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| dtroyer | anyone here? | 13:08 |
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| rtheis | hi dtroyer | 13:09 |
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| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 13:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 13:10:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 13:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 13:10 |
| dtroyer | just for the record I suppose… | 13:10 |
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| rtheis | sure | 13:11 |
| dtroyer | #topic osc 3 release | 13:11 |
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| dtroyer | osc-lib 1.0 hit the streets this morning, once https://review.openstack.org/353959 merges we'll have some gate tests running on OSC using it | 13:11 |
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| rtheis | nice | 13:12 |
| dtroyer | looks like Henry's change has a +2 from stevemar, so I'll once over that again and it'll be on its way | 13:12 |
| dtroyer | I had some integration tests I wanted in 3.0, but in reality since that testing and we don't branch no big deal if it doesn't make it | 13:13 |
| rtheis | sounds good | 13:13 |
| rtheis | stevemar has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353883/ to update requirements in osc | 13:14 |
| rtheis | Anything else for 3.0? | 13:14 |
| dtroyer | breaking news in -sdks, maybe one more fix | 13:14 |
| dtroyer | but otherwise I think that's the list we've been holding for | 13:14 |
| dtroyer | the o-c-c fun Friday and Monday set osc-lib back a few days, I needed to add the precedence fix to osc-lib | 13:15 |
| rtheis | okay | 13:15 |
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| dtroyer | I'm refining the email stevemar started in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-3.0-release to send, probably this afternoon. | 13:16 |
| dtroyer | I don't know if the release review will be ready today, I'll pudh it up whenever it is, but don't expect it to merge before Monday | 13:17 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 13:18 |
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| dtroyer | anything else you want to talk about rtheis? | 13:18 |
| rtheis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1560157 | 13:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560157 in python-openstackclient ""openstack network list" fails with "An SSL error occurred."" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 13:19 |
| rtheis | question about backporting ... do we ask them to upgrade osc instead? | 13:19 |
| dtroyer | absolutely, we don't backport except in security issues | 13:20 |
| dtroyer | I'll reply there | 13:20 |
| rtheis | thanks dtroyer | 13:21 |
| rtheis | that's it for me | 13:21 |
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| dtroyer | cool | 13:21 |
| dtroyer | one more pause for anyone else who snuck in… | 13:21 |
| rtheis | FYI: I'll be at neutron mid-cycle next week discussing osc and osc plugin | 13:22 |
| rtheis | I may miss this meeting | 13:22 |
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| dtroyer | no worries, or hot topics may show up here ;) | 13:22 |
| rtheis | :) | 13:22 |
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| dtroyer | ok then, I'll go see what mordred just posted to fix more arg handling… | 13:23 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 13:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 13:23:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-08-11-13.10.html | 13:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-08-11-13.10.txt | 13:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-08-11-13.10.log.html | 13:24 |
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| vgridnev | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 14:00:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vgridnev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| vgridnev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| egafford | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| vgridnev | o/ | 14:00 |
| elmiko | hi o/ | 14:00 |
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| tellesnobrega | hey o/ | 14:01 |
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| mionkin | hi | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | #chair egafford | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: egafford vgridnev | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | ha mode | 14:02 |
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| tosky | hi | 14:02 |
| vgridnev | #topic News / updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News / updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:02 | |
| vgridnev | working on kerberos integration, 75 % of patches are ready for review ( I think ) | 14:03 |
| tosky | I'm a bit stuck on documenting the source of the jars, but I plan to have a doc patch soon | 14:03 |
| vgridnev | tosky, have you saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351920/ ? | 14:04 |
| egafford | Starting on the Ambari image generation yaml. Going pretty well; testing is really lovely compared to DIB (since it's idempotent and in-place, so any changes already on the image are already on the image and you don't have to wait for them.) | 14:04 |
| tosky | vgridnev: ups, no | 14:04 |
| vgridnev | tosky, spark and cdh jobs are happy (main consumers of job) | 14:05 |
| mionkin | I finished work on designate and now working on replacing old CLI commands in grenade | 14:05 |
| tosky | yeah, interesting | 14:05 |
| egafford | Most of it's done; working on how best to deal with shared resources (like java setup scripts, etc.) | 14:05 |
| vgridnev | ok, not absolutely happy | 14:05 |
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| tosky | vgridnev: there are the usual quota issues, but I guess we can talk later about them | 14:06 |
| tosky | later in the meeting | 14:06 |
| vgridnev | sure | 14:06 |
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| vgridnev | one more release of client is going to be done later this week ( I think today or friday ) | 14:08 |
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| vgridnev | that will include sorting for pagination, and designate | 14:08 |
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| mionkin | it's great | 14:09 |
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| vgridnev | #topic Open discussion | 14:11 |
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| vgridnev | uh, voting for talks finished, so now we should wait for results | 14:12 |
| tosky | so, is there anything we can do to help with quota issues in the Sahara CI? | 14:12 |
| tosky | like reduce the number of the slots (even if it would slow down the jobs) | 14:12 |
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| vgridnev | is it still present? will take a look on that one more time | 14:14 |
| tosky | I think that most of the failures come from that; even in the review you mentioned above (see errors like: APIException: Quota exceeded for instance: Requested 6, but available 3) | 14:14 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | tosky: I've seen this already. For some reason quotas on ci labs went very low. | 14:15 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I've updated them | 14:15 |
| NikitaKonovalov | should be fine now | 14:15 |
| tosky | oh, thanks | 14:16 |
| vgridnev | do we need some extra ATCs for sahara? see for details: [openstack-dev] [all][ptl][tc] extra ATCs for newton | 14:20 |
| vgridnev | I can propose a commit if there are good candidates | 14:20 |
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| * egafford checks Stackalytics for the actual ATC list... | 14:22 | |
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| egafford | elmiko managed to get 2 in \o/ | 14:23 |
| vgridnev | note: Sergey Lukjanov and Alexander Ignatov already has ATC | 14:23 |
| elmiko | lol | 14:24 |
| elmiko | sadly, i don't think our group is gonna make the trip to barcelona =( | 14:24 |
| egafford | I don't see anyone missing from the list of folks who've actually submitted patches. tmckay, croberts, and elmiko all have ATC this cycle, and... yeah. :( | 14:24 |
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| vgridnev | so, who is going to travel to Barca? egafford tellesnobrega and tosky ? | 14:25 |
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| tellesnobrega | vgridnev, unfortunately i'm not making this time | 14:26 |
| tosky | 95% on my side, yes | 14:26 |
| egafford | vgridnev: I think it might just be tosky and I this time. Brazil is far from Barcelona. | 14:26 |
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| tellesnobrega | :( | 14:27 |
| egafford | tellesnobrega: Is there still a chance that you might make it if some preso gets accepted or something, or is it Just a No at this point. | 14:27 |
| egafford | ? | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | egafford, i didn't submit the preso, I got too busy with other stuff and missed the deadline | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | SotK, I would say its pretty much a firm no | 14:28 |
| egafford | Ah, ok. Well, you got a lot of other stuff done, so that's good at least. | 14:29 |
| tellesnobrega | unless some miracle happens :) | 14:29 |
| vgridnev | tosky, yes, it is easier for folks who in europe to get attended | 14:29 |
| vgridnev | this time | 14:29 |
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| egafford | vgridnev: Is it time to start talking about pruning our core reviewer list a little? | 14:31 |
| vgridnev | we can discuss that; sure | 14:32 |
| vgridnev | #topic Core review list | 14:32 |
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| egafford | We've talked about it for the last 2 cycles or so; folks who are still in Sahara's orbit a little we should probably keep, but some folks probably just aren't coming back. | 14:32 |
| egafford | alazarev has moved on entirely, and I don't think I ever met John Speidel, for instance. | 14:33 |
| vgridnev | them are no longer in list | 14:34 |
| vgridnev | ok | 14:34 |
| egafford | https://launchpad.net/~sahara-drivers/+members#active | 14:34 |
| egafford | Is this the wrong list? | 14:34 |
| vgridnev | uh, sahara-drivers | 14:34 |
| vgridnev | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/133,members | 14:35 |
| egafford | Nice. Okay, that's a pretty sensible group; there's at least a chance that any of those people could contribute a review. | 14:36 |
| egafford | We could be more aggressive in removing people, but it doesn't seem necessary. | 14:37 |
| tosky | oh, not sure it's really important, but could I be added to https://launchpad.net/~sahara-tests-drivers ? | 14:38 |
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| tenobreg | yeah, we can wait another cycle and do this again | 14:39 |
| egafford | +1; you sure do drive sahara tests. | 14:39 |
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| vgridnev | egafford, we can be more aggressive, so we need to define some policy probably | 14:40 |
| egafford | Yeah, agreed. | 14:40 |
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| vgridnev | like if you are core and there are 2 cycles with very low rate in reviews, so then sorry, you will be removed | 14:41 |
| tenobreg | maybe have a minimum number of reviews each cycle, and if the core stay below this threshold for 2 cycles, we can remove | 14:41 |
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| egafford | vgridnev: Yeah; I want to say we can make exceptions in rare cases where someone is legitimately away for a full year but plans to come back, but in that case we can always just vote to re-add people. | 14:42 |
| egafford | It's a year; that's a long time. | 14:42 |
| egafford | Any idea of a threshold for reviews? | 14:42 |
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| elmiko | probably some percentage of total reviews in a cycle? | 14:43 |
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| egafford | elmiko: Yeah, definitely. | 14:43 |
| tellesnobrega | elmiko, +1 | 14:44 |
| vgridnev | no percentage is bad | 14:44 |
| vgridnev | I ate 36% | 14:45 |
| vgridnev | http://stackalytics.com/?module=sahara-group | 14:45 |
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| vgridnev | 50 reviews per cycle is really good value; at least 2 reviews per week in cycle | 14:46 |
| NikitaKonovalov | I'd say a core reviewer should at least have a vote on all (or almos all) specs. This guaratess that the core team actually agrees on what is going to be implemented | 14:46 |
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| vgridnev | NikitaKonovalov, agreed, specs is also good idea | 14:46 |
| tellesnobrega | this is a good point NikitaKonovalov, core have to review 80% of specs, and have at least 50 reviews per cycle | 14:47 |
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| tellesnobrega | something like that | 14:47 |
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| egafford | I like total reviews per cycle; say someone is legitimately away at the beginning of a cycle (for any reason) and misses a bunch of specs. | 14:47 |
| egafford | I think encouraging the cores to always vote on specs is really good but I don't know that we should implement a cutoff metric based on it, because it could end up hurting people somewhat randomly. | 14:48 |
| egafford | I do like the 50 review per cycle rule. | 14:48 |
| tosky | uhm, I'm a bit below, need to raise my value :) | 14:48 |
| egafford | tosky: Heh. | 14:48 |
| egafford | You've got 4 left; I think you're gonna be ok. | 14:49 |
| tellesnobrega | and you can always pick it up on the next cycle, as long as you don't stay 2 cycles below that | 14:49 |
| egafford | Seems totally reasonable to me. A flat number of reviews per cycle is really easy to know if you're going to make it (so it's really transparent) and it's a good measure of contribution across the whole cycle. | 14:50 |
| vgridnev | uh, I forgot about stable main team: alazarev still there, but I don't have access to remove. I think that we need to define our team for stable | 14:50 |
| vgridnev | and, should we remove matt from core list? | 14:51 |
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| vgridnev | and probably make some replacement? | 14:51 |
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| vgridnev | tellesnobrega is in top3 right now, for example | 14:52 |
| vgridnev | I like matt -> tellesnobrega replacement | 14:52 |
| egafford | vgridnev: :D | 14:52 |
| * egafford doesn't even have to ping you about that now! | 14:52 | |
| egafford | \o/ | 14:52 |
| tellesnobrega | i like that replacement as well :) | 14:52 |
| egafford | Solid +2. | 14:53 |
| vgridnev | for stable team, I think that we should just remove andrew from list | 14:54 |
| egafford | And yeah, mattf has no reviews for 2 cycles. | 14:54 |
| tosky | definitely +2 | 14:54 |
| egafford | vgridnev: Agreed re: alazarev, I think we're ok there. We may want to replace Trevor with someone more active next cycle if elmiko, tmckay, and croberts continue to slowly drift away. | 14:55 |
| elmiko | i think you should definitely replace me | 14:56 |
| elmiko | i doubt i will be able to work on openstack after this cycle | 14:56 |
| elmiko | (if you would even call this "working on openstack") | 14:56 |
| egafford | elmiko: Do you speak for tmckay and/or croberts when you say that? | 14:57 |
| elmiko | i can't say for sure, but probably. let me ask them | 14:57 |
| vgridnev | #action I have to document our core policy somewhere, post that in ML, and then nominate tellesnobrega for core, post in ML about removing folks from stable team. | 14:57 |
| vgridnev | we have around 2 mins | 14:58 |
| crobertsrh | I am only doing a few reviews here and there. I haven't done any coding in awhile now. | 14:58 |
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| egafford | crobertsrh: Your review numbers are weirdly solid, though, so thanks. | 14:58 |
| crobertsrh | Reviews are a habit that I just can't seem to break :) | 14:59 |
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| egafford | No pressure on our side to break it. ;) | 14:59 |
| elmiko | tmckay says that goes for him too | 14:59 |
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| vgridnev | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 15:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-08-11-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-08-11-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2016/sahara.2016-08-11-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| elmiko | thanks vgridnev egafford ! | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks guys | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 15:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| pavel_bondar | hi | 15:00 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 15:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #chair carl_baldwin | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | is tidwellr around? | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | Agenda for today is here: | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-l3-subteam | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| jschwarz | \o/ | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | The obvious reminder is the Neutron mid-cycle meeting next week in Cork Ireland | 15:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | It is coming right up. Looking forward to seeing people there. | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | The other annoucement is we have to keep an eye on Newton-3 milestone | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | August 29th - September 2nd | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | so it is coming our way really quickly | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | any other annoucements from the team? | 15:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Not from me. | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | if not, let's move on | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:06 |
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| mlavalle | The first up is one that haleyb and jschwarz have been discussing in the Neutron channel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1612192 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612192 in neutron "L3 DVR: Unable to complete operation on subnet" [Critical,Confirmed] | 15:07 |
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| mlavalle | from what I got from the conversation, it might not be a Neutron issue but rather a Tempest one? | 15:08 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, there seems to be an issue in a tempest test - add-router-interface is failing, and the unwind is barfing on a port still being in the subnet | 15:08 |
| jschwarz | haleyb, mind you, I saw this happen on rally a while back as well | 15:08 |
| haleyb | but i see a DBDeadlock on create_port() so wonder if it's an ml2 change | 15:08 |
| jschwarz | maybe it's an API change that snuck into Neutron unawares? | 15:09 |
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| * haleyb feels like he slides down the pole info a fire station every morning :) | 15:10 | |
| mlavalle | so can we say that we need to research this one further? | 15:10 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, need to look further, will scream if i need help | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | haleyb, jschwarz thank you for keeping an eye on this | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1540983 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1540983 in OpenStack-Gate "Gate failures for neutron in test_dualnet_multi_prefix_slaac" [Undecided,Expired] | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | So this morning I went to logstash to try to find ocurrences of this bug | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I am using the query at the top of the bug: message:"in test_dualnet_multi_prefix_slaac" AND voting:1 | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | and couldn't find a case over the past 7 days | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | Am using a wrong query maybe? | 15:13 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: logstash wasn't cooperating for me today either, but that one is infrequent | 15:14 |
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| carl_baldwin | I was thinking there was another related one. Me trying to swap in memories of that. | 15:15 |
| haleyb | I did however see a similar failure in the dvr tests, in that case dhcp failed to start, so second VM failed to get IP, and it went downhill from there | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | ok, I'll keep an eye on it daily, to make sure we don't get in trouble close to N-3 | 15:16 |
| carl_baldwin | Could be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1609540 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609540 in neutron "Deleting csnat port fails due to no fixed ips" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin) | 15:16 |
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| mlavalle | Yeah, that's the next one in the agenda | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | and carl_baldwin and I couldn't find cases of the expected message yesterday | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | They both involve the same unit test. | 15:17 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Yeah, that is strange. I would expect to see that debug message. | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | I will talk to infra today to make sure logstash catches debug level messages | 15:18 |
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| mlavalle | I guess all we can do for the time being is to be vigilant about these 2 bugs | 15:19 |
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| mlavalle | I'll check them daily and will talk to infra | 15:19 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: Thanks. | 15:20 |
| carl_baldwin | It'd be nice to know that we can search for debug messages successfully. | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | Next bugs are high importance. First one was reduced to high lately: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1562878 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1562878 in neutron "L3 HA: Unable to complete operation on subnet" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ann Taraday (akamyshnikova) | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | Thanks to jschwarz for followin up with it. any comments? | 15:21 |
| jschwarz | I tried to reproduce this one earlier this week but couldn't | 15:21 |
| jschwarz | since it's not occurring in the gate afaik, the importance can be lowered IMO | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | even lower than high? | 15:21 |
| jschwarz | Medium seems nice since if me and Ann can't reproduce this on rally, this might have been fixed already | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596075 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596075 in neutron "Neutron confused about overlapping subnet creation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | As I said last week, this is a long complicated affair, involving several potential patches | 15:24 |
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| mlavalle | I pinged kevinbenton yesterday and he is still working on a couple of fixes for this. Once they are ready, he will have some more interaction with the submitter to confir it is fixed | 15:24 |
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| mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1603162 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1603162 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback fails with reference driver" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin) | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | I think I've got this one fixed. | 15:25 |
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| carl_baldwin | I was just starting to look at the multinode dvr grenade job. I doubt the failure is related. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348956/ | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | I wanted to be sensitive to rechecks thuogh. | 15:26 |
| carl_baldwin | *though | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 15:27 |
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| mlavalle | if there are no more comments, let's move on. Thanks for the update carl_baldwin | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll get some reviewers on the fix today. | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | Thnaks! | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1610483 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,Confirmed] | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | any comments on this one carl_baldwin? | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | This affects external drivers mostly since the reference driver (for now) uses the context DB rollback. | 15:30 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Have you guys had a chance to think about this at all? | 15:31 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: yes, I agree with the issue, current rollback is not actually reliable and has to be reworked | 15:31 |
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| carl_baldwin | So, in summary, we have no plans yet to fix this but it is an issue that we should plan for soon. | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | Thanks! | 15:33 |
| pavel_bondar | I would pick this task, but since I am not longer part of Infoblox openstack team (working on Infoblox another project) I don't have enough bandwith to drive it to the end. | 15:33 |
| pavel_bondar | Probably I could assist with comments&review, but probably what my current bandwidth allows | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Anyone else there to pass it on to? | 15:34 |
| carl_baldwin | We can take this out of band, mlavalle | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | Finally we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1599329 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1599329 in neutron "Potential regression on handing over DHCP addresses to VMs" [High,In progress] | 15:35 |
| pavel_bondar | carl_baldwin: it is better to check with John B. about it, I am not sure | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | pavel_bondar: Will do. | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | We were waiting to see if a fix solved this one. Haven't heard anything | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | I will check around today about this one | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | any other comments? | 15:36 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: that looks similar to something i noticed yesterday - VM dhcp fails | 15:37 |
| haleyb | http://logs.openstack.org/51/337851/19/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full/c944b3d/logs/screen-q-dhcp.txt.gz was the info i found so far, but it was a multinode failure, not strict dvr | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | ok, will take a look. will ping you if i have questions | 15:38 |
| haleyb | tx | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | #topic Routed networks | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Routed networks (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:39 | |
| carl_baldwin | Hi | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we're doing pretty well here. | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | We have had some review on the create / delete segment ml2 patch. | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm not sure if xiaohhui is in a position to handle the feedback. | 15:40 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317358 | 15:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | Looks like xiaohhui is on it. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | yeah he uploaded a revision last night | 15:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | Good, I had written him an email to see if he needs assistance. I hadn't heard back. | 15:42 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'll keep watching it. | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | Do we have anything else pressing for Newton? | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | I'll push the segment ids in port patch next revision today | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | and we may need to pay some attention to docs | 15:43 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes, docs! My only hope now is the plane ride. :) | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | Cool! Let's move on then | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | #topic BGP Dynamic Routing | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BGP Dynamic Routing (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:45 | |
| tidwellr | hi | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | It'll be nice to go over how we're doing at the mid-cycle and figure out what we need to do for Ocata. | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | tidwellr, steve_ruan you are up | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | That's the last thing about routed networks from me ^ | 15:46 |
| tidwellr | :) | 15:46 |
| steve_ruan | tidwellr, to totally break the dependency | 15:47 |
| tidwellr | we've been discussing the eVPN spec this week, we're going to explore a different approach | 15:47 |
| steve_ruan | you bgp will not depend on networking-bgpvpn, right? | 15:47 |
| tidwellr | however, I don't think we've ever taken the RFE to the drivers team | 15:47 |
| tidwellr | steve_ruan: I think we should explore that | 15:47 |
| steve_ruan | ok | 15:47 |
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| tidwellr | anyway, I don't see anything on the eVPN fron getting into Newton, but getting a start on Ocata would be good | 15:48 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: has this RFE been discussed at the drivers meeting yet? | 15:48 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: no. | 15:49 |
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| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: we have a spec we've been iterating on, I assume we'd be asked for one anyway | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | The focus of the drivers meeting has shifted a bit to discussing status of Newton items. | 15:50 |
| tidwellr | carl_baldwin: ok, good to know. I don't think there's any rush to explore this with the drivers team at the moment | 15:50 |
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| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: ok | 15:51 |
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| tidwellr | I'd like to see it discussed so that maybe we can have something for Ocata | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | anything else tidwellr steve_ruan ? | 15:51 |
| tidwellr | not from me | 15:51 |
| steve_ruan | no,thanks | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for the update! | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | #topic FWaaS | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:51 | |
| njohnston | Hi! So things are looking good for l3 agent extensions - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339246/ has one +2 (thanks carl_baldwin!), needs another. | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | tidwellr: Let's get it teed up for discussion. We might be able to touch on it at the mid-cycle. | 15:52 |
| carl_baldwin | njohnston: Thanks for the reminder to revisit that one. | 15:52 |
| njohnston | carl_baldwin: Sure thing! | 15:52 |
| njohnston | The FWaaS side to act as an l3 agent extension is also coming along: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337699/ | 15:52 |
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| carl_baldwin | njohnston: Excellent. | 15:53 |
| njohnston | We're hoping to land significant swaths of FWaaS v2 core functionality on Friday, so it's good to see these things coming together. | 15:53 |
| njohnston | I think if I can get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339246/ merged, all that leaves in the codebase of Neutron proper is a fullstack test, which will get very involved | 15:54 |
| njohnston | and I am deferring that work until a little later | 15:54 |
| njohnston | I think that's it for me | 15:55 |
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| mlavalle | njohnston: thanks for the update! | 15:55 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Conversion to Pluggable IPAM | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Conversion to Pluggable IPAM (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:55 | |
| carl_baldwin | We got that bug worked out. | 15:56 |
| carl_baldwin | I think we're almost in good shape. | 15:57 |
| carl_baldwin | I hope to get the bug fix merged and then get a few rechecks on the switch to pluggable before the mid-cycle. | 15:57 |
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| carl_baldwin | Then, pull the trigger at the mid-cycle. | 15:57 |
| mlavalle | Great! | 15:57 |
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| carl_baldwin | The gate is slow these days. | 15:58 |
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| njohnston | Queue max delay: 32.70 hours https://twitter.com/openstackstatus/status/763747339177717760 | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | yikes | 15:59 |
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| mlavalle | ok team, time is almost up | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | That's less than 500 | 15:59 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, mlavalle | 15:59 |
| njohnston | thanks all! | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | Thank you for your attendance and hard work | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 16:00:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-08-11-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-08-11-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| tidwellr | bye | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2016/neutron_l3.2016-08-11-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api_wg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 16:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_wg' | 16:00 |
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| cdent | #chair etoews elmiko | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent elmiko etoews | 16:00 |
| * mlavalle waves at cdent | 16:00 | |
| etoews | o/ | 16:00 |
| cdent | hey mlavalle | 16:00 |
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| cdent | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda | 16:01 |
| elmiko | o/ | 16:01 |
| cdent | Is that a new agenda or last week's agenda? | 16:01 |
| etoews | newish | 16:02 |
| etoews | #topic start a "what's happening in the wide world of APIs" section of the newsletter? | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "start a "what's happening in the wide world of APIs" section of the newsletter? (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:02 | |
| etoews | is this something we care to do? | 16:02 |
| cdent | I recall discussing it a couple weeks ago, and there was enthusiasm in principle and concern in effort | 16:02 |
| elmiko | seems nice | 16:03 |
| etoews | do you folks see enough stuff on a weekly basis that might help fill out such a section? | 16:03 |
| elmiko | are we talking about adding links to things outside of openstack? | 16:03 |
| etoews | yes | 16:03 |
| elmiko | i'm not confident that i could fill a section on a weekly basis | 16:03 |
| cdent | I wish I did see enough stuff but at the moment that's not happening | 16:03 |
| etoews | alright. let's not put something in there we're not confident we can care and feed | 16:04 |
| cdent | It kind of feels like unless one of the three of us gets a good deal more time, such a section would be quite anaemic and might be better off waiting | 16:04 |
| cdent | jinx | 16:04 |
| elmiko | heh | 16:05 |
| cdent | #topic open | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:05 | |
| cdent | (open before we get into the regulars) | 16:05 |
| cdent | any visitors who have things they want to bring up, or anything else from anyone? | 16:05 |
| etoews | shall we add a new regular topic about bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg ? | 16:06 |
| cdent | I just wanted to report that I've committed my to do list to doing a weekly review of those bugs | 16:06 |
| cdent | yeah that | 16:06 |
| cdent | in my most recent review of them I added some comments | 16:06 |
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| etoews | i noticed that. | 16:08 |
| * cdent add bug review section to agenda template | 16:08 | |
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| cdent | #topic bug review | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:08 | |
| elmiko | oh man, we've got some triage to do | 16:09 |
| etoews | i'm going address https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bug/1593308 right now. | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1593308 in openstack-api-wg "The recommended way of transmitting error/fault information back to the user" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) | 16:09 |
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| cdent | my comments were mostly "what is this bug actually asking for" | 16:09 |
| cdent | etoews, king of the workshop | 16:10 |
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| cdent | brb | 16:13 |
| etoews | huh. for some reason my `Closes-Bug: 1593308` in https://github.com/openstack/api-wg/commit/e13a8f49bfac2593da29708f51690dfe56592f14 had no affect on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bug/1593308 | 16:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1593308 in openstack-api-wg "The recommended way of transmitting error/fault information back to the user" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) | 16:13 |
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| cdent | etoews: I think that's something that has to be configured and since we set up launchpad after setting up the repos that config isn't there. I don't remember the details on how to do it | 16:15 |
| cdent | but I'll take the action of figuring it out | 16:15 |
| cdent | #action (cdent) get api-wg gerrit and launchpad hooked up for closes-bug | 16:15 |
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| etoews | cdent: shall i add a link to errors.rst from http.rst? seems like a helpful thing to do. | 16:16 |
| cdent | it does yes | 16:16 |
| elmiko | brb | 16:16 |
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| * etoews adds note to http.rst | 16:18 | |
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| cdent | I reckon that can go on concurrently | 16:21 |
| cdent | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:21 | |
| cdent | there were no actual action items in the log from the previous meeting, was there other stuff that should be followed up? | 16:22 |
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| etoews | https://review.openstack.org/354202 | 16:23 |
| etoews | cdent: elmiko: i think that can be a quick workflow+1 if you're amenable | 16:24 |
| elmiko | yup, looking now | 16:25 |
| elmiko | lgtm | 16:25 |
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| cdent | is the linking right? I have little faith in my rst | 16:26 |
| cdent | it does look right | 16:26 |
| etoews | works locally anyway... | 16:27 |
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| cdent | is there anything more to say about the capabilities stuff from last time? | 16:28 |
| etoews | one less bug in the world https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bug/1593308 | 16:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1593308 in openstack-api-wg "The recommended way of transmitting error/fault information back to the user" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) | 16:28 |
| elmiko | cdent: i didn't have any more to add | 16:29 |
| etoews | cdent: not really. | 16:29 |
| cdent | k | 16:29 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guidelines (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:29 | |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 16:29 |
| cdent | we might be able to freeze my uri advice | 16:29 |
| cdent | sorry wrong link | 16:31 |
| etoews | freezing now... | 16:31 |
| cdent | #undo | 16:31 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7f5bc06f87d0> | 16:31 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:31 |
| etoews | cdent: ran the liaison harassment script on the uri review | 16:33 |
| elmiko | lol | 16:33 |
| cdent | \o/ | 16:33 |
| etoews | do you think a links guideline should be its own top level links.rst or just part of http.rst? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bug/1562058 | 16:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1562058 in openstack-api-wg "Links guideline" [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
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| cdent | i tink top level, because the http guideline has mostly turned into being about the protocol: headers, response codes, etc. Not bodies | 16:36 |
| elmiko | i kinda like keeping the guidelines smaller and more digestable, that http guideline is already quite dense | 16:36 |
| etoews | ++ | 16:37 |
| cdent | yeah at some point we could probably consider busting http into response codes, methods, other stuff | 16:37 |
| * etoews gets busy writing a links guideline | 16:38 | |
| * cdent hopes etoews strives to be controversial and change the world ;) | 16:38 | |
| elmiko | hehe | 16:38 |
| etoews | heh | 16:39 |
| cdent | that reminds me of something: the errors.rst requires links in the jsonschema | 16:39 |
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| cdent | are we really expecting every error to have somewhere to go to describe that error, or is it going to turn out that people just always put some random help link for all errors? | 16:39 |
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| elmiko | ideally the former, realistically the latter | 16:40 |
| cdent | further: do we expect that people will actually follow those links in the course of client-ing | 16:40 |
| elmiko | i think it would be way cool if the projects produced detailed error pages that could be linked to (possibly in their docs). but i think this doesn't seem likely. | 16:41 |
| * cdent nods | 16:42 | |
| cdent | shall we move on to api impact? | 16:42 |
| cdent | (mostly because of time) | 16:43 |
| cdent | #topic APIImpact | 16:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "APIImpact (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:43 | |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+AND+(message:ApiImpact+OR+message:APIImpact),n,z | 16:43 |
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| cdent | Shall we continue our usual tradition of leaving these until someone comes calling? | 16:44 |
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| elmiko | i think so, it's tough to break some of these down without an advocate | 16:44 |
| * cdent nods | 16:44 | |
| elmiko | in theory, the APIImpact flag is great. in meat space, it doesn't seem to work out as we had hoped | 16:45 |
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| cdent | I think with sufficiently more time there could be a lot more productive engagement, but for the time being that's not really realistic | 16:45 |
| elmiko | ++ | 16:45 |
| cdent | we can work on it, incremental | 16:45 |
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| cdent | we've already done bug review so: | 16:46 |
| cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:46 | |
| cdent | I've already started a bit at | 16:46 |
| cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-wg-newsletter | 16:46 |
| cdent | please review for sanity and typos etc | 16:46 |
| cdent | you may wish to note that I've got out of order footnotes, do we care? | 16:46 |
| elmiko | i don't mind, i think i had them out of order on the one from last week | 16:47 |
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| elmiko | +1 from me on that copy, cdent | 16:48 |
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| cdent | etoews: any edits? | 16:48 |
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| etoews | cdent: if you give me 10 min, i might be able to get a link guideline out for review to include in there. | 16:49 |
| etoews | your call. send now or later works for me. | 16:50 |
| cdent | etoews: the other option, if you don't, is that you own sending the newsletter when you're done? | 16:50 |
| etoews | can do | 16:50 |
| cdent | rawk | 16:50 |
| etoews | awk | 16:50 |
| * cdent looks at elmiko | 16:50 | |
| * etoews looks at elmiko too just to be creepy | 16:50 | |
| elmiko | haha | 16:51 |
| elmiko | i'm fine with waiting | 16:51 |
| cdent | #topic new business | 16:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new business (Meeting topic: api_wg)" | 16:51 | |
| elmiko | STOP STARING AT ME!!!! AAAaaaaa | 16:51 |
| elmiko | ;) | 16:51 |
| cdent | any other gossip, issues, problems, suppositions, fud, incentives, or other miscellany? | 16:52 |
| etoews | can we add a fud section to the newsletter? | 16:52 |
| elmiko | lol ++ | 16:52 |
| elmiko | we could really make this a hot rag if we start dishing out openstack gossip | 16:53 |
| cdent | the api wg has decided to stop using http, it's all grpc henceforth | 16:53 |
| elmiko | nice | 16:53 |
| elmiko | and everyone needs to start supporting QUIC, yesterday! | 16:53 |
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| cdent | actually I've got something: | 16:55 |
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| cdent | since I missed the capabilities stuff: is it something that would fit under the dome of cross-project-spec type stuff? that is, not just a guideline from us. | 16:56 |
| * cdent starts getting anxious | 16:56 | |
| * cdent shuffles feet | 16:56 | |
| * cdent points at etoews | 16:56 | |
| elmiko | i think it does | 16:56 |
| etoews | sure. | 16:57 |
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| cdent | My main curiosity is because this is a thing coming on the horizon in nova and I'd really like it if for once nova rather than leading and expecting people to follow, collaborated | 16:57 |
| cdent | (am I allowed to say that out loud?) | 16:57 |
| etoews | yep | 16:57 |
| elmiko | i think that seems entirely sensible | 16:58 |
| etoews | that reminds me. we should really have something about the api-wg in dhellmann's new cross project repo . | 16:58 |
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| * etoews can't find link for it... | 16:58 | |
| cdent | his goals thing, or something else? | 16:58 |
| etoews | i think that's it. | 16:58 |
| etoews | it's in review now right? | 16:59 |
| cdent | yes | 16:59 |
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| etoews | ya. that thing. something for another day. | 16:59 |
| cdent | we've reach the end of our scheduled time | 16:59 |
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| cdent | you got the newsletter, etoews | 16:59 |
| etoews | yep. i'll send the newsletter once i'm done with this guideline. | 16:59 |
| cdent | i'm going to add "more on capabilities" to agenda | 16:59 |
| cdent | for next time | 16:59 |
| etoews | ciao | 17:00 |
| cdent | thanks everybody, it's always a good time | 17:00 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 17:00:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-08-11-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-08-11-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/2016/api_wg.2016-08-11-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| elmiko | thanks cdent etoews ! | 17:00 |
| docaedo | courtesy ping olaph kzaitsev_mb sskripnick | 17:00 |
| sskripnick | hiyo | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #startmeeting app-catalog | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 17:01:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is docaedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_catalog' | 17:01 |
| olaph | o/ | 17:01 |
| docaedo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/app-catalog#Proposed_Agenda_for_August_11th.2C_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:01 |
| docaedo | ^^ todays agenda | 17:01 |
| * docaedo thinks maybe "status updates" should be removed since that's often the whole meeting :) | 17:02 | |
| kzaitsev_mb | o/ | 17:02 |
| docaedo | #topic Status updates | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status updates (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:02 | |
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| sskripnick | I have a little update | 17:02 |
| sskripnick | http://r-ci.tk:8100/ | 17:02 |
| docaedo | I don't have any status updates that don't relate to things we have for later in the agenda (ie. glare stuff) | 17:02 |
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| sskripnick | Here you can login/logout and if you are member of app-catalog-core team (on launchpad) you can approve drafts | 17:03 |
| sskripnick | app-catalog-core is open group, anyone can join | 17:03 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: nice! I'll check that out later today | 17:03 |
| docaedo | Oh I do have an update - I am on leave starting tomorrow, will return 8/22 | 17:04 |
| docaedo | We can have a meeting next week, would just need kzaitsev_mb to volunteer to chair it :) | 17:04 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sure, have no problem with that =) | 17:04 |
| sskripnick | so have a nice ... almost two weeks =) | 17:05 |
| docaedo | oh just one week plus a day :) but yes, will be a nice break | 17:05 |
| docaedo | OK we can move on to... | 17:06 |
| docaedo | #topic App Catalog API v2.0 spec and framework (flask+sqlalchemy, django, something else?)(sskripnick) | 17:06 |
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| sskripnick | so if we are going to have own backend, we need some framework | 17:07 |
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| sskripnick | we have already django and flask in codebase | 17:07 |
| sskripnick | i think we should chose one of them | 17:07 |
| sskripnick | I not big fan of alchemy, so I prefer to use django | 17:07 |
| docaedo | I am confused a little - glare is the backend piece, and the front end (web UI) should talk to glare via the API | 17:08 |
| docaedo | I'm just not sure here what has to change other then augmenting what already exists on the web UI piece | 17:08 |
| sskripnick | glare is not enough. we need to store some additional info like user comments | 17:08 |
| sskripnick | btw we had a discussion with you and kzaitsev_mb %) | 17:09 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: ah right, that's the part, thanks - in tokyo it sounded like the rating parts could be stored as metadata with each individual asset, but that is not going to be possible I think | 17:09 |
| sskripnick | yes. also we need to be able to perform fulltext search | 17:10 |
| sskripnick | and display only latest versions of artifacts | 17:10 |
| sskripnick | currently glare cant do this | 17:10 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: I like django too | 17:10 |
| docaedo | how does/will glare handle versioning? | 17:10 |
| docaedo | because that was a major reason for starting with glare instead of just writing our own to handle that | 17:11 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | +1 on django (I actually like it's orm a bit more that sqlalchemy, but that's just a matter of tast I suppose) | 17:11 |
| sskripnick | glare does handle versioning, but it show all artifact versions when listing | 17:11 |
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| docaedo | sskripnick: but that's easy - the UI can ask for all versions but only display the newest | 17:12 |
| sskripnick | glare cant handle this | 17:12 |
| sskripnick | it always show everything | 17:12 |
| docaedo | and what I'm getting at is that we can implement glare without having to do EVERYTHING at once (i.e. we do not need user comments, rating, etc. from the beginning) | 17:12 |
| sskripnick | btw we can just unpublish old versions | 17:12 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: I understand - I am saying the web UI can ask glare for everything, but only expose the newest | 17:12 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | however I would opt to move as much logic to frontend (i.e. angular code). This way it should b easy to reuse parts (controllers, static html, etc) in a form of XStatic packages between site and app-catalog-ui | 17:13 |
| docaedo | and I don't think we want to unpublish old versions, we should have a way for a user to get at an older version if they want | 17:13 |
| sskripnick | there will be issues with pagination | 17:13 |
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| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: yes that's what I'm saying, put that logic in angular | 17:13 |
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| sskripnick | so we are going to speak with glare directly, and implement some additional features later? | 17:14 |
| sskripnick | please take a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354133/ | 17:15 |
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| docaedo | why not follow the same pattern we use today? the web UI when it loads hit's the API to get the asset list, so as it is the web UI only interfaces with the API | 17:15 |
| sskripnick | we have two options: communicate with glare directly for basic data, and communicate with app-catalog-own-api for some extended data like comments or full text search | 17:16 |
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| sskripnick | and second option -- develop single consistent api | 17:16 |
| sskripnick | not be tied to glare backend | 17:16 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: ok I think I understand | 17:17 |
| docaedo | I would say for now, we go with first option for this work - communicate with glare directly for basic data | 17:18 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'm having a small déjà vu =) | 17:18 |
| docaedo | then we iterate from there to add extended data | 17:18 |
| sskripnick | btw we have to expose glare anyways. we need it for glare-to-glare syndication | 17:18 |
| docaedo | but for switch to glare the goal should be basic feature compatability with current "api" of app catalog | 17:18 |
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| sskripnick | docaedo: ok, I like it | 17:19 |
| sskripnick | so we need to emulate old api? but how we a going to create/edit assets? | 17:20 |
| sskripnick | there is no yaml file anymore | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | the issue here is that glare api != app-catalog api, although certain calls would be identical | 17:20 |
| docaedo | no not exactly, sorry I'm probably not being clear | 17:20 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sskripnick: old api only had get ) | 17:20 |
| docaedo | also I was looking at the conversation on the channel earlier, and noting this image: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13626875/app-catalog.png | 17:20 |
| docaedo | kfox1111 had a point that made good sense | 17:21 |
| docaedo | "if we go with the top one, and glare looses all its steam, but we want to support our v2 api for a long time, we will have many more options with the bottom one." | 17:21 |
| docaedo | "if glare's a huge success and we never need to add any new stuff, we can make a v3 that just removes the proxy and wait for v2 to die off." | 17:21 |
| docaedo | so that was the conversation where we agreed it would make sense for app catalog to have it's own API, which is what sskripnick started with (and then I argued against, silly me!) | 17:22 |
| docaedo | (I have to apologize, have been involved in a lot of other stuff lately so took me a while to remember all the app-catalog stuff this morning!) | 17:23 |
| sskripnick | :) | 17:23 |
| sskripnick | okay. so I can just finish current implementation and we can merge it? (with glare only. no own database) | 17:24 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: just to answer also regarding emulating old API, I do not think that's a critical goal - if it turns out to be possible without much effort (and if we are already writing a shim in front of glare API that might not be hard), we could try | 17:24 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: yes, I tihnk you can continue with current implementation, no need to create additional database | 17:24 |
| docaedo | I think it makes sense to make glare work with minimal features, and adding on user comments, rating, etc. can come later | 17:25 |
| sskripnick | ok. so django will be waiting %) | 17:25 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | sskripnick docaedo I'm 95% sure that it would be easy to implemenvt v1 api with glare v1 api | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and I'd like to disagree that it's not criticall | 17:26 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it would break (or at least stall) app-catalog-ui | 17:26 |
| sskripnick | it is easy, but why we need this? and how to use it? | 17:26 |
| docaedo | sskripnick: I think django can wait - kzaitsev_mb what do you think about that? | 17:26 |
| sskripnick | if we use glare we should have a UI for adding/approving | 17:26 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: yes you are right about that breaking app-catalog-ui - I guess you are right that it's critical | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sskripnick: app-catalog-ui is a dashboard for a.o.o. It has been out for a while and breaking it doesn't sound good to me | 17:27 |
| sskripnick | oh i understand. its all about app-catalog-ui horizon | 17:27 |
| kzaitsev_mb | horizon-dashboard for a.o.o | 17:27 |
| sskripnick | yes, sure we should implement it | 17:27 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: do you agree that the additional functionality (rating, comments - basically stuff glare can't handle) can happen later? | 17:29 |
| kzaitsev_mb | if it ever becomes a problem (after all there is a huge jon file dump) — it can be optimised(cached) and deprecated gracefully. | 17:29 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | docaedo: sure | 17:29 |
| docaedo | kzaitsev_mb: yes I agree, creating that json from what is in glare should be really easy, and caching it and serving from api/v1 would keep us backwards compatible | 17:30 |
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| sskripnick | so for now we just need to finish the UI and deploy glare on subdomain and swift storage and memcached | 17:31 |
| docaedo | "swift storage"? you mean just connect to external swift somewhere right? | 17:31 |
| sskripnick | yes | 17:31 |
| docaedo | cool :) | 17:31 |
| docaedo | ready for next argument? | 17:32 |
| sskripnick | yep | 17:32 |
| docaedo | #topic App Catalog API v2.0 spec and framework (flask+sqlalchemy, django, something else?)(sskripnick) | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "App Catalog API v2.0 spec and framework (flask+sqlalchemy, django, something else?)(sskripnick) (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:32 | |
| docaedo | oops | 17:32 |
| docaedo | #topic Artifacts verification (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog/+spec/artifacts-verification )(sskripnick) | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Artifacts verification (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/app-catalog/+spec/artifacts-verification )(sskripnick) (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:32 | |
| sskripnick | the idea it to be able to verify artifacts | 17:33 |
| sskripnick | like change requests in gerrit | 17:33 |
| sskripnick | +v/-v from jenkins on every proposed artifact | 17:33 |
| docaedo | I appreciate the idea behind this, but it's going to require a HUGE effort, and can't work easily with the existing infra gate | 17:33 |
| docaedo | consider that we need a "reference" cloud to start with, otherwise to test a simple application the gate would need to first deploy devstack, then fetch a huge image (some are over 2gb) | 17:34 |
| docaedo | then use murano for instance to build the heat stack | 17:34 |
| docaedo | use heat to deploy it | 17:34 |
| docaedo | and then eventually, somehow, "test" that | 17:34 |
| sskripnick | there is some work-in-progress in murano team | 17:35 |
| docaedo | That's the workflow we would follow right now if we were going to use the existing test infrastructure | 17:35 |
| docaedo | if we're just talking about third-party, and these things happening on some other cloud that already exists, I think it's great :) | 17:35 |
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| docaedo | and basically I am in agreement that this will be a really useful thing to add | 17:35 |
| sskripnick | it may be third party, or existing infra, or both | 17:36 |
| docaedo | but I don't think this is tied to the app-catalog | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | I'm thinking of examples and do not see any =) I mean pypi doesn't test python packages uploaded, does it? nor does docker hub or deb repos | 17:36 |
| sskripnick | we need to support it to make it possible | 17:36 |
| docaedo | It COULD be part of the app-catalog, but it's something next to it in a way, "providing the community a CI infrastructure for murano things" | 17:36 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep, resonates well with what imarnat is driving | 17:37 |
| docaedo | I do get it, but I'm saying it does not need to start being tightly coupled to the app-catalog | 17:37 |
| kzaitsev_mb | (he has just returned from vacation AFAIK btw, just sharing =)) | 17:37 |
| docaedo | for instance the repository split for murano that was talked about | 17:37 |
| docaedo | testing the apps that get added into the murano-apps repository - that's where the focus on this CI should be | 17:37 |
| sskripnick | we can make possible to do the same for other artifact types | 17:38 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sskripnick: is the bp part of the ongoing work by imarnat on CI for murano-apps and other assets? | 17:38 |
| sskripnick | kzaitsev_mb: no | 17:38 |
| sskripnick | oh wait | 17:39 |
| docaedo | honestly I think that blueprint as it stands belongs under murano, not app-catalog | 17:39 |
| sskripnick | kzaitsev_mb: yes it is | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | you got me confused | 17:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | =) | 17:39 |
| sskripnick | -_- | 17:39 |
| sskripnick | ok lets return to this later. we have enough work for today | 17:40 |
| docaedo | my point is that the app catalog can't test everything that comes into it, and the way different asset types will be tested will be very different :) | 17:40 |
| docaedo | I'll add my comments to the blueprint anyway, and we can at least discuss that way | 17:40 |
| docaedo | though I agree, definitely not something we need to cover today :) | 17:41 |
| docaedo | #topic Next steps for Glare integration | 17:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next steps for Glare integration (Meeting topic: app-catalog)" | 17:42 | |
| docaedo | Just want to know what sskripnick wants others to do to help out with the effort at this point :) | 17:42 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sskripnick: I'm not sure if the code should live in app-catalog =) it might be a separate project (at least a separate repo.) if murano is going to be one of the first asset types tested by this CI — I see little problem adding the repo under murano project | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | needs to be discussed a bit =) | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | ok, moving on ) | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sskripnick: any demands, things we can help you with? | 17:44 |
| docaedo | #action docaedo to play with login/logout/validate on http://r-ci.tk:8100/ | 17:44 |
| sskripnick | I need some help with puppet. Everything else almost finished | 17:44 |
| sskripnick | Oh, also I need some help with html/css | 17:44 |
| sskripnick | Currently UI looks a bit ugly | 17:44 |
| sskripnick | and I can't make it better >_< | 17:45 |
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| docaedo | sskripnick: any specifics, be sure to ask on #openstack-app-catalog (might get a surprise help from kfox, never know!) | 17:45 |
| sskripnick | sounds good :) | 17:46 |
| docaedo | I will see what I can do about puppet deployment piece when I get back from leave | 17:46 |
| sskripnick | ok thanks | 17:46 |
| docaedo | #action docaedo to look at "install glare with puppet" week of 8/22 | 17:46 |
| docaedo | I think we are good :) Anyone have anything else for today? | 17:47 |
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| * docaedo will wait at least another minute or two... | 17:48 | |
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| igormarnat_ | docaedo: Hi! | 17:49 |
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| igormarnat_ | Sorry, I'm a little bit late:) | 17:50 |
| docaedo | igormarnat_: hey there! | 17:50 |
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| docaedo | haha yeah we were about to endmeeting :P | 17:50 |
| igormarnat_ | Not sure if you had a chance to discuss what exactly needs to be done to switch to new implementation which we have now in Beta | 17:50 |
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| igormarnat_ | Do we have etherpad about it, or smth like that? | 17:50 |
| docaedo | no etherpad at the moment, next step is for me to write the puppet deployment bits, and then work with infra to get it testing with their trove and swift | 17:51 |
| docaedo | so we'd have a staging/test version up on openstack infra | 17:51 |
| docaedo | and there's some work to do on an API shim so the API endpoint exposed is not tied to glare but exposes same functionality (as well as duplicates v1 API) | 17:52 |
| igormarnat_ | docaedo: got it. Do you need help with puppet? | 17:52 |
| docaedo | well I'm on leave next week so I won't get to it for a week and a half, if someone else wants to pick it up in the mean time and ping folks on #openstack-infra for help that would be fine | 17:52 |
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| docaedo | existing deploying stuff is at https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site - future changes should be patches to that repo | 17:53 |
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| docaedo | (5 minutes left) | 17:55 |
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| docaedo | OK I think we're good now folks, thanks! | 17:56 |
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| sskripnick | thanks. bye | 17:57 |
| docaedo | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 17:57:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-08-11-17.01.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_catalog/2016/app_catalog.2016-08-11-17.01.txt | 17:57 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro igordcard: hi | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 18:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Aug_11th.2C_4th.2C_July_21st_2016 | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Quality of Service support via NSPs | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quality of Service support via NSPs (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:02 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | amitbose: hi | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: there? | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hemanthravi: hi | 18:02 |
| hemanthravi | hi | 18:02 |
| amitbose | hi | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just wanted to quickly address any pending issues that igordcard might be having with his patch (in case he is around) | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | probably not | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i have commented on his patch | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | moving on | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | patch btw is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301701 | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic L3-Policy mapping to Address Scope & Subnetpool | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L3-Policy mapping to Address Scope & Subnetpool (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:04 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343929 | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: thanks for the review comments, (and amitbose thanks for your review earlier as well) | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i saw your main comment earlier in the morning, and then noticed a few more comments just a few minutes back | 18:05 |
| rkukura | one main issue, and several minor ones | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i think your more recent comments are mostly aligned with your main comment L181 | 18:05 |
| rkukura | right | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yeah so lets go over that | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | others, please do chime in | 18:06 |
| rkukura | the main issue is with the 1-to-mainy mapping to subnetpools | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so the requirement there is not purely for prefix scaling purposes | 18:06 |
| rkukura | It doesn’t seem necessary, and might add signficiant complexity | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i agree it adds complexity | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but there are use cases where you would need to associate explicitly associate subnetpools (as opposed to modifying existing subnetpools) | 18:07 |
| rkukura | in particular, I’m worried about how this plays with neutron’s requirement that all subnets on a network come from the same subnetpool, if any of them are from a subnetpool | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so the requirement is to be able to associate one or more subnetpool resources, and not just add prefixes | 18:08 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: isn't the requirement that they come from the same address scope? | 18:08 |
| rkukura | I’m not sure I see why adding a new subnetpool is ever preferable to adding a prefix to an existing subnetpool | 18:08 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: does it have to be the same subnetpool? that's odd | 18:08 |
| rkukura | On a network, it has to be the same subetpool | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i believe you are only looking at the scaling use case | 18:09 |
| rkukura | I’m not sure about on a router, but I expect that to be based on address_scope | 18:09 |
| rkukura | I am not sure what other use cases apply | 18:09 |
| rkukura | scaling being needing more subnets, I think | 18:09 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I guess visibility is another concern | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: however, the user might be explicitly creating the subnetpool | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: yeah, the l3p sharing use case | 18:10 |
| rkukura | Sure, the user can explicitly create a subnetpool and use it to create an L3P | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amitbose was pointing out that earlier as well | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the l3p is shared and each tenant creates its own subnetpool and associates with the l3p | 18:11 |
| ivar-lazzaro | with a single shared VRF, you still might want to limit the subnets for each tenant | 18:11 |
| rkukura | I vaguely recall some use cases being mentioned in discussion, which I didn’t quite undertand at the time, but I don’t see any of this in the spec | 18:11 |
| rkukura | So why is it necessary to share an L3P but not share the subnetpool? | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: okay, i will add a sentence on that use case to clarify | 18:11 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | which could be accomplished by looking at the subnetpool ownership/sharing | 18:11 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: ^^ | 18:12 |
| rkukura | Do we really need that complexity? | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: why would you force the subnetpool to be shared? | 18:12 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I think that is the use case, whether or not it can really be accomplished is to be evaluated | 18:12 |
| rkukura | If you need to share it, share the L3P | 18:12 |
| rkukura | If you don’t need to share it, don’t share the L3P | 18:12 |
| ivar-lazzaro | doesn't seem really complex does it? You have a space of non overlapping IPs between your tenants | 18:13 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | pretty much like having overlapping_ips set to false | 18:13 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but you still need each tenant to use the assigned subnet | 18:13 |
| ivar-lazzaro | In Neutron you would do that by having a shared AS | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | and private SP | 18:14 |
| rkukura | First, if we do need multiple subnetpools in an L3P, they would have to have the same AS, and therefore no overlap | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | does it make sense? | 18:14 |
| amitbose | I'm not convinced if having multiple subnetpools is adding too much complexity, but it does allow us to address more use-cases | 18:14 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right, they would have to be the same AS | 18:14 |
| rkukura | Why not just have each tenant have a non-shared L3P, with all of these sharing an AS? | 18:14 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: you might want to run cross-tenant traffic without NAT | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | at least that's my guess | 18:15 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | in any case, I think we should at least be able to accomodate these use cases | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | meaning that we could still have a list of subnetpools | 18:15 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but limit to 1 for now | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: the requirement is to be able to share the construct at the GBP resource level | 18:16 |
| ivar-lazzaro | so that we can remove the constraint once we see fit without breaking compatibility | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i am referring to the l3p | 18:16 |
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| rkukura | Maybe some of the semantics we have on L3P should be moved to AS | 18:16 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (but I agree with the _v4 _v6 comment) | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: for somebody purely driving the GBP workflow, the fact that AS is shared is not even visible, unless the L3P is shared | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: v4 and v6 separation is also not that big of a deal | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: it probably looks more cleaner | 18:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: but there is hardly any extra computation cost if its a single list | 18:17 |
| rkukura | The _v4, _v6 thing is a more minor issue | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we will be filtering based on the address_scope id | 18:18 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: yeah, that's the kind of thing that becomes easily incompatible once you release the driver... So we probably want to make sure we take the right decision right away | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but i can make that change if it looks more cleaner from an API perspective | 18:18 |
| rkukura | What really bothers me is that we will require some set of SPs to have the same AS, but neutron allows the SP->AS association to be mutated at will | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that is separate issue | 18:19 |
| rkukura | And we will also require the L3P to be associated with that same AS | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | which needs to be addressed, regardless of subnetpool list or no | 18:19 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *not | 18:19 |
| ivar-lazzaro | If we have a single SP we theoretically don't care about the AS | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for SPs already associated with an L3P we will have to in some way disallow update of AS | 18:20 |
| rkukura | It just seems much cleaner to me to say that an L3P has exctly one SP for each family, and | 18:20 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but I'm very nervous about taking this route and be burned later | 18:20 |
| rkukura | the AS is whatever that SP points to | 18:20 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I'd rather get the model right, and maybe limit the length of that list to 1 | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: at the neutron model level that is the only change, but it will not be as trivial for the backend because things will have to be rewired to change the AS mapping | 18:21 |
| rkukura | I’m just not (yet) convinced that a list of SPs is the right model | 18:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: which may or may not be possible | 18:21 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: how would you solve the use case we discussed above with the current model? | 18:22 |
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| rkukura | We need to handle updates to a SP’s AS for neutron | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so when the update to the SP happens, GBP would have to interpose anyway | 18:22 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | we might say we won't support those, but it seems a bit risky considering we already have users that have a big single shared VRF | 18:22 |
| rkukura | Is the use case that you somehow want multiple tenants to have different SPs but share an L3P/AS? | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: right | 18:23 |
| rkukura | So why do the different tenants need their own SPs? | 18:23 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Each tenant has different subnets assigned. But they are in the same VRF to allow cross traffic when needed | 18:23 |
| rkukura | I agree if they are sharing the L3P/AS, they will be sharing the VRF | 18:23 |
| rkukura | I’d just like to understand why they can’t also share the SP? | 18:24 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: because he who design the network is not the same as who run the applications | 18:24 |
| ivar-lazzaro | also, address space separation is good to avoid a tenant to be too noisy | 18:24 |
| rkukura | Why would ether of thee care which SP some tenant uses? | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: so that one tenant does not use the other tenants IPs? | 18:24 |
| ivar-lazzaro | without necesserely enforcing quotas | 18:25 |
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| rkukura | the SPs do enforce quotes, based on individual IPs for v4 and based on /64 spaces for v6 | 18:25 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: that is already enforced by using the same shared VRF | 18:25 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I see two main advantages: | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: how is it enforced by using the same shared VRF?? | 18:26 |
| ivar-lazzaro | - 1) Accounting traffic by IP | 18:26 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: using the same VRF you can't have overlapping IPs. even if you have one single shared SP | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i am not talking about overlapping IPs | 18:27 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | 2) slice the subnets to prevent a tenant from growing too much | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: my question to rkukura was more rhetorical | 18:27 |
| ivar-lazzaro | Oh ok, I misinterpreted | 18:28 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | I guess rkukura question is more like "why would anyone care about which tenant uses which subnet" | 18:28 |
| ivar-lazzaro | given a shared routing domain | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: good points | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | basically the summary is that we want to be able to cleanly separate the applications (and the subnets they use) in a shared address space | 18:29 |
| rkukura | Regarding ivar-lazzaro’s 2), I’m not sure I understand this. If the tenant owns any SP, they can always add new prefixed to it. Only quotas prevent them from doing that. | 18:29 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: can they? even if created by an admin? | 18:29 |
| rkukura | I’m not even sure the quote prevents them from adding the prefix, just from allocatiing subnets | 18:29 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but even if they can, other tenants won't run out of IPs | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and to support the range of use cases that fall under this category, association to a list of SPs seems like the right thing to model | 18:30 |
| rkukura | If the admin creates it using the tenant’s tenant_id, its the same as if the tenant created it | 18:30 |
| ivar-lazzaro | because they already have their allocated slice | 18:30 |
| rkukura | So what about the fact that SPs cannot be mixed on a network? | 18:30 |
| ivar-lazzaro | so you would be able to grow, but not to "invade" | 18:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i like the use of “invade” ;-) | 18:31 |
| rkukura | How is the user supposed to know which of this list of SPs is even being used for the L2P they want to use? | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: that is a good point | 18:31 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: isn't that covered via resource visibility? | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: in this case the user would see the other SPs as well | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: but wont be able to use them | 18:32 |
| ivar-lazzaro | If the SPs are not marked as shared, doing a "show" on the L3P would only list the ones you can have access to | 18:32 |
| rkukura | Do we even know whether neutron prevents the prefixes within one SP from overlapping with the prefixes in another SP when the two SPs share an AS? I suspect the enforcement is at subnet allocation instead, but could be wrong. | 18:32 |
| ivar-lazzaro | how? | 18:32 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | Every non-admin query is filtered by ownership or shareability | 18:32 |
| ivar-lazzaro | AFAIR | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: because there is no resource visibility being enforced on the SPs’ list attribute when you do a show on the L3P | 18:33 |
| rkukura | So each user of the shared L3P sees different results for the same attribute? I’d think they would see the IDs, but not be able to show the resource the ID identifies. | 18:33 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: I see what you mean, that's because those values are loaded by the L3P join | 18:33 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: it does prevent it by spec | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: not sure if it's actually implemented | 18:34 |
| rkukura | ivar-lazzaro: Prevent prefix overlap within an AS? | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: yeah | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i dont know of a way to enforce that with the current policy.json mechanism | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | That's why I believe we should limit the list to 1 right now | 18:34 |
| ivar-lazzaro | we know there are valid use cases | 18:35 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but we need to get the implementation right | 18:35 |
| ivar-lazzaro | except that the implementation can be changed later, the model is a bit trickier | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: you are probably suggesting that this filtering can be done in the “make_dict”? | 18:35 |
| rkukura | Given the flexibility, I’m sure we’d find use cases that can take advantage of the flexibiltiy. But the question I have is whether these same use cases can be solved better by other means. | 18:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: if that is an open ended question, i think we have to go with an approach that readily solves those use cases | 18:36 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: how would you address those cases with a single SP? | 18:36 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: I'm ok even with just having a plan, ad long as we know that we won't need to come back and break the model compatibility | 18:37 |
| rkukura | I’d use quotes to address hording | 18:37 |
| ivar-lazzaro | what about accounting? | 18:37 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: “hording”? | 18:38 |
| rkukura | I’m not sure if subnetpool prefixes are ever really the best/only solution for accounting, but maybe | 18:38 |
| ivar-lazzaro | even though that's not the right word | 18:38 |
| ivar-lazzaro | "accounting"... It's more like IP identity | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh you mean “quotas to address hoarding”…nevermind | 18:38 |
| rkukura | We can certainly map the individual ports to tenants | 18:38 |
| rkukura | hoarding is what I meant | 18:39 |
| ivar-lazzaro | accounting is more of a commercial term I guess, what I mean is for an operator to be able to know the identity of the traffic by looking at the IP | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro: i would prefer to not rat hole into the quotas/hoarding/invading/accounting discussion | 18:39 |
| ivar-lazzaro | (with IPv6, sometimes they even do that by host) | 18:39 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | since the separation of concerns seems like a more prominent use case to me | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the accounting aspects are probably implementation specific | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | some support might be currently available and some might not be | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but that discussion side steps the sharding paradigm concerns | 18:40 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I think I just misused the word accounting | 18:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sharding -> sharing | 18:41 |
| ivar-lazzaro | but what I meant is that the operator can identify the tenant generating traffic by just looking at the source IP | 18:41 |
| rkukura | I’m not going to -2 the spec based on this one-to-many mapping to SPs. I’m not comfortable with it, and would rather start simple if possible, but if you guys are confident it is implementable and useful, I’m don’t have any evidence to prove you wrong | 18:41 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: isn't limiting the list to "1" simple enough to start? | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: 1-1 is restrictive and leads to a incompatible change down the line | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | we stay on the safe side as far as the model is concerned, but we keep the implementation simple | 18:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | 1-many is less restrictive though we dont have to implement from get-go (stating the obvious) | 18:42 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I think it's a win-win | 18:42 |
| rkukura | To me, the key thing is that we don’t introduce potential inconsistencies that we then have to figure out how to enforce. Even just storing both the AS and a single SP in the DB leads to those potential inconsistencies. | 18:43 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: I thought that wasn't too hard to enforce for a single SP, but I might be wrong | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i will make it explicit in the spec that for a SP associated with a L3P, you should not be changing the AS association | 18:45 |
| rkukura | If we were really confident a single SP per address family per L3P would suffice, then I’d argue we don’t store the AS explicitly, and don’t have to worry about maintaining consistency. | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: we will try to enforce this as well, but the details of that wont be part of this spec | 18:45 |
| rkukura | In neutron, you are allowed to change the SP/AS association. | 18:45 |
| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: but you can validate this using a gbp mechanism driver | 18:45 |
| ivar-lazzaro | which will probably be needed down the line anyways | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes you are, and you can change the association for SPs not associated with an L3P | 18:46 |
| rkukura | I’d prefer that we just live with that and have the L3P reference a single SP per AF, and use that SP’s AS (if there is one). But clearly we don’t have concensus on this. | 18:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: but i feel you are leaning to towards 1-many :-P | 18:47 |
| ivar-lazzaro | the model rkukura is proposing is definitively easier to manage and implement... But I'm really worried about the lack of flexibility | 18:47 |
| rkukura | I’ve convinced myself I’m not going to convince either of you ;) | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yes, its easier to implement with one SP | 18:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | what does everyone feel about modeling separate lists for v4 and v6 SPs? | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | versus just having one list? | 18:48 |
| ivar-lazzaro | would that be possible to not include the AS as long as we limit the SPs to 1? | 18:48 |
| ivar-lazzaro | once the request arise, would that be even possible to change the current model to add the AS id? | 18:49 |
| ivar-lazzaro | probably not, it would require special migration for the existing AS | 18:49 |
| rkukura | I’d suggest we define the AS attribute in the API, but not store it in the DB | 18:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i believe there is a requirement up front to be able to create L3P with an explicit AS (everything else is implicitly created) | 18:49 |
| rkukura | So you can create an L3P passing in an existing AS and a prefix, et.c | 18:50 |
| rkukura | etc. | 18:50 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: yeah but we could read that dynamically. However, the moment we need to manage multiple SPs we would need to "fix" that attribute | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: you cannot lazily create SPs unless you store the AS in the DB (at least in the explicit AS case) | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ivar-lazzaro: i am saying, the user provides an explicit AS and not SP | 18:53 |
| rkukura | Do we plan to create the SPs lazily? Assuming a shared AS that enforces non-overlap between prefixes, it would seem we would need to create the SP immediately to validate it. | 18:54 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | rkukura: right | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: i havent completely thought through, but by not persisting the AS, we completely take away that option | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: also what happens if the last SP is deleted | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | time check - we have 5 mins | 18:56 |
| rkukura | We are running short on time, and I’ve said my piece, so I am happy to leave it up to SumitNaiksatam to decide which approach to take, and I will support that. | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | my earlier question - “: what does everyone feel about modeling separate lists for v4 and v6 SPs?” | 18:56 |
| ivar-lazzaro | SumitNaiksatam: +1 for that | 18:56 |
| rkukura | +1 | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay so separate lists | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i will respin a new version of the spec in line with the discussion here and address rkukura’s other comments | 18:57 |
| ivar-lazzaro | man that was quick | 18:57 |
| rkukura | sounds good | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: ivar-lazzaro amitbose thanks for the passionate engagement on this! ;-P | 18:58 |
| rkukura | covered the whole agenda ;) | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Open Discussion | 18:58 |
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| igordcard | I'm here now | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we havent had open discussion for a while | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah igordcard right on cue | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: let me know if you have furhter problems with your patch, we can touch base offline | 18:59 |
| igordcard | yeah I arrived a few mins ago but wasn't waiting for the open | 18:59 |
| igordcard | there was some other issue with the exercise but I'm now on vacation | 18:59 |
| igordcard | I will further look into it in a couple weeks is that okay? | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | igordcard: sure np, enjoy your vacation | 18:59 |
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| igordcard | thanks | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | alrighty thanks everyone for joining today! | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye! | 19:00 |
| ivar-lazzaro | adieu! | 19:00 |
| igordcard | bye bye | 19:00 |
| rkukura | thanks SumitNaiksatam | 19:00 |
| rkukura | bye | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 19:00:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-08-11-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-08-11-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2016/networking_policy.2016-08-11-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
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| shamail | Anyone here for the AUC meeting? | 19:01 |
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| shamail | Hi MeganR | 19:02 |
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| MeganR | Hi | 19:02 |
| shamail | I think it’s just us, let’s skip the meeting for today? | 19:03 |
| MeganR | honestly, that is a great idea! :) | 19:03 |
| shamail | I didn’t have much on the agenda besides updates from action items | 19:03 |
| shamail | Sounds good. I didn’t get to any of mine :( | 19:03 |
| MeganR | and I haven't made much progress on my action items! | 19:03 |
| MeganR | :) | 19:03 |
| shamail | Alrighty, see you next week! | 19:03 |
| MeganR | bye! | 19:04 |
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| DevonBoatwright | #startmeeting ops_guide | 20:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 20:30:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DevonBoatwright. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 20:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_guide' | 20:30 |
| DevonBoatwright | Hey everyone.. is anyone here today for the meeting? | 20:30 |
| DevonBoatwright | Shilla is out of town at the moment. | 20:30 |
| DevonBoatwright | So I'm going to run the meeting | 20:30 |
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| DevonBoatwright | And.... maybe I am an hour early | 20:32 |
| DevonBoatwright | I'll be back in an hour! | 20:32 |
| DevonBoatwright | #endmeeting | 20:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 20:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 20:32:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-08-11-20.30.html | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-08-11-20.30.txt | 20:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-08-11-20.30.log.html | 20:32 |
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| DevonBoatwright | #startmeeting ops_guide | 21:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 11 21:30:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DevonBoatwright. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 21:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ops_guide' | 21:30 |
| DevonBoatwright | Hello everyone! | 21:31 |
| darrenc | hello! | 21:31 |
| DevonBoatwright | Is there anyone here now? I accidentally started the meeting an hour early a bit ago | 21:31 |
| DevonBoatwright | Oh hi darren! | 21:31 |
| DevonBoatwright | Anyone else here? | 21:32 |
| darrenc | It doesn't look like it | 21:32 |
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| DevonBoatwright | Hmm. | 21:33 |
| DevonBoatwright | Want to still go ahead with the meeting? | 21:33 |
| darrenc | we could wait a few minutes | 21:33 |
| DevonBoatwright | Yea.. okie | 21:34 |
| * darrenc quickly updates the agenda | 21:34 | |
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| DevonBoatwright | LOL! I noticed that from before! | 21:36 |
| DevonBoatwright | OK.. so... | 21:39 |
| DevonBoatwright | Maybe we should just get started? | 21:39 |
| DevonBoatwright | on our one sided conversation? heehee | 21:39 |
| DevonBoatwright | Did anyone else join? | 21:39 |
| darrenc | Is it worthwhile? | 21:39 |
| rcaballeromx | I am here. | 21:39 |
| DevonBoatwright | Oh hello! | 21:39 |
| rcaballeromx | Hi. | 21:39 |
| DevonBoatwright | darren, I am still showing agenda for July. Is it updated? | 21:40 |
| rcaballeromx | Maybe I am out of line, but what is the purpose of this meeting? | 21:41 |
| darrenc | refresh your page now | 21:41 |
| darrenc | hi rcaballeromx | 21:41 |
| rcaballeromx | Hi darrenc | 21:41 |
| darrenc | essentially discuss the progress of the Ops Guide and Arch Guide in relation to the newton deliverables | 21:42 |
| rcaballeromx | Ok, got it, thanks. | 21:43 |
| DevonBoatwright | #topic Previous meeting action items | 21:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 21:43 | |
| DevonBoatwright | there's the bug spotlight. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457767 | 21:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1457767 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to KATO Tomoyuki (kato-tomoyuki) | 21:43 |
| DevonBoatwright | Oh that;s cool.. I've seen it pop up who the bug is assigned to | 21:44 |
| DevonBoatwright | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457770 | 21:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1457770 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 21:44 |
| darrenc | yep, so we've had some volunteers to help out with the bugs | 21:44 |
| darrenc | which is great | 21:44 |
| DevonBoatwright | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1457768 | 21:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1457768 in openstack-manuals "Chapter 13. Logging and Monitoring in OpenStack Operations Guide" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 21:44 |
| DevonBoatwright | Yes, that's awesome! | 21:45 |
| DevonBoatwright | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1499114 | 21:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Fix released] | 21:45 |
| * rcaballeromx is looking at those... | 21:45 | |
| darrenc | Here's one I'm working on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1359722 | 21:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1359722 in openstack-manuals "Show complete workflow when provisioning an instance" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Darren Chan (dazzachan) | 21:46 |
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| darrenc | but I'll need someone who understands the topic in more detail to help | 21:47 |
| darrenc | I've a pinged a few ppl | 21:47 |
| DevonBoatwright | ok. Yes, these all look more technical | 21:48 |
| DevonBoatwright | I haven't had much success in finding or recruiting people to help. Sorry. | 21:48 |
| rcaballeromx | Bug 1499114 looks like something I can do. | 21:49 |
| openstack | bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499114 | 21:49 |
| DevonBoatwright | Oh nice! That would be great | 21:49 |
| DevonBoatwright | Should we move on or any questions about the bugs? | 21:50 |
| darrenc | hmm, why does it say "Fixed released"? | 21:50 |
| darrenc | It's not fixed | 21:52 |
| DevonBoatwright | Interesting. Can it be changed back? | 21:52 |
| DevonBoatwright | It doesn't let me edit the status of it | 21:52 |
| darrenc | yep, done | 21:52 |
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| DevonBoatwright | Cool. Shall we move on? | 21:53 |
| DevonBoatwright | #topic Ops Guide | 21:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ops Guide (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 21:53 | |
| darrenc | one thiong | 21:53 |
| darrenc | thing* | 21:53 |
| DevonBoatwright | Oh.. whoops. | 21:53 |
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| DevonBoatwright | #topic Previous meeting action items | 21:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 21:54 | |
| darrenc | rcaballeromx: you can get in touch with edgar magana if you need help | 21:54 |
| darrenc | with that bug | 21:54 |
| rcaballeromx | Will do. | 21:55 |
| darrenc | thanks :) | 21:55 |
| rcaballeromx | I am assigning it to me. | 21:55 |
| DevonBoatwright | darren.. do I do the action item tag at the end of the meeting or can I do it now? | 21:55 |
| darrenc | cool, thanks | 21:55 |
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| darrenc | you can do it now | 21:55 |
| darrenc | :) | 21:55 |
| DevonBoatwright | #action rcaballeromx to pick up bug 1499114 | 21:55 |
| openstack | bug 1499114 in openstack-manuals "Document tools for Network Troubleshooting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499114 - Assigned to Rodrigo Caballero (rodrigo-caballero-abraham) | 21:55 |
| DevonBoatwright | okie. Done. Should I change topic now? | 21:56 |
| darrenc | sure | 21:57 |
| DevonBoatwright | #topic Ops Guide | 21:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ops Guide (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 21:57 | |
| DevonBoatwright | So there is a bullet here about providing more Enterprise ops documentation | 21:57 |
| DevonBoatwright | Darren, maybe you can chat more about that? | 21:59 |
| rcaballeromx | What exactly does that entail? | 21:59 |
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| darrenc | yeah, shilla mentioned she was going to do that | 21:59 |
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| darrenc | rcaballeromx: shilla has been providing enterpise ops documentation in a google doc | 22:00 |
| DevonBoatwright | ok. She is at a Mirantis conference right now so couldn't be at the meeting. | 22:00 |
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| rcaballeromx | Ok. | 22:00 |
| darrenc | I've been extracting contact and migrating it to the ops guide | 22:01 |
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| darrenc | content* | 22:01 |
| darrenc | troubleshooting content seems to generate a lot of input from operators | 22:02 |
| darrenc | DevonBoatwright: can you put that as an action item for shilla? | 22:02 |
| DevonBoatwright | Sure thing.. action to provide more enterprise ops documentation in google doc? | 22:03 |
| darrenc | yep, thanks | 22:03 |
| DevonBoatwright | #action Shilla to provide more enterprise ops documentation in google docs | 22:04 |
| DevonBoatwright | #topic Arch Guide | 22:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Arch Guide (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 22:04 | |
| DevonBoatwright | So there is a work items wiki page here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Architecture_Design_Guide_restructure_work_items | 22:05 |
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| darrenc | So the arch guide working group has been meeting up weekly | 22:05 |
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| rcaballeromx | Are any of the chapters already done? | 22:06 |
| darrenc | the plan is to pair up sme/writer and focus on a few areas in the Arch Guide | 22:06 |
| darrenc | ...in short sprints. Dates TBD | 22:07 |
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| darrenc | rcaballeromx: not yet | 22:07 |
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| rcaballeromx | Ok, so that content does not exist yet, correct? | 22:08 |
| rcaballeromx | Sorry for the questions, but I just want to make sure I follow properly. | 22:08 |
| darrenc | Yes there is some content | 22:08 |
| darrenc | np | 22:09 |
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| darrenc | There is an Arch Guide that's published, but we are restructuring and rewriting the guide | 22:09 |
| rcaballeromx | I get that. | 22:10 |
| darrenc | We attempted to do this in Mitaka, but didn't quite get there | 22:10 |
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| darrenc | and then some cloud architects have come onboard to help | 22:10 |
| darrenc | and proposed a new spec for Newton | 22:11 |
| darrenc | So we are working on the guide based on the spec | 22:11 |
| darrenc | let me find the link | 22:11 |
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| rcaballeromx | I would consider Chapter 2 Use Cases to be the most crucial. | 22:11 |
| rcaballeromx | However, no one seems to be on it, or am I reading the wiki wrong? | 22:12 |
| darrenc | yeah, there is some content in there | 22:13 |
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| rcaballeromx | Ok. | 22:13 |
| darrenc | I've been migrating mitaka changes in the relevant section | 22:13 |
| darrenc | sections* | 22:13 |
| rcaballeromx | darrenc: Feel free to assign me some stuff where you think I can help. | 22:13 |
| darrenc | that would be great! | 22:14 |
| darrenc | You're welcome to join the Arch Guide meeting as well | 22:14 |
| darrenc | thanks! | 22:14 |
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| rcaballeromx | No problem. | 22:14 |
| rcaballeromx | Do you have a link to that meeting? | 22:14 |
| darrenc | yeah, it's on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide | 22:16 |
| darrenc | we meet on VIdyo | 22:16 |
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| rcaballeromx | Ok. | 22:16 |
| rcaballeromx | I will join next time. | 22:16 |
| darrenc | cool, thanks rcaballeromx | 22:17 |
| DevonBoatwright | #topic Open Discussion | 22:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: ops_guide)" | 22:17 | |
| rcaballeromx | You are welcome, darrenc | 22:17 |
| DevonBoatwright | Ops midcycle- Do we need an ops guide session? | 22:18 |
| darrenc | Do you know if anyone on this team is going to the midcycle? | 22:19 |
| darrenc | Is shilla going? | 22:19 |
| * rcaballeromx is not going. | 22:20 | |
| DevonBoatwright | Where is it? | 22:20 |
| * darrenc is not going | 22:20 | |
| darrenc | NY | 22:20 |
| darrenc | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups | 22:21 |
| DevonBoatwright | No.. I don't think Shilla is going. We're going to OpenStack East | 22:21 |
| DevonBoatwright | this is right after, correct? | 22:21 |
| darrenc | We can add it as a suggestion to the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup | 22:21 |
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| darrenc | but there's not much point if no one on this team is going | 22:22 |
| DevonBoatwright | I don't think anyone else I know of on the team is going | 22:22 |
| darrenc | yeah, 25-26 August | 22:22 |
| darrenc | ah ok | 22:23 |
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| darrenc | Well I'll add to the etherpad anyway | 22:24 |
| darrenc | and if there's a session, I can chat to a few ppl who are going | 22:25 |
| darrenc | oh, someone has proposed some docs discussion on the etherpad | 22:26 |
| darrenc | line 80 | 22:27 |
| darrenc | anyway, that's it from me | 22:28 |
| DevonBoatwright | just noticed that.. was reading the etherpad | 22:28 |
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| DevonBoatwright | Ok.. Well, thanks for joining the meeting darrenc and rcaballeromx! | 22:29 |
| darrenc | thanks DevonBoatwright | 22:29 |
| DevonBoatwright | If no one else has anything, I will end meeting. We have one minute left anyway | 22:29 |
| rcaballeromx | Thanks. | 22:29 |
| DevonBoatwright | See you all next meeting! | 22:29 |
| DevonBoatwright | #endmeeting | 22:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 22:29:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-08-11-21.30.html | 22:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-08-11-21.30.txt | 22:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_guide/2016/ops_guide.2016-08-11-21.30.log.html | 22:29 |
| darrenc | cya! | 22:30 |
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