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| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
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| yamamoto_ | hi | 05:30 |
| kazu | hi | 05:30 |
| vnyyad | hi | 05:30 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 05:30:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:30 |
| soichi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/taas | 05:31 |
| soichi | #topic L2 Extension Migration for TaaS : Status = in progress : Review = | 05:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L2 Extension Migration for TaaS : Status = in progress : Review = (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:31 | |
| soichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/401258 | 05:31 |
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| soichi | I'd like to skip this one because reedip is not available today | 05:34 |
| reedip | wooah wait wait | 05:34 |
| reedip | i am here | 05:34 |
| soichi | reedip: h | 05:34 |
| reedip | :) | 05:34 |
| soichi | :) | 05:35 |
| reedip | sorry, was fixing a bug in OSC | 05:35 |
| reedip | yeah, the ML2 is still under progress... needs a lot of rework | 05:35 |
| soichi | i see | 05:35 |
| soichi | #topic OSC Support for TaaS: Status = in progress: Review = | 05:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSC Support for TaaS: Status = in progress: Review = (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:35 | |
| reedip | I am trying to understand the ml2 plugin of FWaaS , SFC and QoS to implement it properly | 05:35 |
| soichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/398767 | 05:36 |
| reedip | OSC has almost been implemented. yamamoto_ wanted the bulk delete operation to be in place | 05:36 |
| reedip | so some test cases are still failing but I will put it up by today EOD | 05:36 |
| reedip | I also need to write the doc for OSC for TaaS, I will do that by today as well | 05:36 |
| reedip | WIP atleast for ^^ | 05:37 |
| yamamoto_ | i have a question. how long do we want to keep the old cli support? | 05:38 |
| yamamoto_ | reedip: do you know any policy about it? | 05:39 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ Umm, neutronclient support can be removed as we do not have an official release of TaaS yet | 05:39 |
| reedip | neutronclient will be deprecated | 05:40 |
| reedip | but only at the CLI level | 05:40 |
| reedip | not at the Library level | 05:40 |
| yamamoto_ | sure. but we probably want to create newton branch | 05:40 |
| reedip | oh yeah | 05:40 |
| yamamoto_ | is the osc stuff compatible with newton? | 05:40 |
| reedip | yamamoto_ : should be | 05:41 |
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| reedip | but as neutronclient's migration to OSC was not yet complete in newton, so I would like to avoid introducing OSC in newton | 05:41 |
| soichi | +1 | 05:41 |
| yamamoto_ | ok, good to know | 05:43 |
| soichi | #topic Horizon Support for TaaS: Status = in progress: Review = | 05:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon Support for TaaS: Status = in progress: Review = (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:44 | |
| soichi | https://review.openstack.org/396022 | 05:44 |
| kazu | yamamoto_: thank you for your comments, but i have a question. | 05:44 |
| kazu | what does your comment: "these "patches" horizon.networktopology.js etc?" means? | 05:44 |
| yamamoto_ | actually i don't remember what i meant :-) | 05:46 |
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| reedip | hehehe :) | 05:46 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess "does this modify the data structure defined there?" or something like that? | 05:46 |
| yamamoto_ | just a dumb question from a js beginner. :-) | 05:47 |
| kazu | i see. :) | 05:47 |
| yamamoto_ | how many of us are familiar with horizon and js? | 05:47 |
| soichi | i'm a beginner :) | 05:48 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess it's better to ask someone more familiar with horizon review. amotoki? | 05:48 |
| soichi | kaz: what do you say to add Motoki san as a reviwer? | 05:49 |
| reedip | amotoki san can be conferred for this. Let us add him as a reviewer to ask for his opinion. But he seems to be unwell | 05:49 |
| kazu | ok, i would like to add him as a reviewer. | 05:49 |
| reedip | so maybe we can add other horizon reviewers as well, or better send an email to Horizon team for their idea | 05:50 |
| kazu | i see. | 05:50 |
| soichi | #topic Migration to neutron-lib | 05:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Migration to neutron-lib (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:51 | |
| soichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tap-as-a-service+branch:master+topic:bp/neutron-lib | 05:51 |
| yamamoto_ | is it anything to discuss about the topic? or it's just a heads-up? | 05:57 |
| soichi | i guess latter | 05:58 |
| soichi | #topic do we want to create stable/newton branch? | 05:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "do we want to create stable/newton branch? (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:58 | |
| soichi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107892.html | 05:59 |
| yamamoto_ | i think at this point it's a good idea to create the branch. | 05:59 |
| vnyyad | +1 | 05:59 |
| yamamoto_ | and maybe a release. | 05:59 |
| soichi | +1 | 05:59 |
| kazu | +1 | 05:59 |
| yamamoto_ | i volunteer to work on it, except LP bits which i don't have permission. | 06:00 |
| vnyyad | LP is launchpad i ss | 06:02 |
| vnyyad | assume | 06:02 |
| yamamoto_ | yes | 06:02 |
| vnyyad | i did add anil into itt | 06:02 |
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| vnyyad | let me see if i can add you as well to it... | 06:02 |
| yamamoto_ | thank you | 06:03 |
| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 06:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: taas)" | 06:04 | |
| vnyyad | appologies for being absent for the last two meetings... the DST change means meeting starts at 6:30 here | 06:05 |
| vnyyad | will discuss with anil and start action points on us | 06:05 |
| vnyyad | soon | 06:05 |
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| soichi | okay, thank you | 06:06 |
| yamamoto_ | i always feel lucky that i live in a country w/o dst. | 06:07 |
| vnyyad | :) | 06:07 |
| kazu | +1 | 06:07 |
| soichi | Are you planning to attend PTG at Atlanta on Feb. 2017 ? | 06:08 |
| soichi | If we will have a TaaS meetup and discussions with neutron team, I and Kaz will try to attend. | 06:08 |
| yamamoto_ | i plan to attend ptg | 06:08 |
| soichi | okay, thank you | 06:10 |
| soichi | do you have any topics? | 06:10 |
| yamamoto_ | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_faq | 06:11 |
| yamamoto_ | i guess " Q: We are a small team. We don’t do mid-cycles currently. Now we’ll have to travel to four events per year instead of two?" | 06:12 |
| yamamoto_ | fits taas | 06:12 |
| yamamoto_ | i have a few too old patches | 06:13 |
| soichi | i agree | 06:13 |
| vnyyad | yes | 06:13 |
| yamamoto_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256210/ | 06:13 |
| yamamoto_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301841/ | 06:13 |
| soichi | yamamoto_: i already put +2 for 256210 and i will put +2 (again) for 301841 | 06:15 |
| yamamoto_ | thank you | 06:15 |
| yamamoto_ | no hurry. just a reminder. | 06:16 |
| yamamoto_ | no more topic from me | 06:17 |
| soichi | okay, i'd like to close today's meeting. | 06:19 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 06:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 06:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 06:19:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-30-05.30.html | 06:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-30-05.30.txt | 06:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-11-30-05.30.log.html | 06:19 |
| yamamoto_ | bye | 06:19 |
| kazu | bye | 06:19 |
| vnyyad | bye | 06:20 |
| soichi | thank you, bye | 06:20 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:01 |
| claudiub|2 | hello | 13:01 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 13:01:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:01 |
| claudiub | hello | 13:01 |
| claudiub | anyone else joining us? | 13:01 |
| sagar_nikam | no... we can start | 13:01 |
| claudiub | cool. | 13:02 |
| claudiub | #topic OVS | 13:02 |
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| claudiub | so, first things first | 13:03 |
| claudiub | #link OVS 2.6 announcement: https://twitter.com/cloudbaseit/status/803575092005347328 | 13:03 |
| claudiub | OVS 2.6 has been released | 13:03 |
| claudiub | just fyi | 13:03 |
| sagar_nikam | checking | 13:04 |
| claudiub | in case you want to try it out :) | 13:04 |
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| sagar_nikam | yes.. sure... need to discuss with kvinod and somu | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | sonu | 13:04 |
| claudiub | it should improve network throughput | 13:05 |
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| claudiub | so, it's worth checking out | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:05 |
| claudiub | secondly, I've been working on the nova hyper-v + ovs ci | 13:05 |
| claudiub | all of the configs are in place, the setup is fine | 13:06 |
| claudiub | there are a few things i'm testing out at the moment | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | will OVS2.6 work with mitaka ? | 13:06 |
| claudiub | i've noticed that neutron-ovs-agent freezes after ~10 hours or so | 13:07 |
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| claudiub | and I'll have to see why and how to address this | 13:07 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep. it is independent from openstack releases | 13:07 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:07 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: did you try neutron-ovs-agent? | 13:07 |
| claudiub | did you have any issues like this? | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | freezing after 10 hours ... at what scale ? high number of VMs and networks causes it ? | 13:08 |
| claudiub | not sure yet | 13:08 |
| claudiub | it's not an easy case to reproduce | 13:08 |
| claudiub | it is not deterministic | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | i think sonu's team was planning it since we wanted VxLAN support. I will mail them about the new release | 13:09 |
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| claudiub | but, from what i can see, the neutron-ovs-agent still sends its heartbeat and it processes rpc calls, but the main thread is frozen | 13:09 |
| claudiub | meaning that it won't bind ports anymore | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | OK | 13:10 |
| claudiub | so yeah. that's what i'm currently working on. | 13:11 |
| claudiub | any questions? | 13:11 |
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| sagar_nikam | no... i have mailed the networking team about it | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | will check with them tomorrow | 13:12 |
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| claudiub | cool | 13:13 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:13 |
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| claudiub | so, no new updates on any nova patches | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | have you considered supporting scvmm ? | 13:14 |
| claudiub | we're currently trying out the windows server 2016 networking, and planning to integrate it in networking-hyperv | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:14 |
| claudiub | it will be able to support vxlan network types | 13:14 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: we don't see any benefits from supporting scvmm. it's basically hyper-v + clustering | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:15 |
| claudiub | which we already have in openstack | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | you mean using the cluster driver ? | 13:15 |
| claudiub | yep | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:16 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: anyways. I still haven't received any email from sonu | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | the reason i asked... scvmm instances can be bursted to azure | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | was thinking if coudbase has thought of this usecase | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | *cloudbase | 13:17 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: not particularly familiar with hybrid cloud solutions, but from my point of view, it can be a tricky subject, as you don't have a lot of control on what vms are bursted to azure | 13:20 |
| claudiub | as it has its own internal ha | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | i was thinking of user triggered busting... not automated | 13:20 |
| claudiub | and it could break some affinity rules that nova has been configured with | 13:20 |
| sagar_nikam | the user provisions a VM using Openstack+SCVMM | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | and then if required.. using some other component... burst to azure | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | i mean some other python component | 13:21 |
| claudiub | you mean like coriolis? | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | outside of openstack | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | yes.. possible | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | any idea if pyMI supports SCVMM ... or should i say can MI be used for SCVMM ? | 13:22 |
| claudiub | well, in this case, i think coriolis might work better, as it also handles the tooling / bootstraping the instances when migration to a public / private cloud, or to a particular hypervisor | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | coriolis.. supports SCVMM to azure ? | 13:24 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: theoretically, yes, as long as there is a WMI interface for SCVMM objects and so on, like almost anything else on Windows, including Hyper-V objects, Cluster objects, system objects, etc. | 13:24 |
| claudiub | you can even manipulate excel tables through WMI objects | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:25 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: scvmm is basically hyper-v, and hyper-v instances can be migrated to azure | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | i was thinking... how do we create VMs in SCVMM programatically .. hopefully it is possible using MI | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | and hence pyMI | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | your opinion ? | 13:27 |
| claudiub | as a rule of thumb, if there's a powershell cmdlet for it, it can be done programatically | 13:28 |
| claudiub | and most probably with pymi as well. | 13:28 |
| sagar_nikam | yes ... but using python and trigger powershell cmdlet to create VMs may be the best solution | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | anyhow.... will read more | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks for this info | 13:29 |
| claudiub | no problem. but still, from my point of view, there aren't any advantages to adding support for scvmm in openstack. :) | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:30 |
| sagar_nikam | agree | 13:30 |
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| claudiub | any updates from your side? | 13:31 |
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| sagar_nikam | not as of now.. we are slowing trying to move to Mitaka | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | work is starting this week | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | but it may take time as we have some issues in getting mitaka in our downstream branch | 13:32 |
| sagar_nikam | as of now mostly planning stage | 13:33 |
| claudiub | are you doing some changes to the upsteam branches? | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | we had done a POC to check with Mitaka few months back | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | and it had worked | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | but that was just a POC... manually checking out mitaka | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | no changes to upstream branch... atleast on nova.. it is quite stable | 13:34 |
| claudiub | why not run some tempest tests, in order to make sure it all works fine? | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | we have not found any issues in nova... so no changes to be submitted upstream | 13:34 |
| claudiub | yeah, mitaka is currently in phase 2 support, which means that only high / critical importance bugfixes are backported | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | yes... we will run temptes | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | but first we need to get mitaka in our downstream bacnh | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | branch | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | some work to be done by ops team | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | we have requested... it will be done... but no time frame yet | 13:36 |
| claudiub | ok :) | 13:36 |
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| sagar_nikam | what we are starting is manually cloning nova and start tetsing | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | but that is more from developer perspective | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | not much for the product itself | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | so no scale tests... | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | which will only happen when we get the downstream repo sorted out | 13:37 |
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| sagar_nikam | we will also need os-win in our downstream repo | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | some process trying to get it | 13:37 |
| sagar_nikam | might take time | 13:37 |
| claudiub | well, it should work out of the box | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | correct.. that is what i am thinking | 13:38 |
| claudiub | we haven't done any backwards-incompatible to os-win, as far as I know | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | hence just my developer testing should be good enough | 13:38 |
| claudiub | plus, os-win has a mitaka branch as well | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | is what i feel | 13:38 |
| sagar_nikam | we will use os-win in mitaka | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | branch | 13:39 |
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| sagar_nikam | so we should be fine | 13:39 |
| claudiub | cool. well, i hope it goes as smoothly as possible. :) | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | yes ... even i hope so | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam | it is mostly the process which take time | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | code wise i think we will be fine | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | i have asked my team mate who will be working on hyperv to also try the cluster driver | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | when we tried it few months back | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | it all worked perfectly | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | manually cloning mitaka | 13:41 |
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| sagar_nikam | and applied your patch | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | i think the same will work now as well | 13:41 |
| claudiub | i think we merged the cluster driver in compute-hyperv in mitaka | 13:41 |
| claudiub | if i remember correctly | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:41 |
| claudiub | anyways, one more thing. i propose we don't have a hyper-v meeting next week, and have it next-next week instead. the thing is that I probably won't have many updates next week, as today and tomorrow are public holidays in romania, which means that we won't do a lot in these days. :) | 13:43 |
| claudiub | if there's something, you can email me | 13:43 |
| claudiub | is that ok with you? | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | sure no problem | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | same from my end as well | 13:43 |
| claudiub | cool :) | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | we will be busy trying to get unto mitaka | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | and it will take some time | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | so not a issue | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | i dont expect to hit too many issues | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | we can do it 2 weeks from now | 13:44 |
| claudiub | great, thanks. :) | 13:44 |
| claudiub | well then, that's it from me | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | we can close the meeting | 13:45 |
| claudiub | thanks for joining, see you in 2 weeks! | 13:45 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 13:45:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-30-13.01.html | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-30-13.01.txt | 13:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-11-30-13.01.log.html | 13:45 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 14:00:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:01 |
| slaweq | hello | 14:01 |
| ralonsoh | Hi | 14:01 |
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| slaweq | I hope there will be more people in few minutes :) | 14:01 |
| ralonsoh | no problem | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | BTW, the etherpad is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair? | 14:02 |
| slaweq | no, I was preparing it today's agenda on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qos-meeting | 14:03 |
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| ralonsoh | ok | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | one sec | 14:03 |
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| slaweq | ok | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | I updated the etherpad for today | 14:04 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | but, if there is no qorum, it's useless | 14:04 |
| slaweq | yep :/ | 14:04 |
| slaweq | btw ralonsoh: can You review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401458/ if You will have a while? | 14:05 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll review this today | 14:05 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:05 |
| slaweq | davidsha, njohnston, reedip: are You there? | 14:06 |
| davidsha | hi, just joined | 14:06 |
| slaweq | hello | 14:06 |
| davidsha | This is the LB-dscp is it? | 14:07 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 14:07 |
| slaweq | davidsha: yes | 14:07 |
| slaweq | please review if You will have time - You are dscp master :) | 14:07 |
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| davidsha | ack, I have very little knowledge of LB but I'll try to review it. | 14:08 |
| slaweq | ok, so maybe we will start and do it quick, what You think? | 14:08 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 14:08 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs-approved | 14:08 |
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| slaweq | there is no too many rfe-approved for QoS | 14:08 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:08 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: how it's going? | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | The first part, which is the BW manager, goes fine | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | one sec | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | BW manager, OVS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404343/ | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | BW manager, LB: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402121/ | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | BW manager, SR-IOV: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401254/ | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | BW manager, config options: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404647/ | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | to review... | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | The frist three I want to someone to see the architecture | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | That's all | 14:10 |
| davidsha | kk, I added myself to the reviews | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | Thanks! | 14:11 |
| slaweq | #action slawek review ralonsoh patches with BW manager | 14:11 |
| hichihara | ralonsoh: I'll review it | 14:11 |
| slaweq | ok, I will also have a look on it | 14:11 |
| ralonsoh | hichihara: thanks! | 14:11 |
| ralonsoh | next RFE, I think | 14:11 |
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| slaweq | other rfe-approved bugs are same as last time (extended validation and instance ingress) and nothing changes there on my side | 14:12 |
| slaweq | maybe ajo will have something to update on his patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351858/ | 14:12 |
| slaweq | but as I checked it today, there was no too many changes there | 14:12 |
| slaweq | so | 14:12 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 14:12 |
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| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644369 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644369 in neutron "Support for DSCP marking in Linuxbridge L2 agent" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:13 |
| slaweq | I made it last week, patch is ready for review (IMHO) so please take a look on it | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | Sur | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | Sure | 14:13 |
| slaweq | I made it with iptables rule to mark packets with dscp | 14:13 |
| slaweq | any questions to this one? | 14:13 |
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| slaweq | ok, so maybe next one | 14:14 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1634798 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634798 in neutron "[RFE] Qos DSCP to vlan priority mapping" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:14 |
| slaweq | this one is new IMO and is not assigned yet | 14:15 |
| ralonsoh | I need to take a look to this one | 14:15 |
| ralonsoh | I'll try to reply in launchpad | 14:15 |
| slaweq | ok, thx ralonsoh | 14:15 |
| davidsha | slaweq: There was a Vlan pcp rfe a while back but it went obsolete, would that be needed before this? | 14:16 |
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| slaweq | davidsha: I don't know | 14:16 |
| slaweq | it's something to check | 14:16 |
| slaweq | davidsha: do You have link to it? | 14:17 |
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| ralonsoh | davidsha is right | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392023/ | 14:17 |
| davidsha | vikram said he was going to wait for dscp to merge before he started work on it I think, give me one sec and I'll find it | 14:17 |
| davidsha | Oh, it's the bug linked in that spec: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505631 | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505631 in neutron "[RFE] QoS VLAN 802.1p Support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kannan Raman (kannanrc20) | 14:18 |
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| davidsha | thanks ralonsoh! | 14:19 |
| slaweq | but this one is postponed currently | 14:19 |
| ralonsoh | The spec is now approved | 14:19 |
| ralonsoh | No | 14:20 |
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| ralonsoh | not yet | 14:20 |
| slaweq | yes, but in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1634798 ajo asked what author means there so maybe we should wait for answear there? | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634798 in neutron "[RFE] Qos DSCP to vlan priority mapping" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:21 |
| ralonsoh | Yes, we should wait for the previous one | 14:21 |
| slaweq | ok, so going forward | 14:21 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Incomplete] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:21 |
| slaweq | this one is quite old | 14:21 |
| slaweq | so I don't think we should talk about it again now | 14:22 |
| slaweq | what You think? | 14:22 |
| ralonsoh | vikram or reedip should ask this question | 14:22 |
| slaweq | but it seems that they are not here | 14:23 |
| ralonsoh | next time then | 14:23 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:23 |
| slaweq | #topic Bugs | 14:23 |
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| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640757 | 14:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640757 in neutron "Parameter validation for string type parameters" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:24 |
| slaweq | I was checking it | 14:24 |
| slaweq | and I described everything in comments | 14:24 |
| slaweq | IMHO there is no bug there but maybe You have something to add | 14:24 |
| ralonsoh | I agree with your comments | 14:24 |
| ralonsoh | This could be also a problem in other objects | 14:25 |
| ralonsoh | But it's not | 14:25 |
| slaweq | so should we close this bug? | 14:25 |
| ralonsoh | I think so | 14:25 |
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| slaweq | ok, I will close it | 14:25 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq close https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640757 | 14:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640757 in neutron "Parameter validation for string type parameters" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:25 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640762 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640762 in neutron "when I update a Qos policy, value of shared can not be changed to false from true" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:26 |
| slaweq | I also checked it and IMHO there is also no issue there | 14:26 |
| slaweq | there is flag to set shared/not shared qos policy | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | With OSC? | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | I need to check that | 14:26 |
| slaweq | yep, I checked in OSC | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | I did this patch | 14:27 |
| slaweq | in neutron client I added such flag even | 14:27 |
| slaweq | in OSC it is also but name is littlebit different | 14:27 |
| slaweq | I pasted there my test with OSC | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | I see | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | I'll ask in the bug: | 14:28 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:28 |
| ralonsoh | which version of OSC | 14:28 |
| ralonsoh | and how to reproduce it | 14:28 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1616547 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1616547 in neutron "qos: rule api definition shouldn't include tenant_id" [Low,Incomplete] | 14:28 |
| slaweq | about this one I have note that ralonsoh wanted to check it last time | 14:29 |
| slaweq | do You have any info about it? | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | rule doesn't include tenant_id | 14:29 |
| davidsha | was this not changed from tenant_id to project_id? | 14:29 |
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| ralonsoh | Ok | 14:30 |
| ralonsoh | Yes, it has | 14:30 |
| ralonsoh | And it was changed to project_id | 14:30 |
| slaweq | I'm not sure but I think that there was something like that reported some time ago and it was not provided "accidentally" | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | "rule" is a neutronobject | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | so it has project_id | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | Should be in the api definition | 14:32 |
| slaweq | so ralonsoh can You update it in this bug report? | 14:32 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 14:32 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:32 |
| slaweq | next https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1616411 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1616411 in neutron "the result is not expected from the command "neutron qos-policy-show policy -F id"" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to QunyingRan (ran-qunying) | 14:32 |
| slaweq | I don't know if author of this one is here | 14:33 |
| davidsha | doesn't seem like it, not on #openstack-neutron either | 14:34 |
| slaweq | do You have anything to add for this one? | 14:34 |
| hichihara | It looks like a bug of neutronclient | 14:34 |
| slaweq | yep | 14:34 |
| slaweq | there is also one more for neutronclient: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1643849 | 14:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1643849 in python-neutronclient "The result of 'qos-minimum-bandwidth-rule-list' is wrong" [High,In progress] - Assigned to QunyingRan (ran-qunying) | 14:35 |
| slaweq | anything to add here? | 14:36 |
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| ralonsoh | It's under review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401824/ | 14:36 |
| ralonsoh | I'll take a look at this | 14:36 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:36 |
| * ajo appears ':) | 14:37 | |
| slaweq | shouldn't we check also OSC if it is valid for it also? | 14:37 |
| slaweq | hello ajo :) | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | OSC patch is still under review.... for 3 months | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | OSC is still not ready for this | 14:38 |
| slaweq | ok, so OSC is not impacted by this bug :) | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | no | 14:38 |
| slaweq | next one #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644097 | 14:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644097 in neutron "qos tempest tests should not try to use unsupported rule types" [Low,Triaged] | 14:38 |
| slaweq | I can look on this one later | 14:38 |
| ajo | oh, that makes sense, right. Otherwise plugins not suporting DSCP will go red. | 14:39 |
| slaweq | but in tempest there are only tests for LB and OVS agents, right? | 14:40 |
| slaweq | or SR-IOV also? | 14:40 |
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| slaweq | and what is tested in tempest in fact? are there tests which really check if packets are marked with DSCP? | 14:40 |
| ajo | hmmm | 14:41 |
| ajo | tempest should be plugin agnosti | 14:41 |
| ajo | agnostic | 14:41 |
| ajo | it's just a a tool to validate your cloud | 14:41 |
| ajo | (afaik) | 14:41 |
| hichihara | Right | 14:41 |
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| slaweq | yes, but if tests are only checking if rule is applied on api level then it will not be red for any plugin/agent | 14:41 |
| slaweq | at least as long as we don't do "improved validation" :) | 14:42 |
| ajo | hmm | 14:42 |
| ajo | for bandwidth I think there were some tests that checked bandwidth | 14:42 |
| slaweq | but I agree that it should be fixed | 14:42 |
| ajo | not sure for dscp | 14:42 |
| ajo | or may be it's because midonet's plugin does not allow creation of rules it doesn't support | 14:43 |
| slaweq | I made such test for dscp in fullstack tests but I don't know about tempest | 14:43 |
| slaweq | I will check it | 14:43 |
| ajo | in a multi-backend enviroment | 14:43 |
| ajo | all plugins would have to allow creation of any policy | 14:43 |
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| ajo | and then... (when we have the rule validation) fail if you try to use a rule your backend doesn't support | 14:43 |
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| slaweq | ok | 14:44 |
| ajo | I talked about that with yamamoto the other day | 14:44 |
| ajo | may be it just has to wait until we finish rule validation, and that's it | 14:44 |
| slaweq | You mean this change in tempest? | 14:45 |
| ajo | yes, | 14:45 |
| ajo | or we can do as yamamoto requested | 14:46 |
| ajo | and not try rules not reported as available | 14:46 |
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| slaweq | I will check how it looks in tests code | 14:46 |
| slaweq | and if I will find something I will describe in comments in this bug | 14:46 |
| ajo | ack, thanks slaweq := | 14:46 |
| ajo | :) | 14:46 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1507656 | 14:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1507656 in neutron "RPC callbacks push/pull mechanism should be remotable" [Wishlist,Opinion] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 14:47 |
| slaweq | I found also this one tagged as qos | 14:47 |
| slaweq | but I don't know if it is valid for now? | 14:47 |
| ajo | we don't need to look at opinion bugs | 14:48 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:48 |
| ajo | opinion means = we won't fix it, it's an oppinion of the reporter | 14:48 |
| slaweq | sorry, I didn't know | 14:48 |
| slaweq | still learning | 14:48 |
| ajo | or something like that | 14:48 |
| ajo | :D | 14:48 |
| ajo | so we can skip it :D | 14:48 |
| ajo | np, it's confusing :D | 14:48 |
| ajo | thanks for helping with this btw :D | 14:48 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639186 | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Luis Tomas Bolivar (ltomasbo) | 14:49 |
| slaweq | ajo: do You know how it's going? | 14:49 |
| ltomasbo | hi | 14:49 |
| slaweq | hello ltomasbo | 14:49 |
| ajo | ltomasbo can explain it better :D | 14:50 |
| ltomasbo | I just tried a simple patch to connect trunk port with br-int with veth devices | 14:50 |
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| ltomasbo | so that QoS bw can be used | 14:50 |
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| ltomasbo | and make it configurable (so that you can choose if those ovs bridges are to be link thorugh patch or veth links | 14:51 |
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| ltomasbo | however, that is not a good solution to merge upstream | 14:51 |
| ltomasbo | and seems the prefered solution is to be able to apply the bw throttling at ovs patch ports | 14:51 |
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| ltomasbo | but it will be nice to hear more opinions | 14:52 |
| ltomasbo | and other possible solutions | 14:52 |
| qwebirc15108 | good | 14:52 |
| ralonsoh | but it's not possible to set egress qos rules in OVS | 14:52 |
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| ltomasbo | although I agree with armax and think it should be done at OVS first | 14:52 |
| ralonsoh | (ingress for OVS) | 14:52 |
| ajo | yes, | 14:53 |
| ajo | if we want something that works for dpdk | 14:53 |
| ajo | and does not introduce more overhead | 14:53 |
| hichihara | +1 > OVS first | 14:53 |
| ajo | we may need this kind of feature in OVS | 14:53 |
| ajo | (via metering, etc..) | 14:53 |
| ajo | I'm not sure how interested they'd be in that, metering packets adds overhead | 14:53 |
| ajo | but may be it's not that much | 14:53 |
| ltomasbo | ralonsoh: ingress for OVS works right now, right? | 14:54 |
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| slaweq | will qos works fine on ovs with patch-ports? I'm asking because AFAIR for example for internal ports it was not working properly | 14:54 |
| ralonsoh | only for interfaces, not for ports | 14:54 |
| ltomasbo | the problem here is that instead of having a tap device connected to the br-int, for trunk ports you have a patch port that connects to another ovs-brdige, which connects to the VM | 14:55 |
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| davidsha | ralonsoh: is it not the other way around? | 14:55 |
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| ralonsoh | davidsha: what do you mean? I don't understand | 14:56 |
| ralonsoh | we can talk about this by mail | 14:56 |
| hichihara | Is it possible if use veth? | 14:56 |
| ralonsoh | it is | 14:56 |
| ltomasbo | yep, I tried that and it works | 14:56 |
| ralonsoh | but hurting a lot the performance | 14:56 |
| ajo | it works if the port has a linux kernel interface | 14:56 |
| ajo | a tap port, a veth, etc | 14:56 |
| ajo | but not a patch port | 14:56 |
| ajo | correct | 14:56 |
| hichihara | ralonsoh: yes | 14:56 |
| ajo | that's why what ltomasbo tested works, but it's not desired | 14:56 |
| davidsha | ralonsoh: qos tables are added on the port not interface. I think I may have misunderstood though. | 14:57 |
| * ajo wants https://www.opennetworking.org/images/stories/downloads/sdn-resources/onf-specifications/openflow/openflow-spec-v1.3.0.pdf. Section 5.7 :) | 14:57 | |
| ralonsoh | davidsha: yes, on the port. But qos max bw in Neutron is setting the interface policing | 14:57 |
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| davidsha | ralonsoh: yes, sorry! | 14:58 |
| ajo | right, | 14:58 |
| hichihara | Excuse me, I have one item before meeting end. | 14:58 |
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| slaweq | ok, give it hichihara :) | 14:59 |
| hichihara | I work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318531/ | 14:59 |
| hichihara | But the implementaion about tunneling(VXLAN) is a bit complicated. | 14:59 |
| hichihara | I think that it'll be independent of VLAN. | 14:59 |
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| hichihara | So I'll divide the patch into two patches(VLAN and Tunneling). | 14:59 |
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| hichihara | Maybe I'll update VLAN patch early next week. | 14:59 |
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| ralonsoh | ? | 14:59 |
| hichihara | That's all :) | 14:59 |
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| ralonsoh | ok.... | 14:59 |
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| hichihara | ralonsoh: Please check | 15:00 |
| slaweq | ok, I think we are out of time now | 15:00 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 15:00:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-11-30-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-11-30-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-11-30-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| davidsha | Thanks, cya! | 15:00 |
| hichihara | thanks | 15:00 |
| ajo | well, dividing is not that bad, easier to review | 15:00 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:00 |
| ajo | but it's generally a lot of work | 15:00 |
| ajo | thanks everybody | 15:00 |
| ajo | thanks slaweq | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 15:00:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| bklei | o/ | 15:01 |
| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday November 30, 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Leftovers from last meeting | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Agent requirement out-of-sync issue | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397018/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315792/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Use oslo.db for sqla driver (yingjun) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395897/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://storyboard.openstack.org/ - should we use that ? | 15:01 |
| qwebirc15108 | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 4.InfluxDB 0.11 and beyond | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Removing pure mysql code ? Is it needed or is it a dead-code ? | 15:01 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:01 |
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| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
| bklei | hello | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | i'm in germany at the open source monitoring conference OSMC 2016 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | giving a talk tomorrow on monasca | 15:02 |
| bklei | nice | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | but, i'm here for 30-45 minutes | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | looks like a descent agenda | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | we should get started | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Agent requirement out-of-sync issue | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agent requirement out-of-sync issue (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:03 | |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397018/ | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315792/ | 15:03 |
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| rhochmuth | looks like tomasz is not here today | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | and i'm guessing he added this to the agenda | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | does anyone else know what is going on | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | normally, i wait for the openstack bot to handle this sort of stuff | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | but tomasz updated the requirements | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | and the patch is in merge conflict | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | so, can't be merged | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | if no one says anything, we should move on | 15:06 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Use oslo.db for sqla driver (yingjun) | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Use oslo.db for sqla driver (yingjun) (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:06 | |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395897/ | 15:06 |
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| rhochmuth | possibly tomasz added this to the agenda too | 15:07 |
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| rhochmuth | i can't say i'm all to familiar with what the implications are | 15:07 |
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| bklei | me neither | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | #topic storyboard | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "storyboard (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:08 | |
| rhochmuth | https://storyboard.openstack.org/ - should we use that ? | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | so, there have been some discussion recently on switching to using storyboard | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | i haven't tried it out | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | but, in general, compare to using launchpad for blueprints it seems like a huge improvement | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think we should use for bug tracking based on some of the comments so far | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | so, i think we'll need to get back to this topic next week too | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | as whoever posted this to agenda is not here | 15:10 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic InfluxDB 0.11 and beyond | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "InfluxDB 0.11 and beyond (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:11 | |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396457/ | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | this is a brilliant pice of code and should be merged immediately IMHO! | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | from my viewpoint the code is done | 15:12 |
| bklei | works with old/new? | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | i've commented on some of the questions related to unit tests, which i don't feel are necessary or even desired in this case | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | yes, it works with old and new | 15:12 |
| bklei | sweet | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | that was a lot of work to make sure that was supported | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | more work than the actual code change that is | 15:13 |
| bklei | ship it! | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | i've also added comments around my strategy for error handling in the code | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | since i can't really tell waht is an error or expected, it is just json, and there isn't a well defined schema, i test and just continue on | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | if it doesn't match what I'm looking for in the result set from influxdb | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i didn't want to add lot's of messages to log files | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | anyway, if anyone feels differently, that would be a debate | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | not saying i got it 100% perfect | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | my biggests counter argument woudl be do we test responses from SQL? | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | we don't, other than if it was succesful | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | but, maybe i should add some log messages or just let an exception occur | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | you'll need to look at the code to no what i'm talking about | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Removing pure mysql code ? Is it needed or is it a dead-code ? | 15:17 |
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| rhochmuth | i think we shoudl work on removing all the pure mysql code | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | from the python implementation at least | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | i would rather not touch the java implementation at this point | 15:17 |
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| rhochmuth | we've got a lot of testing on the java mysql code and i don't want to introduce any bugs | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | sorry | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | but, the python implementation cold have the mysql specific code removed | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | at least from an hpe stand-point | 15:18 |
| rhochmuth | the notification engine is not that complicated, so risk of introducing a bug is low | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | however, the risk of a bug in the java api and threshold engine, is much higher | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic open floor | 15:19 |
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| rhochmuth | does anyone have any other topics to discuss? | 15:20 |
| bklei | i have one | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | too late | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | bye | 15:20 |
| bklei | :) | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | just kidding | 15:20 |
| bklei | are we going to meet at https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 15:20 |
| bklei | ? | 15:20 |
| bklei | i don't see monasca listed wed-thu | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | i wan't planning on it | 15:20 |
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| rhochmuth | i don't think we'll get enough of the community to attend | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | so hard to justify IMHO | 15:21 |
| bklei | since it's in the US, we at charter are likely to be able to swing it this time | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | do you have a different opinion | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | yeah, i know, but it would be just you guys and me there | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | we can to that in fort collins | 15:21 |
| bklei | sure -- that works too | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | i checked with others outside of the usa, and travel will be hard to justify | 15:22 |
| bklei | gotcha | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | i think we shoudl to a mid-cycle though | 15:22 |
| bklei | well -- if things change, we're likely to attend | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | but a remote one again | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | that is nice to know | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | on a side-note | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | one of the reasons i might want to attend is to drive inter-project initiatives | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | one that i think woudl work well is instrumenting openstack | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | i'e been looking at promethues a lot lately | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | michael hoppal has posted a plugin for the monasca agent that scrapes apps that have been instrumented with the promethieus client libraries, or scrapes promethues exporters | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | there is a library for python | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'm wondering if instrumenting openstack services with the "promethues" client library would be a good direction adn if openstack would be interesteed in that direction | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | the library is largely independent of promethues | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | it isn't like it is just a promethues thing | 15:25 |
| bklei | interesting | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | and as i say with our promethues client plugin, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401413/, everything would be applicable to monasca too | 15:25 |
| jobrs | to be on the safe side we also developed a plugin | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | yes, does your plugin scarpe promethus plugins, or does it scrape the promethues feeration api | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | i thought it was the federation api | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | but did i missunderstand | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | because i didn't want to overlap with your work | 15:26 |
| jobrs | that is right | 15:26 |
| jobrs | https://github.com/sapcc/monasca-agent/blob/master/monasca_agent/collector/checks_d/prometheus.py | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | ok, so we aren't over-lapping then | 15:27 |
| jobrs | actually we can handle both | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | ohhh, i missed that | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | sorry | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | i hope we are not stepping on your toes | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | that was my last intention | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | i pointed michael at your plugin | 15:27 |
| jobrs | no, not at all. let's just look whether we can join forces here | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | absolutely!!! | 15:28 |
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| jobrs | we have some nice mapping functionality for example | 15:28 |
| jobrs | let's have a separate call on that | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | sure, i'm out this week, but next week will work well | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | we'll need to get michael invovled too | 15:29 |
| jobrs | sure, you set up a meeting? or just send me this contact details so that I can follow up | 15:29 |
| jobrs | thanks | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | jobrs: what do you think about instrumenting openstack with the promethues python client library | 15:30 |
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| rhochmuth | jobrs: please setup meeting | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | i'm still traveling this week | 15:30 |
| jobrs | ok | 15:30 |
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| jobrs | well, I think statsd is good for push and prometheus might end-up to be the defect standard for pull metrics | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | michael dot jam dot hoppal at hpe dot com | 15:31 |
| jobrs | defacto, not defect :-) | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | yes, that is what i'm thinking too | 15:31 |
| jobrs | statsd is easier and less risky IMHO | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | but, i think it is a good opportunity for openstack instrumentation to leverage promethus momentum | 15:32 |
| jobrs | no open port, no need to buffer in the application, no need to thing about protecting access | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | or to build on that | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | and, i don't see any issues with monasca leveraging that work | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | i think gettign openstack to adopt promethus would be easier than getting them to adopt statsd or monasca-statsd | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | that was my thinking | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | or reasoning | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | and, in the container world, with openstack be run more and more in containers, it would be nice to support both promethues and monasca in one system | 15:33 |
| jobrs | it would be great to have some non-intrusive instrumentation tool that keeps instrumentation separate from the code | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | and leverage auto-dscovery | 15:33 |
| jobrs | agreed | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | like a layer/wrapper ontop of promethues or monasca-statsd | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | so, you could use either | 15:34 |
| jobrs | that would be perfect | 15:34 |
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| rhochmuth | oslo.instrumentation | 15:35 |
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| jobrs | I believe statsd+datadog extensions would fit both worlds | 15:35 |
| jobrs | there are several lean statsd-exporters for prometheus already | 15:36 |
| jobrs | (written in Go) | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | interesting | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | i missed that | 15:36 |
| jobrs | having something similar that is pushing directly to Monasca API would defer the decision | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | well, that would be the dvantage of a wrapper library | 15:37 |
| jobrs | to those assembling the containers / pods | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | monasca could be directly used | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | i'm going to have to leave in a minute | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | jobrs: i'll meet with you next week along with michael | 15:38 |
| jobrs | ok | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | if anyone else want to attend, please let jobrs know | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | this isn't a closed meeting | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: are you good? | 15:39 |
| bklei | yup -- thx roland | 15:39 |
| JamesGu_ | jobrs and Roland: I do like to attend | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i can end the meeting or let you guys continue on | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | JamesGu_: OK | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | please let jobrs know and send email | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:40 |
| JamesGu_ | sure thx | 15:40 |
| jobrs | to joachim.barheine@sap.com | 15:40 |
| JamesGu_ | thx jobrs | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i've got to run | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | sorry about leaving early | 15:41 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm going to close meeting in 30 seconds unless i hear otherwise | 15:42 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 15:42:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-30-15.00.html | 15:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-30-15.00.txt | 15:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-11-30-15.00.log.html | 15:42 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 16:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 16:00 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:00 |
| hogepodge | O/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | Good morning! hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving last week | 16:01 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:01 | |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.4 | 16:01 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker hogepodge | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:01 |
| eglute | please review agenda and add/update as needed | 16:02 |
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| eglute | #topic time change | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "time change (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:02 | |
| luzC | o/ | 16:03 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:03 |
| eglute | during the last meeting we agreed to discuss it again this week. I know for the people in west coast this is early, but markvoelker said he would not be able to make it at a later time | 16:03 |
| VW | o/ | 16:03 |
| eglute | any other comments regarding time? | 16:04 |
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| gema | o/ | 16:04 |
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| Rockyg | i'm ok with this time as I have interop challenge right before | 16:05 |
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| hogepodge | This time is fine for me | 16:05 |
| dmellado | o/ | 16:05 |
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| gema | this time works for me also | 16:05 |
| luzC | works for me too | 16:05 |
| eglute | ok, then we are going to leave it as is :) | 16:05 |
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| eglute | #agreed leave meeting time the same | 16:05 |
| eglute | #topic PTG | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:06 | |
| eglute | hogepodge were you able to find out about space for us at PTG? | 16:06 |
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| hogepodge | eglute: it's looking better | 16:07 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I'm still negotiating on it, and can check in to see where we are. | 16:07 |
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| eglute | that would be good, thank you hogepodge | 16:07 |
| eglute | any other comments/updates on PTG/midcycle? | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | Just a note on alternatives if the PTG falls through: | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker | We talked about having a midcycle separately if PTG can't give us space. I know some of you will be wanting to go to both... | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | I've been toldI may be able to get us space at the VMWare/Airwatch HQ in Atlanta that week if we can't get space at the PTG, so that may be one more option to keep in mind. | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | But hopefully we won't need it. =) | 16:09 |
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| dmellado | markvoelker: that'd be great in case PTG wouldn't allow it | 16:09 |
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| eglute | nice, thank you markvoelker | 16:09 |
| dmellado | to also avoid having a different travel afterwards to some mid cycle | 16:10 |
| dmellado | thanks ;) | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | Do note that's it not really close to the PTG hotel though...it'll be a bit of a drive to the north side of town. | 16:10 |
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| markvoelker | Anyway, I'll send out some info it comes to that and I can confirm space. | 16:10 |
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| Rockyg | any chance it's along mass transit? | 16:10 |
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| markvoelker | Rockyg: note sure, honestly. | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | *not | 16:10 |
| eglute | for those that joined late, here is ehterpad for today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.4 | 16:11 |
| eglute | anything else regarding PTG? | 16:11 |
| eglute | #topic Project Oaktree | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project Oaktree (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:12 | |
| eglute | DefCore's mascot is an oaktree ... will this project be confusing with the DefCore project? | 16:12 |
| Rockyg | I thin they have the first day for cross project? We should not meet on the cross proj day... | 16:12 |
| eglute | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107336.html | 16:12 |
| eglute | Rockyg, agree, not first day | 16:12 |
| catherineD | yea I think we should let them know early enough about our mascot as Oaktree | 16:13 |
| eglute | so i think mordred already knows about it | 16:13 |
| Rockyg | ++ we had it first ;-) | 16:13 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: true | 16:14 |
| Rockyg | mordred, you aware defcore mascot is an oaktree? | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | I'm inclined to ask Foundation Marketing to change our mascot if it's not too late | 16:14 |
| Rockyg | change to what, hogepodge ? | 16:15 |
| eglute | I agree, either mordred changes project name or we change mascot | 16:15 |
| hogepodge | The DefCore/Interop logo to something else. | 16:15 |
| hogepodge | Ah, to what, I don't know. | 16:15 |
| eglute | we had other suggestions when we did a quick pick last time, | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, I'm personally not terribly wed to the oaktree mascot and we haven't started using it yet, so I'd be willing to change it if that's easiest for all involved. | 16:16 |
| eglute | but we could also propose new ones here | 16:16 |
| eglute | rather, in etherpad | 16:17 |
| gema | what was the second option? | 16:17 |
| eglute | pelase add: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.4 | 16:17 |
| eglute | gema I would need to find it | 16:17 |
| eglute | http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_67553469c6bccc6a | 16:18 |
| eglute | here we go | 16:18 |
| gema | onion | 16:18 |
| eglute | everyone ok with onion? | 16:19 |
| eglute | or have better suggestions? | 16:19 |
| Rockyg | onion is ok by me | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | I'm checking with staff about the possibility too and will report back | 16:19 |
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| Rockyg | any other suggestions? We could let it sit for a week and then finalize | 16:19 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, let's let it sit while we check with the Foundation and see if it's even possible to make a change at this point | 16:20 |
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| eglute | #action hogepodge to check with staff about the possibility of changing the logo | 16:21 |
| eglute | #action mordred will consider changing the name of oaktree to appletree or something | 16:21 |
| eglute | #topic new alias for test | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new alias for test (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:22 | |
| eglute | everyone please review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401842/ | 16:22 |
| eglute | i think it looks straightforward to me | 16:23 |
| eglute | #action everyone review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401842/ | 16:23 |
| eglute | if there are no other comments, we can move to the guideline | 16:24 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.01 guideline | 16:24 |
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| eglute | is shamail here today? | 16:24 |
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| eglute | I dont have any updates on cinder from him, has anyone else had a chance to look at cinder? | 16:25 |
| eglute | ok, i will follow up with shamail after this meeting | 16:26 |
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| eglute | #action eglute to follow up with shamail regarding cinder | 16:26 |
| eglute | Next is swift. | 16:26 |
| eglute | can everyone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398428/? | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | eglute: I've been picking through all the new stuff proposed for Swift. Almost done reviewing, should have it up this evening | 16:26 |
| eglute | I need to fix whatever is making jenkins unhappy | 16:27 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker, appreciate it! | 16:27 |
| eglute | anyone else had a chance to take a look? | 16:28 |
| eglute | or have any comments? | 16:28 |
| markvoelker | One thing I was curious about: did you find external tools using objectstore-info-request and container-metadata? E.g. things like libcloud or whatnot? | 16:28 |
| eglute | markvoelker it has been a while! i will need to get back to you on that one | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | Ok, no worries...I'll look around too, just wondered if you had any leads as that tends to take a little digging. =) | 16:29 |
| eglute | i will try to remember what i found. i will get back to you! | 16:30 |
| eglute | and next time i will document it too | 16:30 |
| eglute | anything else on swift? | 16:31 |
| eglute | ok, next is nova | 16:32 |
| eglute | shamail needs to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385781/ | 16:32 |
| eglute | if you have not reviewed it, please do so | 16:32 |
| eglute | #action eglute to follow up with shamail on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385781/ | 16:32 |
| eglute | anything else on this? | 16:33 |
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| eglute | Keystone: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398737/2 | 16:33 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker for submitting the patch | 16:33 |
| eglute | looks good to me! | 16:34 |
| eglute | everyone else please review it as well | 16:34 |
| eglute | markvoelker added one new capability as advisory | 16:35 |
| eglute | should be pretty straightforward. | 16:35 |
| eglute | glad to see keystone capability list grow | 16:35 |
| eglute | if no comments on Keystone, glance is next | 16:35 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398706/ | 16:36 |
| eglute | markvoelker thanks for submitting | 16:36 |
| eglute | was that all for glance? | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | All I have, yes. | 16:36 |
| eglute | great, thank you! | 16:36 |
| eglute | everyone, please review, should be an easy one! | 16:37 |
| eglute | #topic name change | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "name change (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:37 | |
| eglute | we are still working on the name change! any updates on things that were in progress? | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | I have a draft blog post half-done but left off to work on reviewing swift stuff | 16:38 |
| markvoelker | (and since I was going to put our logo in there I guess I need to modify it a bit until the oaktree thing gets sorted =p) | 16:38 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:38 |
| eglute | any other updates? i think shamail was working on moving wikis | 16:39 |
| eglute | reminder: please join #openstack-interop if you haven't yet | 16:39 |
| luzC | I started with Refstack but was wondering if we are changing "Defcore guideline" to "Interop working group guideline" | 16:40 |
| luzC | ? | 16:40 |
| markvoelker | luzC: I'd use "interoperability guideline". | 16:40 |
| catherineD | markvoelker: as we discuss in the RefStack meeting | 16:41 |
| eglute | markvoelker that does sound good | 16:41 |
| catherineD | we believe that "Interoperability Guideline" means something much bigger scope | 16:41 |
| eglute | catherineD can you explain | 16:42 |
| catherineD | for example: whatever out come from Interop-Challenge or "OakTree" project could be "interoperability Guideline" so are the customized guidelines | 16:42 |
| hogepodge | This week I can finalize mailing list | 16:42 |
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| catherineD | DefCore guideline is a very specific name pointing that those are the guidelines from this group .. so we need something at that level with the new name | 16:43 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: I think they've been referred to in presentations and such as interoperability guidelines for some time, but I'm ok with either. =) | 16:44 |
| eglute | i agree with markvoelker | 16:45 |
| eglute | catherineD luzC you are talking about renaming this page, correct? https://refstack.openstack.org/#/guidelines | 16:46 |
| catherineD | eglute: yes | 16:46 |
| catherineD | that is why it better be specific as of whoes guidelines are those .. | 16:47 |
| eglute | perhaps whatever teh new name is, where the heading "DefCore Guidelines" could also link to teh defcore repo? (which also needs to be renamed) | 16:47 |
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| eglute | "OpenStack Interop Guidelines" | 16:47 |
| eglute | we define the official interop guidelines for openstack | 16:48 |
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| eglute | linking to them might help with the confusion | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | and/or using a special logo/color/some other UX hint | 16:49 |
| Rockyg | Maybe adding "official" would help? | 16:49 |
| Rockyg | or sanctioned oe approved? | 16:50 |
| eglute | i like all those suggestions. what does everyone think? | 16:50 |
| markvoelker | Maybe it's best to strike up an ML discussion on this? | 16:51 |
| eglute | markvoelker +1 | 16:51 |
| luzC | markvolker ++ | 16:51 |
| eglute | luzC/ catherineD can you start a mailing list discussion? | 16:52 |
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| luzC | yes NP | 16:52 |
| eglute | thank you luzC! | 16:52 |
| eglute | naming is hard! | 16:52 |
| eglute | anything else on rename? | 16:53 |
| eglute | thanks hogepodge for working on the mailing list rename | 16:53 |
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| eglute | #topic how projects can become part of Guidelines | 16:54 |
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| eglute | I know markvoelker has a lot of things he is working on! this one also his | 16:54 |
| eglute | markvoelker can i help with this one? | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | Sure. I've sort of let this one sit since there's other stuff on the plate. | 16:56 |
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| eglute | cool. do you have something started, or not yet? | 16:57 |
| markvoelker | Mostly bullets, but nothing in paragraph form I think. I'll clean it up and send it your way. | 16:57 |
| eglute | sounds good, thank you markvoelker! | 16:57 |
| eglute | last couple minutes remaining, any last comments? | 16:57 |
| gema | I have a question from the interop challenge meeting. We are being evicted from the channel where we currently hold those meetings and are considering options. Would we be able to use the #openstack-interop channel for the interop challenge meetings on Wednesdays at 3pm UTC? | 16:57 |
| eglute | gema i think you could, but please check that the bot there works | 16:58 |
| eglute | meeting bot that is | 16:58 |
| gema | eglute: ack, will do | 16:58 |
| Rockyg | thanks, gema! | 16:58 |
| gema | thank you guys :D | 16:58 |
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| eglute | i am not sure what needs to happen for a channel to have meeting bot | 16:58 |
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| eglute | it might already be tehre | 16:59 |
| gema | I think it is there already, but will check | 16:59 |
| Rockyg | infra does magic | 16:59 |
| eglute | heh, nice | 16:59 |
| Rockyg | easiest way to check is to type startmeeting and see what happens | 16:59 |
| markvoelker | Note that infra has been resistant to having meetings be in non-meeting channels in the past... | 16:59 |
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| gema | markvoelker: will check with them | 16:59 |
| eglute | we are out of time. thanks everyone! i will be around in the interop channel if anyone wants to talk! | 17:00 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 17:00:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-30-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-30-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-11-30-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| Rockyg | Yup. I just checked with Thierry on open meeting rooms. We've can get 1400 but not 1500 | 17:00 |
| catherineD | bye | 17:00 |
| Rockyg | cya | 17:00 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 20:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is r1chardj0n3s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| betherly | o/ hallo | 20:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | o/ | 20:00 |
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| robcresswell | o/ | 20:00 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | UK represent! | 20:00 |
| tqtran | [=_=]/ | 20:00 |
| betherly | wooooot | 20:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | okie dokie, on with the thing | 20:01 |
| rhagarty_ | o/ | 20:01 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Priority patches for review | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority patches for review (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:01 | |
| clu_ | o/ | 20:01 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:r1chardj0n3s%20AND%20status:open is the list of patches we'd like to see reviewed as highest priority | 20:01 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ocata-priorities has a bunch of patches under Ocata-2 that we'll start moving on to | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I’ve tried to capture all of the in-play angularjs panel work, but if I missed any please note them. | 20:02 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | I think since there’s so many, I’d like to know whether anyone has any priorities in that lot. Yes, high priority priority patches | 20:03 |
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| david-lyle | o/ | 20:04 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | OK, I'll just mark the ones that have active developers working on them then ;-) | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Badges | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Badges (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:06 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402556/ if anyone cares enough, please fix this thing | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (we do love a bit of make-work here in OpenStack) | 20:06 |
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| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: I thought there was a patch fixing that already | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | -.- | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Fixing openstack one pointless patch at a time | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404382/ maybe | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | david-lyle: right. my care level is super low, given other priorities | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok, moving on | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Zaqar push-based communication via websocket (POC) | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zaqar push-based communication via websocket (POC) (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:09 | |
| tqtran | so i brought this up last week, but wanted to wait until this week for more people to get input | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tqtran? | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (ah, sorry) | 20:10 |
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| tqtran | the zaqar ptl uploaded a POC patch showing how we can use websocket instead of polling | 20:10 |
| tqtran | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246009/ | 20:10 |
| tqtran | but the problem is that its written using legacy js | 20:11 |
| tqtran | we have plans on implementing instances panel, but i doubt that will land anytime soon | 20:11 |
| tqtran | so the question is: do we want the POC using legacy now, or wait until the new instances panel kick in | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | it'd be best to do it on Images right? | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | That already misses the polling anyway | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | why would we poll images? | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | status | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | are you expecting them to change? | 20:12 |
| tqtran | i believe we are polling images in the ngimages panel | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | When creating new ones? Yeah I assume so | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | I dont think angular tables poll do they? | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that patch needs a lot of work, also, there's a lot of hard-coding of things that should be configurable or discoverable in there | 20:13 |
| tqtran | they are polling sadly, theres no push-based mechanism on the backend | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | I thought they did nothing right now | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | the regular one does, bug I thought ng didnt | 20:13 |
| tqtran | pretty sure its polling, i remember reviewing a patch on it | 20:14 |
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| tqtran | anyway, maybe we can get the POC websocket thing to work on images first? | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | was are polling :( | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | at least the django was | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | s/was/we/ | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | anyway, yes, a websocket angular POC would make more sense | 20:15 |
| * david-lyle hangs head | 20:15 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | +1 to getting it working for images | 20:15 |
| tqtran | ok, i'll tell them that then | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | websocket polling came up at the summit and searchlight was mentioned, yeah? | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | I feel like we should have two dashboards | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | or am I misremembering things | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | one with only core services and plugin support | 20:16 |
| david-lyle | and one with support for several dependent projects that would make life better | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | but I digress | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | crazy | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | moving on | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Using execfile also for local_settings.py, not just loca_settings.d | 20:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Using execfile also for local_settings.py, not just loca_settings.d (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:18 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | (no name against this, assuming it was radomir?) | 20:18 |
| david-lyle | I mean currently we're polling on the server side regardless | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | yeah thats rdopiera | 20:18 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | I assume he's agitating for not using import to get the contents of local_settings.py; I'm not sure exactly why, but I'm generally in favour of using execfile over import unless there's a good reason to use the latter. | 20:19 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | .. but I thought he wanted to get rid of Python-based settings completely | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | these are for plugins and themes, that would be even further down the road | 20:21 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | OK, in the absence of Radomir, I guess we'll have to table that discussion until next meeting. | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Open Discussion | 20:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:23 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | anyone got anything they'd like to bring up? say, the size of the ocata-2 priority list? :-) | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | Nothing in particular :) | 20:24 |
| ediardo | me | 20:25 |
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| ediardo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388200/ | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I would like to point out that the run_tests.sh removal effort by robcresswell is moving along really well, and if you've not stopped using it already you should do so :-) | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the "final" tox fixup patch will merge imminently | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391506/ | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | give it a run if you haven't, please | 20:25 |
| ediardo | I nevermind | 20:25 |
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| ediardo | I read something there | 20:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | we've also been trying to enforce upper-constraints in all the stable branches, so we'll probably release xstatic-angular-bootstrap 2.2.0.0 very soon, which breaks a bunch of stuff | 20:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ediardo: yeah, the coverage fairy decided to pay a visit :-( | 20:27 |
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| ediardo | yes, I'll work on it | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | did you find the coverage reports? | 20:28 |
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| ediardo | I just read Thai's comment | 20:28 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yup | 20:28 |
| ediardo | Yes, I found 'em | 20:28 |
| ediardo | Thanks | 20:29 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | ok folks, I reckon we're done then, thanks for coming! | 20:29 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #endmeeting | 20:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 20:29:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-30-20.00.html | 20:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-30-20.00.txt | 20:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-11-30-20.00.log.html | 20:29 |
| betherly | Cheers all! | 20:29 |
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| betherly | Have a good day/evening | 20:30 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 30 21:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| dansmith | *ahem* | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | well... | 21:01 |
| dansmith | was really hoping for alaski to show up | 21:01 |
| dansmith | because I have questions | 21:01 |
| dansmith | concerns | 21:01 |
| dtp | o/ | 21:01 |
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| dtp | i made it | 21:01 |
| dansmith | congrats :) | 21:01 |
| dtp | thank you | 21:02 |
| dansmith | #topic cells testing / bugs | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cells testing / bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:02 | |
| dansmith | anything on testing/bugs this week? | 21:02 |
| mriedem | the only bug we had was that pg one | 21:02 |
| mriedem | only took 5 days to fix it | 21:02 |
| dansmith | true, I guess that was because of cellsv2 | 21:02 |
| mriedem | otherwise nada | 21:03 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open reviews (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:03 | |
| dansmith | so, I refreshed my set again just a bit ago: | 21:03 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/cells-scheduling-interaction | 21:03 |
| dansmith | on top of melwitt's cell database fixture | 21:03 |
| dansmith | the last patch is mostly good for unit tests at this point, | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396417/ got sorted out? | 21:03 |
| dansmith | except for one ugly gotcha around cellsv1 | 21:03 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I need a fix to oslo.messaging for that, which I have proposed | 21:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but their gate is fubar right now | 21:04 |
| mriedem | do they know what's up? | 21:04 |
| mriedem | like, are they fixing their stuff? | 21:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: so I have a hack in there to make it work, but I don't expect us to merge it | 21:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: it's zmq.. someone lobbed a patch at it claiming to fix it, but it didn't | 21:04 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but yeah, I've been in there poking people about it | 21:04 |
| dansmith | my fix has been +W for a few days but can't make it through gate | 21:04 |
| mriedem | are you going to wip https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396417/ then? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | we could also do the old depends-on dance | 21:05 |
| dansmith | if I rechecked it harder I could maybe get it in | 21:05 |
| mriedem | but will need to depend on a release and g-r bump | 21:05 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:05 |
| dansmith | mriedem: this is the hack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396417/15/nova/rpc.py@77 | 21:05 |
| mriedem | yeah i saw it | 21:05 |
| dansmith | yeah I guess I can -W it | 21:06 |
| mriedem | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403924/ is what we want | 21:06 |
| dansmith | yar | 21:06 |
| mriedem | fun http://logs.openstack.org/24/403924/1/check/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-py27-zeromq/35e71b1/console.html#_2016-11-29_19_18_53_458260 | 21:06 |
| dansmith | anyway, so yeah that is blocked at the moment | 21:07 |
| mriedem | if it's not a regression and no one is fixing it we could skip the test... | 21:07 |
| mriedem | but maybe that's extreme for right now | 21:07 |
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| dansmith | *shrug* | 21:07 |
| mriedem | i guess we can light a fire when we've reviewed the entire series | 21:07 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:07 |
| dansmith | the bottom couple of patches there can merge I think | 21:07 |
| dansmith | at least | 21:07 |
| dansmith | anyway, there is a bigger problem at the top of that set | 21:08 |
| dansmith | and that is around cellsv1 | 21:08 |
| mriedem | which one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396775/ ? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | no that one is out for the moment | 21:08 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396417 | 21:08 |
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| dansmith | so the deal there is something I realized yesterday while trying to squash the last couple of unit test failures | 21:09 |
| dansmith | in cellsv1, we do the compute/api bit, create in the api, then call down to the cell, which replays the compute/api part in the cell, | 21:09 |
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| dansmith | before finally casting to conductor to get things going | 21:09 |
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| dansmith | if we finish this move of the create from api to conductor, | 21:10 |
| dansmith | then we're not going to create in the api cell, and we're going to call to conductor in the api cell, | 21:10 |
| dansmith | which is then going to try to talk directly to the compute instead of calling through the cells rpc to get down there | 21:11 |
| dansmith | which is ... scary | 21:11 |
| dansmith | because (a) I don't want to add any more cells calls, and certainly not for things that need to call to conductor | 21:11 |
| dansmith | so I'm not really sure what to do | 21:11 |
| dansmith | which is what I was hoping to poke alaski about today | 21:11 |
| dansmith | does any of that ranting make sense? | 21:11 |
| mriedem | and we don't want a bunch of if CONF.cells.enabled checks all over this flow | 21:12 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:12 |
| dansmith | and we don't want to have to keep two instance create paths either | 21:12 |
| mriedem | i won't profess to understand the entire create flow through the api for cells v1 | 21:12 |
| dansmith | well, it's complicated | 21:12 |
| mriedem | so the parent api cell creates the instance in the parent api cell db? | 21:12 |
| dansmith | but we do it twice, once in the api cell and once in the child cell | 21:12 |
| mriedem | oh right the instance is in both places | 21:13 |
| mriedem | hence the up calls to sync | 21:13 |
| dansmith | and that replication happens at the compute/api layer, | 21:13 |
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| dansmith | by intercepting the compute/api call, doing some of it, and then re-playing it in the child cell | 21:13 |
| mriedem | and when status changes in the child cell while building the instance, we send that up to the parent cell to update the instance there too right? | 21:13 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | and cellsv1 doesn't know jack about build requests... | 21:14 |
| dansmith | nor does it know about conductor | 21:14 |
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| dansmith | it's purely replication at the compute/api layer | 21:14 |
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| dansmith | we also *have* to create in the api cell before we create in the child because otherwise the api stops working, | 21:14 |
| dansmith | so we can't even try to patch it up by making the first sync create the instance back at the top again | 21:15 |
| dansmith | so yeah | 21:16 |
| dansmith | pretty much the suck. | 21:16 |
| melwitt | I was thinking there's already "if cell_type == 'api'" in the compute/api and maybe we could just do the old way in there ... | 21:16 |
| melwitt | old create I mean | 21:16 |
| dansmith | melwitt: well, it means we keep two paths | 21:16 |
| mriedem | CellsScheduler is parent/api cell right? | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | which builds the instances in the api cell | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | and calls the compute api code to create the instance in the api cell db | 21:17 |
| melwitt | gah pushed the wrong key | 21:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I dunno tbh | 21:17 |
| mriedem | i'm pretty sure it is b/c _create_instances_here calls instance = self.compute_api.create_db_entry_for_new_instance( | 21:17 |
| melwitt | don't we have to keep the two paths though? I mean wherever it says things like "cell_type =='api'" has to stay because cells v1 needs it | 21:17 |
| mriedem | non-cellsv1 create_db_entry_for_new_instance doesn't create the instance in the db | 21:18 |
| dansmith | melwitt: well, yes, but having instance created in two different *services* is uglier than just in two places in the same service, IMHO | 21:18 |
| dansmith | melwitt: because then you get into all kinds of potentials for races I think, assuming that the instance is created by a certain point, when it might not be, etc | 21:19 |
| dansmith | I mean, obviously the path out of this box is going to be some amount of "if cells1, else" sort of thing | 21:19 |
| dansmith | but I'm just dreading it | 21:19 |
| melwitt | yeah | 21:19 |
| dansmith | anyway, | 21:20 |
| mriedem | hmm, so have we hit the patch that sees this fail in cells v1 yet? | 21:20 |
| dansmith | I was hoping that maybe someone had already thought about this and what the best plan would be | 21:20 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: it fails in unit tests, I'm still waiting for the run on cellsv1, but I might have other breakages to fix first | 21:21 |
| dansmith | I just pushed it up like 30 minutes ago | 21:21 |
| mriedem | and that's just https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396417 ? | 21:21 |
| mriedem | i figured it would manifest in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319379/ | 21:21 |
| dansmith | no, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319379 | 21:22 |
| mriedem | ah ok | 21:22 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:22 |
| mriedem | that makes sense | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | so, unit tests will fail, sure, but i think we should check out what the cells v1 job failures are and then start poking at it | 21:23 |
| dansmith | anyway, so I will try to fix whatever that shakes out in the next day for the normal path and then see if I can start throwing things at it to make it still work | 21:23 |
| melwitt | yeah, I guess I would be thinking to preserve what cells v1 is doing until we remove it, which is the two path thing. because the alternatives involve trying to sync the create upward to the API or something, right? | 21:23 |
| mriedem | could we....take the build request that's created in the api now and use that to hydrate and create the instance in the api/parent cell db? | 21:23 |
| dansmith | melwitt: yeah, I'm just concerned about other stuff, like bits we have moved out of compute api to conductor that won't get run for cellsv1, like bdm validation or something (not really, but something like that) | 21:23 |
| mriedem | instead of the cells scheduler calling the compute api to create the instance? | 21:24 |
| dansmith | mriedem: no, we have to create it at about the same place as we do now, or later, because of all the junk that compute/api does to the instance | 21:24 |
| melwitt | I see | 21:24 |
| mriedem | does to the instance how? | 21:24 |
| mriedem | like figuring out the name and stuff? | 21:25 |
| dansmith | mriedem: well, for one thing it handles the "num_instances" bit, as well as yeah names and stuff | 21:25 |
| mriedem | i thought that was all done before the instance was serialized and the build request was created | 21:25 |
| dansmith | it's spread all over the place | 21:25 |
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| dansmith | well, I should say, | 21:25 |
| dansmith | I don't know where exactly the cell scheduler bit plugs in, | 21:25 |
| dansmith | so maybe it's more in the middle than I think, I dunno | 21:26 |
| mriedem | ok, so....sounds like maybe 2 options, | 21:26 |
| dansmith | regardless, fixing at that layer seems like more new different code | 21:26 |
| dansmith | which I'm afraid of | 21:26 |
| mriedem | 1. if the build_request.instance is 90% what we need in the api cell for v1, then maybe we can use that to create it in the api cell for v1 | 21:26 |
| mriedem | 2. else we see if we can hack in a conditional here or there to do the dirty deeds done dirt cheap | 21:26 |
| mriedem | until we can kill cells v1 | 21:26 |
| dansmith | I think #2 is the thing to try firfst | 21:26 |
| dansmith | meaning, | 21:27 |
| mriedem | sure | 21:27 |
| melwitt | I like that my suggestion is the AC/DC one | 21:27 |
| dansmith | right now we have a place where we just no longer call instance.create() | 21:27 |
| mriedem | 3. alaski saves our asses | 21:27 |
| dansmith | and so we'd just do "if cellsv1, do create like old times" but then we also have to not call the new conductor method I think | 21:27 |
| melwitt | yeah, alaski, come and solve this for us | 21:27 |
| dansmith | something | 21:27 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah that's not too terrible | 21:27 |
| mriedem | if that's all it is | 21:27 |
| dansmith | I think it's end-of-days worst possible thing | 21:27 |
| mriedem | # NOTE(danms): this makes bon scott roll in his grave, but we have to do this... | 21:28 |
| dtp | lol | 21:28 |
| dansmith | which is probably "not too terrible" times standard dansmith inflation factor | 21:28 |
| melwitt | haha | 21:28 |
| mriedem | 4. dtp fixes this all for us | 21:28 |
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| dtp | i wish! | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | did laski mention any of this in his brain dump patch? | 21:28 |
| dansmith | mriedem: no | 21:29 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I looked | 21:29 |
| dansmith | a lot. :) | 21:29 |
| mriedem | dagnabbit | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ha | 21:29 |
| melwitt | I looked too | 21:29 |
| melwitt | first thing I did :) | 21:29 |
| dansmith | alright, anyway, enough dwelling on this | 21:29 |
| mriedem | so, | 21:29 |
| mriedem | quotas?! | 21:29 |
| dansmith | I will keep plugging away | 21:29 |
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| melwitt | yeah, I'm working on it but nothing to show yet. haven't gotten as much done by now as I wanted to | 21:30 |
| mriedem | the spec was amended :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399750/ that's something | 21:31 |
| melwitt | oh, right. I did do that | 21:31 |
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| dansmith | okay, well, | 21:32 |
| dansmith | #topic open dis-cush-ee-ohn | 21:32 |
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| dansmith | anything else? | 21:32 |
| mriedem | well, | 21:32 |
| mriedem | on the ci front, | 21:32 |
| mriedem | we should be back to nova-net being gone by eod | 21:33 |
| mriedem | except for cells v1 | 21:33 |
| dansmith | yeah, that's good | 21:33 |
| mriedem | and on the bright side sdague us back to look at the grenade change to require cells v2 in ocata | 21:33 |
| mriedem | so progress | 21:33 |
| melwitt | yay | 21:33 |
| mriedem | s/us/is/ | 21:33 |
| mriedem | there are 2 semi related things for cells v2 | 21:34 |
| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/prep-for-network-aware-scheduling-ocata | 21:34 |
| mriedem | looks like that's moving slowly | 21:34 |
| mriedem | john has been caught up in the multiattach stuff lately | 21:34 |
| dansmith | boo | 21:34 |
| mriedem | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ which i've asked sdague to look at again, and i need to look at again | 21:35 |
| mriedem | on the bright side alex has started on the json schema validation for query params https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/consistent-query-parameters-validation | 21:35 |
| dansmith | there are multiple bright sides? | 21:35 |
| mriedem | there are 3 bright sides in this meeting | 21:36 |
| dansmith | oh my | 21:36 |
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| mriedem | #action need to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ | 21:36 |
| mriedem | #action review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399750/ | 21:36 |
| melwitt | one thing I realized is the remaining consoleauth stuff was covered by a spec that I missed reproposing for ocata. so that has to wait until pike | 21:36 |
| mriedem | does it block anything? | 21:37 |
| mriedem | if not implemented | 21:37 |
| dansmith | might block the upcall thing | 21:37 |
| dansmith | but also not sure who is going to work on it | 21:37 |
| mriedem | i was never really familiar with that series | 21:38 |
| melwitt | yeah, upcall needed to talk to consoleauth service otherwise. so mq switch needed from a cell, I think in that case | 21:38 |
| mriedem | would have to read up on it | 21:38 |
| melwitt | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/convert-consoles-to-objects | 21:38 |
| melwitt | I was thinking to pick it up, i.e. restore the abandoned patches | 21:38 |
| mriedem | i think someone would have to explain the upcall bits in more detail to me | 21:39 |
| mriedem | to see the relation to cells v2 here | 21:40 |
| dansmith | mriedem: preventing a call from a compute node up to the api db | 21:40 |
| mriedem | b/c the consoleauth stuff is in the api db now? | 21:40 |
| mriedem | no it's not | 21:40 |
| melwitt | oh wait, my memory is recalling alaski saying we could just change deployment assumptions to run a consoleauth service per cell | 21:41 |
| melwitt | in the meantime | 21:41 |
| dansmith | hmm, does that work? | 21:41 |
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| dansmith | I thought the problem was that we route the api request by token id, | 21:41 |
| dansmith | which we couldn't resolve to a cell without more information | 21:41 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321636/ is the cells v2 spec amendment | 21:41 |
| dansmith | unless maybe we change what we return for them to call or something, but that's an api change I *thought* | 21:41 |
| melwitt | I was thinking of the message queue part. if consoleauth runs on the api host, the cell would need to be able to talk to the api message queue | 21:42 |
| melwitt | to request auth of a token, IIUC | 21:42 |
| dansmith | I dunno, I don't have it in my head for sure | 21:42 |
| dansmith | maybe you two can go off and figure out what needs doing and decide if someone has time for it this cycle | 21:42 |
| mriedem | "The consoleauth service will be retained for legacy compatibility but | 21:42 |
| mriedem | in a deprecated status, supported for one release. After the | 21:42 |
| mriedem | period the consoleauth service can be removed." | 21:42 |
| dansmith | that's if we do paul's thing I think | 21:43 |
| melwitt | if routing is by token id from the api then that's another problem. I'm not that familiar with consoleauth | 21:43 |
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| melwitt | yeah | 21:43 |
| dansmith | melwitt: I dunno, I might be making that up, but I thought there was something about that | 21:43 |
| mriedem | This can be resolved by adding the instance uuid to | 21:43 |
| mriedem | the query string in the URL. | 21:43 |
| mriedem | i think it just means adding something like &instance_uuid=foo to the url | 21:43 |
| melwitt | dansmith: yeah, I take it as a possibility. I'll dig into it and find out what the deal is | 21:44 |
| dansmith | right | 21:44 |
| mriedem | and then we can map that to a cell | 21:44 |
| dansmith | mriedem: correct | 21:44 |
| dansmith | anyway, we've brought it up a couple weeks in a row now, so maybe we can shoot for having a plan by next week | 21:44 |
| dansmith | ? | 21:44 |
| melwitt | okay | 21:44 |
| mriedem | #action melwitt to figure out what's up with consoleauth changes wrt cells v2 | 21:45 |
| dansmith | #action melwitt to detangle the consoleauth stuff for next week | 21:45 |
| mriedem | ooo | 21:45 |
| dansmith | mriedem: gdi who is running this meeting? | 21:45 |
| mriedem | force of habit | 21:45 |
| melwitt | mriedem taking over the place | 21:45 |
| mriedem | so on the quotas thing, if there were some steps to get started on that i could maybe take a crack | 21:45 |
| mriedem | but would need some hand holding | 21:45 |
| mriedem | anyway, i just don't do much code stuff these days on any priorities, so i'm open | 21:46 |
| dansmith | #info mriedem's code chops are falling into disrepair | 21:46 |
| dansmith | anything else? | 21:46 |
| mriedem | hey | 21:47 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:47 |
| mriedem | see me triage that shelve race earlier?! | 21:47 |
| melwitt | mriedem: okay, let me think about that. I was first going to do the object code for the quota tables we're keeping (that keep the limits) | 21:47 |
| mriedem | i'm done | 21:47 |
| melwitt | and then after that work on the resource counting and replacing reserve/commit/rollback calls | 21:48 |
| mriedem | the latter part is what i thought sounded somewhat simpler | 21:48 |
| mriedem | but maybe it's not | 21:48 |
| mriedem | anyway, we can take that outside the meeting | 21:48 |
| dansmith | I move we adjourn | 21:49 |
| mriedem | second | 21:49 |
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| dansmith | #endmeeting | 21:49 |
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