Tuesday, 2016-12-13

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matjazp#startmeeting training-guides13:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 13 13:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'training_guides'13:01
matjazphi13:01
matjazproll call13:01
ildikovo/13:01
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kmARCo/13:02
matjazphey ildikov kmARC13:02
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matjazp#link Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda13:02
diablo_rojo_phonHello :)13:02
matjazphey diablo_rojo_phon13:02
matjazp#topic Review of action items from the previous meeting13:03
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matjazpsee meeting minutes at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-11-29-13.00.html13:03
matjazpianychoi you here?13:03
ildikovI read the Stackalytics idea in the meeting logs13:04
ildikovI think it's too much effort for minimal outcome13:04
matjazpwell I guess Ian changed his mind also, since there were no email to the ML13:05
ildikovI would rather invest in putting together something dummy in the Sandbox repo and have groups of people hacking on that13:05
ildikovmatjazp: I didn't see one either13:05
diablo_rojo_phonildikov: +113:05
ildikovI thought to share my views here, so it's documented13:06
matjazpildikov: trainees could update their affiliation into the Stackalytics at the end, that's not a lot of effort13:06
matjazpildikov : we could put that in the finalizing activities/exercises13:07
ildikovmatjazp: we ran out of time during the last occasion13:07
matjazpok, it's not important13:08
ildikovmatjazp: and I think we should work more on having more time on the code/docs and practice on those things to make people interested enough to stay13:08
* mhayden stumbles in late13:08
matjazpmoving on, we'll talk about Dec 27 at the AOB topic13:08
matjazp#topic Upstream training13:09
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matjazphey mhayden13:09
ildikovmhayden: hi. thanks for joining :)13:09
mhaydenglad to join!13:09
diablo_rojo_phonmhayden: hello :)13:09
matjazpildikov: nice feedback for the Superuser article :)13:09
ianychoihi all13:09
ildikovmatjazp: thanks, co-production with kmARC and diablo_rojo_phon :)13:10
ianychoiI am participating another meeting I will follow up13:10
matjazpok ianychoi13:10
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ildikovas promised I created the bug regarding duplications in the material13:10
ianychoihi diablo_rojo_phon and ildikov !13:10
ianychoihi kmARC :)13:10
ildikovianychoi: hi :)13:10
ildikovas a starting point on improving what we have I put together a list of exercises we have today: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-training-exercises13:11
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matjazpgreat13:11
ildikovI think we need more and also more group exercises as people worked well together and that's a good practice anyhow13:12
matjazpI was also talking with Training labs team (Roger and Pranav) at the summit13:12
diablo_rojo_phonAgreed13:12
ildikovmatjazp: what was the outcome of that?13:12
matjazpthey'll be working on devstack instalation13:12
matjazproger has a PoC13:12
matjazpanyone interested in testing it before it goes public?13:13
ildikovmatjazp: FYI, we have a full VM image put together by kmARC currently for the upstream training13:13
matjazpildikov : I know13:13
matjazpTaining labs solution is pure bash13:14
ildikovmatjazp: do you have the link handy for that PoC?13:14
matjazpjust a moment13:14
matjazpI have it on the email13:15
matjazphttps://github.com/ideaship/training-labs.git13:15
matjazpJust switch to the branch devstack_02 and run ./osbash.sh -b devstack.13:15
matjazpRoger: It should set up a VM for devstack, create a stack user and install13:15
matjazpdevstack (just to see if it works :)). I was at least able to log into the13:15
matjazpdashboard. Is this going in the right direction for you?13:15
diablo_rojo_phonWhy does he not just put a wip together and push it to Gerrit?13:15
matjazp^ that was form Roger's mail13:16
diablo_rojo_phonJust curious. Would be easier to give feedback.13:16
matjazpthat's the next step13:16
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matjazpI guess he wants to test it in "private" beta before pushing it13:17
matjazpsadly, I dodn't have time to test it yet13:17
matjazpthis December workload is maddening13:17
ildikovis this multi-node by default?13:17
matjazpnot sure13:18
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matjazptheir original cluster is13:18
matjazpbut it was not a good fit for us because it's not devstack baased13:18
matjazpand we need to teach developers how to use devstack13:19
ildikovit seems slightly a duplicated effort to what kmARC is doing to me13:20
diablo_rojo_phonildikov: +113:20
diablo_rojo_phonAnd it will be harder to use in class because it won't be uniform across all students systems.13:21
matjazpit al depends if it lowers the barrier for some13:21
matjazpbash based vs vagrant based13:21
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon: why different?13:22
matjazpif I understood correctly, it works on all systems, linux, mac and windows13:22
diablo_rojo_phonThe VM provided the same environment for all the students.13:22
ildikovmatjazp: lowers the barrier in the sense of running a command and getting a Devstack env in a VM or?13:22
matjazpno, vagrant has its issues13:23
diablo_rojo_phonMade it delightfully easy to answer questions and have the students help one another.13:23
matjazptry to use it on suse13:23
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon : yes, the same env for all is a must13:23
matjazpso what I'm saying is not that we should support both options, but should use on or the other13:24
ildikovwe provide the full image to people too IIRC13:24
ildikovkmARC: can you look into the training-lab activities?13:25
kmARCYes I will13:25
matjazpwe should definitely choose one solution only13:26
ildikovkmARC: cool, thanks13:26
ildikovtraining-lab I guess can be a landing repo for the option we choose13:26
matjazpwe're spread really thin here, so maybe "outsourcing" a piece like this could release some of the capacity for other tasks13:26
matjazpildikov: yes, my thought exatly13:27
ildikovkmARC's solution/image worked like a charm during the training13:27
diablo_rojo_phonildikov: +1 :)13:27
matjazpthey would be glad to help us maintain whatever we choose13:27
diablo_rojo_phonmatjazp: Good to know.13:28
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ildikovthat sounds good overall, I was more thinking about the space at this point13:28
matjazpildikov : space?13:28
ildikovmatjazp: thanks for the info13:28
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ildikovmatjazp: repo logistics I meant13:28
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matjazpoh, the location for the training VM?13:28
ildikovmatjazp: we were thinking about where to upload kmARC's artifacts after the training13:29
matjazpif the trainig labs will take care of maintaining the VM, it should be in their repo13:30
ildikovmatjazp: and the corresponding files to create it13:30
matjazpif they wont, we can always just use our repo13:30
ildikovmatjazp: kmARC's image also contains IRC client and python IDE IIRC, so it's more than just Devstack13:30
matjazpok, to sum it up13:31
matjazp1. kmARC will look into Rogers PoC13:31
matjazpkmARC: ok?13:31
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matjazp2. we can sync with them if they are willing to maintain our training VM13:31
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kmARCmatjazp: OK13:32
kmARCildikov: My image doesn't have IDE YET, but I'm working on it13:32
matjazp3. if not, we publish it in our repo instead and automate the building13:32
ianychoiI think training-labs usually follows the steps in install-guides but including IRC client and python IDE for dev environment is good13:33
ildikovkmARC: sorry, I mixed up the current state with the plans :S13:33
matjazp#action kmARC looks into the Training labs devstack PoC13:34
ildikovianychoi: is that still the case if they build their things on Devstack?13:34
matjazp#action matjazp syncs with Training labs to see if they are interested into maintaining a Devstack VM for training13:34
ianychoiildikov, the use of DevStack will be good if training participants will test API calls, but trystack can replace with such case..13:35
ildikovianychoi: I was just wondering how much it follows the install-guide in that case, I've never compared the two13:36
matjazpbased on the both tasks we can decide later (at the next meeting?) what we can use and where to publish it13:36
ildikovmatjazp: +113:37
diablo_rojo_phonAre we done with upstream training now? I wanna go back to bed :)13:37
ianychoiildikov, AFAIK training-labs now tries to extract bash commands from install-guide to prepare the same environment described in install-guide as much as possible13:37
matjazpianychoi : yes, that is their cluster solution13:38
ildikovdiablo_rojo_phon: mostly I think, please look into the etherpad with the exercises :)13:38
matjazpianychoi : Roger prepared just for us a PoC with devstack13:38
diablo_rojo_phonWill do :)13:38
matjazpgood night, diablo_rojo_phon13:38
ianychoimatjazp, oh nice :)13:38
ianychoidiablo_rojo_phon, good night!13:39
ildikovmhayden: we could use some thoughts and ideas from you too in the etherpad I posted above13:39
diablo_rojo_phonWell it's morning, but early. Night :)13:39
mhaydenildikov: i'll give it a look13:39
ianychoihaha13:39
matjazpdiablo_rojo_phon : in that case, I take it back ;)13:39
ianychoimhayden, oh hi!13:39
ildikovmhayden: greate, thank you13:39
mhaydeni like how some of the less technical, more social stuff is covered here13:40
ildikovmhayden: if you add new ideas please keep the authorship colors or add your name so we know who to ask if there are any questions to it, etc.13:40
matjazpok, moving on? or is there anything left to discuss for Upstream training?13:40
mhaydengood thinking13:40
ianychoiI agree to move on13:40
matjazp#topic training guides13:41
ildikovmhayden: I would like to make the lectures part of the training more social and interactive too, kind of "learn by playing" approach or more professionally using problem based learning more13:41
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ianychoiFor training-guides, I do not have any new things to do... sorry13:41
ianychoito do or report..13:41
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matjazpildikov : ah, should I switch the topic back to upstream?13:41
ildikovmatjazp: if there are no questions to the approach then we can move on13:42
matjazpI'm good13:42
ildikovcurrently I would like to collect ideas and then update the material based on what we collected13:42
ianychoiildikov, I agree to re-organize exercise and combine them if possible13:43
matjazpildikov : and of course shorten the training to one day, right?13:43
kmARC:-S I don't want that13:43
kmARCwe don't have enough time like this either13:44
ildikovmatjazp: no, or at least I'm not aware of that13:44
matjazpoh, right. we were discussing that for user groups and openstack days13:45
ildikovmatjazp: we were thinking about bringing some smaller modules to local events if we can make the parts of the material more let's say standalone13:45
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ianychoiFor local upstream training, I think one day would be better but I do not want to shorten upstream trainings before Summit. Participants would so expect and enjoy 2 days!13:46
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matjazpok, nothing to report about Training guides, maybe we should just move on to the AOB?13:46
ianychoi+113:46
matjazp#topic any other business13:46
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matjazpdecide about IRC meeting on Dec 2713:46
matjazpI won't be there, so maybe we can just skip it13:47
mhaydeni can't make that one :/13:47
ianychoiI think most people will be holidays.13:47
ildikovI can be around, but I think it's better to just skip it, most people are out13:47
matjazpagree13:47
ianychoi+1 for skipping13:47
matjazp#info we skip the Dec 27 IRC meeting13:48
matjazpso see you all again on Jan 10, ok?13:48
ianychoiOkay :)13:48
ildikovmatjazp: sounds good to me :)13:49
ianychoiildikov, will you have a meeting for upstream training during PTG?13:49
matjazpheheehe.. no need to put that up for a vote13:49
ildikovianychoi: I plan to, will start to organize early Jan13:49
ildikovianychoi: I think most people can only think of the holidays by now anyway and trying to close last minute things before that :)13:50
ianychoiildikov, thanks. I am asking because it seems that most PTG meetings will be room-based according to PTG homepage..13:50
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ianychoiildikov, yep let's discuss it next year!13:51
ildikovianychoi: I will look into that13:51
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ildikovianychoi: thanks for the heads up13:51
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ianychoiildikov, it's my pleasure :)13:51
matjazpanything else left to discuss?13:52
matjazpif not: Marry Christmas (if you celebrate it) and a happy New Year to all :)13:53
ildikovHappy Holidays Everyone! :)13:54
ianychoiToday, I was leading to study with about 10 Korean people for local upstream training13:54
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ianychoiI have felt that many people still struggle with git review authentication (e.g., git review -s failure)13:54
ianychoi1. no gerrit username13:54
ianychoi2. no contact information on gerrit13:54
ianychoi3. no ICLA13:54
ianychoi4. duplicated configs for gerrit.username13:54
ianychoi5. Community member, not Foundation member13:54
ianychoi6. E-mails are different (www.openstack.org and review.openstack.org)13:54
ianychoi7. different SSH keys13:54
ianychoiThose are what I have found common errors for beginners...13:55
ianychoiDocumenting such common error cases for git setup would be a good idea ? :)13:55
ildikovianychoi: I think we can write up an article or blog about common mistakes and link it to the training web page13:55
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matjazpOr just put that stuff into the lanfding page13:56
ildikovianychoi: as the steps are already written down to at least 3 places clearly and people don't read them, but they like blog posts :)13:56
ianychoiildikov, thanks.. I will more describe it! But not now... may be early of next year? :)13:56
matjazpthese are really common errors13:57
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matjazpmaybe we can make a FAQ page?13:57
ildikovianychoi: I can put together a material with the above items and send it to you to check13:57
ianychoiildikov, good :)13:58
matjazp2 mins left13:58
ianychoiNo more from me :)13:58
ildikovnot from me either13:58
matjazpthanks all for your time13:59
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matjazpsee you all next year13:59
ianychoiThank you! and see all next year maybe?!13:59
matjazpin the mean time, we can sync over ML13:59
matjazpas we wont see eachother for a month13:59
matjazptahe care13:59
ildikovyeap, let's keep that as a sync place13:59
ildikovtake care and see you next year! :)13:59
matjazp#endmeeting14:00
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tdurakov#startmeeting Nova Live Migration14:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 13 14:01:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tdurakov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration'14:01
pkoniszewskio/14:01
tdurakovhello everyone14:01
davidgiluko/14:02
tdurakovlet's start14:02
tdurakov#topic ci14:02
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tdurakovthis one looks good14:02
tdurakovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/347471/14:02
tdurakovI'll add test patch to run this ~10-15 time in a row14:03
tdurakovs/raw14:03
tdurakovif it passes - we could merge14:03
tdurakovmriedem filed a bug for grenade https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/164958614:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1649586 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ""HTTP exception thrown: Cannot 'os-migrateLive' instance while it is in task_state migrating" in gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-live-migration-nv" [Medium,Confirmed]14:04
tdurakovchecking right now14:04
tdurakovnot sure what causes tempest to do multiple migration request for single instance14:04
tdurakovanything else for ci?14:05
pkoniszewskii'm also debugging this grenade issue14:05
tdurakov++14:05
tdurakovlet's move on14:06
tdurakovI haven't seen any new bugs for l-m14:07
pkoniszewskime neither14:07
tdurakovso let's skip this14:08
tdurakovpkoniszewski: reviewed this series14:08
tdurakovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/407517/214:08
tdurakovlgtm14:08
pkoniszewskithanks for your time!14:08
johnthetubaguynow I am back I hope to send some quality time in those patches we have up now14:09
tdurakovjohnthetubaguy: could you take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407147/ :)14:09
johnthetubaguyis that central etherpad up to date with all the series we have in the pipe?14:09
tdurakovit's should be related^14:09
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tdurakovjohnthetubaguy: updated etherpad14:13
tdurakovpkoniszewski: do you need help with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244489/ ?14:13
wznoinsko/14:13
pkoniszewskii do need, with testing14:13
pkoniszewskias any of my envs do not support SR-IOV14:14
tdurakovgot it14:14
johnthetubaguytdurakov: awesome, thank you14:14
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wznoinskpkoniszewski, so you need a machine not help? ;-)14:14
pkoniszewskior a machine14:15
wznoinskpkoniszewski, I may have something, let's talk after the meeting14:15
pkoniszewskiok14:15
tdurakovdo we have anything else for today?14:15
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tdurakovif no, I'd remove for grenade job debug14:16
tdurakovs/ return14:16
tdurakovokay then14:17
tdurakovthanks for joining the meeting14:17
tdurakov#endmeeting14:17
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mcuniettihi all15:10
sigmavirusmcunietti: you can find the operators meeting info on eavesdrop.openstack.org15:10
* sigmavirus noticed you in puppet-openstack15:10
mcuniettisigmavirus: thanks15:11
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mriedemstable meeting today?16:04
mriedemguessing not16:04
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