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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS folks | 03:59 |
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| chandanc_ | Hello All | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 21 04:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #chair SridarK | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK njohnston | 04:00 |
| njohnston | Hello everybody! | 04:00 |
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| SarathMekala | Hi all O/ | 04:00 |
| SridarK | Hi all, we can do a quick mtg today unless there are some issues | 04:00 |
| yushiro | OK. | 04:00 |
| SridarK | #topic FWaaS v2 | 04:01 |
| yushiro | aloha | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:01 | |
| SridarK | We are on to Ocata now | 04:01 |
| yushiro | Yes | 04:02 |
| SridarK | There are some bugs that we are fixing and those can be targetting for stable/newton as well as njohnston did today | 04:02 |
| xgerman | o/ | 04:03 |
| yushiro | +1 | 04:03 |
| SridarK | we can run thru our initial targets for Ocata | 04:03 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: the CLI is possibly among our first targets | 04:03 |
| njohnston | indeed | 04:04 |
| yushiro | SridarK: Yes. | 04:04 |
| SridarK | we can close out some of the discussions and details on the email thread/etherpad | 04:04 |
| SridarK | with that u should be able to close out some of the final points and push for approval | 04:04 |
| yushiro | Yes. We need to determine a 'command format' for fwaas v2. | 04:05 |
| SridarK | shall we add comments/discuss on the etherpad | 04:05 |
| yushiro | Yes, I'd like to give comments about 'command format' and 'the result of list command'. | 04:07 |
| yushiro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-v2-cli | 04:07 |
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| yushiro | SridarK: Thanks for your attention. | 04:07 |
| SridarK | possibly we could take the next 2 days to add our comments so yushiro can move forward | 04:08 |
| SridarK | we can also discuss more on openstack-fwaas | 04:08 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:08 |
| yushiro | Sure. ++++1 | 04:08 |
| SarathMekala | +1 | 04:08 |
| SridarK | :-) | 04:08 |
| SridarK | ok good lets move fwd | 04:08 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: & SarathMekala: on L2 - what are things we will need to focus on | 04:09 |
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| SridarK | are there areas where the team can help out on | 04:10 |
| chandanc_ | SridarK, I worked a bit on the ip conntrack patch and test cases this week | 04:10 |
| SarathMekala | we will need to get the code reviews done.. and fix the UT cases | 04:10 |
| chandanc_ | will be posting the update soon | 04:10 |
| njohnston | chandanc_: Looking forward to it! | 04:10 |
| xgerman | +1 | 04:11 |
| SridarK | ok good, i think u will need to push for help on the neutron patches | 04:11 |
| SridarK | i think once u have some core attention that shd move fwd quickly | 04:11 |
| chandanc_ | As soon as i am done with the UT update will start aski9ng for reviews | 04:11 |
| chandanc_ | sure SridarK | 04:11 |
| SarathMekala | sure | 04:11 |
| SridarK | ok great | 04:11 |
| SridarK | i think once we have this done, we will be in a good position to get the L2Agent and FWaaS L2 driver pieces in | 04:12 |
| SridarK | anything else u would like to discuss on this area ? | 04:12 |
| yushiro | Is paddu here? | 04:13 |
| chandanc_ | Nothing more for now | 04:13 |
| SridarK | ok moving on to L2Agent | 04:13 |
| SridarK | yushiro: would u like to discuss any thing at this point | 04:13 |
| SridarK | padkrish said he will not be able to make the mtg today, he was trying to work thru a PoC based on last weeks discussions | 04:14 |
| yushiro | SridarK: I and paddu decided to follow L3-agent mechanism. I'm trying to verify it now on my local env. | 04:14 |
| SridarK | yushiro: ok | 04:15 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 04:15 |
| yushiro | SridarK: so, today is nothing to inform. I'll contact to paddu later. | 04:15 |
| yushiro | s/contact/send e-mail | 04:15 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: sounds good | 04:16 |
| SridarK | njohnston: many thx for jumping on multiple fronts with doc changes, infra stuff and all | 04:16 |
| njohnston | sure thing | 04:16 |
| yushiro | njohnston; Thanks!! | 04:16 |
| njohnston | trying to keep us in the stadium :-) | 04:16 |
| xgerman | thanks | 04:16 |
| SridarK | and u are doing an awesome job on that front many thanks | 04:17 |
| njohnston | I have more docs changes and work in mind coming up soon, Ihave an ongoing conversation with Sam-I-Am about that | 04:17 |
| SridarK | njohnston: pls let us know how we can help | 04:17 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Thanks! | 04:17 |
| SridarK | pls free to assign some piece of the doc work to me, happy to help on that | 04:17 |
| yushiro | njohnston: me too. please let me know if you need some help :) | 04:17 |
| njohnston | SridarK yushiro: Thanks, will do! | 04:18 |
| njohnston | I'm really just trying to test out the newton release as it is and file any bugs I find before release time so they can be backported | 04:19 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Thanks for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373565/ that is a good one | 04:19 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes, i will add some UT around that then it should be ready to go | 04:19 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Is that a candidate for backporting? | 04:19 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i think it is a simple fix and worth a shot | 04:20 |
| SridarK | FW rule updates have an issue, if they are associated to a policy | 04:20 |
| SridarK | will be good to get that in | 04:20 |
| njohnston | SridarK: Super, so I just added the 'newton-rc-potential' tag to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1623953 per ihrachys's instructions. | 04:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623953 in neutron "Updating firewall rule that is associated with a policy causes KeyError" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Sridar Kandaswamy (skandasw) | 04:21 |
| SridarK | ok great | 04:21 |
| SridarK | thx njohnston | 04:21 |
| yushiro | njohnston, SridarK: Hi, could you check this bug is necessary to backport or not? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1623102 | 04:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623102 in neutron "FWaaSv2 - Error message about 'Rule association' is wrong" [Undecided,New] | 04:22 |
| njohnston | If we can get a fix in quickly, then I think it is worth a try | 04:23 |
| xgerman | +1 seems low risk | 04:23 |
| SridarK | yushiro: i can take a look into that | 04:23 |
| SridarK | unless u are looking already | 04:24 |
| yushiro | xgerman: yeah :) | 04:24 |
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| yushiro | OK, thanks. oh, sorry. Please go ahead :) | 04:25 |
| SridarK | yushiro: ok i picked that up | 04:25 |
| yushiro | SridarK: If you change 'confirmed', I'll post the patch. | 04:26 |
| yushiro | Thanks | 04:26 |
| SridarK | njohnston: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373535/ | 04:26 |
| SridarK | i just saw that tempest has failed | 04:26 |
| njohnston | it is a timeout failure | 04:27 |
| njohnston | AssertionError: False is not true : Timed out waiting for 172.24.5.8 to become reachable | 04:27 |
| yushiro | yes. | 04:27 |
| njohnston | looks like it is likely an infra issue to me | 04:27 |
| njohnston | I thought I would give it a recheck and then, if it fails again, delve a little deeper | 04:28 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes seems so - i just went thru the logs too dont see any specific fwaas failure | 04:28 |
| SridarK | yes makes sense | 04:28 |
| yushiro | +1 | 04:30 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: one other issue on the v1 and v2 tempest tests | 04:30 |
| njohnston | yes? | 04:31 |
| SridarK | i was thinking thru this a bit more to bifurcate the tests | 04:31 |
| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371749/ | 04:31 |
| SridarK | i was initially thinking maybe we should have one set of tests, but the challenge will be in devstack deployment | 04:32 |
| njohnston | yes, the deployment is exactly why I think we need to have two jobs | 04:32 |
| SridarK | we will essentially need to reset the plugin and agent and restart server and agent | 04:32 |
| SridarK | yes i think this is the best option to deal with that | 04:32 |
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| SridarK | ok have been meaning to sync quickly on that - we are on the same page | 04:33 |
| njohnston | excellent :-) | 04:33 |
| SridarK | xgerman: i think lbaas v1 & v2 could be deployed at the same time - so this may not have been an issue | 04:34 |
| xgerman | lbaas v2 reused the v1 tables so a no-go | 04:35 |
| xgerman | fawns should be fine | 04:35 |
| njohnston | That change depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370274/ so if everyone could review that, I think it will help us to move forward | 04:35 |
| xgerman | fwaas | 04:35 |
| SridarK | ok thx xgerman | 04:35 |
| yushiro | njohnston: I see. | 04:36 |
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| njohnston | it will also help clarify devstack setup | 04:36 |
| reedip | hi | 04:36 |
| yushiro | reedip, hi | 04:36 |
| SridarK | njohnston: we could still keep v1 as default and switch v2 to default as we get the tempest things inline | 04:37 |
| xgerman | we had two jobs v1 and v2 for lbaas | 04:37 |
| SridarK | njohnston: not religious abt this - just a thought, i can see the point of stressing the future | 04:37 |
| xgerman | +1 | 04:37 |
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| SridarK | reedip: hi, hang on for a few mins pls | 04:38 |
| reedip | SridarK : Yes, sure. I just joined the channel luckily :D | 04:38 |
| SridarK | :-) | 04:38 |
| njohnston | I don't think we should wait until we have tempest in line before we start defaulting to v2, especially while tempest is non-voting. and by bifurcating the tempest jobs, that makes it even clearer that the (temporary) state where the tempest jobs are broken is specific to v2 | 04:39 |
| njohnston | I guess my position is based on the belief that we will get the tempest jobs straightened out sooner rather than later, i.e. before the summit | 04:40 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: ok that is fair | 04:40 |
| SridarK | lets go with that | 04:40 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 04:40 |
| xgerman | +1 | 04:41 |
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| SridarK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370731/ | 04:41 |
| reedip | It is associated with https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1623099 | 04:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623099 in neutron "FWaaSv2 - 'firewall_policy_id' is missing in firewall_rule response body" [Undecided,Invalid] | 04:42 |
| SridarK | reedip: i think we are on the same the page that we need to do more than PS1 | 04:42 |
| SridarK | i have some cleanup todo's in the extension attribute as well | 04:42 |
| reedip | SridarK : yes, I do. but I wanted to know how you plan to move ahead ? | 04:42 |
| SridarK | reedip: let me push a PS | 04:43 |
| njohnston | I am confused; reedip, you marked that bug as Invalid. | 04:43 |
| SridarK | i think we can generate the list of policies and push that out | 04:43 |
| SridarK | i will need to tweak the extensions part - i think it should be more clear then | 04:44 |
| reedip | njohnston : Yes, I marked it. Because as per the API for FWaaS V2, we did not need policy ids. But had a discussion with SridarK, and thats when I realized, that I am also confused abit | 04:44 |
| reedip | SridarK : instead of Firewall Policies being None, they should be [] when creating a firewall rule | 04:45 |
| SridarK | reedip: yes we should return a list | 04:45 |
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| reedip | so that the list can be appended | 04:45 |
| reedip | SridarK : I think I can push that ( Instead of None, make it a list ) | 04:45 |
| SridarK | reedip: ok sure, and i can comment or make changes | 04:46 |
| * njohnston understanding dawns | 04:46 | |
| reedip | SridarK : okay, will do so today | 04:46 |
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| yushiro | reedip, thanks for your help. | 04:47 |
| SridarK | reedip: in all fairness, my bad - i had some context on this, and it was a known TODO but i forgot to assign the bug to myself | 04:47 |
| SridarK | reedip: sounds good | 04:47 |
| reedip | SridarK : no worries, I would be glad to help you guys out :) | 04:48 |
| SridarK | reedip: thanks and nice to see u in the fwaas community again too | 04:48 |
| njohnston | +1! | 04:48 |
| reedip | SridarK , njohnston :) | 04:48 |
| SridarK | ok i think those were some of the outstanding issues | 04:49 |
| SridarK | other things folks would like to discuss ? | 04:49 |
| SridarK | on v2 | 04:49 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on | 04:50 |
| SridarK | #topic Open Discussion | 04:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:50 | |
| njohnston | I noticed that this issue came up for security groups, I wondered if we would need to address it as well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371523/ | 04:51 |
| njohnston | the commit message is rather lengthy | 04:51 |
| njohnston | but if we need to implement a similar sanity check, I figured it bears a quick look | 04:52 |
| SridarK | njohnston: one thing is that for L3 since we are in the router ns - may be we are ok | 04:52 |
| SridarK | but for L2 yes | 04:52 |
| SridarK | but good point and bears some investigation to look into this | 04:53 |
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| chandanc_ | +1 | 04:53 |
| chandanc_ | will verify this | 04:53 |
| njohnston | thanks chandanc_! | 04:53 |
| chandanc_ | thanks njohnston for bringing this up :) | 04:54 |
| yushiro | folks, I have 1 announcement. | 04:54 |
| njohnston | please go ahead, yushiro | 04:55 |
| yushiro | 2 weeks later, I'll go abroad for honeymoon from Oct. 1st to Oct. 12th. | 04:55 |
| yushiro | Apologize for such season. | 04:56 |
| njohnston | Congratulations on getting married! | 04:56 |
| SridarK | yushiro: nice and enjoy | 04:56 |
| SarathMekala | Congrats yushiro :) | 04:56 |
| yushiro | I'll push all of my patch within September. | 04:56 |
| chandanc_ | Congrats :) | 04:56 |
| SridarK | Hmm, yushiro got married some time ago, i hope fwaas did not keep him from the honeymoon :-) | 04:57 |
| njohnston | that would be the worst kind of firewall! | 04:57 |
| yushiro | njohnston, SridarK, SarathMekala , chandanc_ : many thanks. I'm so glad to meet this team members :-) | 04:57 |
| SridarK | :-) | 04:58 |
| SridarK | yushiro: we will push to get the CLI inputs in quickly so u can be done quickly | 04:59 |
| SridarK | yushiro: pls dont worry abt this, have fun and we do have time | 04:59 |
| yushiro | SridarK: OK, thanks for your help :) | 04:59 |
| SridarK | 1 min | 04:59 |
| SridarK | ok all many thx and have a great week | 05:00 |
| hoangcx | Bye | 05:00 |
| yushiro | Even if timezone is different and language is different, I'll focus on contributing fwaas :) | 05:00 |
| SridarK | we can sync on the fwaas channel or email | 05:00 |
| njohnston | thanks all! | 05:00 |
| yushiro | yes, bye! | 05:00 |
| SridarK | yushiro: thx | 05:00 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
| SridarK | bye all | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:00 | |
| SarathMekala | bye all O/ | 05:00 |
| chandanc_ | bye | 05:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 05:00:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-09-21-04.00.html | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-09-21-04.00.txt | 05:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-09-21-04.00.log.html | 05:00 |
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| soichi | hi | 05:31 |
| kaz | hi | 05:31 |
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| reedip | hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 21 05:33:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:33 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:33 |
| vnyyad | Hi | 05:33 |
| soichi | #topic: Inclusion in Governance and Neutron Stadium | 05:33 |
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| reedip | hi vnyyad | 05:33 |
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| reedip | armax : ping ? | 05:34 |
| reedip | I think he is busy ,but it would be great if we can talk to him about this. | 05:34 |
| vnyyad | could not ping him yesterday, will try today | 05:34 |
| vnyyad | actually he is on now | 05:34 |
| reedip | the basic query is , if we should apply for governance first, and then move onto neutron stadium? | 05:35 |
| vnyyad | yes | 05:35 |
| vnyyad | can we ask this in the neutron mailing list and try to get some opinion or answer? | 05:36 |
| reedip | vnyyad : I think we can . | 05:37 |
| vnyyad | reedip: ok... shall we try that then | 05:37 |
| vnyyad | anil: any thoughts | 05:38 |
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| reedip | vnyyad : I think we can | 05:38 |
| vnyyad | reedip: so let me put in a mail today | 05:39 |
| reedip | vnyyad , lets see if anil_rao has some inputs for this? | 05:40 |
| vnyyad | +1 | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:41 |
| soichi | yamamoto: hi | 05:41 |
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| soichi | anil_rao: do you have any thoughts? | 05:43 |
| soichi | let's go on next topic | 05:45 |
| soichi | #topic: Performance measurement (progress report) | 05:45 |
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| kaz | We uploaded a new document about the performance measurement. | 05:45 |
| -kaz- #link https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/e/e9/Increasing_Send_Packets20160921.\ | 05:46 | |
| -kaz- png | 05:46 | |
| soichi | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/e/e9/Increasing_Send_Packets20160921.png | 05:46 |
| kaz | Slide 1 shows a performance of the original (community) implementation. | 05:46 |
| kaz | The horizonal axis means # of send packets by "iperf -b Npps" | 05:47 |
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| kaz | the vertical axis means # of received packets and mirror packets. | 05:47 |
| kaz | It seems that overhead of mirroring is small if the number of send packets is less than about 70k pps. | 05:48 |
| kaz | Slide 2 shows of the flow based tunneling version we implemented. | 05:49 |
| soichi | packet size: 64byte (lleft graph) and 128byte (right graph) | 05:49 |
| vnyyad | by flow based you mean a filtering based on 5 tuple... before mirroring ? | 05:50 |
| kaz | we did not use filtering | 05:52 |
| vnyyad | ok can you just elaborate on what flow based meant here | 05:53 |
| kaz | We implemented flow based tunneling for separation the production traffic and mirror traffic. | 05:53 |
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| vnyyad | ha ok... thanks for the clarification | 05:54 |
| kaz | Slide 3 shows a comparison of when packet length is 1400Byte. | 05:56 |
| kaz | the left graph is original version, and the right is flow based tunneling version. | 05:57 |
| kaz | It seems that the received packets with mirror and mirror packets are almost half of the packets without mirror(blue line) | 05:58 |
| kaz | It is because the physical network was saturated. | 05:59 |
| kaz | Each data of the right graph is almost same bacause of the separation between the production and the mirror traffic | 06:00 |
| kaz | to different physical network. | 06:01 |
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| yamamoto | so everything seem working as expected? | 06:02 |
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| kaz | yamamoto: yes | 06:03 |
| soichi | as a result we can say that trafic separation between production and mirror is effective | 06:04 |
| vnyyad | +1 | 06:04 |
| vnyyad | kaz and soichi: thanks guys! | 06:06 |
| soichi | thank you, we will make additional measurements | 06:07 |
| soichi | can we go on next topic? | 06:07 |
| soichi | #topic: Open Discussion | 06:08 |
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| soichi | Good news: TaaS presentation proposal was selected for the vBrownBag Tech Talk in Barcelona Summit | 06:08 |
| soichi | on 27th Oct., Wedensday, 15:15-15:30 | 06:08 |
| soichi | we will present performance characteristics of TaaS | 06:10 |
| yamamoto | Wed is 26 | 06:10 |
| soichi | yamamoto: yes, 26th | 06:10 |
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| soichi | #link: http://vbrownbag.com/2016/09/vbrownbag-techtalks-at-openstack-barcelona/ | 06:12 |
| soichi | just FYI | 06:12 |
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| soichi | do you have any other topics or update for today? | 06:15 |
| yamamoto | nothing from me | 06:17 |
| vnyyad | nothing here too | 06:17 |
| kaz | i have no more topics. | 06:17 |
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| reedip | sorry, I was out | 06:18 |
| soichi | reedip: do you have any topic or update? | 06:19 |
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| reedip | soichi : nothing much as such , but I wanted to know why we cannot create BPs for TaaS | 06:19 |
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| reedip | vnyyad : Launchpad doesnt allow us to create Blue prints currently | 06:20 |
| reedip | for Tap-as-a-Service | 06:20 |
| vnyyad | reedip: let me take a look and geet baack to you | 06:20 |
| soichi | vnyyad: +1 | 06:20 |
| reedip | okkkk , vnyyad : I wiiil waiit :D | 06:20 |
| vnyyad | :) | 06:21 |
| soichi | anything else? | 06:22 |
| soichi | it seems we can close today's meeting | 06:23 |
| soichi | thank you guys, see you next week | 06:23 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 06:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 06:23:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-09-21-05.33.html | 06:23 |
| vnyyad | bye | 06:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-09-21-05.33.txt | 06:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-09-21-05.33.log.html | 06:23 |
| kaz | bye | 06:23 |
| soichi | bye | 06:23 |
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| claudiub | #start-meeting hyper-v | 13:01 |
| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 21 13:01:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:01 |
| claudiub | hello hello | 13:01 |
| abalutoiu | hello | 13:01 |
| claudiub | waiting for a bit, so people can join | 13:01 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi All | 13:04 |
| claudiub | hello :) | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | sorry late today... | 13:04 |
| claudiub | it's fine :) | 13:04 |
| claudiub | anyone else joining us? | 13:05 |
| atuvenie | hi all, sorry, internet is a little slow today | 13:05 |
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| sagar_nikam | we can start | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | sonu may not join | 13:05 |
| claudiub | ok | 13:05 |
| claudiub | #topic performance test results | 13:06 |
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| claudiub | abalutoiu: hellou. :) can you share with us some of your results? | 13:06 |
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| abalutoiu | claudiub: hello, sure | 13:06 |
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| abalutoiu | here are some performance comparison results between KVM, Hyper-V on WS2012R2 and WS 2016TP5 with all the latest improvements that we've been working on: http://paste.openstack.org/show/fzCXXHcLrk2L0SsrJgx9/ | 13:07 |
| abalutoiu | the test consists in booting a VM, attaching a volume and deleting the VM | 13:08 |
| abalutoiu | 100 total iterations, with 20 iterations in parallel | 13:08 |
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| sagar_nikam | we are close to kvm... nie | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | nice | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | but ... only with TP5 ? | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | cant we achieve the same with 2012 R2 ? | 13:10 |
| abalutoiu | another test (which includes nova boot, test ssh connection to the VM and delete VM): http://paste.openstack.org/show/iRwQHKku6CCz6PoX0kRi/ | 13:10 |
| claudiub | i see in the paste there is also 2012 r2 results | 13:10 |
| claudiub | there are* | 13:10 |
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| abalutoiu | it is written above each table the host used | 13:11 |
| claudiub | and i see that we actually perform better thank kvm | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: yes... but the results are not as good as kvm or TP5 | 13:11 |
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| claudiub | yeah, by 3 seconds in total, or 1% | 13:12 |
| abalutoiu | load durations for the test, on WS 2012R2 250sec, on WS 2016TP5 244sec and on KVM 280sec | 13:12 |
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| claudiub | the difference between kvm and hyper-v is even greater on the 2nd paste abalutoiu sent | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | OK | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | looks good... | 13:14 |
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| sagar_nikam | the new version of pyMI available in pypi | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | ? | 13:14 |
| claudiub | and can it can be seen the difference between the latest pymi patches and without them | 13:14 |
| claudiub | not yet, there are still 2 pull requests that we have to merge on pymi | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: ok.. not a issue | 13:15 |
| claudiub | but it'll be released by next week | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | one question... what were the tenant VMs.... windows or linux ? | 13:15 |
| * clarkb asks drive by question. Are you booting the same image on both? | 13:15 | |
| claudiub | i'm assuming it's a cirros image. abalutoiu? | 13:16 |
| abalutoiu | yes, it's a cirros image | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:17 |
| abalutoiu | clarkb: yep, it's the same image on both, the only difference is the disk format | 13:17 |
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| clarkb | abalutoiu: for kvm are oyu using qcow2? and if so are you booting qcow2 or is nova converting to raw? (I juts recently discovered it does this and makes things slow) | 13:18 |
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| clarkb | (basically if you are going to have nova boot raw its best to upload raw to glance) | 13:18 |
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| sagar_nikam | will there be any difference if we use same other image ? other than cirros... or will the results be same | 13:19 |
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| abalutoiu | I'm using qcow2 for KVM and vhdx for Hyper-V | 13:20 |
| abalutoiu | I'm not sure if nova is converting the image to raw | 13:20 |
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| claudiub | clarkb: i assume there is a nova.conf option for this behaviour, right? | 13:22 |
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| clarkb | claudiub: there are 2! this is why we were so confused about it and took a while. But yes you have to set use_raw_images to false and libvirt image type to qcow2 iirc | 13:23 |
| clarkb | abalutoiu: but with infracloud we saw it was causing long boot times because the qcow2 was copied to the compute host then converted to raw before being booted | 13:24 |
| clarkb | so we turned it off and just boot off the qcow2 now | 13:24 |
| clarkb | (anyways I just learned this stuff yesterday and saw it might be relevant to your performance discussion ealrier since we were also tuning boot times) | 13:25 |
| claudiub | it seems force_raw_images is set to True by default | 13:25 |
| clarkb | claudiub: yup and its a fine default if you also upload raw images to glance | 13:26 |
| claudiub | clarkb: yeah, thanks for the tips. :) | 13:26 |
| claudiub | it'll be something we'll take into account next time we do some performance tests | 13:26 |
| claudiub | clarkb: also, if you know any, do you know about specific kvm performance fine-tuning we can do? it'll be helpful to know we've applied all the best practices for performance for both kvm and hyper-v when we compare them. | 13:28 |
| clarkb | claudiub: the only other thing we have done is set the writeback setting to unsafe beacuse all of our instances are ephemeral for testing | 13:29 |
| clarkb | this gives us better io performance | 13:29 |
| claudiub | i see. thanks for your input! | 13:31 |
| claudiub | so, it seems we'll have to apply those suggestions next time we'll do some testing | 13:32 |
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| abalutoiu | yep, thanks clarkb for the tips | 13:32 |
| lpetrut | hey guys. I think that the force_raw_images config option would not affect those results as in each scenario the image was already cached, correct me if I'm wrong Alin | 13:34 |
| clarkb | lpetrut: if its already cached on all compute hosts it shouldn't affect it | 13:35 |
| clarkb | (which happens by booting an instance of that image on all compute hosts prior) | 13:35 |
| claudiub | i see. so the impact is quite small anyways | 13:36 |
| claudiub | still worth setting the config option to false, imo | 13:36 |
| clarkb | or use a raw image to start or make sure its cached across the board or something. | 13:37 |
| abalutoiu | we used only one host for each hypervisor, and the image was already cached before running the tests | 13:37 |
| abalutoiu | please let us know if you find any other performance tips&tricks on KVM if you don't mind clarkb | 13:38 |
| clarkb | can do | 13:38 |
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| claudiub | thanks clarkb! | 13:39 |
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| claudiub | #topic release status | 13:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:39 | |
| claudiub | soo, newton is going to be released in 2 weeks, aproximately | 13:40 |
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| claudiub | discovered an issue with ceilometer-polling on windows | 13:40 |
| claudiub | there is a new dependency in ceilometer, which crashes the agent | 13:40 |
| claudiub | cotyledon | 13:40 |
| claudiub | will have to send some pull requests to fix that | 13:41 |
| claudiub | other than that, nothing new | 13:41 |
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| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:42 |
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| sagar_nikam | what happened to monasca patches ? | 13:42 |
| claudiub | for the following weeks, testing will be our priority | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | will we miss newton ? for monasca | 13:43 |
| claudiub | we have a couple more common testing scenarios in mind, regarding performance | 13:43 |
| claudiub | like live / cold migration, cold resize, different volume types, etc. | 13:44 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: unfortunately, nothing. it got a bit too late for them. :( | 13:45 |
| claudiub | they're still up for review | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:45 |
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| sagar_nikam | hopefully O will have it | 13:45 |
| claudiub | hope so too. | 13:45 |
| claudiub | other than that, we're reproposed blueprints to Ocata | 13:45 |
| claudiub | for nova | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:46 |
| claudiub | currently, the hyper-v UEFI VMs spec and the os-brick in nova spec are approved | 13:46 |
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| claudiub | vNUMA instances and hyper-v storage qos specs are up. since they've been previously approved, they'll get in fast. | 13:47 |
| claudiub | and there are a few other specless blueprints that should be reapproved, like the Hyper-V OVS vif plug blueprint | 13:47 |
| claudiub | all patches have already been rebased to master, ready for review. | 13:47 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:48 |
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| claudiub | the Hyper-V PCI passthrough spec should be up in the following weeks as well, as well as code. | 13:48 |
| claudiub | that's pretty much all that comes to mind. | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | any further news on magnum support ? | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | since we last discussed few weeks back | 13:50 |
| claudiub | atuvenie: hi. :) | 13:51 |
| atuvenie | well, we won't make it in newton, obviously | 13:51 |
| atuvenie | the work in k8 is kind of slow at the moment, but going | 13:51 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:52 |
| atuvenie | we have had some problems with networking on TP5 for some reason, I'm trying to figure what/if something has changed in their model | 13:52 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:55 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: any news from your side? | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | claudiub: nothing much from my side... | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | no... the scale tests will take longer | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | not getting a free slot | 13:55 |
| sagar_nikam | not sure when we will get it.. | 13:56 |
| sagar_nikam | we are planning to run it on Mitaka | 13:56 |
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| claudiub | i see | 13:57 |
| claudiub | well, let us know when you start. :) | 13:57 |
| claudiub | other than that, I think we can end the meeting here | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | sure | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | yes... we can end | 13:58 |
| sagar_nikam | thank you .... | 13:58 |
| claudiub | thanks folks for joining! see you next week! | 13:58 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 13:58:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-09-21-13.01.html | 13:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-09-21-13.01.txt | 13:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-09-21-13.01.log.html | 13:58 |
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| ajo | hi ralonsoh | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | Sorry | 14:03 |
| njohnston | hey, sorry I am stuck in another meeting | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | I'm late | 14:03 |
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| njohnston | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 21 14:03:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| njohnston | #chair ajo | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ajo njohnston | 14:04 |
| njohnston | Since we are all probably spending a lot of time testing Newton, I'd just like to focus on things that have velocity at the moment, and probably keep this meeting short. | 14:04 |
| ajo | you were not late ralonsoh , see? :D | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: Thanks! | 14:04 |
| ajo | thanks njohnston ! : | 14:04 |
| ajo | :) | 14:04 |
| njohnston | sorry about that | 14:04 |
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| ajo | sorry njohnston go ahead with the plan, leave me a slot for the nova-placement-api details & ihar comments about prioritizing validation :) | 14:05 |
| njohnston | #topic RFEs | 14:05 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318531/ | 14:05 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:05 | |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318531/ | 14:05 |
| njohnston | [WIP] Add QoS minimum egress bandwidth rule into ovs-agent: | 14:05 |
| njohnston | - Use ralonsoh implementation: use QoS on all br-int ports and external ports. | 14:05 |
| njohnston | - Use Ichihara implementation: reduced scope, only apply QoS on external ports. | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | I'm in the middle of a discussion with Hirofumi | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | I you can review that, that could be helpful | 14:05 |
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| ajo | do we have two implementations ? | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | Yes | 14:06 |
| ajo | oh ':D | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | patch 10: my imp,ementation | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | with full qos applied to all ports | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | patch 13: qos only applied to external ports | 14:06 |
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| ralonsoh | It's a matter of define the scope | 14:07 |
| ralonsoh | No more comments | 14:07 |
| ajo | Would anything block us by starting on external | 14:07 |
| ajo | and then adding internal too if we find it reasonable? | 14:08 |
| ralonsoh | Perfect! | 14:08 |
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| ajo | I mean, if we hear of a use case for internal too that requires it, then we add it | 14:08 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll talk to Hirofumi to take care of this patch | 14:08 |
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| ajo | and otherwise, we assume internal traffic is not constrained | 14:08 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: I agree with this scope | 14:08 |
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| ajo | as generally doesn't have the limitation of the external uplink, but CPU is limited | 14:09 |
| ajo | ralonsoh++ | 14:09 |
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| njohnston | #topic Bugs | 14:10 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367369/ | 14:10 |
| njohnston | Fix SR-IOV qos extension calls to clear_rate functions: | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:10 | |
| ralonsoh | Yes. That's a small bug | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | I'm asking for reviews | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | only this | 14:10 |
| ajo | ralonsoh, is it a bug, or enhancement to design? | 14:11 |
| ajo | I mean (to consider if we need to push it to the next RC) | 14:11 |
| ralonsoh | enhancement | 14:11 |
| ajo | ack :) | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | But we need to change the name of the function calls | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | Thanks | 14:12 |
| njohnston | if this waits until Ocata, will we need to drop a deprecation warning for the old function call names? | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | We will need to check ip-link has these features | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | No need for deprecation | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | But I'll review that | 14:13 |
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| njohnston | very good | 14:13 |
| njohnston | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/1622644 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1622644 in networking-bgpvpn "OVS agent ryu/native implementation breaks non-OF1.3 uses" [Critical,Confirmed] | 14:13 |
| njohnston | The change related to this is: "fullstack: execute qos tests for all ovsdb/of interface permutations" | 14:13 |
| njohnston | #link https://review.openstack.org/372553 | 14:13 |
| ajo | it's internal API | 14:13 |
| ajo | so I guess no need for deprecation | 14:13 |
| njohnston | I thought people should be aware of this, because it's good stuff | 14:14 |
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| ajo | yeah :D | 14:14 |
| ajo | tiny change, full test coverage | 14:14 |
| ajo | ihar++ :) | 14:14 |
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| njohnston | #topic Other Changes | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other Changes (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:15 | |
| njohnston | ralonsoh: How goes the OSC patches? | 14:15 |
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| njohnston | I saw a new PS on at least one recently | 14:15 |
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| ralonsoh | waiting for qos policy | 14:15 |
| ralonsoh | the first one | 14:15 |
| ralonsoh | only one +2 | 14:16 |
| ralonsoh | and a comment: "waiting for dtroyer comments" | 14:16 |
| ajo | ralonsoh, do we have support to attach policy to port or network ? | 14:16 |
| njohnston | perhaps it would help to ping in #openstack-sdks | 14:16 |
| ajo | +ping :) | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: what do you mean | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | ? | 14:17 |
| ajo | like the neutron port-update --qos-policy my-policy | 14:17 |
| ajo | or neutron port-update --no-policy | 14:17 |
| ajo | same for net | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: hmmmm I need to check this | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | ok, new bug for OSC | 14:17 |
| ajo | neutron client provides that capability, but not sure if we already had patches for that, ok | 14:17 |
| ajo | X') | 14:17 |
| ajo | I just realized we were missing that tiny bit :D | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | I'll take care of this | 14:18 |
| ajo | you're awesome ralonsoh | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | thanks | 14:18 |
| njohnston | ralonsoh += awesome | 14:18 |
| njohnston | ajo: "leave me a slot for the nova-placement-api details & ihar comments about prioritizing validation". You have the floor! | 14:18 |
| ajo | oooook :) | 14:19 |
| ajo | #topic minimum bandwidth egress (strict) RFE | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "minimum bandwidth egress (strict) RFE (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:19 | |
| ajo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:19 |
| ajo | this is something we expect to span from Ocata to beyond, requires no more API changes, | 14:19 |
| ajo | unless we want to flag the min bw rules for strict or not | 14:20 |
| ajo | that's something we could perhaps discuss | 14:20 |
| ajo | but | 14:20 |
| ajo | this is the feature that requires integration with "nova scheduler" | 14:20 |
| ajo | I got a great update today from sylvainb (Sylvain Bauzas) | 14:20 |
| ajo | from the nova team | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | I've been working with nova scheduler | 14:20 |
| ajo | The generic resource pools spec materialized as a new API endpoint | 14:21 |
| ajo | the nova placement API | 14:21 |
| ralonsoh | I know how to do this and I made a POC in my company a year ago | 14:21 |
| ajo | ralonsoh, we can't hook up a plugin on the scheduler for this, but we have a plan | 14:21 |
| ajo | :) | 14:21 |
| ajo | so | 14:21 |
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| ajo | nova came up with this spec: | 14:21 |
| ajo | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/newton/approved/generic-resource-pools.html | 14:21 |
| ajo | it's implemented for newton, the API is available | 14:21 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 14:22 |
| ajo | it will let you to declare (via API) resource pools ( DISK_GB, RAM, etc...) and eventually | 14:22 |
| njohnston | ajo: very nice! | 14:22 |
| ajo | NIC_BW_<physnet>_<direction> | 14:22 |
| ajo | and then we would expose those requirements on the neutron ports when got by nova | 14:22 |
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| ajo | so before scheduling the instance, nova would have to create (or get) the port, check the requirements | 14:23 |
| ajo | and find a hypervisor satisfying the needed bandwidth | 14:23 |
| ajo | this is the devstack support to enable such API: | 14:23 |
| ajo | #link devstack support: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342362/ | 14:23 |
| ajo | so far, the API is not ready to declare custom resource classes | 14:24 |
| ajo | (that means different types of NIC_BW (per physnet and direction)) | 14:24 |
| ajo | wip spec on nova for custom resource classes: | 14:24 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312696/ | 14:24 |
| ajo | and | 14:24 |
| ajo | example of resource reporting from nova to such API: | 14:24 |
| ajo | #link https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/client/report.py | 14:25 |
| ajo | they do it via http | 14:25 |
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| ajo | so | 14:25 |
| ajo | we would need to | 14:25 |
| ajo | 1) Collect available bandwidth on each agent, per physnet | 14:25 |
| ajo | 2) Report it via this API, or to a central service in neutron, that will in turn report to the nova api | 14:25 |
| ajo | that's the total amount of bw | 14:25 |
| ajo | 3) we would need the custom resource classes to be there | 14:26 |
| ajo | or we could tweak it in the mean time by having a "non-merged" patch in nova to have a generic NIC_BW or a bunch of them, just for testing | 14:26 |
| ajo | until they merge it | 14:26 |
| ajo | Depends-On, etc... | 14:26 |
| njohnston | yep | 14:26 |
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| ajo | 4) exposing those constraints on a port-get from nova | 14:27 |
| ajo | 5) making nova create/get the port before trying to schedule the port (apparently they will implement that on Ocata for Cells v2) | 14:27 |
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| ajo | 6) and make sure they use/count those details | 14:27 |
| ajo | probably that's it :) | 14:27 |
| ajo | ah | 14:28 |
| ajo | one point | 14:28 |
| ralonsoh | good analysis! | 14:28 |
| ajo | if you see their scheduler/client/report.py | 14:28 |
| ajo | you will see that there is no integration of such api in the nova client | 14:28 |
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| ajo | there's no client still for the nova placement api | 14:28 |
| ajo | A possible plan could be using their code (copying to neutron), and once there's a common client, making use of it | 14:29 |
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| ajo | a common client, likely to be "support in the openstack sdk" :-9 | 14:29 |
| ajo | :-) | 14:29 |
| ajo | So, this is a effort to probably span Ocata -> beyond | 14:29 |
| njohnston | this is some awesome news | 14:30 |
| ajo | but we should consider start making progress on it and not waiting for the whole thing (custom resource types in nova) when we see it fit | 14:30 |
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| ajo | I will start myself by exploring the nova API, and writting a more detailed plan | 14:30 |
| ajo | may be a full spec? since this seems to be a complicated chunk | 14:30 |
| ajo | #action ajo starts writing a spec | 14:31 |
| njohnston | Yes, I think this is probably good for a spec | 14:31 |
| ajo | #undo | 14:31 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x7f23bda80150> | 14:31 |
| ajo | #action ajo starts writing a spec for strict bandwidth guarantees and nova placement api integration | 14:31 |
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| ajo | any comments about this topic? | 14:31 |
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| ralonsoh | I'm very interested in help with that | 14:32 |
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| njohnston | super cool | 14:32 |
| ajo | ralonsoh, great, let's talk during the summit (probably, with more details on hand), I'll loop you in the spec | 14:32 |
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| ajo | so, last topic then? | 14:33 |
| njohnston | yep | 14:33 |
| njohnston | #topic Open Discussion | 14:33 |
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| njohnston | anything else? | 14:33 |
| ajo | so, we have | 14:33 |
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| liuyulong__ | hi guys | 14:33 |
| ajo | the enhanced rule validation that slaweq was working on | 14:33 |
| ajo | this has to go before any new kind of new policy rule we introduce | 14:33 |
| ajo | to avoid things getting out of hand :) | 14:34 |
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| ajo | and, also I need to refactor the notification driver thing into a "qos driver" thing, to be more consistent | 14:34 |
| njohnston | yep; I don't recall seeing anything new on that recently, but I think it is an early-Ocata must-have | 14:34 |
| ajo | so I should resume my chunk of work ':) | 14:34 |
| liuyulong__ | sorry to interrupt, : ( | 14:34 |
| ajo | that's all on my side | 14:34 |
| njohnston | liuyulong__: go ahead | 14:34 |
| ajo | liuyulong_, go ahead, sorry :) | 14:34 |
| liuyulong__ | I have a draft RFE spec, https://github.com/gotostack/gotostack.github.io/blob/master/pages/CloudComputing/layer-3-rate-limit.rst. It’s something about L3 qos. Hope to get some help, if you guys have time. I'm always in the openstack-neutron channel. Thank you. : ) | 14:35 |
| liuyulong__ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 14:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create floating-ips with qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to LiuYong (liu-yong8) | 14:35 |
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| ajo | liuyulong__, question | 14:36 |
| ajo | isn't that equivalent to limiting the external leg of the router ? | 14:36 |
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| ajo | I only readed it diagonally, so probably not | 14:36 |
| ajo | ah, per floating ip? | 14:36 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, yep, east/west will not | 14:36 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, only for public IPs (v4) | 14:37 |
| ajo | yes, but east/west doesn't go through the external leg of the router | 14:37 |
| ajo | in the current implementation you could acomplish that (for egress only) if you put a bandwidth limit policy on the external leg of the router | 14:38 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, yes, east/west will be handled by current QoS implementation. | 14:38 |
| ajo | but not by IP, only globally | 14:38 |
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| ajo | I think it's better if we don't spread the qos details across objects/and stuff (like floating ips) | 14:38 |
| ajo | several alternatives could be | 14:38 |
| ajo | 1) Attaching policies to floating IPs ? | 14:39 |
| ajo | 2) Having traffic classification (you can filter on the IP for the limit) and attach policy to external router leg | 14:39 |
| njohnston | and I'm not sure how this would vary based on whether there is fast-exit routing versus return path routing through the network node | 14:39 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, actually we've already implement this by using linux tc in router namespace. | 14:40 |
| ajo | liuyulong__, yes, It's completely possible | 14:40 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, locally in our mitaka neutron, : ) | 14:40 |
| ajo | liuyulong___ but the complicated part is not implementing an API and the code (it has it's merit of course) | 14:40 |
| ajo | the complicated part is agreeing an API with the community | 14:41 |
| ajo | then what, when somebody wants to apply DSCP rules per floating IP ? | 14:41 |
| ajo | or min bw rules per floating IP ? | 14:41 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, yep, so I'm here to find some help/advice and so on. | 14:41 |
| ajo | may be the model is to let floating IPs being associated to QoS policies | 14:41 |
| ajo | but that'd mean | 14:41 |
| ajo | that we have some basic mean of doing traffic classification | 14:41 |
| ajo | because from an ovs agent point of view | 14:41 |
| ajo | we'd have to apply it on port level | 14:42 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, people may want to know how large the bandwidth of their floating IP. | 14:42 |
| ajo | it's worth thinking about it | 14:42 |
| ajo | seems like a reasonable use case | 14:42 |
| ajo | liuyulong__, they could see the policy_id on the floating ip | 14:42 |
| ajo | and then check the policy | 14:43 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, and cloud admins also want limit the users' floating IP bandwidth, because of the limitation of the NIC or DC export. | 14:43 |
| ajo | yes yes, liuyulong__ I'm not discussing the use case | 14:43 |
| ajo | I believe it's valuable | 14:43 |
| njohnston | should we continue this discussion on the bug? | 14:44 |
| ajo | we should continue discussion, | 14:44 |
| ajo | on the bug, I mean | 14:44 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, So, should I submit the draft spec to review? We can talk about it there? | 14:44 |
| ajo | liuyulong__ yeah, may be a draft spec makes sense, but please don't open blueprints, | 14:45 |
| ajo | that's done by the driver team once an RFE has been approved | 14:45 |
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| ajo | liuyulong__ you may also want to discuss with slaweq | 14:45 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, OK, I have not. | 14:45 |
| ajo | he works at OVH, has been working on the current APIs, | 14:45 |
| ajo | and he's probably interested in your use case too | 14:45 |
| liuyulong__ | ajo, great, thanks. | 14:46 |
| njohnston | super | 14:46 |
| njohnston | does anyone have anything else? | 14:46 |
| njohnston | ok, hearing nothing else I'll give 12 minutes back. Thanks! | 14:47 |
| ajo | njohnston++ thank you very much | 14:47 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
| davidsha | thanks guys! | 14:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 14:47:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-09-21-14.03.html | 14:47 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-09-21-14.03.txt | 14:48 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-09-21-14.03.log.html | 14:48 |
| njohnston | ajo: any time! | 14:48 |
| ajo | hi davidsha :D | 14:48 |
| njohnston | hi davidsha! | 14:48 |
| ajo | :D | 14:48 |
| davidsha | ajo, njohnston : hey! | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: I'm not going to the summit.... we'll talk by mail | 14:48 |
| ajo | will you guys be around in barelona ? | 14:48 |
| ajo | barcelona | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | nope | 14:48 |
| njohnston | I believe I will | 14:48 |
| ralonsoh | David is going | 14:48 |
| ajo | arghh ack :D | 14:48 |
| ajo | I'll bring my family and kids, they want to do some tourism ;) | 14:48 |
| ajo | it will be double-exhausting ;) | 14:49 |
| njohnston | ajo: Cool! | 14:49 |
| davidsha | I am, cool! | 14:49 |
| njohnston | ajo: I did that in Austin, it was very nice | 14:49 |
| ajo | njohnston, nice :D | 14:49 |
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| larissabraz | o/ | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | just give it a minute | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | agenda is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
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| bklei | o/ | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday September 21, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Cooperation with ELK => https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multitenancy-for-openstack-cloud-with-keystone/60577 | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Moving kibana plugin into openstack namespace | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Reviews | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Are merges permitted/allowed for regular fixes - or just bug-fixing ? | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Plugins for monasca-notification => status ? | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://review.openstack.org/350470 | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 4.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343818/ => Question from Igor @ PS_4 | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Question: Is anyone using OAuth with Keystone ? | 15:03 |
| fungi | after you tried to #startmeeting | 15:03 |
| anteaya | rhochmuth: you need to start your meeting again | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | fungi: thanks | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 21 15:03:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:04 |
| tomasztrebski | lags...lags everywhere.... | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | there it is | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | agenda Agenda for Wednesday September 21, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Cooperation with ELK => https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multitenancy-for-openstack-cloud-with-keystone/60577 | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Moving kibana plugin into openstack namespace | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Reviews | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Are merges permitted/allowed for regular fixes - or just bug-fixing ? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Plugins for monasca-notification => status ? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://review.openstack.org/350470 | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 4.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343818/ => Question from Igor @ PS_4 | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Question: Is anyone using OAuth with Keystone ? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | sorry about the delay | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | let's get into the agenda | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Cooperation with ELK => https://discuss.elastic.co/t/multitenancy-for-openstack-cloud-with-keystone/60577 | 15:05 |
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| tomasztrebski | not much to add, apart from they seem very "eager" to discuss anything... | 15:05 |
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| tomasztrebski | question is, do we want to try more and write to them or are we looking for something different IMHO | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | that wasn't a very informative answer | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | i think we should follow-up | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think they understand what we are trying to do | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | seems to think that Shield is there solution | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | but, i don't think they understand OS and what we are trying to do with MOnasca Log API | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | the other option is to hop on their IRC channel | 15:08 |
| tomasztrebski | well it's there product...seems a fair reason to say Shield all the time... | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not sure they are trying to be close-minded about this | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | i know the response seems harsh | 15:09 |
| witek | i'll try to get in touch with them | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | but, they might have misunderstood what we are doing | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | witek: thanks | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | can you cc me if you send email | 15:10 |
| witek | sure | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | or arrange a meeting time if that occurs | 15:10 |
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| tomasztrebski | ok, let's hope that will work | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | or, we could try their forum | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | i'm assuming they have one | 15:11 |
| tomasztrebski | the post there is their forum | 15:11 |
| tomasztrebski | actually | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | ohh, i missed that | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | i guess that rules out that possiblity | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | on to plan B | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | Are merges permitted/allowed for regular fixes - or just bug-fixing ? | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | we are trying to lock-down | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think we should be adding any significant new features right now | 15:14 |
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| tomasztrebski | it's not clear what can be merged or not at least for me | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i need to update/tag it sounds like | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | so, prior to this morning, i thought that the branches for monasca had already occured | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | they had occured for the python-monascaclient | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | but, they weren't done for all the other libraries | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | so, based on email from witek, it looks like i can apply tags for the newton release still | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | the branches won't occur until sometime in oct | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | i believe the 6th | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | of october | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | so, after the tags are done, then i think master could open up again | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | does that make sense? | 15:16 |
| witek | yes | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll get tags setup in newton | 15:17 |
| witek | i can push the changes in python-monascaclient to stable/newton | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | thanks witek | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | so after the tags are done, then i'm not sure we want to open the flood gates on master | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | but we might be able to start getting new features in on master | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | the only issue i have is if we fix a bug prior to branches being created | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | not having to worry about new features would be nice | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | that had already gotten merged | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | i'm guessing from a pure openstack viewpoint though, if you look at other projects | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | master is locked down | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | can we move on? | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | so in other words only those changes that are marked with bug-fix could be merged | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | right now we have code-freeze until lifted ? | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:20 |
| tomasztrebski | and code-freeze is lifter after stable/newton branches will be created ? | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not 100% positive | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | on that | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | as i think we could start getting new features merged again, but it would be nice to not worry about that until the branches are created | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | so i think the openstack answer/way is to lock-down until branches are done | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | ok, no further questions | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | the defense rests | 15:22 |
| tomasztrebski | ;-) | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | your honor | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Plugins for monasca-notification => status ? | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | these are still in progress, at least the reviews that are posted | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | looks like i can't merge right now either based on the previous discussion | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | haneet is going to add custom formatting to the email plugin | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | he might have published a review yesterday that addresses that | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | the jira plugin potentially needs a lot more work | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | we did a review last week | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | and there were several important points raised | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | that need to be resolved prior to merging | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | does that description help? | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | or should i supply more | 15:25 |
| tomasztrebski | nope, that is very informative, thx | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | here are the notes/questions that haneef wrote down | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | 1) [endif]We are currently opening the ISSUE when the problem re-occurs if it is already in CLOSED or RESOLVED state. There is an opinion that we should not be doing that, instead we should create a new one. How about going with config option to either create new one or to open the resolved one? | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | [if !supportLists]2) [endif]Flooding issue. How are we going to deal with the flooding? Monasca doesn’t have way to deal with flooding. In case of EMAIL, we can just select and delete all the mails, but if so many issues are created how are we going to clean this out? | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | [if !supportLists]3) [endif]Monasca creates notification when state = ( ALARM, OK, UNDETERMINED). The problem is UNDETERMINED state. Undetermined state has a potential to create lot of notification. (e.g during upgrade or reconfigure when services are stopped and restarted). Are we going to restrict the plugin only to “ALARM” state? | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | [if !supportLists]4) [endif]Do we need to close the issue when ALARM state = OK? | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | [if !supportLists]5) [endif]We are creating issues with the title “Helion OpenStack Alarm: Alarm raised for <alarm_defintion_name> with severity. For predefined generic alarm definition such has “httpcheck” we will be getting many alarms with the same title. How useful is this from customer perspective? There should be a way for customer to know that “httpcheck or processcheck” failed for nova, key | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | [if !supportLists]6) [endif]If we created an issue, then we need to have well known search criteria. Where are we going to include that search criteria? Will the customers be using “Dimension” for search criteria? | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | [if !supportLists]7) [endif]How about JIRA performance? If many issues are created, how is JIRA going to perform? | 15:26 |
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| rhochmuth | that didn't copy/paste well, but hopefully it is parsable | 15:27 |
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| tomasztrebski | whoa...that's a lot of open questions.... | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | also, see the blueprint | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | if you need more context let me know | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/350470 | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | i guess we talked about that one last week | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | craig added a minor comment that was resolved | 15:29 |
| tomasztrebski | that's me... guess I am very stubborn about that ;-) | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | i think it is ready to merge | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i'll ping craig again | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | and also joe | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | sorry about the delay | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343818/ | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | i agree with witek's last comment | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | also, needs a lot more reviews | 15:31 |
| tomasztrebski | me too, but the item in question goes to one of the Igor's comment | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | and only python code | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | no java | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | and only influxdb | 15:32 |
| tomasztrebski | wasn't sure what was the correct answer | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | … | 15:32 |
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| igorn | my question was about sporadic be part of the | 15:32 |
| igorn | identity of the metric | 15:32 |
| igorn | The way that it is done now, sporadic is just a flag and nothing more and after the first time that the metric is published using sporadic=True, this metric will never be non-sporadic again. | 15:32 |
| igorn | If sporadic is part of the metric identity, we can have two different metrics with the same name and dimensions, but one sporadic and the other non-sporadic. | 15:33 |
| igorn | I'd like to know your opinion about it, rhochmuth | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | we havent' discussed this feature in a while | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | so i'm trying to recall all the relevant topics | 15:34 |
| tomasztrebski | kind of blurred all that is now...that;s why bringing it up here | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think that sporadic shoudl be treated as identity | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | like dimensions are treated | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | in general, this is information about the metric | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | not it's identity | 15:36 |
| witek | monasca-thresh would have to be changed as well | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | in the logging api, we also had a blueprint to add properties or attributes | 15:36 |
| tomasztrebski | igorn: perhaps it'd be useful to make a blueprint for sporadic stuff where all that's relevant would be kept | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | tsv created a blueprint for that | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | and i was wondering, to be consistent, if we should do something simialr for metrics too | 15:36 |
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| rhochmuth | in the case of the logging api, we wanted to supply additional information with the log message that could be used for routing opurposes | 15:37 |
| igorn | ok. Sounds better to me. | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | basically, whether the log messages was an audit log or not | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | that information would be used for publishing to a different topic | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | becuase audit logs should be treated differently | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | they might have different retention periods | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | for example | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | but, we also discussed a lot of other possiblities | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | in addition, we discussed the metrics | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | so, sporadic fits in that same category | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | other ideas were to specify a priority on a metric | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | for example, we now support the "last" function in the threshold engine which can be used to immedialty transition alarms | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | but, it might also be nice to specify that those metrics go through a topic in Kafka that has a higher priority | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | or isn't backed behind everything else | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | all the other metrics that is | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think we have to put some more serious thought into how to handle properties/attributes | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | and it would be nice to make that consisten betwen logging and metrics | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | which since we haven't committed anything yet should be possible | 15:41 |
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| rhochmuth | witek: yes, there has to be suport in monasca-thresh too | 15:41 |
| igorn | of course, I'll be waiting for. | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | my fingers are getting tired | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | i might have to stretch a bit | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | you kind of went with the flow... | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | ;-) | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | lol | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | i'm starting to cramp up | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | left index finger cramp | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | medic, medic | 15:42 |
| tomasztrebski | is there a doctor here ? | 15:43 |
| tomasztrebski | oh wait...wasn't it you who was called Dr. Monasca ? | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | i can't o9perate on myeself | 15:43 |
| igorn | lol | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | ok, back to reality, take deep breath | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | so, how about we get back to this topic in a couple of weeks | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | we can't merge it now | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | anyway | 15:44 |
| tomasztrebski | just to wrap all up | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | and i think it is going to take some more serious discussions | 15:44 |
| igorn | ok. Maybe we can discuss a bit more about it at the summit :- | 15:44 |
| igorn | :-) | 15:45 |
| tomasztrebski | igor will create a blueprint for sporadic putting everything important there | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | sure, that woudl be a good topic | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | ignor: are you going? | 15:45 |
| tomasztrebski | we will think on properties/atrributes | 15:45 |
| tomasztrebski | and routing in kafka | 15:45 |
| tomasztrebski | ? | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | yes, that woudl be another related topic | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | as we have the bp in place | 15:45 |
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| igorn | tomasztrebski: ok, let me know when it is ready | 15:45 |
| igorn | rhochmuth: yes, I'll be there. | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | igorn: sounds good | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | we can discuss there | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | witek and tomaz will be there too | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | and others | 15:46 |
| igorn | sure | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Question: Is anyone using OAuth with Keystone ? | 15:47 |
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| tomasztrebski | yeah, that's my I was trying to figure out using keystone's oauth for grafana , version 3.x I guess because there were generic_auth plugin is | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | i have never heard of that before | 15:48 |
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| tomasztrebski | it's just not the important, since our PO decided that's too big an effort for now for us | 15:48 |
| tomasztrebski | I should've removed this topic from agenda | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | no problem | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | i guess that is the end of the topics | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | at this time i woudl like to open it up for discussions | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | does anyone have anymore topics | 15:50 |
| witek | do you have some new info about design sessions? | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | just in case, i schedule another monasca/cassandra meeting for monday | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | i have six slots available | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | but i don't have a specific agenda yet | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | we had some items we discussed last week | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | and today | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i think we'll cover all of them | 15:51 |
| witek | the time is also not fixed yet, is it? | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | i think it is fixed | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | tomasz: you were waiting for a meeting for events | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | the problem is on my end again | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not sure what resources i can commit to this | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | so, everything was looking good for staffing this effort, but now it is on the back burner again | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | so, i didn't send an email | 15:56 |
| tomasztrebski | yeah, I guess we will just have it wait -) | 15:56 |
| tomasztrebski | ;-) | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | it also looks like cassandra will be more difficult | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | ddieterly has been looking at cassandra along with the rest of us at hpe | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | that is what we woudl like to discuss on monday | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | at the next update | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | if you would like to attend please let me know | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | that is a skype/lync session | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | i guess that is all for today | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | thanks, see you and nice day | 15:59 |
| tomasztrebski | evenings too | 15:59 |
| tomasztrebski | ;-) | 15:59 |
| pratid | bye | 15:59 |
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| Kamil__ | bye | 15:59 |
| igorn | bye ;-) | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 15:59:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-09-21-15.03.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-09-21-15.03.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-09-21-15.03.log.html | 15:59 |
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| markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 21 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
| eglute | o/ | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #chair eglute | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.18 Today's agenda | 16:00 |
| * markvoelker pauses a moment to see who else is around today | 16:01 | |
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| gema | o/ | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | hi gema | 16:01 |
| gema | hello | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, not a huge agenda today so let's see what we can get done... | 16:02 |
| eglute | Catherine will not attend today | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | #topic Summit | 16:02 |
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| markvoelker | hogepodge: around? | 16:02 |
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| gema | not sure, I am at the airport already | 16:02 |
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| eglute | gema, was there some openstack event? | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | Ok, we'll skip this topic for the moment as I have no updates and hogepodge doesn't seem to be on | 16:03 |
| shamail | Which topic? | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | shamail: meeting times for summit | 16:03 |
| shamail | Just making sure it’s not the rename | 16:03 |
| shamail | ah ok | 16:03 |
| gema | eglute: the infra/qa sprint in germany | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | eglute: QA/infra sprint is this week in Germany IIRC | 16:04 |
| gema | markvoelker: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16798/interop-defcore-working-group-work-session | 16:04 |
| * markvoelker shouts "jinx" | 16:04 | |
| gema | he told us this earlier in the channel | 16:04 |
| eglute | heheh | 16:04 |
| eglute | oh i missed it | 16:04 |
| luzC | o/ | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | Me too...stormy weather in RTP knocked me offline for a bit. Thanks gema. | 16:04 |
| eglute | thanks! | 16:05 |
| * markvoelker notes it in the etherpad | 16:05 | |
| markvoelker | Ok, next topic. | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | #topic 2017.01 Guideline | 16:05 |
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| markvoelker | Thanks for those of you that stepped forward to play point on identifying new capabilities | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | It's importatnt that we start getting patches submitted for new capabilities ASAP so we can start iterating and considering | 16:06 |
| eglute | for swift, i contacted notmyname waiting to hear back | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | Also, if you haven't talked to the PTL for your project(s) yet, please reach out. | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | It looks like we have one or two projects currently without volunteers: Glance and Ceilometer | 16:07 |
| shamail | For Cinder and Nova, I have not spoken on this topic with the PTLs but have reached out to both of them and have something scheduled (basically contacting them to let them know I will be contacting them) | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | I'll take Glance if nobody else is on it already | 16:07 |
| gema | markvoelker: I would take it but I am quite swamped until two weeks from now | 16:07 |
| gema | and cannot touch it till then | 16:07 |
| shamail | I have to finish compiling the community-generated roadmap this week but this is on my backlog for next week. | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | Can someone pick up Ceilometer, or do I need to work on that too? Sorta suspect it might be a little less time consuming than others... | 16:08 |
| gema | oh, and I have feedback from QA on the spec, need to send another commit | 16:08 |
| eglute | i can take ceilometer | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | eglute: thanks! | 16:08 |
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| eglute | np. i will need to borrow a time machine anyways, might as well fit in ceilometer | 16:09 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, any questions on what folks need to do, mechanically? I'll probably post a patch for some neutron stuff this week if folks just need an example to follow...or you can look at previous patches from last cycle | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | There's also a recorded training, but I know some folks just like to see an actual commit they use as a guide. | 16:10 |
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| eglute | thanks markvoelker! examples are good! | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | Great. If you do need any help, please feel free to drop a note to the ML or grab me on IRC. | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | There is one mechanical thing we need to get done before we can start making changes to next.json though | 16:11 |
| eglute | which is? | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367066/ prep next.json for next guideline | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | eglute: hogepodge: can we get that merged? | 16:11 |
| eglute | I reviewed it this morning, missing a thing | 16:12 |
| eglute | if you patch it, i will merge it! | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, just saw catherine's comment from a few minutes ago | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | No biggee, I'll take care of that after the meeting today | 16:12 |
| eglute | that was me i think! | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | oops, yeah | 16:12 |
| eglute | but yes, i will merge it today, just let me know | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | oh, actually that's legit | 16:13 |
| eglute | it is? | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | It was marked as removed in 2016.08 so I didn't include it here | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/2016.08.json#L86 | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | Or do we want to just keep those forever? | 16:13 |
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| eglute | Oh! | 16:14 |
| eglute | ok then | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | (probably should have dropped identity-v2-tokens-create as well for consistency; don't know why I didn't) | 16:14 |
| eglute | merged! you can update it later if you wish with the identity-v2-tokens-create | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Sure thing. THanks! | 16:15 |
| eglute | thank you :) | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on scoring today? | 16:15 |
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| markvoelker | #topic TC Discussions to be aware of | 16:15 |
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| markvoelker | For those that might have missed it, there was a patch submitted to the governance repo recently that asked to change some language in the tc-apporoved-release tag | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/368240 patch to change language in tc-approved-release | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | The TC ultimately decided against the change, but did recognize that they should clarify the langauge in the tag a bit. | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | A new change does that: | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374027/ new patch | 16:17 |
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| markvoelker | Basically this means projects that want to be added to tc-approved-release are going to be coming to us and asking us to propose them for inclusion in the tag | 16:18 |
| eglute | markvoelker in the original patch designate is mentioned | 16:18 |
| eglute | do we need to consider scoring it? | 16:18 |
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| markvoelker | eglute: yes, the original patch was from the Designate PTL. We can consider scoring it if anyone's willing to take that on this cycle. I note the adoption rate is pretty low in the last user survey though. | 16:19 |
| eglute | hm, if adoption is low then it is not worth looking | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | See page 31: https://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April-2016-User-Survey-Report.pdf | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | Anyway, I'm happy to entertain the notion if someone wants to make a case for it. | 16:20 |
| * shamail looked it up: 17% | 16:20 | |
| markvoelker | I think it might be useful if we wrote up a lightweight process for this sort of thing so projects know how to ask us for consideration | 16:20 |
| shamail | markvoelker and egle, I would like to suggest a new source for “adoption data" | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | shamail: yes, and only 5% in production | 16:21 |
| shamail | yes | 16:21 |
| eglute | oh yeah, definitely too early | 16:21 |
| eglute | markvoelker agree, a doc would be good | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | shamail: sure, what source? | 16:21 |
| shamail | https://github.com/openstack/ops-tags-team/blob/master/mitaka/ops-production-use.json | 16:21 |
| shamail | Although it combines production + testing | 16:22 |
| shamail | The data here comes from the same source (user survey) but it probably is in a more consumable format for scoring | 16:22 |
| shamail | There is a new production-use tag every release | 16:22 |
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| markvoelker | Ok. If it's the same data then I suppose it's not really "new", just perhaps an easily-consumable format. Worth noting. | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | thanks for that | 16:23 |
| eglute | thanks shamail. though personally i like graphs :) | 16:23 |
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| shamail | Agreed eglute :) | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | Back to the guidance writeup for a moment: I don't mind taking a first cut and drafting a process for this. | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | Though I'll probably let scoring take priority for obvious reasons. =) | 16:24 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker! | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | #action markvoelker Begin drafting up docs for projects that want to be proposed for tc-approved-release | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | One other TC conversation folks may want to be aware of this week and next | 16:25 |
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| markvoelker | As I got started on scoring Neutron this past week I also started looking at Designated Sections | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | And that lead me to realize that we couldn't currently designate neutron-lib (which is common code split out of the main repo into it's own library in late 2015) | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | So I proposed a patch to governance to add it. | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371777/ Patch to make neutron-lib tc-approved-release | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | Most of the TC folks I've spoken to seem receptive, and it'll be on the agenda for the next TC meeting | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | You may want to watch for similar code refactoring in the projects you're scoring this time around. | 16:27 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker for bringing it up | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | (since I'm scoring glance, I'll be having a look at glance_store for example) | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | Anyway, just one more thing to consider. Adding code to tc-approved-release doesn't automatically make it designated, but it does allow us to consider designating it. | 16:28 |
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| eglute | :) | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on TC topics? | 16:29 |
| eglute | nope | 16:29 |
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| markvoelker | #topic Open Reviews | 16:29 |
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| markvoelker | We have a few in the queue (one less now thanks to eglute merging that next.json patch) | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | Add aliases for test_list_servers_filter_by_server_status | 16:30 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373987 Add aliases for test_list_servers_filter_by_server_status | 16:30 |
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| markvoelker | This seems pretty straightforward and should be a quick review | 16:31 |
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| markvoelker | I haven't looked at the latest patchset yet, but Ken'ichi iterated on some initial feedback earlier | 16:31 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371180/ Change compute-servers-delete test | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | This one proposes a new test to add for an existing capability. | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | I need to go read the code for that test a bit (see my comments in the patch) | 16:32 |
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| markvoelker | Seems like I remember us adding a test like this before, but we struck it because of implicit requirements....I may be mistaken though | 16:32 |
| markvoelker | Anyway, it would be useful if a few folks could take a look at the test that's being proposed thre | 16:33 |
| shamail | For 371180, don’t we need to update it to reflect the new next.json (post 367066 merge)? | 16:33 |
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| markvoelker | shamail: if it needs to be rebased jenkins will probably tell us shortly | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | It onyl changes one small section of the doc which likely doesn't conflict with 367066 | 16:35 |
| shamail | Okay :) | 16:35 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366360/ Add aliases for test_snapshots_list_* test. | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | THis one is also relatively simple, but it's WIP because the tempest change it reflects hasn't landed yet. | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | So, no action necessary here until catherine un-WIP's it | 16:36 |
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| markvoelker | Anything else on open reviews today? | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | #topic Renames | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Renames (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:37 | |
| markvoelker | shamail: you have the floor sir | 16:38 |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCore_Rename_Task_List | 16:38 |
| shamail | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCore_Rename_Task_List | 16:38 |
| shamail | :) | 16:38 |
| eglute | :) | 16:38 |
| shamail | hogepodge and I met last week to brainstorm on activities needed based on the rename to Interop WG | 16:38 |
| shamail | The etherpad contains our running list of tasks/artifacts and we added our name to a few of them but would be happy if others volunteered to complete certain aspects of the rename as well. | 16:39 |
| shamail | If you are interested/able to help with the rename, please add your name under the artifact you can help with. | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Thanks. I've got a patch up for some of the git repo stuff already, so I'll sign up for that bit. | 16:39 |
| shamail | I think the Git repo and Project info in projects.yaml is a related change | 16:40 |
| markvoelker | Sure, I can handle both | 16:40 |
| shamail | Thanks! | 16:40 |
| shamail | I would’ve done that but I had suggested it be an existing core member since you’ll have to recreate (or rename?) the gerrit groups as well and the creator would be given core automatically. | 16:41 |
| eglute | luzC just volunteered for RefStack bit. Thanks luzC! | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | Is the question for the later wether we should be in projects.yaml at all? Or just if we should change RefStack's description there? | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | * for the projects.yaml change that is | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | We aren't currently in projects.yaml IIRC. | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | (since we're a Board entity and not a "project") | 16:42 |
| shamail | markvoelker: fair point, I had added that item and then realized that our repo is elsewhere (under board repos) | 16:42 |
| shamail | so that line probably needs to be updated to reflect governance entry rather than projects.yaml explicitly (since it doesn’t apply to us) | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | shamail: Oh, actually....there's two projects.yamls and we *are* in one of them. =) | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | The governance one is the one I was thinking of, but there's also one in infra for jenkins jobs | 16:43 |
| shamail | I added a link to the right one in the etherpad | 16:43 |
| shamail | ah yes, that one needs to be updated too | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | Ok, I'll work on those then | 16:44 |
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| shamail | Can you please add the link in the etherpad for tracking? | 16:44 |
| shamail | Thanks | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | done | 16:44 |
| shamail | I have to speak with infra on the ML rename | 16:44 |
| shamail | It’s easy to create a new list but I am worried about how we will keep our archives accessible | 16:44 |
| markvoelker | Yep. We also need to think about not just the list of tasks, but coordinating them | 16:44 |
| shamail | Yeah | 16:45 |
| eglute | shamail is it possible to copy over the people who have subscibed to the list? | 16:45 |
| shamail | I can ask that as well | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | I'd really rather not have a situation where the repo is changed but the ML and website aren't for a few weeks, for example. | 16:45 |
| shamail | True markvoelker | 16:46 |
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| shamail | That’s all on this topic | 16:47 |
| shamail | Please volunteer | 16:47 |
| shamail | and I think also announce on either ML or IRC (or both?) when a rename task has been completed? | 16:47 |
| shamail | It will help serve as a reminder to people that the rename is happening and will help us stay coordinated too | 16:47 |
| gema | not just on our ML, on the dev mailing also, for all | 16:48 |
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| eglute | yes, and ops list | 16:49 |
| shamail | gema, eglute: +1 | 16:49 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, here again: I'd like to see us figure out the timing a bit. E.g. if you're submitting a patch to infra to rename the ML, mark it WIP until we're coordinated and communicated. | 16:50 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything further on renaming today? | 16:51 |
| markvoelker | #topic Refstack specs(pending) | 16:51 |
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| eglute | i am good | 16:52 |
| markvoelker | luzc: gema: I think this topic came from one of you? | 16:52 |
| gema | not me | 16:52 |
| luzC | yes, Catherine ask me to remained the group to review this spec | 16:52 |
| luzC | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ Specification to mark a test result as "used for verification". | 16:53 |
| luzC | it is from refstack: "mark a test result as "used for verification." | 16:53 |
| luzC | thanks Mark :) | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | ok, thanks luzC. Anything else? | 16:54 |
| luzC | not on my end :) | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | cool | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | Ok, that's the end of the formal agenda today | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | #topic open discussion | 16:54 |
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| hogepodge | The working group session at the summit is on Tuesday afternoon. I don't have a link but details are in the schedule. It's listed as a panel, maybe there's a better classification. Afk so that's all from me | 16:55 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge! | 16:55 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: thanks, we found the link and put it in the pad | 16:55 |
| eglute | only one time slot? | 16:55 |
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| hogepodge | Only one, time and space constrained | 16:55 |
| eglute | thanks! | 16:55 |
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| gema | we'll make the most of it x) | 16:55 |
| eglute | :) | 16:56 |
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| shamail | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/16798/interop-defcore-working-group-work-session | 16:56 |
| * shamail is presenting at this time, I will miss you guys. :[ | 16:57 | |
| markvoelker | bummer | 16:57 |
| eglute | #action eglute send out calendar invite to ML to this session | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | Anything else today folks? 3 minute warning. =) | 16:57 |
| eglute | we can finish early! | 16:58 |
| eglute | :D | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 16:58:34 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-09-21-16.00.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-09-21-16.00.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-09-21-16.00.log.html | 16:58 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker! | 16:58 |
| gema | eglute: 2 minutes early and you are so happy :D | 16:58 |
| eglute | of course :D | 16:58 |
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| gema | night folks! gonna crawl in a corner and sleep until my flight :D | 16:59 |
| gema | hogepodge: safe travels | 16:59 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 21 20:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:01 |
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| robcresswell | o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | hey 3 ptls in a row | 20:01 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | well, that's the usual suspects ;-) | 20:01 |
| tsufiev | o/ ;) | 20:01 |
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| robcresswell | Well thats everyone then :p | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
| robcresswell | Few things to talk through | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | Agenda is here: | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Horizon | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | First off, we've tagged RC1 and master is now open for Ocata development | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:03 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Ive added newton-rc-potential and newton-backport-potential tags to Launchpad | 20:03 |
| tsufiev | Some people are still grumpy at us for glanceV2 timing | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | So please tag bugs appropriately | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Are "some people" sahara? | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Or, are there others too? | 20:03 |
| tsufiev | Heh, and murano | 20:04 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | interesting. do you have email threads to point to, 'cos I think Imissed them | 20:04 |
| tsufiev | They implemented a horrible hack setting default glance version to 1 to make their CI pass | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | Unfortunately, the choice was made to to go for V2 so that glance can deprecate properly | 20:04 |
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| robcresswell | Yeah, there are services still relying on v1 | 20:04 |
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| robcresswell | It is unfortunate that we caused problems late in the day, but thats just how things are. I think everything has been fixed now in time for release. | 20:05 |
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| tsufiev | That's it https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1624423 | 20:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1624423 in Murano ocata "[dashboard] Murano should show error if glance v2 is used" [High,In progress] - Assigned to zhurong (zhu-rong) | 20:06 |
| tsufiev | I guess they were just too busy/desperate to complain in ML | 20:06 |
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| tsufiev | but yes, eventually they went through it | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (that images upload change in glance v2 was something I always meant to look into to fathom why they made the change) | 20:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | about the bug — we in murano relied on glance v1 to download images that are required for specific murano apps (when importing murano apps) | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | kzaitsev_mb: s/download/upload yes? | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | kzaitsev_mb: Sahara had a similar issue. They relied on copy-from iirc. | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: No, they mean download from a remote URL, right? | 20:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so if glance v1 is unavilable — we would just put up an error and say where to download the image by hand | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: they can download from a remote URL now, they can't upload a file blob | 20:07 |
| kzaitsev_mb | yep, well we downloaded/uploaded it to glance from a different source | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh, maybe I'm confused. let's not get stuck on this | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: I thought it was the other way round. You cant copy from a remote URL any more, but you can still upload from local. | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: other way around, I thought | 20:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | well downloading a 500+mb image in dashboard and uploading it to glance all in a http server's process somewhere seems like a bad idea to me | 20:08 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so we would just say that we can't and direct users to the url | 20:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | so they can upload it to glance by hand | 20:09 |
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| tsufiev | kzaitsev_mb: as i said in private, setting glance version to 1 was really an awful idea, since it disabled metadata features | 20:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | at least that's what I plan to have in newton release | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | kzaitsev_mb: Thats how upload works, straight to Glance | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | in the CORS implementation, iirc. | 20:09 |
| kzaitsev_mb | tsufiev: as I pointed to you — there is a commit that's going to revert that =) | 20:10 |
| tsufiev | So maybe it's partially our fault - i mean the lack of docs on fallback scenarios for that case | 20:10 |
| tsufiev | Okay | 20:10 |
| tsufiev | Just sharing my thoughts | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: Can you clear up mine and r1chardj0n3s debate? What is it that V2 doesnt support? local upload? or download from url? | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | bpokorny_: o/ if you're around, chime in :p | 20:11 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: upload by url i think | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: I'm just firing up the interface now to clear it up ;-) | 20:11 |
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| robcresswell | upload by url | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | lol | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | lol I broke my config "The current Horizon settings indicate no valid image creation methods are available. Providing an image location and/or uploading from the local file system must be allowed to support image creation." | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:12 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell: not my invention ;) | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | My understanding was that in V2 you can no longer pass a URL for Glance to copy the image from. | 20:12 |
| tsufiev | Yep, that's what i meant by 'upload via url' | 20:12 |
| bpokorny_ | Hi, sorry, I got pulled away. Reading.. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | yes. right. thanks tsufiev | 20:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | robcresswell: but if the image is on remote http — that's still a bad idea to download it from remote to some local storage and then to glance, isn't it? | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | But you can still upload from your local system fine | 20:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | or even directly to glance | 20:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | it's still a long-running process that can easily fail | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | kzaitsev_mb: Its a security concern, not the time length | 20:13 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sorry if I missed part of the conversation | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | kzaitsev_mb: Image upload/download will always be long-running, that is unavoidable. | 20:13 |
| tsufiev | kzaitsev_mb: as we told, there is nothing that horizon can do about that | 20:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | robcresswell: yep, the question is who should do the heavy-lifting | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | kzaitsev_mb: The disabling of copy-from I believe is a security concern, I believe | 20:14 |
| tsufiev | We cannot reinvent glance | 20:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | tsufiev: not blaming horizon on glance v2 design decisions =) | 20:14 |
| kzaitsev_mb | sorry if I sounded like that =) | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | kzaitsev_mb: Well, the only difference really is that you must have the image locally first via download, then upload to glance. Its time consuming. | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | No, I'm just being direct for clarity :) | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Otherwise we will keep going in circles. | 20:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | true ) | 20:15 |
| tsufiev | kzaitsev_mb: does glare support this feature? | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | SO, yes, in summary, we broke things, it would have been nice not to, but I still consider V2 compatibility more important than the risk of breakages. | 20:16 |
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| robcresswell | Next time we will try to get api features before FF, but if things slide, then there is little to be changed for critical work. | 20:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | tsufiev: idk =) | 20:16 |
| robcresswell | We have a few open RC2 bugs: | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah, as you say robcresswell, it's a timing thing. should have been in before FF, but unfortunately wasn't | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/newton-rc2 | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Yah :( Not ideal, but I don't regret allowing it in, either. | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yup | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | So stable cores, please keep your eyes on stable/newton, and backport theese fixes if appropriate | 20:18 |
| tsufiev | There was an increased rate of weirdness in integration tests recently (again!) | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | I would like to tag RC2 in the next 48 hours tbh. | 20:18 |
| bpokorny_ | Chiming in late: There's a way to switch to use v1 if people still need the glance v1 features. | 20:18 |
| tsufiev | One related to associate ip test, another to firefox rejecting selenium | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | hang on please | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev ^^ | 20:19 |
| tsufiev | Ack | 20:19 |
| bpokorny_ | If people need the Glance v1 behavior still, they can configure Horizon to use v1. | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | bpokorny_: Yeah, I think its that the o_d/api/glance.py changed some handling related to metadata | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | which broke services using it. | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | amongst other small changes. | 20:20 |
| bpokorny_ | I see. Yeah, handling of metadata had some changes at the API layer. | 20:21 |
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| robcresswell | Reminder about the summit planning: | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ocata-summit | 20:21 |
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| robcresswell | Please drop any thoughts or +1s and your names inline | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | Its a little rob-centric right now :p | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | Not that I don't love the sound of my own voice, clearly. | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I like that rob will continue running things | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | #topic Integration tests | 20:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Integration tests (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:23 | |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: I plan on being tipsy the entire summit :p | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | +1 | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: You wanted to talk about integration test issues? :) | 20:23 |
| tsufiev | Well, integration tests could use more than 1 troubleshooter | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | Sorry for interrupting earlier, I just wanted to get through notices. | 20:24 |
| tsufiev | Sure | 20:24 |
| tsufiev | I cannot dedicate all my time to them unfortunately, for example their refactoring to do less redundant things is completely stalled | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | Yes :( | 20:25 |
| robcresswell | I'd like to discuss testing at length in the summit sessions... its becoming problematic | 20:25 |
| tsufiev | Our other guy is fascinated by idea of writing his own testing framework, which i'm a bit skeptical about | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | We need to consider how move forward practically. Integration tests are currently relying on 1 or 2 people for all their fixing, which is not good. | 20:26 |
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| tsufiev | Mostly because tests are not a feature, it's a process of maintenance | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | Perhaps we should be much stricter on features, and simply block others so more bugs can be solved. But thats r1chardj0n3s decision :) | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | indeed, though david-lyle and I do have warm bodies we should be able to throw at the problem | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | \o/ | 20:27 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s: meaning tests improving? | 20:28 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: well, ultimately, we're at the mercy of corporate goals | 20:28 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: meaning whatever related to integration tests | 20:28 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (well, tests in general) | 20:28 |
| tsufiev | \o/ | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: yeah :/ | 20:28 |
| tsufiev | Also at least for 2 cycles we're going to do something about lightweight integration tests | 20:29 |
| tsufiev | Aka functional ones, but through browser | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | selenium? | 20:29 |
| tsufiev | The last sentence is my vision for them | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, that never turned into a plan after the midcycle | 20:29 |
| tsufiev | Yes | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think a BP is needed, to solidify the vision | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so we can all agree on that "lightweight" and "functional" mean :-) | 20:30 |
| * tsufiev makes a mental note | 20:30 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | and then we can point contributors at that BP | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | Got a bug I'd like to discuss, if we're done on testing | 20:31 |
| tsufiev | Planning is the hard task. Once you have the plan, it's very hard not to implement it yourself ;) | 20:31 |
| tsufiev | I mean, to resist the temptation | 20:32 |
| * tsufiev finished | 20:32 | |
| robcresswell | :) | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: go for it, I also have a bug to discuss | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | #topic RC2 bugs | 20:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC2 bugs (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:33 | |
| robcresswell | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1624743 | 20:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1624743 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Project image table: admin user sees images which are not shared with me" [High,New] | 20:33 |
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| tsufiev | Who is me ;)? | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | This is a sort of odd one. Its a bug because its a change in behaviour | 20:33 |
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| tsufiev | bpokorny: ^^ | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | I think its because of how the ng implementation is detecting the current context. | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | So it simply checks if they are an admin, but not if they are in the admin panel. | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | But thats just a theory | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | That sounds to me like the project and admin panel are identical. | 20:35 |
| r1chardj0n3s | if you're logged in as admin | 20:35 |
| tsufiev | Not the glanceV2 aftermath? | 20:35 |
| bpokorny_ | I think that bug is only for the django images panel. | 20:35 |
| lcastell_ | Is it? | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | this isnt v2, I think its the new ng panel | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | As it says "incompatible with the existing behavior" | 20:35 |
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| robcresswell | Effectively, if you are logged in as admin, the project panel is treated as the admin panel. | 20:36 |
| bpokorny_ | Ah, yep, you're right robcresswell. | 20:36 |
| bpokorny_ | That's for the ng images panel. | 20:37 |
| bpokorny_ | It's due to how the glance v2 API returns images for admins. | 20:37 |
| bpokorny_ | With glance v2, there's no way to specify as an admin "I want the list of images for a specific tenant, or that are shared with that tenant" | 20:38 |
| bpokorny_ | In 1 api call. | 20:38 |
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| bpokorny_ | Glance v1 had a way to do that. | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | Oh interesting | 20:38 |
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| robcresswell | So its more a v2 issue | 20:39 |
| bpokorny_ | When you get an image list for Glance v2 as an admin, you get all the images in the cloud. | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | I wonder how it behaves on v1 in ng images | 20:39 |
| bpokorny_ | There are filters that can be used in the API call that might be able to replicate what glance v1 used to return. | 20:40 |
| bpokorny_ | I'll test it out with v1 on ng images to see if it still works the same as before. | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | The question I had really, was whether we actually want to, given that you can use the faceted search with it | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | if its consistent with glance's behaviour, then I'd expect to stick with that, rather than filtering on the API call to change the data | 20:41 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | but you can't filter by project in the Project Images list, can you? | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | I think you can if you are an admin | 20:42 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | I'm looking at it right now, and you can't ;-) | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | Ah well, that changes things | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | huh, you can't filter by project (or owner) in the admin list either | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that's suboptimal | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | bpokorny_: If you get some time to dig into that, that would be very helpful. Could you leave comments on the bug report? | 20:43 |
| tsufiev | But you can by Owned facet, nope? | 20:43 |
| bpokorny_ | robcresswell: Yep, will do. | 20:43 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s: ^^ | 20:44 |
| robcresswell | thanks bpokorny_ | 20:44 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: nope http://i.imgur.com/N6e9Ggi.png | 20:44 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | that's the admin view | 20:44 |
| bpokorny_ | np | 20:44 |
| r1chardj0n3s | projects view is the same | 20:45 |
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| tsufiev | Maybe we should add the missing facet then... | 20:45 |
| robcresswell | I like that security testing image there too | 20:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell :-) | 20:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: yeah | 20:45 |
| robcresswell | agreed, tsufiev. Lets investigate a bit more and discuss tomorrow, I think. We need more info. | 20:46 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Did you want to use the last ten mins or so for the other bug? | 20:46 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: so I couldn't help noticing that https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1462922 is still marked Critical, a year and a half on, and we've been migrating away from run_tests anyway... | 20:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462922 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "run_tests without venv broken" [Critical,Confirmed] | 20:47 |
| tsufiev | Haha, horizon is very robust piece of software | 20:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | totes is | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | this has been around for a release or two | 20:48 |
| tsufiev | It can live with a critical bug for more than a year | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | ah, as you said | 20:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think it speaks to how "critical" the bug truly is, and I think it should be downgraded. | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | ++ | 20:48 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (I pinged mrunge/zigo about it yesteday, but got no response) | 20:49 |
| robcresswell | Ah yes, the packagers were not fond of these changes | 20:49 |
| zigo | o/ | 20:49 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: They are both UTC +2 I *think* | 20:49 |
| * zigo reads backlog | 20:50 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | zigo: this is regarding whether https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1462922 is still Critical, or even a valid bug any longer in light of the move to tox | 20:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462922 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "run_tests without venv broken" [Critical,Confirmed] | 20:50 |
| zigo | It's valid, but we can always have distro specific bugs. | 20:51 |
| zigo | Sorry, patch. | 20:51 |
| zigo | Which we do in such a case. | 20:51 |
| zigo | It'd be nice to have it fixed for the final release, I'd say. | 20:51 |
| zigo | Hum... | 20:52 |
| zigo | It was open a long time ago. | 20:52 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yes :-) | 20:52 |
| zigo | There's still "site-packages" which doesn't even exist in Debian (it's "dist-packages"). | 20:54 |
| zigo | What is this .js for? | 20:54 |
| r1chardj0n3s | right, so on looking into it further, I'm not sure the tox switch alters the basic problem that mrunge has, which is installation over the Internet during test setup, for the js tests | 20:55 |
| robcresswell | Yup :/ | 20:55 |
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| robcresswell | Vendor everything? :p | 20:55 |
| r1chardj0n3s | when I'm in charge, we're gonna vendor EVERYTHING | 20:55 |
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| david-lyle | you're fired | 20:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | uhoh | 20:56 |
| robcresswell | ...I've made a terrible mistake | 20:56 |
| robcresswell | :p | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | :D | 20:56 |
| jlopezgu | lol | 20:56 |
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| zigo | :) | 20:56 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ouch | 20:56 |
| david-lyle | haha | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | seems to be going really well for you r1chardj0n3s :/ | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | Almost at time | 20:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | The undermining has already begun | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | Hasn't even started yet | 20:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so we have a "critical" bug that downstream work around but we have no real solution for | 20:57 |
| david-lyle | I think he's tryiing to back out | 20:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hurm | 20:58 |
| david-lyle | there's no escape | 20:58 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: Too late, traps been sprung | 20:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | can't back away any further... unless I move to Tasmania | 20:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | it's nice down there | 20:58 |
| robcresswell | Lets defer this. Might be worth talking about at summit as a general to do, regarding dropping run_tests. | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | resolved: it's nice in Tasmania | 20:59 |
| david-lyle | good meeting | 20:59 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s: what's about syberia ;)? | 20:59 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: That sounds like a #success to me... | 20:59 |
| robcresswell | Thanks everyone! | 21:00 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 21:00:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-09-21-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-09-21-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
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