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TheJuliao/17:00
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TheJulia#startmeeting ironic17:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Dec 12 17:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'17:00
jlvillalo/17:00
mariojvo/17:00
xhkuo/17:00
aslezilo/17:00
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TheJulia#chair jroll17:00
bfournieo/17:00
openstackCurrent chairs: TheJulia jroll17:00
rama_y_o/17:00
jlvillalAll hail our new chair-person!17:00
rlooo/17:00
krtayloro/17:00
rlooHAIL :)17:00
TheJuliajlvillal: lol17:00
vdroko/17:00
TheJuliaThe agenda for today’s meeting:17:00
Michael-zte2o/17:00
yuriyz|2o/17:00
davidlenwello/17:00
TheJulia#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting17:00
TheJuliadoh17:00
TheJulia#undo17:01
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7fa25e74e490>17:01
Michael-zte2Hello everyone17:01
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TheJulia#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting17:01
Michael-zte2Glad to join this project17:01
dtantsuro/17:01
milano/17:01
TheJulia#topic Announcements and Reminders17:01
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements and Reminders (Meeting topic: ironic)"17:01
rloowelcome Michael-zte217:01
* jlvillal can't tell difference between the two links...17:02
TheJuliaSo other than jroll is out for the majority of the week, I have nothing :)17:02
xavierro/17:02
Michael-zte2:)  <rloo>17:02
TheJuliajlvillal: Meetings/Ironic :)17:02
mjturek1o/17:02
joannajlvillal: lack of '/' ;)17:02
rloodeadline for travel support program is this week: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108645.html17:02
rloofor PTG ^^17:02
jlvillalAh17:02
* dtantsur will be on PTO starting next week and til January17:03
rajiniro/17:03
* jlvillal envies dtantsur 17:03
TheJulia#info PTG travel support deadline is this week http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108645.html17:03
jlvillaldtantsur: Enjoy Moscow! :)17:03
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rpiosoo/17:04
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dtantsurthanks :)17:04
TheJuliaAny other announcements ?17:04
rloooh, maybe mention, seems like some gates are broken?17:04
jlvillalWhere do priorities get mentioned?17:04
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mariojvis it just IPA gate or all gates?17:05
rloopython-ironicclient gate has been broken since last Thurs.17:05
rloofix for ^ is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408205/17:05
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rlooIPA gate is broken... not sure what the fix is yet, is that right?17:05
TheJuliaIPA is now broken due to tiny core linux being down17:05
vdrokyup, fix on review, but now i started seeing races in set_console/get_console in tempest api tests :(17:05
TheJuliaspecifically, tiny core's mirror is down.17:06
rloovdrok: is that for ironic patches?17:06
* jlvillal remembers that we really need to get TinyCore linux mirror setup on OpenStack infrastructure17:06
TheJuliajlvillal: I believe that was just proposed :)17:06
vdrokrloo: both ironic and client, the jobs run the same api tests everywhere17:06
TheJuliajlvillal: that or I'm going crazy17:06
pas-haTheJulia: I think we already asked for TC mirror and were refused17:07
rloovdrok: sigh, so a different breakage? please update our whiteboard with that :-(17:07
jlvillalTheJulia: I remember it being discussed before. I think sambetts_ was looking into it, or at least thinking about it.17:07
TheJuliaAny other items for announcement or shall we proceed?17:07
pas-haas TC itself is not CDN-ed they do not want to mirror that17:07
lucasagomespas-ha, :-/ would be great to have a mirror for it in OS17:07
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pas-halucasagomes: surely - TC down would simply become not ours problem, but infras17:08
pas-haand surprise - they are not happy :)17:08
lucasagomesheh I figure17:09
TheJulia#topic subteam status reports17:09
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TheJulia#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard17:09
TheJuliaStarting around line 8817:10
rloojlvillal: are you adding the testing stuff for rolling upgrades, would be good if you could consolidate with the grenade stuff under 'status as of most recent weekly meeting'17:11
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jlvillalAh, okay.17:11
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mgouldo/17:12
rloovdrok, vsaienk0: what is the order wrt reviewing code for portgroups & attach/detach.17:13
vdrokrloo: no particular order, atm they are independent17:13
jlvillalTheJulia: Are the priorities the same this week?17:13
rloovdrok: ok, so we need to get both into ironic, before we can get the nova-related ones ?17:14
jlvillalrloo: Should Line 85 be deleted?17:14
vdrokattach/detach seems the most important tho :)17:14
rloojlvillal: yup17:14
TheJuliajlvillal: they appear to be in need of updating, One of the listed priorities has already landed17:14
vdrokrloo: yes, attach/detach and portgoup mode/properties for sure17:14
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rloovdrok: if we get attach/detach (and none of the portgroup), can we then do the nova one?17:14
* jlvillal goes to delete Line 8517:14
TheJuliaside question, is anyone else getting disconnected from etherpad?17:15
vdrokrloo: not fully, we need the one with portgroup mode for config drive generation17:15
rlooTheJulia: i think you/we need to update those priorities based on what we see wrt subteam reports etc17:15
jlvillalTheJulia: Solid for me17:15
xavierrTheJulia: nope17:15
vdrokTheJulia: I'm OK17:15
lucasagomesTheJulia, it's working here17:15
rloovdrok: if you had to choose one -- could you put in priorities, which patch to review?17:15
vdrokrloo: OK, will do now17:15
jlvillalvdrok: Do you think attach/detach should be #1 priority? Instead of portgroups?17:15
vdrokjlvillal: yes, tho client side of portgroups is also needed17:16
vdrokbut it should be an easier review17:16
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jlvillalI'll let TheJulia change priorities as chair17:16
rlooare folks ok if i switch the order and move driver comp up to #3? (cuz dtantsur is away after this week)17:16
rloowrt the priorities ^^17:16
jlvillalI'm okay with that.17:16
vdrokrloo: are you ok with merging portgroups and attach/detach into one group?17:17
TheJuliarloo: I'm good with that, I was thinking the same17:17
vdrokrloo: or I can just put portgroups under attach17:17
jlvillaldtantsur: As a question, any idea how many more driver composition patches until completion?17:17
TheJuliaother than driver comp until he is away, it looks like we could make decent progress on notifications17:17
lucasagomesrloo, seems ok17:17
rloovdrok: nope, links etc are diff, so would be confusing i think17:17
dtantsurjlvillal, no so few17:17
vdrokok17:17
rlooTheJulia: notifications is really close17:17
dtantsurI'll try to put up as many as possible this week17:17
jlvillaldtantsur: Sorry I got confused by "no so few"17:18
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mariojvyep, notifications just needs a rebase and reviews on the CRUD patch17:18
mariojvafter that, all the other notification patches have 2 +2s17:18
dtantsurjlvillal, s/no/not/. maybe 4, 5, 6 more17:18
yuriyz|2yes will do tomorrow17:18
mariojvthanks yuriyz|217:18
jlvillaldtantsur: Ah, okay. A fair amount. Thanks!17:19
yuriyz|2comments are resolved17:19
TheJuliaI moved notifications up above boot from volume since I need to rebase all the BFV stuff and make updates17:19
jlvillaldtantsur: I added comment to the driver composition section. Feel free to correct it.17:19
rlooTheJulia: guess that's ok, although looks like both need to be rebased and boot-from-volume is more important i think.17:19
rloodtantsur: wrt bugs, we have 3 critical ones?17:20
dtantsurrloo, CI breakages17:20
rloodtantsur: the only one with a patch is the one for the client? should we put that as a priority?17:20
TheJuliaIt looked close essentially ready to land when I last glanced at it about an hour ago17:21
rlooTheJulia: ok, then no need17:21
dtantsurrloo, likely yes17:21
rloo++ thx JayF for bug triaging17:22
rlooand nice that security groups is DONE17:22
TheJuliaWith that, I Think we're good for the sub team update and priorities.  We don't have any stuck specs that I'm aware of that require discussion, nor any discussion topics, so I guess if there are no objections, time for RFE review?17:23
lucasagomes++17:23
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JayFo/17:23
lucasagomes(the ++ was to the security groups) but I'm fine to move on the RFE review as well17:23
rloosec, wrt snmp driver. anyone know who the contact person might be?17:23
rloothat is now non-deprecated :)17:24
rloosupported i mean (forgot the word for a sec)17:24
JayFrloo: probably mat or someone else from internap17:24
JayFrloo: they did all the work to get it back going17:24
rlooJayF: ok, i'll put mat's name down for now17:24
xhku+117:24
TheJulia#topic RFE review17:25
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rloohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/164271917:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1642719 in Ironic "[RFE] RADOSGW authentication mechanism for storing config drive in Ceph" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Anup (anup-d-navare)17:26
rlooi think that's actually ready to be approved w/o a spec but thought I'd bring it up17:26
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JayFI'm OK with approving it, it's sad that Anup isn't here though.17:26
TheJuliaI looked at that earlier and I feel like a spec would be a good idea, but not absolutely required IMHO.17:27
rlooJayF: yes, true, but i've brought up other rfe's w/o the person around17:27
rlooTheJulia: anything in particular missing, or just want the spec so you can see that things are addressed (ie, as a checklist)17:27
lucasagomesJayF, if we fix the problem with generating the configdrive at rebuild, do we need to store it at all ?17:27
mariojvi think it's sufficiently detailed17:28
mariojvgiven that ceph can use same APIs as swift, from what i understand17:28
JayFlucasagomes: no ; but that bug is going to take a lot of work to fix, that neither nova nor ironic has prioritized17:28
lucasagomesbut other than that yeah, the RFE seems straight forward17:28
lucasagomesJayF, yeah indeed. Plus backward compat17:28
rlooso are we good to approve? (or only good not requiring a spec?)17:29
TheJuliarloo: Checklist is a nice to have, but it feels like it could be built upon, we just need full scope with regards to credentials and the like, but still good with approving.17:29
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JayFI also did talk to Anup, IDK if it's mentioned in that RFE, but he volunteered to make sure this was documented17:29
jlvillallucasagomes: Yeah, I wasn't sure how difficult it would be to fix the bug about rebuild17:29
vdrokI'm good with approving, seems straightforward17:29
JayFeven if it meant we had to add docs for the configdrive support for swift17:29
rloook, if no objections, will approve17:29
JayF:)17:29
TheJuliaNone here. :)17:30
jlvillalI did ping Anup on he is attempting to join the meeting.17:30
rlooJayF: ++ saw your comment about docs17:30
jlvillals/on he/and he/17:30
rloojlvillal: thx, honestly, no need for him to join the meeting.17:30
* lucasagomes is ok approving as well w/o a spec17:30
rlooi'm moving on to the next17:30
rloohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/164781317:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1647813 in Ironic "[RFE] CI for using nova with resource classes and new-style flavors" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Jim Rollenhagen (jim-rollenhagen)17:30
rloohe better not be in this meeting :)17:30
lucasagomesjlvillal, yeah it will be hard, it requires some changes to the API + Nova17:30
TheJuliaHeh17:30
JayFI'm sorta meh on the idea this is an RFE in general17:31
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mariojvgiven that's a new ci job and not a big ci rework17:31
JayFbasically it's work we've more or less committed to doing already17:31
mariojvi think it's fine to approve17:31
TheJuliaI feel like this does not require a spec, that it is more an ongoing compatibility issue and that just needs to be addressed. tl;dr approve!17:31
rlooi'm good with +A that.17:31
JayFand jim just wanted a bug to put his ci-related patches towards17:31
rlooJayF: well, jroll tagged it as rfe :)17:31
JayFso I think it's an easy +A17:31
lucasagomes++17:31
JayFrloo: I know, I argued with him about it afterwards :P17:31
rlooany objections to not approving? going once ...17:31
rlootwice ... <waits>...17:31
rlooDONE! :)17:32
rloolast but not least: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/164844817:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1648448 in Ironic "[RFE]HPSUM firmware update as cleaning step for iLO drivers " [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Aparna (aparnavtce)17:32
rpiosoI would prefer an approach that applies to all in-tree drivers.  Is there such a thing for firmware update?  Also, I would like support of this functionality as an out-of-band cleaning step, not just in band.17:32
mariojvsince that's in-band (for now), that's only going to be happening with the agent_ilo driver right?17:33
TheJuliaTruthfully I feel like this is something better suited inside a hardware manager, not across a management network as virtual media.17:33
mariojvif so, i'm wondering... yup, exactly what TheJulia pointed out17:33
JayFTheJulia: I disagree vehemently17:33
JayFTheJulia: if a BMC supports updating firmware out of band, not allowing that support to be used is borderline silly17:34
JayFAIUI it hooks in an ISO with the firmware to upgrade to in it17:34
TheJuliaJayF: how so, I see this as the hardware manager knowing it can mount an ISO to get files in later cleaning steps?17:34
JayFthen triggers the firmware upgrade via BMC17:34
mariojvthis RFE is explicitly for an inband clean step, though17:34
rpioso+1 to oob!17:34
JayFoh really/17:34
mariojvoob would be cool too17:34
JayFdid I misread it?17:34
mariojvbut not part of RFE17:34
mariojv"This RFE proposes the HPSUM(HP Smart Update Manager) based firmware update as a inband clean step for iLO drivers.17:34
mariojv"17:34
TheJuliaJayF: Totally with you for OOB :)17:35
JayFoh, so they want to hook up an ISO, and use that HP ISO to upgrade firmware?17:35
JayFHmm.17:35
TheJuliayup17:35
* JayF votes for needs-spec17:35
mariojvthis actually says something about hardware manager too though17:35
mariojvlast sentence of the rfe17:35
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TheJuliaFor use by the hardware manager, so it seems like the conductor would be orchestrating virtual media attachments for the ISO.  I'm also in the needs-spec category17:35
JayFYeah, given there seems to be confusion around what this is trying to do17:35
JayFwe should totally request a spec17:36
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mariojvagreed17:36
rloothx, needs spec it is :)17:36
rlooTheJulia: I'm done, over to you!17:36
TheJuliaThank you rloo!17:36
TheJulia#topic Open Discussion17:36
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* jlvillal listens to the crickets...17:37
TheJuliaAnyone have anything to discuss? Patches that need reviewing? etc? :)17:37
rloooh, do we want to discuss the party we're going to have now that jroll is away? :)17:37
gabriel-bezerraHi folks, this xavierr 's patch is out https://review.openstack.org/408298 addressing the power-off before set-boot-device issue we discussed a couple weeks ago17:37
TheJuliajlvillal: I wonder if the crickets can play other music :)17:37
jlvillalheh :)17:38
gabriel-bezerrathanks vdrok and mgould for the reviews17:38
TheJuliarloo: What sort of party? ;)17:38
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NobodyCam:)17:38
xavierryes, ty mgould and vdrok :)17:38
gabriel-bezerraone of the jobs of our ci is broken while this patch doesn't land17:38
vdrokrloo: portgroups client patch review party?17:39
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Michael-zte2Where do I get the latest information on this project?  From here, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard ?17:39
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jlvillalMichael-zte2: That is a good resource on what is currently happening as far as issues and progress.17:40
vdrokdepends on what information you want :) that is more of a status thing17:40
TheJuliagabriel-bezerra: It look xavierr received some feedback this morning :)17:40
xavierrMichael-zte2: White board + IRC :)17:40
jlvillalMichael-zte2: That is not documentation though.17:40
xavierrTheJulia: haha yeah o/17:40
Michael-zte2jlvillal:thank you17:40
rpiosoMichael-zte2: https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-ocata-priorities17:41
TheJuliaxavierr: gabriel-bezerra: It would likely help reviewer context to know that this unbreaks your gate in the commit message :)17:42
Michael-zte2xavierr: thank you. I want to start with the code review, is this ok?17:42
xavierrTheJulia: indeed17:42
gabriel-bezerraTheJulia: yes, he did. I'd just like to grab attention to it as it is important for the CI, and seems like a simple patch.17:42
TheJuliaMichael-zte2: In that case, the whiteboard is a good starting place for revisions to take a look at.17:42
gabriel-bezerraTheJulia: thanks for the tip17:43
xavierrMichael-zte2: sure :)17:43
Michael-zte2TheJulia: OK. Thank you very much17:43
TheJuliaMichael-zte2: and feel free to ask any questions in #openstack-ironic, especially if you need additional context.17:43
TheJuliajlvillal: The question is now, do the crickets return ;)17:44
Michael-zte2TheJulia:Thank you for your very useful information17:44
jlvillalTheJulia: If so, we get ~10 minutes back :)17:45
* rloo hears crickets17:45
NobodyCam:)17:45
TheJuliaWell, if there is nothing else, thank you everyone!17:45
NobodyCamthank you17:45
rloothank you TheJulia! :)17:45
lucasagomesty17:45
TheJulia#endmeeting17:45
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Michael-zte2vdrok: Are there other useful sources of information?17:45
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Michael-zte2Bye, everyone17:46
vdrokMichael-zte2: let's move to #openstack-ironic :)17:46
Michael-zte2OK17:47
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