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| soichi | hi | 05:31 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:31 |
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| soichi | hello | 05:34 |
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| soichi | anyone else? still waiting | 05:39 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:42 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 05:42:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:42 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:42 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:42 |
| soichi | #topic Loop detection of tap flows (to prevent creating a loop) | 05:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Loop detection of tap flows (to prevent creating a loop) (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:42 | |
| soichi | i'd like to be remained this as a homework for all taas folks | 05:43 |
| soichi | may be homework during Christmas and/or New Year holidays :) | 05:43 |
| kaz | +1 | 05:44 |
| soichi | #topic End of year and New year holidays? | 05:45 |
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| soichi | i will confirm taas floks whether we can have IRC meeting on next week | 05:48 |
| soichi | i'm afraid that today's IRC is the last one on this year... | 05:48 |
| -soichi- in 2017, i'd like to resume IRC meeting from 11th Jan. | 05:50 | |
| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 05:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:51 | |
| soichi | it seems no more topics, so i'd like to close today's IRC | 05:55 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 05:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 05:55:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-12-14-05.42.html | 05:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-12-14-05.42.txt | 05:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2016/taas.2016-12-14-05.42.log.html | 05:56 |
| soichi | bye | 05:56 |
| kaz | bye | 05:56 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 13:00:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
| claudiub | anyone here? | 13:01 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:01 |
| claudiub | hello :) | 13:01 |
| sagar_nikam | I hope you had a good vacation | 13:01 |
| claudiub | it was great, it was like a surprisingly long weekend :D | 13:01 |
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| claudiub | is someone else from your team joining? | 13:02 |
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| sagar_nikam | no | 13:02 |
| sagar_nikam | we can start | 13:02 |
| claudiub | cool | 13:02 |
| claudiub | #topic Neutron Hyper-V Agent | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Neutron Hyper-V Agent (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:02 | |
| claudiub | soo there are a couple of things i'm working on for networking-hyperv | 13:03 |
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| claudiub | one of them are neutron trunk ports | 13:03 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:03 |
| domi007 | hi all :) | 13:04 |
| claudiub | heey, long time no see :) | 13:04 |
| claudiub | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/TrunkPort | 13:04 |
| domi007 | indeed, sorry about that :) gonna listen in again from time to time | 13:04 |
| claudiub | neutron trunk ports have been implemented in newton, btw | 13:04 |
| claudiub | and it could have some nfv usecases | 13:05 |
| domi007 | so there are still plans to support HyperV's networking instead of using OVS? | 13:05 |
| claudiub | domi007: sure, good to have you back. :) | 13:05 |
| claudiub | domi007: so, at the moment, we are supporting both. | 13:05 |
| claudiub | domi007: and we are currently looking into the new networking model that came with windows server 2016 | 13:06 |
| claudiub | which would mean native support for vxlan networking, as well as l3 support | 13:06 |
| claudiub | and other features | 13:06 |
| sagar_nikam | so what is the change in Ocata.. if we have this already implemented in newton | 13:06 |
| domi007 | oooo :) much has changed I see | 13:06 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: neutron trunk ports have been introduced in newton in neutron (linuxbridge and neutron-ovs-agent) | 13:07 |
| claudiub | and we didn't have that implemented in networking-hyperv | 13:07 |
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| claudiub | anyways. neutron trunk ports are not enabled in the neutron server by default. | 13:08 |
| claudiub | i had to find out that the hard way. :) | 13:08 |
| claudiub | you'll have to add the TrunkPlugin in neutron.conf, something like this: | 13:09 |
| claudiub | service_plugins = neutron.services.l3_router.l3_router_plugin.L3RouterPlugin,neutron.services.metering.metering_plugin.MeteringPlugin,neutron.services.trunk.plugin.TrunkPlugin | 13:09 |
| claudiub | just fyi | 13:09 |
| domi007 | good to know | 13:09 |
| claudiub | i didn't really find any information about this specific thing | 13:09 |
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| claudiub | the other thing that i'll be looking into and implement pretty soon, would be networking qos | 13:10 |
| claudiub | you can add qos policies to neutron networks | 13:10 |
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| claudiub | and it was first introduced in neutron in liberty. so, i think it's about time to support this. :) | 13:11 |
| claudiub | hm, sagar dropped off. will wait for him for a bit | 13:11 |
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| sagar_nikam | Hi.... I am back | 13:12 |
| claudiub | wb :) | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | got disconnected | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | we had a cyclone yesterday in my state... network services are badly affected | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | i might be disconnected again | 13:12 |
| claudiub | ooh, sorry to hear that | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | i am safe... only bad network | 13:13 |
| claudiub | just a small recap: the next feature: networking qos. will start working on it pretty soon. it was first introduced in liberty in neutron. | 13:13 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: that's good, people >> internet. :D | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:13 |
| claudiub | any questions? | 13:14 |
| claudiub | about this topic? | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:14 |
| claudiub | cool. moving on. | 13:14 |
| claudiub | #topic nova staus | 13:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova staus (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:15 | |
| claudiub | no new patches merged on nova for us since last meeting, unfortunately. | 13:15 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:15 |
| claudiub | regarding the nova-ovs ci, if you are curious, here are some test results: http://64.119.130.115/debug/nova-ovs/results.html | 13:16 |
| claudiub | the test failures are unrelated, they are a bit flaky, because of tempest | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | checking | 13:17 |
| claudiub | they are being re-run currently. | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | any perf improvement as compared to hyperv switch ? | 13:18 |
| claudiub | the hyper-v ci doesn't test performance, it only runs tempest | 13:19 |
| claudiub | so, it won't be able to tell any performance difference between neutron-ovs-agent and neutron-hyperv-agent | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | ok.. got it | 13:19 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: also, what do you mean by performance: the VM's network throughput, or the VM spawn time? | 13:20 |
| claudiub | anyways, I mentioned last time that I was having some weird issue regarding the neutron-ovs-agent | 13:21 |
| domi007 | hm what was that? | 13:22 |
| claudiub | that it would sometimes "freeze", and wouldn't process ports anymore, but it would still send its alive state to neutron | 13:22 |
| sagar_nikam | could you find the root cause ? | 13:23 |
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| claudiub | yep | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | ok... what was it | 13:23 |
| domi007 | oo I see | 13:23 |
| claudiub | managed to find a deterministic rule to reproduce it as well | 13:23 |
| claudiub | also, this issue doesn't appear prior to newton | 13:23 |
| claudiub | soo.. in newton, the default values of a new neutron conf options changed | 13:24 |
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| claudiub | in particular: of_interface changed from "of_interface" to "native" and ovsdb_interface changed from "vsctl" to "native" | 13:25 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:25 |
| claudiub | we currently do not support the "native" interface, unfortunately. but we are currently working on it, and it will most probably be included in the next windows ovs release | 13:26 |
| domi007 | okay, any timeline on that? | 13:26 |
| claudiub | so, until then, bear in mind, if you upgrade to newton or newer, you'll have to have these config options on the neutron-ovs-agent's neutron.conf files: | 13:27 |
| domi007 | also is it gonna be a new major version? | 13:27 |
| claudiub | [ovs] | 13:27 |
| claudiub | ... | 13:27 |
| claudiub | of_interface = ovs-ofctl | 13:27 |
| claudiub | ovsdb_interface = vsctl | 13:27 |
| domi007 | okay, so there is a workaround :) | 13:27 |
| claudiub | yep :) | 13:27 |
| claudiub | just have these config options and you'll be fine. | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | ok got it.. as of now we are still in the process of upgrading to mitaka... so not so much of a issue for us for sometime | 13:28 |
| domi007 | great, thanks | 13:28 |
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| claudiub | domi007: most probably next minor version release. we are currently on 2.6.. so 2.7 | 13:29 |
| claudiub | as for timeline, we follow the same release timeline as the ovs timeline | 13:30 |
| domi007 | okay, good :) thank you | 13:30 |
| claudiub | and just fyi: functionally, there is no difference between the "native" and "vsctl / ovs_ofctl" interfaces. they do the same thing. | 13:31 |
| domi007 | sure :) | 13:31 |
| claudiub | the difference is in performance. the vsctl / ovs_ofctl interface does sys exec calls, while the native one connects to a tcp socket opened by ovs | 13:31 |
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| claudiub | s/performance/execution time | 13:32 |
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| claudiub | any questions on this subject? | 13:32 |
| domi007 | not from me | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | no from me | 13:33 |
| claudiub | cool. :) | 13:33 |
| claudiub | #topic Hyper-V Cluster updates | 13:33 |
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| claudiub | just a minor update: we've found a few bugs, we've submitted their fixes | 13:34 |
| claudiub | will link to them shortly | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | gerrit link ? | 13:34 |
| claudiub | yep. gerrit seems down to me | 13:34 |
| sagar_nikam | the last time (which is few months back) we had tried your patch. it worked quite well | 13:35 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: that's good to hear. :) | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | we can try it again once you give the gerrit | 13:35 |
| sagar_nikam | and everything is fixed | 13:35 |
| claudiub | those bugs are minor, and quite edge case, but it's still good to have the fixes and know about them | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:36 |
| sagar_nikam | and what happened to cinder-volume suppprt ? | 13:36 |
| claudiub | ok. first one is a very minor one. it happens if you have any non-nova clustered vms. the hyper-v cluster driver was trying to failover them as well, and it shouldn't. | 13:37 |
| claudiub | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406131/ | 13:37 |
| claudiub | the second one: the nova-compute service listens to failover events, but if the service is down for any reason, and a failover occurs during that period, it won't be able to process those failovers, meaning that if any instance failovered to the "current" host, the nova-compute service couldn't let nova know about it | 13:39 |
| claudiub | and nova would still consider it on the "old" host. | 13:40 |
| claudiub | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406069/ | 13:40 |
| sagar_nikam | will check and get back | 13:40 |
| claudiub | the first one was merged on master, newton, and mitaka | 13:40 |
| claudiub | the second one, there's a minor comment that i'll have to address. | 13:41 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: also, what did you mean about the cinder-volume support? | 13:41 |
| sagar_nikam | nova instances having cinder volumes attached to instances running on the cluster | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | if failover happens | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam | the volumes are not migrated | 13:43 |
| claudiub | it always worked with smb volumes. | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | i think instances are not migrated since it has volumes | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam | i meant iscsi volumes... i should have been clear | 13:43 |
| claudiub | as for iscsi, it is in the pipeline at the moment | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:44 |
| sagar_nikam | let me know if you get it working | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | also last time we used your patch... it was submitted upstream in nova | 13:45 |
| sagar_nikam | these 2 new patches you mentioned are in compute-hyperv | 13:45 |
| claudiub | sure, but it take some time to get it right | 13:46 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep, they are in compute-hyperv | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | will these patches work as is in nova upstream ? | 13:46 |
| sagar_nikam | after i apply your previous patch which we have tested | 13:46 |
| claudiub | yeah | 13:46 |
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| sagar_nikam | ok... will let you know how it progress | 13:47 |
| claudiub | cool, ty. :) | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | in the meanwhile if you get iscsi support working, let me know, i will apply that patch as well and test | 13:48 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep, will do. :) | 13:48 |
| claudiub | anything else on this topic? | 13:48 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:49 |
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| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:49 |
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| claudiub | any news from you folks? :) | 13:49 |
| domi007 | nothing really :) | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | yes.. i have started raising tickets to get us moving with mitaka with the ops team | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | first thing... we need to clone os-win in our downstream repo | 13:50 |
| domi007 | we're gonna get new hw around february, gonna transition to openstack-ansible and hyperv 2016 | 13:50 |
| sagar_nikam | i have a question on os-win | 13:50 |
| claudiub | awesome :) | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | we will use stale/mitaka | 13:51 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: sure, go ahead | 13:51 |
| sagar_nikam | if you find bugs in ocata... do you plan to fix them in stable/mitaka as well ? | 13:51 |
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| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep, while respecting the general openstack policy | 13:52 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:52 |
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| claudiub | which means that currently, i'm backporting all bug fixes to newton, and to mitaka, primarely high impact / low risk bug fixes | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | i will take some time for us to get going with mitaka as creating downstream repos will take time | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | will keep you posted | 13:53 |
| sagar_nikam | next question | 13:54 |
| claudiub | sure | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | any news on this | 13:54 |
| sagar_nikam | https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP-WebConnect/issues/149 | 13:54 |
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| claudiub | it seems that there's some problem with cpprestsdk | 13:56 |
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| sagar_nikam | yes.. remember that .. had discussed with c64cosmin: | 13:57 |
| claudiub | and it can't do https requests to keystone | 13:57 |
| claudiub | he tried with a newer cpprestsdk, but the problem persists. | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | any fixes planned ? | 13:57 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:57 |
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| claudiub | hm, other than that, I don't have any other info on this matter | 13:59 |
| claudiub | any other questions? | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | time almost over | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | no... | 13:59 |
| sagar_nikam | thanks for attending | 13:59 |
| claudiub | thanks for joining. :) | 14:00 |
| claudiub | see you next week! | 14:00 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 14:00:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-12-14-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-12-14-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2016/hyper_v.2016-12-14-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
| ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 14:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 14:00 |
| ralonsoh | Hi | 14:00 |
| claudiub | o/ | 14:01 |
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| ralonsoh | Let's wait one minute | 14:01 |
| davidsha | Hi | 14:01 |
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| ralonsoh | hi davidsha | 14:01 |
| ralonsoh | ok, let's start... | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 14:02 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1634798 | 14:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634798 in neutron "[RFE] Qos DSCP to vlan priority mapping" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | Any volunteer? | 14:03 |
| davidsha | One sec | 14:03 |
| davidsha | That's dependent on this right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505631 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505631 in neutron "[RFE] QoS VLAN 802.1p Support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kannan Raman (kannanrc20) | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | But should be merged now | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | let me check | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | ok, not yet | 14:05 |
| davidsha | It just has the spec atm | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | so maybe could be interesting to review this patch | 14:05 |
| slaweq | hello | 14:05 |
| slaweq | sorry for late | 14:05 |
| davidsha | Hi | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | hi, we were waiting for you | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | just you, davidsha and me | 14:06 |
| slaweq | ok :) | 14:06 |
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| ralonsoh | Second RFE | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1644369 | 14:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1644369 in neutron "Support for DSCP marking in Linuxbridge L2 agent" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | Merged!! | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | Congrats | 14:06 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:06 |
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| ralonsoh | Very fast | 14:06 |
| davidsha | I was looking at the spec but I was waiting for it to be moved from Ocata to Pike | 14:06 |
| slaweq | I was even supprised how fast it goes :) | 14:07 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha: yu are talking bout the DSCP patch? | 14:07 |
| ralonsoh | spec | 14:07 |
| davidsha | 802.1p | 14:07 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 14:07 |
| ralonsoh | ok, so let's follow this spec and let's review it | 14:08 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392023/ | 14:08 |
| slaweq | about this dscp and LB, I think it could be quite similar for sr-iov but I don't know sr-iov so I'm not sure about that | 14:08 |
| davidsha | If I recall ip link could modify the ToS field but it was only for certain types of traffic | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | Yes, I'll create a bug for DSCP and SRIOV | 14:09 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll investigate this | 14:09 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: thx | 14:09 |
| slaweq | I don't know sr-iov and I don't have dev environment to check it | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | That maybe will depend on the specific driver | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | I'll check this | 14:09 |
| ralonsoh | Next RFE | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 14:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | Very easy | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | 1) Spec | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/ | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | We need to have this spec approved | 14:10 |
| ralonsoh | And first patch | 14:11 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401254/ | 14:11 |
| ralonsoh | Please, I need reviews!! | 14:11 |
| davidsha | I'll look at both asap | 14:11 |
| slaweq | about this specs I had some doubts about that | 14:11 |
| ralonsoh | Ok, I'll try to ping ajo later | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | Why? | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | Which doubts? | 14:12 |
| slaweq | for example what with live-migration? | 14:12 |
| slaweq | or updating rule which is already applied on some port | 14:12 |
| ralonsoh | live-migration: it will depends on the hardware availability | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | on the second compute node | 14:13 |
| ralonsoh | If you spawn new VM's on a new node, you'll update nova scheduler database | 14:13 |
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| slaweq | ok, what about update rule? | 14:14 |
| slaweq | let's say I have 10 vms, each with 10Mbps limit | 14:14 |
| ralonsoh | That's considered, please review the patch | 14:14 |
| ralonsoh | continue, please | 14:14 |
| slaweq | ok, I will check it again | 14:14 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:14 |
| ralonsoh | no no, continue | 14:14 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:14 |
| ralonsoh | I see were are you going.... | 14:15 |
| slaweq | so, then what if You will update to 20Mbps in rule? | 14:15 |
| ralonsoh | Yes | 14:15 |
| slaweq | You will have overall not 100Mbps but 200Mbps | 14:15 |
| slaweq | and it can be too much on host | 14:15 |
| ralonsoh | one option: to cancel this rule update | 14:15 |
| ralonsoh | this information is in the qos extension | 14:16 |
| ralonsoh | so if you extend the needed bw beyond the maximun available, there should be an error | 14:16 |
| ralonsoh | that makes sense? | 14:16 |
| slaweq | ok, maybe I didn't read it all, but will qos extension know about overall available/used bandwidth on host? | 14:16 |
| ralonsoh | qos extension will | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | 1) read the initial bw | 14:17 |
| slaweq | isn't it in Nova? | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | 2) update this info | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | 3) inform nova | 14:17 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:17 |
| slaweq | so forbid update can be some option | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | but, that's my design. And I need ajo to review this! | 14:17 |
| ralonsoh | ok, let's move to bugs | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | anything else? | 14:18 |
| slaweq | but I'm not sure if it will not be related to "improved validation" patch | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | hmmmm | 14:18 |
| slaweq | and this ajo's patch to refactor notifications | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | I need to review both patches | 14:19 |
| slaweq | what in case if You will have port without qos policy already on host and will do "port update" to add such QoS? | 14:19 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 14:19 |
| slaweq | it should be also forbiden in such case | 14:19 |
| slaweq | so it can be quite hard to do now :/ | 14:19 |
| ralonsoh | why? | 14:19 |
| slaweq | maybe not hard from technical point of view | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | if the needed bw doesn't exceed the available bw | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | it's ok | 14:20 |
| slaweq | but it's similar problem like this "improved validation" | 14:20 |
| slaweq | please talk with ajo about that | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | sure! | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 14:20 |
| ralonsoh | let's continue | 14:21 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 14:21 |
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| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649503 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649503 in neutron "Mechanism driver can't be notified with updated network" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 14:21 |
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| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410101/ | 14:21 |
| ralonsoh | armax move the priotity to high | 14:22 |
| ralonsoh | so we should take care of this one | 14:22 |
| ralonsoh | we should review the patch | 14:22 |
| slaweq | ok, I will also try to review it | 14:22 |
| slaweq | it's not big patch :) | 14:22 |
| ralonsoh | no, it isn't | 14:22 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 14:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,New] | 14:23 |
| ralonsoh | feedback from ajo | 14:23 |
| slaweq | I talked with ajo about it yesterday | 14:23 |
| ralonsoh | "to close as opinion" | 14:23 |
| slaweq | yep, ajo said that it's not a bug but feature :) | 14:23 |
| slaweq | but personally I think that it could be something like "network_qos_policy" and "qos_policy" (or port_qos_policy) in port details | 14:24 |
| slaweq | to distinquish easily which policy is used on port | 14:24 |
| ralonsoh | yes, I have the same opinion | 14:24 |
| slaweq | what You think? | 14:24 |
| ralonsoh | but the author should open it as a RFE | 14:25 |
| slaweq | yep | 14:25 |
| ralonsoh | let's wait for the author response | 14:25 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:25 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649503 | 14:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649503 in neutron "Mechanism driver can't be notified with updated network" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 14:25 |
| ralonsoh | sorry | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | my fault | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649488 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649488 in neutron "Duplicated revises_on_change in qos models" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | patch in https://review.openstack.org/410065 | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | Ok, I see now it's almost merged | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | Next one | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1646370 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1646370 in neutron "QosPolicyInUse after notifying the removal to backends" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405448/ | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | let's wait for ajo feedback... | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | but we should review it | 14:27 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640762 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640762 in neutron "when I update a Qos policy, value of shared can not be changed to false from true" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:28 |
| ralonsoh | Still waiting for author feedback... | 14:28 |
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| slaweq | yep, and I couldn't reproduce it | 14:28 |
| ralonsoh | ok, so no action now | 14:28 |
| slaweq | yes | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | ok, last one | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639186 | 14:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Luis Tomas Bolivar (ltomasbo) | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | That's a difficult one | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | qos on trunk ports | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | and I don't see a solution to fix the solution proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397788/ | 14:30 |
| ralonsoh | It's easy to use veth ports to connect bridges | 14:30 |
| ralonsoh | but the performance drops a lot | 14:30 |
| ralonsoh | and it's not useful for user space ovs | 14:31 |
| slaweq | yep, there is nothing new here since last meeting | 14:31 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll ask in launchpad if there is any movement on this | 14:31 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | Ok, any other bug not listed?? | 14:32 |
| slaweq | I don't have anything new | 14:32 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 14:32 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Other Changes | 14:32 |
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| ralonsoh | there is nothing in the agenda for this | 14:32 |
| ralonsoh | any comment? | 14:33 |
| slaweq | it's not related to QoS but can You have a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409432/6 ? | 14:33 |
| slaweq | thx in advance | 14:33 |
| ralonsoh | Yes, of course. I'll put this in my todo list for today | 14:33 |
| slaweq | thx a lot | 14:33 |
| davidsha | Same | 14:33 |
| slaweq | thx davidsha | 14:34 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 14:34 |
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| ralonsoh | OSC: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352477/ | 14:34 |
| ralonsoh | This is for ajo and dtroyer | 14:34 |
| ralonsoh | It's been a while since I uploaded the first version | 14:34 |
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| ralonsoh | Open question: how can a developer speed up the reviews of his patches? | 14:35 |
| slaweq | IMHO ask on IRC, and try to ask specified people and ask for review | 14:36 |
| slaweq | from my experience it helps :) | 14:36 |
| davidsha | I agree IRC. | 14:36 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, but I still have patches submitted nine months ago | 14:36 |
| * ajo is around now, reads the backlog | 14:36 | |
| ralonsoh | we are almost finish | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | sorry | 14:37 |
| ajo | ack :) | 14:37 |
| ajo | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405448/ I must change a testing detail and it's done, I was pulled out to do something else, but I finished it now. | 14:37 |
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| ralonsoh | cool | 14:37 |
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| ralonsoh | slaweq, davidsha | 14:38 |
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| ralonsoh | do you mind if I ask ajo now about #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 14:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:38 |
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| davidsha | go ahead | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | The spec, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396297/ | 14:38 |
| ralonsoh | ajo, Can you continue with the spec? | 14:39 |
| ralonsoh | ajo: and please, take a look at #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401254/ | 14:39 |
| ralonsoh | that's all | 14:39 |
| ajo | I think the spec is done, | 14:39 |
| ajo | I probably should answer yamamoto's question | 14:39 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 14:40 |
| ajo | which I don't fully understand | 14:40 |
| ralonsoh | me neither... | 14:40 |
| ajo | may be I should try to answer the question on the spec itself by making it more clear | 14:40 |
| ralonsoh | no, I do | 14:40 |
| slaweq | but we was talking here that it can be related to Your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/ and "improved validation" | 14:40 |
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| ralonsoh | this one too! | 14:41 |
| slaweq | in case if e.g. port will be updated and new qos with strict min bw limit will be set for it | 14:41 |
| ajo | yeah, that one I must definitely continue working on it | 14:41 |
| ajo | I restarted it yesterday night | 14:41 |
| ajo | and I must send another PS between today and tomorrow | 14:41 |
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| slaweq | :) | 14:41 |
| ajo | sorry :/ I'm being the bottleneck | 14:42 |
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| ralonsoh | no problem, ask for help if you need it | 14:42 |
| ajo | I'll ping you for reviews on new PS for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396651/ , it's almost ready | 14:43 |
| slaweq | yeah, I can help also :) | 14:43 |
| ajo | thank you ralonsoh slaweq , If I see myself stopped again I will ping you | 14:43 |
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| ralonsoh | This, this patch should be merged ASAP | 14:43 |
| ajo | yes | 14:43 |
| slaweq | or we will ping You :P | 14:43 |
| ralonsoh | hehehe | 14:44 |
| ralonsoh | more topics? | 14:44 |
| ajo | :D | 14:44 |
| ajo | slaweq ralonsoh thanks ':D | 14:44 |
| ajo | slaweq ping or punch? :D | 14:44 |
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| ralonsoh | second option! | 14:44 |
| slaweq | ajo: we will see ;) | 14:44 |
| ajo | CTCP punch | 14:44 |
| * ajo makes irc protocol jokes, and thinks he's old now | 14:45 | |
| slaweq | :) | 14:45 |
| ralonsoh | ok guys, I'll close the meeting | 14:45 |
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| ralonsoh | see you around! | 14:45 |
| ajo | Thank you very much ralonsoh & slaweq | 14:45 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:45 |
| davidsha | Thanks ralonsoh, see ya! | 14:45 |
| ajo | I'll read the log right away | 14:45 |
| slaweq | ajo: and davidsha | 14:45 |
| ajo | and davidsha :D | 14:45 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:45 |
| slaweq | see You | 14:45 |
| ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 14:46:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-12-14-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-12-14-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2016/neutron_qos.2016-12-14-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 15:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
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| dirk | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday December 14 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Grafana - meeting with Raintank | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Reviews: | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408813/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Log API future for reads | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Can we uncap python-kafka ? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108436.html | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 5.New version numbers for Java components https://review.openstack.org/#/q/projects:openstack/monasca+topic:version | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 6.Ocata 2 Milestone: 15 Dec | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 7.Adding Promethues features to Monasca | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.PromQL | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Alarms and notifications | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://prometheus.io/docs/alerting/alertmanager/ | 15:00 |
| dhague | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Grouping Alerts | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Alarm inhibition | 15:00 |
| kamil | o/ | 15:00 |
| koji | o/ | 15:00 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:00 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | hi everyone | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | looks like a good agenda today | 15:00 |
| stevejims | hi all | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | and we have a number of people here which is great | 15:01 |
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| rhochmuth | i'll probably be out the next two weeks though | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | so, for next week, unless i'm at home at 8:00 AM doing nothing, i probably won't attend | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | but, you can never rule me out | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | so, someone else should start the meeting next week | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | so, let's go through the agenda | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Grafana - meeting with Raintank | 15:02 |
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| rbak | That's me | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: is that u | 15:02 |
| rbak | Anyone who asked to be on last weeks email to Raintank may have already seen this | 15:03 |
| rbak | But we've setup a meeting with them for anyone who wants to attend. | 15:03 |
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| rbak | It's at 1630 UTC, so half an hour after this meeting ends | 15:03 |
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| witek | where? | 15:03 |
| rbak | I don't have the link for the the meeting yet but it should be in the email and I'll post it here once I have it. | 15:04 |
| rbak | They said they would send one out to us. | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/raintank.io/openstack?hceid=ZHV0dEByYWludGFuay5pbw.pt93p3n8dpqq55i410e81c3aks | 15:04 |
| dhague | Here's the link for the meeting: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/raintank.io/openstack?hceid=ZHV0dEByYWludGFuay5pbw.pt93p3n8dpqq55i410e81c3aks | 15:04 |
| rbak | Great, thanks | 15:04 |
| rbak | That's all I had. Anyone is welcome to attend who wants to talk with them about Grafana. | 15:05 |
| dhague | One thing to mention up front: | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | dhague: are we going to try and keep the kubernetes meeting after this meeting | 15:06 |
| dhague | They seem to be of the mindset that openstack support will be a support burden for which they are looking for subscriptions from users (i.e. us), instead of seeing it as a contribution from us which will help their product | 15:06 |
| dhague | So we may have some perusading to do, or at least compromising. | 15:06 |
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| rbak | Good point. | 15:07 |
| rbak | I'll add that they've started talking to Charter again, so I wouldn't get hopes up but we might be able to offer some leverage there. | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | yes, they are a business | 15:07 |
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| bklei | o\ | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | so, let's see what they say later today | 15:08 |
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| rhochmuth | dhague: are we still trying to meet after this meeting? | 15:09 |
| dhague | rhochmuth: about the k8s meeting, jobrs rescheduled it for next week to avoid conflicts, but we could also move it to the new year if that's more convenient | 15:09 |
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| stevejims | If there is still resistance, would it be worth suggesting a plugin-style approach, and maintain a plugin outside grafana? | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | thanks dhague | 15:09 |
| rbak | stevejims: I think they're thinking pluggable auth would be a good idea. | 15:09 |
| dhague | stevejims: that would be great, except that Go doesn't really do plugins nicely | 15:10 |
| stevejims | Ok, that's good | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | not sure i wanted hoppal to have to wait that long, as he is in the midst of developign his plugin | 15:10 |
| rbak | Right, so I don't know how they're planning on doing the pluggable auth. | 15:10 |
| rbak | We'll see what they say in the meeting. | 15:10 |
| hoppalm | I can do whenever works for everyone else | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | but as far as i'm concerned to the new year is fine with me | 15:11 |
| stevejims | Sounds good | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | split brain | 15:11 |
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| dhague | rhochmuth hoppalm: ok, I'll get jobrs to push it to the new year | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | ok, sorry for the change in plans, was hoping to resolve this | 15:12 |
| dhague | summary: prometheus mtg in new year, grafana meeting in 1:15 from now | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | hoppal's promethues and kubernetes plugins are up for review if you have some comments | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | correct | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | dhague | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | #topic review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408813/ | 15:13 |
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| rbak | Also mine. | 15:13 |
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| rbak | Just wanted to get some eyes on. | 15:13 |
| rbak | It's been up for a week and only one comment. | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | looks like craig has +1'd | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | and bklei | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'm assuming ready to go | 15:14 |
| rbak | It's a pretty simple patch | 15:14 |
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| rhochmuth | if anyone else want to take a quick look and merge that would be great | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | or add comments as appropriate | 15:15 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Log API future for reads | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Log API future for reads (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:15 | |
| stevejims | This was my addition | 15:15 |
| stevejims | I was hoping to raise the topic of the future of the log API | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | hi stevejms, welcome to the monasca meeting | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | does anyone want to take a crack at this one? | 15:16 |
| stevejims | Hi, thanks | 15:16 |
| witek | we thought of doing this, but for now decided to implement multi-tenancy in Kibana plugin | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | if not, i can | 15:16 |
| stevejims | We have looked at the Kibana plugin but it looks like the MT was reverted? | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | so, obviousely we would like to see this added | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | it isn't trivial | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | do to the prioritues and resources we don't have any immediate plans to add support for reading logs from the log api | 15:17 |
| witek | we are in the process of adding this to devstack plugin | 15:18 |
| witek | https://github.com/FujitsuEnablingSoftwareTechnologyGmbH/fts-keystone/tree/multitenancy | 15:18 |
| witek | the plan is: | 15:19 |
| witek | * update tempest tests for logs | 15:19 |
| witek | * create new repo for plugin | 15:19 |
| witek | * include in devstack-plugin | 15:19 |
| stevejims | Sounds promising - Would be there be interest in proposals for an API, if we (I) could put some time into it? | 15:20 |
| stevejims | The use case would be allowing logs to be displayed in Grafana, so quite focused | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | i think the answer is yes, we are always interested in developers becoming involved with the project | 15:21 |
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| rhochmuth | but, we also need to coordinate | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | witek? | 15:21 |
| witek | sure | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | Also, I want to mention, if we ever get to adding reads to the log api, we would want to look at the Searchlight for code reuse/inspiration… | 15:22 |
| witek | we can work together on API proposal | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | Searchlight has an api for quierying ES, that handle multi-tenancy, filtering of in/out bound queries, and making sure that queries are secure | 15:23 |
| stevejims | Sounds good - happy to coordinate on a proposal | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | stevejims: so my suggestion would be to submit a blueprint first | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | along with some API proposals | 15:23 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm wondering if we want to try and use storyboard for something like this, rather than launchpad | 15:24 |
| witek | good idea | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | then we can review either in weekly meetings or in a separate time/place | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | witek: storyboard? | 15:24 |
| stevejims | Sure | 15:24 |
| witek | yes | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | stevejims: are you familiar with storyboard? | 15:25 |
| stevejims | Afraid not but can get familiar | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/page/about | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | we need to add a monasca project to it i think | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | hopefully that isn't hard | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | so let's close on this for now | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | i'll assume we'll give storyboard a try | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | stevejims, looks like you have approval to get started on a proposal and review with the team | 15:27 |
| stevejims | OK grand - thanks all | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | where do you work, btw? | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Can we uncap python-kafka | 15:28 |
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| rhochmuth | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108436.html | 15:28 |
| witek | I have put that one | 15:28 |
| stevejims | Company is called StackHPC, we primarily do consulting work for Cambridge University on OpenStack | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | cool, thanks | 15:29 |
| witek | there is some pressure from requirements team and oslo.messaging to uncap python-kafka | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | my understanding after talking to joe about this is that it isn't a great situation | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | they want to bump the kafka library to the latest one | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | however, it only supports async | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | there is a SimpleConsumer, that is depreated in the library, that they want us to move to | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | but, there are a number of issues outstanding in SimpleConsumer too | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | i guess there is a SimpleProducer too | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | i would like to free the openstack oslo folks up too | 15:31 |
| rhochmuth | but, this change puts us in a potentially bad situation | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | as an alternative, we were thinking about moving to the confluent library | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | then we could get out of everyone's way | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | thoughts? | 15:33 |
| witek | confluent is not in global-requirements though, right? | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | right | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | we would have to get that added first | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | then we could move | 15:34 |
| witek | do they support sync? | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | i don't think so, but i'm not positive | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | so, it isn't exactly a trivial change | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | joe is out for the rest of the year i believe | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | so, i can't check with him | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | is there anything else to discuss on this right now | 15:37 |
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| witek | ok, thanks for explaining, it seems complicated at that point | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | yes, it is | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | so, let's get back to this issue in the new year | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | #topic New version numbers for Java components | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/projects:openstack/monasca+topic:version | 15:38 |
| witek | could we bump the version numbers of Java components? | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | sure | 15:39 |
| bklei | ok by us at charter | 15:39 |
| witek | the tests should be passing if we merge in a right sequence | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | so, if you want to shepherd it through that would be great | 15:39 |
| rhochmuth | monasca-common needs to go first i guess | 15:40 |
| witek | yes | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i guess feel free to +2 | 15:41 |
| witek | then thresh and persister | 15:41 |
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| rhochmuth | right | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Ocata 2 Milestone: 15 Dec | 15:42 |
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| witek | just a reminder | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | omg | 15:42 |
| witek | :) | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | already | 15:42 |
| witek | I'll create tags | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | sounds great | 15:43 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Adding Promethues features to Monasca | 15:44 |
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| rhochmuth | this is my topic | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | just wondering if anyone else had any thoughts or ideas on this | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | i have a little prometheus envy lately | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | but, at the same time, i think we have some compelling features, functionality and architecture with monasca | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | the prometheus community is starting to look at areas like scale, clustering, monitoring-as-a-service | 15:46 |
| dhague | it seems like everybody is getting in on the alerting act: prometheus, ceilometer, grafana, ... | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | yes, there is a huge amount of overlap | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | anyway, i'm looking at this area a bit, and trying to understand what could be or should be done | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | just wanted to mention that | 15:48 |
| jamesgu | leverage ro replacement? | 15:48 |
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| jamesgu | or | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | i think understand first | 15:49 |
| dhague | we have a working student who is doing his thesis on monitoring our "converged cloud" openstack-on-kubernetes setup. His report should be available early in the new year, and hopefully we can share it here. It covers prometheus and monasca, among other things | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | my first thought is to try and add features to monasca to remain parity | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | thanks dhague | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | i also did a comparison, but unfortunatly on the internal wiki | 15:49 |
| notq | a diff of the features would be useful. | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll try and get that published on the monasca public wiki | 15:50 |
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| stevejims | When I have talked to people about Prometheus the thing they like the most is the simple nature of it, but that is also it's biggest issue (scalability) | 15:50 |
| jamesgu | thanks rhochmuth | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | i was going to mention that there are two companies, weaveworks and digitalocean that have leverage promethues | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | https://github.com/digitalocean/vulcan | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | https://github.com/weaveworks/cortex | 15:51 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, enough on that topic | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | #topic open floor | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | i guess no other topics | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'll end the meeting | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 15:55 |
| dhague | thanks | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | see some of you in a few minutes | 15:55 |
| witek | thanks | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 15:55:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-12-14-15.00.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-12-14-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2016/monasca.2016-12-14-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting defcore | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 16:01:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 16:01 |
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| eglute | Hello Everyone! | 16:01 |
| shamail | hi! | 16:01 |
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| eglute | hogepodge is traveling today, so he will miss this meeting | 16:01 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | and markvoelker might be able to join us late | 16:02 |
| luzC | o/ | 16:02 |
| * markvoelker just walked in | 16:02 | |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 16:03 | |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.6 | 16:03 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker | 16:03 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 16:03 |
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| eglute | I added an easy item to the top of the agenda | 16:03 |
| eglute | is everyone planning on attending meeting next week? | 16:04 |
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| markvoelker | btw eglute: the meeting name should be interopwg instead of defcore now. =) | 16:04 |
| eglute | since it is a few days before Christmas | 16:04 |
| eglute | markvoelker should i end this and start again | 16:04 |
| Rockyg | good chance I won't make it | 16:04 |
| shamail | I will be out next week | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | Hmm...wouldn't hurt since we haven't really started beyond the first item yet I guess. | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | Hard to retrain muscle memory. =) | 16:05 |
| shamail | eglute: +1, this will ensure this meeting isn’t in the archives but active | 16:05 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:05 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 16:05:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-12-14-16.01.html | 16:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-12-14-16.01.txt | 16:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-12-14-16.01.log.html | 16:05 |
| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 16:05:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:05 |
| markvoelker | thanks eglute | 16:05 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker | 16:05 |
| eglute | #topic next week | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "next week (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:06 | |
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| catherineD | I won't be able to attned next week meeting | 16:06 |
| shamail | I will not be able to meetings until 1/4 | 16:06 |
| eglute | #link beginning of this meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-12-14-16.01.html | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | I'll be able to make the meeting next week, but sounds like I'll be in the minority... | 16:06 |
| eglute | i can make it as well, but we might not have quorum | 16:07 |
| luzC | I'll be out until 1/4 | 16:07 |
| eglute | and the 28th is out as as well | 16:07 |
| gema | o/ | 16:07 |
| gema | I am out until the 9th of Jan :D | 16:07 |
| eglute | luzC are you back on 1/4? | 16:07 |
| gema | but I will come to the meeting if you guys have it on the 4th or so | 16:07 |
| eglute | I think we should try have a meeting on 1/4 | 16:08 |
| gema | +1 | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | eglute: ++ for 1/4 | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | We need to finish up the 2017.01 guideline, so I think it's important. | 16:08 |
| eglute | ok, that is settled then, next meeting on 1/4 | 16:08 |
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| eglute | other comments? | 16:08 |
| eglute | #topic PTG | 16:09 |
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| markvoelker | #info No meetings for the rest of December. Meetings resume 1/4/2017. | 16:09 |
| eglute | just a reminder, that we have space at PTG | 16:09 |
| eglute | please start adding topics to #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWGAtlantaPTG | 16:09 |
| luzC | eglute yes | 16:09 |
| garloff | thanks, @markv | 16:09 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.01 guideline | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2017.01 guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:10 | |
| eglute | shamail thanks for submitting cinder patch | 16:10 |
| shamail | You’re welcome | 16:11 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:11 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408427/ | 16:11 |
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| Rockyg | it gets easier the more you do ;) | 16:11 |
| eglute | i looked at scoring, looked like the new capabilities didnt get scored high enough | 16:11 |
| eglute | to be added | 16:11 |
| shamail | As you mentioned in the review, none of the capabilities scored high enough to be actually considered advisory but I added them based on the conversations | 16:11 |
| markvoelker | eglute: that was my take when I looked at it this morning too | 16:11 |
| shamail | v3 currently is not used in SDKs or tools | 16:11 |
| shamail | so that gives it a major ding | 16:12 |
| Rockyg | advisory might get the sdk project to start implementing code with them ;-) | 16:12 |
| eglute | if they are not scored high enough we can't add them i dont think | 16:12 |
| markvoelker | So this is one of those API-transition periods, really | 16:13 |
| shamail | volumes-list-api-versions doesn’t qualify either and this one has another issue, there is no tempest test | 16:13 |
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| markvoelker | E.g. if we take "future direction" away from the v2's, some of them wouldn't make the cutoff either. | 16:13 |
| shamail | I had to add “tempest.api.volume.NEED_TEST” to make sure the json doesn’t break | 16:13 |
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| markvoelker | But v3 is basically v2 plus microversions | 16:13 |
| eglute | also, "complete" also was not set | 16:13 |
| shamail | markvoelker: +1 | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | So tools that work with v2 work with v3 too for the most part | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | (they just have to actually call the v3 endpoint) | 16:14 |
| eglute | so would it be worth re-scoring them with tools set to 1? | 16:14 |
| garloff | markvoelker: which they get from the catalog, so they may not even notice ... | 16:14 |
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| eglute | garloff that is a good point | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | garloff: well, some do, some don't. =) | 16:15 |
| shamail | exactly markvoelker | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Some are manually configured | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | To me it feels like a reasonable transition here is to make these advisory now so people are aware of the transition to v3. We can decide in the next Guideline whether they're really ready to become required | 16:16 |
| eglute | markvoelker +1 | 16:16 |
| eglute | would be good to make that note somewhere | 16:16 |
| eglute | so that we need to re-score them before making them required | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | I think we'd also discussed leaving a comment/note in the Guideline somewhere explaining the v2/v3 transition | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | (that could also be published somewhere in more detail and more plain-English-y like on the interop webpage) | 16:17 |
| shamail | That sounds reasonable | 16:17 |
| eglute | does schema allow for notes? | 16:17 |
| garloff | markvoelker: I would expect all tools to use the catalog for discovery -- would be more concerned about tools that check for known versions and error out if they find an unexpected one | 16:17 |
| * garloff is wondering why the switch to microversions can not be done without v2->v3 transition | 16:18 | |
| markvoelker | eglute: yes, we just have to be a bit creative | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | e.g. the Guidance section of designated sections, or the capability names, or.... | 16:18 |
| Rockyg | markvoelker, I agree we need to signal to dev the need to advance. We might also want to start a ml thread and/or blog post? | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | er, description field, not name field. But you get the point. | 16:19 |
| eglute | #action shamail markvoelker to get creative and leave notes on cinder about v3 | 16:19 |
| shamail | Thx | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | garloff: well, unfortunately reality is that the endpoints are manually configured in some cases. E.g. devs have a config entry for their tool to set endpoints. | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | shamail: I'd suggest we use the "description" field for the time being. So for example: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/2016.08.json#L420 | 16:21 |
| * garloff imagines a customer entering 20 endpoints for an installation that includes some of the BigTent projects ... | 16:21 | |
| shamail | Sounds good markvoelker, I’ll add a note to the scoring results and update the description to highlight the transitory nature. | 16:22 |
| eglute | thank you shamail! | 16:22 |
| eglute | anything else on cinder? | 16:22 |
| markvoelker | garloff: I've literally seen it done. =) But usually those sorts of things are only dealing with a few operations and don't need to touch 20 projects (in my experience anyway). Painful, but there it is... | 16:23 |
| eglute | in that case moving on to swift | 16:23 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398428/ | 16:23 |
| eglute | i updated the scoring based on markvoelker comments | 16:23 |
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| eglute | objectstore-container-metadata is used by both fog and jclouds as far as i could tell | 16:24 |
| markvoelker | eglute: I haven't looked at it since the new patchsets went up last night, but will do today | 16:24 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker | 16:24 |
| eglute | everyone, would appreciate your feedback | 16:25 |
| eglute | right now, we are looking to add 2 new capabilities to swift as advisory | 16:25 |
| eglute | objectstore-info-reques and objectstore-container-metadata | 16:25 |
| eglute | any comments/questions on swift? | 16:26 |
| eglute | in that case, onto nova! | 16:26 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385781/ | 16:26 |
| eglute | thanks shamail | 16:26 |
| eglute | shamail i have not looked at the new patch yet | 16:26 |
| shamail | Moved capabilities to advisory, fixed the HEAD lines that got mixed in there | 16:27 |
| eglute | but looks like we are adding 3 new advisory | 16:27 |
| eglute | shamail i think you need to remove deprecated nova parts as well | 16:27 |
| shamail | Adding two news ones and one that was there at some point but vanished | 16:27 |
| shamail | "compute-auth-create", "compute-auth-get"? | 16:28 |
| shamail | etc. | 16:28 |
| shamail | eglute: Remove the ones that were already listed as depreciated in next.json? | 16:28 |
| eglute | move deprecated to removed, remove removed | 16:29 |
| eglute | does that make sense? | 16:29 |
| shamail | Sure does | 16:30 |
| garloff | sounds logical to me | 16:30 |
| eglute | thank you shamail! also commented on the patch | 16:30 |
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| shamail | thanks! | 16:31 |
| eglute | otherwise it looks good, 3 new capabilities | 16:31 |
| eglute | any other comments or questions on nova? | 16:31 |
| eglute | if not, looks like we covered everything for 2017.01 guideline that was outstanding | 16:32 |
| eglute | any other comments on the guideline? | 16:32 |
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| eglute | #name change | 16:33 |
| eglute | thanks everyone who worked on the name change! | 16:33 |
| eglute | hopefully everyone subscribed to the new mailing list | 16:33 |
| eglute | if not, please do so! | 16:33 |
| eglute | #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/interop-wg | 16:33 |
| eglute | #action everyone subscribe to the new mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/interop-wg | 16:34 |
| eglute | and i think everyone here already joined the new irc channel | 16:34 |
| * markvoelker thinks it's time to remove the old one now | 16:34 | |
| eglute | markvoelker any ideas how to remove it? | 16:35 |
| markvoelker | eglute: yeah, I can handle that | 16:35 |
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| eglute | cool, thank you markvoelker | 16:35 |
| eglute | how about github repo? | 16:36 |
| eglute | how can we rename that? is there a process? | 16:36 |
| markvoelker | eglute: I suggest we finish off 2017.01 before we do that. Otherwise we'll have a bit of a mess with in-flight scoring patches | 16:36 |
| eglute | markvoelker oh good point | 16:37 |
| eglute | #action move github repo after 2017.01 passes | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:37 |
| eglute | markvoelker you still have a couple outstanding writing things for rename, but no rush on that unless you are already done | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | and yes, the process is to submit a patch to infra. | 16:38 |
| eglute | thanks Rockyg | 16:38 |
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| markvoelker | eglute: I'm close. =) Probably next week. | 16:38 |
| eglute | anything else on the renames? | 16:38 |
| eglute | thank you markvoelker! | 16:39 |
| eglute | #topic Documenting how projects can become part of Guidelines | 16:39 |
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| eglute | markvoelker is this also next week/after holidays? | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Probably after the holidays. It's on the backburner in favor of the rename and 2017.01 stuff | 16:40 |
| eglute | :) | 16:40 |
| eglute | sounds good to me | 16:40 |
| eglute | #topic update co-chair election process | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update co-chair election process (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:40 | |
| eglute | At the beginning of the year i submitted a patch on co-chair election process that was less than ideal | 16:41 |
| eglute | #link https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/16668dddea39725088040fdef5404a656b24a606/doc/source/process/2016A.rst#guidelines-review-phase-b | 16:41 |
| eglute | regarding timing and how the elections happen | 16:41 |
| eglute | for B4.5: "One DefCore CoChair needs to be elected by DefCore working group. Election quorum is composed of attendees present during the election meeting." | 16:41 |
| eglute | this section needs to be changed to be a bit more vague | 16:42 |
| gema | eglute: isn't the usual process to do email elections? | 16:42 |
| eglute | gema correct | 16:42 |
| eglute | thats what we ended up doing | 16:42 |
| eglute | so that is why we need to change the process document | 16:43 |
| gema | then let's make it email election, it is fairer than being able to make it to a meeting, I think | 16:43 |
| Rockyg | Could use the definition of AUCs | 16:43 |
| eglute | i will try to submit a better patch | 16:43 |
| eglute | gema i agree | 16:43 |
| eglute | Rockyg do you have a link to that | 16:43 |
| * gema imagines Rockyg going through her email at the speed of light | 16:44 | |
| * eglute laughs | 16:44 | |
| shamail | http://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/charter.html (See the AUC section) | 16:44 |
| shamail | saved you some searching Rockyg! | 16:44 |
| Rockyg | Lol | 16:44 |
| gema | haha | 16:44 |
| eglute | well, in any case, i welcome all input on the election process. i will try to make it as close to the other OpenStack elections as possible | 16:45 |
| eglute | thank you shamail! | 16:45 |
| Rockyg | Thanks shamail ! Especially since he is one of the authors | 16:45 |
| shamail | you’re welcome Rockyg :) | 16:45 |
| gema | shamail: +1 | 16:46 |
| eglute | we still have one more topic, so lets move on to RefStack, since elections are not happening this year :) | 16:46 |
| eglute | #topic RefStack | 16:46 |
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| eglute | go ahead catherineD | 16:46 |
| catherineD | Thanks eglute: | 16:46 |
| catherineD | So the https://refstack.openstack.org/#/ was updated last Friday ... | 16:47 |
| catherineD | it now provide vendor/product registration process ... also allow Foundation admin to mark/unmark a test as verified | 16:47 |
| markvoelker | neat | 16:48 |
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| eglute | nice | 16:48 |
| catherineD | the vendor/product info at this first phase is only available privately ... so the users can have a look of how it will look like | 16:48 |
| catherineD | we will make those info pubilicly available sometime after the PTG | 16:49 |
| gema | catherineD: great! I will probably go through the process of registering us soon | 16:50 |
| catherineD | everyone please take a look ... and log comment, request, bug report in RefStacl launchpad | 16:50 |
| eglute | nice job RefStack team! thank you catherineD! | 16:50 |
| catherineD | gema: great thanks ... | 16:50 |
| catherineD | eglute: thank you I will let the RefStack team know | 16:51 |
| eglute | anything else catherineD? | 16:51 |
| eglute | :) | 16:51 |
| catherineD | pay attention to the https://refstack.openstack.org/#/user_results once you log in | 16:51 |
| eglute | ok! | 16:52 |
| catherineD | this is how the test record will look like on a verified test results | 16:52 |
| catherineD | that is all | 16:52 |
| Rockyg | kewl | 16:52 |
| eglute | thank you catherineD! | 16:52 |
| eglute | #topic open floor | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:52 | |
| eglute | anything else folks? | 16:52 |
| eglute | in that case, we can end early! | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | happy holidays everyone! See you in January.. | 16:53 |
| eglute | Everyone, please review outstanding patches | 16:53 |
| eglute | thank you for a great year! | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | (and in gerrit before then, right????) | 16:54 |
| eglute | right markvoelker! | 16:54 |
| catherineD | Happy holidays! | 16:54 |
| eglute | Happy Holidays everyone! | 16:54 |
| shamail | Thank you everyone, Happy Holidays! | 16:54 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 16:54:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| gema | happy holidays! | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2016/interopwg.2016-12-14-16.05.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2016/interopwg.2016-12-14-16.05.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2016/interopwg.2016-12-14-16.05.log.html | 16:55 |
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| Rockyg | happy holidays! | 16:58 |
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| ducttape_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 20:00:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is r1chardj0n3s. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | ducttape_ o/ | 20:00 |
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| lcastell | o/ | 20:01 |
| betherly | o/ | 20:01 |
| rhagarty | o/ | 20:01 |
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| rdopiera | o/ | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'll start off with the usual | 20:02 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Priority patches for review | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority patches for review (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:02 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:r1chardj0n3s%20AND%20status:open is the current set, please focus attention here if you can | 20:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | if you have anything you believe should be getting attention on the priority list please let me know | 20:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | We've got about four weeks until feature freeze for Ocata | 20:03 |
| ducttape_ | ediardo - did your css change for the overflow make it yet ? | 20:04 |
| ediardo | o/ | 20:04 |
| r1chardj0n3s | At this point, it looks like we're going to have a lot of trivial fix patches in. | 20:04 |
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| ducttape_ | that *might* be something to consider too | 20:04 |
| ediardo | NOpe.. | 20:05 |
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| ying_zuo | I have a blueprint accepted for ocata. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/launch-instance-volume-quotas | 20:05 |
| ducttape_ | k. might need to touch base with hurgleburgler again. that bug is not great. thanks ediardo | 20:05 |
| ying_zuo | Right now there's only one patchset. Should that be one the priority list? | 20:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ying_zuo: seems entirely reasonable to me! added :-) | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | Thanks Richard | 20:06 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ducttape_: I don't have any of your quotas work in the list - should I? | 20:06 |
| ediardo | this could be a "trivial fix": https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409753/ | 20:06 |
| ducttape_ | the one quota thing, you have in the list r1chardj0n3s. I'll talk w u after this meeting if avail | 20:07 |
| rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: I'd like some attention on that django config patch, if possible | 20:07 |
| ducttape_ | my other stuff is not ready | 20:07 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | ducttape_: ok | 20:07 |
| r1chardj0n3s | rdopiera: is it ready for review? | 20:08 |
| rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: yes | 20:08 |
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| rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404735/ | 20:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok, cool! could you please add the patchsets to a section in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ocata-priorities Ocata-2/3 | 20:08 |
| tsufiev | o/ | 20:08 |
| rdopiera | added | 20:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | just the one patch? ok :-) | 20:09 |
| rdopiera | r1chardj0n3s: there are some cleanup patches, but they are independent and not as important | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | righto, that's what confused me | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm easily confused ;-) | 20:10 |
| rdopiera | in fact, they all conflict with each other... | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so, in a related note | 20:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic swift ui-router update | 20:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "swift ui-router update (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:10 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | we have previously agreed that ui-router will be used where necessary for multi-level routing | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I've got the first patch up that uses it in the Swift UI | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | It's still a little WIP, but I'd like feedback now if possible | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350523 has a big UI change, so feedback would be nice | 20:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | in short, I nuked the containers sidebar and that's a pretty big change :-) | 20:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'd like to know whether I need to try to revert that before continuing work on it | 20:12 |
| * ducttape_ would like to see where containers go | 20:12 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | ducttape_: it's ok, to simplify things I just delete them all | 20:13 |
| ducttape_ | rm -rf /openstack is super simple | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | +2 +a | 20:13 |
| ducttape_ | ;) | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so, feedback on the patch would be really appreciated :-) | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | moving on | 20:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic bootstrap update | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bootstrap update (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:13 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | We're upgrading our xstatic angular-bootstrap this week! | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | This is going to break EVERYTHING!!! | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | well, except mitaka and newton | 20:14 |
| rdopiera | the end is near | 20:14 |
| rdopiera | repent | 20:14 |
| ediardo | damn | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but master will break, as will Ocata's beta1 and beta2 releases | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | we have a plan for minimising the breakage | 20:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | In short, once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409121/ merges the xstatic-angular-bootstrap 2.2.0.0 package will be released to pypi | 20:15 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | in openstack land, a patch to upper-constraints.txt will be automatically generated by the release of that file, pushing the pin "XStatic-Angular-Bootstrap===0.11.0.8" to "XStatic-Angular-Bootstrap===2.2.0.0" | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (yes, we're very, VERY out of date) | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | once that pin changes, all the Ocata Horizons will break | 20:16 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so we have a patch we're going to try to release as simlutaneously as possible | 20:17 |
| * ducttape_ thinks this is going to be very exciting in a terrible way | 20:17 | |
| tsufiev | Omg | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401245/ | 20:17 |
| tsufiev | Should it really make such a big step? | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that patch ain't perfect, but it does get Horizon working again | 20:17 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: the backward incompatible changes were introduced in angular-bootstrap 0.13 :-) | 20:18 |
| r1chardj0n3s | we've been out of date for a *very* long time | 20:18 |
| ducttape_ | as long as we are cut from any nearby milestone branches, lets forge ahead | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | I'll take a look at the patch again if you like | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | as I said, stable mitaka and newton *should* be unaffected by this, since we've put in a lot of effort to ensure they remain pinned to 0.11.0.8 | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | I actually thought it fixed most things | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: I saw some styling artifacts, that's all | 20:19 |
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| robcresswell | Oh I can do styling | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | Diana taught me | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | anyway, I don't want messing with that patch to delay it | 20:19 |
| r1chardj0n3s | once this meeting is over I'll get on to hassling the release team about getting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409121/ approved (I'm sure they have nothing better to do ;-) | 20:20 |
| r1chardj0n3s | making https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401245/ depends-on the upper-constraints.txt patch that follows https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409121/ should minimise our breakage | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | Sure | 20:21 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (especially if it's pre-approved and depends-on ...) | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | (I think I've solved microversions l support locally btw) | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | -l | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | One more thing, then microversions ;-) | 20:22 |
| rdopiera | invalid option -l | 20:22 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Integration tests are dead, long live integration tests! | 20:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Integration tests are dead, long live integration tests! (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:22 | |
| tsufiev | Amen | 20:22 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410489/ is where they went away | 20:23 |
| r1chardj0n3s | our task now is to get some new tempest suite tests added in a nice, orderly, well-thought-out manner | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | that doesn't sound like us | 20:24 |
| lcastell | :) | 20:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm hoping to see a BP that we can use to create an initial small set of tempest additions at high level checking basic panel existence/functionality | 20:25 |
| * r1chardj0n3s tags lcastell | 20:25 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | :-) | 20:25 |
| lcastell | o/ | 20:25 |
| * lcastell tags david-lyle | 20:25 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'd like to see breadth of tests, rather than depth... | 20:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (it'd be super nice for the new suite to even check the angular panels ;-) | 20:26 |
| * lcastell taking notes | 20:26 | |
| david-lyle | let's slow down on the unicorn farm | 20:26 |
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| david-lyle | we'll get some tests going :) | 20:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | dammit, you said there were plenty of unicorns! | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Unicorn farm? | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | speaking of unicorns | 20:27 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #topic Microversions | 20:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Microversions (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:27 | |
| * r1chardj0n3s tags robcresswell | 20:27 | |
| david-lyle | haha | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Sigh | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | So we finished the blueprint for this, amongst much raging | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | I've got a patch that should go up tomorrow that does it in the least bad way possible I think | 20:28 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | (so confident, much microversions, wow) | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | And I've asked rhagarty to hold fire on his implementation to save us both time | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | Someone else has also been implementing them in isolation and silence, but *shrug* | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Ha, I'm quite confident in the patch, the implementation is only about 80 lines | 20:30 |
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| robcresswell | I've used it for locked status on instances, and cinder consistency groups | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | As examples :) | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | That's all from me anyways | 20:31 |
| rhagarty | robcresswell: thanks for driving | 20:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/microversion-support is the BP, for reference | 20:31 |
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| robcresswell | Thanks r1chardj0n3s | 20:32 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I look forward to your patch robcresswell! | 20:32 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: on the xstatic front, I believe there's some compatibility work needed for D3 as well? | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Yeah, there is | 20:33 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | OK, I have someone to work on that then | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | Oh good | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | I was about to say, kinda losing motivation on doing all our updates | 20:34 |
| rdopiera | we should rotate that position | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | Would be nice if someone else could drive a couple :) | 20:34 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, I have helpers now though | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | Awesome | 20:35 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | that's all I have for the agenda today - does anyone have anything they'd like to bring up? | 20:35 |
| ying_zuo | robcresswell: are you working on something for the instance locked status? | 20:35 |
| ying_zuo | I also have a patch for it. | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | ying_zuo: Just adding proper microversion support :) | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | Well, consistent I should say | 20:36 |
| ying_zuo | I think that's what Cindy mentioned on the patch | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | It won't change the functionality, but might require a rebase depending on who merges first | 20:36 |
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| ying_zuo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331874/ | 20:37 |
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| ying_zuo | I think my patch will need to rebase to yours? | 20:37 |
| robcresswell | Ah right yes, the resulting work is in the blueprint r1chardj0n3s put up earlier | 20:37 |
| robcresswell | And my patch should go up tomorrow | 20:38 |
| tsufiev | I was about to ask if anyone thinks horizon needs profiling of angular pages, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358574/ | 20:38 |
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| ying_zuo | cool. thank you | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | tsufiev: That would be good | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | ying_zuo: No problem | 20:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: yes! thank you for reminding me of that patch! | 20:38 |
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| tsufiev | Because in terms of ui it may not provide a competitor to Chrome network profiler | 20:38 |
| r1chardj0n3s | cores, I'd really like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395873/ to not be in my sad patches list :-) | 20:39 |
| tsufiev | And on the other hand, angular api calls are usually very fine-grained | 20:39 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: but it can go deeper than Chrome, yeah? it can profile the services as well? | 20:39 |
| * rdopiera -1s it | 20:39 | |
| tsufiev | r1chardj0n3s: it can, but the UI as I said is inferior | 20:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | tsufiev: regardless of the inferiority of the UI, being able to see what's going on behind the server AJAX handler will be invaluable | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | I mean, it needs to be taught how to show async calls | 20:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | righto | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | Ok | 20:40 |
| tsufiev | I'll try to improve it a bit then ) | 20:41 |
| r1chardj0n3s | especially if we can see *why* the nova API call is taking 30 seconds to respod - all Chrome can tell us is that it does :-) | 20:41 |
| * r1chardj0n3s likes unicorns, please make more of them | 20:41 | |
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| tsufiev | Hmm, that would require support from the other part of profiling team | 20:42 |
| r1chardj0n3s | unicorns, dammit!! | 20:42 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | ;-) | 20:42 |
| rdopiera | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/1d/da/6b/1dda6b78a44783f963717043125e3da9.jpg | 20:43 |
| * robcresswell is still confused | 20:43 | |
| robcresswell | Fat deranged unicorn? | 20:43 |
| tsufiev | Bloated unicorn ) | 20:43 |
| rdopiera | it has thick bones | 20:43 |
| tsufiev | Like bloatware | 20:43 |
| hurgleburgler | \o/ | 20:43 |
| ducttape_ | husky | 20:44 |
| tsufiev | hurgleburgler: were you summoned by a unicorn ;)? | 20:44 |
| hurgleburgler | Apparently so | 20:44 |
| hurgleburgler | :-D | 20:44 |
| hurgleburgler | a fat deranged one. | 20:44 |
| robcresswell | That should be the Horizon logo | 20:44 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ok, if there's no other business, I'll let y'all get back to your reviewing | 20:44 |
| rdopiera | too late | 20:44 |
| r1chardj0n3s | robcresswell: omfg don't talk about the war | 20:45 |
| robcresswell | Lol | 20:45 |
| r1chardj0n3s | #endmeeting | 20:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 20:45:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-12-14-20.00.html | 20:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2016/horizon.2016-12-14-20.00.txt | 20:45 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 21:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| dansmith | ohai | 21:00 |
| dtp | hi | 21:00 |
| dansmith | dtp: do you not stay on irc all the time? I went looking for you this morning and you weren't in -nova | 21:00 |
| dtp | i try to keep it closed. i find #nova distracting | 21:00 |
| dtp | but it's not a big deal. i'll be on more | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| dansmith | dtp: embrace the chaos | 21:01 |
| dansmith | okay, | 21:01 |
| dansmith | #topic test/bugs | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "test/bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:01 | |
| dansmith | we had a bug this week when the tripleo people were trying to upgrade past the cell setup requirement | 21:02 |
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| dansmith | I have a patch up to fix one of the major issues: | 21:02 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409890/ | 21:02 |
| dansmith | which was creating the cell0 map, then failing doing the host mapping, | 21:02 |
| dansmith | which means that if you ran it again it would never re-do the latter bit because it assumed the cell0 map meant it was done | 21:02 |
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| dansmith | that, and we have some documentation stuff we need to suck less at | 21:03 |
| mriedem | HI! | 21:03 |
| dansmith | any other bug/testing stuff? | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so, on docs | 21:03 |
| mriedem | :) | 21:03 |
| mriedem | i was thinking an arch diagram might be nice | 21:03 |
| mriedem | given mgagne's questions about where the api db lives in cells v1 | 21:03 |
| dansmith | I'm sure you were | 21:03 |
| melwitt | +1 to arch diagram | 21:04 |
| dansmith | so, | 21:04 |
| dansmith | in this fantasy I have about writing a blog post for this, | 21:04 |
| dansmith | I had planned a series of diagrams going from "normal nova" to "cellsv2" | 21:04 |
| dansmith | so you can see which parts get added, where, and why | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i'm sure you were | 21:04 |
| melwitt | that sounds super | 21:05 |
| mriedem | +1 on super | 21:05 |
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| dansmith | anything else on this subject? | 21:05 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 21:06 |
| mriedem | naw | 21:06 |
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| dansmith | my megaseries has made some progress, but also grown more patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/367557/ | 21:06 |
| dansmith | unit and functional tests pass for me on the top patch, however, which is somewhat mind boggling | 21:06 |
| melwitt | that's sweet | 21:07 |
| dansmith | the bottom patch has a couple comments on an older PS that I could fix up | 21:07 |
| dansmith | but otherwise, several at the bottom there should be good for reviews | 21:07 |
| dansmith | I noticed that melwitt pushed up a couple things for quotas | 21:08 |
| dansmith | melwitt: it looked like those were just moving quotas to the api db.. did you decide against the counting plan? | 21:08 |
| melwitt | yeah, I have WIP on them as they have no tests yet. but it would be nice to get a sanity check on where I'm going | 21:08 |
| melwitt | no, counting is next and it's tied to a different spec | 21:08 |
| dansmith | I thought the point was to do the counting so we don't move them? | 21:08 |
| melwitt | we have to move limits and classes | 21:09 |
| melwitt | I didn't move usages or reservations | 21:09 |
| dansmith | okay, well, I haven't looked so I should shut up I guess | 21:09 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:09 |
| melwitt | so we have a minimal move needed to store quota limits and quota classes, even thought quota classes do nothing except handle the default quota | 21:10 |
| dansmith | yeah, I guess I forgot about having to move the settings separate from the records | 21:10 |
| mriedem | we could take the opportunity to kill quota classes, | 21:10 |
| melwitt | next will be ripping out all the usages, reservations stuff and replacing it with counting | 21:10 |
| mriedem | but it's probably a bit late for that right now | 21:10 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah I was just wondering if we could just fake that or something | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i had a ML post in newton about removing quota classes... | 21:11 |
| mriedem | but it's all dropped out of my brain by now | 21:11 |
| melwitt | yeah, that would involve a microversion on the API to take it out too right | 21:11 |
| mriedem | well, | 21:11 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure about that | 21:11 |
| mriedem | the api could still return the default quotas | 21:11 |
| dansmith | if it doesn't work, we just fake what we return right? | 21:11 |
| melwitt | the quota-class-sets that lets you create and update quota classes | 21:11 |
| dansmith | like "oh yeah, there are totally some classes, and here they are" | 21:12 |
| mriedem | i'd have to go back and look at the ML thread | 21:12 |
| dansmith | oh, I didn't think you could actually create them | 21:12 |
| mriedem | i think some of the problem was some of that shit was already busted | 21:12 |
| melwitt | oh yeah you can | 21:12 |
| melwitt | which sucks | 21:12 |
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| dansmith | so you can create them but they don't work? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099218.html | 21:13 |
| mriedem | " You can still create unique quota classes via the os-quota-class-sets API (it does a create if the update operation fails), but as far as I can tell you can't really use those in any meaningful way." | 21:13 |
| melwitt | yeah, I read through that thread before moving them because it wasn't clear to me what it would take to remove them | 21:14 |
| mriedem | "I think we should also add a microversion to the API in Ocata to disable the ability to create new quota classes, so that update is only update, and a 404 for anything else." | 21:14 |
| mriedem | so... | 21:14 |
| mriedem | we could just make update an update for default | 21:14 |
| mriedem | and that's it | 21:14 |
| mriedem | an update on a thing that doesn't exist is a 400 | 21:14 |
| mriedem | or 404 | 21:14 |
| mriedem | rather than update or create | 21:15 |
| melwitt | that means we still have to move them I guess, if update is possible? if someone already created some other classes in the past? or does that not matter because no class other than default does anything? | 21:15 |
| dansmith | or just not move those | 21:15 |
| dansmith | so that they all become 404 :) | 21:15 |
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| dansmith | if there's no way to really use this, are we just being silly by maintaining compatibility? | 21:15 |
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| melwitt | we have to move them if they do something, I just don't understand yet whether they do anything. the non default ones if someone created some | 21:15 |
| dansmith | compat is all well and good until you orchestrate a giant move of nothing from one database to another to ensure that a broken thing remains broken :/ | 21:16 |
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| melwitt | yeah, agreed. if existing non default quota classes don't do anything, then we won't have to move them | 21:16 |
| mriedem | Vek did provide the original concept http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099270.html | 21:16 |
| mriedem | you create a class with more or less quota, and apply that to a tenant | 21:16 |
| dansmith | so vek said he didn't care if it went away, and sdague said he'd be okay dropping it | 21:17 |
| mriedem | in practice i don't know of anyone that uses it | 21:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: but I thought it doesn't actually work for anything but default | 21:17 |
| dansmith | are you saying it does ? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | idk, would have to test it out | 21:17 |
| mriedem | like, | 21:18 |
| mriedem | maybe i can change global default quota to 1 instance per tenant, | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | but then create a custom quota class that allows 2 instances per tenant, and assign that to another tenant, and see if i can create >1 instance on it | 21:18 |
| melwitt | yeah. that would probably be a lot easier than trying to figure out from the code whether non default classes work | 21:18 |
| melwitt | because it's awesomely confusing | 21:19 |
| mriedem | so i'll take the todo to see you can actually use this today | 21:19 |
| dansmith | okay, so mriedem you're going to do that? | 21:19 |
| dansmith | cool | 21:19 |
| mriedem | i've got a fresh desvstack | 21:19 |
| mriedem | but yeah the quota classes stuff plumbed throughout the code makes everything harder to follow | 21:19 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:19 |
| dansmith | okay, moving on | 21:20 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to see if custom quota classes actually work | 21:20 |
| dansmith | dtp: did you push up a review? | 21:20 |
| dtp | not yet | 21:20 |
| dtp | but i have questions | 21:20 |
| dansmith | dtp: shoot | 21:20 |
| dtp | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/consoleauth/rpcapi.py#L92 | 21:20 |
| dtp | if i understand what i'm doing here - | 21:20 |
| dtp | i need to get the real data behind that token from memcache | 21:21 |
| dtp | so that i can get the instance_uuid | 21:21 |
| dtp | so is memcache somehow shared across all the cells? | 21:21 |
| dtp | otherwise, if we're running a separate cache in each cell | 21:22 |
| dtp | then i'll need to get to the cache to pull out of it, but i need the instance uuid to get to it | 21:22 |
| melwitt | yeah, I was thinking the memcache is global but I haven't actually used the tokens before | 21:22 |
| dansmith | well, | 21:22 |
| dansmith | it'd be good if that didn't matter | 21:23 |
| dansmith | so the problem is that we don't have the instance_uuid in the url for the console? | 21:23 |
| dtp | that is one idea. if i could get instance uuid passed, that would make things easier | 21:23 |
| dtp | or perhaps the only idea | 21:24 |
| dansmith | didn't we discuss adding the instance to the url already? | 21:24 |
| melwitt | argh, I had thought that was available on the client side but it isn't | 21:24 |
| dansmith | perhaps for a different problem | 21:24 |
| dansmith | yeah it's not | 21:24 |
| melwitt | what do you mean by add it to the url? | 21:24 |
| dansmith | the console url is something like /console/<token> or something right? | 21:25 |
| dtp | yes | 21:25 |
| dansmith | so if it was /console/<instanceuuid>/<token> | 21:25 |
| dansmith | then we'd have both | 21:25 |
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| melwitt | like the rest api call you mean? or something else | 21:25 |
| dansmith | that'd be hella better than having to talk to memcache from this side | 21:25 |
| bauzas | holy snap | 21:26 |
| dtp | and since we generate console urls, we can do this? | 21:26 |
| bauzas | just missed the beginning of the meeting | 21:26 |
| dansmith | melwitt: well, the url you make the console call on, which is in the instance I think | 21:26 |
| dansmith | dtp: I would think we could | 21:26 |
| melwitt | yeah, I didn't intend on talking to memcache on the client side. I just didn't realize I was looking at the server side or something at the time | 21:26 |
| dansmith | oh yeah, | 21:27 |
| dansmith | I think it's easy | 21:27 |
| dansmith | it's ?token= even | 21:27 |
| dansmith | so just add instance_uuid in ther | 21:27 |
| melwitt | easy == GOOD | 21:27 |
| dansmith | sec | 21:27 |
| dansmith | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L4546-L4548 | 21:27 |
| dansmith | now, here's the rub | 21:28 |
| dansmith | that is done on the compute side, | 21:28 |
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| dansmith | which would make the api stop working until all computes get upgraded | 21:28 |
| dansmith | so what might be even better is to have the api-side of that call tack on the instance uuid before returning what the compute returned, | 21:28 |
| dansmith | which would fix it before computes are upgraded | 21:28 |
| dansmith | so here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/remote_consoles.py#L67-L67 | 21:29 |
| dansmith | you could tack on the instance uuid | 21:29 |
| melwitt | ah, cool | 21:29 |
| dansmith | dtp: you will want to sync up with sdague on this I think | 21:29 |
| dansmith | but I think that's probably okay, | 21:29 |
| dansmith | and I think he might've been in a convo about this for a different thing a while ago | 21:29 |
| melwitt | do we need to worry about existing urls that don't have instance uuid? | 21:29 |
| dansmith | dtp: if he seems receptive, tell him "dansmith sent me" | 21:29 |
| dansmith | dtp: and if not, tell him it's all youridea | 21:30 |
| dtp | lol | 21:30 |
| dtp | i'm still processing what you have said, but don't let me hold you up | 21:30 |
| dansmith | melwitt: it would mean anyone that grabbed a url before an upgrade wouldn't work, but they would just re-ask and get an updated one | 21:30 |
| dansmith | melwitt: so I don't think it's too bad | 21:30 |
| melwitt | okay, cool | 21:31 |
| dtp | how is sdague involved? | 21:31 |
| dansmith | dtp: so, this is turning into a little more meaty thing, but still not to bad I think | 21:31 |
| dansmith | dtp: he says "no" to a lot of API stuff | 21:31 |
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| dansmith | dtp: if we can catch him in the next couple days I'll be glad to be there for that convo | 21:32 |
| dansmith | dtp: if not, melwitt can surely back you up | 21:32 |
| dansmith | sdague likes melwitt a lot more than he likes me anyway, so that's probably a good thing | 21:32 |
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| melwitt | hah | 21:33 |
| melwitt | and yes, I can help talk to him next week if we can't catch him this week | 21:33 |
| dansmith | dtp: okay, so have we jammed your brain full for the moment? definitely ask this kinda stuff sooner on irc if anything else comes up | 21:33 |
| mriedem | melwitt: are you around next week? | 21:33 |
| dtp | yes, head is full. i would have but i have been delayed | 21:34 |
| mriedem | dan is out after friday | 21:34 |
| melwitt | mriedem: yep | 21:34 |
| melwitt | I think I have next friday off as a company holiday | 21:34 |
| melwitt | so I'll be around monday - thursday | 21:35 |
| mriedem | alright | 21:35 |
| dansmith | okay so, speaking of that | 21:35 |
| dansmith | do we need to have a cells meeting for the next two weeks? | 21:35 |
| dansmith | if so, ya'll'er on your own | 21:35 |
| bauzas | hard | 21:36 |
| mriedem | dansmith: probably not | 21:37 |
| dansmith | soft? | 21:37 |
| mriedem | limp | 21:37 |
| dansmith | okay, so unless someone speaks up I shall send a mail to the list about it | 21:37 |
| mriedem | i probably need to talk to jay about his involvement in the upcoming pagan holiday | 21:37 |
| dtp | when is this work due? | 21:37 |
| dansmith | dtp: heh, are you a student? | 21:37 |
| mriedem | dtp: feature freeze is january 26th | 21:38 |
| dtp | *studen of nova cells v2* | 21:38 |
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| dansmith | bah dum dum | 21:38 |
| dtp | ok | 21:38 |
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| dansmith | since we have already... | 21:38 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 21:38 |
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| dansmith | anything else? | 21:38 |
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| dansmith | okay then | 21:40 |
| dansmith | dtp: don't be a stranger, ask in -nova and ye shall receive :) | 21:40 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 21:40:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-12-14-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-12-14-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-12-14-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
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