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jroll#startmeeting ironic17:00
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openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 15 17:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
vdroko/17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
devanandao/17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'17:00
mariojvo/17:00
NobodyCamo/17:00
jrollhey everyone17:00
jlvillalo/17:00
lucasagomeso/17:00
mjturek1o/17:00
blakeco/17:00
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jrollas always, the agenda is here:17:00
jroll#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting17:00
rpiosoo/17:00
Madasio/17:00
alinebo/17:01
jrollpretty light today, this should be quick17:01
jroll:)17:01
NobodyCam:)17:01
jroll#topic announcements and reminders17:01
dtantsuro/17:01
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rlooo/17:01
jrollso we got 6.1.0 release last week with a TON of features17:01
jrollthanks so much to everyone for your hard work on that17:01
lucasagomesw00t17:01
jroll#link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic/newton.html#id217:01
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rlooyay17:01
jrollrelease notes are there if you want to see just how much :)17:01
sambettso/17:02
jrollreminder that non-client library final release is next week - if we need something in ironic-lib let's get that done now17:02
devanandawoot!17:02
jrollditto for client final releases the following week17:02
jrollanyone have anything else for announcement/reminders?17:03
dtantsura reminder: the libraries and clients deadlines are coming soon, please review their changes (especially OSC commands in ironicclient)17:03
dtantsurhmm, you beat me to it, right?17:03
jroll:D17:03
jroll++ for osc changes though17:03
jroll#link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html17:03
lucasagomesjroll, there's a patch to make parse_root_device_hints() work with operators in ironic-lib, currently IPA because I need to finish the IPA bits17:03
jroll(for the full schedule)17:03
lucasagomesbut yeah, will be available for review this week17:03
jrolllucasagomes: got it, thanks17:04
rloojroll: do we want to try for the deadlines in the beginning of the week?17:04
JayFI will also try to get a patch up for ironic-lib to add dev docs, mainly so we can have dev docs for Metrics, but I don't think that'd neccessarily need to be released17:04
jrollrloo: yes, the earlier the better17:04
rloojroll: cuz they're always 'the week of...'17:04
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jrollrloo: I want to get the release requests submitted on the wednesday of those weeks17:05
jrollmaybe tuesday17:05
jrollthe note on the schedule says, "All deadlines are generally the Thursday of the week on which they are noted above"17:05
rloojroll: ok, i'll look forward to your 'fix up reno' patch for the client ;)17:05
jrollrloo: yay :(17:05
* jroll makes a note to do that17:05
davidlenwello/17:05
dtantsurheh, it's still better than trying to collect everything in the wiki in the end of the cycle17:06
dtantsur:)17:06
jroll+117:06
jrollanything else here?17:06
TheJuliao/ (sorry, was on a phone call)17:06
jroll#topic subteam status reports17:07
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jrollas always, those are here:17:07
jroll#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard17:07
jrollstarts at line 80 this time17:07
jrollsome of those things are done or just have a couple follow up patches \o/17:07
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* jroll gives folks a few minutes to review/update those17:08
devanandajroll: I'd like to get the api-ref update for api v1.22 landed. I had hoped for that to be in 6.1, but we should at least get the website up to date17:08
jrolldevananda: ditto17:08
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rloojroll: wrt multiple compute hosts -- do we (you) need to explain how that was solved?17:08
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jrollrloo: I've explained it in the mailing list and the commit message for the change, I'd rather not do it again :)17:09
rloojroll: oh, i missed the email (sorry, am behind). thx.17:09
jrollrloo: the email was after nova midcycle a few weeks ago17:09
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rloojroll: oh, right. so long ago i had forgotten :)17:09
jroll:D17:10
rloosoftware metrics is almost done?17:10
jrollyep17:11
* jroll made a note17:11
dtantsura small reminder: please do not leave bugs in "Fix Committed" state17:11
jrolldtantsur: so, you want to freeze at normal FF time? do we think that will actually help get more bugs done?17:12
JayFrloo: I'd call it "done" sans the dev docs17:12
dtantsurin this state a bug is not considered closed, and there is no longer a procedure to move such bugs to "released" state17:12
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rloodtantsur: what do you mean? we need to update the bugs after they are fixed?17:12
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rloodtantsur: what should we do? (or is it the release manager that should do whatever?)17:12
dtantsurrloo, gerrit does the right thing (use Fix Released), but I've seen a couple of folks putting bugs in Fix Committed17:12
dtantsurthe latter does not mean "closed", and it requires manual fixing17:13
rloodtantsur: Fix Released == an ironic release?17:13
dtantsurFix Released = Closed17:13
dtantsurtreat it this way :)17:13
jroll++17:13
rloodtantsur: OH. ok. I thought it was only when the release happened.17:13
dtantsurjroll, not sure about normal FF time, but maybe allocate a some time to clean it up17:13
JayFrloo: it used to be "Fix Committed -> software released -> Fix Released" but then we moved to just "Fix Released ~= Closed"17:13
dtantsurrloo, it used to be the case, it's no longer though17:13
dtantsuryes, as JayF explained17:14
rloowhy don't we just get rid of fixed release then?17:14
rlooor have some bot change fix commited to fix released?17:14
jrolldtantsur: there's only four weeks between FF and final release, so "extra time" seems like FF time17:14
vdrokI thought that they can just be moved them from fix committed to fix released?17:14
dtantsurrloo, we can't get rid of stuff built into launchpad :)17:14
lucasagomesnot sure we can, it's launchpad17:14
dtantsurit does not happen too often though, I'm just reminding the folks :)17:15
* JayF waits for someone to perk up and sell us on storyboard ;)17:15
rloodtantsur: it just seems to be one extra manual thing that we humans shouldn't need to remember to do.17:15
dtantsurJayF, the last time I tried it, it was not ready yet (politely speaking). but it was some time ago17:15
JayFrloo: it's only "manual" if you close the bug manually. Gerrit will automatically put it in Fix Released if you tag everything right.17:15
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JayFrloo: this is just if you go to manually change the status of a bug, make sure to go all the way to "Fix Released"17:16
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* rloo thinks we ask too much of our developers17:16
dtantsurjroll, maybe then FF, yes. with exceptions, as usual, but still17:16
jrolldtantsur: yeah, I'll think about it, it's close to time to start saying 'yes' or 'no' to features anyway17:16
dtantsuryeah, it's pretty clear (IMO) which priorities land and which don't17:17
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dtantsurwe still can be pretty liberal towards vendor changes (for those vendors who have CI working ;)17:17
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jrolldtantsur: yeah, I think so. went through trello this morning so I have a good idea of where we're aty17:17
jrollat*17:17
dtantsuryep17:18
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jrollanyone else have subteam question things or should I open up the floor?17:18
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jroll#topic open discussion17:19
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jlvillalI was just wondering when we start working on the Barcelona Summit sessions?17:19
jlvillalOr the schedule for them.17:19
jrollso just wanted to point out this cinder thread about deprecation process and driver removal for third party CI:17:20
jlvillalAnd what we will discuss17:20
jroll#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/101428.html17:20
JayFI suspect we might want to wait until the talks for summit are accepted/rejected17:20
jrollworth a read, it's relevant to us. I still am taking it all in17:20
jrolljlvillal: I haven't heard much on it yet17:20
JayFas that might help decide who ends up in barcelona and who doesn't :(17:20
jrollI'd assume we'll chat about it in september17:20
jrollJayF: I don't think "who is there" really changes much about what we need to discuss in person :)17:21
jlvillalOkay, thank you.17:21
vdrokthe accepted talks will be known in the beginning of september iirc?17:21
JayFjroll: eh, we tend to not put topics on the agenda unless someone will champion it though17:21
* jlvillal does wonder when they will announce the accepted summit talks17:21
jrollJayF: sure, I guess I think we have enough big things to get through17:21
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dtantsurDriver composition: episode 4 (or 5?)  :D17:23
jrollanything else folks want to talk about?17:23
* dtantsur hopes it no longer needs a discussion though17:23
jrollheh17:23
dtantsurthis last for so long that Disney soon will buy rights on it from me :D17:24
jrollyay for quick meetings, thanks everyone :)17:24
NobodyCamthank you all17:24
jrolldtantsur: LOL17:24
jroll#endmeeting17:24
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TheJuliadtantsur: lol17:24
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jrollfungi: fyi, looks like the topic is stuck here when you have a moment ^^17:24
* jroll /cs topic OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings17:25
fungijroll: thanks, fixing now17:25
jrollty17:25
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flwang1#startmeeting zaqar18:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 15 18:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flwang1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'zaqar'18:00
flwang1#topic  roll call18:00
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flwang1anybody around?18:00
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flwang1#endmeeting18:16
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