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claudiub#startmeeting hyper-v13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 23 13:00:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)"13:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v'13:00
claudiubhellou13:01
sagar_nikamHi13:01
claudiubanyone else joining us today?13:01
sagar_nikamno... not today13:01
sagar_nikamwe can start13:01
claudiub#topic nova patches13:02
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claudiubsooo13:02
claudiubwe have a couple of things here13:02
claudiubfirst, the big one13:02
claudiub#link Hyper-V: use os-brick for volume related operations https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273504/13:02
claudiubmerged!13:02
claudiub:D13:02
claudiubwhich also means, FC support13:03
sagar_nikamnice13:03
sagar_nikamso this gives us FC support ?13:03
claudiubyep13:03
sagar_nikamcool13:03
sagar_nikamthanks for getting this done ... over a period of many releases13:03
claudiubother than that, we have this merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399001/13:03
claudiubno problem. :)13:04
claudiubit's been a long journey. :)13:04
sagar_nikamok this one is similar to the issue we have faced13:05
sagar_nikamand a similar fix was done in our downstream repo13:05
sagar_nikami guess this defect was raised by sonu ?13:05
claudiubregarding the Hyper-V OVS vif plug patch, we're close to having the ci for it up and running, just a couple of setup config options remained to configure13:05
claudiubsagar_nikam: what do you mean?13:05
sagar_nikamhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/399001/13:06
sagar_nikama fix for this issue13:06
sagar_nikamwe had seen earlier13:06
claudiubsagar_nikam: a, you mean the wait for neutron vif plug events13:06
sagar_nikamcorrect13:06
claudiubsagar_nikam: yeah, we've merged this in compute-hyperv in mitaka13:06
sagar_nikamwas this issue raised by sonu ?13:06
sagar_nikami think he had raised a similar issue13:07
sagar_nikamnot sure if this is the same one13:07
claudiubsagar_nikam: i don't really remember the exact issue, is there a link to it / bug report or something?13:07
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sagar_nikami will try to check and let you know... dont have it readily available now13:08
claudiubsure13:09
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claudiubother than that, we have the Hyper-V nested virtualization spec approved13:09
claudiub#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-nested-virtualization13:09
claudiuband some initial commits on os-win and nova13:10
sagar_nikamok13:10
claudiubany questions?13:10
sagar_nikamno13:11
sagar_nikamnot as of now13:11
claudiub#topic open discussion13:12
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claudiubsoo... just fyi, liberty is currently at end-of-life right now13:12
sagar_nikamok13:13
claudiubwhich means the final releases has been made for liberty13:13
sagar_nikamwe are currently on liberty13:13
sagar_nikamsoon moving to mitaka13:13
claudiubi see, i thought you already moved to mitaka13:13
claudiubalso, mitaka is in the 2nd support phase, which, according to the openstack stable policy, only critical / security bug fixes will be acceptable as backports13:14
claudiubalso, one piece of good news, which I forgot to mention during the nova patches topic13:16
claudiubthe feature freeze is going to be on jan 26th13:17
claudiubwhich means, we have time until then to merge all the remaining blueprints we have approved.13:17
sagar_nikamok... so that gives you more time for getting in some important patches... nice13:17
claudiubinstead of the 2nd ocata milestone, which would have been in the middle of next month13:18
claudiubyep, more than 1 extra month13:18
claudiubother than that, no other important updates from my side13:19
claudiubany news from your side?13:19
sagar_nikami spoke to sonu since we last met13:19
sagar_nikamhe has been busy all week13:19
claudiubi see13:19
claudiubi didn't see any email from him13:20
sagar_nikamhe mentioned he will mail yesterday night13:20
sagar_nikami think he did not get the time13:20
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sagar_nikamwill check with him again tomorrow13:20
claudiubi see. well, I'll wait for his email then. :)13:20
sagar_nikamhe had a question though... which i can ask13:20
claudiubsure13:20
sagar_nikamOVN supported ?13:20
sagar_nikamfor hyperv13:20
claudiubat the moment, we're in the process of adding support for it13:21
sagar_nikamok13:22
sagar_nikamwhich release will it be supported13:22
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claudiubthat I don't know yet. I will inform myself regarding this topic and get back to you next week. is that ok with you?13:23
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sagar_nikamyes .. sure13:24
claudiubanything else?13:24
sagar_nikamno nothing much13:24
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claudiubwell, I guess we can end the meeting here then. :)13:25
claudiubprobably the shortest meeting yet. :)13:26
sagar_nikamyes sure13:26
sagar_nikamthanks13:26
claudiubgreat, thanks for joining, see you next week!13:26
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claudiub#endmeeting13:26
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shinya_kwbtRoland said 'i won't be around next week' previous week.15:02
tomasztrebskihow is this even possible...:(15:02
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witekhas he nominated anyone to moderate?15:03
witek#startmeeting monasca15:03
tomasztrebskidoes it matter ? go ahead, but first maybe let's see who is here today15:03
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witek#topic Reviews15:05
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witek    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395798/ - MERGED15:05
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witekrbak: it's yours15:05
tomasztrebskiwell, I believe since that is marged we can move forward, wasn't merged when I reposted agenda15:06
rbakYou can skip it15:06
witekthanks15:06
witek    Agent requirement out-of-sync issue      https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397018/      https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315792/15:06
tomasztrebskithat's me15:06
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tomasztrebskiI noticed that agent won't start if following change is merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315792/15:07
tomasztrebskithough something was changed in agent's requirements 'cause my change is in merge conflict15:07
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tomasztrebskiI did not look at it to verify it change for client will break or not the agent now15:07
tomasztrebskibut the main reason to leave it here, was to discuss why agent is not hooked up in openstack requirements management process15:08
witekyes, I wanted to ask the same15:08
witekis anyone from HPE who could comment on that?15:09
tomasztrebskiI believe the reason is given here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356104/15:09
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tomasztrebskithere's general idea to remove oslo dependencies15:09
tomasztrebskifrom that point forward it would mean that controlling requirements from OS is no longer needed IMHO15:09
tomasztrebskithough I was hoping for Roland or Craig to elaborate on that15:10
witekshould we move that point to next week again?15:10
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tomasztrebskiI think so, yes15:11
witekok15:11
witek#topic Use oslo.db for sqla driver (yingjun)15:12
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witekI think the author is not there?15:12
tomasztrebskihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/395897/ - this is the change15:13
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tomasztrebskibut I think that again we should skip that for the next week, that's rather breaking change15:13
witekno updates on gerrit either15:13
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tomasztrebskiI wanted to discuss that here first before doing anything, personally I consider this good idea, but that's me15:14
witek#topic Stop-gap measure for Grafana datasource authentication15:15
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witekrbak: you've been discussing this last week in #openstack-monasca, right?15:15
rbakYeah15:16
rbakI think that was mostly a misunderstanding15:16
rbakThere is an up to date branch of grafana with the keystone auth that they had missed15:17
witekshould we mark the blueprint then somehow?15:17
rbakWas there a blueprint with that?15:17
witekhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/grafana-auth-workarounds15:17
rbakThanks, I'll put the comments from last weeks discussion in there15:18
witekthanks rbak15:18
witek#topic Postgres CLI foundation15:18
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tomasztrebskithe change for plugin works for mysql, so does not break anything15:19
tomasztrebskithe case would be to discuss what new gates should be added15:19
tomasztrebskibecause there are a lot of options15:19
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witekwe should configure experimental or no-vote jobs for this15:20
tomasztrebskifor instance monasca-api can work with plain mysql, mysql over SQLAlchemy or postgres with SQLAlchemy15:20
tomasztrebskibut by default monasca-api works with SQLAlchemy in devstack15:20
tomasztrebskiso I am just bit confused about what new NV gates should be posted for monasca-api15:20
witekI don't think we should use plain mysql15:20
tomasztrebskiso the question is why is it still there if apparently it is not used, or at least not tested by CI15:21
witekI think there was a plan to remove it from python implemenation15:23
witeklet's prepare the jobs definitions and discuss it on gerrit or next week latest15:23
tomasztrebskiok15:24
witek#topic Publish job for monasca-grafana-datasource15:24
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witekthe publish job for nodejs projects requires package.json file15:25
witekrbak: should we create one?15:26
witekhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107331.html15:26
rbakWe could, although I'm still unclear why we're publishing this15:26
rbakYou don't install this as a package15:26
witekI cannot create the tag in the repo without defining the 'publish' job for the project15:27
rbakOh, I didn't realize you couldn't even create a tag15:27
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rbakWell I suppose that makes sense then15:28
witekI did create, but the publish job failed15:28
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rbakIf we have the tag do we care if the publish job failed?15:28
witekand by applying for the tag I had to specify the job :)15:29
rbakThis is just a disconnect between how Grafana does things and how Openstack does things15:29
witekI will talk with release team and ask if another option would be possible here15:29
rbakI don't mind adding the package file and publishing, it just seems unnecessary15:30
witekok, I'll check with release team first15:30
rbaksounds good15:31
witekthanks15:31
witek#topic     https://storyboard.openstack.org/ - should we use that ?15:31
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tomasztrebskiI think we need to discuss that with Roland, so next week agenda15:31
witekwho has brought this up?15:32
tomasztrebskibut in general we could use that for some bigger stories that multiple vendors might work on15:32
tomasztrebskime15:32
witekwhat are the advantages?15:32
tomasztrebskias far as I understood the concept, we would create a story and tasks15:32
tomasztrebskifor, for instance, events (something from the summit)15:33
tomasztrebskinot only Fujitsu is interested15:33
tomasztrebskiso with multiple tasks there under the stories15:33
tomasztrebskiwe would be able to work on changes for multiple components in parallel15:33
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tomasztrebskior we could use that to discuss (as well) big features monasca would be extended with15:34
witekcould be good for coordinating the efforts15:34
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tomasztrebskiwe should bring this up again and see if monasca in general would be interested in using that15:35
tomasztrebskiI'd certainly would, but that might be tricky for other parties to move some planning here maybe15:35
witeklet's everyone build own opinion over the week and come back to this next time15:36
tomasztrebskithat's why discussion is needed and checking if we can use that15:36
tomasztrebskiok15:36
witeksome else, opinions?15:36
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kamil__okay with that15:37
witekhas anyone used it already or knows?15:37
witek#topic Run monasca gates on other devstack supported systems ?15:38
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tomasztrebskiagain me15:38
tomasztrebskidon't know if it makes sense, but devstack in general can be run on CentOS or Suse for instanc15:38
tomasztrebskiagent (officially) is supported there (on redhat) as far as I remember15:38
tomasztrebskii was just thinking about gates that would run on something else than Ubuntu Xenial15:39
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shinya_kwbtDevstack attempts to support Ubuntu 14.04/16.04, Fedora 23/24, CentOS/RHEL 7, as well as Debian and OpenSUSE.15:39
witekwhy would we want to add maintanace effort? what benefits do you see?15:40
tomasztrebskiat Fujitsu we run things on RedHat (CentOS), we could see if everything is ok with building up python package, installing it or even integration tests itself15:40
shinya_kwbtCompanese often use redhat. So I think it is good idea.15:41
tomasztrebskiis just thinking out loud, so it might be as well as just an idea that turned out to be wrong ;-)15:41
witekadding RedHat support would potentially double the number of gate jobs then15:43
tomasztrebskiit would, that's why I wanted to ask if that is something potentially ok with community15:43
tomasztrebskiok, sorry but I need to go now15:43
kamil__i am a little bit concerned about the additional effort15:43
tomasztrebskibye15:43
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witekok, bye Tomasz15:44
witekshinya_kwbt: what is Companese?15:44
witekoh, I see :)15:44
shinya_kwbtCompanies.15:44
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witekwe're done with agenda, many points postponed15:46
witekdo you have some other topics?15:46
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kamil__no thx15:46
witekok, I close the meeting then15:48
shinya_kwbtthanks bye15:48
witeksee you next week15:48
kamil__thx for moderating, bye15:48
witekthanks, bye15:48
witek#endmeeting15:48
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r1chardj0n3s#startmeeting horizon20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 23 20:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is r1chardj0n3s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'20:00
r1chardj0n3shullo o/20:00
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r1chardj0n3s(I suspect a lower turnout today due to folks in the US talking vacation time)20:00
lcastello/20:01
betherly_o/20:01
r1chardj0n3sif all else fails I can sit in the corner and play Pokemon20:01
tqtran[=_=]/20:01
betherly_:D20:01
betherly_I've got addicted to Ramsay dash20:01
* betherly_ feels ashamed20:01
jlopezguo/20:01
tqtranstill playing pokemon? its been months!20:02
r1chardj0n3soh, betherly_ :-(20:02
r1chardj0n3stqtran: game came out last Friday :-P20:02
betherly_r1chardj0n3s: I know, I know20:02
r1chardj0n3sOK let's move on20:02
r1chardj0n3s#topic Priority patches for review20:02
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r1chardj0n3s#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:r1chardj0n3s%20AND%20status:open20:02
r1chardj0n3sThe list hasn't changed much in the last week, which is sad, because most of the things on the list were intended for Ocata-1 :-(20:03
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tqtrani added 2 recent items20:03
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rdopierao/20:03
r1chardj0n3sI'll add more of the Ocata-2 priority items (mostly angularja panel rewrites) once we get those out of the way.20:03
r1chardj0n3stqtran: which 2 items?20:04
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tqtranauto xstatic discovery and zaqar websocket20:04
r1chardj0n3soh, the agenda items, yep I have them noted thanks!20:05
r1chardj0n3s#topic Reducing fragility of Horizon around release time?20:05
tqtranwas hoping more people are around....20:05
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tqtransince i wanted to get more opinions but sigh... its fine20:05
r1chardj0n3stqtran: yeah :-(20:05
r1chardj0n3sOcata-1 was a bit of a mess, we need to think about ways to tighten up the xstatic releases to try to avoid that again :-)20:06
r1chardj0n3sI don't want to have to apologise to dhellmann too many more times ;-)20:06
r1chardj0n3sI have some thoughts.20:06
r1chardj0n3sHow about no xstatic releases in release week? Ocata-1 was very short though :-(20:06
betherly_It was that20:07
r1chardj0n3sRegardless, I think better testing using the xstatic libraries before they’re released to expose issues would be good.20:07
tqtranIm fine with that, we dont always have to use the latest and greatest (unless theres a feature we need)20:07
r1chardj0n3sIt can be tricky to test them, so maybe we could use some docs to help that?20:07
tqtranif we had js integration tests, it would be easy to test20:08
r1chardj0n3stqtran: oh, did you just volunteer to fix our JS integration tests? :-)20:08
tqtranwe dont have any.....20:08
r1chardj0n3s(read: selenium)20:08
tqtranall it does is run jasmine and checks that the checksum all add up20:09
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r1chardj0n3sif you have thoughts about how to do non-selenium JS integration tests, I'd love to hear 'em!20:09
r1chardj0n3ssome things like the angular-bootstrap update definitely trigger test fails20:10
r1chardj0n3sbut a bunch of the xstatic libs aren't used by angular code20:10
r1chardj0n3sor, in the case of roboto, you can't test using JS tests20:10
r1chardj0n3s(I'm not sure our Selenium suite would've spotted that breakage either though)20:11
tqtranone step at a time. i think what you suggested is reasonable. no releases during release week20:11
r1chardj0n3skinda like Horizon already feature freezes one week before other projects to allow knock-on effects in plugins to be discovered20:12
r1chardj0n3s#agreed we should avoid releasing new xstatic library versions during release week20:13
r1chardj0n3smoving on20:13
r1chardj0n3s#topic ui-cookiecutter is now a project under Horizon20:13
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r1chardj0n3s\o/20:13
tqtranyay!20:13
r1chardj0n3s#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ui-cookiecutter20:13
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r1chardj0n3sIt has its own core team as well, but Horizon cores are able to approve patches also.20:13
r1chardj0n3sWe can continue the discussion about retiring startpanel/startdash when the interested folks want to :-)20:14
tqtrani thought its still going through gov? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398785/20:14
tqtranthe repo and team are created, got an email on that20:14
r1chardj0n3shah, I thought I'd seen that merge. oh, they'll catch up ;-)20:14
r1chardj0n3sgov always takes the longest20:15
r1chardj0n3s#topic Auto static pathing of xstatic packages20:15
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r1chardj0n3s#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195371/20:15
r1chardj0n3stqtran ?20:15
tqtranso rdopiera commented in there about security concerns20:15
tqtranbut we addressed at the midcycle and consensus was to allow it20:16
rdopierait's not just security20:16
tqtrani left an explanation, is there anything else i missed?20:16
rdopierawhat that patch does, basically, is "import everything that is installed in the system that matches the name"20:17
rdopierawe can't assume Horizon is the only installed application20:17
r1chardj0n3sthat's a very good point20:17
tqtranhm....20:18
tqtrani see what you're saying20:18
rdopierabasically, horizon can stop working after the user installs something completely unrelated20:18
rdopieraand the only fix would be either to uninstall it, or add to some kind of a blacklist20:18
rdopierabut I think it's much better to have a whitelist instead20:18
r1chardj0n3sI've been leaning towards the explicit listing instead of auto listing myself, and I think rdopiera is nicely articulating one of the things that's been troubling me about auto listing20:19
r1chardj0n3sas rdopiera mentions, we don't change that whitelist that often20:19
tqtranok, im fine with that. we dont update that list that often anyhow.20:19
rdopieraI would have nothing against a script that would check what we use and add that to requirements.txt, if we don't want to have it in two places20:19
r1chardj0n3sand now that we're cleaning up the xstatic package metadata the amount of code change per xstatic package addition is being reduced to a single line.20:19
tqtranwell actually, i just remembered the use case20:19
tqtranso kevin fox brought this up, he wanted to install an xstatic lib in his plugin20:20
tqtranbut theres no way to do that atm20:20
rdopierayes, we should have a way for the plugins to add to that list20:20
tqtranhe would have to package the lib into the plugin20:20
r1chardj0n3syes, the xstatic list should be exstensible20:21
tqtranso if we are whitelisting, that list needs to be made available to plugins for extending20:21
tqtranim thinking the enabled file is a good place20:21
tqtrananyway, next topic. we can talk about it at a separate time.20:23
r1chardj0n3s#topic Zaqar push-based communication via websocket (POC)20:24
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r1chardj0n3s#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246009/20:24
tqtranso are there plans to work on the instances panel in P?20:24
tqtrani believe we are going to tackle it yes?20:25
r1chardj0n3sthere's some instances work planned for O20:25
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r1chardj0n3shttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/261376/20:26
r1chardj0n3shttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/316244/20:26
tqtraner... are we going to realistic make it though?20:26
r1chardj0n3s*shrug*20:26
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tqtrananyway, the reason i ask is because fei long (the zaqar PTL) has the linked patch20:27
tqtranbut its all written in legacy20:27
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r1chardj0n3swow, that's an old patch :-(20:27
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tqtranso the question is (and maybe we should ask again when everyone is around) whether we let it in now, or rewrite it after angular instances panel land20:27
tqtransince i have no idea whos going to be taking on the instances panel20:28
tqtranits one of those cost vs benefits question (do it now with legacy, or do it right with angular)20:28
r1chardj0n3sIt clearly lacks a champion. I think it might be best to ask the broader group when folks are back next week.20:28
tqtranyeah20:28
r1chardj0n3sOK, one more week ain't gonna kill it.20:29
tqtranright, its been there for ages anyhow20:29
r1chardj0n3sNoting that O-2 is only a few weeks long itself because of this crazy cycle20:29
r1chardj0n3s#topic Open Discussion20:30
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tqtranim gonna mark myself as approver for the ng-instances bp if thats ok20:30
tqtranjust so i can track it a bit better20:30
r1chardj0n3stqtran: thanks!20:30
tqtranhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ng-instances20:30
r1chardj0n3sAny other topics folks would like to bring up?20:30
betherly_still working on pagination stuff - been a bit of a pig to get devstack and my env set up but nearly there now *facepalm*20:31
rdopieraI'm rolling the first patch in the series for the settings cleanup20:31
betherly_rdopiera: woot20:31
rdopierabut I'm not yet entirely sure about the road to take exactly further down that20:31
rdopieraI guess we will see when we get there20:31
r1chardj0n3sbetherly_: we have hidden knowledge in Horizon's docs to help devstack setup doc/source//ref/local_conf.rst20:32
rdopieraone idea I have so far is to first tackle the django settings -- as those are relatively fixed20:32
r1chardj0n3sone of these days I'll remember to get that better linked into the docs20:32
r1chardj0n3srdopiera: do you have a BP for that?20:33
betherly_r1chardj0n3s: ye I'm normally ok with devstack but the bringing down of the nova and novaclient patches caused some pain. I'll definitely take a look though that's awesome thanks!20:33
r1chardj0n3sbetherly_: ah, right!20:33
rdopierahttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ini-based-configuration20:33
rdopierait's still the same old bp20:33
rdopierabut I filled some steps20:33
r1chardj0n3srdopiera: right, so it'd be good to update from the summit discussion about defaults perhaps?20:33
betherly_r1chardj0n3s: when I say some pain, I under exaggerate ;)20:33
r1chardj0n3sbetherly_: I can only imagine20:34
rdopierar1chardj0n3s: not sure what you mean20:34
betherly_in other news, I've put my name in to be considered to come to the meetup so hopefully see you all there20:34
rdopierar1chardj0n3s: we agreed to have them in one place, pretty much like in the original bp20:34
r1chardj0n3srdopiera: we discussed tying the ini changes to robcresswell's (IIRC) thoughts about having default setting values be more sensibly organised20:35
r1chardj0n3sbetherly_ \o/20:35
rdopierar1chardj0n3s: I will review the notes and upgrade20:35
r1chardj0n3srdopiera: thanks!20:35
r1chardj0n3sright, so now onto the important Pokemon section of the meeting20:36
tqtranhaha20:36
tqtranis it the new game for handheld?20:37
r1chardj0n3stqtran: yes. omg. your gamer cred is dying here20:37
rdopierait's been around since game boy...20:37
r1chardj0n3sI think we might be done, thanks everyone for coming to this special Thanksgiving Vacation Time meeting! :-)20:37
r1chardj0n3s#endmeeting20:37
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rdopiera'night20:38
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betherly_night!20:38
betherly_thanks all :)20:38
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