Wednesday, 2016-08-10

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SridarKHi FWaaS folks04:00
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xgermanHi04:00
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chandancHello04:01
SridarK#startmeeting fwaas04:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 04:01:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SridarK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:01
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njohnston_hi!04:01
SridarK#chair xgerman njohnston_04:01
openstackCurrent chairs: SridarK njohnston_ xgerman04:01
padkrishhello04:01
SridarKlets get started and do a quick run04:02
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SridarKWe are cutting it fine on time with code freeze around the corner (Sep 2) i believe04:02
SridarKso the next few weeks will be running tight and lets feel free to reach out to any of the team for any help or thoughts04:03
njohnston_yep, this is week R-9 and N-3 is R-504:03
SridarKso we can keep things moving04:03
SridarKnjohnston_: +1 we should keep the last week as a buffer and not count on that04:04
njohnston_absolutely.  Something always comes up.04:04
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SridarK#topic fwaas v204:04
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SridarKbeen in discussions with most of u and i think we are in agreement on the priority for the first cut04:05
SridarKwe will target the first end to end with L3 as we have been discussing in past meetings04:06
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264489/04:06
SridarKextensions - will be the first to get in - i think this is mostly ready04:06
SridarKfew minor rework is needed04:07
SridarKbut pls folks go thru and review04:07
SridarKthe next in line would be:04:07
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311159/04:07
SridarKthe db patchset04:07
SridarKi have been helping njohnston_: while he got pulled in to the L3 extensions work04:08
njohnston_I am working on the unit tests for that now; they have uncovered some minor issues, like some of the tables are missing primary keys etc.04:08
njohnston_I'll be focusing on that tomorrow04:08
xgermanThanks04:08
SridarKnjohnston_: great - i think over the next 2 days we can iterate and fix things up04:08
njohnston_definitely04:09
SridarKnjohnston_: i am testing some things with the policy rule associations and few other minor things around there04:09
SridarKi think the migration will need some work too04:09
SridarKand u quickly got the UT going04:09
SridarKthx njohnston_: i think we should be in decent shape - we can continue to sync over tomorrow04:10
njohnston_yes, definitely.  I'll be sure to also be very verbose with my notes in the change so it's clear what is changing04:10
njohnston_with each PS04:10
SridarKnjohnston_: great - yes i saw that already on the PS u pushed up04:11
SridarKtoday04:11
SridarKthe next patch would be the plugin04:11
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267046/04:11
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SridarKI think most things are in place, main work  is to add the UT - most of the interfaces with db/ext have been tested using devstack04:12
SridarKand the final patch would be the L3 FWaaS agent from mfranc213:04:13
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337699/04:13
SridarKfrom what i reviewed - i think this is in good shape04:13
SridarKmainly needs UT - and mfranc213: is on that04:14
SridarKwe will need to do an integration test with the prev 3 patches04:14
yushiroOK.04:14
SridarKand the final piece on that is to reformulate the fw rule - iptables mapping04:15
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SridarKwe will need to factor in the port in the iptable rule in place of the qr-* we had previously04:15
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SridarKchandanc: SarathMekala: I think this should be fairly straight fwd04:16
SridarKit may be useful if mfranc213: and u all sync up04:16
SridarKfor a quick turnaround on this04:17
chandancI havent looked at the Iptables driver for fwaas, but given that the ports are already know in the agent side, i feel it should be simple04:17
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SridarKthe initial thought is to just make this a part of the agent patch04:17
SridarKfor simplicity04:17
SridarKchandanc: yes - i felt so too04:17
chandancsure will ping mfranc213: for a sync-up04:17
SridarKi know we thought we could sync after this, but will be good to have mfranc213 in the conversation too04:18
SridarKchandanc: perhaps early am Pacific / evening for u guys04:19
SarathMekalasure04:19
chandancsure04:19
SridarKwe can do a quick sync after this too - so u have some context before discussion tomorrow04:19
chandancyup, we should04:20
SridarKlets discuss offline04:20
SarathMekalasure04:20
njohnston_Yeah, email her to set something up - she tends to be a very early riser, so perhaps something very early EDT might work as well04:20
SridarKso in summary that should be the first set we should get in and target for end of this week04:20
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njohnston_+100 targetting end of week04:20
SridarKnjohnston_: yes that will be good04:20
xgermanThree days left...04:21
SridarKso request to folks is to get some reviews out - feel free to use gerrit - get those -1's out for clarifications04:21
SridarKonce we have this base in - we can always refactor for some more cleanup04:22
SridarKthe patch dependency stuff is getting to be painful to manage04:22
SridarKdoes this sound reasonable ?04:23
shwetaapHello, sorry I joined late, my patch got some comments from SridarK today. I will make the changes and upload the new patch tomorrow.04:23
njohnston_once we get this foundation in, my hope is that we can implement additional parts of the functionality as self-contained patches, spanning DB, API etc all in one patch04:23
SridarKshwetaap: sounds good04:23
njohnston_SridarK: Yes, very reasonable to me.04:23
SridarKnjohnston_: yes could not agree more on the self contained patches04:24
njohnston_shwetaap: Thanks!04:24
SridarKok lets move on to the next topic04:24
SridarK#topic L3 Agent Extensions04:25
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SridarKnjohnston_: all urs04:25
njohnston_Well, the L3 agent extension looks good04:25
njohnston_Ajo had an idea about generalizing the configuration so the agents would get a list of what to load from neutron server04:25
njohnston_I think it's a great idea... for some later patch.  Not this one04:26
SridarKnjohnston_: sigh yes absolutely04:26
njohnston_So with that out of the way, I hope to get +2s this week.04:26
njohnston_I know I have satisfied all of carl_baldwin's points he has raised so far04:26
njohnston_and the fullstack test - which is going to be a ridiculous piece of work - is separated so it can be deferred and kept off the critical path04:27
SridarKnjohnston_: ok great - that will be a good - i think this should merge, i know carl_baldwin want this done for quite some time now04:27
SridarK*wanted04:27
njohnston_The last minor issue is a jenkins failure, but I think that is unrelated... but I will look again at it04:28
njohnston_it's only failing in the gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode and gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode tests but I think there was some swirl around them a day or two ago04:28
njohnston_I'm Neutron bug deputy this week so I'll keep my ear to the ground04:28
njohnston_anyway that's all for me, I pass the baton back to you SridarK04:29
SridarKnjohnston_: ok u are close to the fires :-)04:29
SridarKthx njohnston_:04:29
SridarKi think we are in a good shape here and njohnston_: thanks to all ur hard work on what seemed like an impossible task as we started off Newton04:30
njohnston_I am thrilled it seems to be working out :-)04:30
SridarK:-)04:30
SridarK#topic FWaaS Agents04:30
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SridarKyushiro: , padkrish: over to u guys04:31
SridarKyushiro: also thanks for joining when u are on vacation04:31
yushiro SridarK No warrires.04:31
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yushiroSridarK, Sorry, I don't have topics today.  padkrish , how about you?04:33
padkrishok, i have addressed yushiro's comments on the versioned objects04:33
SridarKpadkrish: ok and u had 1 patch on neutron for defining the resources04:34
padkrishi will wait for the DB patch to go in, then i will post my next  patch04:34
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SridarKpadkrish: yes i think that should help04:34
padkrishyes, so, i will decompose in to 3 patches04:34
padkrishfirst patch on just the versioned objects that depends on the DB patch04:34
SridarKpadkrish: that would go into neutron correct ?04:34
padkrishsecond patch will be defining the neutron resources, this depends on the first versioned object patch04:35
SridarKpadkrish: ok yes04:35
padkrishSridarK# second one, that i just said goes to Neutron04:35
padkrishand third patch is on fwaas notification driver, this depends on the second patch (neutron resources)04:35
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padkrishcurrectly, i have first and third patch as 1, which is creating a circular dependency and is not good :)04:36
SridarKpadkrish: can u pls post the links to the patches04:36
padkrishSridarK# sure, it's there in the gerrit, i will post again04:37
padkrishhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/347092/1 is the neutron one04:37
SridarKwait till tomorrow and then u can create a depends on the db patch as it should get more stable04:37
padkrishhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/342476/2 is the versioned object04:37
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padkrishSridarK# sure, sounds good04:38
SridarK^^^ this would be the depends on db04:38
padkrishSridarK# yes04:38
xgerman+104:38
yushiropadkrish, That's great.04:38
SridarKso we can get some reviews going on that so we can target that quickly after the db04:38
SridarKso u have some time on the neutron patch04:38
njohnston_+104:38
padkrishSridarK# ok...04:39
SridarKpadkrish: i think njohnston_ can help with reviewers - i think ajo would one04:39
SridarK* would be one04:39
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padkrishSridarK# ok, that would be great04:39
SridarKi think essentially these would be our target for next week - that should get us to versioned objects and with the L3Agent ext04:40
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SridarKpadkrish: anything else to discuss04:40
padkrishSridarK# no thats about it04:41
SridarKok lets move on, thx padkrish: & yushiro:04:41
SridarK#topic iptables and driver04:41
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SridarKchandanc: , SarathMekala: pls go ahead04:41
SridarK#link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yGsGwVNZuptPCzMMgBH4AHVkdoeWvQxsT5Wql7-jtHI/edit?usp=sharing04:42
SridarKthanks for explaining this very clearly here04:42
SridarKcan i pls request all to take a look04:42
chandancThe neutron patches are out, we have started working on the L2 Iptables Driver for fwaas based on the mickeys old work04:42
chandancWe will need to sync with yushiro for integration with L2 extension04:43
SridarKchandanc: and thx for reaching out to mickeys - hopefully u can close with him by tomorrow04:43
chandancYa sure04:43
SarathMekalaas per today's discussion it looks like we need to get L3 driver done by EOW04:44
yushirochandanc, OK.04:44
chandancI think the neutron patches are more important to pushin04:44
SridarKchandanc: do u want to quickly checkin with yushiro here04:44
SridarKSarathMekala: yes on the L3 - i think that should be straighfwd - lets talk quickly after the mtg04:44
SridarKchandanc: yes on the neutron04:45
SarathMekalaYeah sure04:45
chandancI would probably put a comment on the patch, basically we have to agree on the driver API calls04:45
SarathMekalaand the parameters that are getting passed04:45
SridarKi am hoping that we can reach out to neutron folks in a day or 204:45
chandancI saw the driver calls are currently stubbed04:45
SridarKyes on the driver i/f - we will need to pass in the ports (possibly along with the associated router)04:46
chandancThe discussion with yushiro is about the fwaas driver patch, the neutron patch are already out04:46
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SridarKchandanc: yes agreed - i asked because yushiro is on PTO this week - if u want to have a quick discussion now or provide some context04:47
SridarKwhen he is around04:47
SridarKor set a time when he may be available04:47
chandancI will summarize my understanding in mail, i have just gone through the l2 extension i have some more reading to do04:48
chandancWill be sending the mail by today evening04:48
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SridarKchandanc: yes that makes sense, yushiro: if it is possible for u to take a quick look when u will be avail - that will be great04:49
yushiroSridarK, thanks for your follow :).  chandanc , Sure.  Pls send e-mail to me.04:49
yushiroSure04:49
chandancthanks yushiro04:49
SridarKok great, thx04:49
yushirochandanc, If you send e-mail to me, please use 'gmail' instead of company address.04:50
SridarKok in summary, we will close on the L3 piece quickly, then there is the neutron patch and finally the L2 piece and wiring with the L2Agent04:50
yushirochandanc, Because I cannot confirm my company address until 16th.04:50
SridarKchandanc: i will send u the email address04:51
chandanccan you tell me your gmail ?04:51
yushiroSridarK, chandanc Thank you!04:52
chandancOk SridarK04:52
SridarKok sent04:52
SridarKlets move on b4 we hit the hour04:52
SridarK#topic CLI04:53
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SridarKyushiro: has a patch out04:53
SridarK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351582/04:53
SridarKi think once we get the first set in - we should probab target this04:54
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njohnston_It looks like that patch needs unit tests, I will have more feedback on it tomorrow... but it's a great start04:54
SridarKnjohnston_: as u mentioned the cut off may be a week early04:54
xgermanFrom what I gathered all new CLI work should be OSC04:54
xgermanSo let's make sure they will let that in04:54
njohnston_except *-aas is supposed to integrate via python-neutronclient04:54
yushiroxgerman, Sure.04:54
SridarKand yushiro is back next week - so we should be good04:55
njohnston_I asked in the OSC meeting, and that was the answer I got04:55
SridarKnjohnston_: oh ok04:55
njohnston_they made python-neutronclient an OSC plugin04:55
SridarKnjohnston_: oh yes - u mentioned that earlier04:55
SridarKi think we are in good shape there04:55
xgermanMmh, the LBaaS people told me a different story...04:56
yushiroAs I discussed with amotoki last week, we should start 1.create FWaaSv2 on python-neutronclient, 2.make OSC plugin for FWaaSv2.04:56
xgermanBut njohnston is likely closer to the source04:56
njohnston_I will reconfirm04:56
njohnston_better safe than sorry04:56
SridarK+104:56
xgermanYep.04:57
njohnston_#action njohnston_ to reconfirm fwaas CLI to be python-neutronclient as opposed to OSC with OSC folks04:57
SridarKok lets get to open discussion04:57
SridarK#topic open discussion04:57
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SridarKwe are almost out of time04:57
SridarKanything anyone ?04:57
SridarKthanks all for really pulling together as we near the end04:58
xgerman+104:58
yushiroAll, please take care of 'summer heat'.  It's too hot in Japan...04:58
njohnston_Stay cool yushiro!04:58
SridarKyushiro: global warming :-)04:58
SarathMekala:)04:59
SridarKok i think we are almost at time04:59
njohnston_thanks everyone04:59
yushironjohnston_, Yeah. I always use cooler. Hahaha04:59
SridarKthx all again and a happy and productive week, lets get those patches merging ....04:59
yushiroThanks!!04:59
SridarKbye all05:00
SridarK#endmeeting fwaas05:00
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yushirobye05:00
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xgermanBye05:00
SridarKok sending it out05:01
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anil_rao#startmeeting taas05:30
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 05:30:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is anil_rao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.05:30
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anil_raoHi05:30
soichihi05:30
anil_rao#topic  Bug: not capturing ingress traffic from VM on same host05:31
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anil_raoHere is an update on this bug...05:33
soichithank you for your discussion on mail05:33
anil_raoWhat I have noticed is that if there are a few VLANs in use (each for a different virtual network), the bug manifests itself for the VLAN id with the lowest number.05:34
soichiit seems a bit difficult to solve, but it looks interesting behavior05:34
anil_raoFor example. If the VLANs in use are 3, 4 and 5, we are unable to capture ingress traffic for VMs associated with VLAN 3.05:34
anil_raosoichi: Yes.05:35
reediphi05:35
anil_raoHi Reedip05:35
anil_raoThe OVS documentation seems to suggest that VLANs used by tagged ports as part of the normal action are not compatible with explicit Open Flow flows.05:36
soichi#link: https://github.com/openvswitch/ovs/blob/5cf3edb311ffe6bc4df93cd7b759801c6932d81f/FAQ.md#q-my-openflow-controller-doesnt-see-the-vlans-that-i-expect05:37
anil_raotoday, I posted an email on the openstack-dev list (neutron) to confirm the fact that Neutron port MAC addresses are unique to a network and not globally unique. Armando confirmed this.05:37
soichi#link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/101260.html05:38
anil_raoSo, simply removing the VLAN tag check in the ingress capture flow won't work in the long run.05:38
anil_raoI am still investigating this but at the moment don't have a solution that is general enough to work in all situations.05:38
yamamot__hi05:39
anil_raosoichi: Thanks for posting the links.05:39
anil_raoHi05:39
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yamamot__ovs should move away from port-based vlan for long run05:40
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yamamot__s/ovs/&-agent/05:40
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reediphmm, interesting ..05:40
anil_raoyamamot__: didn't follow, can you elaborate05:41
yamamot__in-port based classification is more flexible than port tag + NORMAL action05:42
yamamot__ofagent works that way (no NORMAL action or tags)05:43
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yamamot__anyway just IMO for longer term.  not a solution for the bug you're working on.05:44
anil_raoyamamot__: Agree for the long term.05:44
anil_raoAt the moment, br-int's default behavior is performed via the normal action.05:45
yamamot__i still don't understand why only 1st vlan works that way for you.  i expected every vlans worked that way.05:45
anil_raoyamamot__: Yes, I am still puzzled about that. If the VLANs in use are say 3, 4 and 5, I only see the problem for VLAN 3.05:46
anil_raoIt seems to me that OVS avoids VLAN tags only for the first VLAN in use.05:46
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yamamot__i expect ovs extract vlan for matching from the packet itself.  in your scenario everything is no-vlan.05:47
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anil_raoLet's say that we have 3 virtual networks in use and their respective ports are tagged to VLANs 3, 4 and 5.05:48
anil_raoI only see the problem for VLAN 3 in this case.05:49
yamamot__anyway your should use in-port match instead i guess.05:50
anil_raoHow would be do an in-port patch for traffic headed toward a VM instances NIC?05:51
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anil_raoI.e. ingress traffic from the VM's perpective.05:52
yamamot__ah, i was confused.  you can't. :-)05:52
anil_raoWe already use in-port match for traffic egressing the VM. And that works correctly. :-)05:53
yamamot__we are talking about this flow? https://github.com/openstack/tap-as-a-service/blob/c612a729e758119c59c56ad7ed1347323033cd4f/neutron_taas/services/taas/drivers/linux/ovs_taas.py#L31305:53
anil_raoThat is correct.05:54
anil_raoSince Neutron port MAC addresses are unique ony within a virtual network (Armando confirmed this today) we had to place a check for dst MAC address + VLAN id.05:55
yamamot__can you provide flow dump with your setup (vlan 3,4,5) ?05:55
anil_raoyamamot__: I can do that tomorrow. I am at home now and don't have access to my test machine in the offic. Sorry.05:55
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yamamot__btw i thought it was a todo for you to put your flow diagram somewhere.  is it available now?05:56
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anil_raoWhat I need to understand is why OVS doesn't add VLAN tags only for the VLAN with the smallest number. Perhaps, this is an internal optimization for them.05:56
anil_raoyamamot__: I'll get that up soon. Again, that is in the office too.05:57
soichianil_rao: +1 for we need to understand is why OVS doesn't add VLAN tags only for the VLAN with the smallest number05:58
vinay_yadhavanil_rao: is this VLAN issue reported by to OVS or discussed in OVS forums05:58
anil_raovinay_yadhav: I suppose I will be spending some time on OVS forums now. :-)05:58
vinay_yadhavme too05:59
vinay_yadhavanil_rao:  Also i guess this is happening across all OVS versions, old and latest06:00
anil_raovinay_yadhav: Yes.06:01
anil_raoThe intersting thing is that when traffic leaks out of br-int into say br-tun (via the patch port) because the destination isn't on br-int, the VLAN tag gets properly added.06:01
anil_raoIts just that you can't catch it via an openflow flow inside br-int.06:02
yamamot__it's because tag is added during normal action processing06:03
anil_raoyamamot__: That is correct. However, the tags are visiblity for higher numbered VLANs so that seems kind of odd to me.06:04
anil_raoLet me post regarding this behavior on the OVS forums and see what kind of response we get.06:04
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yamamot__i don't understand why they behave inconsistent either06:04
soichi+106:04
anil_raoFrom the OVS FAQ, they seem to suggest that if one is using OpenFlow flows and VLANs, then explicit VLAN handling is necessary.06:07
yamamot__right06:08
anil_raoHowever, that seems too heavy handed for our application, especially since TaaS may not be deployed all the time.06:08
anil_raoI get the feeling that if anyone else within the OpenStack community has a need for adding dst MAC address checks in br-int they will also run into the same problem.06:11
anil_raoUnfortunately, outside of TaaS there is no one else at this time.06:11
yamamot__it's a common problem06:12
yamamot__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32043906:12
yamamot__see INITIAL_TAGGING06:12
reedipHave we checked the recent devstack deployment of TaaS? 2 or more ( incl me ) have faced issues in the current  restack of devstack06:16
anil_raoyamamot__: Thanks for the link to that spec. I'll go though it in detail.06:17
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yamamot__reedip: restack?06:18
reedipunstacking + stacking devstack06:18
reedip:)06:18
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yamamot__reedip: i haven't tried it with ovs recently06:19
reedipyamamot__ ok, I will share the logs after restacking .06:20
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anil_rao#topic Open Discussion06:22
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soichianil_rao, vinay_yadhav: i'd like to ask code review06:22
anil_raosoichi: Sure.06:23
vinay_yadhavsure06:23
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soichii mean a patch subitted by yamamoto to solve a bug in the test06:24
yamamot__soichi: i think i just approved it by myself. :-)  thank you for taking care of it anyway.06:26
yamamot__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349302/06:26
soichiyes, that one06:27
vinay_yadhav:) thanks06:27
soichiit is not in a hurry, but i guess we need to adjust to rename in the Neutron DB (tenant_id -> project_id)06:27
soichi#link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100822.html06:27
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anil_raoWe are out of time. Let's continue the discussion next week.06:29
soichisure06:29
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yamamot__soichi: i think Abhishek is interested in it06:30
soichiokay, thank you for your information06:30
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anil_rao#endmeeting06:31
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Aug 10 06:31:11 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)06:31
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yamamot__bye06:31
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anil_raoBye06:31
vinay_yadhavbye06:31
soichibye06:31
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claudiub#startmeeting hyper-v13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 13:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v'13:00
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claudiubhello :)13:00
abalutoiuhello13:01
claudiubmeeting seems empty today13:01
claudiubi guess it's summer after all13:02
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claudiubif there's no one joining, I will still post a short update for the main topics13:02
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sagar_nikamHi All13:03
claudiubhello. :)13:04
claudiubsagar_nikam: anyone else joining?13:04
sagar_nikambit late today. bad internet connection at home today13:04
sagar_nikami think vinod and sonu may join... we can start13:04
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claudiubsure13:05
claudiub#topic os-brick status13:05
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* claudiub opens a bottle of champagne13:05
claudiubsoo, all the patches merged on os-brick. :)13:05
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sagar_nikamwow !!!! cool13:06
claudiubthere's a CI for iSCSI, SMB and fibre channel connectors and it is stable13:06
claudiubso, life is good on os-brick, for now. :)13:06
sagar_nikamso that leaves the only one nova patch13:06
claudiubyep13:06
sagar_nikamwhich will get in O13:06
claudiubyep13:06
claudiubbut we'll get that merged in compute-hyperv in N anyways13:06
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sagar_nikamok13:07
claudiubnext topic13:07
claudiub#topic designate status13:07
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claudiubseems abalutoiu has encountered some issues with running the tempest tests, it seems like the zone are being created, but they are getting stuck in "PENDING", instead of "AVAILABLE"13:08
sagar_nikamok13:08
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claudiubso, some debugging is required. if needed, we'll ask graham for some help. :)13:09
claudiubnext topic13:10
claudiub#topic nova Hyper-V OVS VIF driver13:10
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claudiubso the patch that brings os-vif to nova merged.13:10
claudiub#link os-vif in nova patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269672/13:11
claudiubwhich means that we can go ahead with our own patch13:11
sagar_nikamchecking tha patc13:11
claudiub#link Hyper-V OVS VIF driver patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140045/13:11
claudiubwe'll have to do some tempest tests on it, as the hyper-v ci uses neutron-hyperv-agent, not neutron-ovs-agent13:12
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claudiubif this merges, we'll probably have to think about a new ci for it13:12
sagar_nikami will let sonu: and kvinod: about these patches13:13
sagar_nikamthey will need it13:13
sagar_nikamthey ca review as well13:13
claudiubsagar_nikam: cool, thanks! :)13:13
claudiubabalutoiu: will also test it. :)13:14
claudiubnext topic13:14
claudiub#topic monasca status13:14
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claudiub#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/monasca-agent+branch:master+topic:bp/add-windows-support13:15
claudiubsoo, i've rebased and simplified the patches a bit13:15
claudiubwill have to ping roland later13:15
sagar_nikamclaudiub: should i send these patches to Roland ?13:15
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sagar_nikami can do it13:15
claudiubsagar_nikam: yep, thanks. :)13:16
sagar_nikamok13:16
claudiubthe monasca meeting is in 2 hours13:16
sagar_nikamok13:16
claudiubso, i'll surely find him there13:16
sagar_nikami will try internally13:16
sagar_nikamfrom within my team13:16
claudiubgreat :)13:16
sagar_nikamso all 14 patches ready ?13:16
claudiubyeah, they can be reviewed13:17
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sagar_nikamok good13:17
sagar_nikamwe are very keen to pick up monasca and check and provide initial feedback13:18
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sagar_nikamhowever we dont have newton yet13:18
sagar_nikamas soon as we get newton13:18
sagar_nikammonasca-hyperv will be our top priority13:18
claudiubcool. :)13:19
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claudiub#topic neutron ports migration13:20
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claudiubsagar_nikam: so, we discussed this last time. did you folks had any chance to try it out?13:21
sagar_nikamkvinod: was on vacation last week. he came to office today13:21
sagar_nikamwill check with him tomorrow13:21
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sagar_nikamthis is for migration from vswitch to OVS switch ?13:22
claudiubi see. i'm curious about the results. :)13:22
claudiubyeah, from hyper-v ports to ovs ports13:22
claudiubfrom neutron-hyperv-agent to neutron-ovs-agent13:22
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claudiub#topic open discussion13:23
sagar_nikamok cool13:23
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sagar_nikami think this is a important feature13:23
sagar_nikamcan you provide the link of the patches13:24
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claudiubsagar_nikam: there are no patches13:24
claudiubas I've said last week, this is just something that *might* already work13:24
claudiubfrom what I've heard13:25
sagar_nikamok13:25
sagar_nikamgot it13:25
claudiubsoo, the voting period for the barcelona sessions ended on monday13:25
claudiubbut the final, accepted presentations weren't anounced, as far as i know13:25
claudiubso, fingers crossed. :)13:25
sagar_nikamhopefully hyperv has some presentations13:26
claudiubbut, just fyi, we'll also have some hyper-v / winstackers / os-win work session in barcelona as well13:26
sagar_nikamok13:27
claudiubsoo, anything else for this week?13:27
sagar_nikamjust wondering13:28
sagar_nikamany further progress on FreeRDP ?13:28
claudiubjust a second13:29
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claudiubc64cosmin: ohai13:30
c64cosminI'm here, hello13:30
c64cosmino/13:30
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sagar_nikamhi c64cosmin:13:30
c64cosminhello sagar_nikam13:30
sagar_nikamany further news on freerdp ?13:30
c64cosminI made keystone v3 work13:31
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c64cosminit will be merged pretty soon13:31
sagar_nikamok13:31
sagar_nikamhttps enabled keystone ?13:31
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c64cosminit should work with this update13:31
sagar_nikamthe bug we raised .. fix for it available ?13:31
sagar_nikamok cool13:31
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sagar_nikamwe can try13:31
sagar_nikamis it in stable branch ?13:32
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c64cosminnot yet13:32
c64cosminlast time I checked the https keystone issue13:33
c64cosminit was related to a cpprestsdk bug13:33
sagar_nikamok13:33
sagar_nikamand the cpprestsdk bug is fixed now ?13:33
claudiubthat's a pretty neat bug name13:34
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c64cosminas far as I remember I tested with a new cpprestsdk version13:34
c64cosminand it worked13:34
sagar_nikamclaudiub: :)13:34
sagar_nikamok13:34
sagar_nikamlet me know when the MSI is ready13:35
sagar_nikamwe will pick and try it13:35
c64cosminof course13:35
sagar_nikamok thanks13:36
sagar_nikamand plan for debian ?13:36
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sagar_nikamis that in process13:36
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c64cosminthat is not critical and has been postponed13:36
c64cosminwhen I will finish with the project I'm on, I will return to that13:36
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sagar_nikamok13:37
c64cosmina Linux user can currently use the build scripts, and we support the MSI13:37
sagar_nikamok13:37
c64cosminof course, when things "chill out" :), I will return to the packages13:37
sagar_nikamsure13:38
c64cosminthank you sagar_nikam13:38
c64cosminany other RDP related questions worth discussing?13:38
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sagar_nikamclaudiub: any further updates on containers and kubernetus ?13:39
sagar_nikamc64cosmin: no i am done... thanks13:39
claudiubatuvenie_: hi. ^13:40
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atuvenie_Sagar_nikam: going further with ovn, but it's a lot of trial and error13:40
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sagar_nikamok13:40
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sagar_nikamlast week you mentioned about cloudbase workin with13:41
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sagar_nikamApprenda13:42
atuvenie_Aprenda yes13:42
sagar_nikamcloudbase working with Apprenda13:42
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sagar_nikamkeen to know more about it... we can pick up anything which ready to be tested13:42
atuvenie_Awesome, will count on that13:43
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sagar_nikamatuvenie_: thanks13:44
claudiubanything else for today?13:44
sagar_nikamclaudiub: nothing more to discuss from my end... will try to get the monasca patches reviewed at the earliest13:44
sagar_nikamwill keep you posted13:45
claudiubcool! :)13:45
claudiubwell, we can end it here then13:45
sagar_nikambye alll... thanks for joining13:45
claudiubthanks folks for joining, see you next week!13:45
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claudiub#endmeeting13:45
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njohnston_#startmeeting neutron_qos14:00
njohnston_#chair ajo14:00
njohnston_Good day everyone!14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 14:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is njohnston_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
njohnston_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair for the meeting agenda14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos'14:00
openstackCurrent chairs: ajo njohnston_14:00
davidshaHey!14:00
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ajohi njohnston_  :D14:00
ajohi slaweq , davidsha14:00
slaweqhello14:00
ajoihrachys, we'll ping you eventually ;D14:00
njohnston_Hello davidsha, ajo, slaweq14:00
ajoralonsoh, ping :)14:01
ihrachysajo: we should sit one on one and talk about qos reviews if you want me to help. otherwise I am of no use.14:01
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davidsharalonsoh will be along shortly14:01
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njohnston_OK, I'll defer some of the ralonsoh stuff, but let's get started.14:02
ajoihrachys, ack, I'll 1:1 with you for a couple of them I think need your oversight14:02
njohnston_#topic RFEs14:02
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njohnston_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/158605614:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1586056 in neutron "[RFE] Improved validation mechanism for QoS rules with port types" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)14:02
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319694/14:02
njohnston_Validation change - how goes it?14:02
ralonsohsorry for the delay14:02
slaweqit's not going :/14:02
njohnston_I haven't been keeping track, what is going on?14:03
ajoslaweq, has been working in that with good progress, but may need this bit to avoid weirdnesses on the model: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351858/14:03
slaweqajo can explain more details but there are some issue with "design" of notifications14:03
ihrachysbecause we have qos driver from ajo refactoring to do, right?14:03
ajoihrachys, I may need your help having a look on that one ^ (moving notification_driver to qos_driver with "get_os_driver")14:03
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351858/  That is where this comes in, yes?14:04
ihrachysajo: I haven't paid attention. Why is it WIP and is armax on board?14:04
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ajoihrachys, because it's similar to what he's doing with trunk port service, but on a different way14:04
ajowe both agreed to proceed on probably diverging paths, but to review the final results, and then converge back to one single path14:04
njohnston_I am very interested in this because FWaaS is copying this model in part.14:04
ihrachysajo: does he use callbacks for that?14:04
ajoihrachys, yes, mostly, but there are drawbacks to that IMO, and some benefits, of course14:05
ihrachysok, let's discuss it when you will enlighten me14:05
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ajowe have another 1:1 set with him next week to talk about this topic again to check our progresses14:05
ajonjohnston_, basically, we realised that in the case of dos,14:06
ajoarghh14:06
ajoI have an auto corrector, let me disable it (qos->dos)14:06
ajodisabled14:06
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ajo':)14:06
njohnston_http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2000px-StartingMsdos2.jpg14:06
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ajobasically, we realized different things14:06
ajolol14:07
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ajo1) the QoS "notification" driver, needs to evolve beyond notifications, it's actually a driver14:07
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ajoalso, notifications are used in the context of ceilometer, etc, those are different things.14:07
ajo2) the concept of having multiple qos backend drivers (now notification drivers) is coupled to the concept of ML214:07
ajowhere we have different mechanism drivers, which potentially can have different backend, and communication mechanisms14:08
ajoso in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351858/14:08
ajowe rename QoSNotificationDriver into QosDriver,14:08
ajoand14:08
ajoinstead of having a config switch to provide notification_drivers = x, y ,z14:08
ajoit's the core plugin responsible to provide a14:09
ajo"get_qos_driver" method14:09
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njohnston_In your opinion is this a pattern that can be generalized to other similar use cases?14:09
ajofor ml2, I made it go through the mechanism driver to return a manager with all the possible qos drivers via a single callable (basically the current notification driver manager)14:10
ajonjohnston_, use cases which are coupled to the specific core plugin: yes14:10
njohnston_good, good14:10
ajonjohnston_, I'd guess that for fwaas, you're coupled to the l3 service14:10
njohnston_L2 and L3, now... we're using agent extensions for both kinds of agents14:11
ajoyes, the agent extensions look good14:11
ajoso, that's more or less the history14:12
ajoif you want to look on how trunk ports are being developed,14:12
ajohttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/vlan-aware-vms14:12
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ajomay be specifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347662/14:12
njohnston_So it sounds like everything is pending working out the kinks for this revamp of notifications.14:12
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ajoIt's not clear that we can find a common way of doing all those cases14:13
ajobut, having a common way would be the ideal14:13
ajoIMO14:13
njohnston_Something to work on in Ocata :-)14:14
ajoso ihrachys , if you can sync tomorrow or friday, I'd be happy to14:14
njohnston_OK, moving on.14:14
njohnston_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096314:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)14:14
njohnston_ralonsoh has been working on this change recently14:14
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344145/14:14
ralonsohI need reviews14:15
njohnston_I think that will be the theme for today14:15
ajoralonsoh, I'll go back to it, sorry,14:15
ajoralonsoh, explained me the technical details last week14:15
ralonsohno problem.14:16
ralonsohwhich technical details?14:16
ralonsohthis commit is only the front end14:16
ralonsohfront end: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344145/14:16
ajoand while there were some limitations on the model, he found a better way to do it (than I had in mind)14:16
ajoI was talking of the RFE in general :)14:16
ralonsohI think this won't have any problem14:16
ralonsohyes14:16
ajothe OVS implementation in particular14:16
ralonsohOVS implementation14:16
ajoyup14:17
ralonsohone sec14:17
ajoalso14:17
ajoralonsoh, has been working on the client side14:17
ajoopenstack client,14:17
ralonsohOVS implementation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318531/14:17
ajoto avoid the server side being locked by this.14:17
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ralonsohOSclient: I'm writing all bugs in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-neutron-support14:18
ralonsohYou can follow the work on the OSC in this etherpad14:18
ajowe could even release backend (LB or SRIOV) & frontend  & openstack client if we get caught by time, and leave OVS for Ocata14:18
ralonsohThat could be great14:18
njohnston_+114:18
ralonsohThanks!14:18
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njohnston_ok, next up14:19
njohnston_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096114:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560961 in neutron "[RFE] Allow instance-ingress bandwidth limiting" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)14:19
njohnston_slaweq has been hard at work here14:19
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/30362614:19
slaweqI wanted to talk about this one14:19
ajoprobably needing reviews too, I suspect ':)14:19
slaweqI made it for now as depend on this rule validation14:19
slaweqbut maybe we can go with it without improvement validation14:20
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ajoso we have an interesting chain of events14:20
slaweqajo: yes14:20
ajoslaweq, could it be made not dependent on rule validation to avoid locking ?14:20
slaweqbut I think that validation can be not done in Newton :/14:20
ajowe can just write a log warning for now in the backends not supporting that14:21
slaweqyes, it can be not depend on rule validation14:21
slaweqajo: exactly14:21
slaweqI was thinking that because for now we also have no validation in fact14:21
ajoas long as the long term plan is clear, and we properly document that, I'm good with that14:21
ajoihrachys,  ^14:21
ajois that ok with you too?14:21
slaweqand some rules are not supported by some agents14:21
ihrachysajo: yes, I don't think they MUST be bound.14:21
slaweqso it will not change anything IMHO14:21
ihrachysslaweq++14:22
ajoslaweq++14:22
slaweqthx14:22
ajothank *you* sir14:22
slaweqso this one should be ready for review14:22
slaweq:)14:22
njohnston_++reviews!14:22
ihrachysslaweq: links? are those rodolfo's patches?14:22
ajono, this is ingress bw limit, wait14:22
slaweqihrachys: my patch for review is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303626/14:23
ajo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303626/14:23
ihrachysajo: how do we stand on rodolfo's?14:23
slaweqand I started working on ovs agent support currently: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341186/ but it's not finished yet14:23
ihrachysI feel that we repeat the pattern from Mitaka when we slipped dscp14:23
ajoihrachys, sorry, I must have pinged you, that was the previous rfe14:23
slaweqlocally I have also support for linuxbridge so I will try to finish it and push both to review asap14:23
ajoihrachys, he's working on the openstack client (new requirement) to speed up things14:24
ajoihrachys, he has a good foundation for the frontend14:24
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ajoand ihrachys , I'm ok if OVS support slips off this release, because that one is a bit more complicated14:24
ajoif we get it, great14:24
ajoif we don't , then, next release is ok for me14:24
ihrachysajo: we'll have linuxbridge?14:25
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ralonsohfor min_bw_egress yes14:25
ralonsohI'm working on it14:25
ajoihrachys,  he has SR-IOV ready14:25
ihrachyswe need at least one backend14:25
ajoand, being SR-IOV the origin of this RFE, I'd be happy14:26
ihrachysok14:26
ajo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347302/14:26
ajothis came from operators using SR-IOV wanting min bw support :)14:26
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njohnston_OK, moving on14:27
ajoso, ralonsoh to focus things, can we concentrate efforts on frontend + sr-iov + cli ?14:27
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njohnston_#topic openstack client14:27
njohnston_#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/neutron-client-qos14:27
njohnston_ralonsoh has been breaking this up into bugs and implementing it14:27
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njohnston_Here are the changes he has put in so far:14:28
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/35065514:28
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/35118714:28
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/35278914:28
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/35156514:28
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/35247714:28
ralonsohajo: i'm on it now14:28
njohnston_lots of really good work here14:28
ajoholy *wow* :)14:28
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slaweqralonsoh: what about Bandwidth limit rule commands?14:29
slaweqthere is no bug reported for this one?14:29
ralonsohgive me one week14:29
ralonsohi'll finish all qos commands14:29
ralonsohon sdk and OSclient14:29
njohnston_Way to go ralonsoh, you're a machine14:29
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ajo:)14:30
njohnston_#topic Bugs14:31
njohnston_#link http://bit.ly/1WhXlzm14:31
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)"14:31
njohnston_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160070814:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1600708 in neutron "Update ‘--max-kbps’ and ‘--max-burst-kbps’ parameter to 2147483648 or greater than 2147483648 using qos-bandwidth-limit-rule-update command,Neutron server thrown an exception" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to QunyingRan (ran-qunying)14:31
njohnston_This has a fix, it looks like it needs reviews.14:31
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350491/14:31
njohnston_so please take a look at it14:32
ajo+2'd, makes sense and it's simple14:32
njohnston_excellent!14:32
njohnston_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160892114:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1608921 in neutron "The signature of the QoSPluginBase methods is wrong" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo)14:32
njohnston_This also looks good, it just needs +2 reviews.14:32
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349965/14:32
ajoYes, that one is very low prio, just cosmetic details14:32
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ajosome parameters on the api definition were in wrong order14:33
ajothat's never checked by abs.abstract method14:33
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ajoand In some places we were using _obj to refer classes,14:33
ajocan be considered a clean up,14:33
ajoI'll discuss that in my sync with ihrachys and get reviewer attention,14:34
ajobut it's unimportant stuff actually14:34
njohnston_ok14:34
njohnston_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/158729114:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1587291 in neutron "Specifying '-F' or '--filed' parameter in the qos related commands, returns abnormal result" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to dongwenshuai (dong-wenshuai)14:34
njohnston_This one has been out there a while, but I just added the 'qos' tag.  Looks like it needs reviews as well.14:34
njohnston_#link https://review.openstack.org/32985214:34
njohnston_I just noticed it before the meeting, I haven't had time to really look at it.14:35
ajowhat's -F ?14:35
njohnston_--fields14:38
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njohnston_#topic Open Discussion14:39
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njohnston_Anyone have anything else we didn't cover?14:39
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ajoI certainly need more sleep :)14:40
davidsha+114:40
njohnston_All right, I think that's it then.  Thanks, everyone!14:41
davidshaThanks14:41
njohnston_Next time we meet, N-3 will be close at hand14:41
ajothanks a lot , and thanks for all the hard work14:41
njohnston_#endmeeting14:41
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ajothanks njohnston_14:41
ralonsohgoodbye!14:41
slaweqthx, bye14:41
davidshacya!14:41
njohnston_my pleasure ajo14:41
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rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 15:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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rhochmuthAgenda is at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda15:00
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rhochmuthAgenda for Wednesday August 10, 2016 (15:00 UTC)15:00
rhochmuth1.Monasca Logstash-Output-Plugin ( https://github.com/logstash-plugins/logstash-output-monasca_log_api/pull/1 )15:00
rhochmuth2.Cassandra update:15:00
rhochmuth1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/monasca-cassandra15:00
rhochmuth3.Dimensions API15:00
rhochmuth1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/dimensions-api15:00
rhochmuth4.Last-value15:00
rhochmuth1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/last-value15:00
rhochmuth5.Notification Engine plugin15:00
rhochmuth1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/notification-engine-plugin15:00
rhochmuth6.Metric ID parameter15:00
Kamil_o/15:00
rhochmuth1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/metric-id-query-parameter15:00
bkleio/15:00
witekhellp15:00
witekhello15:00
witek:)15:00
Fdaisukeo/15:01
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rhochmuthHopefully, we can get through this agenda quickly, then have open discussion15:01
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rhochmuthI'll just start with the first item in the agenda and then work through it15:02
rhochmuthI'm officially on vacation15:02
rhochmuth#topic Monasca Logstash-Output-Plugin ( https://github.com/logstash-plugins/logstash-output-monasca_log_api/pull/1 )15:02
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Kamil_That's me15:02
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Kamil_We pushed some weeks ago a pull request to logstash15:02
Kamil_https://github.com/logstash-plugins/logstash-output-monasca_log_api/pull/115:02
rhochmuthyes, we discussed here previousely15:03
Kamil_To contribute the monasca output plugin.15:03
Kamil_Unfortunaly nothing happend since that push. So maybe folk could just add a comment to push it forward15:03
rhochmuthOK, will do15:03
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witek+115:03
rhochmuthtsv: added a comment15:03
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Kamil_maybe i need to ping logstash again15:04
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Kamil_But that's all. We can move to the next topic15:04
rhochmuththx Kamil_15:05
witekif that does not work, we could think of new openstack repo15:05
rhochmuthi'll add a comment after meeting is over15:05
Kamil_Thank you15:05
rhochmuthis there a thumbs up button15:05
rhochmuthfor the pull requests, or it is just a comment?15:06
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rhochmuthi was wondering if there was a way to vote on the PRs15:06
witekjust +1 i reckon15:06
Kamil_i think there is also a thumbs up button. I created already one15:06
Kamil_or it was a thumbs up smiley in a comment15:07
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rhochmuth#topic Cassandra update:15:07
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rhochmuthhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/monasca-cassandra15:07
rhochmuthSo, all the Cassandra code in it's current form as well as DevStack has been merged15:07
witekthanks shinya_kwbt15:08
rhochmuth+115:08
rhochmuthI believe we are still waiting to here back from me and DT on resource commitments15:09
rhochmuthI don't have a firm commitment, but I think we'll be able to put 0.5 engineer on this15:09
witekit would be great to have your support15:10
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witekI've seen Shinya had some problems with setting up tempest tests15:11
witekhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/352245/15:11
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rhochmuthnot too bad of a problem i hope15:12
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rhochmuthupgrading to new version of ubuntu15:12
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rhochmuthohhh, i also want to point out that i've added all the discussion notes from some of the emails that w've exchanged to the Cassandra blueprint15:13
rhochmuthso we don't lose track of the ideas we've been having15:14
rhochmuthi think we should close out that bluepring though15:14
witekgood idea, thanks for that15:14
rhochmuthand create another blueprint to cover future changes15:14
rhochmuthit would be a good idea to mark the blueprint as implemented, which it functionally is at this point15:15
rhochmuthand address future changes in a separate blueprint/s15:15
rhochmuthi'll work on that15:15
witekwhere is the new blueprint?15:15
rhochmuthit isn't created yet15:15
witekI can work on it too15:15
witekok15:15
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rhochmuthok, thanks15:15
rhochmuthi think the main part is all the tasks at the bottom should be recored in a new bp15:16
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rhochmuthso, are you going to create a new bp, or should i15:16
witekall in one blueprint?15:17
rhochmuththat is waht i was going to do to keep things easy right now15:17
rhochmuthi think some of those ideas/tasks are undefined at this point15:17
witekok, i'll do that15:17
rhochmuthok, thx witek15:18
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rhochmuthi'm thinking we should have a more complete/thorough planning session on Cassandra to15:18
rhochmuthso we can get organized some more15:18
rhochmuthi'm on vacaton for a couple of weeks15:18
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bkleidenied15:19
witeki'm in vacation starting on friday15:19
bkleialso denied15:19
rhochmuthbut maybe we can do that in a few weeks15:19
witeklet's make it in the first sep week15:19
sloganI don't get vacation.15:19
rhochmuthhow about early September then15:20
witekyes15:20
rhochmuthslogan_: you live in San Diego15:20
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rhochmuthIsn't that always a vacation15:20
sloganTouche15:20
sloganYeah, bash prompt looks the same in San Diego and South Dakota15:20
rhochmuthOK, so earl September it is for a Cassandra summit15:21
witekcould you coordinate?15:21
rhochmuthhopefully shinya will be back15:21
rhochmuthsure, i'll coordinate15:22
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rhochmuth#topic Dimensions API15:22
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rhochmuthhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/dimensions-api15:22
rhochmuthKaiyan from HPE is adding support for the DImensions Names resource15:23
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rhochmuthSee the review at, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350830/15:23
bkleii've been watching that patch -- will pull in and test when it's baked15:23
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rhochmuthAfter this review is completed both the dimensions names and values, which bklei implemented, will be 100% complete15:24
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rhochmuthSo, that will mark the completion of that blueprint15:24
rhochmuthThx bklei!15:24
bkleilooks like kaiyan is making good progress on part 2!15:24
rhochmuthrbak: You'll also want to watch those reviews15:24
rhochmuthas they will impact Grafana15:24
rhochmuthAdditionally, I could see changes to the Monasca UI (Horizon) that could be made15:25
rhochmuthThe changes aren't required, but if they are, significant performance improvements will be possible15:25
rhochmuthSo, if someone from the UI side is interested in looking at the MOnasca UI changes, that would be helpful15:26
bkleione of us might pick that up -- if shinya doesn't15:26
witekperhaps you could define work packages in the blueprint, so someone can pick it up15:27
rhochmuththx bklei15:27
rhochmuthNot sure what work packages are15:27
rhochmuthshould they be separate bps15:27
witeki was writing with bklei in parallel15:28
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witeki meant define what could be done, so someone could implement it15:28
rhochmuthOK, i'll add bp for the Monasca UI changes for the dimensions resource API15:29
sloganor maybe create blueprints from those definitions15:29
sloganif needed15:29
bkleiso somewhere in monasca-ui we do a metrics-list that could be replaced by kaiyan's new endpoint i guess15:29
bkleiin addition to grafana15:30
sloganthe code should be very model view (it's intrinsic with Django)15:30
rhochmuthcorrect, something like that15:30
bkleisounds like slogan is volunteering15:30
rhochmuthhe's on permanent vacation15:30
rhochmuthi thought15:31
sloganIt's complicated15:31
sloganhave you ever seen me checkin anything?15:31
rhochmuthohh, you still don't have approval?15:31
slogannot yet15:32
rhochmuthis that in progress?15:32
slogannot sure15:32
rhochmuththx15:32
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rhochmuthi'll create the bp, and between shinya, charter, fujitsu and slogan, we can address15:33
slogancool15:33
rhochmuthlet's close this out and move on15:33
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rhochmuth#topic Last-value15:33
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rhochmuthhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/last-value15:33
rhochmuthSo, I believe that this review is still up15:34
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rhochmuthActually, the code has been merged15:34
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rhochmuthSo, I believe that bp should be marked as completed15:34
witekapi is not merged yet15:35
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rhochmuthWell, almost then15:35
rhochmuthlost track these past few days15:35
rhochmuththanks witek15:35
rhochmuthSo, I guess that is another one to possibly get added to the Monasca UI too15:36
rhochmuthI just realized15:36
rhochmuthI'll create a bp for that15:37
rhochmuth#topic Notification Engine plugin15:38
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rhochmuthI think this bp, is nearing completion15:38
rhochmuththe initial support has been added15:38
rhochmuththere are some bug fixes in progress, as well as updates to the HipChat formatting, and the JIRA plugin is in progress.15:39
rhochmuthThe Slack and Hipchat plugins are functional15:39
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rhochmuth#topic Metric ID parameter15:40
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rhochmuthhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/metric-id-query-parameter15:40
rhochmuthWe had talked about this at the mid-cycle15:40
rhochmuthWe would like to proceed with adding this capability15:40
rhochmuthI don't beleive that I marked it as approved15:41
bkleithis one makes me sad15:41
bkleiwas hoping for a caching solution15:41
rhochmuthbut would like to move it to the approved state15:41
rhochmuthwe are still looking at caching15:41
rhochmuthbut in the short-term we would like to add this15:41
rhochmuththere isn't any downside as far as I know15:41
witekI think it would be good to have it for C* as well15:42
rhochmuthbasically, you can specifiy a metric/s in a measurements or statistics query15:42
rhochmuthyes, it will also be applicable to C*15:42
rbakJust so you know, the blueprint mentions grafana, but after looking closer at grafana I don't believe this will be useful there.15:42
rhochmuththx rbak15:42
rhochmuthi'll update bp and remove grafana15:42
rbakGrafana just isn't designed for one query to change/impact the next.15:43
rhochmuthso, are folks ok if i move this to approved?15:43
rhochmuthwe are still looking at caching, but it is extremely difficult15:44
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bkleii'm good with that -- no harm to adding it.15:45
rhochmuththx15:45
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rhochmuthgoing once, twice, …15:45
witekmetric id is metric_hash?15:46
rhochmuthcorrect15:46
rhochmuthit is really an opague ID15:46
rhochmuthit could be the hash or somethign else15:46
witekso it is just extending api without schema change?15:46
rhochmuthcorrect15:46
witek+115:47
rhochmuthactually, i beleive to handle influxdb, there is a change where we create a ID15:47
rhochmuthand store that as a private tag15:47
rhochmuthsorry, i spoke too soon15:48
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rhochmuthbit influxdb is schemaless15:48
witekok, i'll talk with my team and comment on review15:49
rhochmuthok, thanks witek15:49
rhochmuthSo, that concludes the agenda topics15:49
rhochmuth#topic open discussion15:49
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rhochmuthDoes anyone have any additional items to discuss15:50
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rhochmuthit looks like Claudiu Belu has been active with the windows support in the Agent15:50
rhochmuthTHat would be worth looking at15:50
rhochmuthAll his reviews are passing agina with Jenkins15:51
rhochmuthAnd we made a lot of changes from when he first started to this point15:51
rhochmuthWhich I'm sure caused him a bit or rework15:51
rhochmuthThe Windows support was mainly focused on adding support for HyperV15:52
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claudiubyeay15:52
rhochmuthhi claudiub15:52
rhochmuthit looks like you are back15:52
claudiubhyper-v and other metrics15:53
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rhochmuthso, is this ready for review again?15:53
claudiubbut the hypervisor metrics are the biggest change15:53
claudiubimo, yes15:53
rhochmuthok, will try and get folks to look at this15:54
claudiubyeah15:54
rhochmuthwe were in the process of getting hyperv running at hpe15:54
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rhochmuththat took longer than expected15:54
rhochmuthactually, i'm still not sure we ever got everything working15:54
claudiubbut the main blocker was how to have agent checkers with platform-based behaviour.15:54
claudiubwell, the folks from hpe are regular attendees at the hyper-v meetings15:55
claudiubthey said everything's working on their end15:55
rhochmuthdo you have a contact?15:55
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rhochmuthfor hpe?15:56
claudiubyeah, sagar_nikam is the main person15:56
rhochmuthok, thanks15:56
rhochmuthi'll track him down15:56
claudiuband then kvinod and Sonu15:56
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rhochmuthok, i know kvinod and Sonu15:56
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rhochmuthAre there any other topics for today?15:58
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bkleinegative ghostrider, pattern is full15:58
rhochmuthbklei ?15:58
bkleitop gun ref15:58
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rhochmuththanks everyone15:59
rhochmuthi'm going to close out the meeting then15:59
witekthanks15:59
bkleicya15:59
sloganbye15:59
Kamil_bye15:59
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witekhave a good time15:59
rhochmuth#endmeeting15:59
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eglute#startmeeting defcore16:00
markvoelker#startmeeting defcore16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 16:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'defcore'16:00
openstackmarkvoelker: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.16:00
eglute#chair markvoelker hogepodge16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker16:00
eglutebeat markvoelker by 1 sec! :)16:00
markvoelker=)16:00
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catherine_d|1:-)16:00
gemao/16:00
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eglute#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.1316:01
markvoelkereglute: let's have you drive the meeting today then.  I may have to step out briefly anyway.16:01
eglute#topic agenda16:01
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eglutethansk markvoelker16:01
hogepodgeo/16:01
eglute#topic Follow up from Summer Sprint16:01
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eglutethanks everyone for coming out to San Antonio, was great having you all here!16:02
gemaeglute: thanks for having us :D16:02
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eglutewe did a lot of things!16:02
eglutenow that the spec has landed, whats next?16:02
markvoelkereglute: I think hogepodge was looking into getting some of our docs published on docs.oo.o (or somewhere).  Maybe this is a good candidate?16:03
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markvoelkerAlso, we have some poeple going to the QA midcycle I think, and they were going to discuss it with the QA folks.16:03
markvoelker(hogepodge again?)16:03
eglutewhen is the QA midcycle, and who is going?16:03
hogepodgeyeah, I can take it to the next qa meeting16:04
hogepodge#link Sept 19 in Frankfurt https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints16:04
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hogepodgeI'm going16:04
shamailo/16:04
eglutenice.16:05
gemaI am also going16:05
eglute#action hogepodge gema to discuss defcore spec at the QA midcycle16:06
egluteregarding our docs published on docs- markvoelker hogepodge have you spoken to anyone so far?16:06
hogepodgeeglute: no, not yet16:07
egluteok, i will start the conversation then16:07
hogepodgeeglute: I could possibly get to it on Monday next week, I'm on travel again starting this afternoon, but I'm happy to have you take it16:07
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eglute#action eglute contact the docs team regarding moving defcore docs to docs16:08
egluteso we want the docs moved from our own repo to be under the docs repo, correct?16:08
markvoelkereglute: I think we just want to get published versions out on the website16:09
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eglutemarkvoelker do you mean the guidelines?16:09
hogepodgeno movement is necessary, it's just a job to publish to docs.openstack.org16:09
markvoelkerWe can leave the actual files in our repo.16:09
egluteah ok16:09
eglutethanks hogepodge and markvoelker16:09
markvoelkerYes, Guidelines and also some of our other docs that we point people to regularly (the test spec may be one of those going forward)16:09
eglutesounds good16:10
gemait may need moving to the right folder in our repo, though16:10
gemasince it is in the working folder16:10
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markvoelkersure16:10
eglutethats ok, shouldnt be too hard16:10
hogepodgegema: +1 to moving it to our official docs16:10
eglutenext topic: Major issues report status16:11
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eglute#topic Major issues report status16:11
gemahogepodge: will do that16:11
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markvoelkerI got most of the first cut done on the plane on the way home from Texas16:11
markvoelkerI should have a first cut posted up to gerrit tonight or possibly tomorrow16:11
eglutethanks markvoelker!16:11
eglutelook forward to seeing it16:11
gema+116:12
markvoelkerOnce that's posted we can iterate in gerrit per the norm16:12
egluteanything else on this subject? i am really excited about this report16:12
shamaileglute: +1, same here16:12
gemayep16:12
markvoelkerI should mention: I'm doing the formatting in RST since that's our usual doc format16:12
eglutethanks markvoelker16:13
markvoelkerThat means we could publish it to the websites, transform it to other formats, etc.16:13
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* shamail just realized +1 == same here, doh.16:13
eglutelol16:13
eglute#topic DefCore name change status16:13
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egluteso we voted to have the name changed to Interop Working Group16:14
markvoelkerOne of my action items from the midcycle was to update the POC patch I already have out with the name "Interop Working Group"16:14
markvoelkerI haven't gotten to it yet. =)  But it's a trivially small change, so I'll add it to my queue for this afternoon.16:14
markvoelkerWe will also want to get that on the Board agenda16:14
eglutethanks markvoelker16:14
eglute#action eglute to add name change to the board agenda16:15
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eglutenext board meeting is on August 23rd16:15
egluteso we have a little time16:15
markvoelkerJust to be clear, I think it's likely that the name won't change immediately...we'll want to coordinate messaging with the Foundation/BoD.16:15
egluteright16:16
markvoelkerBut the patch will at least show what's changing and what the name will be so we can work on the next steps16:16
eglute:)16:16
eglutetalking of the board, we will also need the board to approve 2016.08 json document16:16
markvoelker(in other words: review it, but don't worry about workflow+1 yet =p)16:16
egluteright :)16:17
egluteor markvoelker could -1 workflow16:17
markvoelkereglute: I already marked it WIP and will do so again when the new patchset goes up16:17
eglute:)16:17
eglutethank markvoelker!16:17
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eglutegerrit makes it very easy to +1 workflow. i try hard not to click it accidentally16:18
eglutedid we have any defcore process docs changed in the last couple months?16:18
eglutebesides the name change?16:18
AlanClarkI set time on the agenda for DefCore at the August meeting.16:19
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markvoelkereglute: 2016A hasn't actually been approved16:19
eglutethank you AlanClark!16:19
markvoelkerhttps://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/doc/source/process/2016A.rst (note "draft" status)16:19
eglute#action eglute to add 2016A to the board report for approval16:19
eglutemarkvoelker i thought it was-- but i will double check16:20
egluteanything else from midcycle? we got a lot done16:21
* gema still recovering from all the food :D16:21
shamailI agree eglute, he new version of Gerrit makes it really easy.16:21
eglutethere are a lot of action items in the ehterpad16:21
shamailthe*16:21
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eglutegema hope you enjoyed it :)16:22
gemaeglute: absolutely16:22
eglute#topic 2016.08 Guideline Final Reviews16:22
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markvoelkereglute: I have an AI to work on updates to HACKING.  I made a start on it, but backburned it in favor of the 2016.08 and major issues report.  ETA next week probably.16:22
eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351339/16:22
eglutethank markvoelker16:22
eglute^^thank you!16:23
markvoelkerditto for the FAQ-on-configuring-tempest-for-refstack thing16:23
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eglutethanks!16:24
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markvoelkerOk, on the 2016.08 patch: I made a couple of additions today to pick up changes we had in flight in next.json when we created teh 2016.08 draft16:24
eglutewe can go over all the AIs next meeting. I didnt think people would have too much time to get to them between travels and this meeting16:24
markvoelkerThose include dropping some tests for networking that (genuinely) need admin, and the image sharing stuff that needs multiple user accounts16:25
eglutethank you markvoelker16:25
eglutei will review it later today16:25
egluteeveryone else please review it as well!16:25
markvoelkerIt would be good if someone could check flags vs 2016.01 and see if there's anything that looks out of place16:26
catherine_d|1I think we should land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338609/ before the 2016.0816:26
markvoelker(e.g. flags we unintentionally dropped or unintentionally carried when we meant to drop them)16:26
markvoelkercatherine_d|1: yeah, I just saw your new patchset on that one.  Will review shortly16:27
eglutecatherine_d|1 you are right! will review it today16:27
eglutewe will not merge 2016.08 until the board approves it16:27
catherine_d|1the new addition here is we remove images-v2-remove since it has no test16:27
markvoelkerI think it does for next.json exactly what one of my last patchsets did for 2016.08, so we're in sync...just need to actually land it.16:27
catherine_d|1yea they are in sync ...16:28
eglute#action eglute to review flags between 2016.01 and 2016.08 and make sure none were dropped16:29
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markvoelkereglute: would also be good to double check test aliases in 2016.0816:29
eglute#action eglute to double check test aliases in 2016.0816:30
egluteeveryone else are welcome to check aliases and flags as well16:30
catherine_d|1will do16:30
egluteor if you see something that should not be there. or if you dont see something that should be there :)16:30
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eglutethank you catherine_d|116:31
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eglutecatherine_d|1 already talked about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338609/16:31
egluteeveryone please review it16:32
egluteand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353287/16:32
egluteboth markvoelker and i have already +2, it is ready to merge unless someone brings up any concerns16:32
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egluteTalking of reviews, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351363/16:33
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eglutehogepodge i think it needs something to make the ghost of Jenkins happy16:34
hogepodgeeglute: I probably messed up the dependency chain, it needs 2016.08 to exist to work16:34
egluteah ok16:35
markvoelkerFrom the log: "2015.08.json: : [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '2015.08.json'"16:35
markvoelkerNotice 2015.08 vs 2016.0816:35
eglutenice catch markvoelker16:36
hogepodgemarkvoelker: ah ha, a tpyo16:36
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hogepodgeI'll update16:36
eglutethank you hogepodge16:36
egluteanything else regarding 2016.08 Guideline?16:36
eglute#topic v2.0 of Guideline Format16:37
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markvoelkerjust one thing16:37
eglutego ahead markvoelker16:37
markvoelkerThere's the still the matter of a few neutron tests that use admin creds *unnecessarily*.16:37
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markvoelkerI have a patch up for to fix that in tempest that needs some more work.  But if it doesn't land, we need to drop those back to advisory16:37
markvoelkerBefore 2016.08 is approved16:38
eglutedo we have a launchpad for this?16:38
markvoelkerSo I'll plan on putting up a backup patch to do that16:38
hogepodgeI would suggest that we include them flagged or advisory for now, unless the changes land before the update16:38
hogepodgeeither way they wouldn't be required if they don't work before approval16:38
markvoelkerhogepodge: Ok, that's probably reasonable...given that we only have a couple weeks that's probably the more likely scenario16:38
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catherine_d|1once we incldue them as flagged we can not un-flagged them ..16:39
catherine_d|1on an approved guideline16:39
markvoelkerSo I'll update my 2016.08 review with another patchset with that change and we can unflag them before 2016.08 goes from draft to approved if the tempest patch lands in time16:39
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egluteok, we just need to be sure to do final review of 2016.08 before taking it to the board16:40
markvoelkercatherine_d|1: correct.  The idea here would be basically flag them now since we think the tempest change may not make it in time.16:40
markvoelkerIf it does, we'll update 2016.08 before we send it up to the board for approval16:41
markvoelkerBut if the tempest change doesn't land, they'll stay flagged until next Guideline.16:41
catherine_d|1that is good16:41
eglutemarkvoelker will they be advisory and flagged if patch doesnt land?16:43
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markvoelkereglute: in cases where that would leave no tests for an entire capability I'll leave it as advisory.  For cases where there are still good tests, I'll flag them.16:43
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egluteok16:44
eglutethank you!16:44
egluteanything else on the guideline?16:44
catherine_d|1markvoelker: should that statement be capture in the hacking file?16:44
markvoelkercatherine_d|1: I'll look into that with the HACKING updates I have in flight.16:44
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eglutethanks markvoelker16:45
catherine_d|1markvoelker: thx16:45
eglute#topic v2.0 of Guideline Format16:45
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310621/16:46
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eglutehogepodge any changes since last week?16:46
hogepodgeThere's not a whole lot to say about this. I spoke with Andrey yesterday, and he's ok with me landing our changes on top of his patch16:46
hogepodgeIt's going to take a bit of work to capture all of the design we did last week. I'm planning on sending the revision on Friday.16:47
eglutethank you hogepodge16:47
eglutedo you need anything from us before then?16:47
markvoelkerNeat.  And I think we decided we'll plan on using 1.6 for 2016.08 still since we don't actually plan to add any new target programs in 2016.08, right?16:47
hogepodgeyeah16:48
markvoelker(err....1.5 I mean)16:48
hogepodge1.5/1.6. The difference is 1.6 is more restrictive to prevent some things from sneaking in like we found at the sprint.16:49
egluteand 2016.08 will be updated to 1.6 correct?16:49
hogepodgeeglute: yes16:49
markvoelkerOk, right...sorry, couldn't remember which number was in flight for a sec there. =)16:50
markvoelkereglute: Yeah, my patch is written with 1.5, hogepodge has a patch that's dependent on mine that will take it up to 1.616:50
eglutegreat! thanks markvoelker and hogepodge16:50
markvoelker(hogepodge's patch also creates 1.6...it doesn't actually exist in our repo yet =p)16:51
egluteanything else on this topic?16:51
hogepodgeno16:51
eglute#topic name change16:51
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eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327086/16:51
eglutewe already talked a little bit about it16:52
egluteanything in addition to what was already discussed?16:52
markvoelkerYeah, I think we basically already covered this.  In a nutshell: I'll post a new patchset, people will review it, we won't merge it until we coordinate with the Foundation/BoD16:52
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eglutesounds good to me. anyone else want to add anything?16:53
egluteif not, we have a few minutes left.16:54
egluteanybody want to discuss anything?16:54
egluteor end now?16:54
markvoelkerI'm good.16:54
gemagood here16:55
catherine_d|1me too16:55
eglutethanks everyone!!16:55
* markvoelker is also hungry and would totally use that extra 5 minutes to go get a sammich16:55
eglute#endmeeting16:55
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hogepodgethanks everyone!16:55
gemathank you guys!16:55
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robcresswell#startmeeting horizon20:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 20:01:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:01
robcresswellSorry for lateness20:01
david-lyleo/20:01
robcresswellAnyone around for meeting?20:01
TravT_o/20:01
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david-lyleoooh, packed house20:02
robcresswell-.-20:02
TravTlet's party20:02
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rdopierao/20:02
robcresswellThe agenda is equally empty20:02
TravTi move we adjourn20:02
* TravT :)20:02
david-lyleI'm think people are just focused on reviews :P20:03
robcresswellheh20:03
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TravTi've encountered some fun with plugin testing20:03
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robcresswellWhile we have a few people here, is there anything that needs dicussion? Otherwise people can have their hour back20:03
robcresswellI'm pretty pleased with the steady march towards FF. I think we're on track.20:03
david-lyleTravT: fun as in it just works ?20:04
TravTno20:04
* david-lyle didn't think so20:04
robcresswellWhat were you testing?20:04
TravTin the SL UI plugin, we put a requirement on the published horizon tarball20:04
TravThttps://github.com/openstack/searchlight-ui/blob/master/test-requirements.txt#L720:04
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TravThowever, was getting errors that newer xstatic packages weren't avail20:05
TravTturns out pip is caching the published tarball20:05
TravTat least that is current theory20:05
david-lyleisn't there a no-cache option?20:05
TravTis that in tox?20:05
robcresswellYeah20:06
robcresswelldownloadcache20:06
robcresswellI think?20:06
david-lyle--ignore-installed20:06
david-lylethere's --no-cache-dir as well20:07
TravTokay, i'll try that.20:07
TravTit doesn't show up on zuul20:07
TravTbecause they are fresh everything20:07
TravTanyway, this just happened to be what i was looking at right before eating lunch20:07
david-lyleright new server every time20:07
robcresswellIts probably because tox thinks your dependency is matched so it doesnt try to do anything new with?20:07
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robcresswellAnyway, doesn't look like we need the hour20:09
robcresswellSo lets call it early :)20:10
ediardoo/20:10
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robcresswellKeep reviewing priorities please; we've only about a dozen patches to land in the next two weeks.20:10
robcresswellThanks everyone20:10
TravT_sounds good20:10
TravT_thanks20:10
robcresswell#endmeeting20:10
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alaski#startmeeting nova_cells21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 10 21:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells'21:00
melwitto/21:00
alaskimriedem confirmed the meeting time and then doesn't show up. that guy21:01
dansmitho721:01
melwitthaha21:01
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alaskiwell let's forge ahead quickly21:01
alaski#topic testing21:01
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mriedemo/21:01
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alaskidansmith: any updates on grenade land?21:02
dansmithalaski: oh, we were supposed to talk about that.. I've been mostly consumed with devstack-tempest-neutron stuff21:02
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dansmithalaski: that's coming to a close today hopefully, so lets chat tomorrow morning and make sure I know what I said I was going to do21:02
dansmithbecause it wasn't clear to me from the etherpad21:03
alaskisounds good.21:03
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dansmithalso,21:03
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dansmiththere are 600 things in the check queue right now, and getting runs is like a 24 hour affair,21:03
dansmithso getting anything tested with grenade is likely to be "fun"21:03
alaskiyeah...21:03
alaskijust getting a rough sketch in place would be useful though. we can continue pushing on it after freeze if necessary to get it in order21:04
dansmithyeah, well, let's do that tomorrow21:05
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alaskiroger21:05
alaski#topic Open reviews21:05
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alaskiI'm only aware of a few things that still need eyes21:05
alaskimelwitt has a patch series on instance groups21:05
alaskihttps://review.openstack.org/33099521:06
alaskiI have https://review.openstack.org/263927 for using the buildrequest in an instance show request21:06
alaskiI'm currently working on the followup for listing instances21:06
alaskiwhich involves replicating db sorting and filtering in python :(21:06
mriedemok i was waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263927/ to be rebased21:07
mriedemso i'll star that one21:07
melwittI pushed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326906/ last night for the rpc transport move from RequestContext and caching21:07
mriedemso feel free to bug me for reviews21:07
alaskimelwitt also has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326906/ on mq switching21:07
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melwittoh, darn it sorry21:08
alaskinope, I was too slow21:08
alaskithat's all I'm aware of that's ready for review21:08
alaskiwell, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322311 which is a devstack change21:09
alaski#topic Open discussion21:09
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dansmithI demand to know what animal cellsv2 is21:09
melwittthere are some cell0 things I see in the priorities etherpad but I wasn't sure what the status on those is right now21:09
melwittor are those not for newton perhaps21:09
alaskidansmith: that requires an ML post and a long discussion21:10
dansmithalaski: or a secret discussion, so I understand21:10
alaskitrue21:11
mriedemit would be a mushroom21:11
mriedembecause they spread21:11
alaskimelwitt: those are good candidates for N, but need someone to pick them up since doffm is locked away these days21:11
dansmithmaybe doffm-in-handcuffs can be our mascot?21:11
mriedem#help need help with cell0 patches21:12
mriedem#action dansmith and alaski to talk about grenade plan21:12
alaski#chair mriedem21:12
openstackCurrent chairs: alaski mriedem21:12
mriedemoh snap21:12
mriedem#help need help with cell0 patches21:13
mriedem#action dansmith and alaski to talk about grenade plan21:13
mriedemis that how that works?21:13
alaski*shrugs*21:13
mriedem:)21:13
melwittsomething I realized while I was working on mq switching yesterday is that there is need for an up call from a cell for the consoleauth api. but, since that's on the road to being deprecated, I'm not sure if we might be able to punt on it21:13
alaskithat would be nice if so21:14
alaskiwhat is it calling up for?21:14
melwittIIUC, we don't store the transport url for the api cell in the database and we would need to for up calls21:14
melwittconsole token auth stuff21:14
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alaskiis that assuming the auth service is at the API level?21:15
melwittit is21:15
melwittnova-consoleauth21:15
alaskiokay. we should sync with PaulMurray. he was working on something so that the console service could live in a cell21:16
melwittthere is also nova-console which is a xen-specific thing but I couldn't find much about it and don't find any handling of it in cells v121:16
melwitta-ha, okay21:16
melwittI saw his bp and notes from the midcycle about deprecating consoleauth service and storing tokens in the nova db21:17
melwittand auth would be a db query from what I understand21:17
alaskiyeah. we discussed which db that should be in and landed on the cell db21:17
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alaskiand he was working on, or added, a change so that console queries include the instance uuid so they can be directed to a cell21:18
alaskiAPI queries21:18
alaskijust so everyone is aware I'm going to propose cutting back the meetings to bi-weekly after the freeze21:20
alaskias we've done in the past21:20
alaskihonestly we may not even need it that often21:20
alaskiunless we want to argue about mascots21:21
alaskianyone have a topic?21:21
alaskicool21:21
dansmithmascots?21:21
alaskithanks all!21:21
dansmithoh, fine21:21
alaskiI can hold off21:22
alaskiI know you really want to discuss it21:22
mriedemthere is nothing to discuss21:22
mriedemit's done21:22
alaski:)21:22
alaski#endmeeting21:22
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