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dtroyer_zzanyone here for OSC?13:06
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rtheishere13:06
dtroyer_zz((yes, I'm running late))13:06
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dtroyer_zz#startmeeting openstackclient13:06
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 22 13:06:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dtroyer_zz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:06
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient'13:06
aohuanxuano/13:06
dtroyer_zzok, let's get started…13:07
dtroyer_zz#topic releases13:07
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dtroyer_zzWe're still waiting on g-r to branch before we'll be able to make another release13:08
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dtroyer_zzI updated 3.3.0 Tuesday to include more of the new merges, will do again next week if we're still in this boat (likely)13:08
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rtheisok13:08
dtroyer_zz#topic reviews13:09
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dtroyer_zzthere is a good sized backlog, I've not had time to dive into any of the thornier ones yet this week13:10
dtroyer_zzanything you guys want to bring up here?13:10
rtheisI have one13:10
rtheishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/310193/11/doc/source/command-options.rst13:10
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rtheisand it relates to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368320/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308201/13:10
rtheisyou raised concerns in one of the reviews and wanted to double check on the devref approach is still okay13:11
dtroyer_zzwas that my comment about the base being too complex?13:12
rtheisI think so13:12
rtheiswe are adding and removing values from lists with set and unset13:13
rtheisthen discussed (a long time ago) overwrite support which seems to be adding to the complication13:13
dtroyer_zzit made perfect sense to me when we first talked about it, and after <time passes> reading that it seemed like we were going to a lot of work to maintain a list of attributes13:13
rtheisit is in the devref13:13
rtheissure13:13
dtroyer_zzthis is one of the tings I want to look at more in the UX study in Barcelona13:14
rtheismaybe we drop the overwrite support and just set and unset keys13:14
rtheisack13:14
rtheisshould we hold these changes until then?13:14
dtroyer_zzI think I also put a comment on a review that wanted to make a new resource for what amounts to a property and pushed back on that too13:14
dtroyer_zzI can't make up my mind!  ;)13:14
rtheis:)13:15
dtroyer_zzit isn't the property list mechanics in this case so much as the overall complexity of the port and other network commands due to the sheer number of options they have13:15
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rtheisok13:16
dtroyer_zzI think these two reviews are OK, I'd like to ponder the devref change a bit more though, still feeling like two ways to remove the list of attributes may be ok too13:16
rtheissounds good13:16
* dtroyer_zz my Perl is showing a bit there13:17
aohuanxuanHi dtroyer_zz, I want to discuss more about "manage/unmanage" of volume and snapshot13:17
dtroyer_zzok13:17
aohuanxuanI think we may need to decide whether we need new options in create command or new command13:17
dtroyer_zzgo ahead13:17
dtroyer_zzwhat is the case for a new comamnd?13:18
aohuanxuannew options make the "create" command more complex13:18
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dtroyer_zzhow will a user know which create command to sue then?13:19
dtroyer_zz*use13:19
dtroyer_zzcomplexity is a warning flag, for sure, but it isn't enough by itself…look at server create for example13:19
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aohuanxuanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/369854/13:20
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aohuanxuansorry13:21
aohuanxuanthe wrong link13:21
aohuanxuanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/363574/13:21
aohuanxuanPatrick East leave some comment here13:21
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dtroyer_zzI read that as his main point is we should have admin-only commands13:23
dtroyer_zzwhich comes up every cycle or two.  that is not practical in many cases13:23
dtroyer_zzalso, what percentage of users of OSC are admin users?  I have no idea, but it isn't small13:23
aohuanxuanthen we can use new admin-only options to replace the admin-only command?13:25
dtroyer_zzyes, we do that in a lot of places already13:26
rtheisaohuanxuan: sometime admin-only options are defined as such by policy files13:26
rtheiswhich makes things even more confusing13:26
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rtheisbut, as dtroyer_zz said we use it a lot ... network commands have examples13:27
dtroyer_zzaohuanxuan: did we answer your question?13:28
aohuanxuanOK, I get it, then I will continue to do the work by adding new options, actually I just worry about the complexity of the "create" command, so I need make sure it13:28
dtroyer_zzthanks, we do need to keep complexity in mind, that is basically my point on the reviews rtheis brought up.13:30
aohuanxuanOk, also, if you have time, could you talk about the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355701/ with me13:31
dtroyer_zzthe error state one?13:31
aohuanxuanYes13:31
aohuanxuanI have ask for help to Cinder team for this one and I get some explain about the error13:32
dtroyer_zzthe whole idea of being able to set an error state (basically just a db change) from a REST API sits funny with me.  that feels like something that should only be done very carefully, and with the cinder-manage command13:33
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dtroyer_zzI recall Nova team talking about moving all of nova-manage into the REST API (years ago) and it hasn't happened.  Is cinder thinking that too?13:33
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aohuanxuanuh , I do not know, I have not ask for it, maybe I will ask them next time13:35
dtroyer_zzalso, in some other places we have preferred to use explicit state options, so this might be instead —available|—error instead of --state13:35
dtroyer_zzusually those are booleans though13:36
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dtroyer_zzok, I may have just talked myself out of suggesting that :)13:36
aohuanxuan--available|--error looks nice, but maybe we can set more than two status13:36
dtroyer_zzright, we would add more options as required, but I think our actual pattern is usually to use —status <value> when it is not boolean, so never mind13:37
aohuanxuansorry I type English a little slowly :(13:38
dtroyer_zzno worries13:38
aohuanxuanso we can still use --status <value> in this patch?13:38
dtroyer_zzyes, I think it is good as is13:39
aohuanxuanOK, get it, thanks :)13:39
dtroyer_zzI'm still unsure about setting error, but not enough to make you remove it13:40
aohuanxuanyes, I am afraid maybe someone will use it in some case13:40
dtroyer_zzlets talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353931/ if we are done with the last one13:41
aohuanxuanYes13:41
aohuanxuanI also want to ask it to you13:41
dtroyer_zzwe need to maintain backward-compatibility, so the <volume> positional argument still needs to be accepted and used, but not documented13:41
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dtroyer_zzor rather, properly deprecated13:42
aohuanxuanOk13:42
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aohuanxuanBut I want to make sure can we also remove the   <volume> positional argument in the v1 command13:43
aohuanxuanand add "--volume"13:44
dtroyer_zzyes, please make them act the same as much as possible13:44
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aohuanxuanYes, I will do it, I saw there is also a default value of volume_id in the v1 API, I will figure out it13:45
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dtroyer_zzok, thank you13:46
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dtroyer_zzreedip brought up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357973/ in -sdks earlier this morning, he doesn't appear to be online now though13:46
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dtroyer_zzI don't think we want 'router add gateway' because gateway isn't a resource, and the gateway is really an attribute of the router13:47
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rtheisyeah, this one is tricky13:48
dtroyer_zzthis is one I haven't looked at in detail yet, rtheis, how do you feel about tangchen's 'router set —gateway <>' suggestion?13:49
dtroyer_zzas written, 'router gateway' is also a new resource13:49
rtheisthere is also 'router add network' option13:49
dtroyer_zzwhen it is really a reouter attribute13:49
rtheisyeah, it really is a router attribute13:50
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rtheisI'm okay with set13:50
rtheisIt does get a bit complicated with all of the options on the gateway13:50
dtroyer_zzright…these get messy fast13:51
dtroyer_zzI wonder if it would be helpful to have a resource glossary with more detail, such as listing the attributes, and relationships?13:52
rtheisthat would be nice13:52
dtroyer_zz"routers have ports", "routers have gateways, gateways have attributes (but are not resources?)" etc13:52
dtroyer_zzI know the concepts, but not necessarily how Neutron has modelled them13:53
dtroyer_zzI'm sure others are in that boat13:53
rtheiswe could add to the command doc for each resource13:53
rtheisRight now there is a small description of the resource13:53
dtroyer_zzyes, that is absolutely the right place for that13:53
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dtroyer_zzand I want to encourage those docs to get more information in them anyway13:54
dtroyer_zzdang, almost out of time…13:54
dtroyer_zz#topic bugs13:54
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dtroyer_zzI want to squeeze this in yet13:54
dtroyer_zzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/162574513:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1625745 in python-openstackclient "floating ip column name change breaks grenade" [High,Confirmed]13:55
dtroyer_zzI think this is due to the nova-net/neutron differences in column names13:55
dtroyer_zzand was exposed when DevStack changed default from nova-net to neutron13:55
dtroyer_zzthe tl;dr is that we need to do some column mapping here to stay back-compatible13:56
dtroyer_zzI'm not sure how to fix this for what column name to output, the bug is specificall on the input name though and that is easy13:57
dtroyer_zzanyway, just wanted to raise it here for something we need to consider13:57
rtheisI was planning to bring this up as well13:57
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rtheisI subscribed tangchen for his awareness...  maybe he has time to look at it13:57
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dtroyer_zzI think we need to talk about our approach to column names overall, and if we should get strict on them and require code changes when fields are added for example13:58
dtroyer_zza good session/workroom topic13:58
rtheisI agree13:59
dtroyer_zzrtheis: will you be in Barcelona?13:59
rtheisthis become more important with SDK13:59
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rtheisI will13:59
dtroyer_zz\o/13:59
dtroyer_zzaohuanxuan: will you be there also?13:59
aohuanxuanyes, I will too :)13:59
dtroyer_zzI think tangchen has his visa?13:59
aohuanxuannot yet13:59
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aohuanxuanmaybe need some more time14:00
dtroyer_zzhrm, ok14:00
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dtroyer_zzoh, we're out of time… thanks everyone!14:00
rtheisthanks14:00
dtroyer_zz#endmeeting14:00
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aohuanxuanthanks :)14:00
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vgridnev#startmeeting sahara14:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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vgridnevo/14:01
NikitaKonovalovhi14:01
mionkinhi14:01
zemuvierhello14:01
tellesnobregao/14:01
shuyingyao/14:01
vgridnev#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda14:01
elmikoo/14:01
esikachevhi14:02
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toskyups, it's the "other week"14:02
raissahi14:02
vgridnev#topic News / updates14:03
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mionkinI was working on updating docs14:04
vgridnevwe will have RC2 this week I think / or at the beginning of next one, no sure currently14:04
toskytrying to nail down the issue with the networking configuration in tempest-style tests14:05
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vgridnevthere is a draft schedule of summit work rooms: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true14:06
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vgridnevso, our working days are wed, + friday14:06
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zemuviercontinue working on cli-tests, now i'm trying to fix new job for vanilla to load the cluster14:06
esikachevdevstacks on sahara-ci hosts have been reinstalled, patches in sahara-test have been updated. working on stability sahara-ci, preparing for updating 43 lab and sahara-ci host  to xenial14:07
tellesnobregaI mostly worked on reviews and got a patch to allow usage of rhel714:08
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vgridnevtellesnobrega, is it possible somehow to enable tests for rhel7 ?14:08
vgridnevjust wondering14:08
toskythat's a good question14:09
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shuyingyaI try to learn how to add an option in tempest.conf and finishing the test of plugin update.14:09
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toskyvgridnev: now it's possible to get a developer access to RHEL images for free, but I don't remember all the conditions14:09
tellesnobreganot sure, the patch I put up was for creating rhel7 images14:09
toskythe other possibility is to set up a CI here internally, but we would need to discuss about the resources14:10
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tellesnobregatosky, +114:10
toskyI mean, it's not impossible, but it's not happening tomorrow :)14:10
tellesnobrega:)14:11
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egaffordo/ (sorry for lateness)14:11
vgridnevtosky, sure, it's absolutely reasonable that setting up CI is really hard task in many aspects14:12
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toskybut let's see14:14
toskyegafford: if you check the logs, we were talking about testing RHEL 7 somehow on the gates14:14
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vgridnevbut we can push current implementation, if it works. tellesnobrega it works, right?14:15
vgridnevif we will have another CI that would be amazing, but actually I was just wondering14:16
tellesnobregait works, i'm just doing some final testing on image creation to approve that patch14:17
toskyyeah, it works; most of the testing for centos7 applies, there are few bits which differes but they are minimal14:17
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vgridnev#topic Open discussion14:18
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vgridnevjudging by our last meeting I put a draft topics to etherpad14:18
vgridnev#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ocata-summit14:18
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vgridnev#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true14:19
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toskyI guess you already checked: are there some talks which overlaps with the two sessions on Wednesday?14:20
egaffordvgridnev: elmiko wanted to make it clear that his offer of a skype session about v2 API during the CM is still on the table BTW.14:21
elmiko+114:21
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elmikojust keep me posted about when you might have the discussion and i will make sure i'm ready to go =)14:21
toskyso better in some afternoon14:22
vgridnevegafford, but we have working session at wed at 5:55 - 6:35 pm seems like a reasonable time for elmiko to attend14:22
elmikotosky: yeah, that makes sense14:22
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elmikovgridnev: +114:22
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egaffordvgridnev: Ah, yes; that is.14:23
vgridnevuh, I forgot to say my updates: I've got a visa, tickets to Spain, so yeah, I'm going to summit with 100% probability14:24
tosky\o/14:24
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elmiko\o/14:25
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egafford\o/14:25
egaffordSo much \o/.14:25
mionkin_\o/14:25
vgridnevokay, okay. :)14:25
elmikoand maybe a little o(^â–½^)o ?14:26
tellesnobrega\o/14:26
NikitaKonovalovMy visa is in progress. So I'll be there with 99% probability as well14:27
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NikitaKonovalov@esikachev are you going?14:27
esikachevyep14:27
esikachevi have a visa :)14:27
toskygood, good :)14:28
esikachev;)14:28
elmikonice14:29
elmikoi'm sad i won't be there in person =(14:29
tellesnobregame too :(14:29
vgridnevokay, do we have something specific that we can discuss today? Maybe we can distribute topics on working rooms, and have not seen is there some good talks which we can attend14:30
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egaffordelmiko: We'll miss you (and tmckay, and crobertsrh)14:33
elmikoi just hope the conf wifi is good ;)14:33
egaffordelmiko: Start making burnt offerings to The Network now.14:34
vgridnevokay, if there is nothing we can discuss, we can end for today14:36
elmikohaha14:36
elmikoegafford: i have an old 16-port 10base-T switch....14:37
vgridnevjust one more reminder, please put your topics to ether pad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ocata-summit . Also if you are willing to lead a session, don't hesitate and put your name in session description14:39
egaffordvgridnev: How many folks are we likely to have there? tosky, NikitaKonovalov, you, me, ?14:39
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egaffordJust trying to get a sense of whether we should double up sessions or each try to run one.14:40
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vgridnevtosky, NikitaKonovalov vgridnev esikachev egafford14:40
egaffordCool.14:40
esikachevok14:40
egaffordHopefully we can get some remote tellesnobrega and some remote elmiko.14:41
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elmiko+114:41
tellesnobregaI just need a link, I will try to attend all sessions14:41
vgridnevthere are few other folks who were willing to discuss something around swift-hadoop integration, but I think that we can discuss that at friday's CM14:41
vgridnevok, if there are not other topics we can cover, let's end for today14:44
vgridnevthanks all14:44
vgridnevUh, forgot14:45
vgridnev:(14:45
tellesnobregathanks vgadiraj14:45
tellesnobregathanks vgridnev14:45
esikachevthanks14:45
vgridnevegafford, do you have plans for docs in newton?14:45
vgridnevcan we prepare one super commit to aggregate all updates to docs?14:46
vgridnev:( egafford seems not responding14:48
* egafford is here; sorry.14:48
egafford(3 meetings atm. :/ )14:48
egaffordI can do that at EOD if you're planning to cut a release tomorrow.14:48
egaffordvgridnev: Do you think folks would mind if I fixed any last doc patch issues? I can leave them as authors; I'm not in it for the glory. :)14:49
vgridnevegafford, yep, I think that makes sense14:49
egaffordCool; I'll fix up everything that's outstanding and bundle it up into one giant stable/newton commit by EOD.14:50
vgridnevegafford, we can prepare a commit till the end of the next day,14:51
egaffordOkay, sounds good.14:51
vgridnevsince I can make a cut at the late evening of Friday14:51
tellesnobregaegafford, if you need a hand, just ping me14:51
egaffordAck.14:51
egaffordtellesnobrega: Will do! There are really just a tiny number of outstanding issues.14:52
vgridnevok, thanks egafford14:52
vgridnevso I hope we can end now14:53
vgridnev:)14:53
egaffordThink we can.14:53
vgridnev#endmeeting14:53
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 22 15:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:00
haleybhi15:00
mlavalleo/15:00
tidwellrhi15:00
mlavalle#chair tidwellr carl_baldwin15:00
openstackCurrent chairs: carl_baldwin mlavalle tidwellr15:00
mlavalle#topic Annoucements15:01
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mlavalleWe are in RC-1, I believe15:01
jschwarzhello15:02
njohnsto_o/15:02
mlavalleAny other annoucements from the team?15:03
carl_baldwinRC-2?15:03
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haleybyes, rc1 was cut, rc2 only if we find really broken critical bug15:03
haleybbut neutron doesn't have those :)15:04
mlavalleso welcome to Ocata, right?15:04
carl_baldwinmaster is now Ocata, yes.15:05
mlavalleok, moving on15:05
mlavalle#topic Bugs15:05
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mlavalleWe have a good list today15:06
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mlavalleFirst up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162261615:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1622616 in neutron "delete_subnet update_port appears racey with ipam" [High,In progress]15:07
mlavalleLast night when I put together the agenda, this one was critical15:07
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mlavalleihar lowered it to High 3 hours ago15:08
carl_baldwinmlavalle: Downgraded it. Several fixes have merged to help the situation.15:08
mlavalleyes, I can see that15:08
mlavalleare we expecting more work  / patches15:08
mlavalle?15:08
carl_baldwinWell, I think it is still racy. Most of the work was to alleviate the pressure. But, if more pressure comes up, I think the race is still there.15:09
mlavalleok, let's keep an eye on it15:10
mlavalleNext one is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154098315:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1540983 in OpenStack-Gate "Gate failures for neutron in test_dualnet_multi_prefix_slaac" [Undecided,Expired]15:10
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mlavalleOleg is working on it, trying to reproduce15:11
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mlavalleany other comments?15:12
carl_baldwinIt is hard without it running in the gate.15:13
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carl_baldwinBest of luck to Oleg. Glad he's on it.15:14
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mlavalleOK, let's move on15:14
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/155699115:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1556991 in neutron "Isolated metadata will not work if ipv6 subnet is created first" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin)15:14
carl_baldwinI happened across this one.15:15
carl_baldwinAssigned to me just because I restored and rebased the patch.15:15
carl_baldwinI want to ping xiaohhui about it.15:15
carl_baldwinI was hoping he might be around but I don't see him.15:16
carl_baldwinThat's all.15:16
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mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157012215:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1570122 in neutron "ipv6 prefix delegated subnets are not accessable external of the router they are attached." [High,Confirmed]15:17
carl_baldwinYeah.15:19
carl_baldwinI happened across this one yesterday too.15:19
carl_baldwinIt was triaged early as Medium and so it never caught our attention.15:19
carl_baldwinI think this one is easily a High.15:19
carl_baldwinI feel badly that we've let it slip so long.15:19
carl_baldwinActually, I was hoping xiaohhui could look at this one too. But, it might be me.15:20
mlavalleif you have too many, let me know15:20
carl_baldwinNot yet, but I will let you know.15:21
mlavalleI may need guidance, but I'll try to help15:21
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carl_baldwinI'll get to this bug fix as soon as docs are looking better for routed networks.15:21
mlavalleok15:21
carl_baldwindocs is currently my highest priority unless a critical Newton bug needs more attention.15:21
mlavalleI was worried last night when updating the agenda. I got the feeling you have too much15:21
mlavalleNext up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/160954015:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1609540 in neutron "Deleting csnat port fails due to no fixed ips" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Carl Baldwin (carl-baldwin)15:22
mlavalleEearlier today, I tried to check this one in logstash. But it seems I have a problem running logstash15:23
mlavallemaybe something with my browser15:23
mlavalleI get: "No results. There were no results because no indices were found that match your selected"15:24
haleybmlavalle: oleg added a note that the test is being skipped15:24
carl_baldwinI think we may not be seeing it because of Oleg's comment.15:24
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carl_baldwin... that the tests are disabled15:24
carl_baldwinhaleyb: you're too quick15:24
haleybit's better than being asleep at these meetings :)15:25
mlavallelol15:25
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carl_baldwinI wonder if we should propose reenabling them on a trial basis now that Ocata is open.15:25
* carl_baldwin zzzzzzzzz15:25
carl_baldwinWhat, what?15:25
carl_baldwin;)15:25
mlavallewho has the power to re-anble thme?15:25
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carl_baldwinI think it is just posting a patch like the one that disabled them. I think there is a link to that.15:26
haleybwe could propose a revert to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275457/ to re-enable15:26
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275457/15:26
haleybi must be closer geographically to freenode :)15:26
mlavalleok, go ahead15:27
carl_baldwinhaleyb: I thought I'd at the # link to it.15:27
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mlavallehaleyb: ^^^^15:27
carl_baldwinhaleyb: You'd better do it. I'll be too slow.15:27
mlavalleNext up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/159932915:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1599329 in neutron "Potential regression on handing over DHCP addresses to VMs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)15:28
mlavalleThis one had a fix last night15:28
mlavalleearlier today I also tried to search for this one in logstash15:28
mlavalleand had the same problem mentioned above15:28
mlavalleI can follow up with it later to confirm it was fixed15:29
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mlavalleany other comments?15:29
carl_baldwinNot from me.15:30
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mlavalleNext up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/161048315:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1610483 in neutron "Pluggable IPAM rollback mechanism is not robust" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aliaksandr Dziarkach (aliaksandr-dziarkach)15:30
carl_baldwinI don't have an update here.15:32
mlavalleThere is an update that it is in progress15:32
mlavalleI guess we wait for the patchset15:32
carl_baldwinLooks like he manually changed status to In Progress. So, yeah.15:32
mlavalleok, next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162200215:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1622002 in neutron "dhcp_release6 can be called when it is not present" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:33
mlavallehaleyb: any comments here?15:34
haleybThere was a patch merged to have a better log message and update the relnote15:34
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haleybi'm still working on an update, but basically there is an unwritten reliance on the user installing the latest dnsmasq to get dhcpv6 fully working15:35
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mlavallehaleyb: thanks for the update15:37
haleybcarl_baldwin: would you consider that high^^15:37
haleybi guess it is since i tagged the bug that way15:37
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carl_baldwinhaleyb: sure.15:38
carl_baldwinI think it is very important to at least communicate the issue clearly.15:38
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haleybhopefully the relnote change helped, can't find the link15:39
haleybhttps://review.openstack.org/37283415:40
carl_baldwinhaleyb: I'll' have another look15:41
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haleybthanks15:41
mlavalleok, last one in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162407915:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624079 in neutron "KeyError on "subnet_dhcp_ip = subnet_to_interface_ip[subnet.id]"" [High,Confirmed]15:42
carl_baldwinI looked briefly but didn't have much time to really dig in.15:42
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mlavallecarl_baldwin: I'll try to take a look today or tomorrow15:43
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mlavalleany other comments?15:44
carl_baldwinI'll revisit the bug report today to see if anything else jumps out at me.15:45
carl_baldwinNothing else from me.15:45
mlavalleok, moving on15:46
* carl_baldwin just noticed there is an ovn work-around posted. That might give some clues.15:46
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mlavalle#topic Routed Networks15:46
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mlavalleanything to share with the team on this topic?15:47
carl_baldwinI posted a review to add API docs.15:47
carl_baldwinI strapped myself to my desk and wouldn't let myself leave until I got through it.15:48
carl_baldwin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374434/15:48
carl_baldwinI might have missed something. Please review it if you can.15:48
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mlavalleok15:49
mlavalleLet's move on then15:49
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carl_baldwinStill iterating on the rest of the docs. That's all.15:50
mlavalle#topic BGP Dynamic Routing15:50
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mlavalletidwellr: any updates?15:50
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tidwellrnothing today15:51
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mlavalleThanks15:51
mlavalle#topic FWaaS15:51
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mlavallenjohnsto_: any updates today?15:52
njohnsto_Nope.  In fact, I thought I removed FWaaS from the agenda now that the L3 agent extension work is done.15:52
carl_baldwinnjohnsto_: good work15:52
njohnsto_As soon as Newton is good and cut I want to work with boden to move the l3 agent extension code to neutron_lib15:52
mlavalleyou did. I am just making sure that's what you want15:52
njohnsto_but other than that, it's all good :-)15:53
mlavalleso it won't be a fixed point in the agenda moving forward15:53
mlavalle#Open Agenda15:53
njohnsto_yep15:53
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mlavalleAny other topics to be discussed with this team?15:54
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mlavalleok, thanks for attending15:55
mlavalleHave a nice day15:55
mlavalle#endmeeting15:55
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carl_baldwinThanks!15:55
* cdent waves at mlavalle 15:55
* mlavalle waves back at cdent ;-)15:56
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cdent#startmeeting api-wg16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 22 16:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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elmikohi16:00
cdentoh you're here, I checked for you a while ago in another channel, and you're weren't there. I was gonna tell you that I'm on an internal call (still).16:00
cdentSo I've got partial attention16:01
cdent#chair elmiko16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: cdent elmiko16:01
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elmikooh, oops. i must have missed the ping16:01
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cdentIs there anyone here besides elmiko and cdent for the api-wg?16:02
elmikocdent: do we have any topics for today?16:02
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scottdaHi16:02
cdentI know that Piet wanted to talk about the usability test, but I didn't have a chance to get back to him about that16:03
cdenthi scottda16:03
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pietHiya16:03
pietAnyone there?16:04
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elmikohi scottda and piet16:04
elmiko=)16:04
pietDid you want to chat about the usability study in Barcelona16:05
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cdentpiet: we should talk about that, but unfortunately I'm double booked right now, so my attention is very split. I assume you saw my response on the os-dev?16:06
pietWas it in response to one of my emails?16:06
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gouthamr_afkHi16:07
pietLet's plan on scheduling another meeting to specifically cover the usability at the summit for the API WG16:07
cdentpiet: yes, my main point were queries about it being openstackclient focused, and if you had a contact there, in addition to me16:08
pietTwo studies: one API focused and the other OSC focused16:08
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cdentelmiko: can you take it from here? Sorry, but I sadly need to focus on this internal call :(16:10
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elmikocdent: sure things, seems pretty slow anyway16:11
cdentthanks16:11
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elmikook, anything further we need to discuss on that piet?16:11
pietelmiko At some point, we need to meet as a group to identify goals for the study along with the tasks that should be completed16:12
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elmikosounds good16:13
pietelmiko We'll also need an environment to use during the test16:13
pietLemme schedule a meeting with the group16:13
elmikook, which group are we talking about (i missed the email for context)16:13
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elmiko#topic guidelines16:20
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elmikohttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z16:20
elmikooops16:21
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z16:21
elmikothere we go16:21
elmikook, only 1 open currently. i just updated it with the language cdent proposed16:21
elmikoany eyes on that review would be helpful =)16:22
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/36446016:22
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elmiko#topic APIImpact16:25
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elmikoany reviews that folks would like to highlight?16:25
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elmikoi'll take silence as a no ;)16:29
elmiko#topic bug review16:29
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elmiko#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg16:29
elmikoso, thankfully we haven't added any new bugs16:29
elmikothere is one in progress, addressed by my review16:29
elmikoif anyone is interested in tackling a bug, please mention it or just make yourself the owner on the bug page16:30
elmikonot owner, assignee16:30
elmikoany questions about the bugs can be addressed now, or in the openstack-sdks channel16:30
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elmiko#topic open mic16:34
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elmikoanyone have a topic?16:34
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gouthamrelmiko: do we have a fb/wr in the summit?16:35
gouthamrs/do/will16:35
elmikofb?16:35
gouthamrelmiko: fish bowl/working session..16:35
elmikooh, right16:35
elmikoi think cdent will be running a BoF session16:35
cdenti haven't heard back yet if we got the space16:36
elmikoso, no real fb/wr for the group16:36
gouthamrokay..16:36
elmikooh, gotcha. thanks!16:36
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elmikogouthamr: from what i've been reading the space is very limited for working groups16:37
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elmikowell, if there are not other topics to discuss we can end the meeting and get back almost 20 minutes of the day =)16:39
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gouthamrelmiko: thanks..16:40
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elmikook then, thanks all!16:40
elmiko#endmeeting16:40
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docaedoCourtesy ping for app-catalog meeting zynzel kfox1111 kzaitsev_mb igormarnat_ mfedosin sskripnick olaph17:00
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kzaitsev_mbthese days I have super looooong meetings and I'm still on one of those and I hardly have any updates from the last time17:02
docaedokzaitsev_mb: yeah I figured this would be very short - just need to be reviewing the glare integration work, and I don't have any specific questions17:02
docaedo(and anyway, anything specific would be asked through review)17:03
docaedokzaitsev_mb: sorry you've got super loooooong meetings :)  Carry on, and I will keep trying to get through the local testing of this so I can give feedback17:03
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mfedosino/17:04
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kzaitsev_mboh, I plan to get back to my unite-dashboard work and see if there are any issues since I left it for all the release hassle )17:04
docaedomfedosin: we will probably skip meeting today unless you have something you want to discuss and have logged in meeting minutes?17:05
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sskripnick>_>17:06
mfedosinI think sskripnick has several questions17:06
docaedoah ok17:06
docaedo#startmeeting app-catalog17:06
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:06
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sskripnickhi. sorry im late a bit17:06
docaedono prob17:06
docaedomain things to discuss today:17:06
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/glare-work17:06
docaedoand the puppet deployment stuff here:17:06
docaedo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359029/17:06
docaedosskripnick: please go ahead with any questions17:07
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mfedosinsskripnick: can you tell us about current glare puppet status?17:07
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sskripnickim not sure if i have any questions. i have only update. so yes, there are a lot of patches for you =)17:08
sskripnickmfedosin: glare puppet is waiting for glare deb packages17:08
sskripnickapp-catalog puppet is seems okay with pip17:09
sskripnickalso there is some difficulties with murano artifact (name vs display_name)17:09
mfedosinyep... we have to hasten them.17:09
docaedopip would be fine for app catalog deployment, getting debs should not be a blocker17:10
mfedosinyep, display_name was my question as well17:10
sskripnickso if we decide to have display_name in base type, I need to do some changes in UI code17:10
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sskripnickdocaedo: we need debs for glare puppets17:10
mfedosinin short: murano package has two attributes17:11
mfedosinname and display_name17:11
sskripnickdocaedo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373805/17:11
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mfedosinname is common for all artifact and it's located in base AT17:11
mfedosinfor all artifact types, except murano, name is shown in app-catalog output17:11
docaedosskripnick: ah ok, thanks for sharing that, hadn't seen it17:12
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sskripnickmurano package need to have name (or display_name) and "fqdn".17:12
mfedosinso, for example - name for heat template is "F5 BIG-IP VE Onboard"17:12
sskripnickthey decided to use "name" as "fqdn" and add "display_name"17:12
mfedosinbut for murano it is com.example.apache.ApacheHttpServer17:12
mfedosinand display_name is Apache HTTP Server17:13
mfedosinand here we have inconsistency17:13
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sskripnickWe have "name" and "package_name" in assets.yaml, but they want to change it. Like have "name" and "display_name" for all artifact types17:13
mfedosinif we show 'name' for app-catalog users, then murano packages will look weird17:13
docaedoCouldn't the UI just switch what is displayed if the type is murano?17:13
sskripnicki think it would be the easiest17:14
mfedosindocaedo: yes, it's a workaround17:14
sskripnickleft all as is, and use special case for special project17:14
docaedoI would suggest that, easy path :)17:15
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mfedosinbut anyway, it leads to confusion between two attributes17:15
sskripnickbut I still don't understand why they wont left name and package_name as it was in assets.yam17:15
sskripnick+1 for not breaking all types, and break only murano17:16
mfedosinsskripnick: they don't look for easy ways17:16
mfedosindo they? :)17:16
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sskripnicklooks like this way is easy for them17:16
sskripnickbut not easy for us17:16
mfedosindocaedo: so, you suggest to workaround this behaviour for murano17:17
mfedosinand do not touch anything else17:17
docaedomfedosin: yes, but I am also suggesting the workaround only happen in app catalog UI, since it's just a display thing, should be low effort17:18
sskripnickyes, it is only for app catalog and horizon plugin17:18
docaedocool, then nobody else has to worry, murano can do what murano wants, and we just make it look pretty17:19
sskripnickprobably we should make display_name in murano immutable, not null, and required on activate17:20
docaedooh that's a good point since we'll require it17:20
mfedosinit's required on activate17:20
mfedosinonly one thing - it's mutable17:21
kzaitsev_mbif there is something you need my attention to — pls ping me =) I get notifications that you're discussing murano but can't really go deep into the conversation now =( So I rely on your decision making skills guys =)))17:21
mfedosinbut it's okay I think17:21
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docaedokzaitsev_mb: no problem, we're just talking about dropping murano from the app-catalog because it's too much trouble17:21
docaedokzaitsev_mb: kidding! no problems, we have it covered17:22
sskripnickkzaitsev_mb: i'd like to ask you to check if http://apps.r-ci.tk/ works for you17:22
sskripnickkzaitsev_mb: i've added murano storage support17:22
kzaitsev_mb=)17:22
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docaedosskripnick: it works for me and is looking really great17:23
kzaitsev_mbsskripnick: would certainly do that =)17:23
mfedosinwe definitely should play with new app-catalog17:23
mfedosinsskripnick: great work!17:24
sskripnickthanks ^_^17:24
sskripnickso thats all from my side17:24
docaedosskripnick: it's really looking good17:25
docaedoI don't have anything else to cover today - only issue is I need to make time to get any feedback, and then start focusing on deployment with infra (when debs are ready)17:25
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docaedois anyone staying on top of the glare debs? Just want to know what the next steps we need at this point17:26
mfedosindocaedo: yep17:27
mfedosiniudovichenko is working on it17:27
mfedosinwe just need to release glare asap to make it work17:27
docaedocool - then I will pay attention to that, and ask you folks to ping me on app-catalog channel if/when you need my attention17:28
docaedoI'm excited and still think we can pull this off before Barcelona :)17:28
docaedoand hopefully sskripnick will stay working on app catalog after this :)17:28
mfedosinI hope so :)17:29
docaedook anything else before we end?17:29
mfedosinnothing from my side17:29
mfedosindocaedo: thank you for your answers17:30
docaedothank you all for the great work - hopefully I'll see you all in Barcelona!17:30
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docaedotalk to you later!17:31
docaedo#endmeeting17:31
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shamail#startmeeting auc19:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 22 19:01:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
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maishskGood evening all19:01
shamailHi everyone!  Who’s here for the AUC Recognition WG?19:01
shamail#chair maishsk19:01
openstackCurrent chairs: maishsk shamail19:01
shamailToday’s agenda:19:02
shamail#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/AUCRecognition#Meeting_Information19:02
shamail#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-09-01-19.00.html19:02
shamail#topic Review status of open action items19:02
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shamail#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/auc/2016/auc.2016-09-01-19.00.html19:02
maishskseems that it just us shamail :)19:02
shamailmaishsk: Does it make sense to just talk over email instead of this meeting?19:03
shamailThat way we can CC Megan too19:03
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shamailAll action items belong to the three of us anyway19:03
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maishskI think that we can do it over email - if no-one else is here19:03
shamailI’ll end this and start an email later this evening19:03
shamailI agree19:03
shamailGood news though19:04
maishsk?19:04
shamailRealized that the next UC meeting is 10/3 or 10/17 so we don’t need to rush to put together the readout by next Monday :)19:04
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maishskphew19:04
maishskthat is good news19:04
shamailWe still should try to finish by next week so we can let Tom know our final thoughts19:04
shamailYeah19:04
maishskagreed19:04
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shamailAwesome19:04
shamailTalk to you soon!19:04
shamailHave a good night19:05
maishskYou too19:05
shamail#endmeeting19:05
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SWDevAngelHi shamail - sorry was a bit late but looks like you've got it all under control (as usual!) :)20:05
SWDevAngelAnyway, looking forward to seeing you in ONE MONTH! Yaaaay! (unless you're planning on going to OpenStack SEA?20:05
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