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| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:30 |
| soichi | i'd like to wait several minutes for taas folks | 05:33 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 05:33 |
| reedip | Present ! | 05:33 |
| soichi | yamamoto, reedip: hi | 05:33 |
| reedip | hi soichi | 05:33 |
| soichi | let's start | 05:33 |
| reedip | yo ! | 05:33 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 05:33:48 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: taas)" | 05:33 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:33 |
| soichi | #link: #startmeeting taas | 05:34 |
| soichi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/taas | 05:34 |
| soichi | #topic: Review currently open code | 05:34 |
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| soichi | take a look at the TaaS review Inbox | 05:36 |
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| soichi | vnyyad: hi | 05:37 |
| vnyyad | soichi: hi! | 05:37 |
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| reedip | vnyyad : hi , we need to step up on the reviews :) | 05:37 |
| reedip | if possible :) | 05:37 |
| anil_rao | Hi | 05:38 |
| reedip | yamamoto: thanks for your review comments | 05:38 |
| soichi | anil_rao: hi! | 05:38 |
| reedip | hi anil_rao : long time, no c :) | 05:38 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: hi | 05:38 |
| anil_rao | Yes, its been a while ... was caught up in lots of unrelated stuff | 05:38 |
| kaz | anil_rao: hi | 05:38 |
| anil_rao | should be getting back into TaaS now :-) | 05:39 |
| soichi | anil_rao: +1 | 05:39 |
| soichi | current topic is: Review currently open code | 05:39 |
| yamamoto | reedip: np! | 05:40 |
| yamamoto | anil_rao: welcome back! | 05:40 |
| anil_rao | Thanks. | 05:40 |
| soichi | do have any comments for this topic? | 05:42 |
| soichi | do have -> do you have | 05:42 |
| anil_rao | I have a question for reedip | 05:43 |
| reedip | yes ho | 05:43 |
| reedip | hi * | 05:43 |
| anil_rao | In your patch regarding other tenants /admins being able to delete tap-services and tap-flows, I am interested in hearing what is the expected role of the admin in such cases. | 05:44 |
| anil_rao | I.e. can the admin perform such tasks regardless of the tenant. | 05:44 |
| anil_rao | thoughts ... anyone? | 05:45 |
| reedip | anil_rao : we can modify policy.json to allow only admins to delete all sort of tap flows, but tenant 1 must not delete tap flows of tenant 2 | 05:45 |
| reedip | that would render the current code of that patch nearly useless, but still works better than the current condition :) | 05:46 |
| anil_rao | W.r.t. intent, I wonder if we should allow the admin to create tap-services and/or add-tap flows? | 05:46 |
| anil_rao | We had this discussion long back in the TaaS spec but it never came to a conclusion. | 05:47 |
| reedip | anil_rao : and in my observation, should admin be able to delete tap flows ? As tap flows have network data for the tenant, so in terms of security , I would not like admin to have the power to modify tap flows of a tenant | 05:47 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: the rough consensus was that the admin should become a user of the tenant to create any tap objects | 05:48 |
| anil_rao | In our original proposal, we had said that a cloud-admin must become a member of a tenant before performing any TaaS operation on that tenant. | 05:48 |
| reedip | anil_rao : admins can have the power to create tap-flows and tap-services, for their own uses. | 05:48 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: Yes, that is what I thought. | 05:48 |
| vnyyad | reedip: yes for their own networks yes; but tenant networks they should not be able to touch unless they become a user of the tenant | 05:49 |
| vnyyad | in other words when a admin for some reason taps a tenant network the tenant shall know of it | 05:50 |
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| reedip | vnyyad : in that sense, yes | 05:50 |
| soichi | vnyyad: it sounds good for me | 05:51 |
| reedip | anil_rao : I think then admins cannot create tap flows or services , and thus cannot modify anything for a tenant | 05:51 |
| anil_rao | I would have to agree with vnyyad. We must allow the admin to perform such operations but it would be nice if the tenant knew about it. | 05:52 |
| reedip | then as yamamoto proposed in the code review, we can just modify policy.json and resolve it, instead of the current code ( though it solves the problem ) . yamamoto : any thoughts | 05:52 |
| reedip | anil_rao : if admin is a user of a tenant, then its tenant-id would be same as that of the tenant of which it is a part. | 05:52 |
| yamamoto | i prefer to avoid hardcoding a particular policy. no opinion about what policy would be reasonable for the default. | 05:53 |
| anil_rao | yamamoto: The policy file is the right option. | 05:53 |
| anil_rao | We should still have a default though so that there is some policy in the vanilla version. | 05:54 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: +1 | 05:55 |
| soichi | +1 | 05:55 |
| reedip | ok, so I would be modifying the policy.json to have a default policy in the Vanilla version | 05:55 |
| reedip | but what should be the default policy, should the user owing the tap flow/service only have the authority of those resources? | 05:56 |
| anil_rao | I think a good default is to let the admin perform taas operations on a tenant but only if the admin is a member of that tenant. | 05:57 |
| anil_rao | Folks who want to prevent admin tapping or silent admin tapping can modify the policy as desired. | 05:57 |
| soichi | anil_rao: +1 | 05:57 |
| soichi | i have a question: who can modify the policy.json? tenant/admin? | 05:58 |
| anil_rao | I am guessing it would be the admin, otherwise the tenant can override the admin. | 05:59 |
| reedip | anil_rao : this seems to be a chicken and egg problem | 06:00 |
| reedip | :P | 06:00 |
| soichi | okay, but i guess it is requirement from a tenant: "who want to prevent admin tapping or silent admin tapping" | 06:00 |
| reedip | so the admin controls policy.json and the admin can ignore tenant's request of not wanting tap flows monitored by the admin | 06:00 |
| anil_rao | Well, we have to trust the admin in many ways, so if an admin really wants to cheat then this policy file won't be sufficient. | 06:01 |
| vnyyad | +1 | 06:02 |
| soichi | +0.8 :) | 06:03 |
| reedip | where is the policy.json for taas ????? | 06:03 |
| vnyyad | the policy should be a part of the service agreement between tenant and admin | 06:03 |
| reedip | seems my code doesnt have it | 06:03 |
| reedip | oh, we dont have it yet | 06:03 |
| reedip | sorry | 06:03 |
| anil_rao | vnyyad: +1 | 06:04 |
| soichi | vnyyad: +1 | 06:04 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:04 |
| reedip | okay, so admins can control taps of other tenants , thats the final conclusion | 06:04 |
| soichi | agree | 06:05 |
| anil_rao | reedip: We keep the default as admin can tap any tenant but must be a member of that tenant. | 06:05 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: +1 | 06:05 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:05 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:05 |
| soichi | can we go on next topic? | 06:08 |
| anil_rao | reedip: I haven't looked at your patch in detail but in the description I see the mention of adding the check to the 'client'. I am guessing that the policy.json file will apply to the actual TaaS REST apis | 06:08 |
| reedip | yamamoto : the path for policy.json would be etc/neutron/policy.d | 06:08 |
| reedip | correct me if I am wrong ^^ | 06:08 |
| reedip | anil_rao : yes, policy.json would apply it for the Rest API and thus handles various client requests as well | 06:09 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Thanks. | 06:09 |
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| reedip | should we move on? | 06:11 |
| anil_rao | Sure. | 06:11 |
| soichi | #topic: Open Discussion | 06:11 |
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| soichi | i rearranged the Wiki page | 06:12 |
| soichi | i moved items of previous meetings under "Pervious meetings" | 06:12 |
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| soichi | jurs FYI | 06:12 |
| soichi | jurs -> just | 06:12 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: i had added you as a admin for the launchpad for taas can you confirm you have the privileges | 06:13 |
| reedip | thanks soichi | 06:13 |
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| reedip | vnyyad , anil_rao : OpenContrail has support of Port Mirroring, have you guys experimented on it ? | 06:14 |
| reedip | I saw the vancouver summit did have something related to it | 06:14 |
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| vnyyad | reedip: i know they had support, but is there any attempt at developing a taas driver for openContrail? | 06:16 |
| reedip | Actually I am proposing an NFV based solution for TaaS and wanted to know what type of Opensource NFV solutions provide port mirroring | 06:16 |
| reedip | OpenContrail does, ODL doesnt ( yet ) | 06:16 |
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| reedip | vnyyad : I was attempting to see if it is possible and submit a talk for the Boston summit | 06:16 |
| reedip | you guys are also welcome to participate ( last day is 6th Feb ) | 06:16 |
| vnyyad | reedip: can you provide the link to their driver if available | 06:17 |
| reedip | my talk was to expose taas as a more sensible solution which can be used with other NFV based solutions | 06:17 |
| reedip | for port mirroing | 06:17 |
| vnyyad | reedip: +1 | 06:17 |
| soichi | reedip: +1 | 06:17 |
| reedip | vnyyad : I found it in thier docs ( maybe we have to write a driver ourselves or something :) ) | 06:18 |
| vnyyad | reedip: thanks, yeah a driver is missing and needs to be developed | 06:19 |
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| anil_rao | I am not sure what an NFV based solution would be. OpenContrail in an SDN Controller so they can always add taps in the underlying virtual switches. | 06:21 |
| anil_rao | I am not aware of OpenContrail working with the TaaS API | 06:21 |
| soichi | I hread that Contrail doesn't use OVS. OVS is replaced to vRoutor. | 06:23 |
| anil_rao | soichi: Thank is correct. OpenContrail is often used to manage vRouters (from Juniper). | 06:24 |
| anil_rao | Thanks --> That | 06:24 |
| anil_rao | I think it would be nice to have OpenContrail/vRouter standardize on the TaaS API. Perhaps we can start a dialogue with those folks. | 06:26 |
| reedip | :) | 06:26 |
| vnyyad | anil_rao: +1 | 06:26 |
| kaz | +1 | 06:26 |
| soichi | We asked for Motoki-san to review our Horizon extension (TaaS GUI). He gave many review comments. We will try to modify the code. | 06:28 |
| soichi | anil_rao: will you come to PTG in Atlanta? | 06:29 |
| reedip | I may be coming | 06:29 |
| soichi | +1 | 06:29 |
| anil_rao | soichi: I noticed in a review comment that the GUI work should be submitteed as an enhancement request to the Horizon Team. | 06:29 |
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| anil_rao | Is this their recommended way of implementation project specific features? | 06:30 |
| reedip | anil_rao, vnyyad : we need to look for being included in the governance. And also our TaaS Spec is not merged | 06:30 |
| soichi | anil_rao: okay | 06:30 |
| reedip | can you see if anything is required in the TaaS Spec, and merge it if its ok ? | 06:30 |
| anil_rao | reedip: Will do? | 06:30 |
| reedip | Question mark ??? :) | 06:31 |
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| soichi | it seems run out of time | 06:31 |
| anil_rao | soichi: I wasn't sure from those review comments | 06:31 |
| anil_rao | Let's continue next time... | 06:31 |
| soichi | sure | 06:31 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 06:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 06:32:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-01-25-05.33.html | 06:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-01-25-05.33.txt | 06:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-01-25-05.33.log.html | 06:32 |
| yamamoto | bye | 06:32 |
| anil_rao | Bye | 06:32 |
| soichi | bye | 06:32 |
| kaz | bye | 06:32 |
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| claudiub | #startmeeting hyper-v | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 13:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is claudiub. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 13:00 |
| claudiub | hello :) | 13:00 |
| sagar_nikam | Hi | 13:00 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: do you know if anyone else joins us today? | 13:00 |
| sagar_nikam | we can start | 13:01 |
| claudiub | cool | 13:01 |
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| claudiub | #topic nova patches status | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova patches status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:01 | |
| claudiub | soo, as I've mentioned last week, the hyper-v vNUMA patch and the nova hyper-v ovs vif plug patch merged last week | 13:03 |
| sagar_nikam | cool | 13:03 |
| sagar_nikam | HyperV patches getting merged faster now ? | 13:03 |
| claudiub | I've also submitted a patch for the compute-cpu-topologies documentation page | 13:03 |
| claudiub | #link Hyper-V NUMA topology documentation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424102/ | 13:03 |
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| sagar_nikam | targetting vNUMA for NFV use case ? | 13:04 |
| claudiub | they are getting merged at a very reasonable pace, in my opinion. :) | 13:04 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: yep | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | good | 13:04 |
| sagar_nikam | any idea if anybody uses HyperV for NFV ? | 13:04 |
| claudiub | if I'm not missing out anything, we only have 3 patches for approved blueprints | 13:05 |
| sagar_nikam | i have heard only KVM is used | 13:05 |
| claudiub | will get there in a sec. :) | 13:05 |
| claudiub | #link hyper-v: Adds support for ISO images: https://review.openstack.org/333569 | 13:05 |
| claudiub | #link hyper-v: Adds support for VMs with nested virtualization: https://review.openstack.org/398509 | 13:05 |
| claudiub | #link Hyper-V PCI Passthrough: https://review.openstack.org/420614 | 13:06 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: so, I haven't heard anyone using it at the moment, and as far as openstack goes, there are still a couple of things that we need to add | 13:06 |
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| claudiub | pci passthrough would be one of them | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | on this patch | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333569/ | 13:07 |
| claudiub | it is an extremely important patch for this usecase :) | 13:07 |
| claudiub | what about it? | 13:07 |
| sagar_nikam | is this for supporting booting the VM with ISO instead of VHD/VHDx ? | 13:07 |
| claudiub | yep | 13:07 |
| claudiub | and rescue as well | 13:07 |
| claudiub | so you can pass in a rescue iso, instead of a rescue vhd / vhdx | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | so the ISO will be uploaded to glance and as part of nova boot, we download the ISO na dboot the VM | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | correct ? | 13:08 |
| claudiub | yep | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | and how does it handles flavors | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | for VHD | 13:08 |
| sagar_nikam | we create a base disk with that size for every flavor | 13:09 |
| sagar_nikam | here ... how is it handled ? | 13:09 |
| claudiub | hm, the iso is simply attached to the vm. there isn't any other explicit disk attached to the vm | 13:09 |
| claudiub | i'm actually wondering what does libvirt do in this case | 13:10 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: do you know if it attaches a blank disk as well? | 13:10 |
| sagar_nikam | NOT SURE | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | not sure | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | i am curious | 13:11 |
| claudiub | although, I think you should have a blank disk attached to the vm if you pass in a --block-device in nova boot | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | do we download the ISO | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | make a copy of it | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | and then use that to boot the VM ? | 13:11 |
| claudiub | yep | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | so for the next VM | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | we dont download | 13:11 |
| claudiub | yep | 13:11 |
| sagar_nikam | we just make a copy of the already downloaded ISO | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | ok cool.. got it | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | we just make a copy of the already downloaded ISO | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | ok cool.. got it | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | we will support ISO , whenever we move to O | 13:12 |
| claudiub | if that merges in this cycle. :) | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | nice feature to support | 13:12 |
| sagar_nikam | nice feature to support | 13:12 |
| claudiub | as far as i know, the ocata branch will be cut at the end of this week | 13:13 |
| claudiub | and I'd really want to have the pci passthrough patch in more than this one. :) | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | oh.. so will we miss ocata ? | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | let me have a look at that | 13:13 |
| sagar_nikam | checking | 13:13 |
| claudiub | we did merge quite a few features for hyper-v this cycle, even if the it was extremely short, so I'm quite happy with the current state | 13:14 |
| sagar_nikam | agree .. PCI passthrough is more important | 13:14 |
| claudiub | regarding the PCI passthrough, I've tested the patch myself, it works fine. I've posted on the commit how the setup was made / configs / logs / flavors / glance image / screenshot with VM having the PCI devices. | 13:16 |
| claudiub | if you're curious, you can take a look | 13:16 |
| claudiub | primarely, if sfinucane and moshele give their +1 on the patch, it should be merge-able. | 13:16 |
| sagar_nikam | sure... | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:17 |
| claudiub | currently, moshele has a few questions on how hyper-v handles SR-IOV PF/VF passthrough | 13:17 |
| claudiub | I'm hoping I'll get a compute node with such capabilities today, and take a look and give a definitive answer | 13:17 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:18 |
| claudiub | I should be getting a compute node with Networks Adapters + SR-IOV, which is even more useful for the NFV usecase. :) | 13:18 |
| sagar_nikam | nice | 13:19 |
| claudiub | any questions? | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:19 |
| sagar_nikam | we can move to next topic | 13:19 |
| claudiub | cool | 13:19 |
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| claudiub | #topic networking-hyperv patches status | 13:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "networking-hyperv patches status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:19 | |
| claudiub | the QoS patch for networking-hyperv merged. | 13:20 |
| claudiub | let me grab the link... | 13:20 |
| claudiub | #link QoS support in networking-hyperv: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417420/ | 13:20 |
| claudiub | keep in mind that QoS might not be enabled by default in neutron, so you'll have to configure the Neutron controller to include the QoS extension as well | 13:21 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:22 |
| claudiub | afterwards, you'll have to enable the QoS support in the neutron-hyperv-agent as well, there is a config option in the [AGENT] section, called "enable_qos_extension". set it to true. | 13:22 |
| claudiub | other than that, there's the trunked VLANs support in networking-hyperv | 13:23 |
| claudiub | #link Adds trunked VLANs support in networking-hyperv: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412647/ | 13:23 |
| claudiub | this is the last feature in networking-hyperv for ocata, and it should merge today | 13:23 |
| claudiub | waiting for a positive CI vote. :) | 13:23 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:24 |
| claudiub | although, I didn't do any significant changes since the last patchset, where the CI voted positively. | 13:24 |
| claudiub | any quesitons? | 13:24 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:24 |
| claudiub | #topic os-win patches status | 13:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "os-win patches status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:25 | |
| claudiub | feature-wise, there are no more patches to merge in os-win for ocata | 13:25 |
| claudiub | the last release with new features was 1.4.0, which was made last week. | 13:25 |
| claudiub | only bugfixes, if needed | 13:26 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:26 |
| claudiub | #topic release status | 13:26 |
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| claudiub | soo, soon we'll have to cut the ocata stable branches | 13:27 |
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| claudiub | and after Ocata is released, keep in mind that Mitaka will be approaching EOL as well. | 13:27 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:28 |
| claudiub | Mitaka EOL will be in 2017-04-10 | 13:28 |
| claudiub | anyways. after we've cut the ocata stable branches, we'll start building a release candidate installer as well, and start testing :) | 13:29 |
| claudiub | as we usually do per release | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:29 |
| claudiub | any questions? :) | 13:29 |
| sagar_nikam | no | 13:30 |
| claudiub | #topic open discussion | 13:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 13:30 | |
| sagar_nikam | i have a question on Mitaka. We are slowly moving to Mitaka | 13:31 |
| claudiub | hm, one small thing I've forgot to mention for networking-hyperv, is that I've added a patch which will allow you to set the "firewall_driver=hyperv", instead of "firewall_driver=hyperv.neutron.security_groups_driver.HyperVSecurityGroupsDriver" | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | what was newly supported in Mitaka... that we can support as well ? | 13:31 |
| sagar_nikam | ok | 13:32 |
| claudiub | #link defines the Hyper-V Security Groups Driver as a neutron firewall driver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424270/ | 13:32 |
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| claudiub | it simplifies things a bit. | 13:32 |
| claudiub | sagar_nikam: you mean what merged in Mitaka? | 13:32 |
| claudiub | hmm... I do know that we started merging a lot of things in Mitaka | 13:33 |
| sagar_nikam | ok... no issues... i can check | 13:33 |
| claudiub | but I don't seem to remember all that much | 13:33 |
| claudiub | one easy way to check is to see the history | 13:33 |
| claudiub | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commits/stable/mitaka/nova/virt/hyperv | 13:34 |
| claudiub | hm, wait, was it mitaka, or newton.. | 13:35 |
| claudiub | we've added os-win in mitaka | 13:35 |
| claudiub | so, the major focus was that | 13:35 |
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| sagar_nikam_ | gor disconnected. back again | 13:36 |
| claudiub | wb :) | 13:36 |
| claudiub | anyways, I was saying that you can check the history: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commits/stable/mitaka/nova/virt/hyperv | 13:36 |
| claudiub | in mitaka, we've added os-win, so that was the major focut at the time. | 13:37 |
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| sagar_nikam__ | bad network today... getting disconnected | 13:39 |
| claudiub | i see :) | 13:39 |
| claudiub | i was saying: anyways, I was saying that you can check the history: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commits/stable/mitaka/nova/virt/hyperv | 13:39 |
| claudiub | in mitaka, we've added os-win, so that was the major focut at the time. | 13:39 |
| sagar_nikam__ | yes... remember that... os-win was the main focus | 13:40 |
| claudiub | anyways. anything else you wish to discuss today? | 13:41 |
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| sagar_nikam__ | no | 13:42 |
| sagar_nikam__ | we can finish | 13:42 |
| claudiub | sure. :) | 13:43 |
| sagar_nikam__ | we can end the meeting | 13:43 |
| claudiub | well thanks for joining, see you next week! | 13:43 |
| claudiub | #endmeeting | 13:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 13:43:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-01-25-13.00.html | 13:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-01-25-13.00.txt | 13:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2017/hyper_v.2017-01-25-13.00.log.html | 13:43 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 15:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday January 25 2016 (15:00 UTC) | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Ocata schedule | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.python-monascaclient final release | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.psutils change | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424771 | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407032/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424242/ | 15:00 |
| bklei | o\ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.Reviews: | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418509/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422278/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419581/ | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 4.Instrumenting Monasca with Prometheus | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Wiki page with overview: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca/Instrumentation | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://blueprints.launchpad.net/monasca/+spec/prometheus-instrumentation | 15:00 |
| rbak | o/ | 15:00 |
| witek | hi | 15:00 |
| Kamil__ | o/ | 15:00 |
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| rhochmuth | Hello everyone, it looks like we have a good agenda today | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Lot's of stuff happenin | 15:01 |
| sc | busy agenda | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | i was expecting a few more folks to be honest | 15:01 |
| timothyb89 | hello all | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | there is one, hi timothyb89 | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | are there 89 of you | 15:02 |
| timothyb89 | afraid not :) | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | thank goodness | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | jkeen r u here | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | we might as well get it started | 15:03 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Ocata schedule | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata schedule (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:03 | |
| witek | tomorrow is final release for client libraries | 15:03 |
| witek | that is python-monascaclient | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | i;m looking at the list of open reviews for the python-monascaclient | 15:04 |
| witek | is there anything that should be merged before? | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+python-monascaclient | 15:04 |
| rhochmuth | How about this one? | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398266/ | 15:05 |
| witek | that is on newton | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | ohh yeah, just saw that | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | i;m not seeing any in my quick review | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | do you concur | 15:07 |
| witek | I will create a tag tomorrow | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | sounds good | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | we've got a release everyone! | 15:07 |
| rhochmuth | thanks witek | 15:07 |
| bklei | yes, thx for that work witek | 15:08 |
| witek | also, do we want to create stable branches some time before final Ocata release? | 15:08 |
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| rhochmuth | i thought the branches were create for us? | 15:08 |
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| witek | no, not any more, AFAIK | 15:08 |
| rhochmuth | thank goodness you are tracking this | 15:09 |
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| bklei | +1 | 15:09 |
| rhochmuth | well it kinda depends imho | 15:09 |
| witek | we can apply for branches ourselves | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | if we branch, then for all bug fixes, we'll have to apply to two branches | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | however, for new development, that should only be applied to master | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | and not the final code that is used in ocata | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | so, in some respect, it makes sense to delay a branch up until the point at which a new feature is added | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | or some other makjor refactoring is one | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | but, i'm open to either way | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | it isn't like there is a lot of development occuring in the python-monascaclient | 15:11 |
| rhochmuth | so, the savings in not branching now isn't that much | 15:11 |
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| witek | 13-17 February is the lates when we should have stable branch | 15:12 |
| witek | latest | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | ohhh, that isn't much time anyway | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | you might as well get it done now | 15:12 |
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| rhochmuth | delaying isn't going to really buy us anything | 15:12 |
| rhochmuth | and i'll be ablte to sleep better at night knowing the branch was created | 15:13 |
| witek | projects that follow release-with-milestones (not us) have rc1 and stable branch 30 January - 3 February | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | that is next week | 15:13 |
| witek | right | 15:13 |
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| rhochmuth | i think you are all clear for creating a stable branch | 15:14 |
| witek | ok, will do next week then | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | i'm unaware of any new development for the python-monascaclient between now and then | 15:14 |
| rhochmuth | thx witek | 15:14 |
| witek | thanks, that's all | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | #topic psutils change | 15:15 |
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| rhochmuth | 1.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424771 | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | 2.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407032/ | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | 3.https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424242/ | 15:15 |
| rbak | Alright, this is mine | 15:15 |
| rbak | So we found that the behavior of psutils changed a couple months ago. | 15:15 |
| rbak | It now collects used memory differently | 15:15 |
| qwebirc11986 | Is it difficult to adjust for the new behaviour? | 15:16 |
| rbak | No, but there's a couple options and we need to make sure to implement on of them when we upgrade psutil | 15:17 |
| bklei | it sort of invalidates the need for mem.used_real_mb | 15:17 |
| rbak | We could either get rid of mem.used_real_mb, or keep that and get rid of mem.used_mb so the measurements for each metric are consistent | 15:17 |
| rbak | Either way, this needs to happen when psutil is updated, which https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407032/ does | 15:18 |
| mhoppal | yeah and we need to upgrade it if we want to run it in a container | 15:18 |
| rbak | Any preference on which way to handle this? | 15:19 |
| qwebirc11986 | If you have an opinion on which way to go could you put up a patch set that depends on that upgrade? | 15:19 |
| rbak | Do we want to make this a separate patch or add it to the patch already changing the psutil version? | 15:19 |
| qwebirc11986 | I don't think we use used_real_mb anywhere. I'm not sure I know what it means anyway over mem.used_mb | 15:20 |
| rbak | That's fine with me | 15:20 |
| rhochmuth | same questiong for me too | 15:20 |
| rbak | The difference is the used_real used to subtract out buffers and cache, but now psutil does that automatically for used. | 15:20 |
| bklei | and if we don't modify or delete mem.used_real_mb, it will be wrong -- double subtraction of buffers/cache | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | so, from an operational viewpoint, is there any strong reason to have both | 15:21 |
| rhochmuth | it sounds like we were deriving what we really wanted | 15:22 |
| rbak | I don't think so anymore | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | so, we had a metric that we were reporting that wasn't very useful | 15:22 |
| bklei | for the metrics to retain their current meanings, we'd need to change both -- add back for mem.used_mb, and stop subtracting for mem.used_real_mb | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | we also derived the "real" metric we were interested in | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | so, i like the idea of dropping unused or not very useful metrics | 15:23 |
| bklei | +1 -- so we remove mem.used_real_mb? | 15:24 |
| rbak | Works for me | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | my guess is that there proabbly isn't anyone else using mem.used_mb right now | 15:24 |
| rhochmuth | and having "real" in there is a bit odd | 15:24 |
| witek | it is also important to keep monasca-agent backward compatible in respect of psutil version | 15:24 |
| bklei | we'll just have to understand if you are graphing mem.used_mb, it'll take a dive after this change gets deployed | 15:24 |
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| qwebirc11986 | Witek, why is it important to provide backwards compatibility if we're going to require versions > 5.0? | 15:25 |
| rbak | witek: Whatever we do or don't do it will be backwards compatible in that it will work, but psutil changed behavior and so the metrics are going to report differently. | 15:25 |
| witek | <= not > | 15:25 |
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| witek | in some deployments monasca-agent is installed natively, not in virtualenv | 15:26 |
| witek | and psutil has to be in older version | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | so, if you want complete compatibility, then we need to keep both metrics | 15:26 |
| witek | rbak: we could add checks on psutil.version_info | 15:26 |
| rhochmuth | and we have to test the version of psutil | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | right? | 15:27 |
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| rbak | Sure, that would probably work. | 15:27 |
| bklei | yup -- then metrics would retain their current meanings | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | well, maybe we should jsut do that | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | i love removing unused metrics | 15:28 |
| rbak | If e'retrying to keep metric behavior consistent though that will mean adding buffers and cache back into mem.used for the latest psutil versions | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | and i don't think we are using it | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | but, i don't know what everyone else is doing | 15:28 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: i think that is the only way, if the answer is complete compaibility | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | unfortunately | 15:29 |
| qwebirc11986 | The other problem I see here, just a general problem, is that we're adding in things that depend on newer versions of psutil in some of these patch sets. Do we have any idea what versions of psutil we should be testing against? | 15:29 |
| bklei | since we have metrics for buffers and cache -- i think i'd vote to remove mem.used_mb and fix mem.used_real_mb and publish fewer redundant metrics | 15:30 |
| bklei | then we're BW compat -- we've just stopped publishing a redundant metric | 15:30 |
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| rbak | Well if we're adding features that depend on newer psutil versions it sounds like we're already not backwards compatible. | 15:30 |
| rhochmuth | rbak: i think that would be considered a bug | 15:31 |
| qwebirc11986 | Luckily the new features don't break anything yet, they just silently don't work on older versions. Not necessarily awesome behaviour. | 15:31 |
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| rhochmuth | qwebirc11986: agree, a silent bug | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | witek: Do you want more time to consider? | 15:32 |
| witek | I'll comment in review | 15:32 |
| rhochmuth | witek: thx | 15:33 |
| witek | but bklei's proposal sounds fine | 15:33 |
| rhochmuth | so, keep the "real" metric, but fix it? | 15:34 |
| witek | right | 15:34 |
| bklei | yup | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | ok, how about we take a vote | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | is there a vot in IRC? | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | i don't know how to do that | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | how about all in favor of keep the real metric, and remove the non-real one, and fix up real, say awe | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | i feel like a pirate | 15:35 |
| bklei | aye | 15:36 |
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| rbak | aye | 15:36 |
| mhoppal | aye | 15:36 |
| Kamil__ | aye | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | witek? | 15:36 |
| witek | aye :) | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | need some pirate emoji | 15:37 |
| witek | #startvote aye | 15:37 |
| openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | #startvote aya | 15:37 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 15:37 |
| sc | IIRC to record you agree on something you need to write "#agreed" | 15:37 |
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| rhochmuth | #agreed | 15:37 |
| witek | #agreed | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | #agreed aya | 15:37 |
| rhochmuth | #agreed aye | 15:37 |
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| rhochmuth | i need to take a class on irc | 15:38 |
| Kamil__ | #agreed b) | 15:38 |
| bklei | #agreed | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | are there any dissenters? | 15:38 |
| timothyb89 | for future reference, https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-meetbot :) | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | ok, the aye's have it i think | 15:38 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Instrumenting Monasca with Prometheus | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | timothyb89: you have the floor | 15:39 |
| timothyb89 | right, so I've written up the rough idea in a wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca/Instrumentation | 15:40 |
| timothyb89 | essentially the goal is to instrument monasca in a way we can consume ourselves, with one possibility being the prometheus client | 15:40 |
| timothyb89 | (now that we can consume prometheus metrics due to mhoppal's new plugin) | 15:40 |
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| timothyb89 | but for discussion purposes right now, I'm mainly looking for some general feedback on the idea and trying to start up some discussion | 15:42 |
| rhochmuth | so, a lot of this was motivated by issues with using statsd in a Kubernetes environment. is that correct? | 15:43 |
| timothyb89 | yes, one of the driving factors in the PoCs was trying to remove any need for configuration on the users' end | 15:43 |
| mhoppal | and statsd brings a lot of problems to a kubernetes env | 15:43 |
| timothyb89 | right, I tried to sum up the issues we ran into with statsd on the wiki page | 15:44 |
| timothyb89 | mainly it comes down to language support (due to the dialect differences) and configuration challenges | 15:44 |
| rhochmuth | so, besides hpe, interested in thoughts on this topic | 15:45 |
| bklei | i'd love to see a demo of this during mid-cycle if possible, might help me wrap my head around it | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | do we want more time to review over the next week or two | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | bklei: sounds good | 15:46 |
| timothyb89 | a demo shouldn't be a problem, we've had the PoC running on one of our testing clusters for a while now | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | we can also have an on-line demo via collaboration tools simetime in the near future | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | nearer future | 15:46 |
| bklei | sweet -- i wouldn't hold moving forward for that though, just want to understand it better | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | would folks be interested in that | 15:46 |
| bklei | non-terminal interactions? bite your tongue | 15:47 |
| witek | is it planned to replace statsd? | 15:47 |
| timothyb89 | not really intended to replace, just solving a different problem | 15:48 |
| mhoppal | potentially | 15:48 |
| mhoppal | in a container/kubernetes world | 15:48 |
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| rhochmuth | so, questions are a little light | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | i think folks need some more time to think about it | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | in the man time, how about a collaboration session in the near future | 15:49 |
| rhochmuth | mean time | 15:49 |
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| witek | sounds good | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | timothyb89: sounds like we have some next steps and then we can have a more indepth discussion | 15:51 |
| timothyb89 | sure, sounds good to me :) | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | timothyb89: ok, great. | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | thanks for all the work in this area an the thorough blueprint and wiki | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | looks like a good start | 15:52 |
| timothyb89 | for sure, and feel free to hit me up with any questions | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | #topic open floor | 15:53 |
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| bklei | did we skip the reviews? | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | ooops | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | we did | 15:53 |
| bklei | Reviews: | 15:54 |
| bklei | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418509/ | 15:54 |
| bklei | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422278/ | 15:54 |
| bklei | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419581/ | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | #topic reviews | 15:54 |
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| rbak | That first one is mine. | 15:54 |
| rbak | It's been up for a couple weeks now. Just waiting for merge or feedback. | 15:54 |
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| rhochmuth | ok, i'll review it more closely | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | but, there is a backlog of review a mile long right now | 15:55 |
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| bklei | well - latter two are mine, we can add them to the mile-long list :) | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422278/ | 15:57 |
| Kamil__ | :) | 15:57 |
| rhochmuth | i don't have any issues, but i was waiting for something a little more definitive from sap | 15:58 |
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| bklei | ^^ is me -- i know sap folks have a jinja template solution coming, but i don't think that should exclude this change | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | ok, i'll take a closer look | 15:58 |
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| bklei | gracias | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | it sounds like the sap one is further out in time | 15:58 |
| rhochmuth | and more for future | 15:58 |
| bklei | yup | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | and we can address your review right now | 15:59 |
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| bklei | i think the change makes sense -- all messages green in hipchat get ignored here :) | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | i need to end the meeting i just realized | 16:00 |
| Kamil__ | bye | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | i'll look at the other review too | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | i think we are saiting on sonu, | 16:00 |
| rhochmuth | bye everyone | 16:00 |
| bklei_ | thx roland | 16:00 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 16:01:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-01-25-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-01-25-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-01-25-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 16:01:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| eglute | Hello Everyone! | 16:01 |
| eglute | here is our agenda for today: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRoble.10 | 16:01 |
| eglute | please add/update as needed | 16:02 |
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| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 16:02 |
| gema | o/ (half here half in the kolla meeting) | 16:02 |
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| eglute | Mark said he will be traveling today, so looks like he might not be able to make it | 16:03 |
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| eglute | anyone else here for the interop meeting? | 16:03 |
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| eglute | do you think we have quorum for the meeting? | 16:04 |
| shamail | hi everyone | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | Congratulations to everyone on another successful guideline release. | 16:04 |
| shamail | hogepodge: +1 | 16:04 |
| eglute | yes, thanks everyone for all your help! | 16:04 |
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| eglute | #chair hogepodge | 16:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge | 16:05 |
| eglute | #topic 2017.01 guideline | 16:05 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "2017.01 guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:05 | |
| eglute | the board approved the guideline, and this is the report we presented to the board: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MFotmauuwZXmmhiTj_iyzUIOcTZA1V8JXgPk8Lqdc-4/edit?usp=sharing | 16:05 |
| eglute | thanks catherine_d|1 for catching the issues with the guideline | 16:05 |
| eglute | before it was approved :) | 16:05 |
| hogepodge | +1 catherine_d|1 | 16:06 |
| eglute | #topic PTG | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:06 | |
| eglute | just a reminder to please add things to the agenda | 16:06 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: yw ... thanks everyone for merging the guideline in time .. that was very quick | 16:06 |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RefStackInteropWGAtlantaPTG | 16:06 |
| eglute | since there wont be a board meeting at PTG, i will not be staying the whole week | 16:07 |
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| * eglute needs to book travel | 16:07 | |
| eglute | #topic Flagging two network-l2-CRUD capabilities | 16:08 |
| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422715/ | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Flagging two network-l2-CRUD capabilities (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:08 | |
| eglute | Zhipeng Huang is asking to flag a capability | 16:09 |
| eglute | reason: [D405] The test reflects an implementation choice that is not widely deployed even if the Capability is widely deployed | 16:10 |
| eglute | what does everyone think? | 16:10 |
| eglute | for networks-l2-CRUD, there are a few things going on | 16:12 |
| hogepodge | eglute: and anyone else who is running a public cloud, are those things you would expect to have? | 16:12 |
| eglute | I do not know what we do in public cloud, but i can find out | 16:12 |
| garloff | I'm with Zhipeng here (but that's no surprise) | 16:13 |
| eglute | test_create_port_with_no_securitygroups seems like a reasonable test to flag. | 16:13 |
| hogepodge | I can't say either way without more data, but I also don't find the request entirely objectionable. | 16:13 |
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| catherine_d|1 | CT Cloud Platform https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/public-clouds/china-telecom/ct-cloud-platform passed 2016.08 ...this is a public cloud | 16:13 |
| eglute | i think most ports created would have some security groups associated with it | 16:14 |
| eglute | not sure if there is a test that test creation of port without looking at security groups | 16:14 |
| catherine_d|1 | however, at the minimum flagging thiese 2 tests seem to not relaxing security ... so it may make sense | 16:14 |
| eglute | i agree with catherine_d|1 | 16:15 |
| eglute | there is a test above those two: test_create_port_in_allowed_allocation_pools | 16:15 |
| eglute | so they do create ports | 16:15 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 garloff and everyone else if you could comment on the PR that would help | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | My proposal would be to clean up the patch a bit (it needs to be applied to 2016.08 also, and have the reason modified, plus a longer commit message) and leave in the queue for a week for comments. | 16:16 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: will do | 16:16 |
| eglute | thank you catherine_d|1 | 16:16 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: +1 | 16:16 |
| garloff | eglute: Will do, thanks | 16:16 |
| hogepodge | I don't have any strong objections to it, but I want to make sure it airs for just a bit. | 16:16 |
| eglute | hogepodge would you post that comment on the PR? | 16:17 |
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| eglute | if i understand what is being tested correctly just looking at the test names, i think they are reasonable to flag. | 16:17 |
| eglute | but i agree with hogepodge | 16:17 |
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| eglute | anything else on this patch? | 16:18 |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker | 16:18 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:18 |
| * markvoelker_ sneaks in the back after being slightly delayed at the airport | 16:19 | |
| eglute | #chair markvoelker_ | 16:19 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker markvoelker_ | 16:19 |
| eglute | #topic Glance change: Implement and Enable Community Images | 16:19 |
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| eglute | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369110/ | 16:19 |
| eglute | I think this was brought up on the mailing list | 16:20 |
| eglute | do we have any glance experts that would be able to tell if this will affect our guidelines? | 16:20 |
| markvoelker_ | My initial read from a quick skim was "probably not" but I've not had a chance to look at it closely yet. | 16:21 |
| garloff | visibility: community is something that would be useful for us as public cloud provider | 16:21 |
| garloff | This is from skimming through the blueprint (quite some time ago) -- will need to look closer to make sure the definition is clear enough | 16:22 |
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| eglute | my main concern if it will affect existing guidelines and cause current tests to fail-- or changes to existing tests. | 16:22 |
| eglute | i guess we can take that as an action item to review | 16:23 |
| eglute | if there are no takers, i can take a look | 16:23 |
| markvoelker_ | eglute: I can volunteer to look at this a bit closer, but not until at least next week. I'm going to be doing some stuff related to that section of code soonish anyway. | 16:23 |
| markvoelker_ | eglute: the more the merrier though. =) | 16:23 |
| eglute | markvoelker_ that would be great! | 16:23 |
| eglute | thank you! | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | If the tests fail because of this change, then the tests are broken | 16:23 |
| garloff | One problem we need to solve is how to hide old images without making them inaccessible ... | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | branchless tempest is supposed to be branchless with the promise of stability over supported releases | 16:24 |
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| eglute | #action markvoelker_ will review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369110/ | 16:24 |
| eglute | hogepodge then hopefully the tests are working :) | 16:24 |
| markvoelker_ | hogepodge: sure, it'd be nice to find out if the tests are broken before people trying to get a license agreement do though. | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker_: agree :-D | 16:25 |
| eglute | garloff- hopefully this patch helps you do so | 16:25 |
| eglute | anything else on glance? | 16:25 |
| eglute | #topic Schema v2.0 | 16:26 |
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| eglute | hogepodge any updates? | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | We presented the rationale to the board yesterday. | 16:26 |
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| hogepodge | I commit to having a first pass by our meeting in two weeks | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | (I'll be at our staff offsite next week, so won't be at this meeting) | 16:27 |
| eglute | that would be great, thanks hogepodge | 16:27 |
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| eglute | #topic name change | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "name change (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:28 | |
| hogepodge | Were we planning on changing the repo name? | 16:28 |
| eglute | thanks everyone who worked on the rename, we got most things renamed | 16:28 |
| eglute | that was going to be my next question | 16:28 |
| eglute | repo and launchpad | 16:28 |
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| eglute | i am ok with leaving it as is, what do others prefer? | 16:29 |
| garloff | eglute: I thought we had decided otherwise *if it is no big trouble doing so technically* -- I have no strong opinion on this myself | 16:29 |
| shamail | Yes, I think the plan was to change it | 16:30 |
| shamail | markvoelker_ had taken the action but it was supposed to be one of the last things | 16:30 |
| shamail | happy to revisit but that was the original plan anyway | 16:30 |
| markvoelker_ | Right, the idea was to get the docs all updated and 2017.01 landed before we switch the repo name | 16:30 |
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| eglute | i think shamail and garloff are right, they have better memory than me | 16:31 |
| markvoelker_ | Both of which are now done, btw. =) | 16:31 |
| shamail | markvoelker_: +1 | 16:31 |
| eglute | so when do we want to have the change happen? | 16:31 |
| markvoelker_ | I think the sooner the better at this point...would be nice to do it while the patch volume is low. | 16:31 |
| eglute | markvoelker_ agree | 16:32 |
| markvoelker_ | We will likely see a lot more patches around the PTG, so makes sense to do it soonish. | 16:32 |
| shamail | markvoelker_ +1 and before the PTG/midcycle | 16:32 |
| eglute | +1 | 16:32 |
| garloff | +1 | 16:32 |
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| eglute | markvoelker_ are you still ok with making the change? | 16:32 |
| markvoelker_ | eglute: Sure | 16:32 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker_ | 16:33 |
| eglute | just let us know when you are able to do so | 16:33 |
| markvoelker_ | I can start the wheel turning next week if that works for folks...in the interim it would be best to try to clear out the patch queue as much as possible | 16:33 |
| shamail | Awesome | 16:33 |
| luzC | +1 | 16:33 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker_ | 16:33 |
| shamail | Please add me to the change markvoelker_ and I will be glad to review it. | 16:33 |
| markvoelker_ | Will do | 16:33 |
| eglute | right now we have only one patch | 16:34 |
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| eglute | how about launchpad? i know we have not been using it lately | 16:34 |
| eglute | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/defcore | 16:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | eglute: I see a lot of email about using story board ... | 16:35 |
| eglute | are most projects switching to storyboard? | 16:35 |
| markvoelker_ | I'm ok with sticking with LP for now, but I do think we should change the project name (or is that a matter of just creating a new one? I forget...) | 16:35 |
| catherine_d|1 | I am not sure | 16:35 |
| hogepodge | creating a new one is probably the most frictionless way | 16:36 |
| markvoelker_ | I think opinions on StoryBoard vary...a lot of projects got scared off when it nearly died off a while back | 16:36 |
| hogepodge | we can clean out the old one | 16:36 |
| eglute | hogepodge i think cleaning out would be good | 16:36 |
| hogepodge | I've been encouraged to encourage others to move to storyboard | 16:36 |
| catherine_d|1 | markvoelker_: that is true ... RefStack started with StoryBoard | 16:36 |
| markvoelker_ | hogepodge: Seems like it would be relatively simple to create the new one, mark all the bugs as also-affects the new project, then remove the old one? | 16:36 |
| eglute | we can wait on storyboard then, and maybe discuss it during PTG | 16:37 |
| markvoelker_ | But there's not that much there to lose, so whatever is easiest. =) | 16:37 |
| catherine_d|1 | but it seems like there is new momentum this round .. | 16:37 |
| eglute | catherine_d|1 i added storyboard to the PTG agenda | 16:37 |
| eglute | anything else on the rename? | 16:38 |
| eglute | #topic New components/add-on programs | 16:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New components/add-on programs (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:38 | |
| eglute | this ties to the schama 2.0 | 16:38 |
| eglute | we talked about New components/add-on programs during our last midcycle, | 16:39 |
| eglute | but have not moved forward with it | 16:39 |
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| eglute | hogepodge will have a draft schema in a couple weeks, so hopefully we can get some work done on it before ptg | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | #action hogepodge to write first draft of 2.0 schema | 16:40 |
| eglute | if you have any thoughts now on what New components/add-on programs should look like, please share :) | 16:40 |
| hogepodge | Let's use this for drafting out ideas https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropSchema2 | 16:41 |
| markvoelker_ | We've discussed orchestration and dbaas before. There has also been talk about vertical-specific programs (NFV for example). | 16:41 |
| markvoelker_ | So basically we'll want a schema flexible enough to take a couple of different types of programs into account I think. | 16:41 |
| hogepodge | There's definitely interest from some NFV folks to take advantage of our guideline infrastructure | 16:42 |
| eglute | i would be very interested in figuring out what openstack/nfv would look like | 16:42 |
| garloff | Should this accommodate things beyond what you (can|should) do with tempest? | 16:42 |
| markvoelker_ | garloff: we technically already have a structure for things outside of Tempest | 16:43 |
| eglute | garloff good question. unfortunately, TC said that everything that is in Interop Guideline must be tested with things in tempest. | 16:43 |
| garloff | markvoelker_, eglute: that does not match in my mind ... | 16:44 |
| hogepodge | TC is also pushing everyone breaking out their tempest plugins into separate repos, which helps us with multiple sources | 16:44 |
| garloff | markvoelker_: actually, that's why you said "technically"? | 16:44 |
| eglute | but yes, technically our guidelines could support tests that are not in tempest | 16:44 |
| garloff | ok | 16:45 |
| hogepodge | garloff: we had planned on using external testing for swift, then the TC passed a resolution saying "no, we want you to use tempest for interop guidelines" | 16:45 |
| markvoelker_ | garloff: right. The TC resolution is here: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20160504-defcore-test-location.html | 16:45 |
| markvoelker_ | However given the new motion to break stuff out of Tempest...that may be worth revisiting. | 16:45 |
| markvoelker_ | (that movement really got started after the TC resolution) | 16:46 |
| eglute | markvoelker_ when did this motion begin? after Barcelona? | 16:46 |
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| markvoelker_ | A little before, IIRC | 16:46 |
| eglute | in Barcelona I talked to Doug, and he thought that projects can bring back to tempest proper the tests that are part of interop | 16:46 |
| hogepodge | yes, we're supposed to evaluate all project tests, then pull them into tempest if we want them to be interop | 16:47 |
| eglute | hogepodge that seems like a lot of overhead for projects | 16:47 |
| garloff | hogepodge: I guess the discussion on heat showed that at some point, testing API semantics may not be sufficient or at least not hte best abstraction for what you want to test | 16:47 |
| garloff | maybe we are not at that point yet, hard to tell ... | 16:48 |
| hogepodge | Which adds layers of overhead, especially in context of flagging and so on. It seems silly to me, and we're not bound by TC resolutions as we're a board group. But, it's nice to play nice. | 16:48 |
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| eglute | garloff technically we could support other tests. but it gets back to that TC resolution | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | garloff: for some things, I could see us doing scenario tests | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | especially for additional programs like NFV | 16:49 |
| eglute | we could have a meeting with projects that are going the plugin route + TC representative and see if we can work things out | 16:49 |
| eglute | and have them revoke their resolution | 16:49 |
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| eglute | i would like to play nice with everyone, but it seems to me that this resolution might be a bit too restrictive | 16:50 |
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| eglute | is this something we should discuss at PTG? | 16:51 |
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| markvoelker_ | eglute: Maybe, but I think it would be good to understand the sort of programs we may want to develop first. | 16:51 |
| markvoelker_ | That way we can have a more informed discussion with the TC | 16:51 |
| eglute | markvoelker_ good point | 16:51 |
| markvoelker_ | So, perhaps an item for later in the agenda | 16:52 |
| eglute | ok i will add it as tentative | 16:52 |
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| eglute | anything else? | 16:53 |
| eglute | #topic open floor | 16:53 |
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| eglute | anything else we should discuss? | 16:53 |
| markvoelker_ | You probably already covered this while I was delayed (sorry for being late!) but: thanks everyone who contributed to 2017.01 and the renaming work! | 16:54 |
| eglute | yes, thanks everyone! | 16:54 |
| eglute | we will start the next one soon :D | 16:54 |
| markvoelker_ | Also, a quick note on the new Board: | 16:55 |
| garloff | Here's something I was wondering: Currently DefCore Compute + DefCore Object = DefCore Platform | 16:55 |
| garloff | Do we need finer granularity in the future so we define InterOp for projects not as widely deployed as well? | 16:56 |
| * garloff still using old name, sorry | 16:56 | |
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| markvoelker_ | ChangBo Guo from EasyStack (starting a new term on teh Board) contacted me after the Board meeting last night to say he's interested in participating in the InteropWG. Please do help us welcome him and other newcomers and get them up to speed. | 16:56 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker_ for that! hopefully they will be joining our meetings in the future. | 16:57 |
| markvoelker_ | garloff: That's something that's been brought up...generally speaking, we'd like to get to a point where community projects can define interop guidelines for themselves | 16:57 |
| markvoelker_ | These may not be required for logo/trademark agreements | 16:57 |
| eglute | garloff- schema 2.0 should help with that | 16:57 |
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| markvoelker_ | But would help users of those lesser-used projects navigate products | 16:57 |
| markvoelker_ | And would hopefully provide an on-ramp for those projects that may become part of logo programs in the future | 16:58 |
| eglute | garloff: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MFotmauuwZXmmhiTj_iyzUIOcTZA1V8JXgPk8Lqdc-4/edit#heading=h.19sxczb6yn0f | 16:58 |
| markvoelker_ | And with that we're about out of time and I need to head to my boarding gate.... | 16:58 |
| eglute | safe travels markvoelker_ | 16:59 |
| eglute | thanks everyone! | 16:59 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 16:59:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-01-25-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-01-25-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-01-25-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
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| garloff | eglute: I see, it's all been thought of already. Great -- thanks! | 16:59 |
| garloff | We "just" need to make it happen :-) | 17:00 |
| eglute | garloff you are welcome! | 17:00 |
| eglute | garloff we will be talking about it alot more this spring :D | 17:00 |
| garloff | looking fwd to it | 17:01 |
| eglute | garloff please join #openstack-interop | 17:01 |
| garloff | ok | 17:01 |
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| robcresswell | Horizon meeting? | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | ? | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | ? | 20:08 |
| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s is vacationing I think | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | Anyone around? I can run it | 20:09 |
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| david-lyle | that leaves you and me ;-) | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Haha | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Never mind, then | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | anything to discuss, put in the public record? | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Nope | 20:09 |
| david-lyle | o-3 is today, correct? | 20:09 |
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| rdopiera | o/ | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | Yeah it is | 20:10 |
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| rdopiera | we could talk about the simple-tenant-usage pagination | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | Well, tomorrow in my tz | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 20:10:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:10 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | :D | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | Fire away rdopiera | 20:10 |
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| rdopiera | so the situation is, Nova went and changed that endpoint to always limit the number of entries it returns, but added pagination in microversion 2.40 so that we can get the rest of the entries | 20:11 |
| rdopiera | that means we need to use microversion 2.40 of the api for that particular endpoint at least | 20:12 |
| rdopiera | (if it's available, if it's not, there is nothing we can do) | 20:12 |
| rdopiera | the initial patches I asked for an exception for just added that pagination, and a way for the user to set the nova api version to 2.40 | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | I haven't had time today to see if my microver patch works on new novaclient | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | but your patch is fine | 20:13 |
| rdopiera | but that is apparently risky, because we currently use version 2.1 for everything | 20:13 |
| david-lyle | 2.40 for all API requests, or just that particular one? | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | 2.40 for everything will be error prone | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | that's why I'm asking for clarification | 20:14 |
| ediardo | o/ | 20:14 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: initially, my idea was to use it for all, since we didn't have microversion patch merged | 20:14 |
| rdopiera | now I wrote a patch that only requests 2.40 for that one (actually two) endpoint | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | and then if the client didn't support 2.40, no nova? | 20:14 |
| rdopiera | using parts of robcresswell's microversion patch | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | ok | 20:15 |
| david-lyle | that would be better | 20:15 |
| rdopiera | and of course if the nova doesn't support it, it uses whatever is the default | 20:15 |
| rdopiera | and we get tuncated usages | 20:15 |
| rdopiera | but there is nothing we can do about that | 20:15 |
| rdopiera | the new patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424585/ | 20:15 |
| rdopiera | I would love to hear any ideas or other feedback for this | 20:16 |
| rdopiera | or suggestions about how we could approach this better | 20:16 |
| rdopiera | one more note, since I can't catch the "wrong api version requested" error, because the novaclient catches it, I have to "look before jump" and check the available versions before doing the call | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | So a double novaclient check? | 20:17 |
| rdopiera | that creates a race condition if the nova version changes between the requests | 20:17 |
| rdopiera | but I hope that's not a very common occurence | 20:18 |
| rdopiera | and it would be fatal only if the version changes down | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | Like, init novaclient, use novaclient to check version, re-init client | 20:18 |
| rdopiera | yes, but that's memoized anyways | 20:18 |
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| robcresswell | I can't imagine many people are randomly downgrading clients during uptime | 20:18 |
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| robcresswell | Actually I take that back, people are crazy | 20:18 |
| rdopiera | yeah, I just want to point out that it is there :) | 20:19 |
| rdopiera | it could happen if you have nova behind a load balancer and only upgrade one | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | patch seems reasonable | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | the memoize only lasts the life of the request anyway | 20:20 |
| rdopiera | but I think a lot of our logic would fail in that scenario | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | I thought that the client memoize was meant to ignore some of the request parameters so it stayed cached | 20:22 |
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| robcresswell | Or something fancy | 20:22 |
| rdopiera | yes | 20:22 |
| rdopiera | it does | 20:22 |
| rdopiera | but version is also one of the parameter for the memoization | 20:22 |
| rdopiera | so the two versions get memorized separately | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | Ah | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | That was my next question :p | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | I'm glad you are two steps ahead | 20:23 |
| rdopiera | we will probably modify that code once the microversion patch lands | 20:23 |
| rdopiera | this is supposed to be a stopgap | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | Sure | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | Fine with me | 20:24 |
| rdopiera | oh, and I would be really grateful for a second +2 on that pagination patch, pretty please! | 20:25 |
| rdopiera | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410337 | 20:25 |
| david-lyle | honestly I think those two should be squashed | 20:26 |
| david-lyle | but as long as both merge, I'm ok with it | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | as is | 20:27 |
| rdopiera | they depend on each other | 20:27 |
| rdopiera | I mean, the second one on the first one | 20:27 |
| robcresswell | Anything else to discuss? | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | Oh PTL elections are this week if anyone else wants to run | 20:29 |
| betherly | this cycle has gone super fast | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | It was really short | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | I think Richard picked this one on purpose | 20:30 |
| betherly | :D | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | reminder for those headed to the PTG: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-ptg-pike | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | Ah, yeah, thanks david-lyle | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | Its just us two right? | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | up to 7 now | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | err 8 | 20:31 |
| betherly | thanks david-lyle! | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | including richard | 20:31 |
| betherly | and meeeee! | 20:31 |
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| betherly | woot | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | I believe he confirmed | 20:31 |
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| david-lyle | I was including you betherly :) | 20:31 |
| rdopiera | betherly: I just realized we never met | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | Huh someone has added the lbaas dashboard to our discussion :p | 20:32 |
| betherly | yay! just being hyper ignore me | 20:32 |
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| david-lyle | I added my favorite topic of removing code :) | 20:32 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: thank you for the +2s \o/ | 20:32 |
| david-lyle | rdopiera: thanks for working on it | 20:32 |
| betherly | rdopiera: so weird right! the joys of international working :) | 20:32 |
| rdopiera | robcresswell: should we discuss dropping nova support? ;) | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | where better to meet than Atlanta, USA | 20:33 |
| betherly | ha!!! | 20:33 |
| rdopiera | david-lyle: I'm not coming, sadly | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | doh | 20:33 |
| betherly | david-lyle: sadly I don't think rdopiera is going | 20:33 |
| * rdopiera plays a really small violin | 20:33 | |
| betherly | hahaha | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | :'( | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | I'm glad we're meeting in the USA, it makes a change to all the other OpenStack events | 20:34 |
| betherly | y'all make my wednesday evenings :'D | 20:34 |
| betherly | robcresswell: sarcasm detector alerted me | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | :) | 20:34 |
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| david-lyle | we recognize there are other parts of the world on occasion and then promptly forget | 20:34 |
| betherly | :D | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | :( | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: other than your panel split work | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | are there any other FFE's in the wind | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | Glorious work that it is | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | K2K | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | I consider that merged | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | That vagrant setup doesn't like me | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | git may disagree | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | Lol | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | I just merged the doa version bump | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | so that's in place | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | it's gating that is | 20:38 |
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| robcresswell | I'll try again in the morning | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | My eyes are stinging from too much computers | 20:39 |
| robcresswell | :D | 20:39 |
| rdopiera | computers are the worst | 20:39 |
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| betherly | robcresswell: go rest your eyes and play a computer game or watch tv or something :p | 20:41 |
| david-lyle | first end the meeting | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | Yeah good idea | 20:41 |
| robcresswell | Thanks everyone | 20:41 |
| rdopiera | thanks, bye! | 20:42 |
| betherly | Have a good one all | 20:42 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 20:42:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-01-25-20.10.html | 20:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-01-25-20.10.txt | 20:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-01-25-20.10.log.html | 20:42 |
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