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| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 18 13:01:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 13:01 |
| matjazp | hey all | 13:01 |
| matjazp | roll call | 13:01 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hi | 13:01 |
| ildikov | o/ | 13:01 |
| matjazp | hi ildikov, ianychoi_phone | 13:02 |
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| matjazp | let's wait a bit for others | 13:02 |
| matjazp | how are you guys? | 13:02 |
| ianychoi_phone | I am fine although I have got a cold.. | 13:03 |
| matjazp | #link Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda | 13:03 |
| matjazp | ianychoi_phone: get better, Barcelona is near :) | 13:03 |
| ildikov | a bit stressed by now, otherwise fine :) | 13:03 |
| matjazp | ildikov : pressure not be will be off till the Summit ends, I'm suppose | 13:04 |
| ianychoi_phone | ildikov: don't be stressful! It's just our life! | 13:04 |
| matjazp | ildikov: lots on your plate, right? | 13:04 |
| matjazp | #topic Review of action items from the previous meeting | 13:05 |
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| ildikov | yeap, it's the event pressure, but it will be fine | 13:05 |
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| ildikov | training starts at 1pm local time this Sunday!!! :) | 13:05 |
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| matjazp | see meeting minutes at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-10-11-13.01.html | 13:05 |
| ildikov | I asked MArton and he's fine with me as training lead for Barcelona | 13:05 |
| ianychoi_phone | Oh good | 13:05 |
| matjazp | ildikov : I'll make an official announcement and get you +2 on the repo ASAP | 13:06 |
| ildikov | matjazp: thank you! | 13:06 |
| ianychoi_phone | Nice! | 13:06 |
| ildikov | I also sent out the mails yesterday to ask for confirmation that students can attend the training | 13:06 |
| matjazp | #info ildikov is a new Upstream training lead for Barcelona | 13:07 |
| ildikov | I added links to the VM and laptop requirements | 13:07 |
| ildikov | and also offered public cloud access if they need | 13:07 |
| ianychoi_phone | Thanks i have seen the patch | 13:07 |
| matjazp | #action matjazp makes an announcement and adds ildikov in the core team | 13:07 |
| ildikov | I think we are getting to 30 with confirmations, but i couldn't check all the responses yet | 13:07 |
| ildikov | ianychoi_phone: right, I added those to the main web page as well, not just to the mail | 13:08 |
| ianychoi_phone | Confirmation for..? | 13:08 |
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| ildikov | ianychoi_phone: for attending | 13:08 |
| ildikov | ianychoi_phone: we have a waiting list and also usually half of the registered students actually show up | 13:09 |
| ianychoi_phone | Aha i see .. i think e-mailing is not late :) | 13:09 |
| matjazp | I guess we won't know for sure until training starts | 13:09 |
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| ildikov | ianychoi_phone: I wanted to have an idea in advance what we can expect this time | 13:09 |
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| matjazp | ildikov : just 50%? | 13:09 |
| ianychoi_phone | ildikov: announcing the location was fixed? | 13:09 |
| ildikov | matjazp: not for sure, but at least I can have an idea what to say to the 13 people on the waiting list :) | 13:09 |
| ildikov | matjazp: in Austin I'm not sure it was even 50% | 13:09 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: that was my first but according to others it's around that | 13:10 |
| matjazp | ildikov : when we organize free trainings/workshops there are about 20% of no show students | 13:10 |
| ildikov | people usually register before they confirm their travel, etc. | 13:10 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: are those local ones? | 13:10 |
| matjazp | ildikov : yes, at my Uni, for our students | 13:11 |
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| matjazp | not just opentack workshops, I organize workshops for other CS topis too | 13:11 |
| ildikov | matjazp: that matters much, in case of Summits people need to travel and companies cut travel budget sometimes even in the very last minute | 13:11 |
| ildikov | anyway, waiting for responses now :) | 13:12 |
| ildikov | I also sent out the mail to the docs list | 13:12 |
| ildikov | I have a few people coming on Monday either in the morning or at the afternoon | 13:12 |
| csatari | #info csatari | 13:12 |
| matjazp | hey csatari | 13:12 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hi csatari | 13:13 |
| csatari | Hi matjazp , ianychoi_phone | 13:14 |
| matjazp | #info we're organising a training guides meeting in Barcelona. sync is over Docs ML: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-October/009241.html | 13:15 |
| matjazp | so we've covered everything but kmARC's item. ildikov do you know if he tested cloud VMs? | 13:16 |
| ildikov | matjazp: I synced about the VM image with him lately | 13:16 |
| ildikov | matjazp: I will ask him about the cloud environment later today/this week if he cannot make it to this meeting | 13:17 |
| matjazp | ildikov: ok | 13:17 |
| matjazp | we can move on | 13:17 |
| matjazp | #topic Upstream training - review queue | 13:18 |
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| ildikov | we have three open items now I think | 13:18 |
| ildikov | I'll upload at least one more hopefully today | 13:18 |
| matjazp | great | 13:18 |
| ildikov | and then I'll spend some time with figuring out the agenda | 13:18 |
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| matjazp | do we have something with urgent priorities? | 13:19 |
| ildikov | other than that we can think about exercises still | 13:19 |
| matjazp | training is in a few days | 13:19 |
| ianychoi_phone | yep I thought we need finalize content soon | 13:19 |
| matjazp | we can extend that final exercise | 13:19 |
| ildikov | I will have a meeting with the coaches tomorrow so I'll double check the agenda plans with them | 13:19 |
| matjazp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386728/ | 13:19 |
| ildikov | matjazp: yeap, I saw your comments | 13:20 |
| matjazp | especially if we want to make this exercise longer | 13:20 |
| ildikov | I think some of them can go to notes so that the trainers in the room know how to facilitate the session | 13:20 |
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| ildikov | I'm not sure about the length at this point TBH | 13:21 |
| ildikov | that makes it a bit tough to adjust it | 13:21 |
| ianychoi_phone | diablo_rojo wants to revise it? | 13:21 |
| ildikov | ianychoi_phone: she's arrived to Spain this morning, I think she can check on it later in the afternoon (local time) | 13:21 |
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| ildikov | ianychoi_phone: I can update it if she's not available | 13:22 |
| ianychoi_phone | I see :) | 13:22 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Kendall seems to be so busy..:) | 13:23 |
| ildikov | well, I think this close to the event it's not just her :) | 13:23 |
| matjazp | so do we leave Ian's step by step tutorial like it is? | 13:23 |
| ildikov | I still think a shorter block would be better | 13:24 |
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| matjazp | you mean with fewer pics? | 13:24 |
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| matjazp | just bullets on the slides? | 13:24 |
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| ildikov | I would like to aim for 45 minutes long blocks if possible, so less slides + exercise ideally | 13:24 |
| ildikov | matjazp: I would move a few pics to other sections | 13:25 |
| ildikov | matjazp: so keep them, just not here | 13:25 |
| ildikov | matjazp: ianychoi_phone: if we feel that it's too much now then merge as is | 13:25 |
| ildikov | matjazp: ianychoi_phone: we can always re-organise it later | 13:25 |
| matjazp | ildikov : yup, maybe that's better | 13:26 |
| ildikov | either before or after the training as the content itself is useful | 13:26 |
| matjazp | we're damn close to the training | 13:26 |
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| kmARC | IM HERE | 13:26 |
| ianychoi_phone | ildikov: I suggest to merge first.. yep so close to the training | 13:26 |
| matjazp | hey kmARC | 13:26 |
| kmARC | (sorry :-) ) | 13:26 |
| ianychoi_phone | kmARC: hi | 13:26 |
| ildikov | I know that we are close! ;) :) | 13:26 |
| ildikov | kmARC: hi :) | 13:26 |
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| matjazp | kmARC : did you have time to test the cloud VMs? | 13:27 |
| kmARC | So regarding cloud VM's | 13:27 |
| ildikov | kmARC: did you have a chance to check the cloud env? | 13:27 |
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| kmARC | :-) | 13:27 |
| matjazp | :) | 13:27 |
| kmARC | yes I did | 13:27 |
| ildikov | :) | 13:27 |
| ianychoi_phone | !! | 13:27 |
| openstack | ianychoi_phone: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 13:27 |
| kmARC | I did separate my scripts so that now it's able to setup GUI-less environments too | 13:27 |
| kmARC | So basically that should work on the cloud VM (altho I didn't document it yet) | 13:28 |
| kmARC | but unfortunately the GUI mode doesn't | 13:28 |
| kmARC | it's painfully slow over VNC | 13:28 |
| kmARC | :-( | 13:28 |
| ildikov | :( | 13:28 |
| ianychoi_phone | kmARC: i suggest xrdp instead of vnc personally :) | 13:28 |
| ildikov | but well, should be fine for hackers :) | 13:29 |
| kmARC | VNC is the openstack default | 13:29 |
| ianychoi_phone | VNC console is default | 13:29 |
| matjazp | kmARC : will you be able to add to the instructions a paragraph or two about using this in a cloud vm? | 13:29 |
| ildikov | I think it's still a good experience even without GUI | 13:29 |
| ianychoi_phone | ildikov: +1 | 13:30 |
| kmARC | ildikov: I'm not sure everyone would be satusfied or comfortable with a console-only setup. For someone whoose workflow needs GUI editors/IDEs, it won't work | 13:30 |
| ildikov | kmARC: also does "it should work" equal to "it does work"? :) | 13:30 |
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| kmARC | well, I tried it, it installs, I had some network issues, so I'd say 95% it works (which usually means it's 50%: it either works or not) | 13:31 |
| ildikov | kmARC: if we want them to do everything in that env that can be uncomfortable, but still a useful experience | 13:31 |
| ildikov | kmARC: we will form group of students, so I hope we can mix up people with different envs, so everyone has a chance to see how things look like/work | 13:31 |
| kmARC | ildikov: well, but then they need to use some console editor like nano/vim/emacs | 13:31 |
| ildikov | kmARC: no better idea at this point | 13:31 |
| matjazp | as a last resort: we can always make pairs at the training and pair the ones that don't have te right hw with one that it has | 13:31 |
| ildikov | kmARC: vi is the best ;) | 13:32 |
| kmARC | I also tried X forwarding, but that's even worse than VNC | 13:32 |
| ildikov | matjazp: yeap, groups should solve the problem | 13:32 |
| ildikov | kmARC: I don't like X forwarding | 13:33 |
| kmARC | ildikov: TBH I'd love to teach thenm how to use vim (I am expert on that at least) but most probably a two-day wortkshop is not enough for it :-) | 13:33 |
| matjazp | ianychoi_phone : the #openstack-101 bot support patch merged, right? | 13:33 |
| ianychoi_phone | matjazp: right! | 13:33 |
| ildikov | kmARC: lol :) most probably | 13:33 |
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| ianychoi_phone | I suggest all to test to open irc meeting on #openstack-101 before upstream training | 13:34 |
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| matjazp | #action ianychoi_phone tests #openstack-101 before upstream training | 13:34 |
| matjazp | just test it if the bot works | 13:35 |
| ianychoi_phone | Yep okay i will do that :) | 13:35 |
| ildikov | :) | 13:36 |
| ildikov | I can give it a try too after the meeting | 13:36 |
| matjazp | #undo | 13:36 |
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| matjazp | #action ianychoi_phone and ildikov tests #openstack-101 before upstream training | 13:36 |
| ildikov | matjazp: tnx :) | 13:36 |
| ianychoi_phone | I suggest ildikov also tests it :) | 13:36 |
| ianychoi_phone | Yep cool | 13:36 |
| matjazp | kmARC : do you want to test #openstack-101 too ;) | 13:37 |
| kmARC | I tested with utf-8 chars :-) | 13:37 |
| csatari | It works well. | 13:37 |
| matjazp | ok that covers the review queue | 13:38 |
| matjazp | did we miss smthng? | 13:38 |
| kmARC | okay sorry guys, bad news | 13:38 |
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| kmARC | I only managed to run devstack with two NICs if we want to start VMs | 13:39 |
| kmARC | however on dreamhost I can't add another one | 13:39 |
| ildikov | hmm | 13:39 |
| ildikov | there are still things that we can do | 13:40 |
| matjazp | kmARC : can we contact someone at Dreamhost? | 13:40 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hmm... | 13:40 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: we can ask Stefano, if this is an issue for us now | 13:40 |
| kmARC | (devstack would set up a bridge, which then in turn i guess needs promisc mode nics, which isn't something that you will get in a cloud environment, however if it's on a private network, like in the vagrant config, then it works) | 13:40 |
| matjazp | kmARC : or is it not technically supported? | 13:40 |
| kmARC | I think it can be a quota issue, so then I could create my own private network | 13:40 |
| kmARC | but first let's decide how important it is for us to be able to run VMs | 13:41 |
| ildikov | kmARC: we might test basic commands, but I think we can live without that | 13:41 |
| kmARC | me too | 13:41 |
| csatari | +1 | 13:41 |
| ildikov | kmARC: it's not an OpenStack training that's about the software itself | 13:41 |
| ildikov | so no one should complain | 13:42 |
| csatari | Yes and devstack is only one tool what we use. | 13:42 |
| ildikov | let's think about exercises that does not require to start a VM | 13:42 |
| csatari | list images | 13:42 |
| ildikov | also we can still say that let's do a group exercise on one laptop with local VM | 13:42 |
| csatari | or flavors | 13:43 |
| matjazp | hmmm.. if Dreamhost can add a new nics easily, than we can still use it. If not, we can't do anything about it anyway... too close to the training | 13:43 |
| ildikov | kmARC: we can also give the exercise to them to figure out why they can't start a VM ;) | 13:43 |
| csatari | :) | 13:43 |
| ianychoi_phone | :) | 13:44 |
| matjazp | let's make that a closing exercise | 13:44 |
| matjazp | debugging neutron | 13:44 |
| ildikov | matjazp: right, we're pretty close for that | 13:44 |
| ildikov | matjazp: that sounds like a cruel one :) | 13:44 |
| matjazp | over IPv6 only network | 13:44 |
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| matjazp | anything else for upstream training? | 13:45 |
| matjazp | or can we move on? | 13:45 |
| csatari | I have one question | 13:46 |
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| csatari | I git review -d out this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386752/ | 13:46 |
| csatari | After compiling it the training-guides/doc/upstream-training/build/slides/index.html us half chinese half korean and some english. | 13:47 |
| csatari | Like: "OpenStack Upstream Training の開催日時および開催場所" | 13:47 |
| matjazp | ? | 13:47 |
| csatari | What do I do wrong. | 13:47 |
| matjazp | ianychoi_phone: smthng with translation? | 13:47 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hmm.. some translations are included but not the file nope | 13:48 |
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| matjazp | csatari : did you changed anything? | 13:48 |
| ildikov | I don't use git review, what's '-d'? | 13:48 |
| ianychoi_phone | ildikov: detach from gerrit | 13:48 |
| matjazp | download a review in a branch | 13:48 |
| csatari | Not yet | 13:48 |
| ildikov | hmm, interesting | 13:48 |
| ianychoi_phone | csatari: does you have some uncleaned files? | 13:48 |
| csatari | git review -d 386752 | 13:48 |
| matjazp | Download change from Gerrit into a local branch. The branch will be named after the patch author and the name of a topic. If the local branch already exists, it | 13:48 |
| matjazp | will attempt to update with the latest patchset for this change. | 13:48 |
| csatari | gets the review branch to my machine, so I can compile the docs/ | 13:48 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Or sharing your tox execution logs to paste.openstack.o.o would be good | 13:49 |
| csatari | I'm clean. | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Strange.. at least Jenkins build is fine :) | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi_phone | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/52/386752/5/check/gate-training-guides-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/8130760//publish-docs/upstream-training/ | 13:50 |
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| ianychoi_phone | csatari: please share tox execution full log. Top lines from local library versions are helpful to debug your situation | 13:52 |
| csatari | http://pastebin.com/U1gW1gA2 | 13:53 |
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| matjazp | ok, it's 8 min to the end... anyone has anything else to discuss? this is the last meeting before training | 13:53 |
| matjazp | we can debug this later | 13:53 |
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| matjazp | #topic aob | 13:54 |
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| csatari | +1 | 13:54 |
| ildikov | just please keep an eye on the review queue during the week | 13:54 |
| matjazp | ildikov : sure | 13:54 |
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| ildikov | otherwise we should be fine, or well, it is what it is at this point | 13:54 |
| matjazp | I hope to see you all there | 13:54 |
| ianychoi_phone | Yep | 13:55 |
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| ianychoi_phone | I will be only Friday | 13:55 |
| ianychoi_phone | But.. Prior meetings would be welcome! | 13:55 |
| matjazp | ianychoi_phone : yes, I hope we'll meet at the docs meetup | 13:55 |
| ianychoi_phone | matjazp: let's try to meet on lunch time first :) | 13:56 |
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| matjazp | ianychoi_phone : yup, we can all sync over ML | 13:57 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Yep | 13:57 |
| matjazp | ok.. that's it, I guess | 13:57 |
| matjazp | thanks for your time | 13:57 |
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| ildikov | yeap, ML should be fine for sync | 13:58 |
| matjazp | see you all next week | 13:58 |
| ildikov | see you guys next week | 13:58 |
| ildikov | safe travels everyone! | 13:58 |
| ianychoi_phone | Thank you all! Let's wish for successful upstream training! | 13:58 |
| matjazp | bye | 13:58 |
| ildikov | ianychoi_phone: tnx :) | 13:58 |
| ianychoi_phone | :) | 13:58 |
| ianychoi_phone | Bye all | 13:58 |
| kmARC | bye bye | 13:59 |
| ildikov | Bye | 13:59 |
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| matjazp | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 18 13:59:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-10-18-13.01.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-10-18-13.01.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-10-18-13.01.log.html | 13:59 |
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| tdurakov | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 18 14:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | hi everyone | 14:00 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:00 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:00 |
| wznoinsk | o/ | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| scsnow | hi | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | #topic CI | 14:01 |
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| tdurakov | update on ceph | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387836/ - start moving local changes to fit upstream gates | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | this change uses devstack ceph plugin | 14:02 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: any updates on grenade? | 14:03 |
| pkoniszewski | sure | 14:03 |
| tdurakov | except I could see it on the list of jobs:) | 14:03 |
| pkoniszewski | so patches are still in the same place, tempest change got some reviews but still not merged yet | 14:03 |
| pkoniszewski | one thing I noticed is that grenade+LM job fails on all patches to, e.g., stable/newton | 14:04 |
| pkoniszewski | http://logs.openstack.org/76/386676/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode-live-migration-nv/b5ac5ce/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2016-10-14_16_12_48_938 | 14:04 |
| pkoniszewski | probably something that we need to care about | 14:04 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: is it only about grenade? | 14:05 |
| pkoniszewski | mriedem: thoughts? should i change this job to use trusty when testing on stable/newton? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski: no, i'd talk to infra/qa about what that failure is | 14:05 |
| pkoniszewski | okay | 14:05 |
| mriedem | we were testing master dsvm jobs with xenial in newton | 14:05 |
| mriedem | so newton should be able to handle xenial | 14:05 |
| pkoniszewski | ok, so i will ask infra about this | 14:06 |
| pkoniszewski | that's all I think | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | I'd expect xenial to be added to the list | 14:06 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: what is the first patch in queue to push grenade forward? | 14:07 |
| pkoniszewski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379638/ | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | btw | 14:08 |
| pkoniszewski | this is tempest change so that tests will do ping-pong live migrations | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386967/ | 14:08 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: is it tested in grenade? | 14:09 |
| pkoniszewski | let me check | 14:09 |
| tdurakov | I mean is it possible to check that ping-pong is used in any of the jobs? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: it'll be used in the gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode-live-migration-nv job | 14:10 |
| mriedem | i tested the stack with a wip d-g change | 14:10 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: I saw that patch on prev week, the only thing that stops me to +1 that it would be really cool that it works in gate, imo | 14:11 |
| mriedem | it's non-voting for now | 14:11 |
| mriedem | well, i'm not sure what you mean by 'gate' | 14:11 |
| mriedem | the job won't be in the gate queue b/c it's non-voting | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | i believe gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode-live-migration-nv is in nova's experimental queue right now | 14:12 |
| mriedem | tested the change here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380840/ | 14:13 |
| mriedem | once the series is merged then the job in nova's experimental queue will run the back and forth stuff | 14:13 |
| mriedem | once we are comfortable with it being stable we can move to non-voting check queue | 14:13 |
| pkoniszewski | grenade job isn't experimental, it's just non-voting | 14:13 |
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| pkoniszewski | i mean, it's already in non-voting check queue | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | requested experimental for tempest change | 14:14 |
| mriedem | yeah you're right i guess it's in the check queue https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L12036 | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | dsvm-tempest-live-migration should be triggered | 14:14 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: the tempest chagne won't test itself anyway | 14:14 |
| mriedem | b/c of the config option you have to set in the devstack change | 14:14 |
| mriedem | all of that defaults to not run the back and forth live migration | 14:14 |
| mriedem | that's what the d-g change at the top of the dep chain is for | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: just want to be sure that we will not break simple live-migration | 14:15 |
| mriedem | it won't, it's already been verified | 14:15 |
| mriedem | and it only runs in the live migration + grenade job | 14:15 |
| mriedem | which is non-voting | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | okay | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | +1 then | 14:15 |
| tdurakov | mriedem, pkoniszewski thanks for clarification | 14:16 |
| tdurakov | anything else on ci? | 14:16 |
| wznoinsk | one thing from me | 14:16 |
| tdurakov | sure | 14:16 |
| wznoinsk | we started to run multinode + LM recently http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/05/355805/4/check/tempest-dsvm-multinode-ovsdpdk-nfv-networking-xenial/b52122e/testr_results.html.gz | 14:16 |
| wznoinsk | it's only api LM test, I guess next step is to wait for more LM tests merged in tempest or shouldw e look at nova/tests as well? | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | no, only tempest, imo | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | if it possible it would be good to have a job to test live-migration with nfv features, i.e. sr-iov | 14:18 |
| pkoniszewski | +1, that's the biggest issue i have with pushing sr-iov live migration forward | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: what do you think? | 14:19 |
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| pkoniszewski | currently we cannot run such LM tests because basically it will not work | 14:20 |
| wznoinsk | that's the long term plan, at the moment we're getting sriov CI right, next step is multinode + LM, not sure whether we'll be ready by the EOY tho | 14:20 |
| wznoinsk | pkoniszewski: we can take it offline I guess | 14:21 |
| pkoniszewski | sure | 14:21 |
| pkoniszewski | thanks | 14:21 |
| tdurakov | ok, let's go next | 14:21 |
| wznoinsk | btw. the link above includes nfv features like numa and cpu pinning, hugepages | 14:21 |
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| wznoinsk | http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/05/355805/4/check/tempest-dsvm-multinode-ovsdpdk-nfv-networking-xenial/b52122e/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz look for hugepage | 14:22 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk:yay, it would be great to have tempest-tests for these features | 14:23 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov: we have them running https://github.com/openstack/intel-nfv-ci-tests , not on a multi-node nor in a live-migration context | 14:23 |
| wznoinsk | http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/55/387855/1/check/tempest-dsvm-intel-nfv-xenial/0b0ce6f/ | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: let's merge them to tempest/master? | 14:24 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov: that's TODO, yes | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: do you need help with that? | 14:25 |
| tdurakov | we could try to find volunteers | 14:25 |
| wznoinsk | probably not but let's talk after the meeting | 14:25 |
| tdurakov | ok | 14:26 |
| tdurakov | #topic bugs | 14:26 |
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| paul-carlton2 | I have a couple I'd like to to discuss | 14:26 |
| tdurakov | yes please | 14:27 |
| paul-carlton2 | we have a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1600251 waiting for review | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1600251 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration does not honor server group policy" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Paul Carlton (paul-carlton2) | 14:27 |
| paul-carlton2 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1628606 also has a fix for review but maybe needs some discussion | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628606 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration does not clean up at target node if a failure occurs during post migration" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Paul Carlton (paul-carlton2) | 14:27 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: that one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339588/ ? | 14:28 |
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| paul-carlton2 | And finally, I'm trying to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1633033 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1633033 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration with encrypted volume fails" [Undecided,New] | 14:28 |
| paul-carlton2 | tdurakov, yep | 14:28 |
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| tdurakov | for the second one there is a patch on review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379491 | 14:31 |
| tdurakov | I've already reviewed it, so could discuss it right now, or wait more feedback first | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | i will take a look on that | 14:32 |
| paul-carlton2 | Happy to discuss on review or here, as per my reply I can do something to avoid calling a method twice if needed but would like some more input, ta pkoniszewski | 14:33 |
| pkoniszewski | but the thing we need to do is to change the way computes are communicating in post live migration, basically this is what tdurakov is working on | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | yes, it's in progress, but we could merge suitable hotfix that could be backported | 14:34 |
| pkoniszewski | currently it is all about adding some try-except blocks | 14:34 |
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| pkoniszewski | we can't really do anything else | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | how critical for example to fail on termination of volume connection? | 14:35 |
| pkoniszewski | it isn't critical at all, VM on source is not running anyway and will be removed by libvirt (or nova) | 14:36 |
| pkoniszewski | but there might be a security risk | 14:36 |
| paul-carlton2 | the problem is that at this stage the instance is running on the target and needs to be updated to reflect that | 14:37 |
| pkoniszewski | got it, this is critical to have instance host updated | 14:37 |
| paul-carlton2 | the issue with failure to clean up on source is an issue too | 14:37 |
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| paul-carlton2 | but hard to solve automatically | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | I'd prefer to not doing double rpc casts here | 14:38 |
| paul-carlton2 | It is vital the host is update because it has started running on the target although Nova still thinkis it is on source | 14:38 |
| tdurakov | could we wrap the code that way, so we could guarantee only one rpc to destination? | 14:39 |
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| tdurakov | wrap=try/except | 14:39 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2^ | 14:39 |
| paul-carlton2 | tdurakov, happy to try something like that, the vital thing is to update the instance host | 14:40 |
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| pkoniszewski | i'd go different way, so that post_live_migration_at_desetination is always called regardless of what happens in _post_live_migration | 14:40 |
| paul-carlton2 | The really important thing is that the code in the finally block runs | 14:41 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: that might work | 14:41 |
| pkoniszewski | it will still require manual cleanup, but the host will always be updated during post steps | 14:42 |
| pkoniszewski | i will post my comments in patch | 14:42 |
| paul-carlton2 | pkoniszewski, ta | 14:42 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: let's try to remove rpc from _post_live_migration and put it to finally section on the new try/except block | 14:43 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: what's about the last one bug? | 14:44 |
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| paul-carlton2 | Yes, trying to fix it, anyone tried live migration of instances with encrypted volumes before | 14:45 |
| paul-carlton2 | I get a keyphrase error in devstack which I need to figure out how to overcome | 14:46 |
| tdurakov | haven't tried that case | 14:46 |
| tdurakov | 13 minutes left | 14:47 |
| paul-carlton2 | In our product I've almost got it fixed, just fails when defining guest on target due to os-brick command err | 14:47 |
| paul-carlton2 | ok, will post a WIP fix later this week, would appreciate input | 14:47 |
| tdurakov | paul-carlton2: feel free to add folks from team to review the change | 14:48 |
| paul-carlton2 | ta | 14:48 |
| tdurakov | #topic summit | 14:48 |
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| tdurakov | who is going to Barcelona? | 14:48 |
| pkoniszewski | i'm going | 14:48 |
| * tdurakov not going | 14:48 | |
| tdurakov | mriedem: do we have a slot for live-migration in design sessions? | 14:49 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:49 |
| mriedem | we have one for the imagebackend refactor in libvirt | 14:49 |
| paul-carlton2 | nor me | 14:49 |
| mriedem | part retrospective, part plan for ocata | 14:50 |
| mriedem | on that blueprint | 14:50 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: acked | 14:50 |
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| wznoinsk | not me | 14:50 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: There's Friday meet-up space, IIRC, for ad-hoc sessions | 14:50 |
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| tdurakov | kashyap: right | 14:51 |
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| tdurakov | I think to prepare topics to discuss on that | 14:51 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: Isn't there already an etherpad? | 14:52 |
| pkoniszewski | i will probably want to cover sr-iov LM on this session, but we will see | 14:52 |
| pkoniszewski | depends what happens with nova-neutron interactions | 14:52 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-summit-meetup | 14:52 |
| tdurakov | so please put your topics here^ | 14:53 |
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| tdurakov | #topic Open discussions | 14:54 |
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| tdurakov | we have ~5 minutes | 14:54 |
| scsnow | tdurakov, rg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355805/ | 14:54 |
| scsnow | you've mentioned that reno node is required for this change. how to add that? | 14:54 |
| scsnow | note* | 14:55 |
| pkoniszewski | reno new name-of-release-note | 14:55 |
| pkoniszewski | but don't we want to have at least specless blueprint for that? | 14:55 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: what do you think? | 14:56 |
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| tdurakov | I think we could have one, no specs, just bp | 14:57 |
| scsnow | ok, I'll add bp. And what about reno? | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | scsnow: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html | 14:58 |
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| scsnow | pkoniszewski, ok, thanks. will take a look. | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: thanks for the link | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | so | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | thanks for coming | 14:59 |
| pkoniszewski | thanks! | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 18 14:59:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-10-18-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| scsnow | bye | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-10-18-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-10-18-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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