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| ildikov | matjazp: hi. are we having a meeting today or next week? | 13:03 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: even and odd weeks make me even more confused than time zones usually... :S :) | 13:03 |
| matjazp | hey | 13:05 |
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| matjazp | ildikov: odd weeks = 1,3,5 :) | 13:07 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: but can be odd week of the year, week of the month, etc. :) | 13:07 |
| matjazp | no. even weeks= 2,4, odd weeks=1,3,5 (if there is one) | 13:08 |
| matjazp | ildikov: so it's based on week of the month | 13:08 |
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| ildikov | matjazp: I think going for a yearly basis would be more consistent | 13:10 |
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| ildikov | anyway, meeting is next week then | 13:12 |
| matjazp | ildikov : true, but nobody knows the number of the current week in the year... I think that this odd/even weeks in the month is the usual approach for recurrent meetings. | 13:12 |
| matjazp | ildikov: yes. you have anything to discuss? we can move to the #openstack-doc channel? | 13:13 |
| ildikov | matjazp: no, next week will be fine, tnx :) | 13:13 |
| matjazp | ok, take care. bye! | 13:14 |
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| tdurakov | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 8 14:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
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| tdurakov | hi everyone | 14:00 |
| * kashyap waves | 14:01 | |
| tdurakov | kashyap: hi! | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | anyone else is here? | 14:01 |
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| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:02 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: Might want to make another reminder on -nova | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | did it 5 minutes ago | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | so | 14:02 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: This is the internet, no many have attention spans beyond 10 seconds | 14:02 |
| kashyap | s/no/not/ | 14:02 |
| wznoinsk | hi | 14:03 |
| tdurakov | so, let's start | 14:03 |
| tdurakov | #topic ci | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ci (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:03 | |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379638 - it seems like the patch isn't merged yet | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | while it was resubmitted, will try to ping folks in openstack-qa after meeting | 14:05 |
| tdurakov | another one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389546/ - chain is ready, hope nova cores will review it soon | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | so we will have ceph backend tested | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | anything on ci topic? | 14:07 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: Do we test post-copy in one of the experimental Gate CI jobs? | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | not sure | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | it's worth to check imo | 14:08 |
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| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:09 |
| tdurakov | at least ci uses xenial | 14:09 |
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| pkoniszewski | we don't | 14:09 |
| pkoniszewski | qemu on xenial does not support post copy AFAIK | 14:09 |
| kashyap | Hm | 14:10 |
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| pkoniszewski | yeah, it is 2.5 that has only experimental support (and no support in libvirt), we need qemu 2.6 to support it and higher version of libvirt | 14:10 |
| kashyap | pkoniszewski: I think we need to get that "Test Nova w/ libvirt / QEMU from source" thing in the Gate "soon" | 14:10 |
| pkoniszewski | yeah, would be worth to have it | 14:11 |
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| kashyap | It came up at the Summit discussion, /me tries to pull up the notes | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | any blockers now to test post-copy? | 14:13 |
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| kashyap | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-devstack-plugin | 14:14 |
| pkoniszewski | no support in gate sounds like a blocker | 14:15 |
| kashyap | tdurakov: Not that I know of. I wasn't following it closely | 14:15 |
| kashyap | pkoniszewski: Yeah, apart from what pkoniszewski says :-) | 14:15 |
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| pkoniszewski | another thing is that live migration start in pre-copy mode | 14:16 |
| pkoniszewski | even if post copy is allowed | 14:16 |
| tdurakov | I mean could we upgrade qemu during post hook | 14:17 |
| pkoniszewski | we would need to have deterministic way to slow down LM a bit so that we are sure that post-copy trigger will happen | 14:17 |
| pkoniszewski | hmm, this might make sense | 14:17 |
| wznoinsk | post_hook is after tempest | 14:18 |
| wznoinsk | local.sh run by devstack may be a choice to run stuff after stacking and before tempest | 14:18 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: set the bandwidth really low normally works or better start something busy in the guest | 14:19 |
| pkoniszewski | VMs that we have in gate are very small with software virtualization | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | even if we upgrade qemu after tempest | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | first run | 14:20 |
| pkoniszewski | setting bandwidth to something low sounds better | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: let's try that way then | 14:21 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: Although depending how you trigger postcopy (do you do it based on time or do you do it on number of iterations I can't remember) | 14:22 |
| pkoniszewski | based on percentage increase | 14:22 |
| davidgiluk | try a low bandwidth setting, it's the best bet if you've got nothing to run in the guest | 14:22 |
| pkoniszewski | if percentage increase in a subsequent iteration is less than 10% then we trigger post copy | 14:23 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: although if desperate something like a dd bs=<large> in the guest can get you a bit of dirtying | 14:23 |
| tdurakov | who wants to try? | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | #action tdurakov to check possibilities for post-copy testing | 14:26 |
| tdurakov | about intel nfv ci | 14:27 |
| wznoinsk | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106949.html | 14:27 |
| wznoinsk | re nfv tests upstream vs. tempest plugin | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: thanks for tread started | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | so we have 2 options, let's wait for feedback from qa | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | as for me both options will work | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | any thoughts on that? | 14:29 |
| wznoinsk | I'm only wondering would some companies be not willing using 'intel' tests repo :) | 14:30 |
| tdurakov | we could move them to openstack tree | 14:30 |
| wznoinsk | meaning: governed mainly by intel + sfinucan from RH at this moment | 14:30 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: They're in the OpenStack tree (big tent) alright | 14:31 |
| wznoinsk | it's under opentsack namespace https://github.com/openstack/intel-nfv-ci-tests | 14:31 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: Maybe we could just rename to nfv-tests? GitHub lets us do that | 14:31 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: ++ | 14:31 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan, I was having similar thinking, I think what's unsure is the scope of that tho | 14:32 |
| wznoinsk | sfinucan, I mean should be broaden what tests we'd like to see there, nfv, hw related too? (PCI, SRIOV) etc. | 14:32 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: https://help.github.com/articles/renaming-a-repository/ Can't speak for the official OpenStack Git repos though | 14:32 |
| sfinucan | I'd like to see the PCI tests included in there also, yes | 14:32 |
| tdurakov | sfinucan: what pci tests? | 14:33 |
| sfinucan | Basically anything that needs hardware and is NFV-related | 14:33 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: Any custom tests the Intel PCI CI may be running at the moment | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | yeah, let's rename it then, and wait for feedback from qa | 14:33 |
| sfinucan | I don't know how that works though. wznoinsk? | 14:34 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov I will find a link to these PCI tests sfinucan is talking about in a moment, | 14:34 |
| sfinucan | (Getting Mellanox to open source their test suit would be great too, but that's another thing) | 14:34 |
| sfinucan | tdurakov: Sounds good | 14:34 |
| wznoinsk | re renaming I think we should compile work items list first and then get them done | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | before renaming repo check that existing nfv job config is updated | 14:34 |
| sfinucan | wznoinsk: ++ | 14:35 |
| sfinucan | no point renaming if we end up merging into the Tempest tree :) | 14:35 |
| wznoinsk | tdurakov, here's a copy of PCI tests written and run by Intel PCI CI https://github.com/wznoinsk/hw-tests | 14:35 |
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| wznoinsk | yes, ML can help with defining the scope as well I hope | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: got it, will ping qa after the meeting | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | let's wait for feedback first | 14:36 |
| wznoinsk | I'll start an etherpad on nfv-tests then | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | ++ | 14:36 |
| tdurakov | wznoinsk: please answer with the etherpad to that thread, so we could track this topic | 14:37 |
| wznoinsk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-tests should have some in it on the next meeting | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | let's go next | 14:37 |
| tdurakov | #topic bugs | 14:38 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389687/ - so, have you discussed it with jaypipes? | 14:39 |
| davidgiluk | raj_singh: I noticed you'd taken the postcopy network bug off Matt; if you need any help from the qemu/postcopy side let me know | 14:39 |
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| pkoniszewski | not yet, patch that sahid mentioned has just been merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394808/ | 14:39 |
| pkoniszewski | so i'll ask jay to take a look once again on this one | 14:39 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: ok, do you need any help with this? | 14:40 |
| raj_singh | davidgiluk: Thx will do. | 14:40 |
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| pkoniszewski | i don't think so, we have a lot of people there trying to get this stuff merged | 14:41 |
| tdurakov | there is another one, worth to highlight, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338929/ | 14:42 |
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| tdurakov | need to ping Lee Yarwood | 14:43 |
| tdurakov | any other bugs? | 14:43 |
| tdurakov | #topic specs | 14:43 |
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| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: do you have an update for sr-iov topic? | 14:44 |
| pkoniszewski | we are still stuck on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389687/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244489/ | 14:45 |
| pkoniszewski | Nikola's change has one more race condition that we need to solve | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | oh, claims | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | will review it soon | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | added to list | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | other topics? | 14:47 |
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| raj_singh | I will like to work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347161/. So reviews will help | 14:48 |
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| tdurakov | raj_singh: what about Paul Carlton? | 14:49 |
| tdurakov | is he ok with that? | 14:49 |
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| raj_singh | Already talked to him and he don't have bandwidth to work on it | 14:50 |
| tdurakov | raj_singh: acked | 14:50 |
| tdurakov | ok then | 14:50 |
| tdurakov | it looks like spec is almost aproved | 14:50 |
| raj_singh | yea almost :) | 14:51 |
| tdurakov | good, then you could start to work on implementation, imo | 14:51 |
| SridharP | join | 14:51 |
| pkoniszewski | Paul had some code up for review | 14:51 |
| pkoniszewski | you might want to reuse at least part of it | 14:51 |
| pkoniszewski | raj_singh: ^ | 14:52 |
| raj_singh | yes I am going to start on it soon | 14:52 |
| pkoniszewski | AFAIK it was working, but required some quality improvements | 14:52 |
| raj_singh | pkoniszewski: Ok I will take a look | 14:52 |
| * johnthetubaguy adds patches to TODO list | 14:53 | |
| tdurakov | let's move on | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | #topic open discussion | 14:53 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: could you please take a look on patches that block sr-iov topic, see above | 14:55 |
| tdurakov | anything else to bring? | 14:56 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: You might find dropping bandwidth doesn't help if you're triggering off % - unless the guest is dirtying pages the % wont rise just because migration is slow | 14:56 |
| pkoniszewski | davidgiluk: yeah, i'm still thinking of your idea about running dd on guest | 14:57 |
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| pkoniszewski | davidgiluk: i tried to slow down live migrations in gate some time ago, but i hit the wall | 14:58 |
| tdurakov | need to finish meeting | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | thanks you for coming | 14:59 |
| tdurakov | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 8 14:59:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-11-08-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-11-08-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-11-08-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: Give me a prod by mail if you need any other suggestions on that | 15:01 |
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| gothicmindfood | amrith: dhellmann - I keep getting disconnected, does someone else want to chair? | 15:01 |
| amrith | no worries | 15:01 |
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| amrith | #startmeeting openstack-swg | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 8 15:01:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_swg' | 15:01 |
| amrith | #chair dhellmann gothicmindfood | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood | 15:01 |
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| amrith | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 8 15:02:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-11-08-15.01.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-11-08-15.01.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-11-08-15.01.log.html | 15:02 |
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| amrith | sorry, I was an hour early | 15:02 |
| amrith | have fixed my clock now | 15:02 |
| amrith | ;) | 15:02 |
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| gothicmindfood | this is the right time, right? | 15:02 |
| gothicmindfood | my VM is on UTC and tells me it's 1500 | 15:03 |
| jroll | \o | 15:03 |
| amrith | the meeting is at 11am right? | 15:03 |
| gothicmindfood | ohhai | 15:04 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: nope, UTC doesn't adjust | 15:04 |
| gothicmindfood | so it's right now | 15:04 |
| jroll | yeah, is currently 1500 | 15:04 |
| amrith | jroll, please be the tie breaker | 15:04 |
| amrith | #startmeeting openstack-swg | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 8 15:04:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amrith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_swg' | 15:04 |
| amrith | #chair gothicmindfood dhellmann | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: amrith dhellmann gothicmindfood | 15:04 |
| amrith | here we go again | 15:04 |
| jroll | for the record: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings/swg-meeting.yaml | 15:04 |
| * dhellmann is in a second meeting, so only paying partial attention for a bit | 15:04 | |
| amrith | courtesy ping ttx, jroll, johnthetubaguy, sdague, mordred, carolbarrett, nikhil, mugsie, thingee, alexismonville, edleafe, EmilienM, harlowja, devananda, bastafidli | 15:04 |
| * jroll is listening but has a conflicting meeting to watch | 15:05 | |
| amrith | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SWGMeeting | 15:05 |
| amrith | hello all. | 15:05 |
| ttx | ohai | 15:05 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 15:05 |
| mugsie | o/ | 15:05 |
| amrith | I'm trying to figure out why my calendar appointment is at the wrong time | 15:05 |
| amrith | but I can do that in parallel | 15:05 |
| amrith | sorry for the delay starting the meeting | 15:05 |
| amrith | #topic Review/recap Barcelona events | 15:05 |
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| * mordred waves at the lovely people | 15:06 | |
| amrith | gothicmindfood is on a plane or some other place with questionable wifi | 15:06 |
| amrith | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Barcelona-SWG-cp | 15:06 |
| amrith | #link | 15:06 |
| amrith | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juGktZ3xabA | 15:06 |
| amrith | I was unable to attend the CP meeting | 15:06 |
| amrith | so if someone else who was there wants to fill in details about that it would be good | 15:06 |
| mugsie | I got the CP meeting, but not the panel | 15:06 |
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| gothicmindfood | so I thought the CP meeting went really well | 15:07 |
| ttx | yes, I think the reception was generally positive | 15:07 |
| gothicmindfood | I didn't manage to get any drawings up beforehand per alexismonville 's suggestion | 15:07 |
| mugsie | yeah. It highlighted the need for some concise docs about the core concepts that we have been talking about | 15:07 |
| jroll | +1 | 15:07 |
| gothicmindfood | but it turned out that folks wanted a servant leadership explanation so I ended up doing one | 15:07 |
| mugsie | gothicmindfood: yeah, I think that helped quite a few people | 15:08 |
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| gothicmindfood | and mugsie is totally right - lots of people seemed to want in on some basic understanding of some of hte core concepts we talked about in leadership training | 15:08 |
| jroll | I took an action item to add servant leadership to our principles, btw, that's here | 15:08 |
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| jroll | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390864/ | 15:08 |
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| gothicmindfood | jroll: \o/ | 15:09 |
| ttx | now we need to make sure people realize this is not about adopting someone else framework, but more about realizing a lot of those concepts were already practiced within openstack | 15:09 |
| amrith | jroll, that review is up for discussion at the tc meeting today, yes? | 15:09 |
| ttx | yes | 15:09 |
| jroll | yep | 15:10 |
| gothicmindfood | awesome. | 15:10 |
| jroll | ttx: want me to respin that between now and the tc meeting? | 15:10 |
| amrith | jroll, given ttx feedback, that sounds like a good thing. If you could do that, there's a chance to get this merged at the meeting | 15:11 |
| ttx | probably wait and see what the reception is, unless you agree with the changes | 15:11 |
| ttx | but yes, what amrith said | 15:11 |
| jroll | okay, will do :) | 15:11 |
| amrith | or what ttx said ;) | 15:11 |
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| ttx | The way it stands it reads a bit too much like "We follow the 6 Sigma[tm]" | 15:12 |
| gothicmindfood | so that's a good start - a lot of folks in both sessions seemed keen on the idea of communicating the principles/culture bits of OpenStack to their own management chain | 15:12 |
| jroll | heh | 15:12 |
| gothicmindfood | haha | 15:12 |
| amrith | I understand where Eoghan is coming from and it may be worthwhile to make the change. | 15:12 |
| ttx | We don't want people to disregard the whole thing out of jargonpathy | 15:13 |
| amrith | as someone who wasn't at the session; what were the things that were discussed that got the most interest, reaction? | 15:13 |
| jroll | yeah, I think so | 15:13 |
| amrith | communication? | 15:13 |
| amrith | principles? | 15:13 |
| amrith | culture? | 15:13 |
| amrith | what the heck is this group? | 15:13 |
| amrith | something else? | 15:13 |
| ttx | amrith: I think people were interested in formalizing concepts a bit, and give tooling/help to leaders in our peculiar env | 15:13 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: it felt a lot more like an explaining session with a little bit of therapy thrown in than an organizing-our-next-piece-of-work session | 15:13 |
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| mugsie | what the concepts were, and what a lot of terms meant | 15:14 |
| gothicmindfood | but that doesn't mean it didn't have pointers towards a direction that migh tbe useful for us | 15:14 |
| amrith | and other than the jroll action item, what were the other things to do, (actions) and next steps? | 15:14 |
| ttx | In summary: "Leadership in OpenStack is very special, but there are tools and frameworks that exist that can help us, the SWG is there to explore those and help you in your work" | 15:14 |
| mugsie | and then a brief diverengece for "how to build teams" :) | 15:14 |
| amrith | were there any gotchas or "don't you dare's"? | 15:14 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: I asked more people to come to the meetings, and to participate. | 15:15 |
| ttx | amrith: no don't you dare's. Those were all in the concurrent live upgrade session, I think | 15:15 |
| gothicmindfood | hahaha | 15:15 |
| amrith | I see one new name today; GheRivero. Hello! | 15:15 |
| GheRivero | amrith: hi all! o/ | 15:16 |
| amrith | GheRivero, were you at the CP meeting? | 15:16 |
| gothicmindfood | there was some confusion about how to solve the gnarly "people problems" with all of this conceptual stuff | 15:16 |
| GheRivero | only the last part of if... so can't be really helpful | 15:16 |
| amrith | cool, what did you think of it (the parts you were able to attend) | 15:17 |
| amrith | gothicmindfood, that came up in the panel as well, to an extent. | 15:18 |
| gothicmindfood | yup | 15:18 |
| amrith | so, sounds like no other action items. | 15:18 |
| amrith | thx jroll for finishing your TODO. | 15:18 |
| amrith | that seems like a good transition to our next item | 15:19 |
| amrith | #topic Organize feedback from Barcelona sessions & turn into action items for SWG | 15:19 |
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| GheRivero | I got the idea that one of the key "problems" by PTL and managers are the different people's cultures | 15:19 |
| amrith | interesting | 15:19 |
| GheRivero | what can be normal for people in Europe or AMS, can be really rude on Asia... and vice versa | 15:19 |
| jroll | I'd say more of a "hard thing" than a "problem", but yeah, that was echoed | 15:19 |
| gothicmindfood | GheRivero: and also, interestingly, at the panel discussion there was a request for more resources to communicate OpenStack's culture to internal companies | 15:19 |
| amrith | I did not hear this from others in their feedback about the CP. anyone want to elaborate on this? I know I've said this about code reviews in the past but didn't realize that it came up in the CP. | 15:20 |
| ttx | yes that's orthogonal to the servant leadership stuff in a way, but something we definitely struggle with | 15:20 |
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| ttx | amrith: that was raised as a "people" problem that is hard to solve | 15:20 |
| amrith | jroll, ttx, gothicmindfood ... this sounds like a thing to follow up on some more | 15:20 |
| ttx | it's like a completely different set of problems, but which thise group could also tackle | 15:21 |
| ttx | this* | 15:21 |
| gothicmindfood | yeah, ttx and mordred mentioned (I think?) something about a discussion at the board meeting around providing more resources for companies who are participating in openstack | 15:21 |
| amrith | and interestingly, looking at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Barcelona-SWG-cp it does not appear to be listed | 15:21 |
| gothicmindfood | is that a thing we might want to work with the board on? | 15:21 |
| ttx | helping user companies be successful in their dev investment, which includes building a multiculturally-friendly contribution env | 15:21 |
| amrith | gothicmindfood, I was in that session; board+tc. and yes, that's something I agreed to help with as well. | 15:21 |
| ttx | we are not bad, but we are not really good either | 15:22 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: awesome. | 15:22 |
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| gothicmindfood | I think the "many cultures" problem is sort of orthogonal to leadership problems, but it intersects when it come sto defining and writing down principles/culture/ways we agree to work with one another | 15:22 |
| amrith | ok, so an action item ... | 15:24 |
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| amrith | #action follow up on the tools and resources to help companies build their contributions in a multiculturally friendly way that best benefits OpenStack | 15:24 |
| amrith | let's give that to ttx :) | 15:24 |
| amrith | #action [ttx] follow up on the tools and resources to help companies build their contributions in a multiculturally friendly way that best benefits OpenStack | 15:24 |
| * gothicmindfood appreciates amrith keeping us on track | 15:25 | |
| amrith | any other action items coming out of BCN? | 15:25 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: I'd love to sort through those things with/for you, if you want help there :) | 15:25 |
| gothicmindfood | I'd like an action item for us to be figuring out what we want to accomplish between now and the PTG | 15:25 |
| gothicmindfood | it's a short period of time | 15:25 |
| amrith | #action [gothicmindfood] to drive the creation of a list of deliverables for PTG | 15:26 |
| gothicmindfood | quick q related to our Barcelona vision: did people find it effective/helpful? | 15:26 |
| gothicmindfood | because it might help to draft a vision for sessions/work at the PTG, too | 15:27 |
| amrith | I did | 15:27 |
| GheRivero | sure, it was | 15:27 |
| amrith | but I'm an 'insider'. I wonder what others felt | 15:27 |
| gothicmindfood | I, personally, found it way easier to feel "successful" at the end based on what we wrote, and how we clarified our expectations | 15:27 |
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| gothicmindfood | GheRivero: what did you find helpful about it? | 15:28 |
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| gothicmindfood | jroll: what did you think about it? | 15:28 |
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| jroll | gothicmindfood: the vision? I think it helped, yes | 15:29 |
| * ttx rereads it | 15:29 | |
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| GheRivero | in my case, since I was developer before manager, I had plenty of gaps about all the leadership and people... still have, but now I know were to focus my efforts | 15:30 |
| gothicmindfood | our Barcelona vision, for folks playing at home: | 15:30 |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: a bit optimistic, especially on the panel attendance :) | 15:30 |
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| gothicmindfood | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BarcelonaSWGMagic | 15:30 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: yes, but even that optimism is valuable to see in hindsight | 15:30 |
| gothicmindfood | I know now that focusing recruiting for sessions is super important | 15:31 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 15:31 |
| ttx | gothicmindfood: so you're not really supposed to do a vision retrospective and enumerate the various ways you failed, right ? | 15:31 |
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| ttx | It's more a tool to build the future than a tool to judge the past iiuc | 15:31 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: there is no failure, there is oonly opportunity for growth :) | 15:31 |
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| mugsie | the problem with tryiong to recruit for these sessions is they appeal to a limited sub set of attendees | 15:32 |
| ttx | mugsie: I think that is fine | 15:32 |
| mugsie | I managed to drag two people along, and they got good value from it | 15:32 |
| ttx | The prime reason for this group to exist is that it's not the type of issues that most people like to solve | 15:32 |
| mugsie | but they would not have gone otherwise | 15:32 |
| jroll | ttx++ | 15:32 |
| gothicmindfood | mugsie: thanks for recruiting :) | 15:33 |
| ttx | I happen to like solving those, but I recognize I'm a bit special. Or so my mom used to say | 15:33 |
| amrith | so I think one thing that I got out of the sessions in BCN was a conversation I had with gothicmindfood one morning where I asked her what I thought the SWG was. Her answer to that (which I will let her talk about) is something that I think may be worthwhile sending to the ML. | 15:33 |
| amrith | s/what I thought/what she thought/ | 15:33 |
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| gothicmindfood | amrith: oh god, now I have to remember what I said | 15:34 |
| gothicmindfood | remind me? | 15:34 |
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| amrith | so I think one thing that I got out of the sessions in BCN was a conversation I had with gothicmindfood one morning where I asked her what she thought the SWG was. Her answer to that (which I will let her talk about) is something that I think may be worthwhile sending to the ML. | 15:34 |
| amrith | ok, the answer (paraphrasing slightly) was that the SWG was the place where people can have the hard converations that they have no other place to have. | 15:34 |
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| amrith | it is an extension on the theme of how often have you (openstack community person) been in an openstack related conversation on some forum where you have bitten your tongue and not said what you wanted to say. | 15:35 |
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| amrith | here's the place where you can say (some of) those things. | 15:35 |
| amrith | not all ... some :) | 15:35 |
| jroll | ++ | 15:35 |
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| jroll | that was brought up somewhere, can't remember if it was the panel or CP session | 15:36 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: I'd append that to say "here's the place where you can find resources to help you figure out how to say those things effectively and constructively" :) | 15:36 |
| amrith | the others, you don't want to say. or email. or put in IRC ... because if you do, you'll have to delete those emails and we all know what happens then. | 15:36 |
| gothicmindfood | I don't just want us to put out a 10cent therapy jar - I want us to help every single person in the community be able to move forward with a problem they have that they might not otherwise feel empowered to work through | 15:37 |
| gothicmindfood | ok | 15:37 |
| gothicmindfood | so I am going to work on a vision for hte PTG for the next two weeks | 15:38 |
| * dhellmann charges 25cents | 15:38 | |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: you could get away with at least twice that :) | 15:38 |
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| dhellmann | gothicmindfood : friends and family discount | 15:38 |
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| gothicmindfood | I'd love some help, so I'll talk in the -swg channel about it when I get a semi-working draft up | 15:39 |
| gothicmindfood | from that vision, hopefully our action items/work will spring | 15:39 |
| gothicmindfood | does that sound good to everyone? | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | ++ | 15:39 |
| amrith | so, gothicmindfood what about my suggestion to get this on the ML | 15:39 |
| amrith | at least the part which was "what is the SWG" | 15:40 |
| amrith | to the ML | 15:40 |
| gothicmindfood | I also have an action item to get rolling on organizing the next in-person training for next year | 15:40 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: ah, okay | 15:40 |
| amrith | so that maybe we can get the 10c for your time (and 25c for dhellmann). these are tough times and every penny counts ;0 | 15:40 |
| gothicmindfood | I'll take that as an actio nitem too :) | 15:40 |
| gothicmindfood | #action gothicmindfood to write a basic concept of the SWG to the ml | 15:40 |
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| amrith | #action [gothicmindfood] Send a note to the ML about the SWG; what's the SWG? we're your one stop "Ask Colette" column :) | 15:41 |
| amrith | sounds good. anything else about BCN; I want to also timecheck; we're 41 min in.. | 15:41 |
| gothicmindfood | #action gothicmindfood to reach out to new tc members to find out about possible training dates for 2017 | 15:41 |
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| gothicmindfood | any thoughts from folks who attendthe panel session on how that went? | 15:42 |
| amrith | good point, ttx ok to throw that in the "open discussion" at the tc meeting today? | 15:42 |
| ttx | sure | 15:42 |
| ttx | we should have time | 15:42 |
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| * gothicmindfood may or may not be there based on travel constraints | 15:42 | |
| gothicmindfood | (I'll try thought) | 15:42 |
| gothicmindfood | okay, should we have a throwdown abou ta new meeting time now? ;) | 15:43 |
| amrith | gothicmindfood, I'll toss it in the ring at the right time. | 15:43 |
| ttx | yes! | 15:43 |
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| amrith | #topic Discuss rescheduling meeting time based on new attendees (and gothicmindfood's changed schedule) | 15:43 |
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| amrith | gothicmindfood, you have the floor ... | 15:43 |
| gothicmindfood | so - my schedule is a little bonkers the next two months | 15:43 |
| gothicmindfood | and I need to move our meeting time because of that | 15:43 |
| gothicmindfood | Tuesdays are out entirely | 15:43 |
| gothicmindfood | and I want to be very mindful of ttx 's timezone and everyone else in Europe, and also mindful of hte fact that we are pretty much excluding our APAC folks right now with our timing | 15:44 |
| * amrith thinks it would be important to move the meetings to accommodate gothicmindfood's schedule. | 15:44 | |
| * amrith also thinks sleep is overrated | 15:44 | |
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| ttx | gothicmindfood: when can you make it ? | 15:45 |
| gothicmindfood | I uploaded the current meeting schedule to view in an ical, and it looks like this time (1500 UTC) on Wednesdays is booked with four other meetings | 15:45 |
| ttx | let me see I may have freed up a slot there | 15:45 |
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| ttx | ah, no, that one is pretty solid | 15:45 |
| gothicmindfood | but I could certainly do 1400 UTC, which only (according to the most recent ical I could find) has two meetings scheduled on Wednesdays | 15:45 |
| ttx | ed 14 works for me | 15:46 |
| ttx | Wed* | 15:46 |
| jroll | 1400 any day wfm | 15:46 |
| gothicmindfood | that change (1400 UTC on Wednesday) is probably the least disruptive/most like our current time | 15:46 |
| ttx | Actually better than this time slot where I'm in pre-call mode | 15:46 |
| ttx | also slightly more APAC-friendly | 15:46 |
| jroll | 1400 is 6am for west-coasters, which isn't ideal but hey | 15:46 |
| gothicmindfood | PST-ers are gonna have to have some coffee on wednesdays, for sure | 15:46 |
| gothicmindfood | yeah | 15:46 |
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| gothicmindfood | how many pst-ers do we have currently participating? | 15:47 |
| gothicmindfood | also - this is really just for the next two months, and we could maybe change it back later/if more PSTers were interested in attending | 15:48 |
| * jroll has no idea how many PST folks we have | 15:48 | |
| jroll | indeed | 15:48 |
| gothicmindfood | does that sound okay to everyone? | 15:48 |
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| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: how is your 1400 on wednesdays? | 15:48 |
| ttx | odd weeks on Wednesday at 1400 UTC on #openstack-meeting-4 is free | 15:48 |
| * dhellmann checks | 15:48 | |
| dhellmann | wednesday is currently my only uninterrupted day, so I would rather not add a meeting there, really | 15:49 |
| ttx | or odd weeks on Wednesday at 1400 UTC on #openstack-meeting | 15:49 |
| amrith | 9am eastern on wednesdays is when I'm driving ... | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | oh, and I do have a conflict at that time | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | it's just not a meeting | 15:49 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: but we can inspire you with leadership at the beginning of your day! | 15:49 |
| gothicmindfood | hm | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | thursday same time? | 15:50 |
| gothicmindfood | the 1400 and 1500 time slots on thursday seem super booked | 15:50 |
| gothicmindfood | (4 meetings each there right now) | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | ah | 15:50 |
| ttx | I'm pretty sure I just freed up some | 15:50 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: ah! which ones? | 15:50 |
| ttx | Bilean | 15:51 |
| gothicmindfood | ok, so that's 1400 UTC on Thursdays | 15:52 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394842/ | 15:52 |
| amrith | so, are we feeling we'll get this scheduled now or do we want to take it offline to a doodle? | 15:52 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: I assume that's still your normal commute time? | 15:52 |
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| amrith | gothicmindfood, which day? | 15:52 |
| amrith | thursday, I can handle that | 15:52 |
| gothicmindfood | I'd like to do it now, if we can manage. | 15:52 |
| gothicmindfood | awesome | 15:52 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: 1400 on Thursdays? | 15:52 |
| amrith | ok, you have 6 minutes :) | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood : yes | 15:53 |
| gothicmindfood | sweeeeet | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | starting this week or next? | 15:53 |
| gothicmindfood | who would like to take the action to change our meeting time to odd thursdays, at 1400 UTC? | 15:53 |
| * dhellmann is down from 3 to only 2 concurrent activities | 15:54 | |
| * gothicmindfood already has all hte action items and feels it's only appropriate to share :) | 15:54 | |
| amrith | is that time available (meetingroom ?) | 15:54 |
| ttx | amrith: just replace https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394842/ | 15:54 |
| gothicmindfood | amrith: yup, hte Bilean team meeting is getting moved out of #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:54 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi All - Got lost in the time change, sorry for being late. | 15:54 |
| gothicmindfood | CarolBarrett: hey! Awesome to see you! | 15:54 |
| ttx | before someone else steals it :) | 15:54 |
| amrith | #action [amrith] take over bilean time for openstack-swg | 15:54 |
| CarolBarrett | I'm not likely to make 1400 UTC, will follow in IRC logs | 15:55 |
| ttx | biweekly-odd #openstack-meeting-3 | 15:55 |
| amrith | ok | 15:55 |
| gothicmindfood | CarolBarrett: oh, bummer. I have a personal resolution to make #openstack-swg a little more active in the meantime so hopefully we can talk lots there, too | 15:55 |
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| CarolBarrett | gothicmindfood: sounds good! | 15:56 |
| gothicmindfood | thanks for chairing while I'm on a plane, amrith ! | 15:56 |
| gothicmindfood | should we give everyone a couple minutes back? | 15:57 |
| amrith | #topic Open Discussion | 15:57 |
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| gothicmindfood | ha | 15:57 |
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| gothicmindfood | actually - I would really really really love any good leadership book recommendations anyone has | 15:58 |
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| gothicmindfood | and we can take this to -swg | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | gothicmindfood : we should start a shared list somewhere | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | maybe the wiki -- this group needs a place to write things down | 15:59 |
| gothicmindfood | dhellmann: ++ | 15:59 |
| ttx | "Where in the world is my team" by Terence Brake -- good for distributed team management | 15:59 |
| gothicmindfood | ttx: ooooh, that could be super useful | 15:59 |
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| ttx | A bit dated now but formed most of my theory on community management | 16:00 |
| ttx | also more original than just recommending "Drive" :) | 16:01 |
| gothicmindfood | :) | 16:01 |
| gothicmindfood | okay, let's take book discussion to -swg | 16:01 |
| gothicmindfood | thanks for attending everyone, and thanks amrith for leading us today! | 16:01 |
| ttx | (which is exceleent but everyone knows it) | 16:01 |
| amrith | #link https://review.openstack.org/395057 | 16:01 |
| amrith | that's the review for the meeting change | 16:01 |
| amrith | with that, time to move to -swg ... | 16:02 |
| amrith | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 8 16:02:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-11-08-15.04.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-11-08-15.04.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_swg/2016/openstack_swg.2016-11-08-15.04.log.html | 16:02 |
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| sambetts | #startmeeting networking_cisco | 16:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 8 16:09:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sambetts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_cisco)" | 16:09 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_cisco' | 16:09 |
| sambetts | Hey team sorry for the late start, clocks changing etc has screwed up everyones calendars | 16:09 |
| bobmel | sambetts: Hi Sam, anything on the agenda? | 16:10 |
| sambetts | As always the agenda is here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/networking-cisco | 16:10 |
| bradjones | o/ | 16:10 |
| bradjones | yeah my calendar showed meeting in another hour so I guess I have some things to change :) | 16:10 |
| bobmel | bradjones: Have you set the calendar item for the meeting to UTC? Then it should show it correcly | 16:11 |
| bradjones | bobmel: I have now :) | 16:12 |
| sambetts | Ok so first off | 16:13 |
| sambetts | #topic Announcements | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking_cisco)" | 16:13 | |
| sambetts | #action Clocks have gone back please ensure that your calendars are setup with 16:00 UTC for this meeting | 16:14 |
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| sambetts | RDO team have unpinned our newton and mitaka releases, so both RDO releases should be using networking-cisco 4.0.0 | 16:15 |
| bobmel | sambetts: maybe use info keyword for such announcements | 16:16 |
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| sambetts | oh yeah that make more sense | 16:17 |
| sambetts | #undo | 16:17 |
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| sambetts | #info Clocks have gone back please ensure that your calendars are setup with 16:00 UTC for this meeting | 16:18 |
| sambetts | #info RDO team have unpinned our newton and mitaka releases, so both RDO releases should be using networking-cisco 4.0.0 | 16:18 |
| sambetts | any other annoucements? | 16:18 |
| bradjones | nothing from me | 16:20 |
| bobmel | me neither | 16:21 |
| sambetts | cool moving on then | 16:22 |
| caboucha | me neither | 16:22 |
| sambetts | #topic Driver support going forward | 16:22 |
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| sambetts | Basically this topic is about the quality of networking-cisco and the drivers we support | 16:23 |
| sambetts | we have a large number of different drivers in the networking-cisco package, managed by different teams | 16:23 |
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| sambetts | currently there is some inconsistncy with the test coverage provided for some of the drivers in the repo | 16:24 |
| bobmel | sambetts: indeed | 16:24 |
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| bradjones | I can provide some more info here | 16:24 |
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| sambetts | and also there are some drivers that havn't got an active developer to support them | 16:24 |
| bradjones | I tried to calculate the coverage for each of the different drivers results were: | 16:25 |
| bradjones | SAF ~= 56% | 16:25 |
| bradjones | ASR1K / CSR1KV ~= 73% | 16:25 |
| bradjones | CPNR ~= 53% | 16:25 |
| bradjones | ML2 Apic ~= 81% | 16:25 |
| bradjones | ML2 N1kv ~= 88% | 16:25 |
| bradjones | ML2 Nexus ~= 91% (WOOOO! :D) | 16:25 |
| bradjones | ML2 UCSM ~= 74% | 16:26 |
| bradjones | ^ as a rough guide for the plugins currently letting us down | 16:26 |
| bobmel | Do we have a set bar? | 16:26 |
| bradjones | we're aiming for 80% across the project | 16:26 |
| bradjones | we need to come up with a timeline for everyone to hit that 80% | 16:27 |
| bradjones | I think at the moment we should just aim to hit that by the end of this openstack release cycle | 16:27 |
| bradjones | so got a few months to sort it out | 16:27 |
| bradjones | caboucha: nice job with the nexus plug :) | 16:28 |
| bradjones | *plugin | 16:28 |
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| bobmel | Some of the files makes sense to exclude from coverage calcs. I've been told there is a way to do that but I have not tested it. | 16:28 |
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| bradjones | yeah if you can let me know what files then I can sort it out for you | 16:29 |
| bobmel | bradjones: Ok, I'll get back to you with some examples. | 16:30 |
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| bradjones | we're currently @ about 62% coverage across the project, but that might be a little higher if we're currently including files which don't make sense | 16:30 |
| sambetts | The problem we're going to run into is that some of the drivers listed here under 80% coverage aren't getting activly developed, and so that puts us in a difficult position if we want to push for 80% coverage across the project | 16:30 |
| sambetts | so we need to reach out to the teams that own the drivers, and the suggestion we have is that they either step up to the mark to increase their coverage or we move them out of networking-cisco | 16:31 |
| bobmel | For the ASR1k/CSR1kv we're a bit low on some parts of the config agent code and then we have some files which do not make sense to test but which reduce overall coverage | 16:31 |
| bobmel | sambetts: I think that makes sense. | 16:33 |
| bradjones | my 2 cents would be let's keep networking-cisco for actively developed drivers & if we have drivers that are no longer being developed they should be moved to a staging repo or something | 16:33 |
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| sambetts | yup, we also want to push for CI for all in-tree drivers | 16:34 |
| bobmel | bradjones: Is there such a staging repo? | 16:34 |
| bradjones | bobmel: not yet but we could create one if needed | 16:34 |
| bobmel | or where you thinking of the repos in CiscoSystems on github` | 16:34 |
| bobmel | ? | 16:34 |
| sambetts | we havn't created it yet, we were thinking networking-cisco-staging or something like that in git.openstack.org | 16:34 |
| bobmel | ok | 16:35 |
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| bobmel | Given that this is a short release, those affected need to get going soon | 16:37 |
| bobmel | For the ASR1k/CSR1kv I think it should not be difficult to meet the requirement in time. | 16:38 |
| bradjones | bobmel: excellent :D | 16:39 |
| sambetts | yeah, we will need to have at least one release with the drivers deprecated before we can remove them from tree and when we do we will have to cut a major version number release, standard deprecation period in OS is 3 months | 16:39 |
| bradjones | we'll have to reach out to SAF folks offline | 16:40 |
| bobmel | bradjones: I get the feeling you interpreted my statement as if I was volunteering for the ASR1k/CSR1kv work :-) | 16:41 |
| bradjones | bobmel: you mean you're not volunteering ;-) | 16:42 |
| bradjones | haha | 16:42 |
| sambetts | CPNR is another plugin that I'm unsure of activity, we'll need to reach out to all the teams offline to ensure everyone is aware | 16:42 |
| bradjones | yup | 16:43 |
| sambetts | it might be worth us maintaining a list of driver contacts in the project repo README or something, just so that we know who to call if something breaks too | 16:44 |
| bobmel | sambetts: Good idea | 16:44 |
| sambetts | third party CI is the other peice of the puzzle here too | 16:46 |
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| sambetts | so ideally we should have third party CI covering every driver we have in the project | 16:46 |
| sambetts | currently we only have nexus, tailf, ucsm and cpnr covered | 16:47 |
| bobmel | I'm poorly updated on the CI side of things | 16:47 |
| bobmel | I thought we once had something for ASR1k too | 16:48 |
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| sambetts | our third party CI is currently down, I see an old job that isn't running any longer for csr1k | 16:49 |
| sambetts | I don't see one for asr | 16:49 |
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| bobmel | Ah, yes, wrong of me, if was for CSR1kv we had it | 16:50 |
| sambetts | the third party CI is currently down due to lab issues which doesn't help the scenario which means none of our plugins are being CI'd right now | 16:51 |
| sambetts | I think we'll need further downstream discussions regarding third party CI and equipment etc | 16:52 |
| bobmel | sambetts: Yes, agree. | 16:53 |
| sambetts | ok as we only have 10 mins left I'm going to move on to the next topid | 16:53 |
| sambetts | topic | 16:53 |
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| sambetts | #topic CI Status | 16:53 |
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| sambetts | #info CI is down due to a problem with the node running jenkins/zuul etc we are working on fixing the problem | 16:54 |
| bobmel | sambetts: For the old CSR1kv CI I think it is Nikolay who did most of the work. I helped out in the beginning. | 16:54 |
| sambetts | ok cool, yeah the equipment might still be there for running that job, we might just need to fix up the code that runs the tests | 16:55 |
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| sambetts | the neutron PTL is working on creating a list of tempests tests that all neutron plugins should meet, we should switch our testing over to use that suite of tests once it is confirmed | 16:56 |
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| sambetts | #topic Sub/Driver team feedback | 16:57 |
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| sambetts | Sub-teams any driver specifc updates? | 16:58 |
| sambetts | I'll take silence as a no | 16:58 |
| sambetts | #topic Review Priorities | 16:58 |
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| sambetts | I would like to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363835/ merged before anything else so we can start adding release notes for any further commits to networking-cisco | 16:59 |
| sambetts | including the driver deprecations | 16:59 |
| bradjones | sambetts: i'll take a look at the release notes one again | 17:00 |
| sambetts | thanks :) | 17:00 |
| sambetts | following that caboucha you might be interested in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366261/ | 17:00 |
| sambetts | but folks we're out of time | 17:00 |
| sambetts | so thanks again for attending and see you in 2 weeks time | 17:01 |
| sambetts | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 8 17:01:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_cisco/2016/networking_cisco.2016-11-08-16.09.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_cisco/2016/networking_cisco.2016-11-08-16.09.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_cisco/2016/networking_cisco.2016-11-08-16.09.log.html | 17:01 |
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