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jroll#startmeeting ironic17:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 14 17:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
JayFo/17:00
vdroko/17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'17:00
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mariojvo/17:00
HoloIRCUser3o/17:00
jrollas always, agenda:17:00
lucasagomeso/17:00
dtantsuro/17:00
rpiosoo/17:00
mgouldo/17:00
rlooo/17:00
jroll#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting17:00
jrolllet's jump in17:00
jroll#topic announcements and reminders17:00
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements and reminders (Meeting topic: ironic)"17:00
jrolla reminder for people with features touching nova: nova spec freeze is thursday (nov 17)17:01
krtayloro/17:01
jlvillalo/17:01
jrollnot much of an announcement, but I saw good progress on lots of things last week17:01
jrollgood work everyone \o/17:01
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jrollanyone else have a thing here?17:01
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mjturek1o/17:01
rlooocata priorities were 'finalized'17:01
mariojvPTG registration is open, not sure if that was covered last time17:02
jrollah, yes17:02
TheJuliao/17:02
xavierro/17:02
jrollthose are here:17:02
jroll#link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/priorities/ocata-priorities.html17:02
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jrolland yes, PTG reg is open17:02
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jroll#link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-tickets-2754929869417:02
rloooh, trello board for ocata priorities: https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-ocata-priorities17:02
rloo#link https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-ocata-priorities17:02
jrollwe plan to be wed-fri for ironic meetup, though I suspect most people will leave friday afternoon17:03
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jrollthanks rloo and mariojv17:03
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HoloIRCUser3o/17:03
jrollanything else?17:04
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jroll#topic subteam status reports17:04
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jrollthese start around line 81 here:17:04
jroll#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard17:04
jrollwoo for new pep8 passing17:05
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jrollinterface attach/detach spec/BP went through, we should get that code done early as it blocks nova portgroups code17:05
rlooso what's the order for portgroups & attach/detach code?17:06
rlooironic portgroups, ironic attach/detach, nova attach/detach, nova portgroups?17:06
jrollyeah, sounds right17:06
vdrokjroll: so we need to land the actual code in nova till feature freeze? Jan 23-27?17:07
rlooi see 'movement' wrt the nova spec for portgroups. does it look close to being approved this week?17:07
jrollBFV stuff looks ready for review17:07
jrollvdrok: yep17:07
jrollrloo: yes, I think it will be approved this week17:07
jrollrloo: it has a +2 now17:07
rloojroll: sweet!17:07
jroll:)17:07
vdrokjroll: that was fast :)17:08
stendulkero/17:08
jrollit's not on a subteam report, but I've made some progress on dropping ironic code from tempest - I think that will be ready to land this week as well17:09
rloovdrok: yes, nova code has to land by feature freeze, R-4 like you said17:09
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vdrokyup, thanks17:09
rloosambetts: wrt attach/detach -- you'll let us know this week when you've got the updated patches?17:10
jrolldo "this week's priorities" look alright to folks? I updated it a bit (line 74)17:10
sambettsrloo: yup will do :) Ironic side is nearly finished, just adding more tests17:11
rloosambetts: thx17:11
jrollI'd like to get root device hints done and get it out of the way, same for notifications17:11
dtantsurlgtm17:11
jlvillalIf people want to stick in links to the patches to review for the priorities, I wouldn't object :)17:11
TheJuliajroll: lgtm17:11
rloojroll: root device hints docs should be fairly easy, not sure it is a priority?17:11
lucasagomesI need to update the docs, will do it tomorrow (writting it down here)17:11
jrolljlvillal: yeah, I plan to add links17:11
lucasagomes(for root device hints I mean)17:11
jlvillalThanks17:12
jrollrloo: I worry it will get left behind if we don't just get it done now17:12
jrollrloo: it's also on trello left over from newton17:12
rloojroll: it is close, lucasagomes just has to update i think.17:12
jrollyeah17:12
rloojroll: ah, the real reason :)17:12
jrollkeeping visibility will help us just get it over with :)17:12
rloojroll: true17:12
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rloojroll: what about the security patch then?17:12
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jrollrloo: security groups?17:13
rloojroll: security groups :)17:13
milano/17:13
jrollrloo: same idea, I guess, though I've been keeping a close eye on it17:13
vdrokrloo: just couple of unittests missing there17:13
jrollright ^ almost done17:13
jrollsukhdev needed some help with it, once we work it out I'll plug it for review17:14
rloook, good.17:14
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jrollcool, sounds like we have another week nice and full of work - anything else here?17:14
rlooi'm looking for a week that is not nice and not full of work :)17:15
JayFrloo: thanksgiving is next week, that'll only be about 60% full of work :P17:15
rlooJayF: phew. Saved!17:15
* jroll hands rloo a vacation request form17:15
jroll:D17:15
TheJulialol17:15
vdroklucky you!17:16
jrollnext up17:16
jroll#topic Bringing MoltenIron into the Ironic governance17:16
*** openstack changes topic to "Bringing MoltenIron into the Ironic governance (Meeting topic: ironic)"17:16
mjturekheyo17:16
jrollhi krtaylor, mjturek17:16
jrolldoes anyone need background on this or do we all remember the previous conversation(s)?17:16
rlooi thought we had decided to do it17:16
mjturekso hamzy has projectized molteniron https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/molteniron17:16
* lucasagomes thinks he remembers it17:17
mjturekhttps://launchpad.net/molteniron17:17
TheJuliarloo: ditto17:17
jrollrloo: well, we decided it fits in our new rules, now it's time to exercise those17:17
jroll:)17:17
jrollalso not everyone was in that room17:17
lucasagomes#link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html17:17
lucasagomesthe rules btw ^17:17
rloooh, i thought we exercised it at the time too, but yay, we get to vote on something? :)17:17
jrolland ironic's rules specifically17:17
jroll#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/dev/governance.html17:17
jrollso one concern I pointed out to the molteniron folks last week was a bunch of self-approved patches17:18
jrolllooks like they understand that's not okay and are already changing that17:18
mjturekyep I've been making it a priority to review new changes17:18
mjturekwell17:18
jrollsee the last few here17:18
jroll#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/molteniron17:18
mjturekones that aren't mine17:18
jrollmjturek: :)17:19
mjturek:)17:19
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jrollso otherwise I think this looks like an ironic project, does anyone else disagree / have concerns?17:19
jroll(and should we formally vote or is lazy consensus enough?)17:19
rlooso is molteniron going to be tested in the gate?17:20
JayFI think formal voting sometimes takes less time than informal consensus, lol :). I agree with their inclusion though.17:20
* TheJulia thinks lazy consensus/polling for disagreement works17:20
jrollrloo: depends what you mean, I guess, they already have unit tests and pep817:20
sambettsCI for a CI tool is an interesting paradox17:20
vdrokrloo: I think use it , in the third party ci17:20
vdrok*they use it17:21
rloojroll: depends on what the new-project-requirements mean: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html17:21
xavierrsambetts: lol17:21
jlvillalSo will ironic-core be added to the project as core reviewers?17:21
lucasagomessambetts, hah indeed17:21
mjturekrloo: right we have pep8 and unit tests17:21
mjturekrloo: and pkvmci is using it17:21
rlooThe project has core reviewers and adopts a test-driven gate in the OpenStack infrastructure for changes17:21
jrollrloo: yeah, pep8/unit tests is enough17:21
jlvillalmjturek: Off topic, but a coverage job would be nice (if not existing) and see what the percentage is for the unit tests.17:21
lucasagomesjlvillal, yes, I think we agreed that all projects under the ironic umbrella will include the ironic-drivers group, right ?17:21
rloook, that is good enough for me17:21
jrollsee also http://governance.openstack.org/reference/project-testing-interface.html17:21
rloojlvillal: yes17:21
jlvillalThanks17:22
mjturekjlvillal: sounds fair to me. I'd be interested in that as well17:22
rloomjturek: who are the core reviewers?17:22
mjturekas of now it's myself, krtaylor, and hamzy17:22
rloosounds good to me. mjturek, are you all at ibm?17:23
jrollI expect ironic-core to have core reviewer rights on any ironic project, btw17:23
jroll(which I may need to fix)17:23
mjturekrloo: yes17:23
mjturekwe're open to others of course17:23
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krtaylorbut we'd like to get non-ibmers involved of course17:23
mjturek+117:23
rlooso i think this is fine. what happens in a year or so if only ibm is contributing? guess we can revisit it then if we feel like it17:23
jrollyeah, I think that should be a case-by-case thing17:23
krtaylorsounds reasonable17:24
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mjturekagreed17:24
rlooso lets vote cuz we so rarely do it. how many votes are needed anyway?17:25
* rloo looks for fun in the smallest things17:25
jrollwe have 11 cores17:25
jrollso 6 I guess?17:25
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* jroll doesn't think we have rules about consensus written down17:25
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jroll#startvote should molteniron be in ironic governance? Yes, No17:26
openstackBegin voting on: should molteniron be in ironic governance? Valid vote options are Yes, No.17:26
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.17:26
jroll#vote yes17:26
lucasagomes#vote yes17:26
sambetts#vote yes17:26
rloo#vote yes17:26
JayF#vote yes17:26
jlvillal#vote yes17:26
stendulker#vote yes17:26
TheJulia#vote yes17:26
vdrok#vote yes17:27
dtantsur#vote yes17:27
jrollperfect time for UPS to come \o/17:27
* jroll waits another minute or two17:27
TheJuliajroll: that is the nature of the universe17:27
jrolllooks like a yes though17:27
mjturek\o/17:28
jroll#endvote17:28
openstackVoted on "should molteniron be in ironic governance?" Results are17:28
jlvillalI think that is 9 cores.17:28
openstackYes (10): TheJulia, lucasagomes, dtantsur, rloo, jlvillal, JayF, stendulker, vdrok, jroll, sambetts17:28
lucasagomesmjturek, krtaylor btw, some refactoring on the tests files name and directory structure would be appreciated (to match ironic and other projects): https://github.com/openstack/molteniron/tree/master/molteniron/tests17:28
krtaylorlucasagomes, absolutely17:28
jrollmjturek: would you like to propose the governance repo change or shall I?17:28
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rloocongrats mjturek, krtaylor, hamzy !17:28
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jrollmjturek: I have some changes to do there anyway, so I don't mind17:29
mjturekjroll: that would be appreciated. thanks!17:29
jrollcool, no problem17:29
mjturekthanks rloo!17:29
jrollok what's next17:29
jroll#topic open discussion17:29
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)"17:29
jrollkarthiks had a thing, otherwise the floor is open17:29
karthiksWe have proposed a spec for retrieving NUMA node information during introspection17:29
karthikshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/396147/17:30
karthiksPlease give us feedback.17:30
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xekI also updated the spec on rolling upgrades17:31
xekhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/299245/17:31
jrollsweet, thanks xek17:31
jrollI guess one more thing we should make sure we hit this week :)17:31
jlvillal#info Rolling upgrade spec updated: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299245/17:31
milankarthiks, I'll take look as well17:31
karthiksThanks milan17:31
milankarthiks, np17:32
rloojroll: i was going to suggest next week - to look at some specs. i saw some in the subteam reports that might need some attention.17:32
jrollrloo: yeah, we should get all of the specs out of the way soon17:32
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jrollbefore we bikeshed all the way into release day17:32
rloojroll: yup. i figured we already had a lot on our plate this week17:33
JayFWould any folks be interested in a spec review jam?17:33
jrollindeed, but if folks need things to fill their free time, specs are good17:33
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jrollJayF: it could help, maybe we all try to look at some priority specs, and if there seems to be contentious things, line them up for a jam17:33
rloojroll: true -- i challenge anyone to have free time though, after going through this week's priorities! a beer on me!17:33
jroll:P17:34
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jrollanything else or do we want 25 minutes back?17:35
jrollcool cool, thanks y'all :)17:35
jroll#endmeeting17:35
sambettso/17:35
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Nov 14 17:35:42 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:35
vdrokthanks17:35
TheJuliao/17:35
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-11-14-17.00.html17:35
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-11-14-17.00.txt17:35
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-11-14-17.00.log.html17:35
lucasagomesthanks all17:35
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