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| mat128 | o/ | 17:00 |
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| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| jroll | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 29 17:00:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| jroll | hey everyone | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
| milan | o/ | 17:00 |
| lucasagomes | hi o/ | 17:00 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
| mat128 | o/ | 17:00 |
| mari0jv | o/ | 17:01 |
| * mat128 thought he was late by a few seconds | 17:01 | |
| rloo | o/ | 17:01 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | as always, agenda here: | 17:01 |
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| jroll | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
| xhku | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:01 |
| jroll | #topic announcements and reminders | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements and reminders (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:01 | |
| jroll | so a few things here | 17:02 |
| jroll | this is the feature freeze week for most of openstack, and where we start to reject large/risky features (we don't block all features always at FF time) | 17:02 |
| jroll | it's also client freeze, so we need to finish up ironicclient features | 17:02 |
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| devananda | o/ | 17:03 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:03 |
| wajdi | o/ | 17:03 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:03 |
| rloo | jroll: so we also follow feature freeze schedule? | 17:03 |
| jroll | so please review the OSC patches, let's get those in, I'd like to talk more in open discussion about what we want to push to ocata, if we have time | 17:03 |
| jroll | rloo: not necessarily, but I've been saying for weeks we should start slowing down this week | 17:03 |
| rloo | jroll: ok, just that feature freeze AND client in same week is too much i think | 17:04 |
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| jroll | rloo: well, that's the normal schedule for openstack :) | 17:04 |
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| rloo | jroll: right, but i thought we didn't follow it strictly. i need to reread the spec. | 17:05 |
| rloo | jroll: anyway, don't mind me :) | 17:05 |
| jroll | rloo: we don't, we just arbitrarily choose a date to stop being crazy :) | 17:05 |
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| rloo | jroll: ok, then let's pick next week for feature freeze. too crazy for both to be this week. | 17:05 |
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| * dtantsur ++ for next week instead | 17:06 | |
| jroll | rloo: I think we need to start thinking about what to give the boot this week, but okay | 17:06 |
| rloo | jroll: i'm fine if you/we want to think about what to punt, but i'm concerned that if feature freeze is this week, there will be too many patches that 'need to be reviewed' | 17:06 |
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| devananda | I think of it this way: we need to complete the things that are close to completion, and postpone (for a couple weeks) the things that are not. | 17:07 |
| devananda | rloo: there has been a very short list of things that jroll has been asking us all to look at, for several weeks now | 17:07 |
| devananda | this isn't news | 17:07 |
| rloo | devananda: right, but we can complete ironic stuff after this week. we cannot do so for client. | 17:08 |
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| jroll | let me put it a third way: "let's think about what to freeze" doesn't mean "let's rush everything in", it means "let's decide what won't make it" | 17:08 |
| devananda | jroll: ++ | 17:09 |
| rloo | jroll: I'm good with that! | 17:09 |
| mat128 | +1 | 17:09 |
| rloo | jroll: sorry, is that what we are going to discuss in today's meeting? like now? | 17:09 |
| jroll | rloo: not now. I'd like to start the conversation in open discussion if we have time | 17:09 |
| rloo | jroll: ok, thx for clarifying | 17:10 |
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| jroll | so one more announcement, next monday is a US holiday | 17:10 |
| jroll | so I won't be here for the meeting, does someone else want to run it or do we prefer to skip it? | 17:10 |
| rloo | also canadian holiday. i won't be here either | 17:10 |
| mat128 | it's also a Canadian holiday | 17:11 |
| mat128 | ^ | 17:11 |
| devananda | +1 skip | 17:11 |
| * jlvillal looks at the European folks... | 17:11 | |
| lucasagomes | I will be around if there's a meeting | 17:11 |
| lucasagomes | I can run if there's enough people | 17:11 |
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| dtantsur | ditto, I'll be here | 17:11 |
| jroll | okay, let's plan on having it and lucasagomes can shut it down quickly if there aren't enough people | 17:12 |
| * lucasagomes adds to his todo | 17:12 | |
| jroll | any other announcements/reminders? | 17:12 |
| devananda | fyi, I'm dealing with a case of conference crud AND moving this week, so I will have limited availability. going to focus on reviews and emails, since those are asynchronous, and resting when I can. | 17:12 |
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| jroll | good to know, sorry to hear :( | 17:13 |
| jroll | #topic subteam status reports | 17:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam status reports (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:14 | |
| jroll | those are here, starting with line 93: | 17:14 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:14 |
| jroll | the nova console patch was -2'd again this morning, the un -2 was by mistake | 17:14 |
| rloo | jroll: yes, so much for dashing our hopes | 17:15 |
| rloo | dtantsur: what's the critical bug? | 17:15 |
| jroll | heh | 17:15 |
| JayF | jroll: should we start cleaning up things off that which aren't landing in newton? like rescue? | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I suspect we haven't close the previous one, lemme check | 17:15 |
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| jroll | JayF: eh, I don't think it's a big deal to have them and have no updates | 17:15 |
| JayF | okie dokie | 17:16 |
| jroll | they'll probably jump back on for ocata | 17:16 |
| rloo | is there more to be done wrt keystone policy support? | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I can't find it; maybe my script derped.. | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | or wait, maybe another project | 17:16 |
| jroll | rloo: there was a docs patch, it may have landed last week though. devananda ? | 17:16 |
| JayF | rloo: I think so | 17:17 |
| rloo | thx mystery person :) | 17:17 |
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| lucasagomes | rloo, I think there are docs | 17:17 |
| JayF | let me find the patch | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | rloo, oh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-python-agent/+bug/1611528 | 17:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1611528 in ironic-python-agent "IPA for stable/liberty unit tests fail with AssertionError: InspectionError not raised by extension_manager" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to John L. Villalovos (happycamp) | 17:17 |
| JayF | oh, instance secrets stuff merged \o/ | 17:17 |
| JayF | and the docs | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, we got it fixed, right? | 17:17 |
| JayF | I think keystone policy is done!!! | 17:17 |
| jroll | oh neat | 17:17 |
| jroll | \o/ | 17:17 |
| JayF | wooo hooo ty gj devananda | 17:17 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: It has been merged | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | awesome, closing | 17:17 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, yay | 17:17 |
| rloo | JayF: there's one more patch for keystone policy support according to mystery person: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353696/ | 17:18 |
| mat128 | rloo: I think that's deva | 17:18 |
| rloo | mat128: yeah, i just looked at the colours/names :) | 17:18 |
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| jroll | I don't think that's realted to policy | 17:18 |
| JayF | It's kinda more related to new agent api | 17:18 |
| devananda | rloo: keystone policy docs patch landed. there are two more patches I'd like to land, though | 17:18 |
| jroll | right | 17:19 |
| devananda | rloo: one for /heartbeat, and one for unit tests, but I'm having trouble getting this one not to break other tests | 17:19 |
| JayF | devananda: I'd call the /heartbeat one more related to agent api promotion tbh | 17:19 |
| devananda | JayF: fair | 17:19 |
| rloo | devananda: ok, good to know. doesn't matter where we categorize /heartbeat one, just make sure it is linked to appropriate bug/rfe | 17:19 |
| devananda | in which case, there's only one left re: policy: https://review.openstack.org/350177 | 17:19 |
| jroll | ++, I'd like to get that one done | 17:20 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, added myself to it, will take a look once it's not WIP anymore | 17:20 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: if you have time / brain power, please look at it now. I've WIP'd it only because I know it's not safe to land yet | 17:21 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ack, unittests for py3+ is failing tho (I will look afte rthe meeting) | 17:21 |
| mat128 | I'd like the upper-constraints stuff to land before cutting final tags, so official ramdisks are built correctly (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1616554+project:openstack/ironic-python-agent) | 17:22 |
| mat128 | dtantsur mentioned the initial bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-python-agent/+bug/1611528) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1611528 in ironic-python-agent "IPA for stable/liberty unit tests fail with AssertionError: InspectionError not raised by extension_manager" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to John L. Villalovos (happycamp) | 17:22 |
| jroll | yeah, we need to fix that | 17:22 |
| mat128 | it's only missing eyes on the master change | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 17:22 |
| jroll | rloo: ^ there's your critical bug fix | 17:22 |
| jroll | anything else on subteam reports? | 17:23 |
| rloo | jroll: thx :) | 17:23 |
| jlvillal | mat128: Thanks for doing a pre-backport to mitaka and liberty to show that it works :) | 17:23 |
| mat128 | :D | 17:23 |
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| jroll | alright let's keep rolling | 17:24 |
| jroll | #topic summit session allocations | 17:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit session allocations (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:24 | |
| jroll | there's a few session ideas on the pad: | 17:24 |
| jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-ocata-summit | 17:24 |
| jroll | last week we talked about 3/4 fishbowl/workroom | 17:24 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, how many session we have again ? | 17:25 |
| lucasagomes | oh ok | 17:25 |
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| jroll | we need to decide how many to ask for :) | 17:25 |
| jroll | we did 5/5 last time, need to do less this time (less slots, more teams) | 17:25 |
| rloo | jlvillal: for the qa/gate stuff, that is ok as a workroom? | 17:25 |
| jlvillal | rloo: Yep. Best as a work room. | 17:25 |
| jlvillal | Or happy to do it as a find an empty spot somewhere to do it, if we get tight. We did that last time on Grenade stuff. | 17:26 |
| rloo | anything involving neutron needs a fishbowl i think :) | 17:26 |
| jroll | indeed | 17:26 |
| jroll | keep in mind none of these are for sure | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | heh | 17:26 |
| JayF | Will we need to talk about driver comp or boot from volume? I know both have specs that are very close | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | noooooooooooooo | 17:27 |
| jroll | LOL | 17:27 |
| JayF | but I think all the answers are done already for those? | 17:27 |
| JayF | lol | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | I man, boot from volume - maybe | 17:27 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i think that if we want nova folks wrt deployment steps, it might be a fishbowl too, not sure. | 17:27 |
| JayF | dtantsur: I think we properly interpreted your cry of no :P | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | JayF, I think so too :D | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | rloo, yes, maybe.. actually we have 2 questions there: how we do it (a workroom) and how to interact with nova (fishbowl) | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | but we don't have that much space, so.... | 17:28 |
| devananda | one thing to keep in mind - ocata is going to be a short cycle | 17:28 |
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| dtantsur | true | 17:28 |
| * devananda puts his former-TC-hat on | 17:28 | |
| jroll | yep | 17:28 |
| devananda | projects are encouraged to use the short cycle to focus on stabilization and internal / core work | 17:28 |
| devananda | rather than major new features that require design efforts | 17:28 |
| * devananda takes that hat off | 17:28 | |
| dtantsur | so, no driver comp? :) | 17:28 |
| JayF | driver comp sounds like core work | 17:29 |
| jroll | devananda: well, nobody has come out and officially encouraged that :) | 17:29 |
| JayF | dtantsur: I mean, driver comp sounds like /exactly/ that | 17:29 |
| mat128 | ^+1 | 17:29 |
| jlvillal | If anyone has presentations and want to run a session. Please note conflict times. | 17:29 |
| * jroll has only seen that encouragement in hallway track | 17:29 | |
| devananda | jroll: i'm surprised to hear that. because I've been seeing folks recommending that for a while. | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | heh, ok, ok, I gotta get some work done :) | 17:29 |
| jroll | jlvillal: don't worry, I'll take care of those :) | 17:29 |
| rloo | driver comp stuff has already started, design has been done, right dtantsur? i think it is good to go | 17:29 |
| jlvillal | okay :) | 17:29 |
| JayF | devananda: do you have specific stuff in mind when you say that? | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | rloo, yes, I'm half-kidding | 17:29 |
| devananda | dtantsur: driver comp is internal work, IMO | 17:29 |
| JayF | devananda: I'm just curious, I feel like we do a decent job of promoting internal work in all cycles :) | 17:29 |
| jroll | devananda: I've seen 1) lots of support for stabilization cycles, and 2) lots of people saying ocata is a good candidate, but not 3) TC folks recommending projects do such a thing | 17:30 |
| vdrok | yeah, it's deployment steps that need to wait I think as there is no design yet | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | I'm pretty sure I want to finish THAT asap | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | deployment steps, yeah... though our RAID approach worries me a lot | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | let's at least discuss if we even want such a thing | 17:30 |
| jroll | devananda: nor have I seen 4) us discuss whether we should have ocata be a stablization cycle (yet) | 17:30 |
| mat128 | jroll: I think it's always a good idea to promote internal improvement, otherwise we won't be able to deliver features as quickly down the road | 17:30 |
| devananda | jroll: I see. thanks. perhaps its time they say that more loudly, then | 17:30 |
| rloo | so there are 5 suggestions here. we don't know if any of these will happen. how many other ideas do we think will be proposed/we want to have at the summit?' | 17:30 |
| rloo | is 3/3 enough then? | 17:30 |
| jroll | mat128: I'm not disagreeing with the concept :) | 17:30 |
| * dtantsur rephrases his proposal | 17:31 | |
| vdrok | looking at the current list 3 fishbowls should be enough | 17:31 |
| devananda | JayF: I think we strike a balance between feature work and core work. like every project does. | 17:31 |
| jroll | rloo: I suspect we aren't even close to "all proposals in" yet | 17:31 |
| jroll | I think I'm okay with 3/3, 3/4 would be nice | 17:31 |
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| * mat128 digs his "write a spec for just-in-time RAID configuration" todo item from the midcycle | 17:32 | |
| JayF | devananda: I'm just saying; I'm not opposed to an idea of focusing on internal stuff; but I don't see it as being useful unless we have a list of specific internal/stabilization things we want to work on | 17:32 |
| rloo | jroll: yeah, i think you're right, but in light of the discussion above wrt new features/design, etc etc... let's try to focus on stuff that is *doable* in ocata | 17:32 |
| jroll | rloo: +1 | 17:32 |
| rloo | jroll: how are we going to decide 3/3 or 3/4 or x/y? | 17:33 |
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| lucasagomes | rloo, +1 I think the design sessions should be about things that are possible to accompilish in that cycle | 17:33 |
| jroll | rloo: like this | 17:33 |
| lucasagomes | or at least parts of it | 17:33 |
| jroll | is anyone opposed to asking for 3/3 and a friday afternoon meetup? | 17:33 |
| jlvillal | Should we add a "discuss project priorities" session? | 17:33 |
| rloo | jlvillal: oh yeah. don't we typically have some sort of recap and priorities thing? | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal++ the most important session | 17:33 |
| * jroll added it | 17:34 | |
| jlvillal | heh | 17:34 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, it's fine to me | 17:34 |
| jroll | is anyone opposed to asking for 3/3 and a friday afternoon meetup? | 17:34 |
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| jroll | lucasagomes: thanks for answering :) | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | do we really need this format meetup? | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | * formal | 17:35 |
| vdrok | I'm not opposed, but when do we need to decide? Maybe something else will be added | 17:35 |
| vdrok | is there some date set for this? | 17:35 |
| rloo | dtantsur: last summit, you had an inspector session. do you think you want one for ocata? | 17:35 |
| devananda | JayF: my point is, it's a shorter cycle. let's use the design summit for ironing out the details of things we can get done in that time and polishing ironic. I odn't have a specific list yet, but that's what we're talking about now :) | 17:35 |
| jroll | dtantsur: if nothing else, for space, I've found them useful | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | no opposition here | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | rloo, oh, inspector... lemme think | 17:35 |
| jroll | vdrok: need to decide now, wednesday is the deadline | 17:35 |
| jroll | (as we said last meeting) | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I'd say no. We'll probably spend the whole Ocata implementing HA as agreed previously. milan? | 17:36 |
| milan | dtantsur, yeah | 17:36 |
| milan | unless we land the state patch, all is pending | 17:36 |
| jroll | I'm going to timebox this 3 minutes from now, so if you oppose 3/3 and half day meetup speak now please :) | 17:36 |
| rloo | jroll, any need to discuss with nova, the dynamic <whatever, i forgot what it is called>, resource classes, etc? | 17:36 |
| jroll | rloo: I don't think so right now, if there is we can steal a nova session | 17:37 |
| JayF | rloo: I think we nailed most of that during the mid-cycle | 17:37 |
| jroll | yeah, it's pretty solid | 17:37 |
| jroll | just needs effort :) | 17:37 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, resource classes? | 17:37 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: you know, that new node.resource_class thingy | 17:37 |
| rloo | and/or a fishbowl to describe how all that is going to work. but let's just document it. | 17:38 |
| milan | dtantsur, rloo but I've just added #6 to see if people +1 and/or add more topics, but cool not having one | 17:38 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, yeah, I'd like it to see the spec merged in nova first. Not sure a session on it, I think we should just keep reviewing the spec and making sure it covers our use case | 17:38 |
| rloo | milan: just land it :) | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | jroll, I'd ask for 3/4 and I don't care about the meetup too much | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | but if people are fine with 3/3, I'm fine too | 17:39 |
| milan | rloo, roger that :) | 17:39 |
| jroll | yeah, trying to be a good citizen for the additional projects and such | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | we're already down from 5/5, right? :) | 17:39 |
| rloo | +1 (reason for 3/3) | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | anyway, they are free to refuse us | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | what I'd avoid is to have a big mess of undiscussed stuff on Friday evening | 17:40 |
| jroll | sure | 17:40 |
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| * rloo wonders how useful the meeting would be, on a fri aft | 17:40 | |
| rloo | s/meeting/meet up/ | 17:41 |
| jroll | okay, I'm going to ask for 3/4 and say we're also fine with 3/3 | 17:41 |
| jroll | rloo: keep in mind it's only 4 day summit | 17:41 |
| jroll | let's move on | 17:41 |
| jroll | I'm bumping this up from open discussion, vdrok in the future please use the 'discussion' topic, not open discussino :) | 17:41 |
| jroll | #topic client and libraries deprecation policy - is it the same as for ironic itself? | 17:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "client and libraries deprecation policy - is it the same as for ironic itself? (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:42 | |
| vdrok | oops, I already forgot about that :) | 17:42 |
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| vdrok | so it should be pretty short | 17:42 |
| rloo | i had assumed that the clients also followed the same deprecation policy | 17:42 |
| JayF | Me too | 17:42 |
| rloo | and am assuming osc does too | 17:42 |
| vdrok | do we need to explicitly list the tag for all our libs/client in the governance? | 17:42 |
| jroll | ditto here | 17:43 |
| jroll | I'm not sure people care too much about tags on clients | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | ++ for a tag, ++ for following the usual policy | 17:43 |
| jroll | we also need upgrade testing to put a tag there :) | 17:43 |
| jroll | which is odd in a client (I have no clue what that would look like) | 17:43 |
| devananda | let me dig for references for a minute, but I believe client and libs follow a different deprecation policy than servers, actually | 17:43 |
| devananda | because users / application developers upgrade libraries very differently than how operators upgrade services | 17:44 |
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| jroll | mmm, yeah, could be | 17:45 |
| vdrok | hm ,yeah, It uses an automated test to verify that configuration files are forward-compatible from release to release, it seems like we should not do it for libs | 17:45 |
| devananda | also to note, the assert-follows-standard-deprecation tag only applies to services | 17:46 |
| devananda | https://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_follows-standard-deprecation.html#requirements | 17:46 |
| jroll | vdrok: is your question about if we should have the tag or follow the policy? | 17:46 |
| vdrok | jroll: my question is, what this policy is | 17:46 |
| devananda | we can't tag the client or lib with that tag | 17:46 |
| vdrok | the governance was the first place I went to | 17:46 |
| jroll | ah | 17:47 |
| rloo | i don't think we need to tag the library. whatever uses the library, is the thing that should be tagged i think | 17:47 |
| jroll | yeah, we should follow the standard openstack guidelines, whatever those are | 17:47 |
| vdrok | and there is troveclient that has the tag for some reason | 17:47 |
| devananda | here's a thing to think about, wrt deprecation policy of the client | 17:47 |
| jroll | devananda: can I make an action item for you to find out what that is? | 17:48 |
| devananda | jroll: sure | 17:48 |
| jroll | thanks | 17:48 |
| devananda | so, imagine I'm running an old version of hte service, and you download the current client with "pip install python-ironicclient" and it doesn't work | 17:48 |
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| jroll | right right, we need to support older services, I agree | 17:49 |
| devananda | yea. so, I know oslo folks had this discussion a while back | 17:49 |
| devananda | I will try to find the docs on that, or an email from the archive | 17:49 |
| jroll | yep | 17:49 |
| jroll | sounds good, anyone have more questions on this topic? | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | so we have two things that we can deprecate: support for API and client features themselves, right? | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | the first one is harder to deprecate | 17:50 |
| devananda | dtantsur: also, API interfaces in the client or library APIs | 17:51 |
| vdrok | it's going to be a lot of deprecated stuff to remove from client in O, so I wondered how long do we wait and what else do we do, like bumping major versions etc | 17:51 |
| jroll | vdrok: what is up for removal in O? | 17:51 |
| devananda | vdrok: do you have a list of the things to remove? | 17:51 |
| mat128 | vdrok: you can still talk to an icehouse nova with "pip install python-novaclient" | 17:51 |
| vdrok | nope, off the top of my head some options and commands from osc | 17:52 |
| vdrok | like baremetal create/delete | 17:52 |
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| devananda | mat128: indeed. and I will want to be able to continue talking to a Kilo Ironic service with our current client libs. | 17:52 |
| rloo | baremetal create (the one that did a baremetal node create), baremetal delete and baremetal list I think | 17:53 |
| vdrok | also we can deprecate HTTPClient at some point when we fully switch to keystoneauth sessions | 17:53 |
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| devananda | vdrok: umm. if we remove things from the osc "baremetal" cli, we're likely to immediately break downstream users who have shell scripts that depend on them | 17:53 |
| mat128 | devananda: agree, I was just illustrating the point | 17:53 |
| devananda | mat128: good illustration :) | 17:53 |
| vdrok | devananda: yeah, but there are warnings and stuff | 17:53 |
| jroll | command line options/commands/etc are fine to remove with a reasonable deprecation period imo | 17:53 |
| mat128 | vdrok: didnt see any last time | 17:54 |
| rloo | i think it is worth asking osc, since it is a plugin to osc | 17:54 |
| rloo | i thought osc just deprecated some commands too | 17:54 |
| vdrok | mat128: hm - https://github.com/openstack/python-ironicclient/blob/master/ironicclient/osc/v1/baremetal_create.py | 17:54 |
| * jroll thought we already asked them about these things | 17:54 | |
| vdrok | they are there tho | 17:54 |
| mat128 | vdrok: I thought you said "I get warnings and stuff when talking to icehouse nova using latest-and-greatest novaclient" | 17:55 |
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| vdrok | mat128: ah, no, was talking about osc :) | 17:55 |
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| mat128 | https://github.com/openstack/python-ironicclient/blob/master/ironicclient/osc/v1/baremetal_create.py#L38 | 17:55 |
| mat128 | so in the P cycle we wont be able to create new nodes? | 17:55 |
| mat128 | or that simply changed names? | 17:55 |
| jroll | it's 'baremetal node create' vs 'baremetal create' | 17:55 |
| vdrok | yup | 17:55 |
| jroll | s/vs/replaces/ | 17:55 |
| jroll | I'm going to cut this off because we're getting into details now | 17:56 |
| rloo | oh, osc deprecated some stuff and did a major version bump | 17:56 |
| jroll | devananda is going to find policies for us | 17:56 |
| vdrok | thanks devananda :) | 17:56 |
| jroll | #topic open discussion | 17:56 |
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| jroll | 3.5 minutes, anyone have anything? | 17:56 |
| rloo | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/102031.html osc release | 17:56 |
| vdrok | a request to review the portgroups things when we are done with client :) | 17:57 |
| devananda | one quick announcement / request | 17:57 |
| rloo | vdrok: will any of the portgroup stuff change as a result of (if) there is a discussion at summit? | 17:57 |
| devananda | I did some hacking on a new review dashboard | 17:57 |
| devananda | #link http://goo.gl/02QBkA | 17:57 |
| devananda | I haven't proposed it to replace the current official dashboard yet, so I'd like feedback on if you think it should | 17:58 |
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| vdrok | rloo: the one thing that is proposed for the summit about dynamic portgroups is more like an enhancement of what is proposed now | 17:58 |
| jroll | nice \o/ | 17:58 |
| * dtantsur found gertty dashboards too | 17:58 | |
| devananda | also, if you use gertty, I've pasted a couple gertty dashboards that are similar to this one | 17:58 |
| jroll | at first glance, looks nice | 17:58 |
| devananda | http://paste.openstack.org/show/am3tT9JmEeUu6t81jtrx/ | 17:58 |
| vdrok | rloo: just adding more stuff, but no big changes on ironic side | 17:58 |
| * milan wanted to get opinions about landing Inspector state patch before FF https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348943/ | 17:58 | |
| dtantsur | yay, gertty | 17:58 |
| rloo | vdrok: thx, good to know | 17:58 |
| lucasagomes | looks nice | 17:58 |
| jroll | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/am3tT9JmEeUu6t81jtrx/ | 17:59 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: nice :) | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | devananda: I like :) | 17:59 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: You can do some of that in gertty too. Custom searches. Not sure about the 'foreach' thing | 17:59 |
| devananda | gertty doesn't support some of the queries in that new dashboard yet | 17:59 |
| devananda | but I realy like having a gertty page for "stable backports" for all ironic projects | 17:59 |
| rloo | devananda: nice. could you maybe indicate what 'Recently' Proposed is? x days? | 17:59 |
| devananda | rloo: 1 week. | 17:59 |
| jlvillal | +1 on looks good at first glance | 18:00 |
| rloo | devananda: and what's a 'small thing'? | 18:00 |
| devananda | rloo: < 25 LOC | 18:00 |
| jroll | okay, we're at time | 18:00 |
| jroll | back to channel! | 18:00 |
| jroll | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 18:00:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-08-29-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-08-29-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-08-29-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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