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| SridarK_ | Hi FWaaS folks | 04:00 |
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| njohnston | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 31 04:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:00 |
| njohnston | Hi everyone! | 04:00 |
| yushiro | Hi all! | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #chair SridarK_ xgerman yushiro | 04:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK_ njohnston xgerman yushiro | 04:00 |
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| yushiro | njohnston: thanks | 04:00 |
| SridarK_ | Hi All - we can try to run thru quickly as we are almost there | 04:00 |
| njohnston | SridarK_: The floor is yours. | 04:01 |
| SridarK_ | firstly thanks to everyone to pull together to get a whole hunk of things merged | 04:01 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: thx | 04:01 |
| SridarK_ | #topic FWaaS v2 - L3 Agent extension refactor | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 - L3 Agent extension refactor (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:02 | |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: pls go ahead | 04:02 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355576/ FWaaS L3 agent patch | 04:02 |
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| njohnston | So here is what we have been working on - mainly SridarK this evening | 04:03 |
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| njohnston | with much support from chandanc_ during the day | 04:03 |
| njohnston | At this point, we have determined that the L3 agent is loading the FWaaS extension | 04:03 |
| chandanc_ | +1 | 04:03 |
| SridarK_ | +1 | 04:03 |
| SridarK_ | i can see the __init__ of the right class | 04:03 |
| SridarK_ | that is greate | 04:04 |
| SridarK_ | *great | 04:04 |
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| njohnston | But the FWaaS agent extension is not receiving the firewall rule and firewall group updates | 04:04 |
| njohnston | After going back to the drawing board, we figured out that the reason for this is because there were not specific mechanisms set aside to forward them from the L3 agent | 04:04 |
| njohnston | Previously we didn't need to worry about this; because FWaaS managed to be both ancestor and descendant L3NATagent class so the FWaaS code was in charge and was listening to whatever we wanted. | 04:05 |
| njohnston | So the idea on the table is this | 04:06 |
| njohnston | 1. Change the RPC topic for firewall_* updates coming from neutron server to l3 agent to something like 'L3_FWAAS' | 04:06 |
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| njohnston | 2. Add code to the initialization of the FWaaS agent extension that subscribes to that RPC topic. After all it is still in the same running executable as the L3 agent, it's just a separate object. But it still has access to that facility. | 04:07 |
| njohnston | then we can see firewall_* updates coming in through that facility, but we will also see the regular router status updates coming in via the l3 agent extension | 04:08 |
| SridarK_ | +1 | 04:08 |
| njohnston | SridarK_ has been working on some POC code, as has mfranc213 | 04:08 |
| njohnston | SridarK_: Did that pretty well cover it? | 04:08 |
| SridarK_ | yes absolutely njohnston | 04:08 |
| SarathMekala | Sounds good +1 | 04:09 |
| chandanc_ | ok got it | 04:09 |
| SridarK_ | so interestingly, (1) is simple enough | 04:09 |
| SridarK_ | and (2) as well - but at some point the brain plays tricks on u :-) | 04:09 |
| chandanc_ | :) +1 | 04:09 |
| SridarK_ | thx to mfranc213 for looking over my shoulder - just need to debug this a bit | 04:10 |
| SridarK_ | chandanc_: may be we can continue as it is really late for njohnston & mfranc213 | 04:11 |
| chandanc_ | sure | 04:11 |
| SridarK_ | i think once we have this in we are good | 04:11 |
| chandanc_ | ya | 04:11 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: anything else u want to add on this | 04:12 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: also #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357503 (the neutron piece) is almost ready to get in | 04:13 |
| yushiro | njohnston, SridarK_ : on L3, are you going to implement (1)? | 04:14 |
| SridarK_ | yushiro: yes just testing that | 04:15 |
| SridarK_ | (1) as such is just changing the topic | 04:15 |
| SridarK_ | ok if nothing else lets move on | 04:16 |
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| SridarK_ | lets come back to it in open discussion | 04:16 |
| chandanc_ | SridarK_, does it me we will need change to the fwaas plugin for the RPC topic ? | 04:17 |
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| njohnston | Nope | 04:17 |
| njohnston | Shall we talk about the other patches in motion? | 04:17 |
| njohnston | #topic Other patches | 04:17 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Other patches (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:17 | |
| njohnston | OK, that's wierd, I got nothing for a long time, then my program crashed and it sent the things from when I heard nothing | 04:17 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: ok - i was awaiting a response from u | 04:17 |
| SridarK_ | and began to sense that something odd was going with ur connectivity | 04:18 |
| chandanc_ | IRC is non responsive :( | 04:18 |
| njohnston | So yes, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357503 has one +2, just waiting for another one | 04:18 |
| SridarK_ | hopefully we will get that in soon tomorrow | 04:18 |
| njohnston | and the other patch that I think is getting a lot of attention right now is yushiro's client patch | 04:19 |
| SridarK_ | yes lets get to that | 04:19 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351582/ client patch | 04:19 |
| yushiro | njohnston: Yes. I updated yesterday midnight. | 04:19 |
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| SridarK_ | yushiro: i started looking too - i think u just need the Jenkins failure to be addressed | 04:20 |
| njohnston | I agree, I was looking at the jenkins failures since that looks like the main thing in the way | 04:20 |
| yushiro | SridarK_: Yes. However, UT is not completed.. | 04:21 |
| SridarK_ | yushiro: oh ok | 04:21 |
| njohnston | ah | 04:21 |
| SridarK_ | yushiro: will u be done soon | 04:21 |
| SridarK_ | i think tomorrow is the last day | 04:21 |
| SridarK_ | Since Akihiro is looking at it - i am hoping once we are good - it will go thru quickly | 04:22 |
| yushiro | Yes, so I need help to review and UTs. | 04:22 |
| SridarK_ | could u pls be in sync with him as well | 04:22 |
| yushiro | SridarK_: yes, I'll do it after finishing this meeting. | 04:22 |
| njohnston | yushiro: Would you like help debugging the UTs, or are they still under construction? | 04:23 |
| yushiro | njohnston: hmm, I think they are debugging UTs. | 04:24 |
| njohnston | ok | 04:24 |
| yushiro | And now, I got up early and trying to fix UTs. | 04:24 |
| njohnston | The other patch that is needed is the policy.json changes, which I don't think have gotten a lot of attention. But they are the required complement to the client patch | 04:26 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355755/ policy.json patch | 04:26 |
| njohnston | I'll see if I can drum up reviews for this tomorrow | 04:26 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: yes, i think that looked to be straightfwd | 04:26 |
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| SridarK_ | i think these are the critical ones we are looking at | 04:27 |
| yushiro | OK. Thanks. | 04:27 |
| SridarK_ | for tomorrow | 04:27 |
| SridarK_ | On L2, i think a good chunk of the work is done from the FWaaS perspective | 04:28 |
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| SridarK_ | we will still need to move fwd on the neutron side patches for peaceful coexistence with SG | 04:28 |
| chandanc_ | yes | 04:28 |
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| SridarK_ | we discussed this earlier and felt it is a stretch and we would rather invest time in testing out and fixing L3 related issues | 04:29 |
| SridarK_ | rather than get the patches in and leave it disabled etc | 04:29 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: were there any other patches we needed discussion on | 04:30 |
| njohnston | No, I don't think so | 04:31 |
| SridarK_ | ok lets move on | 04:31 |
| SridarK_ | #topic Open Discussion | 04:31 |
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| SridarK_ | if there are things to discuss we can do that or we can get back to debugging | 04:31 |
| * njohnston has nothing else | 04:32 | |
| chandanc_ | +1 debugging | 04:32 |
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| SridarK_ | ok then lets call it a wrap, we can continue on openstack-fwaas | 04:32 |
| chandanc_ | sure | 04:32 |
| SridarK_ | thanks all again | 04:32 |
| njohnston | thanks all! | 04:32 |
| chandanc_ | thanks all | 04:32 |
| yushiro | thanks | 04:32 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 04:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 04:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 31 04:32:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-08-31-04.00.html | 04:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-08-31-04.00.txt | 04:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-08-31-04.00.log.html | 04:33 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 31 13:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
| claudiub | hello folks! | 13:00 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:00 |
| claudiub | anyone here? | 13:00 |
| abalutoiu | hello | 13:00 |
| Sonu_ | Hi everyone | 13:00 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi claudiub: | 13:00 |
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| claudiub | cool, we can start | 13:01 |
| itoader | hi | 13:01 |
| claudiub | #topic monasca patches | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "monasca patches (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| claudiub | ehm, got no reviews on them. :/ | 13:01 |
| sagar_nikam | oh .... | 13:01 |
| claudiub | roland was on vacation for some time, as far as i know | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | yes he was on vacation | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | let me check if he is back | 13:02 |
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| claudiub | anyways. did you guys try monasca on windows? | 13:03 |
| claudiub | any feedback on it? | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | i could not.... finding it difficult with liberty controller | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | and mitaka monasca | 13:04 |
| claudiub | i see. | 13:04 |
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| sagar_nikam | sorry .... got it confused again | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | mitaka controller with newton monasca | 13:04 |
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| claudiub | what exactly isn't working? | 13:05 |
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| sagar_nikam | getting all the 14 dependent patches | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | in right order and getting them compiled on windows | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | to generate the exe | 13:07 |
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| sagar_nikam | for me to start the agent | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | however not spent too much time on it | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | i may have missed something basic | 13:08 |
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| claudiub | gerrit typically lists the patches in the correct order | 13:09 |
| claudiub | for example, this is the base patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317919/ | 13:09 |
| claudiub | and on the right, you see from bottom to top the order of the patches. | 13:09 |
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| sagar_nikam | just sent a mail to Roland | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | asking for review | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | hopefully we can get some review comments | 13:11 |
| claudiub | yeah. but we do have to keep in mind that this week is the feature freeze. | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | oh ... | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | even for monasca ? | 13:12 |
| claudiub | for every project | 13:12 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:12 |
| claudiub | here's the release schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 13:13 |
| claudiub | next thing will be in sep 12, RC1. | 13:13 |
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| claudiub | anyways, I hope we can still get in some patches. | 13:14 |
| claudiub | moving on. | 13:14 |
| claudiub | #topic OVS vs networking-hyperv | 13:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OVS vs networking-hyperv (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:14 | |
| claudiub | soo, abalutoiu has been doing some experiments | 13:15 |
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| claudiub | mind sharing some of your results, abalutoiu? | 13:15 |
| abalutoiu | sure | 13:15 |
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| abalutoiu | so, I've been running tests to find the maximum throughput through OVS vs networking-hyperv, tests show 3.65 Gbps VM to VM over a single VXLAN tunnel on a 10 Gb NIC, while with networking-hyperv the performance was 4.95 Gbps | 13:17 |
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| abalutoiu | there is also a new OVS under development, which was also tested, and the performance was 4.80 Gbps under the same conditions | 13:18 |
| Sonu_ | Ovs dpdk will help improve that I would guess | 13:18 |
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| abalutoiu | the new OVS also includes conntrack support, that means the OVS native firewall can be used instead of the windows ACLs | 13:19 |
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| Sonu_ | Using native ovs firewall will expose a challenge of live migration | 13:20 |
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| claudiub | why? | 13:20 |
| Sonu_ | Who will build the firewall rules on the target host... | 13:21 |
| Sonu_ | Neutron will have to do. | 13:21 |
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| claudiub | yeah, neutron will have to do it. doesn't it already do this anyways? | 13:22 |
| Sonu_ | Who would intimate Nova or neutron to create ports and ovs rules on the port | 13:22 |
| Sonu_ | Cluster level live migration will be transparent to neutron and nova | 13:22 |
| Sonu_ | Unless we invoke migration through Nova migrate utility | 13:23 |
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| Sonu_ | Am I missing any point that you are seeing | 13:24 |
| claudiub | so, when you do a nova cold / live migration, nova will create the ovs ports on the destination in advance. | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | Sonu_: are you referring to MSCluster and Nova cluster driver ? | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | when you mentioned "Cluster level live migration" | 13:25 |
| claudiub | even on a failover migration, the destination node will detect a new vm and create the ovs port. | 13:26 |
| claudiub | the nova hyper-v cluster driver will detect a new vm and create its ovs port * | 13:26 |
| Sonu_ | Live migrations triggered from ms cluster I refer to | 13:26 |
| Sonu_ | VM ports must be created on br-int, who will do? | 13:27 |
| Sonu_ | Who will notify Nova to do? Once a port is created, then neutron will bind rules | 13:28 |
| claudiub | the nova hyper-v cluster driver does it. | 13:28 |
| claudiub | the nova hyper-v cluster driver creates the port. | 13:28 |
| Sonu_ | OK then I get what you are saying. | 13:28 |
| claudiub | anyways, thanks abalutoiu for the tests results. :) | 13:30 |
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| claudiub | #topic Barcelona OpenStack Summit | 13:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Barcelona OpenStack Summit (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:31 | |
| claudiub | sooo, there is only one windows specific presentation in Barcelona | 13:32 |
| Sonu_ | One more item under ovs topic | 13:33 |
| claudiub | #undo | 13:33 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x7f5bbff549d0> | 13:33 |
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| Sonu_ | I see ovs is certified for Windows 2k12 | 13:33 |
| claudiub | yep. and 2012 r2 as well | 13:33 |
| claudiub | we announced it last week. :) | 13:33 |
| Sonu_ | How can we consume the driver? | 13:34 |
| Sonu_ | Should we build the driver ourselves, will the certification be valid | 13:34 |
| claudiub | you mean OVS itself? | 13:34 |
| Sonu_ | I mean the extension driver | 13:34 |
| claudiub | you can download the installer from here: | 13:35 |
| claudiub | # Windows OVS installer: https://cloudbase.it/openvswitch/ | 13:35 |
| Sonu_ | Can we ship the extension driver alone as part of our package | 13:35 |
| Sonu_ | We don't have MSI based installation mechanics | 13:36 |
| claudiub | installing the MSI is simple, you can do so by just running: msiexec /i openvswitch-hyperv-2.5.0.msi /l*v log.txt | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: we build our nova and neutron from our downstream branch | 13:37 |
| claudiub | MSIs can be installed in unattended mode. | 13:37 |
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| sagar_nikam | hence we dont use CloudBase MSI | 13:37 |
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| claudiub | Sonu_: honestly, I don't know how to answer that question. | 13:39 |
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| claudiub | as far as I know, OVS was certified with the installer in its entirety. | 13:40 |
| Sonu_ | Yes and that's Microsoft's specification I think | 13:40 |
| claudiub | yep | 13:40 |
| Sonu_ | Once certified can we ship the extension driver with our installation | 13:41 |
| claudiub | So, I'm not sure Microsoft certification can be claimed without the installer. | 13:41 |
| claudiub | well, the installer is free anyways | 13:41 |
| Sonu_ | May be I can start a email chain to discuss this. | 13:41 |
| claudiub | sure. | 13:42 |
| Sonu_ | Thanks | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: thanks | 13:42 |
| claudiub | np. :) | 13:42 |
| claudiub | #topic Barcelona OpenStack Summit | 13:42 |
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| sagar_nikam | we hope to use OVS soon | 13:42 |
| claudiub | soo, there was only session that was accepted, out the many Windows / Hyper-V related sessions submitted | 13:43 |
| claudiub | the session is called: "What's new for Windows in OpenStack Newton" | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:43 |
| claudiub | soo, if you are going to attend the Summit, you might be interested in it. :) | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: i check with Paul Murray. he is at the summit. we discussed about this last week | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | he is coming from our team | 13:44 |
| claudiub | cool, speaking of which, are you guys going to attend? | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | to the summit | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | Sonu_: anybody from networking team attending the summit ? | 13:45 |
| Sonu_ | I might be there | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | Sonu_: cool... nice | 13:46 |
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| claudiub | cool. :) Sonu_: just FYI, there is going to be a Winstackers work session as well. So, feel free to join us. :) | 13:47 |
| Sonu_ | I will thanks. | 13:47 |
| claudiub | #topic Open discussion | 13:47 |
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| sagar_nikam | not much topics from my side | 13:48 |
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| claudiub | first of all, as you know, feature freeze is going to be this week. I already did release candidates for networking-hyperv and os-win. | 13:48 |
| claudiub | and the final release will be done in the next 1-2 weeks. | 13:49 |
| claudiub | up next would be release testing | 13:49 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:49 |
| claudiub | as we do every cycle, we run tempest for each and all supported Hyper-V versions, with all kinds of scenarios: networking-hyperv, ovs, etc. | 13:50 |
| claudiub | also, python 2.7 and python3.4 | 13:50 |
| claudiub | so, this will take a while. | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | Sonu_: one question. migration from networking-hyperv to ovs | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | you had anything to discuss on that | 13:51 |
| claudiub | we'll probably have to do some bug hunt for python 3.4, though. | 13:51 |
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| claudiub | anything else you guys want to discuss? | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: my question to sonu | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | you want to discuss anything on that topic | 13:53 |
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| sagar_nikam | networking-hyperv to ovs migration | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | we had a mail discussion few days back... not much since then | 13:53 |
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| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: welcome.... anywork happening on freerdp .. or is it on low priority | 13:57 |
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| claudiub | c64cosmin_: ^ | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: roland has replied | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | you saw that ? | 13:59 |
| c64cosmin_ | hey sagar_nikam, low priority for now | 13:59 |
| c64cosmin_ | sorry | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: sure no problem | 14:00 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep. saw it now. replying. | 14:00 |
| sagar_nikam | c64cosmin: just checking | 14:00 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: thanks | 14:00 |
| claudiub | anyways, Sonu seems to have disconnected. | 14:00 |
| claudiub | and we've passed our time limit. | 14:01 |
| claudiub | we have to end it here. :) | 14:01 |
| claudiub | thanks folks for joining, see you next week! | 14:01 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks | 14:01 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 31 14:01:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-08-31-13.00.html | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-08-31-13.00.txt | 14:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-08-31-13.00.log.html | 14:01 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 31 15:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:01 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:01 |
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| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Hi everyone | 15:01 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | The meeting agenda has been posted at, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday August 31, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Ceilosca | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Status of monasca-events? | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Schedule for Monasca-Newton (RC, GA, when last contributions are possible, list of new features) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Reviews | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361476/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+monasca,n,z | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351930/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Dimension names and IDs | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 5.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362339/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | If there are any other items to discuss please append to the list | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | So, the first item was Ceilosca | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | I'm not sure everyone is here for that discussion yet | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | I'm expecting a couple of folks from HPE and a couple from Watcher | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | Is anyone here from Watcher? | 15:03 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | OK, so maybe I should have put the Ceilosca/Watcher discussion later in the agenda | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | Let's see if folks show-up for that later | 15:03 |
| Atul | Hi Roland, Atul is here from Ceilosca. | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | hi atul | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | thanks for joining | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not seeign any folks from watcher yet | 15:04 |
| Atul | apologies this is my first IRC meeting, are we supposed to type only? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | yes, it is typing only | 15:04 |
| ashwinhpe | hi atul and roland | 15:04 |
| Atul | roger! if they are not here. you can push ceilosca to later | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | hi ashwinhpe | 15:04 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll check back to see if anyone from watcher shows-up | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | let's move on then | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | #events | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | #topic events | 15:05 |
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| cbellucci | this was from Tomasz | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | so, are you just wondering about status? | 15:06 |
| cbellucci | there were discussions about events and we would like to know the status and interest | 15:06 |
| cbellucci | correct | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | it looks like this is moving up in priority from hpe | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | we are expecting to put resources on it and have started to work on it again | 15:06 |
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| rhochmuth | if you/fujitsu are interested, we would love to have your involvement | 15:07 |
| cbellucci | great to hear that. how can we proceed? | 15:07 |
| cbellucci | indeed | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | i think we're going to need some more in-depth planning and esign discussions | 15:08 |
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| rhochmuth | to coordinate activities | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | i can setup some meetings next week | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | to discuss further | 15:08 |
| cbellucci | perfect! thank you | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think this format is going to be some great for that | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | so probably lync disucssions | 15:08 |
| cbellucci | agree :) | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | i was also going to setup some meetings about cassandra | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | next week too | 15:08 |
| cbellucci | next week Witek will be back too and Tomasz is interested | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | so it will be a busy week | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | next week | 15:09 |
| cbellucci | yep, cassandra is hot topic too | 15:09 |
| cbellucci | matthias is wokring on that | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | ok, will send invites out later today | 15:09 |
| cbellucci | thank you | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | #topic monasca-newton schedule | 15:10 |
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| cbellucci | again fujitsu :) | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | i've been gone so long, i haven't tracked well | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll probably be in trouble again | 15:10 |
| cbellucci | we would like to understand better deadlines and until when we can contribute | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | in general though, the quality is extremely high right now | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | i think the deadline is basically very soon | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | there is a schedule posted by openstack | 15:11 |
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| cbellucci | we see 12th... | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | we are supposed to be mainly in wa mode | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | 12th of september hopefully | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | not august | 15:11 |
| cbellucci | yep :) | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i think the 12th it is | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | that would work as far as i know for everything we are trying to get done | 15:12 |
| cbellucci | ok. can we contribute until that day? | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | most of the work right now is on bug fixes | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | yes, you can contribute until that day, but i'm not expecting any new features, beyond what is in flight and almost complete | 15:12 |
| cbellucci | ok, there is a list of new features too? | 15:12 |
| cbellucci | ok sure | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | would like to see focus on bugs | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | there are the blueprints we are working on | 15:13 |
| cbellucci | ok, thanks | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | but the reviews we';; be covering in a few minutes are the main focus | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i'm just not expecting a new blueprint to show-up | 15:14 |
| cbellucci | understood | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | are we good then, can we move on? | 15:14 |
| cbellucci | perfect, thanks let's move on | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361476/ | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | So this review introduces a parameter to the libvirt plugin to control the frequency of collecting vnic metrics | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | It is a simple change | 15:15 |
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| rhochmuth | but, i wanted to point it out and see if it impacted anyone | 15:15 |
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| rhochmuth | expecially charter, as you guys are deploying off of master | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | oops, it looks like craig merged it | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | i wasn't expecting that | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | was hoping to check with folks first | 15:17 |
| rbak | I'll take a look, but I don't think it will be a problem. | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | thanks rbak | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | sorry, it got merged prior to your approval | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | was hoping to check | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | first | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | if it is a problem, let me know | 15:17 |
| rbak | will do | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+monasca,n,z | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | uh oh, that isn't a review | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351930/ | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | So, just wanted to point out this review has been in progress | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | This review allows you to specify multipl coom delimited dimension in the group_by query parameter | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | coom -> comma | 15:20 |
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| rhochmuth | rbak: you might be interested in that review too, for integration into grafana | 15:21 |
| rbak | Yeah, we've been waiting for this. I'll take a look | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | thx: i believe rbrandt is basically done, barring any issues that come up | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350830/ | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | So, this is the one that I really wanted to discuss today | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | It was all looking good, until Kaiyan mentioned ids and that also got me thinking about pagination, my favorite topic | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | the first question, independent of grafana, is why would you need ids? | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | in the case of metric names, it is a 1D structure | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | in the case of dimension names and values, it is a 2D structure | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | a list of lists | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | similar to measurements and statistics | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | the combinatino of a metric name and a dimension name uniquely identify it | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | in the case of the values query, you also need to know the dimenion values that are returned | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | so, it looks like there is a problem with pagination right now | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | in the dimension values query | 15:25 |
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| rbak | I would say that if anything we need more consistency. I shouldn't need to know what I'm paging through in order to stitch the pages back together. | 15:27 |
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| rbak | It just makes the api easier to use, and having an id is a step in that direction. | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | so, how does the id help? | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | in this case? | 15:28 |
| rbak | Like I said. consistency. | 15:28 |
| rbak | It isn't strictly necessary, but it means I can process these pages the same as any of the others. | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | consistency with what, other queries | 15:29 |
| rbak | metrics, statistics, dimension values, etc. | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | ok | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | so, what happens if you query the dimension values for a dimension name of "resource_id", for which there are millions of potential resources | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | how would you page through the list of values for the dimension value of resource id? | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | if the limit is 10,000 | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | i'm expecting that the query woudl return a max of 10,000 dimenion values, similar to how the measuremnts and statistics queries work with 2-D lists of lists | 15:31 |
| rbak | I don't remember the specifics, but it's something like query for all the pages using the next links. At the end use the ids to stitch together the results. | 15:31 |
| rbak | I can point you to the current grafana code if you want. | 15:32 |
| bklei | exactly -- and when paginating through pages of statistics, rbak would use id. so doing the same for dimension names/values is a noop | 15:32 |
| rbak | But Grafana is only an example here. This would make it easier for anyone writing a client | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | the id that is returned is a composite of (metric name, dimension name) | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | actually a hash of (metric name, dimension name) | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | but the dimension value is not part of the id | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | if you had more than 10,000 values, i'm just wondering how to page | 15:34 |
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| bklei | right -- just so it's unique per api call | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm expecting the next link that is returned to somehow get to the same metric name and diemsion name, but offset to the correct dimension value | 15:34 |
| bklei | (consistent among pages for a given api call, that is) | 15:34 |
| bklei | yes -- that's how it works, but offset in this case isn't id -- but the dimension name (in the /dimensions/names/values case) | 15:35 |
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| bklei | the list is returned alphabetically | 15:35 |
| Kaiyan | The offset is an individual dimension value in this case. We can't use the id to be offset in current implementation. | 15:35 |
| bklei | +1 | 15:36 |
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| rbak | Right, and that id shouldn't be offset. offset changes. id needs to be consistent amongst all the pages. | 15:36 |
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| rhochmuth | the offset that is returned would have to be a combination of ((metric name, dimension name), dimension value) | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | or | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | (id, dimension value) | 15:37 |
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| rhochmuth | in string format | 15:37 |
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| rhochmuth | id_dimensionvalue | 15:37 |
| bklei | no -- just the dimension name or value -- so we can grab the spot in the list | 15:38 |
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| bklei | id doesn't play into offset at all in this case, because id isn't in the db | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | but don't you need to know the metric name too, so you know what list you are indexing into | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | it is a 2-D structure | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | a list of list | 15:39 |
| bklei | metric name is optional, and is part of the url to get the list to return. but either the dimension name or value (depending on the api call) is how you know where the offset lands | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, i'll take another look off-line | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | sounds like i need to spend a little more time on this | 15:40 |
| bklei | i'm speaking mostly for /dimensions/names/values -- kaiyan can correct me for the new patch | 15:40 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll create some examples with greater than 10,000 resources and see what happens | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | i should have done that sooner | 15:41 |
| bklei | we've tested with very low offsets, it works :) | 15:41 |
| bklei | or limits rather | 15:41 |
| Kaiyan | there is no required input arg for dimensions/names but for dimensions/names/values dimension_name is required | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | thx bklei | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | ahh, yes i could specify a limit of 2 or 10 | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | that will save me some time loading the db | 15:42 |
| bklei | yeah | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:42 |
| bklei | (thumbsup) | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362339/ | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | i think that is the last one | 15:43 |
| rbak | That's mine, just trying to get some eyes on it. | 15:43 |
| rbak | It should be a simple fix | 15:43 |
| rbak | And right now it means that anyone creating an alarm through the cli can break the overview page. | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | ok, it looks good to me | 15:44 |
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| rbak | Thanks, that's all I had. | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | #topic ceilosca/watcher | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | has anyone shown up from watcher project | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | sorry ashwin and atul | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | i thought they would attend the monasca meeting this week | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | i beleive they have their meeting right after ours | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | so, we could hang-out | 15:46 |
| ashwinhpe | np...if they can try this patch out and let us know that will be great https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363315 | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | it is in this irc room | 15:47 |
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| rhochmuth | besides watcher/ceilosca, are there any other areas to look at/discuss | 15:47 |
| ibmko | rhochmuth, one thing | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | my one action item is to setup a cassandra and events meetings next week | 15:48 |
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| ibmko | rbak, reminding myself with the clean up script for the deleted VMs :) | 15:48 |
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| rbak | Turns out we already had that in our puppet repo. | 15:49 |
| rbak | Give me a moment and I'll find the link | 15:49 |
| ibmko | thanks | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | we also updated our vm deletion script, but it is not upstream | 15:49 |
| rbak | https://github.com/openstack/puppet-monasca/blob/master/templates/vm_alarm_cleanup.py.erb | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | sorry, ibmko | 15:49 |
| ibmko | thanks we will have a look | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | thx rbak | 15:50 |
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| ibmko | so this puppet repo is now primary means of monasca deployment ? | 15:51 |
| ibmko | from what it use to be the ansible one ? | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | the puppet repos are used by charter | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | the ansible one's are a bit out-dated | 15:52 |
| rbak | It's one way of deploying, I don't know if I would say it's primary | 15:52 |
| ibmko | ok | 15:52 |
| rbak | We use it, and there are a few other companies at least looking at it. | 15:52 |
| ibmko | we have our own at the moment | 15:52 |
| ibmko | ansible based | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | there is also a new ansible monasca project being created | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | see, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360140/ | 15:53 |
| ibmko | ok thx | 15:53 |
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| rhochmuth | so Jesse Pretorius from Rackspace has proposed adding a openstack-ansible project for monasca, which will be approved shortly i'm assuming | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | in the future, i think that is going to be the best place to look for ansible based deployer | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | i don't know what he has completed and what is available in an upstream repo | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | but you could check with him | 15:55 |
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| rhochmuth | as this seems to be getting more recent development | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | other than that, i don't know anything about it | 15:55 |
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| ibmko | rhochmuth, thanks I'll check that | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i'm going to end this meeting, unless someone has another item | 15:56 |
| ibmko | as we don't want to maintain our own if not necessary | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | i'll hangout for watcher too thoguh | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | imbko: right | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | ok, bye everyone | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 31 15:57:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-08-31-15.00.html | 15:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-08-31-15.00.txt | 15:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-08-31-15.00.log.html | 15:57 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 31 15:59:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 15:59 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge | 16:00 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:00 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:00 |
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| shamail | \o | 16:00 |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.15 | 16:00 |
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| eglute | please add as needed! | 16:00 |
| eglute | Mark is at VMWorld today, so he will not be here today | 16:01 |
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| eglute | Anyone else here for defcore meeting? | 16:01 |
| gema | o/ | 16:02 |
| shamail | here | 16:02 |
| gema | half here half on a deployment | 16:02 |
| eglute | :) | 16:02 |
| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | #topic Board meeting update | 16:02 |
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| * notmyname lurks | 16:02 | |
| eglute | couple weeks ago we presented the defcore report to the board | 16:02 |
| VanL | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a4OWcGARqfuTAk5uax4d3LJGXeKiO5gZZ62jiEM4RDk/edit?usp=sharing | 16:03 |
| eglute | The board approved the 1.6 guideline and 2016.08 guideline | 16:03 |
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| eglute | they also approved the name change | 16:03 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| eglute | board members were excited about the change, | 16:04 |
| eglute | so going forward we will need to start calling ourselves Interop Working Group | 16:04 |
| eglute | hogepodge can you help us with all the renames? | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | We'll need a sub-working group to handle the name change process | 16:04 |
| shamail | eglute: Are we going to update the meeting ID on eavesdrop as well? This will mean that new logs will be in a different location than older ones. Not an issue but we should add a pointer to “archive meeting logs” with the old folder location. | 16:04 |
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| shamail | I can help hogepodge | 16:05 |
| eglute | shamail good point | 16:05 |
| hogepodge | I'm assuming we'll want new irc room, mailing list name, as well as documentation changes? | 16:05 |
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| hogepodge | New repository? | 16:05 |
| gema | oh wow, it is more radical than I thought :D | 16:05 |
| eglute | well, how confusing would it be if we kept mailing list/irc as the same? | 16:05 |
| hogepodge | This is actually a pretty big undertaking if we want a comprehensive name change. | 16:05 |
| eglute | and repo? | 16:05 |
| eglute | so do we need a comprehensive one? | 16:06 |
| shamail | Coin toss on repository name… It could stay the same since the repo name doesn’t have to be the same but programs.yaml would need to be updated at least | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | Which I'm ok with, we just need to put together a work list and methodically get through it. I'm happy to lead those efforts with shamail | 16:06 |
| eglute | #action hogepodge and shamail to lead rename efforts | 16:06 |
| shamail | Any desired completion timeframe? | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | As a rebranding effort, I expect it to take a few months. | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | shamail: I'd be conservative and target Jan 1 | 16:06 |
| shamail | hogepodge: +1 | 16:07 |
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| eglute | thanks hogepodge. i am ok with conservative | 16:07 |
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| rockyg | o/ | 16:07 |
| hj-hpe | Greetings and salutations all | 16:07 |
| eglute | i am also ok with keeping some things called defcore, like IRC channel | 16:07 |
| eglute | what does everyone else think? | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I'm worried that we'll continue the confusion of what defcore is, and it's marked as one of the major issues in our report | 16:08 |
| gema | yeah, hogepodge has a point, let's move it all to the new name | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | eglute: so even though it will be painful, consistency is important. that's just my opinion on the matter | 16:08 |
| eglute | hogepodge good point | 16:08 |
| gema | over time | 16:08 |
| hj-hpe | Agreed | 16:08 |
| rockyg | don't have a scrollback to view, but I agree with hogepodge in that the TC is starting to talk about "core" again. | 16:08 |
| gema | +1 on consistency | 16:08 |
| shamail | I agree with hogepodge, painful but will pay dividends in the long run | 16:08 |
| woodster_ | so will summit be where the name change is officially announced, or should it be changed over before that? | 16:09 |
| rockyg | we should do a redirect for the defcore channel, though, when it gets a new name | 16:09 |
| eglute | woodster_ we have not discussed that yet! but we do need to make an announcement | 16:09 |
| hogepodge | woodster_: summit is as good a place as any, and gets us all in the same room to start pushing the last items through | 16:09 |
| * woodster_ might even be last minute name changes to bike shed over? :) | 16:10 | |
| shamail | hogepodge: Does it make sense to prioritize some areas to be renamed before the summit from the exhaustive list that we will build? That way some of the more recognizable artifacts are renamed prior to announcement. | 16:10 |
| hogepodge | shamail: I think so | 16:10 |
| eglute | +1 | 16:10 |
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| eglute | I think this will be a hard change but will help talking about defcore/interop going forward. | 16:11 |
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| eglute | anything else regarding the name change? any comments? | 16:11 |
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| eglute | #topic Summit | 16:12 |
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| VanL | I'll still probably call it defcore in private ;) | 16:12 |
| hj-hpe | Shun the non believer! | 16:12 |
| eglute | VanL i bet your are not the only one ;) | 16:12 |
| eglute | heh | 16:12 |
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| eglute | We are less than 2 months away from the summit! | 16:12 |
| shamail | lol | 16:12 |
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| eglute | i hope to see everyone there | 16:13 |
| eglute | hogepodge told me he will be working on getting us a time slot for a WG | 16:13 |
| * shamail is already exhausted from the summit | 16:13 | |
| shamail | :P | 16:13 |
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| eglute | i have not looked if any defcore presentations got selected for the summit | 16:14 |
| rockyg | unfortunately, I'm talking twice, so I'll be there. One talk will be on the interop challenge and refstack | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | from what I understand the UC will be sending out WG invitations, and DefCore will be included in the scheduling (as will any other non-UC governed working groups) | 16:14 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge | 16:14 |
| gema | rockyg: it was unclear to me who will be talking on the interop challenge | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | I'm on a panel that was accepted | 16:14 |
| rockyg | For the one session, refstack and beyond, it's me and Catherine | 16:15 |
| gema | rockyg: +1 | 16:15 |
| eglute | hogepodge what is the panel that you are on? | 16:15 |
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| rockyg | we might ping the ml for info/comments | 16:15 |
| eglute | rockyg please do | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16339/interop-you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means | 16:16 |
| eglute | oh nice | 16:16 |
| eglute | thanks | 16:16 |
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| rockyg | Kewl! | 16:17 |
| eglute | any other comments regarding summit? | 16:17 |
| gema | nice indeed, will try to ask questions :D | 16:17 |
| rockyg | I actually think I want to go to that one! | 16:17 |
| hogepodge | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16412/beyond-refstack-the-interop-challenge | 16:17 |
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| hogepodge | I don't see anything else matching defcore or interop in the schedule | 16:17 |
| eglute | thanks for checking hogepodge. we will have the WG as well | 16:18 |
| rockyg | You didn't hear this from me, but expect interop in a keynote. | 16:18 |
| gema | rockyg: you realize you are on record, right? :D | 16:19 |
| eglute | is that going to be the interop challenge? I expect IBM will be talking about that | 16:19 |
| rockyg | yeah ;P | 16:19 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.01 guideline | 16:19 |
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| rockyg | Not positive on what, just know that it will be part of one. | 16:19 |
| eglute | since the latest guideline was approved in August, the timeline for a new one will be a little compressed | 16:20 |
| rockyg | Oh, and I'm not here anyways, because I'm on vacation. | 16:20 |
| eglute | the next guideline will be 2017.01, approved in January 2017 board meeting | 16:20 |
| gema | :) | 16:20 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I'm ok with the next guideline being much more iterative. I have a feeling the one just approved will be a pretty big shock with the addition of direct APIs | 16:21 |
| * gema volunteers to do heat or keystone | 16:21 | |
| gema | let's get on with it, shall we? :) | 16:21 |
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| eglute | we have two months to ID new capabilities and create a preliminary draft | 16:21 |
| eglute | thanks gema for volunteering to do keystone and heat! | 16:21 |
| eglute | any other volunteers? | 16:22 |
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| gema | ¬¬' I said or! | 16:22 |
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| gema | :D | 16:22 |
| eglute | i agree with hogepodge, we can have fewer new additions | 16:22 |
| hogepodge | neutron capabilities need work in progress with updating the tests | 16:22 |
| rockyg | ++ a bit of stability after the shock of 2016.08 would be good. | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | I hesitate to volunteer for it because my dance card is filled up until Barcelona :-P | 16:23 |
| eglute | hogepodge i think Mark had some tests in progress, is that correct? | 16:23 |
| gema | hogepodge: so is mine | 16:23 |
| rockyg | eglute, yeah, he does/did | 16:23 |
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| shamail | Can I schedule a session with someone to come up to speed on the process (after reading through what’s available)? // any volunteers? I’m fairly packed in as well but I can try to help as time permits. | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | but I will be in Germany for the QA meetup, so I can raise some issues there and see if we can move those tests forward while we have the team in the room | 16:23 |
| eglute | hogepodge that would be great | 16:24 |
| hogepodge | shamail: I'd be happy to help get you up to speed | 16:24 |
| shamail | Thank you hogepodge | 16:24 |
| rockyg | We have a guy in China who is supposed to get up to speed on this group, so if we schedule late afternoon, he can also be in the training/kickoff class | 16:24 |
| eglute | hogepodge when is the QA meeting? | 16:24 |
| gema | sept 19-21 | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints | 16:25 |
| gema | I will be there too | 16:25 |
| eglute | thanks gema | 16:25 |
| shamail | rockyg: Connect him with me and I will make sure to include him when scheduling a follow-up with hogepodge | 16:25 |
| gema | nodding to all the comments from hogepodge | 16:25 |
| gema | for support | 16:25 |
| eglute | we can probably schedule interactive video session for those who want to attend | 16:25 |
| shamail | eglute: +1 | 16:25 |
| eglute | i would be happy to help hogepodge | 16:26 |
| rockyg | ++ shamail | 16:26 |
| eglute | is next week too soon? | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | depending on our agenda load, we could use next week's meeting as a defcore process 101 | 16:26 |
| shamail | Latter half of next week is doable, I want to make sure I leave some time to read HACKING.rst, etc. first. | 16:26 |
| eglute | #action hogepodge eglute to schedule intro to the guideline session | 16:27 |
| shamail | hogepodge: If that is the plan then I would recommend also sending an email to other ML to let others know who might be interested that this would be a good session to join if planning to help with interop in the future. | 16:27 |
| eglute | #action eglute to send a doodle to the mailing list to gage interest and collect convenient times | 16:27 |
| eglute | hogepodge i agree | 16:27 |
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| shamail | It could be education/recruitment all in one :) | 16:27 |
| rockyg | Actually what shamail said is good. Produce a reading list for those attending to review before the meeting. | 16:28 |
| eglute | :) | 16:28 |
| hogepodge | eglute: shamail: at the risk of creating a ton of new work, record a webinar? | 16:28 |
| eglute | #action eglute and hogepodge create a reading list prior to the session | 16:28 |
| eglute | hogepodge i like that idea | 16:28 |
| rockyg | It will also be a great "getting started with "whatever we call ourselves going forward" | 16:28 |
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| shamail | hogepodge: I would say we should do that after the intial 101 session, that way you can address questions left open (even after reading the docs) that come up | 16:29 |
| shamail | Or we could record the Q&A session itself | 16:29 |
| eglute | i am ok with either | 16:29 |
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| shamail | Sorry to go off-track eglute, I want to help with the guidelines but I need help on how to help first | 16:29 |
| eglute | shamail fair enough, i am all for onboarding people :) | 16:30 |
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| rockyg | eglute, ++ | 16:30 |
| eglute | besides, we do have some other people who are new to this group :) | 16:30 |
| shamail | thank you | 16:30 |
| eglute | ok, so we will hold of asking for volunteers for scoring other components after the training session | 16:31 |
| eglute | i know catherine_d|1 has done heat in the past | 16:31 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: yea ... but the issue wit heat is | 16:32 |
| catherine_d|1 | they still do not have tests in Tempest .. | 16:32 |
| eglute | perhaps catherine_d|1 could follow up with the heat team to see if they made any changes since we talked to them last time | 16:32 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 do you know if they are planning on moving to tempest? | 16:32 |
| rockyg | catherine_d|1, they are on the verge.... | 16:32 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: rockyg: they are on the plan to implement the Tempest plugin | 16:33 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 any idea what their timeline is? | 16:33 |
| catherine_d|1 | but no plan for moving tests to Tempest yet ... this is news as of last month . I can check with them again | 16:33 |
| eglute | thank you catherine_d|1 | 16:33 |
| eglute | we will talk about other components next time then | 16:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: will do | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: can you work with Heat to get design summit time for that topic? | 16:34 |
| hogepodge | (moving tests) | 16:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: great idea! will do | 16:34 |
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| rockyg | great idea, hogepodge | 16:34 |
| rockyg | catherine_d|1, types faster than I do | 16:35 |
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| catherine_d|1 | :rockyg: -) only this time | 16:36 |
| eglute | so far, i have come up with a preliminary timeline, and i propose that we ID new capabilities by September 14th. this is very aggressive timeline, but works if we are going to go easy on trying to add new capabilities. We could also combine ID capabilities and scoring | 16:36 |
| eglute | any thoughts on the timeline? | 16:37 |
| hogepodge | #info the timeline changes are at the bottom of the etherpad | 16:37 |
| hogepodge | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.15 | 16:38 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge | 16:38 |
| gema | eglute: I am not sure I can make it | 16:38 |
| gema | eglute: in fact I am sure I cannot make it for that date x) | 16:38 |
| eglute | i need to finish the second part | 16:38 |
| eglute | gema would adding a week help? | 16:38 |
| gema | nope, september is packed for me | 16:38 |
| gema | qa/infra midcycle and linaro connect | 16:38 |
| gema | I can get to it before ODS, though, if it helps | 16:39 |
| gema | or if anyone else has the time, they can also do it :D | 16:39 |
| eglute | when is ODS? | 16:39 |
| eglute | what is ODS? | 16:39 |
| gema | October 20thish | 16:39 |
| gema | the summit? | 16:39 |
| eglute | oh | 16:40 |
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| gema | sorry, I thought it was a generic acronym, that's the barcelona developer summit | 16:40 |
| eglute | i think we need to have them scored by the summit | 16:40 |
| eglute | but the ID part should be done before then | 16:40 |
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| eglute | lets see how much help we can get after the training session | 16:41 |
| gema | ack | 16:41 |
| eglute | hogepodge what is your opinion on the timeline? | 16:41 |
| hogepodge | It's tight | 16:41 |
| eglute | the 2017.01 draft should be done by October 25th, so we can get feedback | 16:41 |
| hogepodge | For me the first half of September will be in a hardware build, and the second half is travel | 16:42 |
| gema | eglute: I can have it by that date, I just don't have time to touch it during september | 16:42 |
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| hogepodge | More time frees up for me October 1, but a lot of the ground work has been done for the previous release, so this will me mostly iterative | 16:42 |
| hogepodge | s/me/be | 16:42 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: eglute: at the minumun we do have advisory capability in 2016.08 that can be moved to required section .. | 16:43 |
| rockyg | catherine_d|1, +1 | 16:43 |
| eglute | i am ok with us not sticking to the timeline too much, and i hope hogepodge is right that we will not have too many new capabilities | 16:43 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 +1 | 16:43 |
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| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: yeah, and some of the advisory is dependent on test changes, which we have until December to get landed | 16:43 |
| catherine_d|1 | new;y scoring capablities can be added interactively over the next few months as we did in the past? | 16:43 |
| rockyg | Also, look at items just below the cutoff score and see if they move up for this round | 16:43 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 i think so! | 16:44 |
| eglute | rockyg good point | 16:44 |
| hogepodge | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/defcore/tree/working_materials/scoring.txt | 16:44 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge | 16:44 |
| eglute | any other comments on the new guideline? | 16:45 |
| eglute | #topic RefStack | 16:45 |
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| eglute | catherine_d|1 go ahead! | 16:45 |
| catherine_d|1 | Thanks to your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353903/ .. it was merged .. and we start implementing that already | 16:46 |
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| eglute | nice! | 16:47 |
| catherine_d|1 | we have two more foundation specs .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/ | 16:47 |
| rockyg | ++ | 16:47 |
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| catherine_d|1 | could you pleaser review so that we can proceed to implementation ... | 16:47 |
| eglute | #action everyone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332260/ | 16:48 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 i will review them later today | 16:48 |
| catherine_d|1 | our plan is to get all the implementatin done end of Sept ... so we allow 3 weeks to update the website .. in case there is issue | 16:48 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: thank you very much! | 16:48 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: want to confirm with you on the term "certification" vs "validation" | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | catherine_d|1: oh gosh, I keep forgetting | 16:49 |
| gema | catherine_d|1: validation didn't say much to me, does it mean that the result has been validated by chris? | 16:49 |
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| gema | and if the user wants to withdraw they contact chris and he unvalidates it? | 16:50 |
| hogepodge | gema: I would avoid saying by chris and say against guideline | 16:50 |
| gema | hogepodge: I could say the foundation but the way it is worded it does require someone's intervention | 16:50 |
| catherine_d|1 | This was a feedback from Mark | 16:50 |
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| hogepodge | yeah, I don't want to be seen as the gatekeeper, and the language should focus on the guideline and some governing authority checking against the guideline as used in a license agreement | 16:51 |
| gema | hogepodge: +1 | 16:51 |
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| eglute | foundation is the governing authority, correct? | 16:52 |
| hogepodge | but I'm not the governing authority, the interop working group and openstack foundation are the important parts of the process | 16:52 |
| gema | hogepodge: but practically, if a user sends the foundation a link to results for validation you validate them and mark it as validated | 16:52 |
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| gema | which means they are certified, correct? | 16:52 |
| gema | you as in someone in the foundation | 16:53 |
| rockyg | hogepodge, is acting for the foundation | 16:53 |
| gema | yep | 16:53 |
| rockyg | he is the assigned representative of the foundation | 16:54 |
| gema | sure, I was just trying to understand the process | 16:54 |
| gema | catherine_d|1: works for me as you have it now | 16:54 |
| hogepodge | ok, I think we need to use the word verify, as certify means to make an official pledge and has deeper legal meeting | 16:55 |
| rockyg | verify is good | 16:55 |
| gema | verify sounds good | 16:55 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: gema: I can change to verify | 16:55 |
| hogepodge | gema: right now, one step in the licensing process is to send me a refstack link that shows the product meets the testing requirements for the logo program | 16:55 |
| catherine_d|1 | it is better now than later | 16:55 |
| gema | hogepodge: ok | 16:56 |
| gema | catherine_d|1: yep, sounds better | 16:56 |
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| hogepodge | gema: I then signal to our legal team that the vendor is qualified to sign the license agreement, which is generated and sent to the vendor | 16:56 |
| catherine_d|1 | ok thank you ... I will make the change .. | 16:56 |
| gema | hogepodge: ah, ok | 16:56 |
| hogepodge | gema: the contract comes back and is then countersigned by a foundation representative | 16:56 |
| catherine_d|1 | let me update the patch and please review again! thank you all! | 16:57 |
| hogepodge | which is not me | 16:57 |
| gema | thank you catherine_d|1 | 16:57 |
| gema | hogepodge: ok, makes sense | 16:57 |
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| rockyg | hogepodge, true dat | 16:57 |
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| catherine_d|1 | gema: thanks for your review and bring up this question ... that is what review is for .. | 16:57 |
| gema | catherine_d|1: +1 | 16:58 |
| eglute | i think we are almost out of time... catherine_d|1 anything else? | 16:58 |
| catherine_d|1 | no thx | 16:58 |
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| eglute | thank you everyone!! | 16:58 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 31 16:58:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-08-31-15.59.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-08-31-15.59.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-08-31-15.59.log.html | 16:58 |
| shamail | take care | 16:58 |
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| alaski | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 31 17:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alaski. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| dansmith | ohai | 17:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 17:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 17:00 |
| alaski | gonna be a quick one today | 17:00 |
| alaski | #topic Open discussion | 17:00 |
| alaski | no real agenda | 17:00 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: your patch is ready and dependent on the fix? | 17:01 |
| melwitt | dansmith: I just now pushed a new version pointing at the devstack change | 17:01 |
| melwitt | changed from depending on the grenade hack patch to the devstack patch, that is | 17:01 |
| dansmith | melwitt: right, that. so unless I find anything else we can +2 that yes? | 17:02 |
| alaski | which fix? | 17:02 |
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| melwitt | alaski: we needed to do something to get the rabbit userid variable usable in grenade so the mq switch could login to rabbit | 17:02 |
| alaski | I guess I can look at the depends-on | 17:02 |
| alaski | melwitt: oh yeah, that one | 17:03 |
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| melwitt | without that, the switch fails auth missing the userid | 17:03 |
| alaski | so your patch is ready other than that? | 17:03 |
| melwitt | yes | 17:03 |
| alaski | great | 17:03 |
| dansmith | alaski: I will hit that when we're done here | 17:03 |
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| alaski | we have a couple of open devstack/grenade patches up that I may need to ping people on | 17:03 |
| alaski | the only other things I'd like to see get in are my two patches | 17:04 |
| alaski | but | 17:04 |
| alaski | I'm having an issue with service_version that I need to resolve | 17:04 |
| melwitt | alaski: I was just looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356138/ and it looks like there might be legit tempest failures on the list servers negative tests? | 17:04 |
| mriedem | to be clear, that's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356138/ | 17:04 |
| mriedem | ? | 17:04 |
| alaski | yes | 17:04 |
| alaski | right now get_minimum_version or whatever returns 0 | 17:05 |
| alaski | even though every service says it's version 15 | 17:05 |
| dansmith | alaski: is that happening before any service record has been written? | 17:05 |
| dansmith | that's a known quirk | 17:05 |
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| alaski | no, this is quite late | 17:05 |
| dansmith | alaski: basically, if you're the first service you can't figure out what the real minimum is | 17:05 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:05 |
| alaski | like halfway through a tempest run | 17:05 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:05 |
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| melwitt | okay, sorry I didn't realize the bug you're working through was on the bottom patch, I assumed it was on the WIP one | 17:05 |
| dansmith | alaski: using the wrong binary name? | 17:05 |
| alaski | dansmith: maybe. I just added some more logging to see what's going on | 17:06 |
| alaski | but I'll check the code for that | 17:06 |
| alaski | melwitt: well, the bug is on a merged patch. but isn't exposed until the bottom one | 17:06 |
| melwitt | gotcha | 17:06 |
| alaski | but it's very rare so I didn't see it until two days ago | 17:06 |
| alaski | If I can fix that, and add testing for the current WIP one, those are what I'd like to get in | 17:07 |
| alaski | but if not, we're still in a good spot I think | 17:07 |
| mriedem | i'm asking sean about FF for devstack/grenade, | 17:07 |
| mriedem | not sure if we have some more time there or not | 17:08 |
| alaski | that's all I've got, just wanted to touch base real quick | 17:08 |
| mriedem | before they branch it | 17:08 |
| alaski | mriedem: okay | 17:08 |
| mriedem | because i see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362154/ | 17:08 |
| dansmith | alaski: they branch super late | 17:08 |
| mriedem | and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-dev/grenade+branch:master+topic:setup_cell0_before_migrations | 17:08 |
| dansmith | alaski: so I kinda expect not | 17:08 |
| dansmith | er, mriedem ^ | 17:08 |
| dansmith | they branch well after the final release normally I think | 17:08 |
| mriedem | are any of the nova changes dependent on devstack/grenade cahnges? | 17:08 |
| alaski | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362154/ | 17:08 |
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| alaski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356138/ is | 17:08 |
| alaski | dependant | 17:09 |
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| mriedem | hmm, ok | 17:09 |
| melwitt | my patch depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363295/ in devstack | 17:09 |
| alaski | there's also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355602/ which should depend on one of the above patches | 17:10 |
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| alaski | so that's where things are at | 17:10 |
| mriedem | ok, i can rebase those 2 devstack changes to line them up | 17:10 |
| alaski | thanks | 17:10 |
| alaski | anything else to mention? | 17:11 |
| mriedem | what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362310/1 ? | 17:11 |
| mriedem | that's the bottom of the grenade series | 17:11 |
| alaski | there should be something depending on that somewhere, but that's needed too | 17:11 |
| mriedem | it's the bottom of hte series and the nova change is dependent on that series | 17:12 |
| alaski | ahh | 17:12 |
| mriedem | my point being, | 17:12 |
| mriedem | if we really want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356138/ for FF | 17:12 |
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| mriedem | then we need those 2 grenade changes to land | 17:12 |
| alaski | yes | 17:12 |
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| mriedem | ok i'm pinging sdague about that | 17:13 |
| alaski | I want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356138/ to land. but I don't think it has an upgrade impact, in that if it doesn't make it I think we're okay in O | 17:13 |
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| alaski | we just won't hit the goal I had hoped to hit | 17:13 |
| mriedem | and even for ^, | 17:13 |
| mriedem | we don't have anything going to cell0 yet right? | 17:13 |
| alaski | mriedem: right, the WIP is the first patch to really use it | 17:14 |
| mriedem | because https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267827/ | 17:14 |
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| alaski | that's actually not necessary any more | 17:14 |
| alaski | my WIP supercedes it | 17:14 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure how https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267827/ even passes jenkins w/o depending on these other changes | 17:14 |
| mriedem | oh | 17:14 |
| mriedem | can we drop https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267827/ then? | 17:14 |
| alaski | yes | 17:15 |
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| alaski | abandoned | 17:15 |
| alaski | anything more? | 17:16 |
| alaski | great. thanks all | 17:16 |
| alaski | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-08-31-17.00.html | 17:16 |
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| rdopiera | o/ | 20:05 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:05 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ohai rdopiera | 20:05 |
| bpokorny | o/ | 20:06 |
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| tsufiev | o/ | 20:06 |
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| david-lyle | #startmeeting horizon | 20:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 31 20:08:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is david-lyle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so, how about that weather we've been having? | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | our ship is lacking its rudder, but we can attempt to carry on | 20:08 |
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| david-lyle | #topic reviews | 20:09 |
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| rdopiera | the ship will carry our bodies safe to shore | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | do them | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yessir! | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | last day I believe | 20:09 |
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| david-lyle | maybe tomorrow | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | after that, as usual bug fixes can continue to get merged | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | blueprints require a FFE | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 20:10 |
| david-lyle | I think there is one FFE so far, I think Glance v2 would be another | 20:10 |
| TravT_ | o/ | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | technically we've been in feature freeze for a week | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: right | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | but I think filter and glance v2 were still ok | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | so I guess we probably have 3 FFEs | 20:11 |
| tsufiev | glanceV2 \o/ | 20:11 |
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| david-lyle | so anyway, merging bug fixes is still ok | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | wishlist bugs not as much | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | then we'll tighten up for RC-1 | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | once that branches master is open for Ocata | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | but wait for the announcement that RC-1 branch has been made | 20:13 |
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| david-lyle | any questions about release mechanics? | 20:14 |
| tsufiev | david-lyle, better temporarily -2 profiler patches, otherwise someone might approve them :) | 20:14 |
| tsufiev | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273085/ | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: if you do it yourself, you won't have to wait for someone else to remove when the window opens | 20:14 |
| tsufiev | oh, that's true | 20:14 |
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| david-lyle | #topic Barcelona | 20:15 |
| TravT_ | FYI that i've found a couple of magic search bugs / idiosyncrasies that we'd like to get fixed this release. | 20:15 |
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| * tsufiev prevailed himself and -2-ed his patch | 20:15 | |
| david-lyle | TravT_: are they targeted for N-3 or RC-1? | 20:16 |
| TravT_ | don't have patches up, but we found some of them while doing some user testing. | 20:16 |
| TravT_ | I think rc-1 | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | we have about 2 weeks | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | so get them up as soon as possible | 20:16 |
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| david-lyle | ok Barcelona | 20:17 |
| * TravT_ TravT | 20:17 | |
| david-lyle | any idea on how many will actually make it there? | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | *crickets* | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | I will be alone :( | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | wait until you hear what the room agrees to | 20:18 |
| * tsufiev just got his travel approval | 20:18 | |
| david-lyle | that's 2 | 20:19 |
| rdopiera | I will be there | 20:19 |
| TravT_ | matt, diana, and I have approval requests pending. | 20:19 |
| david-lyle | probably other people's travel is still working itself out | 20:19 |
| bpokorny | I will probably be there. Waiting on travel approval. | 20:19 |
| lcastell | :( | 20:19 |
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| TravT_ | travel approval is exceptionally tight this time. | 20:19 |
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| bpokorny | Yeah, seems that way for a lot of companies this time. | 20:20 |
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| rdopiera | which is strange, because it's much cheaper than Texas | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | well I think the proper way to address that is have the etherpads up early and allow those who can't attend to weigh in | 20:20 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, depends on where you flying from ;) | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | well there is a global investment curve that seems to be trending in a particular direction | 20:21 |
| rdopiera | tsufiev: flying? we have trains :D | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | ok, I suppose before long robcresswell will be asking for topics | 20:21 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, cheater! | 20:22 |
| tsufiev | :) | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | I'll let him decide how he wants to collect those | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | #topic Open Discussion | 20:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:22 | |
| david-lyle | anything else on people's minds? | 20:22 |
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| rdopiera | so we recently pulled in the xstatic overhaul into our branch | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: how did that go? | 20:23 |
| * r1chardj0n3s ducks | 20:23 | |
| rdopiera | and of course that exploded the builds :) | 20:23 |
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| * david-lyle points fingers | 20:23 | |
| david-lyle | recoverably? | 20:24 |
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| * david-lyle is dying from the suspense | 20:24 | |
| * r1chardj0n3s also | 20:24 | |
| rdopiera | hopefully, I will look into this in detail tomorrow, I'm not entirely sure what hacks we have in the xstatic rpm packages on our side to make it all work with the globally installed libraries | 20:24 |
| rdopiera | it might be as simple as setting the missing main path | 20:25 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | hopefully, yep | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but also there are in-code overrides possible still, they just look different | 20:25 |
| rdopiera | I just thought I will mention it, not sure if it makes sense to make an upgrade guide for this | 20:26 |
| rdopiera | because it will be mostly solved by the few packagers who care | 20:26 |
| rdopiera | and not the general audience | 20:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | rdopiera: please keep in touch if you need any help sorting it out | 20:26 |
| rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: thank you, I will certainly call you up on that! ;) | 20:27 |
| jlopezgu | I proposed a bp related to a recently added feature in keystone, I would appreciate if someone could review it and give me some feedback. | 20:27 |
| jlopezgu | It's url: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/password-expires-validation | 20:27 |
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| tsufiev | hm... | 20:28 |
| david-lyle | reading it, why would it be configureable? | 20:29 |
| tsufiev | password management AFAIK is one of the features that keystone community desperately trying to offload to somewhere else | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: yeah, but they haven't and likely won't | 20:30 |
| tsufiev | 'cause that would be 'the enterprise way' | 20:30 |
| jlopezgu | well, basically it allows to decide how many days prior to the expiration date, maybe the true/false could be always enabled instead | 20:30 |
| tsufiev | just read that they added it | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | of if that value is set, then it's enabled | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | but those are implementation details | 20:31 |
| tsufiev | something definitely weird is happening in this world :/ | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | nothing to block it over | 20:31 |
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| david-lyle | ok, any other items ? | 20:32 |
| jlopezgu | Ok, thanks | 20:32 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell: how do you want to collect summit topics? | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | etherpad again? | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | Etherpad, its worked fine | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | I'll make one now | 20:33 |
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| robcresswell | Sorry everyone for missing the meeting, my fault, completely slipped my mind | 20:34 |
| rdopiera | better than me last week, I realised next day | 20:34 |
| david-lyle | has this bitten anyone yet? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-no-more-extensions | 20:34 |
| tsufiev | O.O | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | looks like some extensions are disappearing in newton | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/api-no-more-extensions.html | 20:35 |
| TravT | seems like that'll break a couple things... | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | yeah | 20:35 |
| tsufiev | don't they have a deprecation period for that? | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | they already have | 20:36 |
| * tsufiev seen none of related warnings in horizon console | 20:36 | |
| robcresswell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ocata-summit | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | I wonder if the list_extensions just returns yes ? | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | I'd have to look back at exactly how we're getting them | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | potential fun for the day before N-3 | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: +! | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | or 1 | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | I'll send out an email with the etherpad | 20:38 |
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| david-lyle | meeting going twice... | 20:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks david-lyle :-) | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | sold | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, thanks :) | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | #endmeeting | 20:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 31 20:40:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-08-31-20.08.html | 20:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-08-31-20.08.txt | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | good night o/~ | 20:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-08-31-20.08.log.html | 20:40 |
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