;) | 18:14 |
| jroll | rloo: indeed, cdent wanted to help with this (and brought up some of this last week), but is traveling today | 18:14 |
| devananda | if we were to build a v2 api in parallel, with a new framework, etc, the development process would be quite different, I think | 18:14 |
| devananda | than if we incrementally add & remove features from v1 using microversions | 18:15 |
| jroll | sure | 18:15 |
| rloo | whatever we do, i don't think we want to incrementally add/remove features? | 18:15 |
| devananda | rloo: that was, essentially, what hte nova team suggested | 18:15 |
| rloo | i mean, we want the new shiny whatever available. all available. | 18:15 |
| devananda | to incrementally evolve the v1 API to the point we want it | 18:15 |
| devananda | then drop backwards compat support by bumping hte minimum version | 18:16 |
| jroll | devananda: one of my fears with that model is, waiting to land the v2 api until everything is 'perfect' (read: never) | 18:16 |
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| rloo | i don't like the incremental evolution. it partially depends on the end/new API though. | 18:16 |
| jroll | otoh, we won't have merge conflicts and such | 18:16 |
| jroll | rloo: what don't you like about it? | 18:17 |
| rloo | would it make sense to propose what the new API would look like, then see whether it makes (better) sense as v1 or v2? | 18:17 |
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| rloo | jroll: if the api 'model' is different from the existing model, then having both as v1 is confusing to the user. | 18:17 |
| jroll | got it | 18:17 |
| rloo | jroll: eg, it would be like having the ironic CLI and OSC plugin being 'the same' based on some versioning. | 18:17 |
| devananda | jroll: while I share that concern, I also see the flip side: having a separate API would allow us (devs) to build it without impacting the current API (dealing with merge conflicts, adding a lot of backwards-compat code, etc) and allow deployers to run both | 18:17 |
| jroll | rloo: yes, that would make sense, and I think that's what I'm proposing. I don't want to make a decision yet, but it's something to consider | 18:18 |
| devananda | jroll: that has downsides too -- look at keystone for an example where folks have, after years, still not widely deployed keystone v3 API | 18:18 |
| jroll | just wanted to summarize the discussion here | 18:18 |
| jroll | devananda: indeed | 18:18 |
| jroll | it'll take some thought, and I think we need to define what the new API semantics look like, and probably play with code both ways, before we can make a decision | 18:19 |
| devananda | I'm not currently advocating for anything specific, justbrainstorming the pros and cons of each | 18:19 |
| jroll | yeah | 18:19 |
| jroll | ++ | 18:19 |
| devananda | having a clearer idea of what end goal we want to reach will help | 18:19 |
| rloo | ++ | 18:19 |
| devananda | if it's radically different from the current API (I think it will be), we should do the exercise of planning out how to incrementally get there | 18:19 |
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| jroll | yep, agree | 18:20 |
| jroll | I'm going to move to open discussion since we're not really on a topic anyway | 18:21 |
| jroll | #topic open discussion | 18:21 |
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| jroll | anything else on that topic? or other things folks want to talk about? | 18:21 |
| devananda | sure, i've got a question | 18:22 |
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| devananda | since we're talking about a plan that hinges on being able to raise hte min API version, I'd like to ask ya'll -- when do you feel that will be warranted / OK ? | 18:23 |
| devananda | I don't think anyone has yet laid out the circumstances in which we'll ever raise that, or how we'll handle it | 18:23 |
| jroll | that's a great question, and I think I'd want to see a mapping of cycle:version to answer it well | 18:23 |
| jroll | but I don't think it's crazy to give a couple cycles of deprecation and do it | 18:24 |
| devananda | historical cycle to max version? | 18:24 |
| jroll | but only for a really good reason | 18:24 |
| jroll | yeah | 18:24 |
| devananda | "deprecation" -- what's that look like for an API rev ? | 18:24 |
| jroll | that's a completely different question :) | 18:24 |
| devananda | I don't think we *can* deprecate an API version | 18:24 |
| jroll | (I don't have a good answer for that right now) | 18:24 |
| devananda | a given version of the server either supports API vX.YY or it does not | 18:25 |
| rloo | doesn't 'deprecation' mean it is supported but a warning is issued to say use 'blah' instead? | 18:25 |
| devananda | rloo: sure. but how do we send such a warning back to the user? | 18:25 |
| devananda | our API semantics don't provide a means for that | 18:25 |
| jroll | in theory, we could add a response header or something to say it's deprecated, but that's a bit odd | 18:25 |
| jroll | and doesn't help older clients | 18:26 |
| rloo | i'm going to punt all this to the api group :) | 18:26 |
| devananda | jroll: also, older clients (that might still be using o... | 18:26 |
| jroll | :) | 18:26 |
| devananda | yea | 18:26 |
| rloo | i mean whatever ironic does, should follow what openstack does. | 18:26 |
| devananda | rloo: I don't believe they've set a standard for this yet | 18:26 |
| jroll | I guess the only true way is doing lots of mass communication, right? a la keystone v2->v3 | 18:26 |
| jroll | which we've seen doesn't work well | 18:26 |
| rloo | maybe time to ask them to start then. so it'll be in place when we get there. | 18:27 |
| devananda | jroll: I think that's different | 18:27 |
| jroll | devananda: let me rephrase, that's the only prior art I've seen to dropping API things "gracefully" | 18:27 |
| devananda | for example, what if at the 'P' release, we raised the minimum to 1.6 (Liberty, IIRC) ? | 18:28 |
| devananda | that's two years / four cycles | 18:28 |
| jroll | right, that seems reasonable in theory. but we still need to find a way to tell people | 18:29 |
| rloo | wrt versioning: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/guidelines/microversion_specification.html | 18:29 |
| devananda | do we need users / clients to change anything for that ? | 18:30 |
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| devananda | with keystone v2 -> v3, massive changes were / are required | 18:30 |
| jroll | devananda: depends on the client, I guess | 18:30 |
| jroll | for the ironic cli, it isn't a big pain, maybe upgrade it and request a different version | 18:31 |
| jroll | for some client I built that only knows about 1.2, bigger pain | 18:31 |
| devananda | rloo: oh, interesting tangent - we should update our headers to match that spec, I guess | 18:32 |
| rloo | devananda: yup. i should open a bug about it. | 18:32 |
| jroll | +1 | 18:32 |
| devananda | jroll: at least your client would be able to discover (by getting an error back from the server) that it was no longer compatible with that service | 18:33 |
| devananda | jroll: deployers won't need to change anyuthing, though | 18:33 |
| jroll | devananda: yeah, indeed | 18:33 |
| devananda | that's been the biggest issue with key v3 -- deployers needed to run a new service | 18:33 |
| devananda | so perhaps that's a good indication that we shouldn't do v2 as a separate service, actually. | 18:33 |
| * devananda is merely thinking through this outloud... | 18:34 | |
| jroll | yeah, I never envisioned us doing a separate service for v2 | 18:34 |
| jroll | but more a little shim to route /v1 and /v2 to the right tree in the code | 18:34 |
| devananda | ah, I see | 18:34 |
| devananda | if we did v2 as a separate framework, we might need to run it as a separate service | 18:34 |
| devananda | or separate mod_wsgi plugin, etc | 18:35 |
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| jroll | I haven't tried, but I think it's possible to have a small wsgi app in front of both | 18:35 |
| jroll | and pass it to v2.wsgi.__call__ or whatever | 18:35 |
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| jroll | everything is wsgi, thank $deity | 18:35 |
| devananda | heh | 18:36 |
| devananda | ok. I haven't seen that done, but maybe it is | 18:36 |
| jroll | yeah, I'd have to play to confirm, but I think it's possible | 18:36 |
| jroll | maybe that's a todo for the next week or two | 18:36 |
| * jroll wants to focus on resource_class stuff first though | 18:36 | |
| devananda | ++ | 18:37 |
| jroll | put a note in my todo list though, it's one of those things that's interesting enough to hack on for an hour or two | 18:37 |
| rloo | speaking of resource_class... Jay sez it is OK for resource class value to be NULL so it might not be so urgent for ironic | 18:38 |
| rloo | (but we can discuss outside of this meeting) | 18:38 |
| jroll | +1, let's talk about that in channel after | 18:38 |
| jroll | so things for next week | 18:39 |
| jroll | 1) I'll actually formalize our grunts with v1 api | 18:39 |
| jroll | 2) someone want to talk to API folks about bumping minimum microversion? maybe ML? | 18:39 |
| jroll | 3) I'll play with dual-wsgi-framework things over the next week or two | 18:39 |
| jroll | anything I missed? | 18:40 |
| rloo | what about the end goal? | 18:40 |
| rloo | i mean, all the others are means to get to the end goal. what is the new API going to look like? | 18:40 |
| jroll | well, we decided last time that we want to get a spec up that includes: 1) current problems, 2) what the new thing looks like | 18:41 |
| jroll | within the next couple months | 18:41 |
| rloo | oh, that spec would be good then :) | 18:41 |
| jroll | I think we need (1) agreed before we can do (2) | 18:41 |
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| devananda | +1 | 18:41 |
| jroll | and I don't have the time to do both in a single week :) | 18:41 |
| devananda | I can spend a little time today starting on (1) in a new 'pad | 18:42 |
| jroll | (or even one in one week, apparently) | 18:42 |
| devananda | and sketchiing it into a spec-like structure | 18:42 |
| jroll | devananda: that'd be helpful, I copied things from the midcycle pad into here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-v2-api | 18:42 |
| devananda | ah, great | 18:42 |
| devananda | I'll edit in that | 18:42 |
| jroll | and added quick notes from nova discussion | 18:42 |
| jroll | +1 | 18:42 |
| rloo | that'd be great. | 18:42 |
| jroll | I'll also attempt to contribute, but might not be until tomorrow or thursday | 18:43 |
| jroll | s/attempt to// (I already said I'd do it heh) | 18:43 |
| devananda | #action deva to draft current-pain-points in a spec like structure | 18:43 |
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| jroll | awesome, ty | 18:43 |
| jroll | does anyone want to volunteer to start the deprecation discussion on the ML? | 18:44 |
| jroll | (I'm happy to help summarize ideas/issues so far) | 18:44 |
| jroll | *crickets* | 18:45 |
| jroll | I can take that on | 18:45 |
| rloo | i was going to say that if no one volunteered after 2 weeks, i'd do it. thx jroll :) | 18:45 |
| jroll | alright, anything else today? | 18:45 |
| jroll | lol | 18:45 |
| jroll | rloo: saying that is just going to make me procrastinate :) | 18:46 |
| * devananda has nothing else right now | 18:46 | |
| rloo | jroll: you can procrastinate. the point is you volunteered! | 18:46 |
| jroll | heh | 18:46 |
| jroll | alright, let's get outta here | 18:46 |
| jroll | #endmeeting | 18:46 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_v2_api/2016/ironic_v2_api.2016-07-26-18.00.txt | 18:46 |
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