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| Alagar | Iam trying to integrate openstack with xen | 03:13 |
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| Alagar | i have installed openstack using devstack script top of xen hypervisor, in this open stack as a virtual machine. | 03:13 |
| Alagar | when i create instance in openstack, the instance should create in xen hypervisor. but its not happening. | 03:13 |
| Alagar | Some one could you please guide me please | 03:13 |
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| tdurakov | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 14:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | hello everyone | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:00 |
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| markus_z | o/ | 14:01 |
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| tdurakov | hm | 14:01 |
| tdurakov | only me and markus_z O_o | 14:01 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:01 |
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| markus_z | whoop whoop, three's a party :) | 14:02 |
| davidgiluk | o/ | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | last week there were only 3:( | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | so now it's 4) | 14:02 |
| * kashyap waves | 14:02 | |
| tdurakov | ok, let's start | 14:02 |
| tdurakov | #topic ci | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ci (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:02 | |
| tdurakov | I think grenade and ceph bits are stuck on tempest part | 14:03 |
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| pkoniszewski | that's right | 14:03 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379638/ | 14:03 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389767/ | 14:03 |
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| tdurakov | tried to catch JordanP last week, no results | 14:04 |
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| tdurakov | send a message for #openstack-qa with review request | 14:05 |
| wznoinsk | late hi | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski: any updates on stats for post-copy testing? | 14:06 |
| * tdurakov trying to make predictable mem load on instance - work in progress | 14:06 | |
| pkoniszewski | none yet, i was burried in reviewing serial console and claims patches | 14:07 |
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| pkoniszewski | i'm still a bit | 14:07 |
| tdurakov | ok | 14:07 |
| tdurakov | let's go next topic | 14:07 |
| tdurakov | #topic bugs | 14:07 |
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| tdurakov | so, let's discuss that patches for serial-console and life migration | 14:07 |
| markus_z | I wanted to ask here for a general direction on that patches. | 14:08 |
| markus_z | For context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1455252 | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1455252 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "enabling serial console breaks live migration" [High,In progress] - Assigned to sahid (sahid-ferdjaoui) | 14:08 |
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| markus_z | I took over from sahid on that series and discussed it yesterday with dansmith. | 14:08 |
| markus_z | Let me get the reference to that, one moment | 14:09 |
| markus_z | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2016-11-21.log.html#t2016-11-21T15:10:15 | 14:09 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397276/ -is that fix? | 14:09 |
| markus_z | ^ is one of the preparation patches. The actual fix is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275801/ | 14:10 |
| markus_z | I'm rebasing that after this meeting. | 14:10 |
| pkoniszewski | we are almost there, I think | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | there is one change that I don't like in those patches | 14:11 |
| tdurakov | markus_z: I'm ok with None too | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | I mean this check move | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | this is completely unreleated to the fix | 14:11 |
| markus_z | OK, cool, that's the two major hurdles at the moment. | 14:11 |
| markus_z | I got it and change them accordingly. | 14:11 |
| pkoniszewski | i'm fine with everything else and I agree with Dan's point | 14:12 |
| markus_z | Anything else which would make the reviews easier? | 14:12 |
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| tdurakov | hold on | 14:13 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398389/2/nova/virt/libvirt/migration.py - won't this raise obj_attr unset? | 14:13 |
| pkoniszewski | can't find anything else | 14:14 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: according to Dan's comment I don't think we still need this change in current form | 14:14 |
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| markus_z | tdurakov: yes it would. I already reverted that but didn't yet push it. It will be in ps3. | 14:14 |
| pkoniszewski | I mean, we still need to have a guard there | 14:14 |
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| pkoniszewski | great! :) | 14:14 |
| tdurakov | ok) | 14:15 |
| markus_z | Please be aware that tempest isn't yet capable of testing the serial console with live-migration. That's done with: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346815/ | 14:15 |
| markus_z | To be precise, this one in Nova does the prep step: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347471/ | 14:16 |
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| markus_z | Just to be sure to give the full context here. | 14:16 |
| tdurakov | markus_z: I could update hook | 14:17 |
| markus_z | tdurakov: That would be nice, thanks :) | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | so, if it works, we could depends on that | 14:17 |
| tdurakov | again not sure tempest tests to be merged soon | 14:18 |
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| tdurakov | maybe it will be easier to create tempest plugin for live-migration | 14:18 |
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| tdurakov | anything else on that? | 14:19 |
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| markus_z | For testing, right now I use https://github.com/markuszoeller/openstack/tree/master/scripts/vagrant/live-migration-U1404-VB like the savage I am. :) | 14:19 |
| markus_z | No, that's all on that, thanks for your time. | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | :) | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | let's move on | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | #topic specs | 14:20 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: are you arounds? | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | s/around | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am | 14:20 |
| pkoniszewski | are we past spec freeze already? | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, it was last week, thursday | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | but there still specs unmerged | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | so | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347161/ | 14:21 |
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| tdurakov | I'm fine with that one, except I do not wont checks to be made in sync manner | 14:21 |
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| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: could you please take a look once again | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought the problem with that, was the issue around recreating the libvirt xml? | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | FWIW, it seems worth adding that quick RPC call to get capabilities. | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know we don't want RPC calls in the API, but at least it should be a quick thing to process | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | what's the difference with other l-m pre-checks here? | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | they had to call out to cinder and things, and it was two sets of RPC calls | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | why not to get this check too over migration status and instance-actions | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | they took time | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think its a fine line, but if we can fail early, every reliably, that doesn't seem so bad | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | its only needed if the VM is in Rescue state | 14:25 |
| tdurakov | btw, is there plan to store that data on the the api side in db? | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | unless we check if live-migrate is support at all, I guess, which I guess we should | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | probably never, that would be a child DB thing if it did happen | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | at least in my head | 14:26 |
| tdurakov | okay, still against that, but looks like I'm in minority on that question | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the key bit, for me, is the API experience | 14:27 |
| tdurakov | if we do rpc.call, let's do it direct to compute | 14:27 |
| tdurakov | without extra hop to conductor | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, thats what we are asking, direct RPC call to compute | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, the key bit is the API sematics | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | the implementation can change over time | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | ok, will re-review that soon | 14:28 |
| tdurakov | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 14:29 |
| tdurakov | let's go next | 14:29 |
| tdurakov | #topic Open discussion | 14:30 |
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| tdurakov | do we have anything? | 14:30 |
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| siva_krish | Hi All! I am trying to reproduce this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1605016. Would someone be able to help me with that ? | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605016 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Post copy live migration interrupts network connectivity" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sarafraj Singh (sarafraj-singh) | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | siva_krish: sure | 14:31 |
| pkoniszewski | siva_krish: the easiest way would be to have environment with DVR | 14:32 |
| pkoniszewski | as it appears only in certain neutron configurations | 14:32 |
| tdurakov | right | 14:32 |
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| siva_krish | I tried reproducing it with DVR setup only but I wasn't able to reproduce it | 14:32 |
| siva_krish | pkoniszewski: ^ | 14:33 |
| tdurakov | siva_krish: how are you detecting network failure? | 14:33 |
| kashyap | siva_krish: The reproducer of it is non-trivial | 14:34 |
| kashyap | As you might've noticed the description from Matt Booth, there | 14:34 |
| siva_krish | tdurakov: by pinging the VM from outside the network and also ran stress command on VM beofr migrating | 14:34 |
| tdurakov | siva_krish: hm, are you sure that migration is switched to post-copy? | 14:35 |
| siva_krish | tdurakov: I changed to configuration to use post copy in nova.conf. Is there any other way to check it ? | 14:36 |
| davidgiluk | siva_krish: Make sure the guest is running something heavy that wont migrate with precopy | 14:36 |
| pkoniszewski | did you just wait or did you use force-complete API? | 14:37 |
| davidgiluk | siva_krish: e.g. stressapptest hammering memory | 14:37 |
| siva_krish | pkoniszewski: I didn't use force-complete | 14:38 |
| tdurakov | siva_krish: that's the point | 14:38 |
| mdbooth | precopy is pretty much irrelevant here in practice. You should see packet loss/interruption to a degree in any case. | 14:38 |
| tdurakov | you need to raise stress level on vm | 14:38 |
| mdbooth | Raising stress level is only required to trigger post-copy in the first place | 14:38 |
| mdbooth | However, post-copy is subsequently fast enough that you're unlikely to notice the additional network switchover delay due to post-copy | 14:39 |
| siva_krish | mdbooth: tdurakov will trying doing that and let you know what happened | 14:39 |
| mdbooth | I found that the easiest way to test it was to introduce an artificial delay in the code. | 14:40 |
| siva_krish | davidgiluk: will try that out | 14:40 |
| mdbooth | Also, frig the code to switch to post-copy mode immediately | 14:40 |
| mdbooth | Then it doesn't require stress in the guest | 14:40 |
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| tdurakov | anything else? | 14:42 |
| pkoniszewski | hmm, i think it still does require | 14:42 |
| pkoniszewski | we don't know when LM will be switched to post copy, do we? | 14:43 |
| pkoniszewski | davidgiluk: can QEMU switch LM to post-copy in the middle of particular iteration? | 14:43 |
| pkoniszewski | or does it wait till the end of iteration and then starts post-copy in subsequent iteration? | 14:44 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: That...depends | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | pkoniszewski: Yep, because we do the switch | 14:44 |
| pkoniszewski | mdbooth: but it's still async... | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | pkoniszewski: Nope | 14:44 |
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| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: It only checks at certain points, if you've set a bandwidth limit I think it'll probably notice before the end of an iteration but no guarantee | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | Nova triggers it explicitly | 14:44 |
| mdbooth | And waits | 14:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sounds like load in the VM, and making the code trigger it straight away would help? | 14:45 |
| davidgiluk | yeh, guest load is dead easy anyway | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | mdbooth: nova scheduled it, no? | 14:45 |
| pkoniszewski | yeah, nova just schedules it | 14:45 |
| siva_krish | mdbooth: Sorry had a internet connection issue. | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | siva_krish: the resolution is the same, good load level:) | 14:46 |
| siva_krish | tdurakov: mdbooth will try your suggestions | 14:46 |
| pkoniszewski | and switch to post-copy explicitly | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | siva_krish: we have folks trying to simulate load in the ops/qa team right now, that can probably share that with you | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, and somehow trigger post-copy | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | API call, or via changing the code a bit | 14:47 |
| tdurakov | live-migration-force-complete | 14:47 |
| siva_krish | johnthetubaguy: that might be helpful as well | 14:47 |
| mdbooth | Nova triggers the switch to post-copy explicitly in the _live_migration_monitor loop | 14:47 |
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| mdbooth | The issue is that it doesn't do network switchover until that loop completes | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | LM is really a red herring here | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | The bug is the design of the loop | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | It's not worth spending a lot of time on a complicated setup to trigger a long post-copy | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | Because post-copy isn't what's causing the issue | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the fix can be done in parallel, I would say | 14:48 |
| mdbooth | It's what Nova does when post-copy happens which is the issue | 14:49 |
| mdbooth | (and it's not a big issue) | 14:49 |
| siva_krish | mdbooth: johnthetubaguy will start working on the fix. | 14:50 |
| siva_krish | ^ thanks for all of your info/suggestions on this bug | 14:54 |
| tdurakov | thanks everyone for joining | 14:55 |
| tdurakov | #endmeeting | 14:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 14:55:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-11-22-14.00.html | 14:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-11-22-14.00.txt | 14:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-11-22-14.00.log.html | 14:55 |
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| sambetts | Networking-cisco meeting time | 16:05 |
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| sambetts | #startmeeting networking_cisco | 16:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 22 16:06:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sambetts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_cisco)" | 16:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_cisco' | 16:06 |
| sambetts | As normal agenda is avaiable here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/networking-cisco]# | 16:07 |
| sambetts | As normal agenda is avaiable here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/networking-cisco | 16:07 |
| sambetts | #topic Roll call | 16:07 |
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| bradjones | o/ | 16:07 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:07 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 16:07 |
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| * tbachman is here now | 16:09 | |
| caboucha | caboucha o/ | 16:09 |
| sambetts | anyone else? bobmel? | 16:09 |
| bobmel | sambetts: Hi, here | 16:09 |
| sambetts | cool, moving on | 16:10 |
| sambetts | #topic Announcements | 16:10 |
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| sambetts | #info It appears that the RDO maintainers are trying to CI networking-cisco in master OpenStack | 16:11 |
| sambetts | anyone got anything else? | 16:11 |
| sambetts | ok moving on | 16:13 |
| sambetts | #topic Compatibility shim work | 16:13 |
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| sambetts | So more things are being moved from neutron to neutron_lib in the Ocata cycle, so we need to start handling more variables/constants etc in our backward compatibility layer | 16:14 |
| bobmel | sambetts: I have this patch: https://review.openstack.org/399552 | 16:15 |
| bobmel | where I'm trying to fix a bunch of those issues | 16:15 |
| sambetts | Yup :) thats definatly a great start | 16:15 |
| bobmel | But it's not so easy, one thing after the other breaking | 16:16 |
| sambetts | So as more things get added I wanted to use this topic to address some of the structural design of the compatiblity layer | 16:16 |
| bobmel | But I'm getting closer | 16:16 |
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| sambetts | right now we're using the backwards_compatiblity module to handle all of this, but I'd like to move away from having a single big bloated file | 16:17 |
| bradjones | +1 | 16:17 |
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| sambetts | I'd much rather we went down the path of having modules like networking-cisco.constants that handles constants and a networking-cisco.attributes for handling attributes | 16:18 |
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| sambetts | this makes it transparent from the drivers/plugins perspectives that there is a compatiblity layer in place | 16:19 |
| bradjones | I think that's fine, I think we may want to break stuff down to ml2 and non-ml2 too maybe? | 16:20 |
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| sambetts | the basic design I'm thinking is if we can build the compat stuff into our existing modules instead of being so explicit about it | 16:24 |
| bobmel | in the 399552 I bring all neutron.common.constants and neutron_lib.constants into backwards_compatibility.constants | 16:25 |
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| bobmel | But the same thing could be done so that the constants instead go into neutron_cisco.constants | 16:26 |
| sambetts | bobmel: yeah, I would prefer if that was simply networking-cisco.constants | 16:26 |
| sambetts | bobmel: and then I also want to try (over time of course) to move the networking-cisco specific constants dotted around networking-cisco into that module too | 16:28 |
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| caboucha | sambetts: Departing for other meeting | 16:29 |
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| sambetts | ok o/ caboucha | 16:29 |
| bobmel | Something that add complexity is that we're not having releases so in mitaka some of it is in neutron.common.constants and in newton some of that has moved to neutrn_lib | 16:29 |
| sambetts | right thats what we handle in our compatiblity layer | 16:30 |
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| bobmel | Yes, but implementing the compatibility layer itself is the crux. At least that is what my experience in 399552 :-) | 16:31 |
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| sambetts | right, but that pain is something we decided to absorb to because its outweighed by what we gain being compatible with multiple versions | 16:34 |
| sambetts | #topic Stable Ocata (master) compatibility | 16:36 |
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| sambetts | So how is that patch going bobmel? It looks quite complete, do you need any help other than reviews? | 16:37 |
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| bobmel | sambetts: No, don't think so. But reviews will be good. But it is not yet passing master and newton | 16:43 |
| bobmel | But fairly close | 16:43 |
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| sambetts | bobmel: awesome :) I'll try to review it again soon | 16:44 |
| sambetts | #topic CI Status | 16:45 |
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| sambetts | #info CI is still down because of lab issues, continuing to investigate | 16:46 |
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| sambetts | #topic Sub/Driver team feedback | 16:47 |
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| sambetts | Any updates from the driver teams? | 16:48 |
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| sambetts | bobmel: I believe the asr patches are a high priority now? | 16:49 |
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| sambetts | this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399228/ patch is the one I was wondering if we needed to push for reviews on | 16:57 |
| sambetts | is it ready to go? and which patches do we want to land before we cut 4.1.0? | 16:58 |
| bobmel | sambetts: sorry for the delay, yes I think ASR is the prio now, both for ACI and standalone (i.e., without ACI) | 16:59 |
| bobmel | sambetts: But might be good to check with Leon/Brian too | 17:00 |
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| tbachman | sambetts: I’ll have a look at that patch today | 17:00 |
| sambetts | ok thanks | 17:00 |
| sambetts | we're out of time | 17:01 |
| sambetts | thanks for coming guys | 17:01 |
| sambetts | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 22 17:01:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_cisco/2016/networking_cisco.2016-11-22-16.06.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_cisco/2016/networking_cisco.2016-11-22-16.06.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_cisco/2016/networking_cisco.2016-11-22-16.06.log.html | 17:01 |
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