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| yushiro | Hi | 04:00 |
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| chandanc | Hello | 04:00 |
| SridarK_ | Hi All | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 19 04:00:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:00 | |
| SarathMekala | Hi all O/ | 04:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #chair SridarK_ yushiro | 04:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK_ njohnston yushiro | 04:00 |
| njohnston | #chair xgerman | 04:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK_ njohnston xgerman yushiro | 04:01 |
| SridarK_ | lets get started and move quickly | 04:01 |
| SridarK_ | #topic FWaaS v2 | 04:01 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:01 | |
| SridarK_ | yushiro: welcome back hope u had a good holiday | 04:01 |
| yushiro | SridarK_, Thank you so much. Yes, everything was perfect :) | 04:02 |
| SridarK_ | perhaps u can kick things of with a quick update on CLI | 04:02 |
| yushiro | yes | 04:03 |
| yushiro | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351582/ | 04:03 |
| yushiro | I discussed with Akihiro and decided to meet in summit with OSC team. | 04:04 |
| SridarK_ | yushiro: ok, so u think maybe we can move for getting this merged next week | 04:04 |
| SridarK_ | we can help with reviews on our side | 04:04 |
| yushiro | SridarK_, I hope so. However, I and Akihiro need to discuss about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348097 | 04:05 |
| SridarK_ | it may be a bit tight with the summit but u could get some good traction with the OSC team | 04:05 |
| SridarK_ | yushiro: ok got it | 04:05 |
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| yushiro | Yeah, our OSC plugin patch is looks good except some TODOs, but OSC utilities need to discuss with OSC teams. | 04:06 |
| SridarK_ | yushiro: ok | 04:06 |
| yushiro | We got some comments from OSC team to move this utility into osc-lib. | 04:06 |
| SridarK_ | lets move on | 04:06 |
| SridarK_ | oh sorry | 04:06 |
| SridarK_ | pls go ahead | 04:06 |
| yushiro | In summit, I know a core reviewer in OSC, I and Akihiro will discuss about that. | 04:07 |
| SridarK_ | ok | 04:07 |
| yushiro | That's all for me. | 04:07 |
| yushiro | thanks | 04:07 |
| SridarK_ | thx yushiro | 04:07 |
| yushiro | OK, please go ahead :) | 04:07 |
| SridarK_ | lets get into L2 agent | 04:07 |
| SridarK_ | padkrish: yushiro: pls go ahead if there are updates | 04:08 |
| yushiro | SridarK_, : currently, I'm busy for preparing for summit and I couldn't check deeply.. padkrish , is there some update? | 04:09 |
| padkrish | SridarK_# Actually much much from me last week....just got a little done on rule/policy/group updates | 04:09 |
| padkrish | i mean "not much" from me | 04:09 |
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| padkrish_ | SridarK_# Actually not much from me last week....just got a little done on rule/policy/group updates | 04:10 |
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| SridarK_ | padkrish: ok cool, i think we can continue to refine the methods needed for port association and also on the default fwg | 04:11 |
| padkrish_ | SridarK_# ok, also wanted to get some brain dump on how rule/policy updates are done for L3 | 04:11 |
| SridarK_ | padkrish_: We will do a bit of a whiteboard discussion with default fwg at the summit and can update | 04:12 |
| padkrish_ | Don't believe there's any different for L2 | 04:12 |
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| padkrish_ | SridarK_# ok | 04:12 |
| SridarK_ | padkrish_: yes rule, policy updates are similar | 04:12 |
| SridarK_ | if the rule is a part of a policy that is associated with a fwg (with ports) then an update is trigerred to the agent | 04:13 |
| SridarK_ | will be same for L2 | 04:13 |
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| SridarK_ | #action SridarK_: to discuss default fwg with FWaaS team at the summit and update all via email | 04:15 |
| padkrish_ | SridarK#ok, that will have the complete dictionary, i believe....so no need to cache at the agent, right? | 04:15 |
| SridarK_ | padkrish_: yes | 04:15 |
| padkrish_ | SridarK_# sounds good.. | 04:15 |
| SridarK_ | ok if nothing else we can move to the driver | 04:15 |
| SridarK_ | chandanc: SarathMekala: pls go ahead | 04:16 |
| SridarK_ | thx for getting things moving on the reviews out for neutron | 04:16 |
| chandanc | The Conntrack patch got a review from kevinbenton, i have fixed the comments and put some explanation | 04:16 |
| chandanc | the IPtables driver patch got UT fixes for some more cases | 04:17 |
| SridarK_ | chandanc: yes thx, try to get some IRC time with him and we can also follow up more at the summit | 04:17 |
| chandanc | I am still trying to get kevinbenton to look in to the second patch | 04:17 |
| chandanc | sure | 04:17 |
| SridarK_ | thx chandanc | 04:17 |
| chandanc | getting a review of the iptables patch is critical | 04:18 |
| SridarK_ | yes absolutely | 04:18 |
| chandanc | also we need to have some discussion on [Challengable work] Support logging API for firewall-rule (I will update BP, spec and source code for review soon - hoangcx) | 04:18 |
| chandanc | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-ocata | 04:18 |
| chandanc | sorry i pasted the wrong one | 04:19 |
| chandanc | copy paste | 04:19 |
| SridarK_ | chandanc: yes :-) | 04:19 |
| njohnston | yes, I have noticed there has been some activity on the logging API stuff | 04:19 |
| yushiro | :) | 04:19 |
| chandanc | i mean there was an alternative conntrack approach | 04:19 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: +1 and hoangcx and team have been pushing this for some time | 04:19 |
| chandanc | let me find the link | 04:19 |
| chandanc | 13. Using Netlink instead of conntrack-tools to improve performance https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1630832 (hoangcx) | 04:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1630832 in neutron "[RFE] FWaaS: Using Netlink instead of conntrack-tools to improve performance" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 04:20 |
| SridarK_ | So we had a quick discussion with hoangcx yesterday on this on IRC | 04:20 |
| njohnston | ah yes, I saw that but I don't know that much about netlink | 04:20 |
| SridarK_ | there is interest in pursuing for reasons of scale | 04:20 |
| chandanc | this may have some impact on the ip conntrack | 04:20 |
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| SridarK_ | this will need some attention from the drivers team as it is relevant to Sec groups as well | 04:21 |
| SridarK_ | hoangcx: will be pursuing this | 04:21 |
| chandanc | yes, but may be initially we can go with the conntrack patch | 04:21 |
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| SridarK_ | perhaps we can have some discussions next week | 04:21 |
| SridarK_ | chandanc: yes absolutlely | 04:21 |
| SridarK_ | i dont think any of our current direction changes | 04:21 |
| chandanc | ya | 04:22 |
| chandanc | Thats all for the driver update from my side | 04:22 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:22 |
| SarathMekala | No updates from my side.. was busy with some deliverables | 04:22 |
| SridarK_ | SarathMekala: ok | 04:23 |
| SridarK_ | #topic Neutron Stadium Compliance | 04:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Neutron Stadium Compliance (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:23 | |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: pls go ahead | 04:23 |
| njohnston | Hi! So, as before we are tracking our compliance items in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-meeting | 04:23 |
| njohnston | I think we have some good action on many of them | 04:24 |
| SridarK_ | +1 | 04:24 |
| njohnston | chandanc has a great patch up for multinode testing, and I have one for grenade testing, I think those will merge soon | 04:24 |
| SridarK_ | +1 | 04:24 |
| yushiro | +++1 | 04:24 |
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| njohnston | the api reference appears to already be in flight https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363967/ | 04:24 |
| yushiro | great work, njohnston and chandanc :) | 04:25 |
| SridarK_ | On my part, i started work on the tempest tests for v2, will get a review out in a day or two | 04:25 |
| njohnston | excellent! | 04:25 |
| njohnston | I have been working on making myself a part of the neutron-lib effort, but It wouldn't be a bad thing for other FWaaS cores to get in on the action. :-) I am tracking the punchlist here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_lib_fwaas_punchlist | 04:26 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: +1 | 04:26 |
| njohnston | a couple of n-l changes are in flight, so I think we are probably looking all right from that perspective | 04:26 |
| chandanc | +1 | 04:26 |
| njohnston | I think the main remaining issues are documentation and tempest | 04:26 |
| SridarK_ | yes absolutely | 04:26 |
| njohnston | oh, and I am working on fullstack, but at a little lower priority than the others | 04:26 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: we could also take some time to work thru some of the documentation next week | 04:27 |
| njohnston | definitely | 04:27 |
| njohnston | please take a moment to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386773/ when you have a chance - it will boost out neutron-lib adoption percentage | 04:27 |
| njohnston | s/out/our/ | 04:27 |
| SridarK_ | will do | 04:27 |
| njohnston | thanks | 04:28 |
| yushiro | me too, njohnston | 04:28 |
| njohnston | so I hope to have updates to the fwaas assessment as things get merged | 04:28 |
| njohnston | I will make sure that is up to date | 04:28 |
| SridarK_ | njohnston: perfect | 04:28 |
| njohnston | I think that's it on stadium compliance | 04:29 |
| SridarK_ | ok great, lets move on | 04:29 |
| SridarK_ | #topic Bugs | 04:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:29 | |
| SridarK_ | anything critical that needs discussion | 04:30 |
| SridarK_ | ? | 04:30 |
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| njohnston | ZhaoBo had a couple of bugfixes | 04:31 |
| njohnston | https://review.openstack.org/387398 | 04:31 |
| njohnston | and | 04:31 |
| njohnston | https://review.openstack.org/387328 | 04:31 |
| yushiro | I will review them | 04:31 |
| njohnston | please take a look; I tagged the bugs associated with them as newton-backport-potential | 04:31 |
| SridarK_ | i started looking into 387328 | 04:32 |
| SridarK_ | yesterday - had some clarifications as this validation happens on the plugin | 04:33 |
| SridarK_ | but perhaps need some more cover on the update case | 04:33 |
| SridarK_ | let me put some comments on that | 04:33 |
| njohnston | Very good | 04:33 |
| SridarK_ | i started looking yesterday and lost context | 04:34 |
| SridarK_ | those neurons are dying so fast (and i forgot) :-) | 04:34 |
| njohnston | 😜 | 04:34 |
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| SridarK_ | ok lets get to open discussion if nothing else | 04:35 |
| SridarK_ | #topic Open Discussion | 04:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:35 | |
| njohnston | If you are going to the summit and will be there for the friday afternoon session, be sure to sign up here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-contributor-meetup | 04:35 |
| yushiro | signed :) | 04:36 |
| njohnston | Yep, just yushiro and me for now :-) | 04:36 |
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| SridarK_ | i think those of us going are: njohnston, yushiro, mfranc213, hoangcx and SridarK_ from the FWaaS sub team | 04:36 |
| yushiro | hoangcx, and annp will attend. | 04:36 |
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| yushiro | And can we meet before Friday? | 04:37 |
| njohnston | SridarK_: No shwetaap? | 04:37 |
| SridarK_ | and now we are 4 | 04:37 |
| yushiro | wow, real-time update :) | 04:37 |
| njohnston | most popular table! | 04:37 |
| SridarK_ | yes sorry shwetaap will be there - but i have to ask how much time she will spend on FWaaS | 04:37 |
| SridarK_ | :-) | 04:37 |
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| njohnston | and the session we will all be interested in | 04:39 |
| SridarK_ | we can sync on email on when, where & how we can coordinate to meet even before | 04:39 |
| njohnston | "Neutron: Stadium update" Friday 10/28 11:50 - 12:30 | 04:39 |
| njohnston | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-neutron-stadium | 04:39 |
| njohnston | I would enjoy meeting before Friday, perhaps we can find a time to socialize and chat at lunch or dinner | 04:40 |
| SridarK_ | yes absolutely | 04:40 |
| SridarK_ | lets start an email amongst the attendees | 04:40 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:41 |
| SridarK_ | we could carve out some time on each of the days to attack the documentation and other things | 04:41 |
| yushiro | njohnston, SridarK_, Me too. Maybe I can book a meeting room, on Wednesday or Thursday. | 04:41 |
| chandanc | SridarK_, please include us too, although we will be mute | 04:41 |
| SridarK_ | chandanc: oh ok surely | 04:41 |
| SridarK_ | we can do a webex or google hangout | 04:42 |
| njohnston | chandanc: What is the best way to conference you in? Hangouts, webex, or something else? | 04:42 |
| chandanc | thanks :) | 04:42 |
| chandanc | both are ok with me | 04:42 |
| njohnston | ok, good | 04:42 |
| SridarK_ | ok we will keep the emails going across all the team members | 04:42 |
| yushiro | yes. | 04:42 |
| SridarK_ | i really wish everyone could have made it | 04:43 |
| * njohnston is starting to feel the excitement | 04:43 | |
| SridarK_ | +1 | 04:43 |
| njohnston | +1 hopefully we will see each other next time, chandanc and SarathMekala | 04:43 |
| chandanc | i surely hope so | 04:43 |
| yushiro | It'll be perfect :) | 04:43 |
| SarathMekala | :) sure | 04:43 |
| SridarK_ | At the risk of sounding melodramatic, we have really come far from the Fri meeting at Austin | 04:43 |
| njohnston | we sure have! | 04:44 |
| chandanc | yes we have | 04:44 |
| SridarK_ | this has been an awesome team experience - really fantastic to work with all of u | 04:44 |
| njohnston | We have a lot to celebrate. I am proud of everyone here. | 04:44 |
| yushiro | For me, I'll meet you since Mitaka summit. | 04:44 |
| SarathMekala | +1 was a great experience | 04:44 |
| chandanc | +1 | 04:45 |
| SridarK_ | ok we can sync on email then, if nothing else we can close out | 04:45 |
| SridarK_ | Thanks all for attending | 04:45 |
| chandanc | Thanks all | 04:46 |
| njohnston | I have nothing else. Thanks everyone! | 04:46 |
| yushiro | Thanks all. | 04:46 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 04:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 04:46:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-10-19-04.00.html | 04:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-10-19-04.00.txt | 04:46 |
| yushiro | bye bye | 04:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-10-19-04.00.log.html | 04:46 |
| SarathMekala | Thanks all. Bye O/ | 04:46 |
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| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
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| soichi | anil_rao: hi | 05:32 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:32 |
| kaz | hi | 05:32 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:32 |
| anil_rao | Have we started the meeting? | 05:32 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 19 05:32:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:32 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:32 |
| anil_rao | Thanks! :-) | 05:32 |
| soichi | #topic: Open Discussion | 05:32 |
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| soichi | vBrownBag Tech Talk in Barcelona Summit | 05:34 |
| soichi | anil_rao: Thank you for the latest version of slides. It looks fine. | 05:34 |
| anil_rao | soichi: Did the animations work correctly? | 05:34 |
| soichi | yes | 05:35 |
| anil_rao | Thanks for verifying | 05:35 |
| kaz | I think it is easy to understand. | 05:35 |
| anil_rao | Kaz: Thanks. It took quite some time to get that to work, especially since I am not very good with PowerPoint. :-) | 05:36 |
| anil_rao | I see that Vinay (and others) will also be presenting a vBrownBag talk. | 05:37 |
| soichi | yes | 05:37 |
| soichi | Oct. 25th Tuesday 14:15-14:30 "Tapping in NFV cloud : A real world showcase by Swisscom, Ericsson and IXIA" | 05:37 |
| anil_rao | It should be an interesting presentation. | 05:37 |
| soichi | sure | 05:37 |
| anil_rao | I think we should meet with the folks who are invested in the extension driver in Barcelona. | 05:39 |
| soichi | +1 | 05:39 |
| kaz | +1 | 05:40 |
| anil_rao | Would you know if that work (i.e. the framework) is scheduled for the O release. | 05:40 |
| soichi | I don't know. I guess some session in the Design Summit. | 05:41 |
| anil_rao | OK. | 05:42 |
| soichi | For the preparation of presentation, I'd like to propose the final check and a rehearsal at luch time on 26th Wednesday. | 05:44 |
| soichi | I think time keeping is very important for the short time (10 minutes) presentation. | 05:44 |
| anil_rao | +1 | 05:45 |
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| soichi | I'm not sure, but i guess 3 min. for Reedip and 4 min. each for Anil and Kaz, for example. 11min. :-) | 05:46 |
| anil_rao | That sounds good. | 05:47 |
| soichi | thank you | 05:47 |
| soichi | Let's finalize the slides on WebEx meeting, tomorrow. | 05:49 |
| anil_rao | Sure. I'll set up that meeting for the same time as last week. | 05:49 |
| anil_rao | One other thing... | 05:49 |
| soichi | yes | 05:49 |
| anil_rao | kaz,soichi: During the Summit I'd like to chat with you some more about the isolated tunnel case and we should try to get that in soon. | 05:50 |
| soichi | +2 | 05:51 |
| soichi | I hope Yamamoto can join us. | 05:51 |
| anil_rao | It is a very useful feature, especially for folks who have an existing cloud infrastructure and want to enable traffic monitoring on it. | 05:51 |
| anil_rao | Yes. We'll meat as a team and discuss this (and perhaps other items too). | 05:52 |
| anil_rao | meat --> meet | 05:52 |
| soichi | sure | 05:52 |
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| soichi | let's coordinate date. time, and place by email. | 05:53 |
| anil_rao | I also want to talk about monitoring ports on the network nodes, which would be an interesting project in its own right. | 05:53 |
| soichi | +1 | 05:54 |
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| anil_rao | Another topic would be the items that we need to address in preparation for inclusion in the Big Tent / Neutron Stadium. | 05:55 |
| anil_rao | There are several things that need to be handled when errors occur or things fail. | 05:55 |
| soichi | I agree. | 05:56 |
| soichi | inclusiton to the Neutorn Stadium should be a big topic for us | 05:57 |
| anil_rao | Agreed | 05:57 |
| soichi | we really want to make TaaS as one of the default functions (I mean TaaS is installed as one of the default functions of Neutron) | 05:59 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 06:00 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 06:00 |
| soichi | yamamoto_: hi | 06:00 |
| kaz | hi | 06:00 |
| soichi | yamamoto_: i'm looking forward to meeting you in Barcelona | 06:00 |
| anil_rao | +1 | 06:00 |
| anil_rao | I plan to look into the restartability issue with our TaaS Agent. | 06:01 |
| anil_rao | I think this will be crucial for inclusion in the Neutron Stadium. | 06:02 |
| soichi | i see | 06:02 |
| yamamoto_ | anil_rao: i guess it's one of our favorite topics. "make it an l2 agent extension" | 06:03 |
| anil_rao | +1 | 06:04 |
| yamamoto_ | reedip owns the task. but it seems he is not here today? | 06:07 |
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| soichi | yamamoto_: yes | 06:07 |
| yamamoto_ | probably someone should step up and take it over from him. | 06:08 |
| anil_rao | Let's discuss this during the Summit next week. | 06:11 |
| soichi | Reedip will also come to Barcelona, so I think we can disscuss this topic there. | 06:11 |
| soichi | anil_rao: +1 | 06:11 |
| anil_rao | Outside of just the agent itself, we also need some error correction login in the Plugin code that runs in the controller. | 06:11 |
| yamamoto_ | and/or maybe write some code there? | 06:12 |
| anil_rao | login --> logic | 06:12 |
| yamamoto_ | anil_rao: do you have a bug for that? | 06:13 |
| anil_rao | I'll file one | 06:13 |
| yamamoto_ | thank you | 06:13 |
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| yamamoto_ | it reminded me LP ownership issue. | 06:15 |
| yamamoto_ | anil_rao: did you hear anything about it from vinay recently? | 06:16 |
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| anil_rao | yamamoto_: No. However, Vinay will be there too so we can discuss this in person with him. | 06:17 |
| yamamoto_ | is there anything to discuss? i thought it was just "vinay doesn't have spare time to do it" type issue. | 06:17 |
| anil_rao | Didn't know that. | 06:18 |
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| soichi | i guess he just forgot it. | 06:19 |
| anil_rao | Can we discuss some performance related items? | 06:19 |
| yamamoto_ | sure | 06:20 |
| anil_rao | Kaz and Soichi have given us a good start by collecting some very intersting data (for both the shared and isolated underlay cases). | 06:20 |
| anil_rao | I would like to have this work continue. I'll pitch in to this effort with some experiments of my own. | 06:21 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:21 |
| kaz | yes | 06:21 |
| anil_rao | One of the things I want to evaluate is how much monitoring we can do on a given host before it is deemed too much. i.e. before it starts affecting other VMs on the host. | 06:22 |
| soichi | agree | 06:22 |
| anil_rao | We eventually should try to tie this up with the TaaS framework so that this data (perhaps some form of statistics) can be made avialable to the end-user. | 06:23 |
| anil_rao | For example how much mirrored traffic is flowing on a per-host or per-tenant basis. | 06:23 |
| soichi | i agree with you. And also on a per-tap-service, i think. | 06:24 |
| anil_rao | Yes. | 06:24 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess neutron itself is weak in that area. | 06:25 |
| anil_rao | Without this kind of statistics it is very hard to know what is happening on a multi-host, multi-tenant system when a facility like distributed port-mirroring is available. | 06:25 |
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| anil_rao | yamamoto_: Agree | 06:25 |
| soichi | anil_rao: agree | 06:26 |
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| anil_rao | TaaS can make this Neutron weakness worse because one can have several silent consumers of cpu and network bandwidth which are end-user initialted tap-service instances. | 06:27 |
| yamamoto_ | there was "physical topology" effort while ago but i don't know where it went. | 06:27 |
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| yamamoto_ | anil_rao: valid concern | 06:28 |
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| anil_rao | If you all are interest I can discuss some ideas I have on this topic with you next week. | 06:30 |
| soichi | sure | 06:30 |
| kaz | yes | 06:30 |
| anil_rao | I think we are out of time. | 06:30 |
| soichi | yes, now it looks we have run out of time | 06:31 |
| soichi | We will skip next week IRC because of Barcelona Summit. | 06:31 |
| -soichi- See you in Barcelona. | 06:31 | |
| anil_rao | Sure | 06:31 |
| yamamoto_ | with midonet you can visualize taas traffic. (promotion mode :-) | 06:31 |
| soichi | :) | 06:31 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 06:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 06:31:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-10-19-05.32.html | 06:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-10-19-05.32.txt | 06:31 |
| anil_rao | Awesome. | 06:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-10-19-05.32.log.html | 06:31 |
| soichi | bye | 06:31 |
| yamamoto_ | see you in bcn! | 06:31 |
| anil_rao | Bye | 06:31 |
| kaz | bye | 06:31 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 19 13:01:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:01 |
| atuvenie_ | Hi all | 13:01 |
| claudiub | hellooo | 13:02 |
| claudiub | will wait a bit, maybe someone else will join. :) | 13:02 |
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| claudiub | waited enough. :) | 13:05 |
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| claudiub | #topic Barcelona OpenStack Summit | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Barcelona OpenStack Summit (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:06 | |
| claudiub | soo, next week will be the OpenStack Summit | 13:06 |
| claudiub | because of that, we won't have an IRC meeting next week, since most / all of us will be there | 13:06 |
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| claudiub | instead, we do have a work session there | 13:07 |
| claudiub | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/17082/winstackers-work-session | 13:07 |
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| claudiub | soo, the meeting will be there :) | 13:07 |
| claudiub | will have to send an email on the ML about this as well | 13:07 |
| claudiub | as for the agenda.. | 13:07 |
| claudiub | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-winstackers-design-session | 13:07 |
| claudiub | more topics can / will be added | 13:08 |
| claudiub | will also have to send an email about the etherpad | 13:08 |
| claudiub | and we will have a presentation as well, which is worth checking out | 13:09 |
| claudiub | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Windows | 13:09 |
| claudiub | #undo | 13:09 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7fecfaf04ed0> | 13:09 |
| claudiub | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15329/whats-new-for-windows-in-openstack-newton | 13:09 |
| claudiub | #topic networking-hyperv / security groups driver bugs | 13:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "networking-hyperv / security groups driver bugs (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:10 | |
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| claudiub | soo, abalutoiu found 2 bugs, and he also sent bugfixes for them | 13:11 |
| claudiub | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1634082 | 13:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634082 in networking-hyperv "Issue with deleting security rules" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Alin Balutoiu (abalutoiu) | 13:11 |
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| claudiub | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-hyperv/+bug/1633589 | 13:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1633589 in networking-hyperv "Disabling port security does not work" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Alin Balutoiu (abalutoiu) | 13:11 |
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| claudiub | #topic nova Hyper-V PCI passthrough devices | 13:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova Hyper-V PCI passthrough devices (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:12 | |
| claudiub | soo, itoader submitted a blueprint and code for this topic. | 13:13 |
| claudiub | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=hyper-v-pci-passthrough | 13:13 |
| claudiub | #undo | 13:13 |
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| claudiub | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-pci-passthrough | 13:13 |
| claudiub | my proposal is that it should be approved as a specless blueprint, and this will be discussed on the next nova meeting | 13:13 |
| claudiub | speaking of blueprints, itoader, the os-win side of the implementation needs a blueprint as well. :) | 13:14 |
| claudiub | launchpad doesn't track blueprints across projects | 13:14 |
| itoader | I'll take care of that. :) | 13:15 |
| claudiub | yeay \o/ | 13:15 |
| claudiub | #topic miscellaneous | 13:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "miscellaneous (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:16 | |
| claudiub | monasca patches - no update. will try to reach out to the cores at the summit. | 13:16 |
| claudiub | tempest patches - some reviews, but not merged yet | 13:17 |
| claudiub | os-vif release - no updates. | 13:17 |
| claudiub | so, the hyper-v OVS vif driver is still blocked | 13:17 |
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| claudiub | and that's about it for now | 13:18 |
| claudiub | hopefully it'll be a productive summit. :) | 13:19 |
| claudiub | see you in 2 weeks! | 13:19 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 13:19:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-10-19-13.01.html | 13:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-10-19-13.01.txt | 13:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-10-19-13.01.log.html | 13:19 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 19 15:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday October 19, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Summit Prep | 15:00 |
| tomasztrebski | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Reviews | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388183/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375717/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Ask Charter Communications about the size of their deployment | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 4. Lost & Forgotten [ help with testing, Tomasz :( ] | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361318/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315742/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 5.Devstack [Openstack] integration | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387195/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385149/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 6.Local deployment fix | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388017/ | 15:00 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:00 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
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| hosanai | o/ | 15:00 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 15:00 |
| Kamil_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | a bit of a higger agenda this week | 15:00 |
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| tomasztrebski | sorry :( | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | the first topic i woudl like to get to is summit prep | 15:01 |
| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-barcelona-design-summit | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | please see the above link | 15:01 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | are there other items that we should add or expand on | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | i need to update the summit calendar/schedule | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | i woudl like to do that today | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | i'm pretty much already late on this | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | but, maybe unlike last time, only the people involved wwith monasca will show up | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | that could be a good thing | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | because last time in austin, a lot of folks showed up that weren't involved with monasca | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | and that diluted the meeting significantly | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | so, anyway | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | Here is what i have so far | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Monasca New Database discussion | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Cassandra | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/cassandra-tasks | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_cassandra | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Locked alarms | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/locked-alarms | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Logging | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Multi-tenancy support | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Properties/attributes for metrics/logs and sporadic metrics | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/publish-logs-to-topic-selectively | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 5.Monasca Analytics | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Anomaly Detection | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Alarm correlation/clustering | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | Obviousely, on the topic of Cassandra, based on the update from Monday, that disucssion needs to expand | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | because, Cassandra has got some difficult areas that we haven't been able to resolve | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | Item 2 is locked alarms | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | there is a blueprint for that one | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | but i woudl like to discuss that one in more detail and close on the design if possible | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | next item is multi-tenenacy | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | for logging | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | looking for fujitsu to lead that discussion | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | the nest item is properties/attribues for metrics/logs, which is related to support for sporadic alarms | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | i'll let you look at the remainder | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | if there are other topics, now is the change to add them | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | a blueprint would also be nice to accompany the discussion if that makes sense | 15:06 |
| Kamil_ | i think tomasz is in the meeting | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | as far as I understood this is about discussing the design | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:07 |
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| tomasztrebski | I added one topic that I think is one thing that monasca would benefit from | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | last point | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | monasca maintenance | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll let you lead that discussion then | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | cool | 15:07 |
| tomasztrebski | so IMHO I think that what monasca does not have that could be done semi-automatic is muting certain alarm definitions | 15:08 |
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| tomasztrebski | based on defined period of time, whether this should be repeatable operations | 15:08 |
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| rhochmuth | ahhh, is that related to "flood detection/mitigation" | 15:09 |
| tomasztrebski | like for example you got server maintenance over the night/weekend and you know certain alarm definitions will lit because of higher resource usage | 15:09 |
| tomasztrebski | and you want to mute them | 15:09 |
| tomasztrebski | maybe :D | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | so, you want to adjust the thresholds based on patterns | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | the overall idea would be to expand data model to define maintenance_definition and have an engine to modify alarm_definitions a.k.a. change notifications_enabled flag status | 15:10 |
| bklei | agree with the concept tomasztrebski -- that's lacking if you compare monasca alarming vs other tools like icinga/nagios | 15:10 |
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| bklei | we'd support a change like that for sure | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | this ain't rocket science but there would be some work to be done in api / ui / client | 15:10 |
| tomasztrebski | not sure about the threshold | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | i see, it is simpler than that | 15:11 |
| tomasztrebski | and one thing that would need to be added (IMHO) would be extra component to change status because I think threshold is responsible for transitioning basicly | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | we've been interested in this area too | 15:11 |
| tomasztrebski | rhochmuth: what do you mean by simpler ? | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | would it be more like alarm supression then | 15:12 |
| tomasztrebski | btw: that would be all I had in my head about that topic | 15:12 |
| bklei | even just a maintenance flag will go a long way | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | rhochmuth: simpler than adjusting the threshold dynamically | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | so going back to my question, is it related to alarm supression? | 15:12 |
| tomasztrebski | if you mean to suppress transition - no, I would keep it the way it is, just disable any notifications there are | 15:13 |
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| tomasztrebski | but maybe suppressing transition could be an option to discuss - sure | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | ok, sounds like a good area to discuss | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i also put a topic up for alarm flood detection/mitigation | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | it isn't exactly related, but I would like to cover that | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | as prometheus does that | 15:14 |
| tomasztrebski | however I think that without notifications alarm is kind of meaningless, you could also add some sort of extra info to alarm like -> maintenance on or something similar to just hint the user | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, so let's move on with agenda | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | thanks tomasz | 15:15 |
| tomasztrebski | np | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | you are up for leading that session in barcelona | 15:15 |
| tomasztrebski | :scared_cat_face | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | you will be scared | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | that was yoda | 15:16 |
| tomasztrebski | :scared_like_hell_crying_cat_face :P | 15:16 |
| tomasztrebski | heh, yoda rlx | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:16 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388183/ | 15:17 |
| bklei | that's me | 15:17 |
| bklei | i think we're making headway on that one -- very excited to pull it in. huge perf diff for vertica | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | we are excited about it too | 15:17 |
| bklei | sounds like you saw similar 'minutes to seconds' improvement | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | rbrandt abadoned the other review we posted btw | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | or i thought he was going to abandon | 15:18 |
| bklei | oh the projection hint? | 15:18 |
| tomasztrebski | pity we (Fujitsu) cannot be excited - vertica does not like Fujitsu ;-) | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | correct bklei | 15:18 |
| rbrndt | I'm running tests on the review in question right now. Functionally it looks fine, just testing performance on our loaded cluster | 15:18 |
| bklei | you think the refactored query allows the optimizer to choose the right projection? | 15:19 |
| bklei | or it doesn't matter | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | rbrndt? | 15:20 |
| rbrndt | For the query we put the hint on? | 15:20 |
| rbrndt | I think we can wait for the vertica fix, if it's not a prevalent problem | 15:20 |
| bklei | right -- that query would be time qualified | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | we good? | 15:21 |
| bklei | si | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375717/ | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | yeah, so my only issue/concern is the number of dimensinos that are being added and potential performance hit | 15:22 |
| bklei | me also -- i'll roll craig's feedback in today -- just an advertisement for publishing vm names and tenant names -- our infra engineers really want this one | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | those bastards | 15:22 |
| bklei | valid concern. | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | can't they use a uuid | 15:22 |
| bklei | should only change behavior if you add 'tenant_name' to metadata for either libvirt or ovs | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | by now | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | so, have you looked at performance at all | 15:23 |
| bklei | and only perf hit for the keystone tenant list when cache gets updated | 15:23 |
| bklei | tenant list is fast | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | or is it in the minutia | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | i see | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | well, i'll take a close look | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | i can't argue with it being useful | 15:24 |
| bklei | we have something like 500 projects -- it returns fast | 15:24 |
| bklei | one less translation step at 2:00 am :) | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll look it over | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | and get back with you if i have any other concerns | 15:24 |
| bklei | many thanks -- i'll address craig's feedback today | 15:24 |
| bklei | cool | 15:24 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Ask Charter Communications about the size of their deployment | 15:25 |
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| bklei | size meaning? | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | i wanted to ask bklei about size of deployment | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | number of nodes, number tenants | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | if that could be shared | 15:25 |
| bklei | generally yes | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | i'm just updating a slide for next week | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | metrics/sec | 15:25 |
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| bklei | 12K metrics/sec | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | wow, cranking it up since last time | 15:26 |
| bklei | 105 Billion measurements in vertica | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | you'll pass mcdonald's soon | 15:26 |
| bklei | :) according to vertica prof services -- we're small | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | how many compute nodes and vms? | 15:27 |
| bklei | looking | 15:27 |
| bklei | somewhere around 600 to 700 physical nodes, which run the agent | 15:27 |
| bklei | that's two datacenters | 15:28 |
| bklei | looking up vms/projects | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | 600-700 per two datacenters or aggregate | 15:28 |
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| bklei | aggregate | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:29 |
| bklei | about 1000K vms per region/datacenter | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | awesome, thanks | 15:29 |
| bklei | and about 250 customer projects per region/data center | 15:29 |
| bklei | and another 50 per datacenter infra related | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | that is kinda in alignment with what we've been targeting with helion | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | you are a little higher | 15:30 |
| bklei | colorado joke | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | but, we end up collecting a little more metrics per vm | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | our motto, you are a little higher | 15:30 |
| haad1 | hi | 15:30 |
| tomasztrebski | that's the point where foreign key don't get a joke -_- | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | colorado is high in altitude | 15:31 |
| bklei | recreational pot legal in colorado | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | that too | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks bklei. | 15:31 |
| bklei | yup | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | i'll add some details to one of the slides being presented in barcelona | 15:32 |
| bklei | cool | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Lost & Forgotten [ help with testing, Tomasz :( ] | 15:32 |
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| bklei | i'll watch on the youtube | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361318/ | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | should we +2 that one | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | seems like it is ready to go | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | rbrandt: is this one ready? | 15:33 |
| rbrndt | Yeah, I think so | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | tomasz: are you ok with that? | 15:34 |
| tomasztrebski | I was trying to test that, but seems like my monasca knowledge ..ehmm..sucks :D | 15:34 |
| rbrndt | This one is a little deep into the testing/statistics call | 15:34 |
| rbrndt | some weird behavior that needed to be cleaned up | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | if you have questions rbrndt is the expert | 15:34 |
| tomasztrebski | well I brough it up for you (community) to look at, because I could not verify if this actually works or not | 15:34 |
| tomasztrebski | no point for it to hang | 15:35 |
| tomasztrebski | someone with better idea how this should work will do better job testing it I guess while I get more knowledge about it | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | i will test it later today, assuming i can get a devstack build to work again | 15:36 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315742/ | 15:37 |
| tomasztrebski | same story from my side | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | rbrndt: so this one is ready too, i'm assuming | 15:38 |
| rbrndt | Yeah, this one seems complete to me | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | just looking for another last sanity check | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | i'll try and get that done sometime today/tomorrow too | 15:39 |
| rbrndt | tomasztrebski if we have specific queries that didn't work for you, I can try them here | 15:39 |
| tomasztrebski | rbrndt I think that I did not spot the difference using any call using group_by with monascaclient | 15:40 |
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| tomasztrebski | though maybe client lacks something | 15:40 |
| tomasztrebski | not really sure | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | or maybe...again...I don't really understand how this should work | 15:41 |
| rbrndt | Client should be up to date with that review, but I can double check that | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | damn, I don't look very good here in public..telling all that :( | 15:41 |
| tomasztrebski | rbrndt thx | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | rbrndt: so is the python-monascaclient all updated upstream and merged? | 15:42 |
| haad1 | guys does it make sense to put this patch into review process ? | 15:43 |
| haad1 | https://gist.github.com/haad/e31a94a3a36592952f64f6c2e47e3ab0 | 15:43 |
| haad1 | monasca-persister will not start without it in mitaka branch | 15:43 |
| rbrndt | to my knowledge the monascaclient is updated and merged for the group-by changes | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | haad1: if the persister is not starting in mitaka, we would glady accept the review | 15:44 |
| haad1 | ok then I will do it then | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | thanks | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Devstack [Openstack] integration | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387195/ | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | how much faster is it? | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | but, it seems like a small change | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | i would have merged already if my devstack worked | 15:46 |
| tomasztrebski | thx to Artur | 15:46 |
| tomasztrebski | without flag: real54m50.045s user3m48.016s sys0m17.780s | 15:46 |
| tomasztrebski | with flag: real38m50.415s user3m53.688s sys0m18.136s | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | wow, a lot faster | 15:47 |
| tomasztrebski | once using git_clone enters mainstream branch it should speed up more | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | thx artur | 15:47 |
| tomasztrebski | right now it only applies to all those projects that are cloned with git_clone wrapper, so all core openstack services | 15:47 |
| haad1 | https://review.openstack.org/388775 | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | thx haad1 | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | will review and merge asap | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | tomasz: i would merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387195/, but right now my devstack doesnt' come up do to the mysql issue i mentioned in one of the reveiws | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | do you know if that is resolved? | 15:50 |
| tomasztrebski | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388017/ | 15:50 |
| tomasztrebski | answer lies here | 15:50 |
| rhochmuth | i see, so if i test and have success with that review, i can merge it | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | then merge the other two | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | does that seem correct? | 15:51 |
| tomasztrebski | yes, I just hope there are no merge conflicts | 15:51 |
| tomasztrebski | if they are I will try to fix them ASAP | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | :-) | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | me too | 15:51 |
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| tomasztrebski | thx | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | ok, np | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | will do another devstack build and see what happens later today | 15:52 |
| tomasztrebski | btw: I think that in overall status of monasca devstack has other areas to improve to match kind of standard way openstack proposes | 15:52 |
| tomasztrebski | so if anyone has ideas, maybe we can follow up this topic to make monasca deployment there kind of more predictable for guys who now devstack approach and might expect certain things | 15:53 |
| tomasztrebski | just an idea | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | i think it is a great area to cover | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | obviousely we weren't experts when we created that deploy | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | devstack deploy that is | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | and it sounds like there are more improvements to be made | 15:54 |
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| rhochmuth | is that work a separate discussion in the future | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | at a weekly meeting or in barcelona | 15:54 |
| tomasztrebski | but now...tomasz arrived and he's breaking stuff up (yeah I know I am modest :P ) | 15:54 |
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| tomasztrebski | it might be, I have one bigger topic in terms of integration (however it is quite big and not really sure if I could work at this) | 15:55 |
| tomasztrebski | I can add it to the design session if you like | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | sure, we can possibly cover that too | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | if we don't have time in a specific session we can cover while we are there | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Where to put examplary formatting files for notification=> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349097/ | 15:56 |
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| rhochmuth | last one | 15:56 |
| tomasztrebski | ok, just added it to the agend (not really sure if that fits there) but you can check out later | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | yeah, I brought up a question where to put those examples for notifications methods | 15:57 |
| haad1 | I have one question | 15:57 |
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| haad1 | can anyone tag new version on stable/newton and merge https://github.com/openstack/monasca-api/commit/e92a9524823863290065e781ad64b39086590647 there ? | 15:57 |
| haad1 | right now stable/newton is not running at all | 15:57 |
| tomasztrebski | there are changes open with cherry pick on stable/newton | 15:58 |
| tomasztrebski | might be the reason | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | haad1: i can do that | 15:58 |
| haad1 | rhochmuth: thanks | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll need to look at it closer though after meeting | 15:59 |
| rhochmuth | oops i need to end the meeting | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | just saw the clock | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| pratid | bye | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | thx | 16:00 |
| Kamil_ | bye | 16:00 |
| tomasztrebski | cheers and bye | 16:00 |
| shinya_kwbt | bye | 16:00 |
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| bklei | cya | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 16:00:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-10-19-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-10-19-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-10-19-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 19 16:01:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:01 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
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| eglute | Hello Everyone! Please review agenda: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreLunar.21 | 16:01 |
| eglute | and update as needed | 16:01 |
| shamail | Hi all | 16:01 |
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| eglute | Mark is unable to join today | 16:02 |
| eglute | is hogepodge around? | 16:02 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:02 |
| gema | o/ | 16:02 |
| shamail | o/ | 16:02 |
| eglute | #topic guideline | 16:02 |
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| eglute | shamail, do you have an update on cinder? | 16:03 |
| shamail | Yes, I plan to submit a patch later tonight. I spoke with the PTL and we agreed that cinder-list-API-versions is probably worth scoring for this update. | 16:04 |
| eglute | great, any other cinder changes that you see coming? | 16:04 |
| shamail | The addition of V3 API does not require any updates yet since the tests are based on V2 and that API version will be around for a while (plus V3 is backwards compatible) | 16:05 |
| eglute | ok... so that means we are not adding v3 then | 16:05 |
| eglute | at least not yet | 16:05 |
| shamail | Nothing else for this release since most of the other cinder capabilities require specific feature requirements or admin. | 16:05 |
| eglute | thank you shamail! | 16:05 |
| shamail | Yes, that is my recommendation for this update based on the conversation. | 16:05 |
| shamail | You're welcome! Sorry for being slow w/ the patch | 16:06 |
| eglute | anyone have questions about cinder? | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:06 |
| eglute | glance is next on the list, Mark had signed up for that one, and i dont see a patch for it | 16:06 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge | 16:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge | 16:07 |
| eglute | unless someone else has an update on glance? | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | We shouldn't disallow they parts of v3 that are compatible with v2 | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | Sorry for being late | 16:07 |
| eglute | hogepodge you mean for cinder? | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | Yeah | 16:07 |
| eglute | i dont think we are dissallowing, we are just not adding it yet. based on what shamail says it is not ready for scoring | 16:08 |
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| shamail | hogepodge: can you help me understand what that would mean? We weren't planning on disallowing any parts. The tests are still primarily V2 and the API is not going away soon so we weren't going to update to V3 for this guideline. | 16:08 |
| hogepodge | But if a cloud is running v3 and passed testing I don't want to deny then there trademark because v2 is designated | 16:09 |
| shamail | +1 | 16:09 |
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| eglute | hogepodge how would you propose we handle that in the guideline? | 16:10 |
| shamail | I have to double check the tests but do they support V3? | 16:10 |
| eglute | add v3 with v2 tests? | 16:10 |
| shamail | The feedback I got was V2 for now mainly | 16:10 |
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| hogepodge | If it's backwards compatible they should | 16:11 |
| hogepodge | It's just the micro version problem again | 16:11 |
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| pilgrimstack | HI from OVH | 16:12 |
| eglute | should we discuss microversions during the summit? if it is not on the agenda yet? | 16:12 |
| eglute | hello Rockyg and pilgrimstack! | 16:12 |
| shamail | hogepodge: How should I handle the update based on your recommendation? | 16:13 |
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| hogepodge | I don't k ow | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | Know | 16:14 |
| catherineD | We can check again but I have not notice any volume tests with V3 ... so far only V1 and V2 | 16:14 |
| eglute | I added microversions to the summit agenda. | 16:14 |
| shamail | catherineD: that's correct | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | Update the designated section to say v3 compatible API is OK? | 16:15 |
| shamail | I'll update as I proposed for now | 16:15 |
| eglute | hogepodge i think that would work | 16:15 |
| shamail | If we need to change after summit working session then we can make updates | 16:15 |
| hogepodge | And if tests fail on v3 fix them to work on either | 16:15 |
| eglute | shamail i think that will work | 16:15 |
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| eglute | hogepodge if someone comes to you and they run v3, we can def. expedite thigns | 16:16 |
| eglute | whether it is flagging or adding new tests | 16:16 |
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| eglute | ok, anything else on cinder? | 16:18 |
| eglute | since Mark is not here, does anyone else have update on glance? | 16:18 |
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| eglute | if not, Heat is next on the list | 16:19 |
| eglute | catherineD, go ahead | 16:19 |
| catherineD | right now in tempest config the default for cinnder v3 is false ... the defaults for v1 and v2 are true ... so for someone to purposely running v3 they need to turn this on | 16:19 |
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| catherineD | eglute: thx .... so we have a heat work session scheduled on Friday Oct 28 | 16:19 |
| eglute | catherineD good to know | 16:19 |
| eglute | great, thank you | 16:19 |
| eglute | everyone, if you can, please attend the session | 16:20 |
| catherineD | the time an place a re in the etherpad ... please add that to your calendar ... we should be at the session | 16:20 |
| catherineD | eglute: that is all for Heat | 16:20 |
| eglute | thank you catherineD! I will send out calendar invite to that | 16:21 |
| eglute | Keystone is next | 16:21 |
| eglute | hogepodge do you have an update? | 16:21 |
| hogepodge | No | 16:22 |
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| hogepodge | Mark had taken it over | 16:22 |
| eglute | cool, was hoping you might have heard something :) | 16:23 |
| eglute | no patch on keystone yet, I am sure mark will provide update later | 16:23 |
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| eglute | If there are no further comments on Keystone, Nova is next | 16:23 |
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| eglute | shamail, updates on nova? | 16:23 |
| shamail | Hi eglute | 16:24 |
| shamail | I submitted a patch | 16:24 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385781/ | 16:24 |
| eglute | thank you! | 16:24 |
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| shamail | Mainly recommending suspend/resume and listing flavors | 16:24 |
| eglute | i see there are 3 new capabilities | 16:25 |
| eglute | I thought we already had flavors at some point | 16:25 |
| shamail | list-api-versions was scored again… the results didnt change much (for adoption) but score went up slightly due to being sticky | 16:25 |
| shamail | I checked the existing guideline and couldn’t see it. Did it removed at some point? | 16:26 |
| eglute | let me see | 16:26 |
| Rockyg | that one might be a good one no matter the score. Discovery is really important | 16:26 |
| eglute | it was there in 2015.05 https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/2015.05.json#L125 | 16:27 |
| eglute | but it is not in the next one | 16:28 |
| eglute | odd | 16:28 |
| shamail | So list-flavors is the only non-admin operation re: flavors | 16:28 |
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| Rockyg | we need some way to let devs know about apis we think need tests or improvements to tests so they can be included, also | 16:28 |
| shamail | was it removed because of admin for others? | 16:28 |
| eglute | i cannot find it. it should be listed as removed in the next one, but it is not | 16:29 |
| Rockyg | shouldn't be, but since it's removed, we should have more history on it | 16:29 |
| eglute | what Rockyg said. I will dig after the meeting | 16:29 |
| eglute | unless someone remembers | 16:30 |
| shamail | Thanks | 16:30 |
| shamail | I think its an important one to include unless we can recall the reason why it was removed | 16:30 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:31 |
| eglute | shamail i agree. i am sure we can find the history, unless it was accidental omission | 16:31 |
| eglute | anything else on nova? | 16:31 |
| shamail | thanks | 16:31 |
| shamail | Nope :) | 16:31 |
| eglute | thank you shamail! | 16:32 |
| eglute | Neutron is next! | 16:32 |
| eglute | Please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381393/ | 16:32 |
| eglute | mark added networks-list-api-versions and networks-subnet-pools-CRUD | 16:33 |
| eglute | as well as neutron-lib to designated sections. | 16:33 |
| eglute | if no comments on it today, i would like to merge it | 16:33 |
| eglute | and i mean comments on the patch :) | 16:35 |
| hogepodge | eglute: can you wait on it for just a day or so? | 16:35 |
| eglute | yes of course | 16:35 |
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| hogepodge | I had someone ping me about neutron las week but I couldn't adrress their concerns. I just don't want to miss something. I'll catch up with them today | 16:35 |
| eglute | hogepodge sure thing. i am just trying to move things along if there are no concerns, but if they are there, I will wait | 16:36 |
| eglute | if no other feedback on neutron, we can move on to swift | 16:37 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384660/ | 16:37 |
| eglute | huge patch there. | 16:37 |
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| eglute | notmyname provided some great feedback | 16:37 |
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| eglute | including re-organizing things, adding tests, and renaming capabilities | 16:37 |
| eglute | i have a question on renaming capabilities | 16:37 |
| eglute | right now i renamed them in the patch, but we have no way of tracking renames | 16:38 |
| eglute | besides the tests staying the same | 16:38 |
| eglute | or am i missing somehting | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | I think you're right | 16:38 |
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| eglute | so should i hold off on renames? | 16:39 |
| eglute | hogepodge what do you think | 16:39 |
| Rockyg | so at a mimimum, we might want specific patches that are just the renames | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I need to take a close look at the patch | 16:39 |
| eglute | ok | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I'd hold off for a bit, maybe until we can talk in person next week. | 16:40 |
| Rockyg | that way, you can search for old name in reviews to find the new name | 16:40 |
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| eglute | i would appreciate everyone taking a look | 16:40 |
| eglute | and i can wait until next week | 16:40 |
| eglute | i scored several new capabilities for swift | 16:40 |
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| eglute | i would appreciate people looking at the scores as well | 16:40 |
| eglute | additionally, lots of test changes for existing capabilities. Swift PTL provided those. We do not have a process for adding new tests, but i think it should be ok to add them, correct? | 16:42 |
| notmyname | I just added myself as a reviewer on that patch. is there something you'd like me to specifically look at? | 16:42 |
| eglute | notmyname please take a look at the scoring and for those that didnt score high enough to make the cut, you may want to argue that should be scored higher | 16:43 |
| catherineD | eglute: we need to add adding new test process to DefCore ... I don't think it is very clear at the moment | 16:43 |
| notmyname | heh. that would assume I've ever been able to understand the scoring ;-) | 16:43 |
| eglute | notmyname I would be happy to work with you on that. it is extremely subjective :) | 16:44 |
| notmyname | eglute: ok, thanks | 16:44 |
| eglute | catherineD i agree... | 16:44 |
| Rockyg | notmyname, convert it to a table and it's much easier | 16:44 |
| notmyname | Rockyg: no, the problem is understanding "[1,1,1] [1,1,1] [1,1,0] [1,1,1] [1] [91]*" etc. I'll work with eglute on it | 16:44 |
| eglute | notmyname: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/working_materials/scoring.txt#L12 | 16:45 |
| eglute | see if that helps | 16:45 |
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| catherineD | I remember at the earlier days we discussed that the tests have to be in Tempest for 2 cycles for the test stability ... not sure whether that is still the criteria | 16:45 |
| eglute | notmyname and here are the core criteria: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/doc/source/process/CoreCriteria.rst | 16:45 |
| Rockyg | right. those used to all be part of a table (really a spreadsheet) and the columns with headings made *much* more sense | 16:46 |
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| eglute | catherineD i think you are right, but that would be hard to track for renames | 16:46 |
| catherineD | we can use the id to track rename tests ... if it is a new id it is a new test | 16:47 |
| catherineD | currently, we use test id to determine whether they are aliases | 16:48 |
| eglute | catherineD true | 16:48 |
| eglute | catherineD would you help me define a process for adding new tests? i think we all agree that we need more tests for capabilities | 16:48 |
| catherineD | eglute: sure we can work together on that .. | 16:49 |
| Rockyg | let's work on that at the summit..can we add to etherpad? | 16:49 |
| eglute | Rockyg yes, I will add it | 16:49 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: +1 | 16:49 |
| eglute | catherineD thank you, I appreciate it! | 16:49 |
| catherineD | more on the policy side | 16:49 |
| gema | there is a test that needs an empty tenant to run | 16:50 |
| notmyname | I think I checked that the tests were in liberty, but it would be good to have confirmation. thanks | 16:50 |
| eglute | gema you mean for swift? | 16:51 |
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| gema | oh, no, sorry | 16:51 |
| gema | I thought we were takling in general about tests | 16:51 |
| gema | I will wait till the ned | 16:51 |
| gema | end | 16:51 |
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| gema | (it is for compute) | 16:51 |
| eglute | gema thanks for bringing it up | 16:52 |
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| catherineD | gema: I was talking about test in general (policy ) :-) | 16:52 |
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| gema | catherineD: ack | 16:52 |
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| gema | eglute: tempest.api.compute.servers.test_list_servers_negative.ListServersNegativeTestJSON.test_list_servers_by_limits_greater_than_actual_count <- this tests | 16:52 |
| gema | test | 16:52 |
| eglute | so seems like that test should be removed? | 16:53 |
| gema | it makes assumptions about how many servers the tenant has | 16:53 |
| gema | I think so | 16:53 |
| eglute | gema would you submit a patch? | 16:53 |
| gema | eglute: will do | 16:53 |
| eglute | thank you gema | 16:53 |
| eglute | anything else on swift? | 16:53 |
| eglute | I would appreciate everyone looking at it | 16:53 |
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| eglute | next, renames | 16:54 |
| eglute | #topic Renames | 16:54 |
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| catherineD | eglute: will do | 16:54 |
| eglute | shamail hogepodge any updates? | 16:54 |
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| hogepodge | Not here. I think shamail had sent some patches up | 16:55 |
| shamail | Yes | 16:55 |
| shamail | I have created a new room #openstack-interop | 16:55 |
| eglute | shamail do you have links? | 16:55 |
| shamail | I will need to work with one of the founders of our current channel to finish the rename process | 16:56 |
| shamail | eglute: both patches merged | 16:56 |
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| eglute | ah ok | 16:56 |
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| shamail | #openstack-defcore no longer has bots, they have moved to #openstack-interop | 16:56 |
| eglute | i think i created this channel | 16:56 |
| shamail | Awesome | 16:56 |
| shamail | I will work with you on the final item | 16:57 |
| eglute | err, not this one, but the openstack-defcore | 16:57 |
| shamail | I wanted to update the meeting entry in eavesdrop too | 16:57 |
| eglute | thanks shamail | 16:57 |
| shamail | but I realized that it points to our wiki page for the agenda | 16:57 |
| eglute | right, we need to coordinate things | 16:57 |
| hogepodge | everyone should join that channel now, since we're talking about it | 16:57 |
| eglute | i am guessing after the summit | 16:57 |
| shamail | No one has signed up to update the wiki | 16:57 |
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| shamail | yes eglute, that is probably the time frame for updating our wiki at this point | 16:58 |
| eglute | i can update the wiki, | 16:58 |
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| shamail | I should be able to help with wiki move afterwards | 16:58 |
| catherineD | so we should join #ropenstack-interop not #openstack-defcore ? | 16:58 |
| shamail | yes | 16:58 |
| eglute | wait wait | 16:58 |
| eglute | lets not make the official switch yet | 16:58 |
| shamail | eventually (with the steps I need help with), if someone enters openstack-defcore, they will be redirected automatically | 16:58 |
| eglute | lets switch during/after summit | 16:58 |
| hogepodge | ah, oh, don't join it. sry | 16:58 |
| shamail | (http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html) | 16:59 |
| eglute | thanks shamail | 16:59 |
| catherineD | I think we should do some announcement with date before we switch | 16:59 |
| eglute | i think we want to switch all the things at once | 16:59 |
| eglute | catherineD agreed | 16:59 |
| shamail | Last step is “Renaming an IRC channel”, I will need to grant you op on the new channel eglute | 16:59 |
| eglute | thanks shamail | 16:59 |
| eglute | we are out of time... | 16:59 |
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| eglute | please add things to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreBarcelona | 17:00 |
| eglute | and please review Refstack patch | 17:00 |
| eglute | Please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382653/ we have users currently failed for this removed test. | 17:00 |
| catherineD | that is a DefCore patch ... | 17:00 |
| eglute | ah ok, it was listed after refstack and i didnt click it | 17:01 |
| eglute | everyone review that patch :) | 17:01 |
| catherineD | we need help to have it merged to skip a tempest removed test ... RefStack user are failing for that reason now | 17:01 |
| catherineD | eglute: my mistake :-) | 17:01 |
| eglute | and we are out of time... over in the #openstack-defcore channel to continue, i will be tehre | 17:01 |
| eglute | thanks everyone! | 17:01 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 17:01:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-10-19-16.01.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-10-19-16.01.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-10-19-16.01.log.html | 17:01 |
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