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jroll | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 14 17:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jroll. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
JayF | o/ | 17:00 |
vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
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mariojv | o/ | 17:00 |
HoloIRCUser3 | o/ | 17:00 |
jroll | as always, agenda: | 17:00 |
lucasagomes | o/ | 17:00 |
dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
mgould | o/ | 17:00 |
rloo | o/ | 17:00 |
jroll | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 17:00 |
jroll | let's jump in | 17:00 |
jroll | #topic announcements and reminders | 17:00 |
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jroll | a reminder for people with features touching nova: nova spec freeze is thursday (nov 17) | 17:01 |
krtaylor | o/ | 17:01 |
jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
jroll | not much of an announcement, but I saw good progress on lots of things last week | 17:01 |
jroll | good work everyone \o/ | 17:01 |
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jroll | anyone else have a thing here? | 17:01 |
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mjturek1 | o/ | 17:01 |
rloo | ocata priorities were 'finalized' | 17:01 |
mariojv | PTG registration is open, not sure if that was covered last time | 17:02 |
jroll | ah, yes | 17:02 |
TheJulia | o/ | 17:02 |
xavierr | o/ | 17:02 |
jroll | those are here: | 17:02 |
jroll | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/priorities/ocata-priorities.html | 17:02 |
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jroll | and yes, PTG reg is open | 17:02 |
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jroll | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-tickets-27549298694 | 17:02 |
rloo | oh, trello board for ocata priorities: https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-ocata-priorities | 17:02 |
rloo | #link https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-ocata-priorities | 17:02 |
jroll | we plan to be wed-fri for ironic meetup, though I suspect most people will leave friday afternoon | 17:03 |
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jroll | thanks rloo and mariojv | 17:03 |
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HoloIRCUser3 | o/ | 17:03 |
jroll | anything else? | 17:04 |
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jroll | #topic subteam status reports | 17:04 |
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jroll | these start around line 81 here: | 17:04 |
jroll | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 17:04 |
jroll | woo for new pep8 passing | 17:05 |
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jroll | interface attach/detach spec/BP went through, we should get that code done early as it blocks nova portgroups code | 17:05 |
rloo | so what's the order for portgroups & attach/detach code? | 17:06 |
rloo | ironic portgroups, ironic attach/detach, nova attach/detach, nova portgroups? | 17:06 |
jroll | yeah, sounds right | 17:06 |
vdrok | jroll: so we need to land the actual code in nova till feature freeze? Jan 23-27? | 17:07 |
rloo | i see 'movement' wrt the nova spec for portgroups. does it look close to being approved this week? | 17:07 |
jroll | BFV stuff looks ready for review | 17:07 |
jroll | vdrok: yep | 17:07 |
jroll | rloo: yes, I think it will be approved this week | 17:07 |
jroll | rloo: it has a +2 now | 17:07 |
rloo | jroll: sweet! | 17:07 |
jroll | :) | 17:07 |
vdrok | jroll: that was fast :) | 17:08 |
stendulker | o/ | 17:08 |
jroll | it's not on a subteam report, but I've made some progress on dropping ironic code from tempest - I think that will be ready to land this week as well | 17:09 |
rloo | vdrok: yes, nova code has to land by feature freeze, R-4 like you said | 17:09 |
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vdrok | yup, thanks | 17:09 |
rloo | sambetts: wrt attach/detach -- you'll let us know this week when you've got the updated patches? | 17:10 |
jroll | do "this week's priorities" look alright to folks? I updated it a bit (line 74) | 17:10 |
sambetts | rloo: yup will do :) Ironic side is nearly finished, just adding more tests | 17:11 |
rloo | sambetts: thx | 17:11 |
jroll | I'd like to get root device hints done and get it out of the way, same for notifications | 17:11 |
dtantsur | lgtm | 17:11 |
jlvillal | If people want to stick in links to the patches to review for the priorities, I wouldn't object :) | 17:11 |
TheJulia | jroll: lgtm | 17:11 |
rloo | jroll: root device hints docs should be fairly easy, not sure it is a priority? | 17:11 |
lucasagomes | I need to update the docs, will do it tomorrow (writting it down here) | 17:11 |
jroll | jlvillal: yeah, I plan to add links | 17:11 |
lucasagomes | (for root device hints I mean) | 17:11 |
jlvillal | Thanks | 17:12 |
jroll | rloo: I worry it will get left behind if we don't just get it done now | 17:12 |
jroll | rloo: it's also on trello left over from newton | 17:12 |
rloo | jroll: it is close, lucasagomes just has to update i think. | 17:12 |
jroll | yeah | 17:12 |
rloo | jroll: ah, the real reason :) | 17:12 |
jroll | keeping visibility will help us just get it over with :) | 17:12 |
rloo | jroll: true | 17:12 |
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rloo | jroll: what about the security patch then? | 17:12 |
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jroll | rloo: security groups? | 17:13 |
rloo | jroll: security groups :) | 17:13 |
milan | o/ | 17:13 |
jroll | rloo: same idea, I guess, though I've been keeping a close eye on it | 17:13 |
vdrok | rloo: just couple of unittests missing there | 17:13 |
jroll | right ^ almost done | 17:13 |
jroll | sukhdev needed some help with it, once we work it out I'll plug it for review | 17:14 |
rloo | ok, good. | 17:14 |
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jroll | cool, sounds like we have another week nice and full of work - anything else here? | 17:14 |
rloo | i'm looking for a week that is not nice and not full of work :) | 17:15 |
JayF | rloo: thanksgiving is next week, that'll only be about 60% full of work :P | 17:15 |
rloo | JayF: phew. Saved! | 17:15 |
* jroll hands rloo a vacation request form | 17:15 | |
jroll | :D | 17:15 |
TheJulia | lol | 17:15 |
vdrok | lucky you! | 17:16 |
jroll | next up | 17:16 |
jroll | #topic Bringing MoltenIron into the Ironic governance | 17:16 |
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mjturek | heyo | 17:16 |
jroll | hi krtaylor, mjturek | 17:16 |
jroll | does anyone need background on this or do we all remember the previous conversation(s)? | 17:16 |
rloo | i thought we had decided to do it | 17:16 |
mjturek | so hamzy has projectized molteniron https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/molteniron | 17:16 |
* lucasagomes thinks he remembers it | 17:17 | |
mjturek | https://launchpad.net/molteniron | 17:17 |
TheJulia | rloo: ditto | 17:17 |
jroll | rloo: well, we decided it fits in our new rules, now it's time to exercise those | 17:17 |
jroll | :) | 17:17 |
jroll | also not everyone was in that room | 17:17 |
lucasagomes | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html | 17:17 |
lucasagomes | the rules btw ^ | 17:17 |
rloo | oh, i thought we exercised it at the time too, but yay, we get to vote on something? :) | 17:17 |
jroll | and ironic's rules specifically | 17:17 |
jroll | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/dev/governance.html | 17:17 |
jroll | so one concern I pointed out to the molteniron folks last week was a bunch of self-approved patches | 17:18 |
jroll | looks like they understand that's not okay and are already changing that | 17:18 |
mjturek | yep I've been making it a priority to review new changes | 17:18 |
mjturek | well | 17:18 |
jroll | see the last few here | 17:18 |
jroll | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/molteniron | 17:18 |
mjturek | ones that aren't mine | 17:18 |
jroll | mjturek: :) | 17:19 |
mjturek | :) | 17:19 |
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jroll | so otherwise I think this looks like an ironic project, does anyone else disagree / have concerns? | 17:19 |
jroll | (and should we formally vote or is lazy consensus enough?) | 17:19 |
rloo | so is molteniron going to be tested in the gate? | 17:20 |
JayF | I think formal voting sometimes takes less time than informal consensus, lol :). I agree with their inclusion though. | 17:20 |
* TheJulia thinks lazy consensus/polling for disagreement works | 17:20 | |
jroll | rloo: depends what you mean, I guess, they already have unit tests and pep8 | 17:20 |
sambetts | CI for a CI tool is an interesting paradox | 17:20 |
vdrok | rloo: I think use it , in the third party ci | 17:20 |
vdrok | *they use it | 17:21 |
rloo | jroll: depends on what the new-project-requirements mean: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html | 17:21 |
xavierr | sambetts: lol | 17:21 |
jlvillal | So will ironic-core be added to the project as core reviewers? | 17:21 |
lucasagomes | sambetts, hah indeed | 17:21 |
mjturek | rloo: right we have pep8 and unit tests | 17:21 |
mjturek | rloo: and pkvmci is using it | 17:21 |
rloo | The project has core reviewers and adopts a test-driven gate in the OpenStack infrastructure for changes | 17:21 |
jroll | rloo: yeah, pep8/unit tests is enough | 17:21 |
jlvillal | mjturek: Off topic, but a coverage job would be nice (if not existing) and see what the percentage is for the unit tests. | 17:21 |
lucasagomes | jlvillal, yes, I think we agreed that all projects under the ironic umbrella will include the ironic-drivers group, right ? | 17:21 |
rloo | ok, that is good enough for me | 17:21 |
jroll | see also http://governance.openstack.org/reference/project-testing-interface.html | 17:21 |
rloo | jlvillal: yes | 17:21 |
jlvillal | Thanks | 17:22 |
mjturek | jlvillal: sounds fair to me. I'd be interested in that as well | 17:22 |
rloo | mjturek: who are the core reviewers? | 17:22 |
mjturek | as of now it's myself, krtaylor, and hamzy | 17:22 |
rloo | sounds good to me. mjturek, are you all at ibm? | 17:23 |
jroll | I expect ironic-core to have core reviewer rights on any ironic project, btw | 17:23 |
jroll | (which I may need to fix) | 17:23 |
mjturek | rloo: yes | 17:23 |
mjturek | we're open to others of course | 17:23 |
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krtaylor | but we'd like to get non-ibmers involved of course | 17:23 |
mjturek | +1 | 17:23 |
rloo | so i think this is fine. what happens in a year or so if only ibm is contributing? guess we can revisit it then if we feel like it | 17:23 |
jroll | yeah, I think that should be a case-by-case thing | 17:23 |
krtaylor | sounds reasonable | 17:24 |
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mjturek | agreed | 17:24 |
rloo | so lets vote cuz we so rarely do it. how many votes are needed anyway? | 17:25 |
* rloo looks for fun in the smallest things | 17:25 | |
jroll | we have 11 cores | 17:25 |
jroll | so 6 I guess? | 17:25 |
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jroll | #startvote should molteniron be in ironic governance? Yes, No | 17:26 |
openstack | Begin voting on: should molteniron be in ironic governance? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 17:26 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 17:26 |
jroll | #vote yes | 17:26 |
lucasagomes | #vote yes | 17:26 |
sambetts | #vote yes | 17:26 |
rloo | #vote yes | 17:26 |
JayF | #vote yes | 17:26 |
jlvillal | #vote yes | 17:26 |
stendulker | #vote yes | 17:26 |
TheJulia | #vote yes | 17:26 |
vdrok | #vote yes | 17:27 |
dtantsur | #vote yes | 17:27 |
jroll | perfect time for UPS to come \o/ | 17:27 |
* jroll waits another minute or two | 17:27 | |
TheJulia | jroll: that is the nature of the universe | 17:27 |
jroll | looks like a yes though | 17:27 |
mjturek | \o/ | 17:28 |
jroll | #endvote | 17:28 |
openstack | Voted on "should molteniron be in ironic governance?" Results are | 17:28 |
jlvillal | I think that is 9 cores. | 17:28 |
openstack | Yes (10): TheJulia, lucasagomes, dtantsur, rloo, jlvillal, JayF, stendulker, vdrok, jroll, sambetts | 17:28 |
lucasagomes | mjturek, krtaylor btw, some refactoring on the tests files name and directory structure would be appreciated (to match ironic and other projects): https://github.com/openstack/molteniron/tree/master/molteniron/tests | 17:28 |
krtaylor | lucasagomes, absolutely | 17:28 |
jroll | mjturek: would you like to propose the governance repo change or shall I? | 17:28 |
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rloo | congrats mjturek, krtaylor, hamzy ! | 17:28 |
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jroll | mjturek: I have some changes to do there anyway, so I don't mind | 17:29 |
mjturek | jroll: that would be appreciated. thanks! | 17:29 |
jroll | cool, no problem | 17:29 |
mjturek | thanks rloo! | 17:29 |
jroll | ok what's next | 17:29 |
jroll | #topic open discussion | 17:29 |
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jroll | karthiks had a thing, otherwise the floor is open | 17:29 |
karthiks | We have proposed a spec for retrieving NUMA node information during introspection | 17:29 |
karthiks | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396147/ | 17:30 |
karthiks | Please give us feedback. | 17:30 |
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xek | I also updated the spec on rolling upgrades | 17:31 |
xek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299245/ | 17:31 |
jroll | sweet, thanks xek | 17:31 |
jroll | I guess one more thing we should make sure we hit this week :) | 17:31 |
jlvillal | #info Rolling upgrade spec updated: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299245/ | 17:31 |
milan | karthiks, I'll take look as well | 17:31 |
karthiks | Thanks milan | 17:31 |
milan | karthiks, np | 17:32 |
rloo | jroll: i was going to suggest next week - to look at some specs. i saw some in the subteam reports that might need some attention. | 17:32 |
jroll | rloo: yeah, we should get all of the specs out of the way soon | 17:32 |
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jroll | before we bikeshed all the way into release day | 17:32 |
rloo | jroll: yup. i figured we already had a lot on our plate this week | 17:33 |
JayF | Would any folks be interested in a spec review jam? | 17:33 |
jroll | indeed, but if folks need things to fill their free time, specs are good | 17:33 |
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jroll | JayF: it could help, maybe we all try to look at some priority specs, and if there seems to be contentious things, line them up for a jam | 17:33 |
rloo | jroll: true -- i challenge anyone to have free time though, after going through this week's priorities! a beer on me! | 17:33 |
jroll | :P | 17:34 |
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jroll | anything else or do we want 25 minutes back? | 17:35 |
jroll | cool cool, thanks y'all :) | 17:35 |
jroll | #endmeeting | 17:35 |
sambetts | o/ | 17:35 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 17:35:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:35 |
vdrok | thanks | 17:35 |
TheJulia | o/ | 17:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-11-14-17.00.html | 17:35 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-11-14-17.00.txt | 17:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-11-14-17.00.log.html | 17:35 |
lucasagomes | thanks all | 17:35 |
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