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| njohnston | #startmeeting fwaas | 04:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 04:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is njohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 04:00 |
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| njohnston | #chair SridarK xgerman yushiro | 04:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: yushiro | 04:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman yushiro | 04:00 |
| SridarK | Hi All | 04:00 |
| SarathMekala | Hello all O/ | 04:00 |
| SridarK | shall we get started | 04:00 |
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| njohnston | by all means | 04:00 |
| SridarK | #topic Summit briefing | 04:01 |
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| yushiro | hi | 04:01 |
| chandanc_ | Hello | 04:01 |
| SridarK | Was a good summit and nice to meet all the folks who made it in - we had productive discussions. Really missed the folks who could not be there | 04:01 |
| njohnston | I was very pleased to meet everyone who was able to attend the summit! I very much hope to meet everyone who could not attend at the PTG in Atlanta. | 04:02 |
| SridarK | +1 | 04:02 |
| yushiro | +1 | 04:02 |
| yushiro | really good summit :) | 04:02 |
| njohnston | There was a summit session on the neutron stadium situation, but it turns out that was really just to make sure that everyone understood the requirements - no new news. | 04:02 |
| SridarK | perhaps we can see where we can get max attendance PTG or Boston and can make some plans accordingly too | 04:03 |
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| SridarK | njohnston: +1 it was indeed very reasonable on the requirements and we have a good chance of making it | 04:03 |
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| njohnston | Was there anything else earthshaking from the summit? I can't think of anything. | 04:04 |
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| njohnston | The talk mfranc213 and I and davidsha gave seemed to be very well recieved. If you want to learn how neutron agent extensions work and how to write one I recommend the video. | 04:05 |
| SridarK | we had a good discussion amongst the team - njohnston, mfranc213, vichoward, hoangcx and myself - thanks to yushiro | 04:05 |
| yushiro | You're welcome. | 04:06 |
| njohnston | +1 thanks again to Yushiro and Fujitsu for generously making your meeting room available for us! | 04:06 |
| SridarK | we also had other folks from fujitsu - many thanks to yushiro for hosting us | 04:06 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 on the L3 agent ext talk - was really fantastic and is indeed a very valuable contribution to neutron for services | 04:06 |
| chandanc_ | njohnston, do you have the video link ? | 04:07 |
| njohnston | chandanc_: http://www.openstack.org/videos/video/under-the-trenchcoat-neutron-agent-extensions | 04:07 |
| chandanc_ | thanks :) | 04:07 |
| njohnston | you're welcome :) | 04:07 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: & SarathMekala: Had a discussion with Kevin Benton and described the patch and intent and he was fine with that | 04:08 |
| SridarK | and said he would start looking into it and get back to u | 04:08 |
| chandanc_ | Great news SridarK | 04:08 |
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| SarathMekala | great :) | 04:08 |
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| SridarK | i communicated ur intent that u wanted to make sure general direction is good and wanted opinions | 04:09 |
| chandanc_ | cool, now we can fixup all the UTs and move forward | 04:09 |
| SridarK | and ignore Jenkins failure | 04:09 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: yes do wait for his inputs | 04:09 |
| chandanc_ | ok sure | 04:09 |
| SridarK | but u can keep churning the patch | 04:09 |
| chandanc_ | yes | 04:09 |
| njohnston | +1 churn! | 04:09 |
| njohnston | We also met with korzen at the developer meetup; he is looking for opportunities to contribute as well. He appears to have a deep knowledge base. | 04:10 |
| SridarK | njohnston: +1 really looking fwd to have more involvement from korzen | 04:11 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: & SarathMekala: i met some folks from contrail who were interested in FWaaS and i mentioned ur contributions - i will connect u guys | 04:11 |
| chandanc_ | Sure SridarK | 04:12 |
| SarathMekala | sure | 04:12 |
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| SridarK | Also as i was leaving, got to know that there is interest from the ODL community as well - they want some support for precommit notifications - Isaku will propose some changes and discuss with us | 04:13 |
| chandanc_ | that is interesting | 04:14 |
| njohnston | yes, quite | 04:14 |
| SridarK | Thats pretty much what i had | 04:14 |
| SridarK | overall it was good and productive | 04:14 |
| SridarK | Also as i was leaving yushiro introduced me to Takashi Yamamoto who said will help with tempest reviews | 04:15 |
| SridarK | he suggested to follow the neutron model as opposed to what he had done for FWaaS which could be a bit dated | 04:15 |
| SridarK | I am trying to connect with someone internally who may also have some background on tempest - i will update on what i find out | 04:16 |
| SridarK | ok i think now i am done :-) | 04:16 |
| SridarK | njohnston: , yushiro: other things to add ? | 04:17 |
| njohnston | yes, but not about the summit :-) | 04:17 |
| yushiro | well,, it's all for me :) | 04:17 |
| yushiro | thanks, SridarK | 04:17 |
| SridarK | ok lets move on then | 04:17 |
| SridarK | #topic stadium requirements | 04:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stadium requirements (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:18 | |
| SridarK | njohnston: pls go ahead | 04:18 |
| njohnston | On the topic of stadium requirements, I have started some developer documentation. Please kindly take a look at this link and suggest what you think needs to be added: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/77/391477/1/check/gate-neutron-fwaas-docs-ubuntu-xenial/205c721//doc/build/html/ | 04:19 |
| njohnston | The main thing that I would like to ad at some point is a document explaining how to write a fwaas driver, for in-tree or out-of-tree drivers. | 04:19 |
| njohnston | but I don't want to hold things up for that | 04:19 |
| njohnston | mfranc213's api-ref change seems to be well received https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391338/ | 04:20 |
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| njohnston | The neutron-lib contribution front seems to be going well; I hope to slip at least one contribution in, probably this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389825/ | 04:21 |
| SridarK | njohnston: i can contribute on the writing of fwaas driver (esp out of tree - as i have done that before) | 04:21 |
| njohnston | Excellent! But don't let me distract you from tempest! | 04:22 |
| SarathMekala | I too have done work on out of tree driver | 04:22 |
| SridarK | njohnston: no only after tempest | 04:22 |
| njohnston | SridarK has the two tempest patches in WIP still, but I am optimistic we can close on them soon, especially with the resources you are bringing to bear | 04:23 |
| njohnston | the grenade job is merged, and is 100% successful when checking experimentally, so I am going to put out a change to move it to gate queue non-voting | 04:24 |
| njohnston | chandanc_ and I are getting together to look at the multinode job and clear the comments on that | 04:24 |
| njohnston | yushiro: How goes the OSC patch and it's dependency, the OSC lib utils? | 04:24 |
| chandanc_ | yes, we can have a discussion on the CI patch maybe after this meeting and close on the comments | 04:25 |
| yushiro | njohnston: I'll try to import to osc-lib. But currently, Akihiro hasn't updated yet. | 04:25 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes, i have one (API) and SarathMekala: has the scenario | 04:25 |
| yushiro | I just rebased yesterday and try to move it into osc-lib today after discussing with Akihiro. | 04:26 |
| SarathMekala | SridarK, njohnston I am working on the scenario tests.. will do a checkin soon | 04:26 |
| njohnston | excellent, everyone, excellent | 04:26 |
| njohnston | I believe that if the deadline for stadium compliance fell right now, we would pass. We don't have all the elements, but for all the required ones we can show strong and steady progress. | 04:27 |
| njohnston | Which is the criteria we need to meet. | 04:27 |
| njohnston | Anything else on the stadium? | 04:28 |
| njohnston | ok, moving along. | 04:29 |
| njohnston | #topic FWaaS v2 | 04:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FWaaS v2 (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 04:29 | |
| njohnston | I expect this to be a very short topic because of the summit | 04:29 |
| SridarK | +1 | 04:29 |
| yushiro | +1 | 04:29 |
| njohnston | We already mentioned the work on OSC, as well as the discussions with kevinbenton | 04:29 |
| njohnston | But I wanted to check and see if anyone had any progress on anything else. | 04:29 |
| SridarK | And we agreed on the L2 model being default fwg for tenant wide | 04:30 |
| njohnston | Ah yes, thank you | 04:30 |
| SridarK | once that is set, any VM coming up will get that | 04:30 |
| yushiro | great | 04:30 |
| SridarK | but then this is not for stadium requirements just to be clear | 04:31 |
| SarathMekala | Super +1 | 04:31 |
| SridarK | so we can focus on it once we are solid on the stadium req | 04:31 |
| njohnston | +1 | 04:31 |
| njohnston | I think that is it. Moving on then... | 04:32 |
| njohnston | #topic meeting time | 04:32 |
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| njohnston | I sent an email to openstack-dev about this but I don't think I got any responses | 04:32 |
| njohnston | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/106410.html | 04:32 |
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| njohnston | but with everyone shifting off DST (if it applies to you) it seemed to be a good time to revisit the timing of the meeting | 04:33 |
| SridarK | njohnston: and i discussed this and i think we defn need to change it | 04:33 |
| yushiro | njohnston: Sorry, today I absent for office. I just watched it. now watching.. | 04:33 |
| SridarK | will help njohnston and mfranc213 to more sane times | 04:34 |
| njohnston | What does everyone think? What sounds good? Please don't consider the options I presented as set in stone; suggest one if you think it would be better. :-) | 04:34 |
| chandanc_ | Option 1 looks good for us | 04:35 |
| SridarK | I am okay with both, but i think Option 1 is good because it is also more Europe friendly | 04:35 |
| SarathMekala | Option 1 looks good but it seems to impact SridarK more | 04:35 |
| chandanc_ | what do others feel ? | 04:35 |
| yushiro | njohnston: quick reply. Both proposals are comfortable for me :) It's more better to 1st proposal. | 04:35 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: no i am an early riser - so i am ok | 04:36 |
| njohnston | Yes, I didn't list Europe but I believe korzen is there... not sure where exactly... | 04:36 |
| SridarK | njohnston: now this would be Thu ? | 04:36 |
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| njohnston | Yes, I was thinking Thursday, if that is amenable to everyone | 04:36 |
| chandanc_ | ok with us | 04:37 |
| SarathMekala | Yes should be good | 04:37 |
| yushiro | Thursday is OK for me | 04:37 |
| SridarK | Yes works for me | 04:37 |
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| njohnston | it sounds like we have a consensus for option #1. Does anyone object? | 04:37 |
| SridarK | I did not respond on the mailer as it is more important to have consensus here | 04:38 |
| SridarK | we can respond now | 04:38 |
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| njohnston | Hearing no objections, the motion passes. I'll respond to the ML post and generate a change to update the irc-meetings repo - unless anyone else wants to try their hand at it, it's really very easy. | 04:39 |
| SridarK | Or can we just move fwd | 04:39 |
| njohnston | I think it's best to move forward, if anyone objects on the ML we can check it out | 04:40 |
| SridarK | ok sounds good | 04:40 |
| njohnston | That's all I have | 04:40 |
| njohnston | #topic Open Discussion | 04:40 |
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| njohnston | Anything else anyone would like to discuss? | 04:41 |
| yushiro | hi, I have one question about firewall-rule | 04:41 |
| SridarK | I wanted to clarify some things on capacity | 04:41 |
| SridarK | but yushiro: pls go ahead | 04:41 |
| yushiro | we don't support 'source_firewall_group_id' and 'destination_firewall_group_id' ? | 04:41 |
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| yushiro | currently, these values aren't included in resource attribute map. | 04:42 |
| SridarK | yushiro: yes, i think we can look for use cases that really demand it and that can come after L2 in priority | 04:42 |
| SridarK | yushiro: yes i asked to remove them | 04:42 |
| SridarK | as we did not have support on the plugin/db layer | 04:42 |
| yushiro | SridarK: OK, I understood. CLI patch still include these values, so I'll remove them. | 04:43 |
| SridarK | we can certainly attack them but we can come up with some usecases on that | 04:43 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: yes i think u should remove them, we can add them when we have support on the server | 04:43 |
| SridarK | chandanc_: i think u had some use cases | 04:43 |
| yushiro | SridarK, Sure. It's all for me. | 04:43 |
| yushiro | Thanks | 04:43 |
| SridarK | we can discuss that after L2 | 04:44 |
| SridarK | or after the O-1 | 04:44 |
| SridarK | ok let me ask my question | 04:44 |
| SarathMekala | I had some questions on this earlier | 04:44 |
| SarathMekala | check out this link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w8JjOp_iu6Lwr59saDDyMHLbmY_r4g-gvsvE-R1xD_k/edit | 04:44 |
| SridarK | SarathMekala: ok yes actually we discussed it | 04:45 |
| SridarK | good lets hold that and we can come back to it | 04:45 |
| chandanc_ | sorry SridarK, i will have to go back an recollect the use-case, may be i can send in a mail | 04:45 |
| njohnston | Just to note, I added the bit about source and dest fwg ID to the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-meeting etherpad fwaas v2 punchlist in a section titled 'deferred work' so we can track it and not forget about it | 04:45 |
| SridarK | ok great | 04:45 |
| njohnston | SridarK: ask away | 04:45 |
| SridarK | I wanted to get a sense of how much capacity all of us can contribute to the FWaaS activities | 04:46 |
| yushiro | Thanks njohnston. | 04:46 |
| SridarK | we dont have to answer the question now | 04:46 |
| SridarK | pls just think abt this and also discuss with ur management etc as all of us are probab juggling other responsibilities also | 04:46 |
| njohnston | I should hopefully have more clarity on that in a month. | 04:46 |
| SridarK | so we can get a sense in terms of planning | 04:46 |
| SridarK | njohnston: yes totally fine - and this can also change from time to time | 04:47 |
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| SridarK | I guess also for the P cycle it will be good to know what features we can tackle | 04:48 |
| njohnston | indeed | 04:48 |
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| SridarK | there have been many ambitious proposals but we will need to make sure we have enough contributors | 04:48 |
| yushiro | SridarK, I hope so. | 04:48 |
| SridarK | just a long term planning thing for some thoughts from all of us and our management | 04:49 |
| SridarK | no rush here - just wanted to get it out | 04:49 |
| SridarK | and i am done | 04:49 |
| njohnston | yes, let's revisit this in a couple of weeks, perhaps we can all aim for some data by the first week in December | 04:49 |
| SridarK | totally | 04:49 |
| njohnston | just as a checkpoint, no stress for anyone | 04:49 |
| SridarK | if nothing else from anyone we can close | 04:50 |
| SridarK | yes exactly | 04:50 |
| njohnston | Also, if you have any problems with getting patches in for project-config let me know - I am now one of the neutron infra liaisons https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392294/1/doc/source/policies/neutron-teams.rst@76 | 04:50 |
| chandanc_ | great :) | 04:50 |
| yushiro | njohnston, wow! great!! | 04:50 |
| SridarK | oh cool | 04:50 |
| SridarK | njohnston: u can give us a tutorial on how all of this magic works some day :-) | 04:51 |
| chandanc_ | +1 ^^ | 04:51 |
| SarathMekala | great +1 | 04:51 |
| njohnston | I will! :-D | 04:51 |
| SridarK | thx | 04:51 |
| njohnston | Thanks everyone, and have a great day! | 04:51 |
| SridarK | thx all for joining | 04:52 |
| yushiro | Thanks all. | 04:52 |
| SridarK | lets push for a productive week | 04:52 |
| chandanc_ | njohnston, lets discuss about th CI patch | 04:52 |
| njohnston | chandanc_: Yes, lets flip back to #openstack-fwaas | 04:52 |
| njohnston | #endmeeting | 04:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 04:52:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-11-02-04.00.html | 04:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-11-02-04.00.txt | 04:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2016/fwaas.2016-11-02-04.00.log.html | 04:53 |
| SarathMekala | Thanks all.. bye O/ | 04:53 |
| yushiro | bye bye | 04:53 |
| chandanc_ | bye | 04:53 |
| SridarK | bye | 04:53 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 15:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday November 2, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1. Reviews: | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375717/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351930/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Update on the state of group_by? | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | anyone here? | 15:01 |
| bklei | light crowd today | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | anyone here besides bklei? | 15:01 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | hi | 15:02 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | well, we might as well get started | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | i still have jet lag | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | #topic https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375717/ | 15:03 |
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| bklei | that's me | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | so, it looks like this is ready to be merged based on the comments and +1's | 15:03 |
| bklei | this is add'l metadata to publish vm and tenant names to infra project | 15:03 |
| bklei | i think so too | 15:03 |
| bklei | u ok to merge then? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | you may have the honors | 15:04 |
| bklei | bueno! | 15:04 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351930/ | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351930/ (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:04 | |
| rhochmuth | it is in merge conflict | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | other than that i thought it was ready to go | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | did you test it at all | 15:05 |
| bklei | that's mr. brandt's -- group by | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | yup | 15:05 |
| bklei | we haven't pulled it in to test -- the code looks good. | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | i was about to merge the other day, but another merge put it in conflict state again | 15:06 |
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| bklei | is ryan around to rebase? | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | rbrabdt: u there? | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | rbrandt: u there? | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | i think my team is having a planning meeting without me | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | as usual | 15:07 |
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| bklei | :) | 15:07 |
| hosanai | hahaha | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | he's not on-line | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | i think they do it on purpose | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | i hipchatted him and let him know | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | so, hopefully later today we can merge that one | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | ok, maybe later today | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | is that the entire agenda? | 15:09 |
| bklei | sweet -- that's all charter had | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | how are you making out with grafana 3? | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | and keystone integration? | 15:10 |
| rbak | It's going to be grafana 4 soon | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | oh yeah | 15:10 |
| rbak | But the keystone integration has been silent. No word from rain tank lately. | 15:10 |
| rbak | I'll try to get their attention again. | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | ok, thx | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | i was hoping for a break-through | 15:11 |
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| rhochmuth | we've also been given the silent tratment from elasitc about adding support for keystone to kibana | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | hosanai: do you have any topics? | 15:12 |
| hosanai | in last week we made an use-case for monasca-analytics (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_analytics). I'm wondering if we have more that kind of use-cases or pain points in large env like charter | 15:13 |
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| hosanai | I would like to have use-cases like it based on actual problems | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | hosanai: sounds good | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | i think we could start to build up a catalog of use cases | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | similar to how that one was written up | 15:16 |
| hosanai | yeah, sounds great! | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | i like that one, because i though it would be "simpler" to implement | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | and fit in with the ElasticSearch and Kibana | 15:17 |
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| rhochmuth | a very compelling use case, that we don't have to build a lot of extra infrastructure around | 15:17 |
| hosanai | rhochmuth: i see | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | i spent a good amount of time trying to understand LDA and Dirichlet distributions | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | but, i still have to study more | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | i think some other use cases that can be added are | 15:19 |
| hosanai | rhochmuth: ok, i will submit WIP state of LDA soon | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | anomaly detection for metrics | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | i could write-up that one too | 15:19 |
| hosanai | which algorizm do you use? | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | i would be interested in understanding how the LINGAM algorithm workds differently than LDA | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | i don't have a specific algorihm in mind for anomaly detection in metrics, other than what I've used in the past | 15:21 |
| hosanai | mean algorithm in your branch? | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | yeah | 15:21 |
| hosanai | I didn't play with LNGAM but it's usuful to reduce operator's work | 15:22 |
| hosanai | i think | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'm going to head-off to another meeting | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | see you next week | 15:23 |
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| hosanai | bye | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 15:23:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-02-15.00.html | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-02-15.00.txt | 15:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-02-15.00.log.html | 15:23 |
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| markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 16:00:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | Hi folks--anyone here for the DefCore/Interop Working Group meeting today? Or are we all still traveling/recovering from Summit? | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | I know eglute and hogepodge are probably out today.... | 16:01 |
| * notmyname lurks | 16:01 | |
| * markvoelker thinks this is going to be a very short meeting | 16:01 | |
| markvoelker | Ok, sounds like no quorum today. | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | FYI notmyname: eglute was going to work on breaking down the Swift patch into separate ones for new capabilities and new tests for existing capabilities | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | She may ping you about that once she returns from Europe if she needs help | 16:03 |
| notmyname | ok. I'm happy to work with her on that as she needs it | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | thanks! | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 16:03:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-02-16.00.html | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-02-16.00.txt | 16:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-02-16.00.log.html | 16:03 |
| notmyname | best. meeting. ever. | 16:03 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 16:03 |
| markvoelker | I am fond of the short ones | 16:04 |
| * markvoelker goes back to code | 16:04 | |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:05 |
| Rockyg | Dang! you're too fast markvoelker ! | 16:05 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 2 20:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is r1chardj0n3s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | yeah bot must have disconnected | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:01 |
| robcresswell | woohoo | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hello folks :-) | 20:01 |
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| * ducttape_ better late than never | 20:01 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | OK, got a few things to mention | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Selenium has been removed from the gate (was non-voting) | 20:01 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391342/ | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | These jobs were a burden on the gate systems and since they are broken and not voting, there is no reason for them to run. | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | We still have the non-voting check jobs to test out fixes. | 20:02 |
| betherly | sounds good! | 20:02 |
| tsufiev | +1 | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I think I saw tsufiev already has a patch up to test out Firefox version shenanigans | 20:02 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, had a patch already for pinning marionette, and recently uploaded single browser fix | 20:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | cool, will keep an eye on them then | 20:04 |
| tsufiev | now we've another occurrence of an old issue - mozilla ftp is not responding in time | 20:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | oh :-/ | 20:04 |
| tsufiev | thus our pinned firefox is unable to download | 20:04 |
| tsufiev | will recheck it shortly after to see if it's a temporary issue | 20:04 |
| tsufiev | but it still is downloadable by hand | 20:04 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | just like the phantomjs downloading, we need that thing to be cached or something. | 20:05 |
| rdopiera | wait, we are downloading and installing firefox for every test? | 20:05 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, nope, just for the whole suite | 20:05 |
| rdopiera | so for every patch | 20:05 |
| tsufiev | doing it for every test would be too much even for us | 20:05 |
| tsufiev | yep, that's true | 20:05 |
| tsufiev | for every patch it is | 20:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok, well, we will keep an eye on it, and how about we talk to #infra about possible caching options for the firefox download? | 20:06 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, comparing to all the stuff happening during devstack deploy (for every patch) that's not a big dieal | 20:06 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, it would be awesome if they agreed | 20:06 |
| ducttape_ | if we could add it to the base image used for testing, that'd be nice | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #action Richard to talk to #openstack-infra about browser install file caching | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (I think #action is a thing ;-) | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Does infra have its own requirements mirror, or just use pypi? | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | yup, it is | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: yes, we mirror pypi | 20:07 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, well, may be we need a special builder macros, something like legacy-firefox | 20:07 |
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| tsufiev | there is already 'firefox' builder macro | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: I'm sure we can sort out the detail with them :-) | 20:08 |
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| robcresswell | cool. I've been mirroring things locally too because otherwise testing out multiple tox things takes forveerrrr | 20:08 |
| * robcresswell is off topic | 20:08 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: oh, yes, definitely run your own local mirror, I shall provide clues for that later if you like :-) | 20:08 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | ok, moving on | 20:08 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Summit recap | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit recap (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:09 | |
| * tsufiev thought for a moment about containers hotness | 20:09 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106520.html | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Please have a read! | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | And discuss, if you find anything controversial :-) | 20:09 |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s, that was a very nice recap :) | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks tsufiev, I also hope it was accurate :-) | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic New Keystone/Horizon meeting | 20:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Keystone/Horizon meeting (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:10 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | The kickoff for these meetings will be 8th November 2000UTC in #openstack-meeting-cp | 20:10 |
| stevemar | \o/ | 20:10 |
| tsufiev | every week? | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ohai stevemar :-) | 20:10 |
| rdopiera | -cp? | 20:10 |
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| tsufiev | cross-project? | 20:11 |
| rdopiera | ah, x-project | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | not openstack-meeting-copy | 20:11 |
| tsufiev | yeah, should have named it *-xp :) | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | :) | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | It's a temporary channel until we agree on a more permanent meeting time/place | 20:11 |
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| robcresswell | :o need logs | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yes, it's a logged channel | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | oh, neat | 20:12 |
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| robcresswell | TIL | 20:12 |
| stevemar | tsufiev: r1chardj0n3s we ended up with a list of things that need to be fixed in keystone/horizon and i imagine the meetings will go on until we've got patches up for all the broken things :) | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, what stevemar said :-) | 20:12 |
| ducttape_ | they aren't broken, they are opportunities | 20:12 |
| tsufiev | haha, I guess we're going to have these meeting for a long time ;) | 20:12 |
| ducttape_ | ;) | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | newest d_o_a release has fixed token revocation btw. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | I've not tagged new stable yet. | 20:12 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Priority patches for review | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority patches for review (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:13 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | Our priorities discussion at the summit ended up with a number of patches already in-flight that would be super awesome to land by Ocata-1 | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ... which is just under two weeks away :-) | 20:14 |
| ducttape_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389866/ is a simple one, if I can advocate for ediardo | 20:14 |
| betherly | wow that comes round fast | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | For your convenience, I have tagged them in gerrit for you: | 20:15 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:r1chardj0n3s%20AND%20status:open | 20:15 |
| ediardo | :) | 20:15 |
| * robcresswell feels the pressure | 20:15 | |
| ediardo | Guys, I'll need extra eyes on this patch that 'tries | 20:15 |
| ediardo | to fix a few bugs in magicsearch | 20:16 |
| ediardo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388200/ | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | Of course please do look at bug patches also, those ones I've starred are the features / ground work for the priorities we've tagged for Ocata goals | 20:16 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | There is also ui-router, which I need to get moving through the xstatic packaging machinery and into requirements | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ui-router | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (and I also need to update some POC code, I think) | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | Made myself Approver so I can hassle you about its progress | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks robcresswell :-) | 20:18 |
| ducttape_ | would that help with extensibility issues ? | 20:18 |
| ducttape_ | seems like maybe | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | If anyone has a patch that they feel is missing from the starred list please let me know. | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ducttape_: ui-router is necessary for more complex angularjs panels with nested information in them | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | like Swift UI with container -> objects | 20:19 |
| ducttape_ | sure, I just didn't know if it might also provide extension hooks to change certain behaviors | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that's an interesting angle I hadn't considered | 20:20 |
| * ducttape_ needs to stay on topic, sorry | 20:20 | |
| lcastell | I have this one that's been around for a while https://review.openstack.org/327224 (server side filtering for swift) | 20:20 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | ducttape_: please do mumble such things in the BP whiteboard :-) | 20:20 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | lcastell: we will definitely be looking to land that in Ocata, though I have been talking to swift folks about getting more useful filtering than just prefix | 20:21 |
| lcastell | yeah, right now is pretty lame :( | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | still useful though | 20:21 |
| betherly | r1chardj0n3s: I notice you said re panels again... is there any change to preference re people developing panels vs plugins? | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | betherly: we still prefer for non-"core" services to be plugins | 20:22 |
| ducttape_ | you will get a mix of both betherly | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | we definitely like people to be working on both | 20:22 |
| betherly | ok cool. thanks! just wanted to check :) | 20:22 |
| ducttape_ | if you are doing a plugin, chances are high it also contains a panel or 2 | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | I smell sarcasm | 20:23 |
| ducttape_ | none from me | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | :p | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | never | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Priority bugs | 20:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority bugs (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:24 | |
| betherly | nor me | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1624743 | 20:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1624743 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Project image table: admin user sees images which are not shared with me" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Brad Pokorny (bpokorny) | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | Oh, we should remove bpokorny probably | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (this is a short list, because I ran out of time ;-) | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | though it seems like he is lurking in the meeting if my autocomplete is right | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, this one needs more eyes/brains on it | 20:25 |
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| ducttape_ | I think this is really a glance bug too | 20:25 |
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| robcresswell | I haven't looked yet, but will do | 20:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I've also not had a chance to look into it in any detail | 20:26 |
| robcresswell | Also we should really fix the default LI source, its changed to volume snapshot or something for some reason | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | weird | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Open Discussion | 20:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:28 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell you wanted to have a local pypi mirror | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389352/ << Patch for Horizon 10.0.1 | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I recommend http://doc.devpi.net/latest/quickstart-pypimirror.html | 20:29 |
| * ducttape_ if only anyone knew how to setup and run pypi | 20:29 | |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Excellent, thats what I've been using | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | hahaa | 20:29 |
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| ducttape_ | :p | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that would be a handy person to have around, ducttape_ | 20:29 |
| rdopiera | there is also devpi | 20:29 |
| rdopiera | by the author of tox and pytest | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | rdopiera: that's what I linked ;-) | 20:29 |
| * robcresswell wonders if rdopiera can read | 20:29 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | ouch | 20:29 |
| rdopiera | indeed | 20:30 |
| rdopiera | I'm blind | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:30 |
| rdopiera | forgot to tell you | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | I've got post conference illness so I'm just grumpy | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-( | 20:30 |
| rdopiera | shows the advantage of js over python -- all those indentations are difficult to touch-read | 20:30 |
| ducttape_ | jamon-flu | 20:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm having a long weekend this coming weekend, so I'm away from tomorrow on | 20:31 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | it's PAX AU weekend :-D | 20:31 |
| rdopiera | I think I will have a long weekend due to a sick-leave, if this continues | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but it means I won't be around much after today until next week. | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | I forsee many reviews ahead | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | "today" being Thursday in my timezone | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | ah, the future. | 20:32 |
| rdopiera | good to know, let's prepare to merge all the stuff we don't want you to see | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | in the future, breakfast is needed | 20:32 |
| ducttape_ | if you need anything done yesterday, lemme know | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | quotas? | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | heh | 20:32 |
| ducttape_ | touché | 20:33 |
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| rdopiera | incidentally, quotas planning has been postponed due to flu | 20:33 |
| ducttape_ | I think I will hack up the tests for those things more significantly | 20:33 |
| ducttape_ | btw | 20:33 |
| rdopiera | I mean that landing page pagination stuff | 20:33 |
| tsufiev | what's about throwing away all existing quota tests first, ducttape_? | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | On a serious note, we really do need eyes on those XStatic updates. This cycle is short already, and for stability sake we cant really merge important libs past b2 | 20:33 |
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| tsufiev | would be less work to do ;) | 20:34 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, what robcresswell said | 20:34 |
| ducttape_ | yep, lets get those merged / in and find all the bugs | 20:34 |
| rdopiera | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:^stackforge/xstatic.*+status:open,n,z | 20:34 |
| rdopiera | ^-- useful link | 20:34 |
| ducttape_ | tsufiev: I will likely change the tests so they look like what our future vision would be, not the old confusing past with quotas | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | rdopiera: stackforge? | 20:34 |
| tsufiev | actually, if throwing them away allowed us to rewrite tests using mock instead of mox, that would be really good | 20:35 |
| r1chardj0n3s | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:^openstack/xstatic.*+status:open,n,z is corrected link | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | ohai 2014 :p | 20:35 |
| rdopiera | argh | 20:35 |
| rdopiera | explains why it was always empty | 20:35 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-D | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:35 |
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| robcresswell | make typo. no reviews. job done. | 20:35 |
| * r1chardj0n3s notes those are already in the priorities starred list ;-) | 20:35 | |
| robcresswell | yeah, I was just emphasising the point | 20:36 |
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| robcresswell | emphasizing for those in the US | 20:36 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that's cool :-) | 20:36 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok, any other business? | 20:36 |
| r1chardj0n3s | or can I go have breakfast? | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | most of them I've updated MAIN too, so we can steadily remove those hacks from our codebase | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | I'm all done, you may eat | 20:36 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ robcresswell for more MAIN | 20:37 |
| ducttape_ | thanks all | 20:37 |
| rdopiera | by the way, what is there to review in an xstatic | 20:37 |
| rdopiera | other than metadata and comparing the files with the upstream repo? | 20:37 |
| r1chardj0n3s | rdopiera: I tend to install it and make sure horizon doesn't fall about laughing, mostly | 20:37 |
| ducttape_ | I'd think you want to download patch and deploy it rdopiera | 20:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | and then double-check the metadata is sane | 20:38 |
| rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: how do you check horizon? | 20:38 |
| ducttape_ | reviewing line by line is going to be painful / not helpful I'd think | 20:38 |
| rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: smoke tests? | 20:38 |
| rdopiera | grenade? | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | install it locally and run tests, then just try it | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | there's the JS unit tests for one | 20:38 |
| tsufiev | rdopiera, that what some used integration tests for | 20:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, what robcresswell said | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | and any big JS like bootstrap, jquery, angular, will likely console log as soon as its evaluated | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | ok, so check the logs | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | by the way, we still have that compatibility layer in there? | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | for jquery? | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | if tests pass and there are no obvious breakages, i.e. workflows are okay, nothing visually catastrophic, then check metadata and content, merge away | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | We do indeed | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | We could probably go straightto jquery 3 without much trouble since we basically only use it for selectors and simple manipulation... | 20:40 |
| rdopiera | but probably not in this release :) | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | well, depends on workload. Also I think jquery is still owned by someone else iirc | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | also depends on reviews :) | 20:41 |
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| robcresswell | anyway we can discuss this another time | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok, I think we're done. thanks everyone for coming, and catch you in #openstack-horizon :-) | 20:42 |
| rdopiera | good night | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | \o thanks r1chardj0n3s | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #endmeeting | 20:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 2 20:42:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:42 |
| tsufiev | night! | 20:42 |
| betherly | thanks all | 20:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-02-20.00.html | 20:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-02-20.00.txt | 20:43 |
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